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89131 6-AUG 19:36 Applications (6809)
RE: Word processor (Re: Msg 89129)
From: KENTMH To: REVWCP
Br. Jeremy-
Am I correct in understanding you are selling the CoNect Rs232 Pak? If so,
what are the terms? I need a First Class Pak!
Kent
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89141 7-AUG 01:58 Applications (6809)
RE: Word processor (Re: Msg 89131)
From: REVWCP To: KENTMH
No. I am not selling it myself. I was recommending it. Rick Ulland
(RICKULAND) on Delphi stills has them available. I would suggest that
you get in touch with him.
With all best wishes,
Brother Jeremy, CSJW
OS9 User's Group Treasurer
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89150 7-AUG 13:32 Applications (6809)
RE: Word processor (Re: Msg 89141)
From: KENTMH To: REVWCP
Br. Jeremy-
Thanks, I'll contact Rick.
Kent
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End of Thread.
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89132 6-AUG 21:41 General Information
RE: CD-i == Way Cool... (Re: Msg 89101)
From: PHXKEN To: MREGC
Renting of CD-i machines in Phoenix is from a store called "GAMERS"
My local one is at 35th Ave and W. Thunderbird Rd.
Glad to hear that Best Buy now has more CD-i titles to choose from.
You said that the prices were cheaper. I paid $17.95 at IU for Mozart.
That is about the price for audio CD. I will check out Best Buy to
see how their price compares. We have a store at Metro Center.
If you find the BlockBuster in Phoenix that rents CD-i titles, let me
know. I heard that in San Francisco, they are testing the CD-i but
I had not heard about a Phoenix test. My sources have been
a Video Magazine and Game Pro Magazine. The Video Mag I found in
the Phoenix libraries and We subscribe to Game Pro.
STAY TUNED GANG FOR NEW AND EXCITED RUMORS ABOUT OUR FAVORITE GAME
MACHINE>HA HA.
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89135 6-AUG 22:22 General Information
RE: CD-i == Way Cool... (Re: Msg 89132)
From: MREGC To: PHXKEN
Best Buy isn't much cheaper, but every little bit helps! :) Titles that
I bought for about $47 at Best Buy were selling in the mid 50s at IU.
..Eric...
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End of Thread.
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89133 6-AUG 21:56 General Information
multivue
From: PHXKEN To: ALAIN1155
CAREFUL!
I see that someone mentioned the autoex file in your CMDS directory.
It is the same as multistart with a new name but it does start
automagically.
I NEVER anymore use that file since I got locked out of my hard drives.
I now always use multistart to bring up MultiView. What is one more
key stroke as opposed to losing access to the hard drives.
I guess the method is fine for a floppy only system.
BTW, being a careful fellow, I do the same thing with Windows on my
PC and always boot up in DOS and then call up Windows.
Well, that's my 1 cent worth!
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89144 7-AUG 08:40 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89133)
From: ALAIN1155 To: PHXKEN
Thanks for the advice
Alain
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89156 7-AUG 17:27 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89144)
From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ALAIN1155
I would start up what you are obviously referring to as "multivue" (Multi-Vue
is the entire package of GUI support modules and utilities. The actual
graphics shell is GShell.) with the command:
gshell <>>>/w&
Of course, this requires that all of your window devices be patched to be
Type 1 or 2 Hardware Windows and that the mouse has been configured if
you are using a hires mouse.
------------------------------------
Zack C Sessions
If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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89159 7-AUG 20:51 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89133)
From: DBREEDING To: PHXKEN
> CAREFUL!
> I see that someone mentioned the autoex file in your CMDS directory.
> It is the same as multistart with a new name but it does start
> automagically.
> I NEVER anymore use that file since I got locked out of my hard drives.
> I now always use multistart to bring up MultiView.
Good point. I never used M-V myself, as it just didn't cut it, really. Like
you, On my System 5, I don't (yet) boot into GWindows, maybe later.
However, RE: getting locked out of the HD, you could always have an emergency
boot disk that would boot to the floppy. You could leave out the HD
descriptor in the boot, or rename it to something else (like "hf" or
something). Or, if you have your Sysgo set to boot to "/dd", then you could
have the emergency disk with "/dd" set to /d0.
-- David Breeding --
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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89163 7-AUG 23:07 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89159)
From: CHARLESAM To: DBREEDING
Funny you should mention that subject (HD Lockout). I changed my shell
module last month so I could better run Cocotop. Forgot to set the attr
to 'e pe '. Result= lockout. I just finished making the boot you describe.
I just had to add h0 and hdisk to a floppy boot and change cc3go from h0
to d0. Works fine. Now I'll make a few backups just in case. I'm forever
getting locked out due to forgetting to set the attributes after merging
new modules. I never learn. I was without my hard drive for a month due
to being to busy to straighten out the error. What was worst was my games
are on the HD, and I was too busy to dig out the originals to play from
floppy. No games for a month. Geez, it was bad, but the wife loved it.
She got to see my face for change. ;-) Of course, after a month of looking
at my sour puss, she's probably thrilled to see my back again. Now let me
finish up here and get on to Solitaire. I believe everyone must make this
mistake at least once.... with me its routine. later Charlie
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89171 8-AUG 07:04 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89156)
From: ALAIN1155 To: COLORSYSTEMS (NR)
What would be the purpose of doing gshell <>>>/w&
Alain
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89181 8-AUG 20:17 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89163)
From: DSRTFOX To: CHARLESAM
Charlie, did you get CoCotop running on the hard drive okay? Chris stated
that there seemed to be some kind of problem when it was auto started from
the hard drive. Wondering if you ran into that...
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89184 8-AUG 22:25 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89181)
From: CHARLESAM To: DSRTFOX
Oh! I thought it was my incompetance. No, I haven't had much success with it.
I was just thinking, maybe I need to run this from floppy. Glad to see I was
on the right track. I'll try it from floppy and see what happens. I'll get
back to you on it. Thanx Charlie
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End of Thread.
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89134 6-AUG 21:59 General Information
RE: Old Monk, New Toy (Re: Msg 89120)
From: PHXKEN To: REVWCP
Isn't that the same company name as on some modems today? Prac Perf. (sp)
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89136 7-AUG 00:59 General Information
RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 88762)
From: NEALSTEWARD To: TEDJAEGER
I am using a MultiPak Interface with the SCII and KenTon SCSI pak, not
a Y-cable (i know they aren't compatible). I did talk with Alan Sheltra,
and he mentioned that many people have had problems with the "lands" on
the card edge of the MPI. I re-tinned mine, and I am using it now. A
few days or weeks of use will tell me if that solved the problem.
Thanks for the input anyway...
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89137 7-AUG 01:02 General Information
RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 88766)
From: NEALSTEWARD To: COCOKIWI
Yes the RGB ROM is in a socket, so is the 6309, but all works fine when
I install the boot ROM into the KenTon SCSI pak and plug it directly into
the coco. I may have found the source of the problem, I retinned the
"lands" on the card edge of the MPI and the system is working tonight.
I will know after using the system for awhile if that was the problem.
Thanks for your help anyway. Aaaaaaaaaaaah, nice to have me ol' coco
working again!
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89142 7-AUG 04:28 General Information
RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 89137)
From: COCOKIWI To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
<ack!!!>not a good thing to do!It will work for a while..The big problem is
those old "Tandy gold"contacts........The best way to fix is the change the
way the thing plugs in! By changing the CoCo-3 socket to a 40 pin right angle
"pin" connector...soldering another "straight"pin connector to the MPI edge
connector ............ and a "SHORT" cable with TWO sockets! HEY presto no more
problems!.......Dennis
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89177 8-AUG 20:07 General Information
RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 89137)
From: DSRTFOX To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
Neal, when you use the KT with your disk controller, is the ROM left
in the disk controller as well as in the KT? I know you set the MPI to the
slot that the bootrom is in...
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End of Thread.
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89138 7-AUG 01:30 Telecom (6809)
RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 88916)
From: NEALSTEWARD To: DWHILL
I'm trying out OSTerm 2.08 right now. If the author is still available,
I'll be sending a shareware donation soon. This thing is fantastic!
The VT100 is operating here and on our local "Freenet" system. I'm
not familiar enought with VT100 to tell you if it supports the full
protocol, but it seems fine for what I need.
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89162 7-AUG 21:34 Telecom (6809)
RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 89138)
From: JEJONES To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
> I'm trying out OSTerm 2.08 right now. If the author is still available,
> I'll be sending a shareware donation soon.
Vaughn Cato is still out there, though I don't know what his current address
is. Perhaps one of the folks who are currently maintaining the (commercial)
OS-9/68000 version could pass the info along.
> This thing is fantastic!
When the CoCo was my main home machine, it was my terminal program of choice.
Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside
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89164 7-AUG 23:52 Telecom (6809)
RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 89138)
From: DWHILL To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
VT100 seems to be working reasonably well; I haven't quite gotten the hang
of doing a zmodem transfer with it, but otherwise it's allowing me to work
on this Internet system with full-page editors and readers like pine and
trn.
I used Osterm a long time ago, but found that Supercomm offered more of the
features I wanted in a terminal; well, at least until I finally had to had
VT100 emulation capability.
Vaughn Cato should still be around--he's one smart programmer!
--Damon
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89192 9-AUG 00:12 Telecom (6809)
RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 89138)
From: KSCALES To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
Hi, Neal -
> I'm trying out OSTerm 2.08 right now. If the author is still available,
> I'll be sending a shareware donation soon. This thing is fantastic!
Vaughn is still available, and can be reached at the same address that is
given in the documentation (in Marietta, GA). (Unless it's changed very
recently! That's where Northern Xposure has been sending his royalties
for OSTerm 68K...)
Cheers... / Ken
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
-- Composed with KVed/Ved and uploaded with InfoXpress --
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End of Thread.
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89139 7-AUG 01:44 General Information
RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89096)
From: NEALSTEWARD To: ALAIN1155
Sidewise has been released as Shareware. Not sure if I saw it here or
on Compuserve. If not, ECCCC BBS has it (716)649-1368 in their OS-9
section. I don't know about the accounting package you mentioned, but
Chris Ddekker has Accounting Level 2 available, although I still haven't
been able to install it on my hard drive.
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89145 7-AUG 08:41 General Information
RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89139)
From: ALAIN1155 To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
Thanks , can you tell me what level 2 accounting does, might be interested.
Also give an address or phone number so i can order a copy
Alain
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89178 8-AUG 20:08 General Information
RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89145)
From: DSRTFOX To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)
Neal, would you be willing to write a review of Accounting Level II for
me? Could use it!!
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End of Thread.
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89140 7-AUG 01:47 General Information
RE: IRQ Mod (Re: Msg 89124)
From: NEALSTEWARD To: MMCCLELLAND
You can install a 3PST toggle switch to disconnect the IRQ hack when
using it under RSDOS with ROMpaks.
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89143 7-AUG 08:39 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89102)
From: ALAIN1155 To: PHILSCHERER
Yes i have along with multistart
Alain
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89155 7-AUG 17:27 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89143)
From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ALAIN1155
> Yes i have along with multistart
I think if you run an ident on multistart and the autoex from the MultiVue
disk, you'll find that they are the same program.
------------------------------------
Zack C Sessions
If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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89170 8-AUG 07:03 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89155)
From: ALAIN1155 To: COLORSYSTEMS (NR)
yep that i found out already. Would it be possible then to patch multistart to
do a dir /dd automatically on startup?
Alain
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89173 8-AUG 18:09 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89143)
From: PHILSCHERER To: ALAIN1155
Be sure the attr of autoex shows an 'e'--it should fire up MV. You do have
WindInt instead of vdgint in your bootlist?????? <Phil>
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89243 12-AUG 05:24 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89173)
From: ALAIN1155 To: PHILSCHERER
yep got that. still i put dir /dd at the last line of my startup file but when
the multi-vue window appeared, no directory.
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89247 12-AUG 20:05 General Information
RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89243)
From: PHILSCHERER To: ALAIN1155 (NR)
Did the drive symbols appear on the left side of the MV screen? Were
there scroll bars on the side of it? <Phil>
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End of Thread.
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89146 7-AUG 08:48 General Information
multi time sharing
From: ALAIN1155 To: ALL
I would like to know how i can hook up 2 or more coco together to have tomg on
OS-9.
Will the other machine be able to access the drive and printer as well.
Alain
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89147 7-AUG 08:50 General Information
using RMA
From: ALAIN1155 To: ALL
Could someone explain how to use RMA to assemble os-9 machine language program.
i have a couple of assembly source that i tried to assemble with RMA but
everytime it returne bad mnemonic on all codes or bad label
Alain
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89160 7-AUG 20:51 General Information
RE: using RMA (Re: Msg 89147)
From: DBREEDING To: ALAIN1155
> Could someone explain how to use RMA to assemble os-9 machine language
> i have a couple of assembly source that i tried to assemble with RMA but
> everytime it returne bad mnemonic on all codes or bad label
Are you using source written for the "ASM" assembler? This would have
the " mod" directive toward the begin of the program. If so, this is the
problem. There is a little difference in the directives. "RMA" needs the
"psect" directive, and the "endsect" (or "ends") at the end. Check your
docs for details.
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
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89172 8-AUG 07:05 General Information
RE: using RMA (Re: Msg 89160)
From: ALAIN1155 To: DBREEDING
I'll do that but it has done the same when i tried typing the example in the
docs
alain
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89264 13-AUG 15:09 General Information
RE: using RMA (Re: Msg 89172)
From: DBREEDING To: ALAIN1155 (NR)
> I'll do that but it has done the same when i tried typing the example in
> the docs
One other thing... are you putting in the spaces at the correct place?
You need a space before the opcode (no space before a label definition).
Oh yes, you need a space before the "psect", and the psect MUST come before
any vsects.
If you have typed in the example listing correctly, it should work..
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
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End of Thread.
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89148 7-AUG 08:53 General Information
desktop
From: ALAIN1155 To: ALL
Does anyone knows a good desktop program beside home publisher for the OS-9.
Also does anyone has a copy of the business software that was sold by compuware
in 1985-86. The were a package containing payroll, ledger, acc. recevable, acc
payable. Anyone will
in to sell it or give me one copy would be welcome.
Alain
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89179 8-AUG 20:12 General Information
RE: desktop (Re: Msg 89148)
From: DSRTFOX To: ALAIN1155
Alain, Chris Dekker's Accounting Level II has what you are looking for. It
works by opening three device windows on screen at once, allowing you to
see all transactions at the same time. You'll need 512K and an RGB monitor
to run it. His number is 506-276-4841 (RR#4 Centreville, NB E0J 1H0)
Price is $34.95
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89244 12-AUG 05:25 General Information
RE: desktop (Re: Msg 89179)
From: ALAIN1155 To: DSRTFOX (NR)
Thnaks very much will call him
Alain
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End of Thread.
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89149 7-AUG 11:16 OSK Applications
MM/1 5 1/4 drive
From: JIMGIFF To: ALL
Can anyone tell me how to get this TEAC FD-55 1.2MB/360Kb drive to work on my
MM/1. I want to retrieve data from my CoCO disks as well as some PC disks.
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89151 7-AUG 16:20 General Information
RE: Press Release (Re: Msg 89007)
From: 01GEN40 To: JOELHEGBERG
Hi Joel,
Thanx for the info. I shall order my copy at the earliest possible time.
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
-= 01GEN40 =-
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89152 7-AUG 16:27 General Information
RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89010)
From: 01GEN40 To: JEVESTAL
Hi Jim,
Very interesting notion: a 14.4 Fax/Modem on the CoCo. Too bad, I think
the CoCo is limited to 9600 baud. I have one installed in a 386 messy-dog
machine at work and I am amazed at the speed. What takes me 10 minutes on
my CoCo at 2400 baud is like 30 seconds at work. Even still, I will not
give up my CoCos either. Even if I do end up with a 486DX2-66 messy-dog
running OS-9000 like I want. See ya.
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
-= 01GEN40 =-
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89169 8-AUG 04:30 General Information
RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89152)
From: JEVESTAL To: 01GEN40
> Hi Jim,
> Very interesting notion: a 14.4 Fax/Modem on the CoCo. Too bad, I
> think the CoCo is limited to 9600 baud. I have one installed in a 386
> messy-dog machine at work and I am amazed at the speed. What takes me 10
> minutes on my CoCo at 2400 baud is like 30 seconds at work. Even still, I
> will not give up my CoCos either. Even if I do end up with a 486DX2-66
> messy-dog running OS-9000 like I want. See ya.
Actually OS-9 term programs with a standard 6551A UART can only
handle throughput of about 4800 bps reliably on my unmodified 6809 CoCo
systems.
Under Disk Basic, U-term can connect at 14.4 without character loss and
download with a throughput of about 1000 cps.
Jim
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89187 8-AUG 22:29 General Information
RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89169)
From: 01GEN40 To: JEVESTAL (NR)
Hi Jim,
I do not like basic, nuf said! See ya.
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
-= 01GEN40 =-
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89228 11-AUG 03:51 General Information
RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89152)
From: COCOKIWI To: 01GEN40 (NR)
I,d love os9000......I have a 486DX-33...8 meg.......and the wife now has
a 486SX2-50......<grin>.......
Dennis
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89233 11-AUG 18:21 General Information
RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89152)
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: 01GEN40 (NR)
Under RSDOS using ultimaterm, I have been able to open up my sportster modem
to the full 14400 baud rate (port speed 19200 baud) with no problem. under
os9 9600 seems to be the limit. I am very close to being able to do 19200
under os9. maybe a new release of nitros-9 will give the tweek of speed i
need to get it. (adjusting the timeslicing would probably do the trick)
<Mike>
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End of Thread.
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89153 7-AUG 16:50 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89042)
From: 01GEN40 To: ISC
Bill,
It is on pages 6-70,71 the the 3" OS-9 manual as well. Mine anyway...
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
-= 01GEN40 =-
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89154 7-AUG 16:53 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89153)
From: ISC To: 01GEN40
Pages 6-70, 71 in my OS-9 manual are the OS9Gen command.
Bill
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89157 7-AUG 20:06 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89086)
From: DBREEDING To: DSRTFOX
> Bill, I did as you said, only exited with a plain BREAK (you didn't
> mention how to get OUT of it!!!!). And I forgot to run COBBLER before I
> had to quit and come to work too. Will try it all again tomorrow.
Frank,
I assume you're MODPATCH'ing from the keyboard? You can also modpatch from
a file. I prefer this method over keyboard, since I'm prone to hit the wrong
key then <ENTER> before I catch it <G>.
If you do this, you can either :
modpatch filename patchfile
or
modpatch filename < patchfile
Either way works. Some hints:
1. Don't leave an empty line in the file (you know, simply CR). Modpatch
will abort.
2. I think you can use the command "q" to quit, not sure, but otherwise,
the end of file will end it (I think).
Modpatch will work on any type module in memory.
-- David Breeding --
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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89175 8-AUG 19:56 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89103)
From: DSRTFOX To: ISC
You did mention it earlier Bill, just left out the "exit with CTRL/BREAK",
or I didn't write it down for some reason. Anyway, I seem to have it now,
thanks!
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89180 8-AUG 20:13 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89154)
From: DSRTFOX To: ISC
The earliest OS-9 manual set had a few things missing!!! One was any mention
at all of modpatch!! Mine is an early version...
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89185 8-AUG 22:26 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89154)
From: 01GEN40 To: ISC
Hi Bill,
You are using OS-9 Level 2 right? I do seem to think you stated
that in one of your messages. I just opened my manual and found
that Modpatch is on 4 pages not 2. Someone else left a list of
the options and commands associated with Modpatch, so I shall not persue
this any longer. One more thought though, the last copyright date
in mine is 1986, what is yours? I do have another copy of OS-9
Level 2 in the shrinkwrap that I might be willing to part with if
you would like to be "more current". It cost me some $$$ though, so
would would not be able to just "give" it away. :-) This copy does
have a binder with it too. Let me know. See ya.
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
-= 01GEN40 =-
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89186 8-AUG 22:27 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89180)
From: ISC To: DSRTFOX
Frank,
My OS-9 manual must be an early one too, then. I bought it in Chicago
while I was there on business. The CoCo announcement about Rat Shack's
discontinued support had occurred about a week before. A business trip
was scheduled for many parts of the country at that time, and I would
cruise local Rat Shacks for CoCo stuff.
I learned how to use Modpatch from the people here!
Bill
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89188 8-AUG 22:30 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89185)
From: ISC To: 01GEN40
How much do you want for your copy of the late OS-9? I'm interested.
Bill
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89190 8-AUG 22:42 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89188)
From: 01GEN40 To: ISC
Hows $30.00 sound, I pay shipping? See ya.
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
-= 01GEN40 =-
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89198 9-AUG 18:15 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89190)
From: ISC To: 01GEN40 (NR)
Let me search my files - upon further rummaging, I have found an updated
OS-9 manual since I talked here to you. If I find the diskettes, I may
not be in need of the system, however, thanks for being there.
I'll get back to you.
Bill
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89214 10-AUG 21:33 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89198)
From: DSRTFOX To: ISC
There are only a couple extra pages in the "updated" manual. I'll try to
get a list of waht was added.
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89224 11-AUG 00:09 System Modules (6809)
RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89214)
From: ISC To: DSRTFOX (NR)
Great. Thanks, Frank.
Bill
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End of Thread.
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89158 7-AUG 20:08 Programmers Den
RE: program update (Re: Msg 89121)
From: DBREEDING To: CPERRAULT
> Now my next problem was, it would
> return all those files, but keep returning them over in over again. What I
> was doing was, I had a for/next loop....
> simple solution<G>.
Yeah, things like that are sometimes real stumpers, and makes you want to slap
yourself on the head when you see it. I've done this many times. Most times
I'll edit a while, list the prog (paper companies just LOVE me <G>), then
edit some more... list...
I had my first coco some time before I got a printer. Talk about having a
hard time debugging.... You can look all day at a screen and often never
find the problem... look at a printout and that semicolon that doesn't
belong just jumps out at ya..
The good news is, I'm just about done.
Great! Will be looking for it.
BTW.. If you're doing a lot of Basic programming, do you have "gfx3"?
It's something like "gfx2" I wrote some years back. Does a lot of the
get/setstatt calls. I think it makes programming somewhat easier. Dunno
if it's still up or not.. someone else uploaded it, as I was not online
at that time.
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89200 9-AUG 20:31 Programmers Den
RE: program update (Re: Msg 89158)
From: CPERRAULT To: DBREEDING
>>You can look all day at a screen and often never find the
problem...<<
I'm the same way. Without a printer I don't even bother trying to
code, as the screen just seems to complicate it for some reason. I
can't understand what it is, as you would thing one display is similar
to another, but yet here I am printing out at least 20 sheets a day<G>
>>If you're doing a lot of Basic programming, do you have
"gfx3"?<<
Yes, I have it, but haven't yet played around with it. I do plan
on getting familiar with it after my next couple programming projects
are finished. It looks like a very usefull package!
Btw, yes it is on Delphi. This is where I got it :-)
>Chris<
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89269 13-AUG 15:12 Programmers Den
RE: program update (Re: Msg 89200)
From: DBREEDING To: CPERRAULT (NR)
> >>If you're doing a lot of Basic programming, do you have
> "gfx3"?<<
>
> Yes, I have it, but haven't yet played around with it. I do plan
> on getting familiar with it after my next couple programming projects
> are finished. It looks like a very usefull package!
> Btw, yes it is on Delphi. This is where I got it :-)
I'm assuming it's the same one I did. Actually, as I stated in the docs,
I got the idea from a Basic version by Dale Puckett, so I can't claim
credit for originating the idea. I did it in assembly, gave the option
of whether to use the path # or not, and tried to make it more like "gfx2"
in syntax to avoid confusion. I used the package some bit when I fooled
with Basic09. It seemed to simplify doing the calls.
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89161 7-AUG 21:33 General Information
RE: Computer Scienc (Re: Msg 88971)
From: JEJONES To: ILLUSIONIST
> I know alot of OS-9 users are Computer Science students, so, I figure I
> will post this here...I have 6 com. sci. related books that I would
> like to get rid of. (I just dont have the room for all my books) anyway
> they are:
>
> Algorithms by Robert Sedgewick
> Algorithms in C ....
> Algorithms in Modula-3
>
> Fundamental Algorithms by Don Knuth
> Seminumerical Algorithms ....
> Searching and Sorting .....
I hasten to add that
1. The Knuth books are classics in their field (and the algorithms are
given in a fairly rigidly structured flowchart plus English form as
well as in MIX assembler (a mythical machine loosely inspired by
architectures current when Knuth first wrote the books), so they're
quite useful. They're encyclopedic up to the time of writing.
2. Sedgewick, if I remember correctly, studied under Knuth, and his books
are, while not as monumental, more modern, and well worth your while.
Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside
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89165 8-AUG 01:53 General Information
RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89034)
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: MROWEN01
Actually,Kermit should work even over telnet or rlogin connections.
Haven't tried it, but I've heard about people using it over telnet before,
though there could be some slight trick.
Especially with windowing Kermit, it should even be quite fast,
although I don't recall if delphi supports windowing Kermit or not.
- Tim
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89166 8-AUG 04:27 General Information
RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89046)
From: JEVESTAL To: MROWEN01
> Binary transfers can cause all kinds of headaches for communications
> equipment. The Internet is a huge collection of heterogeneous stuff!
> However, TEXT usually gets handled fine. UUENCODE is a utility that
> converts a binary file into a format that can be transfered like text.
> When you receive a file that has been uuencoded you can undo the
> conversion with the uudecode utility. These were originally designed to
> allow file transfers over UUCP and Unix mail. Once you uuencode a file you
> simply mail it to the destination.
> (limit is 64k per file for mail though). There are uuencode/decode
> utilities for OS-9 on the database here (i think). This is how I transfer
> stuff from my unix machine sometimes. FTP is superior of course, but
> Delphi doesn't have an FTP server. I don't know if you can uuencode on
> Delphi or not. This may not help you with your problem, but hopefully it
> answers some of your questions about uuencode.
Delphi doesn't allow you to uuencode online, but you can uuencode a file
on your home system and upload it to your workspace on Delphi and send
it via mail or ftp to another computer on the internet. The other
person would download it to their home computer and then uudecode it.
Usually there is no size limit for internet mail. I have sent uuecoded
files that were up to 900K+.
Jim
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89203 9-AUG 22:03 General Information
RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89165)
From: SAUSAGESAM To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
I tried regular Kermit on a friends IBM machine when I was logged in at 14.4k
baud through the internet (telnet).. I was only getting 100 CPS!! Does delphi
have windowing kermit?
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89213 10-AUG 20:25 General Information
RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89203)
From: JEJONES To: SAUSAGESAM
> I tried regular Kermit on a friends IBM machine when I was logged in at
> 14.4k baud through the internet (telnet).. I was only getting 100 CPS!!
> Does delphi have windowing kermit?
Nope, and despite Kermit having had sliding windows for around eight years,
Delphi hasn't upgraded their Kermit, nor do they apparently have any plans
to do so--though IMHO anyone with an opinion on the matter should send email
to SERVICE and express his or her opinion.
Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside
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89167 8-AUG 04:28 General Information
RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 <gri (Re: Msg 89126)
From: JEVESTAL To: WMBRADY
> 'lo folks, just dropped by to see if OS9 was still active.
>
> I see Greg is here & Marty. Reminders of old times way back when.
Hi Bill, it's been a long time. I was on GEnie back where you
were in charge of the Tandy CoCo/OS-9 sigs.
Jim Vestal
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89208 10-AUG 03:24 General Information
RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 <gri (Re: Msg 89128)
From: WMBRADY To: PHILSCHERER
I don't believe I have an OS-9 compatible machine these days.
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89212 10-AUG 18:17 General Information
RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 <gri (Re: Msg 89208)
From: PHILSCHERER To: WMBRADY
Well Bill, perhaps you might think about OS9000. It's wide open for development
just like the Coco in the old days. It could sure use folks like you for
a Wizpro OS9000 and lots of other stuff. It would be neat having you back!
Really! <Phil>
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89242 12-AUG 05:10 General Information
RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 <gri (Re: Msg 89212)
From: WMBRADY To: PHILSCHERER
What kind of hardware runs OS9000 these days?
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89246 12-AUG 20:02 General Information
RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 <gri (Re: Msg 89242)
From: PHILSCHERER To: WMBRADY (NR)
Well Bill, I know it's ported to 80386 & 80486 and it is ported to
some of the Motorola chips I think. I'm pretty sure that Microware
announced that it is being ported to the new Powerpc chips from
Motorola also. They wrote it in C so that it could be set up anywhere
easily. I was also talking to someone (reliable source <G>) who says
that over the long term, it'll be the future of OS9. <Phil>
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89259 13-AUG 06:36 General Information
RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 <gri (Re: Msg 89246)
From: COCOKIWI To: PHILSCHERER
lets hope that LOWERING the $$$$$......Price...would be the future also!
<grin>....Dennis
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89260 13-AUG 08:42 General Information
RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 <gri (Re: Msg 89259)
From: PHILSCHERER To: COCOKIWI (NR)
Hi Dennis--I'm sure that as emphasis is placed on it somewhere down the road,
Microware will make adjustments! <Phil>
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End of Thread.
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89168 8-AUG 04:29 General Information
RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89115)
From: JEVESTAL To: CPERRAULT
> >>I would be interested, but Sunday night is not my best
> night. How about a Monday or Wednesday night conf?<<
>
> I'm willing to switch to either Monday at 10:00 or Wednseday
> at 9:00 if you all are. The only catch for me is, depending on
> what happens at work in the next two or three months, I might have
> to switch from Monday to Tuesday.
> Everyone, let me know what the best times are for you so I
> can figure out a good time. I'm trying to make it so I'm not up too
> late on work nights.
Anytime is fin with me, remember tht I'm on the Left Coast and can't
call Delphi until 6pm, the later is usually the better, probably
Monday or Wednesday nights.
Jim
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89218 10-AUG 22:18 General Information
RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89168)
From: CPERRAULT To: JEVESTAL (NR)
>>Anytime is fine with me, remember that I'm on the Left Coast
and can't call Delphi until 6pm, the later is usually the better,
probably Monday or Wednesday nights.<<
Ok, how's about Monday at 10:00 pm? The time difference between
the coasts is a big pain, one of the reasons I liked Sunday. You don't
have to worry about what time you come on during the weekends. I guess
we could start out at the 10:00 pm slot, and if that doesn't work out,
we can start a half hour or hour later and see if that makes a
difference.
So far here's what I have planned for those interested. It will
be one conference, similar to Boisy's but with more of slant towards
OS-9 level II and general Coco stuff. The topics will vary widely. I'd
like to have some devoted to programming related stuff, as well as
interviews/discussions with Vendors and other influencial people in
the community regarding their products and services. It would also be
nice to have some nights devoted to software programs new and old,
just to cover them since there is a lot of Coco software out there
that is almost unheard of for some reason. Oh yeah, OS-9 in General
will also be covered in many ways :-)
Hopefully we'll start getting a big turnout for these after they
start, and maybe then we'll be able to start spinoff conferences
dedicated to topics that are overly popular.
See Ya
>Chris<
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89230 11-AUG 11:35 General Information
RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89218)
From: MROWEN01 To: CPERRAULT
A Coco Level II conference sounds great! Maybe you can discuss some
basics of OS-9 users like me who have not traditionaly understood the details
of system modules and how they relate. I'm kind of late in the game when it
comes to OS-9. I would like to eventually write some programs but It's very
difficult to get any real help with the basics. Most good books on the subject
are out of print. I would like at least one conference time to discuss the ins
and outs of building new boot disks. I pull my hair out because I have no idea
when I might be creating the BLOB problem or going over the memory limit for
the boot file. BOOT FAILED doesn't give much detail! I also can't get anyone
to explain the mfree command in detail. The manual is to vaugue. I don't know
how many users are in this catagory. This conference is something I need to
hear. I've sat in on others in the past, but they're usually over my head. I
won't ever be able to contribute to the OS-9 community if I can't get the
basics down. Understanding Level II will allow me to prepare for the OSK
environment that someday I'll enter. Mondays work fine for me BTW. I'll
be watching for your first conference. Thanks
Mike Rowen
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89251 12-AUG 21:44 General Information
RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89230)
From: CPERRAULT To: MROWEN01
>>Maybe you can discuss some basics of OS-9 users like me who
have not traditionaly understood the details of system modules and how
they relate.<<
Well, keep in mind I'm not a real guru myself, and my knowledge
is limited compared to many others, but I am hoping some of those in
the know will also be at the conferences, and perhaps schedual some
people to appear on nights to talk about certain topics<ala OS-9
Live!>. I should be able to be of help with your boot problems as well
as any beginner/startup information, as I've been through that
battlefield before, and on the good side have gained some knowledge
from it. The opening conference is not going to be limited to any one
topic, and will basically be a laid back/informal conference to get
started, so bring your questions about the boot problems and whatever
else. I'll see if I can help you out with that. Also, I remember you
posting something about it recently when I really didn't get a chance
to get back to it. Can you point me to the message number so I can
reread it? I can't remember exactly what the problem was.
Btw, I STRONGLY encourage anyone with boot problems, or questions
about their boot files to have the utility 'Smap' handy. It is in the
utility database here as part of a 4 or 5 utility package, of which I
forget the name of the whole package, but if you sea for it under the
keywords of either Smap or Kdarling, it should lead you to it. You
should have these programs handy in your cmds directory no matter
what, but Smap is especially usefull in figuring out if your OS9Boot
file is taking up to much system memory, which is a common cause of
post boot trouble.
Btw, I'll officially post the first conference and all details to
the conferences real soon<don't want to make anything definate yet,
until I am clear of all those little details myself>.
Btw, if there are any vendors who are interested in schedualing a
conference to announce any new products or discuss any existing
products, leave me some email so I can schedual ya'. The same goes for
User group representatives, publishers, or anyone else with a project
they want to discuss. As I said, to start, this conference will cover
a pretty broad area, and we can just let things evolve from there.
>Chris<
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89271 13-AUG 23:30 General Information
RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89251)
From: MROWEN01 To: CPERRAULT (NR)
I sat in on the OS-9 live conf about data modules. Some info on how
to do these under level II will be posted soon. We should encourage, and
I do HERE encourage, anyone interested in OS-9 to sit in on the conferences
whether they are OSK or Level II. Though the form may be different the
function is the same. I don't think this info would have been posted if I
hadn't represented the Level II users in the OS-9 Live conf. The OSK users
usually have a level II back ground and are very helpful as well. I am
certainly hungry for some good OS-9 knowledge. Between these two confs I
hope to gain some useful knowledge. I'm anxious for your conf to begin. I
appreciate you taking the time to organize this for all level II users.
-End of Soapbox ;)
Mike
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End of Thread.
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89174 8-AUG 19:48 OSK Applications
RE: many (Re: Msg 89108)
From: NIMITZ To: HAWKSOFT
I beleive that Ray is prepared to handle both formats. Ray will also, when
we get schematics available, handle hardware repairs on MM/1's in a manner
similar to Mark Griffiths company. Ray can be reached at Patterson
Electronics, PO Box 386, Mountain View, AR 72560.
Phone is (501) 746-4747. He was going up to Mark's this weekend to see how
much of Marks stock he could buy, but his car repairs did not get completed!
David
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89176 8-AUG 20:00 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89104)
From: DSRTFOX To: ISC
I use the Disto SCII with 4-n-1 with Ultimaterm but have no problems with
it. When I d/l to disk, it usually WON'T go to disk the first time,
but does every other. Strange bug, but did it with my HDS controller
also. Like you, I like the clock, especially with EADOS#!!!
(# should be 3!)
I have a 486/50 at home, 486SX/25 at work. You should have looked at the
Apple PowerMacs! But you probably got a better deal on the Intel box.
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89183 8-AUG 22:22 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89176)
From: ISC To: DSRTFOX
Frank,
I haven't ruled out a PowerMac. I have a 30-day money back guarantee
on the Intel box, and, if there are any quirks at all, back it goes.
Bill
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89193 9-AUG 01:42 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89183)
From: JOELHEGBERG To: ISC
Bill,
> I haven't ruled out a PowerMac. I have a 30-day money back guarantee
> on the Intel box, and, if there are any quirks at all, back it goes.
Take it back... I won't allow an Intel chip in my house. The PowerMacs
are quite nice. (I have an '040 Mac, myself.)
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= (JHegberg@aol.com) Sub-Etha Software Programmer =
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89199 9-AUG 18:18 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89193)
From: ISC To: JOELHEGBERG
Joel,
The Intel box companies are worried a lot about the PowerMac, and, thus,
they are cutting prices to the bone. I got a lot of system for a little
money, including tape backup and sound!
Bill
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89202 9-AUG 21:28 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89199)
From: JOELHEGBERG To: ISC
Bill,
> The Intel box companies are worried a lot about the PowerMac, and, thus,
> they are cutting prices to the bone. I got a lot of system for a little
> money, including tape backup and sound!
That is a nice side-advantage! :)
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= (JHegberg@aol.com) Sub-Etha Software Programmer =
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89211 10-AUG 10:51 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89130)
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DBREEDING
yeah, i see the same problem, even the high-end msdos machines just don't cut
it for multitasking. maybe once osk has enough software ill switch over, but
for now sticking wihth the coco3 is my best bet
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89266 13-AUG 15:11 General Information
RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89211)
From: DBREEDING To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
> maybe once osk has enough software ill switch
> over, but for now sticking wihth the coco3 is my best bet
There's getting to be some pretty good software out for OSK now. I've not
purchased a lot yet, have "ix" on order, will be getting text software soon,
not ordered yet, probably go with "ved".
I download "QWK" packets from my local BBS... I have one for the CoCo -
"scribe". Also got The "GNU" package ("ATP") here for my OSK machine. The
OSK program has more features (a couple missing, though); I use the OSK
system here due to speed in going through the messages.
At this time, I depend more on my CoCo for most telecom purposes (especially
till "ix" comes in). At this time, I don't have a really superb general-
purpose telecom program for my System 5. I understand one is due to come out
shortly, and I understand that OSTerm has been ported to the MM/1.
There's still plenty of life left in the CoCo, and I hope to keep mine set up
for some time.
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89182 8-AUG 22:04 General Information
replies
From: CPERRAULT To: ALL
This is just a note to let everyone know, that my replies my take a little
longer. I'm having trouble with vprint formatting my offline
replies, and if I don't figure it out soon, I'll leave Bob some email about
it.
See Yya
>Chris<
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89189 8-AUG 22:30 General Information
Glenside C.C.
From: CHARLESAM To: ALL
Last May I joined the Glenside Coco club while at the Fest. Since then I haven't
received any mailings at all. If anyone here is a member of that club, could
you check to see that they have my address. As follows;
Charles Marlow
326 N. Boston Ave,
N. Massapequa, N.Y.
11758
I appreciate any help I get in straightening out this matter. Thanx Charlie
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89191 8-AUG 23:42 General Information
RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89189)
From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM
You message has been forwarded to Glensides president, Brian Schubring (THESCHU)
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89204 9-AUG 22:03 General Information
RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89191)
From: CHARLESAM To: MITHELEN
Thanx Paul, probably just a mislayed address. Charlie
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89261 13-AUG 13:21 General Information
RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89204)
From: PHXKEN To: CHARLESAM (NR)
They must have mis-layed my address too and I have been a member since
1991 Atlanta Fest. Actually, I am assumming that someone is ill and
that a newsletter will be out soon.
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89263 13-AUG 14:46 General Information
RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89261)
From: MITHELEN To: PHXKEN (NR)
From what I took in the last meeting (last Thurs) The Editor is a bit behind
schedual, and there has been no issue released since the one that was available
at the Fest... Hopefully the delay will be corrected soon...
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End of Thread.
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89194 9-AUG 01:55 Applications (6809)
Targa converter
From: MARKCARLSON To: ALL
Does anyone know of a utility to convert targa (.tga) files to .gif or
.vef that runs under os-9 or osk. - MARK -
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89196 9-AUG 08:40 General Information
error 202
From: DONALDS To: ALL
I have run into a problem of getting error 202 while using dynacalc.
I use a disto super controller II, 4n1, 2meg, cc3/6309 and powerboost.
ysten
will either lockup or it will crash or return ' polling table full' I
ts being lost but I am not sure.
Can anyone help with a cure?
Don
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89197 9-AUG 18:07 General Information
RE: error 202 (Re: Msg 89196)
From: BOISY To: DONALDS (NR)
You need to INIZ your floppy device (i.e. iniz /d0). You should probably
put this in your startup file. Once this is done, you won't see any more
problems
with error 202's etc.
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89265 13-AUG 15:09 General Information
RE: error 202 (Re: Msg 89196)
From: DBREEDING To: DONALDS (NR)
> I have run into a problem of getting error 202 while using dynacalc.
> I use a disto super controller II, 4n1, 2meg, cc3/6309 and powerboost.
> ysten will either lockup or it will crash or return ' polling table full'
> Its being lost but I am not sure.
> Can anyone help with a cure?
BOISY gave you a solution.. There's also a patch for the Disto CC3Disk..
Should be available here. The original didn't remove the Interrupt from the
polling table during a TERMination, thus soon filling up the Polling table.
Either fix should work.
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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End of Thread.
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89201 9-AUG 20:34 General Information
Vprint working(My fault...Again)
From: CPERRAULT To: ALL
Ok, you will all be blessed with my regular replies as usual. I got Vprint
working again. The big bug???... I was using the wrong Init file<G>. For
you Vprint users/fans like myself, I was using the init file for outputting
to the graphics screen(vpt..scr)
when I should have been using vpt..txt(which is the counterpart, for the
text screen display). It gave me some rather bizaar output in my file. You
need to see it to really appreciate it<G>.
>Chris<
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89205 9-AUG 22:30 General Information
Atlanta Fest
From: CHARLESAM To: ALL
Can anyone tell me who I can contact for the upcoming Atlanta Fest? And
what are the dates? Thanx Charlie
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89207 9-AUG 23:37 General Information
RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89205)
From: REVKAK To: CHARLESAM
According to a flyer I got at Chicago, Atlanta will be October 1 & 2.
The only number given is the Atlanta Computer Society BBS:
404/636-2991.
Are you planning to go. I am seriously considering going. Let me know
and maybe we can get a convoy of people going.
Best wishes,
Keith
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89221 10-AUG 23:42 General Information
RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89207)
From: CHARLESAM To: REVKAK
Sounds like a good idea Keith. I'm going on vacation that month but not till
the 2nd week. That leaves that weekend open. Lets follow through on this.
ATTENTION, any New York Metropolitan Area residents who wish to get together
for the trip to the Atlanta Coco Fest, please contact Charlesam or Revkak
via E-mail. Thanx Charlie. I quess that should do it. I'm going to start
saving up now. I'll be in touch, and you can call me anytime after 10pm.
Later C.M.
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89248 12-AUG 20:16 General Information
RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89221)
From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM (NR)
Hope to see ya at there in atlanta... What your planning on is just what
the Texas croud did to get to the Chicago Fest this spring... put together
a caravan of people, and even pick up some people on the way. They
rented a full sized van, and had at least 6 people in it, plus all their
gear. It worked out pretty good for all of them. It is a great way to get
people to a show that might not normally go if thay had to drive themselfs.
(personally, I LOVE to drive...) Hope to see ya all there... I got to
start saveing $$$ myself, instead of buying all kinds of new upgrades
for my BBS...
--
Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group
UUCP: amiserv.xnet.com!vpnet!sandv!mithelen ...or... mithelen@sandv.chi.il.us
Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com
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End of Thread.
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89206 9-AUG 22:56 General Information
CD-i Update
From: BOISY To: ALL
Time for another CD-i update...
I picked up the Digital Video Cartridge today, along with Dragon's Lair
(remember the old coin-op?) and The Firm.
Installing the cartridge was easy. All I had to do was pop the slim
cover from the back of the player, insert the cartridge, and give it a firm
push so that the connector made contact. That was it.
I turned on the player... same as usual. Nothing showed up to indicate
I had the new full motion video cartridge installed. I slipped in Dragon's
Lair....
TOTALLY AWESOME! Just as I remembered it! The full motion video is sweet,
and the sound is superb on my stereo system. Except instead of standing
up at a machine, throwing quarters in a slot, I can kick back on the
sofa and play for free!
After playing with that game for a while, I inserted Disc One of "The Firm"
(it's a 3 CD set). Boy, oh boy! The video looks just as good as a VCR,
if not better, and the sound is crisp! While the movie is playing, you can
press one of the action buttons, and a small menu bar comes up at the
bottom. From there you can use the mouse to pause (and we're talking
crystal clear pausing here folks, picture perfect), rewind, fast forward
and set volume up or down as needed. Rewind isn't the same as on your
VCR. It seems to send out a picture every in increments of 10 to 15 seconds,
which increases the longer you have it rewinding or fast forwarding.
Slow motion is fantastic! None of this jerky stuff like a VCR. And the
slow motion speed is adjustable.
And of course, this is all under OS-9. That's the amazing part... all of
this software is written under OS-9.
--
Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY
|_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005
I use... _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us
|_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems
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89220 10-AUG 23:19 General Information
RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89206)
From: JOHNBAER To: BOISY
Hello Boisy!
> ... While the movie is playing,
> you can press one of the action buttons, and a small menu bar comes up at
> the bottom. From there you can use the mouse to pause (and we're talking
> crystal clear pausing here folks, picture perfect)...
Did you try freeze frame with a move running ? It's really different!
The picture is a screen dump AND the CD keeps running the sound track!
When you un-freeze, the TV screen is updated to where the sound track
is at, at that instant. Try that with a VCR <G>.
--
John -
< Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & IX 1.2.0 >
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89229 11-AUG 05:00 General Information
RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89206)
From: MREGC To: BOISY
> The video looks just as good as a VCR, if not better, and the sound is
> crisp!
I have seen one where the mpeg compression is noticeable, but I have
Star Trek VI and The Hunt for Red October, and they both look perfect too.
> And of course, this is all under OS-9. That's the amazing part... all of
> this software is written under OS-9.
Yeah, I always make sure to point out to people that its just an MM/1
with an extra VSC chip running those titles. Of course, when I really think
about that it kind of depresses me when I compare CD-i stuff with what I'm
working on for the MM/1! :)
..Eric...
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89245 12-AUG 06:32 General Information
RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89220)
From: BOISY To: JOHNBAER
> Did you try freeze frame with a move running ? It's really different!
> The picture is a screen dump AND the CD keeps running the sound track!
> When you un-freeze, the TV screen is updated to where the sound track
> is at, at that instant. Try that with a VCR <G>.
Yeah, I tried that. I wonder what that's for. To bypass objectionable
pictures perhaps?
--
Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY
|_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005
I use... _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us
|_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems
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89254 12-AUG 23:00 General Information
RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89245)
From: JOHNBAER To: BOISY
> Yeah, I tried that. I wonder what that's for. To bypass objectionable
> pictures perhaps?
How about, so you can realy see a fast action `shot' without
all that stoping, rewinding, playback stuff that you have to do
with a vcr..? At least you get a clean picture.. unlike a
freeze frame on the vcr.
--
John -
< Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & IX 1.2.0 >
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89257 13-AUG 04:12 General Information
RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89245)
From: MDALENE To: BOISY
>Yeah, I tried that. I wonder what that's for. To bypass objectionable
>pictures perhaps?
either that or, for someone to take a camera and take snapshots of the
screen while still following the movie ;)
Michele Marie Dalene
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End of Thread.
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89209 10-AUG 10:50 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89089)
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM
CoCo3, 1 meg, COMM-4 4 serial ports (6551 chips used) Nitros-9 1.16
i have an IRQ coming from the comm-4 directly into the cpu (irq hack)
two US robotics sportster 14400 modems
Mike
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89210 10-AUG 10:50 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89093)
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: MMCCLELLAND
i forget who took over for nitros-9 but im sure it will be posted here when
the new version is ready.
I am using a COMM-4 which is 4 serial ports in one pak. It uses 6551 chips
like the tandy one
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89215 10-AUG 21:36 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89210)
From: DSRTFOX To: MIKE_GUZZI
Northern Xposure took over NitrOS-9 distribution.
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89222 10-AUG 23:56 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89209)
From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI
Geez Mike, sounds like a pretty sophisticated setup. I'm not familiar with
Comm-4. I'm getting a Disto 4in1 to hook to my SC-II. Right now I have a mpi
with Tandy Rs232pak. I'm just wondering what else I'll need besides the
hi speed modem. Now I'm going to ask what may be a really dumb question to
someone who knows about the internals of the coco. Once I mate the 4in1 to
my SC-II, can I still use that controller with a mpi? I'd like to so I could
maybe use one of the now freed mpi slots for a serial mouse, and/or parallel
printer(2nd). One last question, what does a Robotics sportster 14400 modem
go for($$). Thanx For getting back to me. Charlie
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89223 11-AUG 00:05 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89210)
From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI
After reading this message, it becomes cleared what a comm-4 is about. Can
you run simultaneous devices on it, like 2 modems at the same time? Where
does one get this piece of hardware? Again thanx Charlie.
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89225 11-AUG 03:22 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89222)
From: SAUSAGESAM To: CHARLESAM
Hi .. I just bught my 14.4k UD Robotics sportster modem a couple weeks ago
for $149.. (Well actually it was abut a month ago when I bought it).
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89231 11-AUG 18:17 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89222)
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM
I would assume you could use the disto 4-in-1 in the MPI, but someone who
owns one could answer that for sure.
Well you have most of what you need. You will need to do some sort of IRQ hack
to the pak to get the speed, replace the clock module with a better one.
Nitros-9 is defintely a big help (i couldn't get 9600 baud without it)
Sportsster modems run for about $125 nowadays.
Mike
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89232 11-AUG 18:18 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89223)
From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM
Yes i can run all 4 serial ports at the same time if i wish. it has a
circuit inside to avoid clashing IRQ's so all of them go through.
Its no longer made, but you can make a dual version by modifing another
rs232 pak to address differently, that will give you 2 ports.
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89234 11-AUG 21:08 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89223)
From: REVKAK To: CHARLESAM
I don't know how familiar you are with the 4 in 1, but it does not have
all of the hardware lines that you probably need for 9600 speed. There
are text files in the general database describing how to modify it. If
you need help with the 4 in 1, I run mine without a MPI and it does
great and it already has a parallel port built in. Give me a call
and we can work on it.
Talk with you later,
Keith
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89236 11-AUG 23:04 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89225)
From: CHARLESAM To: SAUSAGESAM
I quess I could manage that(149). Where did you purchase it? Thanx Charlie
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89237 11-AUG 23:06 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89231)
From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
Thanx Mike, once I gather the hardware, I'll get back here for the hack.
I'm running Nitros-9 so thats no problem. Charlie
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89238 11-AUG 23:09 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89232)
From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR)
For now I'll settle for one that handles the 9600 that delphi offers. I'm
not terrible good at hardware hacking. Thanx again Charlie
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89239 11-AUG 23:11 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89234)
From: CHARLESAM To: REVKAK
I will definitely take you up on your offer. Also, looking forward now to
Atlanta. Start saving your pennies. Charlie
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89240 11-AUG 23:51 Telecom (6809)
RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89236)
From: SAUSAGESAM To: CHARLESAM (NR)
Got it at Microcenter...
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End of Thread.
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89216 10-AUG 21:38 General Information
Info Xpress
From: DSRTFOX To: ALL
Since Mark Griffith left, where can a copy of Info Xpress for the CoCo be
purchased? Doesn't it allow downloading messages and replying off-line?
A fellow in Australia calls in here occasionally and could REALLY use it
if it does!! Please send the address where it can be bought to COCOLINK
here on delphi!!!
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89217 10-AUG 22:17 General Information
RE: Info Xpress (Re: Msg 89216)
From: CPERRAULT To: DSRTFOX (NR)
Frank, send email to Bill Dickhaus(the author) regarding Infoexpress. I
think he is gonna sell it independently, unless he has another vendor
doing the marketing. His username name is(easy enough) Billdickhaus
See Ya
>Chris<
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89267 13-AUG 15:11 General Information
RE: Info Xpress (Re: Msg 89216)
From: DBREEDING To: DSRTFOX (NR)
> Since Mark Griffith left, where can a copy of Info Xpress for the CoCo be
> purchased?
I think Mark is still selling "ix". I emailed him over on CIS and he gave
me prices etc, and from the content of his reply, I assumed this...
at any rate, I sent him a check for my copy.
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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End of Thread.
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89219 10-AUG 23:10 General Information
Monitor specs
From: MRGOOD To: ALL
Can anyone give me the specs for a Mitsubishi Model C6922PK monitor?
Reason is, I know someone who is selling one and I'd like to know if
it is usable on my MM1 (i.e., 15.75 Khz horizontal sync).
Alternatively, is there an info file in existence that gives specs
for monitors? (I know there's one for hard disks).
Hugo
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89226 11-AUG 03:36 General Information
AD&D Magazine
From: PUTYTHECAT To: ALL
Hey everybody,
I'm thinking about putting together a on-line role-playing magazine
centered around AD&D. What I would like to do is collect submissions from
various people containing new spells, monsters, magical items, stories, etc.
similar to "Dragon" or "White Dwarf". Is anybody interested??????
The magazine would contain no actual programs so it could be used
by everyone of all types of computers although I would have to work up
some kind of format for each type as to make it easy to read (e.g. AmigaGuide
for Amigas, Hypercard for Macs etc.)
Any types of articles or submissions complete and prefessional or
otherwise would be accepted (with some editing) and EMailed out to a bunch
of people. (I would keep a list of subscribers Internet addresses).
Price of the magazine would be 1 submission for a lifetime of
issues. Almost everyone has a few extra creations lying around.
If you are interested in such a venture, then leave me a message in
my mailbox.
Internet address is PutytheCat@Delphi.com
Please state the words "Magazine info" as the subject.
David Manvell
14811 Bayview Drive
Woodbridge, VA 22191-3209
p.s. Ideas and comments would be greatly appreciated!
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89227 11-AUG 03:41 General Information
OS-9 Live! meeting
From: JOELHEGBERG To: ALL
This Saturday (August 13th), the next OS-9 Live! meeting will be held
right here at 10pm Eastern time.
The topic this month is "Using OS-9 Pipes and Data Modules", and will be
hosted by Boisy G. Pitre and Joel Mathew Hegberg. This is a great
opportunity for novice OS-9 programmers to get some of their pressing
questions answered, or just exposed to these two very interesting
topics.
The "live" format seems to work very well, and everyone has a great
time. The meetings usually last about an hour. Hope to see everyone
there!
Best wishes,
Joel Mathew Hegberg.
=======================================================================
= Joel Mathew Hegberg M.O.T.D. Editor =
= (JoelHegberg@delphi.com) 68'micros Columnist =
= (JHegberg@aol.com) Sub-Etha Software Programmer =
=======================================================================
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89252 12-AUG 21:44 General Information
RE: OS-9 Live! meeting (Re: Msg 89227)
From: CPERRAULT To: JOELHEGBERG
re:OS-9 Live!
I'll definately be there for this one. Unless something drastic
happens of course... :-)
>Chris<
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End of Thread.
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89235 11-AUG 22:20 OSK Applications
New Upload
From: VAXELF To: ALL
I have upload a program called "xlate.lzh"
This is a 6809 to 68000/20 assembly code translater.
John D.
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89241 12-AUG 04:17 System Modules (6809)
scsi in Burke and Burke with Scsisys10
From: MDALENE To: ALL
I have a weird question, I know I should ask Chris burke this but.... Since
he does not write scsisys and this also applies to that author here is my
question
I found a great deal on a Maxtor 290MB 12ms SCSI HD. and a 8 bit scsi
card. I was going to buy it for my xt but.... I think Cecilia (My coco 3)
would make better use of it. I was going to install it externally so it
could plug into the card via the 25pin scsi external connector. First of all
does Scsisys allow a user to set the port address easily along with the slot
selection? B&B needs BOTH! and also... would the thing work The card I am
thinking of ordering uas a scsi driver you load from Disk. I deliberatly
said "NO" to the HD only version as it only allowd two HD devices and did
not even alllow Tape or CD-rom. (When I buy cards, I use device drivers,
just like on my Coco, I eat TPA (cp/m speak) but then upgrading is easier.
Does Scsi sys 1.0 have a certain register demand? Does it nessarly need
a certain brand of Scsi chip? or if I had that info would the author prepare
me a version for testing? If it does not... I have a hungry Xt waiting...
but The case looks like it matches the coco 3 Much better. I was going to
lay out the Scsi HD to use 30 Meg partitions on the IBM. Give the old St-225
(20 MEG! Geez! Cecilia only fills hers half way full! and it is the same
size but newer Kalok 320!)
Sorry this is so long but I really think that knowing this info could
give us with the B&B system a second chance to go SCSI. I want to use SCSI
as the MFM hardware is not easily found new and I do not want to have to
worry if the HD croaks and I got an old outdated interface that has no
support. I think Chris Burke did mention that if the card selected does not
use IRQ's it may work. I do not know if it does or not but My HD on my XT
does have an IRQ address and it works fine on my Coco 3.
Michele Marie Dalene
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89249 12-AUG 20:43 General Information
Atlanta Fest
From: MRUPGRADE To: DSRTFOX (NR)
Well, Frank,, I jumped on the TWA 2 fer 1 deal (closes midnight tonight).
So me'n my wife will be flying in Fri afternoon. I'm planing on staating
til Tue,, to catch soem of theh great city. I'll probably give my wife
50 bucks,, and let her go onna shopping spree (hehe). Naw,, really
I'd like to see some of Atlanta. Since I'm spen
ding enough bucks to get there. It does sound like a nice town.
.
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89253 12-AUG 22:49 General Information
RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89249)
From: BOISY To: MRUPGRADE
I took advantage of the TWA deal too. $170 round trip from Des Moines
to Atlanta is an outstanding price. So I might as well ask while I'm
on the subject: will there be anyone arriving at Atlanta airport around
1:15pm Friday afternoon? James Jones and I could use a ride to the
Holiday Inn.
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End of Thread.
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89250 12-AUG 20:47 Applications (6809)
New Software Announcement
From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
** New software Announcement **
** HOME-PAC OS - Home Manager **
Developed by Terry Simons with over six years of upgrading
the RSDOS Version, this became a very powerful set of software.
Basically it is a check program that turns into a home
accountant. Suitable to keep books for personal, business, and
club activities. A strong point thoroughout this package it's
personalization features. Which makes many entries a one key
(macro) or default entry. John Hoit (CoCo user gone to PC in '93)
said, "I have yet to find a program that inputs and handles data
with the ease of Home-Pac".
With a mailer, that would will a from a Christmas card list to
publishers data base. Many have stated it was unrivaled for CoCo
RSDOS Software of it's kind.
Now under OS-9 Chris Dekker has incorprated still more
features. And through the use of windows an increased processing
speed, "Home-Pac OS" now rivals anything avalaible on the CoCo.
1. All programs menu enter tied.
2. Handles two seperate accounts from one menu.
2. Full 80 column displays, giving an over view.
4. Creditcard & Check balances constant on screen.
5. Generally does things with ease, taking the
"work" out of "Bookwork".
6. With an equally powerful Mailer.
7. Plus "Disk Jacket" program to help you find your files fast.
8. And "From-Maker" for shopping lists, Scorecards, etc.
9. With INSTALL program no OS knowledge is needed.
Sold for years as the best RSDOS can offer,
now even better under OS-9.
Requires COCO 3, 80 Column monitor, Drive, and OS Lev II.
Outside MI&CC sold only by: C Dekker Software,
RR#4, Centreville, NB Canada, EOJ 1OH
$29.95 plus $4.00 shipping Please where you saw this.
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89255 13-AUG 00:23 General Information
CoCo Registry
From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
** New Product Announcement & Review **
The CoCo Registry
from Rick's Computer Enterprises
The purpose: to give a central point of reference for all
those who want to be part of the CoCo Community.
.
In my mail today was a package from Rick's. Opening it, I
discovered a bright colored flippie. "The CoCo Registry", First
issue.
I poped in in the drive and typed RUN"CR. I always hafta see
if it's also ADOS compatible,,, sure nuff it is. It comes on
screen with a template format, and says "one moment please".
Well, it should say "several moments please", because it loads
the entire data file for: Two Hundred and Sixty Two CoCo'ists.
Gosh Rick,, do you do all this in 128K? May I first off say,
"my hats off Rick. That's quite a piece of programming!"
The template consists of various boxes or windows, displaying
a column of names, a window showing the highlited persons Name,
Address, Ph, etc another with an impressive list of Magazines
and Groups underlining which group/mag the person supports.
Another diplays sytem information of the supporter. And still
another has a search/ print on various formats by your
direction. Oh, yeah, it does come with printed Doc's. But it's
so user friendly I didn't find a need for them.
If you're asking how can you get all this on one screen? You
can't, at 128 columns it's just too much. But still you can
switch side to side with the arrow keys. This leaves room for
overlap and still a convient very read for 128 columns.
On the flipside (I did say it's a flippie, right) is a list of
advertisers, each giving a discount.
If you're thinking this would be good for dealers only,,,
perhaps you're forgetting, there may well be a CoCo user living
around the corner from you in your own town? Or several?
First off: be a part of the CoCo Community. To get on the
list is "free". Send a SASE to:
Rick's Computer Enterprise P O Box 276 Lexington, KY 42539
He'll send you the form.
The purpose is to give a central point of reference for all
CoCo those who want to be part of the CoCo Community.
This is bound to grow as Fests and clubs start up fuller in
the fall. Their will be more issues. The Cost? Check with
Rick. Like most things he offers,, it'll be a bargin.
Terry Simons,
Editor for The UPGRADE Diskmagazine
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89268 13-AUG 15:12 General Information
RE: CoCo Registry (Re: Msg 89255)
From: DBREEDING To: MRUPGRADE
> First off: be a part of the CoCo Community. To get on the
> list is "free". Send a SASE to:
> Rick's Computer Enterprise P O Box 276 Lexington, KY 42539
^^^^^^^^^
Terry, it should be "Liberty", KY.
-- David Breeding --
CompuServe : 72330,2051
Delphi : DBREEDING
*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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End of Thread.
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89256 13-AUG 00:25 General Information
CoCo Registry
From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
I forgot to mention Rick is: CFDMRICK on Delphi
Terry g
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89258 13-AUG 05:53 General Information
MM/1's Full Potential
From: MREGC To: ALL
With the recent conversation online here about CD-i and the titles
available for it I've been thinking. As a programmer I have tapped the
limits of how much speed I can get out of a 68070 equipped MM/1 using C
to do full-screen scrolling while programming "by the rules". Yet when
I look at some of the titles available on CD-i that do full-screen
scrolling they do it several times faster, and I'm sure CD-i programmers
aren't programming in assembly.
This leads me to 2 possible reasons for the performance difference,
(well, 3 reasons, but the most obvious, poor programming on my part, I've
ruled out since 2 other programmers whose opinion I value highly agree
that the code I'm using couldn't be done any more efficiently,) first, it
could be that CD-i programmers are using features of the 68070 that we
aren't, or second, the extra VSC chip that CD-i has is giving them extra
power to utilize.
If option 1 is correct, then what are they getting out of the 68070
that we aren't? I must admit to being somewhat, if not completely ignorant
of the hardware abilities that lie outside of the normal range of
programming, but one thing that comes to mind is our DMA channels. Maybe
I'm off on what DMA really is, but, as I understand it, aren't we using 1
DMA channel for sound and the other for SCSI device access? Is it
possible for a programmer to change this setup in a program so that one
channel gets used for sound and the other gets used to speed up movement
of screen data to screen memory?
If option 2 is correct, and the second VSC chip gives them more
programming power, then the 1 VSC we have should give us SOME extra
programming power. I know the VSC has a PIXAC, and its my understanding
that the only thing we're using it for is the mouse pointer. Can we get
access to the PIXAC from within C? Or would we have to program in
assembly? Since K-Windows is using it for the mouse pointer, would
accessing the PIXAC mess up K-Windows? Are there other VSC features that
we aren't using or don't have access to?
Whether DMA or the PIXAC is the answer to the CD-i speed difference,
the reason for their underutilization on the MM/1 is tied directly to
K-Windows, and how Kevin decided to use them. As much as I love K-Windows
and regard Kevin Darling as a top-notch programmer, I don't think he
wrote K-Windows with optimizing graphics manipulation in mind, whereas CD-i
was designed with just that purpose in mind. Can we gain access to these
underutilized features of the MM/1 hardware without wreaking havoc on
K-Windows and remain "within the rules" of OS9?
Are both of these options incorrect, and there's another reason for
the performance difference?
..Eric...
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89262 13-AUG 13:30 General Information
CD-i Update
From: PHXKEN To: ALL
Following Boise thread, I paid a visit to my local Service Merchandise.
They see the newer Magnavox version of the CD-i machine. The clerk said
that the video cartridge was not available for that machine and they
had no software for the cartridge. Opposite story at Sears, no
Magnavox model and no reduction in price on the Phillips model.
Incredible Universe has the Phillips at $20 off and the video cartridge
and many many titles. Needless to say, I am not pleased with
this marketing technique. Now, I do not know if there is or is not
a video cartridge for the cheaper Magnavox unit. Will keep looking.
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89270 13-AUG 22:50 System Modules (6809)
cc3disk
From: SMITHBA To: DBREEDING (NR)
You mentioned in a letter about a patch for cc3disk, so it will clear it's
interupt when it is done. I assume you are talking about the super controller
2 no halt drivers. that is exactly what I have been looking for. Could you tell
me exactly what the name of the file is, and what topic it's under.
also i'm looking for a patch to the kernal patch by bruce istead. it's
supposed to recognize up to two meg, but will only recognize one meg.
I had to use the original kernal, and I patched the old mega command.
any help would be appreciated.
Brian Smith (SMITHBA)
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