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Dueling MM/1's
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From: LUCKYONE To: CBJ
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Carl,
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I hope you can make to the March Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group meeting
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because we are going to have the dueling MM/1's. In one corner will be
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Eddie Kuns (EDDIEKUNS) with his newly repaired and upgraded MM/1a and in
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the other corner will be Paul Jerkatis (MITHELEN) with his MM/1.
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I am looking forward to the duel. And please let's not have another wife
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excuse <g>.
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Howard
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Howard Luckey
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delphi LUCKYONE
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CIS 74746,3207
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********** By InfoXpress 1.01 of course! **********
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85952 27-FEB 20:36 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85866)
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From: THETAURUS To: ISC
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>>Damn good reply, Chris,...
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Thanks! It's good to know I'm not the only one who feels this
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way. I guess if a vendor is selling some of the old Tandy stuff that
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it has in stock, that is different, but ordering from Tandy directly,
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well that is a no-no. This assumes you are looking for a product you
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can get from the current supporters of the Coco, not exactly a seldom
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found item<Dev Pak does come to mind>.
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>> I wish there were a way that they could all get rich.
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Well, I guess we could all send our checks directly...nah maybe
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that's not such a good idea :-) The big problem here is, it's all
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mental. People think that now that the machine isn't officially
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supported, that it's no good. That's not the case. There are still
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vendors around with more software available than people think or give
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credit for. I would also say that 99.9% of the products are either
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generous or more than generous with their pricing.
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It is sad when you get onto Fido or some other place and see
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people who are leaving the Coco making more money getting rid of it,
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then some vendors do supporting it. C'mon Spend Spend Spend, The
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Recession is OVER<DUCK<grin> ;-)
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>Chris<
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85953 27-FEB 20:36 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85897)
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From: THETAURUS To: SCWEGERT
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Thanks for the address Steve. I once had his CIS Id around here
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somewhere before, but lost it, plus didn't know if he had an Internet
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connection there, so I didn't mention it. Would be nice to have him
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here also tho :-)
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>Chris<
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85954 27-FEB 21:42 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85881)
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From: DSRTFOX To: ISC
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It DOES take an extra step, but to edit all with Simply better then use
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the RSDOS command to transfer to OS-9 is doable, then final edit or even
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spell check under OS-9. But you are correct, it would be a pain, especially
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for that last minute file! I do the same in a way, using SB to do some of
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the editing for "68' micros" then transferring to a PC using a utility that
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reads CoCo disks. But I don't have to reset an boot everytime I want to
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transfer a file!!
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85967 28-FEB 16:09 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85913)
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From: ISC To: DIETER
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Dieter,
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I have found a copy of Dynastar/Dynaspell so, by all means, sell them to
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anyone else you choose and thanks very much.
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Bill
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85968 28-FEB 16:10 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85952)
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From: ISC To: THETAURUS
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Chris,
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You are so right. The CoCo, with all its warts, is still a great machine.
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Those people reading this message, remember to ask here for support or for
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software needs. Patronize our vendors and the fests too! You won't know
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whether your CoCo will do what you want until you ask. You may be
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surprised. Avoiding messy Dos is worth it. (I am curious about the Apple
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version of the Power PC though.)
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Bill
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85977 28-FEB 23:17 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85843)
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From: NEALSTEWARD To: KEITHJABBOTT (NR)
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If you want to stay with RSDOS, the simplest, yet very powerful is TW128
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for the Coco 3. If you have to transfer text files to/from MSDOS format,
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then OS-9 would be easier using the shareware PCDOS files. And for an
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excellent, mouse driven word processor, Owl Ware still carries Window
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Writer for about $50. WW is very intuitive (read easy to use) powerful
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and fast. However, you must have a coco 3 and OS-9 Level II.
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85978 28-FEB 23:25 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85949)
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From: THETAURUS To: COLORSYSTEMS
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>>...but when your needs get a little more serious, the
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VED/VPRINT/TSSPELL configuration looks better and better!
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And of course, having WPSHELL in CMDS for those who like the
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graphical WP environment, doesn't hurt at all either. RIGHT ZACK? ;-)
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>Chris<
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85979 28-FEB 23:25 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85881)
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From: NEALSTEWARD To: ISC
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Bill, I agree completely (even if it is a Tandy product) that TSspell is
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the best spell checker for OS-9. I've been using it for years. I have
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to patch a filename within Window Writer, and then I should be able to
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access TS from within WW. Easy to use and fast. I like the direct mode,
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I have a macro in Presto Partner that calls it up for quick checking while
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I'm online or any other reason I need a check the spelling of a single
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word.
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85982 1-MAR 06:32 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85953)
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From: SCWEGERT To: THETAURUS
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> Thanks for the address Steve. I once had his CIS Id around here
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> somewhere before, but lost it, plus didn't know if he had an Internet
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> connection there, so I didn't mention it. Would be nice to have him
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> here also tho :-)
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With CompuServe drastically cutting their rates for connect time, perhaps
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you should dust off that CIS ID? :-)
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*- Steve -*
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86018 4-MAR 00:12 Applications (6809)
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RE: TSEDIT? (Re: Msg 85982)
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From: THETAURUS To: SCWEGERT
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>>...perhaps you should dust off that CIS ID? :-)
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I was reading about that price cut in Boardwatch, right before I
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got your message as a matter of fact. It certainly will make CIS more
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competitive with the lower cost services. Unfortunately I can't affort
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a second service these days :-( but one of these days I would love to
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sign back up now that I have Infoexpress. Probably won't be for a long
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time tho. Has activity in the OS9 section there picked up noticeably
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with the drop in price, or is it still a little early to tell?
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>Chris<
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End of Thread.
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85955 27-FEB 21:50 General Information
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RE: Unix System V problem (Re: Msg 85896)
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From: DSRTFOX To: ALWAGNER
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Well, maybe there is a way to allow the system to be shut down from a
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terminal. Unless that is so, you'll just have to hang in there until you
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find the problem. If the only affect is the sysop console locking up,
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I'd leave the thing up until everybody went home or it was close to quitting
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time to reset it. At least there is no need to keep everyone from working!
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That might help uncover the culprit also, if the system DID crash, there is
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a process log (I think) somewhere that tells you what program interuppted
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everything.. am I right about that??
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85959 27-FEB 23:41 General Information
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RE: Unix System V problem (Re: Msg 85955)
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From: MITHELEN To: ALWAGNER
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You should be able to just type "sync" at any terminal (or even
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log in as "sync") and then be able to safely pull the plug without
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haveing to worry about corrupting thefile systems. You may also
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be able to just type "reboot" from a root login on a remote terminal
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to do a "soft reboot" which may free up the stuck console.
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--
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Paul
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86046 5-MAR 07:47 General Information
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RE: Unix System V problem (Re: Msg 85955)
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From: ALWAGNER To: DSRTFOX (NR)
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I'm just learning about things like process logs, etc. and am not sure if our
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system was setup with one. As for waiting til everyone goes home, its usually
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first thing in the morning that the problem is noticed. It takes about 45 min.
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to recover from a shutdown and if the sys.admin. gets right on it, most of the
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crew is just finding the bottom of the first cup of coffee by then and will
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be waking up shortly.
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It looks like we will just have to struggle with it until it fails sufficiently
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to allow for trouble shooting.
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End of Thread.
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85956 27-FEB 22:09 General Information
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6551 Printer driver
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From: ILLUSIONIST To: ALL
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I have a second rs232 pak here, and I was thinking of changing its
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address and hooking up my printer to it...and I was wondering if there is
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a printer driver for a 6551 serial port...I _THINK_ SACIA would work, but
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I wouldnt bother hooking it up unless I could print faster than I already
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do (9600, from the bitbanger) my printer can do 19.2k could SACIA be
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made to send data at 19.2? I figured that if a patch was needed, I could
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patch sacia and rename it to something else, so I could have both in my
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boot...If it cant be done (easily, of course it CAN be done) then I guess
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I will just hook up a serial mouse (although I consider that a waste,
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I dont use the mouse enough to bother, the normal coco mouse is fine)
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thanks, -* Mike
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85957 27-FEB 22:41 General Information
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RE: 6551 Printer driver (Re: Msg 85956)
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From: RANDYKWILSON To: ILLUSIONIST
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Mike, from thjhe top of my head, I think you should be able to get 19200 to
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work with a 6551 port. The question is why do it? Can your printer print
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faster than 960 CPS? If not, then you'll just spend more time in the busy
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mode.
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If you do try it, do NOT use SAcia unless your printer requires hardware
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handshake. If your printer can do xon/xoff, then use Aciapak. Even if
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print speed limits throughput, the system overhead will be reduced, maybe
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even enough to be noticable. :>
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Randy
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85970 28-FEB 19:57 General Information
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RE: 6551 Printer driver (Re: Msg 85957)
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From: DSRTFOX To: ILLUSIONIST
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Unless you use a printer buffer with 64K or more, I doubt you'll notice any
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speed increase at all, as the printer probably doesn't print fast enough to
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even keep up with 9600 baud. My LX-800 prints at 180cps, and I can't tell any
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difference in time at all at anything over 2400 baud, and that in DECB.
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85983 1-MAR 17:52 General Information
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RE: 6551 Printer driver (Re: Msg 85957)
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From: ILLUSIONIST To: RANDYKWILSON
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Thanks Randy, I forget the CPS of my printer (but I dont think it is 960)
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however, I have a rather large hardware print buffer (640k), that I got
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a great deal on ($10 at a flea market, guy didnt know what he had) so
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I would like to print to the buffer at 19.2, and let the print grab
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the text as it needs it...I just want to see the "OS9: cat junk.file > /p"
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go away quicker..and the fact that I really dont like the bitbanger..
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anyway thanks...I will make up a descriptor for /p on AciaPak tonight..
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-* Mike
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85985 1-MAR 17:56 General Information
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RE: 6551 Printer driver (Re: Msg 85970)
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From: ILLUSIONIST To: DSRTFOX
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Yeah, I have a print buffer, its a 640k (yes, 640k) buffer...I will never
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fill that buffer up...but hey, like I said to randy, it only cost me $10
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-* Mike
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End of Thread.
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85958 27-FEB 23:10 Programmers Den
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RE: pf question (Re: Msg 85914)
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From: COCOKIWI To: ILLUSIONIST
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I have the NEW version...HP 550c printer<grin>..nice......but! I have found
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some problems in printing color....it will print,but not as it should!
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pictures are ok! real weird....I made a game board the other day for the KID!
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and some were blue,and the others were red,the Blue was clear and the red was
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just lite lines,and some text was hardly readable in red! black was fine!
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this is with windows on a clone 386......although if I print color pictures
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they come out fine........nothing is wrong with the printer! I have had the
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problem of color vanishing after it starts to print a card......the fist one
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starts color,all the rest are black/white.....strange.....have not figured it
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out yet!!....thinking maybe the drivers are flacky!<grin>..MESSY dos at its best
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ARGgg....Dennis
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85984 1-MAR 17:54 Programmers Den
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RE: pf question (Re: Msg 85958)
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From: ILLUSIONIST To: COCOKIWI
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yeah, I think I heard about the 550c doing that, I think HP has replacement
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drivers..
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-* Mike
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85989 1-MAR 23:11 Programmers Den
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RE: pf question (Re: Msg 85984)
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From: COCOKIWI To: ILLUSIONIST
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Yeah!I,ve been thinking that also! The only thing that it could be!
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although when i talked to them back when I got it They tended to blame the
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"other" software<grin>,not!our problem!
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Dennis
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End of Thread.
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85960 28-FEB 00:26 General Information
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CDI Demo
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From: MRUPGRADE To: JEJONES
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Hi James,,, looking ofrward to th CDI Demo at next Saturdays MI&CC Meet.
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Sounds neat,,, I'm trying to get my daughter to vo
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come along.
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Til then,,, Terry Simons
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85961 28-FEB 01:33 General Information
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RE: Hard Drive Problem (Re: Msg 85883)
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From: PAGAN To: RANDYKWILSON
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>I have an old ST251 also. That critter has a bearing type whine all the
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>time, and occasionally goes into a fit that sounds sorta like the old Star
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>Trek transporter. It's been doing this four about four years now. I would
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>suggest keeping good backups, and reformatting that drive maybe every six
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>months.
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Thanks, I keep all the important stuff backed up regularly (daily or as
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often as it changes) and completely backup the drive about every six or
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seven months.
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Stephen (PAGAN)
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85962 28-FEB 01:34 General Information
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RE: Hard Drive Problem (Re: Msg 85862)
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From: PAGAN To: REVWCP
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85862 24-FEB 08:25 General Information
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RE: Hard Drive Problem (Re: Msg 85858)
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From: REVWCP To: PAGAN (NR)
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>I have an ST138-n that whines like a vacuum cleaner. It has not failed yet,
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>and this has been going on for 4 years.
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Maybe I was overreacting. Both drives are quiet now but I get nervous every
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time I hear something like that. They are both rebuilt drives so who knows
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when they may decide to fail on me.
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Stephen (PAGAN)
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85966 28-FEB 01:40 General Information
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RE: Hard Drive Problem (Re: Msg 85962)
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From: REVWCP To: PAGAN
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Well Stephen,
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I never had a problem with it, but I did do frequent backups to be safe.
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It came out of an external unit for a MAC and at that time a MAC dealer
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said that it had too many bad sectors or something. In any case Sister
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Cornelia, OJN, gave it to me and said that since I was a hardware hacker
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maybe I could fix it. I ran it under a DISTO/CCHDISK at first, then
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Ken Scales Drivers, and most recently SCSI 1.0 by Matt Thompson. Its never
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gotten louder, although it might have changed pitch over the years.
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With all best wishes,
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Brother Jeremy, CSJW
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OS9 User's Group Treasurer
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85971 28-FEB 20:02 General Information
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RE: Hard Drive Problem (Re: Msg 85962)
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From: DSRTFOX To: PAGAN
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The problem may not be a bearing at all! There is a grounding strap that
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touches the platter spindle on the bottom of the drive. At a certain
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speed, this thing will resonate with age, as the little tip wears slightly.
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No, don't risk oiling it, as that would only work for a few moths anyway.
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Instead, put a small dab of glue, preferably silicone, on the arm. You
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change the frequency it will resonate at by doing that, and thus change the
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pitch or at least dampen the effect. This will usually all but end the whine.
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85972 28-FEB 20:03 General Information
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RE: Hard Drive Problem (Re: Msg 85966)
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From: DSRTFOX To: REVWCP
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Read 85971!!
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85963 28-FEB 01:35 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 85909)
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From: PAGAN To: BOISY
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>MW has granted permission for the following modules to be distributed
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>without any associated royalties:
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>fpu
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>cio
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>csl
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>cio020
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>csl020
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>fpsp (68040 floating point software module)
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>This may not be a complete list, but I am quite sure that the 6 modules
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>shown above are eligible for redistribution without cost.
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I've recieved similar comments from others at Microware,
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From Rob Beaver (robb@microware.com):
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"You are free to redistribute either csl and any of the floating point
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emulation modules. We consider these runtime support modules.
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Microware charges no royalties for the use of their C support code."
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From Ric Yeates (ric@microware.com):
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"CSL and FPU executables can be distributed freely."
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Reckon that means it's OK to distribute 'fpu' and 'csl' with programs
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compiled with Ultra C.
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Stephen (PAGAN)
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85964 28-FEB 01:35 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 85909)
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From: PAGAN To: ALL
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There is an error the values I posted for dhrystones as compiled with Ultra
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C. The command line I gave will cause the two modules to be linked as
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I-code and the optimizing pass to made over the resultant file. I was using
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a makefile that linked the files as .r files which means that the values I
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reported did not have the advantage of the global optimization .
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The correct values should be:
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Header for: dry21
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Module size: $1B0C #6924
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Microseconds for one run through Dhrystone: 439.1
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Dhrystones per Second: 2277.6
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Stephen (PAGAN)
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85965 28-FEB 01:36 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 85927)
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From: PAGAN To: JES68K
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>How do I get the 1.1.2 update to Ultra C? via Peripheral Technology or
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>MWC? Is it freebie or $$$$$?
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Check with whomever you bought OS9 from. I think Microware has a tiered
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pricing structure for Ultra C. I got my copy of 1.0 for ~$300 from PT via
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Delmar. List price is something much more than that.
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If you already have Ultra C then the upgrade is about $50 without the new
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manuals. There are some difference between the original manuals and the new
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ones but I don't know if they're worth it because I don't know what the new
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manuals cost.
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Stephen (PAGAN)
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85975 28-FEB 22:34 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 85965)
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From: JES68K To: PAGAN
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Thanks for the info on the ULTRA C update ... I bought it from PT direct,
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but have not implemented it due to a harddrive becoming flaky. But if the
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update is worth $50, I'll probably go ahead and get it. I'll try to find
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out the price for new manuals ... it would seem that only sections would
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have to be replaced anyway, not the whole manual, but will find out.
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=== Jesse ===
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85976 28-FEB 22:50 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 85965)
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From: COLORSYSTEMS To: PAGAN
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> Check with whomever you bought OS9 from. I think Microware has a tiered
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> pricing structure for Ultra C. I got my copy of 1.0 for ~$300 from PT
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> via Delmar. List price is something much more than that.
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Yes. List price is $999.95. I got my copy of V1.0 on a special offer
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from MW for $350 or somesuch liek that.
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> If you already have Ultra C then the upgrade is about $50 without the
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> new manuals.
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Sorry, Stephen, that is simply not true. I called MW and spoke with my
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salesman to find out how much an upgrade would cost me. Yes, the upgrade
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cost is a fraction of the original cost, but it doesn't matter specifically
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what you originally paid for it, the upgrade cost is a fraction of what
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MW charges for the product. Bottom line was, I paid $350 for V1.0 of UltraC
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and a V1.1 (or whatever) upgrade would cost me over $400, as it was something
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like 40% of current retail.
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------------------------------------
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Zack C Sessions
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"Always in motion is the future." - Yoda
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86003 2-MAR 23:13 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 85976)
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From: PAGAN To: COLORSYSTEMS
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>I called MW and spoke with my salesman to find out how much an upgrade would
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>cost me. Yes, the upgrade cost is a fraction of the original cost, but it
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>doesn't matter specifically what you originally paid for it, the upgrade
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>cost is a fraction of what MW charges for the product. Bottom line was, I
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>paid $350 for V1.0 of UltraC and a V1.1 (or whatever) upgrade would cost me
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>over $400, as it was something like 40% of current retail.
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I misremember where the figure of $50 for the upgrade came from but I was
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quoted that price. I didn't have to buy it because I had requested the
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upgrade as soon as I knew it was available but the request was shunted to
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limbo for a while before it was straightened out.
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Did you check with the OEM or VAR on your machine? I don't know the details
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but, I think, that there is a different price schedule for an OEM/VAR
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selling to one of his customers versus selling to some one else.
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Stephen (PAGAN)
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86010 3-MAR 05:43 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 85976)
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From: EDELMAR To: COLORSYSTEMS
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Zack,
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> Sorry, Stephen, that is simply not true. ....
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Stephen (PAGAN) is correct .... but so are you. MW has a complex pricing
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structure. Direct sales to end users follow one price schedule. Sales to
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OEM's follow a different price schedule. The OEM is free to set his own end
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user price but may sell to only his customers. We (PT and DELMAR) have
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elected to keep pricing as low as possible and have set a modest markup for
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profit.
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When MW introduced Ultra C at their special price, they also passed on a
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savings to OEMs. During that period, we were able to offer Ultra C at only
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$200 to our customers. Even now, the price to our customers is only $300.
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Upgrades to our customers are $50 without the new manuals. BTW, I do have
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the new manuals but haven't run any kind of a comparison. Don't know if
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they're worth the additional cost or not but I prefer not to have to refer
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to revision notes all the time.
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One other point re Ultra-C. After the initial introduction of Ultra-C, MW
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was providing free upgrades to all owners of Ultra-C for a while. All you
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had to do was request it.
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Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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86013 3-MAR 19:34 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 86010)
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From: JES68K To: EDELMAR
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What is the price for ULTRA C upgrade with new manuals?
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=== Jesse ===
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86016 3-MAR 21:05 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 86010)
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From: COLORSYSTEMS To: EDELMAR
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> When MW introduced Ultra C at their special price, they also passed on a
|
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> savings to OEMs. During that period, we were able to offer Ultra C at
|
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> only $200 to our customers. Even now, the price to our customers is only
|
|
> $300. Upgrades to our customers are $50 without the new manuals. BTW, I
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> do have the new manuals but haven't run any kind of a comparison. Don't
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> know if they're worth the additional cost or not but I prefer not to have
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> to refer to revision notes all the time.
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OK, will you sell me an upgrade for $50, even though I got my original
|
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copy from MW? The check is in the mail tomorrow if so.
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> One other point re Ultra-C. After the initial introduction of Ultra-C,
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> MW was providing free upgrades to all owners of Ultra-C for a while. All
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> you had to do was request it.
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And I would have requested one had I been aware it was available.
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------------------------------------
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Zack C Sessions
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"Always in motion is the future." - Yoda
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86026 4-MAR 04:44 Programmers Den
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RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 86013)
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From: EDELMAR To: JES68K
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Jesse,
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The price of the manuals follows MW's magic price - $195.00 for the set.
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|
Since you purchased Ultra-C from PT, give Fred a call and order from him.
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Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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86027 4-MAR 04:45 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 86016)
|
|
From: EDELMAR To: COLORSYSTEMS
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Zack,
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> OK, will you sell me an upgrade for $50, even though I got my original
|
|
> copy from MW? The check is in the mail tomorrow if so.
|
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Sorry, no. Under the MW OEM License Agreement, you would've had to purchase
|
|
the original copy of Ultra-C from either PT or DELMAR. To purchase Ultra-C,
|
|
you would've had to purchase a SYSTEM IV or V from DELMAR or the boards
|
|
and OS-9 from PT.
|
|
|
|
> And I would have requested one had I been aware it was available.
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|
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Hmm, as I remember, I first heard about MW's upgrade from info posted here
|
|
or one of the other services. Didn't get official notification from MW
|
|
until a month or so later. I did let my customers know.
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|
|
|
I realize that IMS wasn't in a position to do anything about Ultra-C but
|
|
since Blackhawk (NIMITZ) has taken over, maybe he can work something out
|
|
with MW. Try him. Or, you can try 'sweet-talking' your local MW rep.
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|
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|
Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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|
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|
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|
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|
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86029 4-MAR 05:11 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 86027)
|
|
From: JOSEFL To: ALL
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|
|
|
FYI: There is a program module distributed with ultra-C called 'p2init' thaT
|
|
allows you to insert P2 extension modules after boot time, that is on the fly.
|
|
You don't have to change your init module to include fpu (although you can.)
|
|
You can put the command 'p2init fpu' in your startup file and things will work
|
|
just dandy! Saves a few of us some nasty hackin'.
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|
|
|
Josef L.
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|
-*-
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|
|
End of Thread.
|
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|
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|
|
|
|
85969 28-FEB 18:27 General Information
|
|
RE: Message Formatting... (Re: Msg 85540)
|
|
From: AYUSKO To: RICKULAND (NR)
|
|
|
|
Well I had been typing <CR> after filling only a part of the line,
|
|
knowing that it would come out well on everyone's screens,
|
|
and allowing easier editing should I find a mistake,
|
|
since the lines are shorter. Well now MY old messages are all
|
|
screwed up. And do you think even this message looks like the right
|
|
margin is the way it should be ?
|
|
Alex A. Yusko (AYUSKO)
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|
|
|
-*-
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|
|
85973 28-FEB 20:12 OSK Applications
|
|
OSK UUCP
|
|
From: VAXELF To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Is there a UUCP package for OSK??? I thought I read here in the forum
|
|
that a OSK version of UUCP was in beta testing and just about ready to be
|
|
released.
|
|
Otherwise, can RICK's version in the os9 database be easly compiled
|
|
under OSK and used???
|
|
There is a group in the OCN that are working on getting a FIDO based
|
|
BBS for OSK and want to be able to add a UUCP package for Internet News
|
|
|
|
John A. Donaldson
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85974 28-FEB 20:36 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: OSK UUCP (Re: Msg 85973)
|
|
From: BOISY To: VAXELF
|
|
|
|
Q: Is there a UUCP package for OSK???
|
|
A: Yes, I am running it on my machine at home.
|
|
|
|
Q: When is it going to be released?
|
|
A: I haven't the slightest idea. Perhaps you should try flooding Bob
|
|
Billson's mail account with pleas/requests/demands/etc. His e-mail
|
|
address is: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org
|
|
|
|
Q: Why hasn't he released it?
|
|
A: Due to continuous bugs being squashed, the release date has slid
|
|
somewhat. I guess it's a matter of just knowing when enough is
|
|
enough and sending it out to the general public.
|
|
|
|
Q: Was there a second gunman on the grassy knoll? [...]
|
|
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|
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|
|
|
|
85981 1-MAR 00:04 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: OSK UUCP (Re: Msg 85974)
|
|
From: WA2EGP To: BOISY
|
|
|
|
A bout with the flu delayed the release too. Gee...and when I posted a message
|
|
for docs on the comm-4 I asked Bob if I could list his email address since he
|
|
might get a lot of "when is gonna be released" questions. (grin) He said it
|
|
was OK but I haven't done it since there wasn't such a great response. BTW,
|
|
there were two on the grassy knoll (grin).
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85986 1-MAR 18:08 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: OSK UUCP (Re: Msg 85981)
|
|
From: ILLUSIONIST To: WA2EGP
|
|
|
|
no,no,no..there was only 1 gunman in the grassy knoll..and it was Elvis!
|
|
(grin)
|
|
-* Mike
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
86001 2-MAR 22:40 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: OSK UUCP (Re: Msg 85974)
|
|
From: VAXELF To: BOISY
|
|
|
|
Thanks, I'll start sending him email on Internet.
|
|
|
|
John D.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
86004 2-MAR 23:20 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: OSK UUCP (Re: Msg 85986)
|
|
From: WA2EGP To: ILLUSIONIST
|
|
|
|
"Thank ya...thank ya verimuch......"
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
86019 4-MAR 00:12 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: OSK UUCP (Re: Msg 85986)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: ILLUSIONIST
|
|
|
|
>>no,no,no...There was only 1 gunman in the grassy knoll..and it
|
|
was Elvis!
|
|
|
|
C'mon, Elvis was on TOUR at the time! Or, at least that's what he
|
|
SAID. :-)
|
|
>Chris<
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
86031 4-MAR 05:21 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: OSK UUCP (Re: Msg 86019)
|
|
From: JOSEFL To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
I agree. Elvis WAS on tour at the time. And there was a second gunman on the
|
|
grassy knoll.
|
|
He was there to kill the first gunman who shot Kennedy so noone would find out
|
|
what happened.
|
|
|
|
Josef L.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85980 28-FEB 23:36 General Information
|
|
RE: source of at least 1 74F653 chip (Re: Msg 85839)
|
|
From: NEALSTEWARD To: BRIANOHAGAN
|
|
|
|
Try Joe Scinta at Ken-Ton Eelectronics, Inc.
|
|
187 Greenacres Rd.
|
|
Tonawanda, NY 14150
|
|
(716)837-9168
|
|
and tell him I sent 'ya.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85987 1-MAR 22:37 Games & Graphics
|
|
new user hard drive
|
|
From: TAULBORG To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I am a new OS9 user and am running on a hard drive for the first time
|
|
under OS9 and I am having problems with a few progs!It seems that when
|
|
I have someone here that knows what they are doing I get most things
|
|
working but when I try topy progs to the hard drive on my own they
|
|
don't seem to work.Since I can't have someone hold my hand all the time
|
|
I could use some help from you guys here!I would like to put all my
|
|
OS9 stuff on my hard drive but so far I have only got stuff like
|
|
Rogue on by myself.I have KQ3 and liesure suit Larry on my hard drive
|
|
but that took someone sitting there telling me what to do!
|
|
Even though I have only a VERY BASIC knowledge of OS9 I would like to
|
|
put "Rescue on Fractalus" "Sub Battle" "Flight Sim II" and most
|
|
importantly"Multi-View" on my hard drive!I would also like to get
|
|
Color Computer Artist to work,it semms to be on there but won't run!
|
|
If you can leave me a message with EXACT instructions on how to get
|
|
ANY of these or other OS9 progs to work on my hard drive wich uses
|
|
a COCO XT by BURK&BURK interface please help all you can becuase I
|
|
REALLY NEED the help!!!!(Actually I have the COCO XT-RTC interface)
|
|
One more thing,I need to know how to get rid of the directories that
|
|
I have messed up so that I can put the good progs in thier places so
|
|
that I don't fill my hard drive with useless junk!!!!!!!
|
|
ANY help will help but please remember that I have just barely
|
|
started using OS9 and have a very limited knowledge of it.
|
|
Once I can get a few of these progs to work I will have a better
|
|
knowledge of how to get the rest of them to work!!
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85990 1-MAR 23:31 Games & Graphics
|
|
RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85987)
|
|
From: COCOKIWI To: TAULBORG (NR)
|
|
|
|
multivue is easy to put on H/D...the problem is that the "multi-vue" startup
|
|
file is coded to point to /D0......most of the problems could have been cured
|
|
by using the DEFAULT /DD rather than /D0......
|
|
you just change the /D0 to /H0.......you can do that with a utility progam
|
|
that allows one to change Bytes directly...
|
|
look for the /D0 in the TEXT side of the display,I use a utility that was around
|
|
|
|
for the old CoCo that works on the CoCo-2......Ezgen will work ok!
|
|
I use a H/D myself!But use the DISTO system......I do use HyperIO though and
|
|
have the os9 stuff!
|
|
Dennis
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85998 2-MAR 22:18 Games & Graphics
|
|
RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85987)
|
|
From: LLASHER To: TAULBORG (NR)
|
|
|
|
there are files in the data base that helps with putting things onto hard
|
|
drives. They have helped me in the past.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
86020 4-MAR 00:12 Games & Graphics
|
|
RE: new user hard drive (Re: Msg 85987)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: TAULBORG (NR)
|
|
|
|
>>(Actually I have the Coco XT-RTC interface)
|
|
|
|
Good GOOD choice on that Burke and Burke :-)
|
|
For the most part, putting OS9 programs from floppy to Hard Drive
|
|
is simple. The only problem tends to be when programs have directories
|
|
<shudder> Hardcoded into them. I think this is a problem with at least
|
|
SOME of those games. Also I think they require the vdgint
|
|
descriptor/driver<???> which might still be in your bootlist. Sorry if
|
|
this is coming at you too fast<I remember being in the same position
|
|
starting out>, but I tend to have a hard time simplyfing explanations.
|
|
While I couldn't tell you exactly how to get them programs set up,
|
|
since I am in the process of trying to do the same thing, I would
|
|
advise you to make up a seperate bootfile for games since the VDGint
|
|
Module takes up a good deal of memory, plus FTDD and some of the
|
|
others which are specific to the some of the games. Hopefully someone
|
|
can help you more than I on this, and since you reminded me of my old
|
|
project, I'll try and see what I can get myself while working a little
|
|
on it.
|
|
>Chris<
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85988 1-MAR 22:53 General Information
|
|
HYPER I/O
|
|
From: TAULBORG To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I need to get my HYPER I/O to work with my hard drive with os9.I have os9
|
|
working and I realy have a hard time at it but it works pretty good.
|
|
If anyone outthere can tell me how to use Hyper I/O and os9 on the same
|
|
hard drive I would be very greatfull!I have all the books(I Think)but can't get
|
|
the two to work together.
|
|
It would be great if I could get them both on the hard drive becuase I
|
|
love RSDOS and Hyper I/O and would love to share the hard drive
|
|
with OS9 if I can get the two to work together!If I can't get them to
|
|
work together I will be forced to choose Rsdos and Hyper I/O over OS9
|
|
and I realy don't want to have to choose between the two!!!!!
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85991 1-MAR 23:37 General Information
|
|
RE: HYPER I/O (Re: Msg 85988)
|
|
From: COCOKIWI To: TAULBORG (NR)
|
|
|
|
you format the H/Drive With Hyperio...partioning it so you can use BOTH
|
|
Basic and Os-9.....once you have LOW formated the H/D..you then format it
|
|
.THAT format setsup the os-9 side of the Drive!
|
|
OK!
|
|
the Hard drive is formated as if it is a os9 system,hyperio treats it as if
|
|
it was a RSDOS drive even though it is os9 formated,programs included in the
|
|
os9 side of the disk allow one to move files from rs to os9 or back!
|
|
Dennis
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
85992 2-MAR 08:58 General Information
|
|
forsale
|
|
From: DONALDS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
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I have the following hardware and software forsale.
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I have other software OS9 and COCO that I have not listed
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just ask I may have it.
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HARDWARE
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ST-225 20 meg harddrive 35.00
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ADAPTEC 4000 SCSI controller 35.00
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ADAPTEC 4000A SCSI controller never used 65.00
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Multi-pak 26-3124 CC3 upgraded by Tandy/new in box $60.00
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TRS-80 Touch pad Joystick 5.00
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Orchistra 90 sysnth 10.00
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Speech/Sound pak upgraded to OS9 Lvl II 10.00
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Deluxe color mouse 2 button 8.00
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90 - 360k DSDD 40tk disks 12.00
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HD63B09ep 12.00
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SOFTWARE
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Z-89 SRB Software disk 6.00
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ZAXXON by SEGA Data Soft INC cassette 32k 3.00
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SUB BATTLE Sim EPYX CC3 disk 10.00
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THEXDER SERRIA CC3 Rom pak 10.00
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Wher World Carman Broderbund CC3 disk/Almanac unopened 10.00
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Rouge EPYX CC3 disk 10.00
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King's Quest III Serria CC3 disk 10.00
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Biosphere Tandy CC3 disk 3.00
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Peguasus Tandy CC disk 3.00
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Flight Sim I/II CC disk 20.00
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Shamus Tandy CC disk 5.00
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Pit-Stop II Tandy CC disk 5.00
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Kronis Rift Tandy CC3 disk 5.00
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Raindow book of Adventures I II III w/disk or tape--\
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Rainbow book of Simmulations I II w/disk-----------\--- 8.00
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Hyper-IO for Disto 8.00
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Telewriter 64 Tape and disk 15.00
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VIP Libruary III disk 45.00
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Lyra v2.6 disk 15.00
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COCO Graphis Designer Plus/6picDisk/fonts/border 25.00
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EDTASM+ rom pak & COLOR DISK EDTASM 15.00
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Color Disk Scripsit disk 8.00
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T&D Software disk 1-97 (July '82-July '90) make offer
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Rainbow on Tape/disk /orig mag Nov 82 - last issue make offer
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OS9 PROGRAMs
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OS9 Level II /Level 1 w/ Ver 2 upgrade 25.00
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OS9 Level II Tools 5.00
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OS9 Level II Windows Disk 5.00
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SCSI-512 by B&B disk new in package for DISTO 25.00
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POWERBOOST ver2.03 15.00
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EZGEN ver1.9/1.11 15.00
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Deskmate 3 10.00
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Home Publisher w/ driver disk addons 10.00
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Start OS9 book/disk 10.00
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The Color Computer Artist 5.00
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MV Canvas 15.00
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85993 2-MAR 19:20 OSK Applications
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new VED/VPRINT
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From: JEJONES To: ALL
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I got the VED and VPRINT upgrades in the mail the other day. I'm impressed.
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The VPRINT changes are fewer than those to VED, but I'm still glad I did
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upgrade. The big change from my point of view is the switch to letting
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the user set the units for character width. Once they were 3840, the
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least common multiple of common dot/inch numbers at the time--but not what
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you want these days for 24 pin and ink-jet printers (360 dpi) or laser
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printers (300 dpi, or <rearing back to see whether I can type faster than
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I can drool at the thought :-> 600 or 1200 dpi if you have the bucks).
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Anyway...that (and realizing an oversight I made cribbing from another
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Epson init file) got me through proportional font width calculation in
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short order on my Stylus 800, and I like the results.
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Concerning VED: I must admit to being lazy about learning a new editor.
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(Studies indicate that this is a common trait: people tend to learn the
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minimum needed to get around, and doggedly stick to it.) Heck, I bought
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VED/68000 back in Atlanta in 1993, and barely fired it up. Well...the
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speed increase with the upgrade, and finally just looking over the stuff
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that VED can do, and the KVED windowing interface, have fired my enthusiasm.
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I'm going to *make* time to learn VED.
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Anyway...I can't give too thorough a review after just a few days...but
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I am impressed. My only question is: if I send in some $$$, can I get
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new manuals printed on Bob's new laser printer?
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James Jones
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Opinions herein are those of their author, and not necessarily those of
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any organization.
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*** posted w/InfoXpress 1.1 ***
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85994 2-MAR 20:05 General Information
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LEVEL ONE on CoCo2 Emulator
|
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From: JES68K To: ALL
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To all CoCo2 Emulator users:
|
|
Latest word from author of CoCo2 Emulator (via communication with Thomas
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Kocourek):
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Two bugs have been identified and fixed: one caused SHOCK Trouper to crash
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|
and the other prevented LEVEL ONE OS9 from booting up. The new release
|
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should be available soon and I hope to have it on the EMULATOR SIG (ACS BBS)
|
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ASAP. So it IS possible, folks ..... I was wrong about thinking OS9 would
|
|
never run. AND am I glad to be wrong this time! So OS9 on a PC clone
|
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system will not cost $350 if you were lucky or $999 if bought from Microware
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(OS9000 cost that is) ... OS9 Level one will be fairly cheap to implement!
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|
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|
=== Jesse ===
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86002 2-MAR 23:02 General Information
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RE: LEVEL ONE on CoCo2 Emulator (Re: Msg 85994)
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From: JMURPHY To: JES68K
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|
At LONG last... I was really starting to think I was COMPLETELY insane.
|
|
I owe you a great debt of thanks, (or maybe a beer...).
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Any idea why Triv Fever worked? It still strikes me as strange that a game
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|
written in Basic09 would function, but a simple shell wouldn't.
|
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Are details available on what the fixes are?
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I take it you've been in touch with the author...
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Pass on our thanks and congratulations !
|
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Well done.
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John Murphy
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86005 2-MAR 23:50 General Information
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RE: LEVEL ONE on CoCo2 Emulator (Re: Msg 86002)
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From: RANDYKWILSON To: JMURPHY
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The fix that affects OS9 operation was to a bug in the CWAI instruction. The
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author said it over ran the stack frame.
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Randy
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86012 3-MAR 19:19 General Information
|
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RE: LEVEL ONE on CoCo2 Emulator (Re: Msg 86002)
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From: JES68K To: JMURPHY
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|
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I will have to wait on further info on the CoCo2 Emulator myself ... what
|
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I posted is all I know at the present time. Be Patient!
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=== Jesse ===
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86032 4-MAR 05:26 General Information
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RE: LEVEL ONE on CoCo2 Emulator (Re: Msg 86012)
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From: JOSEFL To: JES68K
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Sounds Cool! This is the kind of stuff we need!
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Josef L.
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End of Thread.
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85995 2-MAR 20:48 Programmers Den
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gcc/g++ 2.? for OSK?
|
|
From: RHELLER To: ALL
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Is gcc *and* g++ version 2.x.x available from OS-9/68000? I have 1.37/1.40
|
|
and I am not sure, but it might be giving me trouble (not generating
|
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*correct* code). 99% of the time it is ok, but one library I am compiling
|
|
is crashing and I cannot figure out why.
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|
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|
Also: what is the replace node for cabrales.cs.wisc.edu?
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|
Robert
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85999 2-MAR 22:28 Programmers Den
|
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RE: gcc/g++ 2.? for OSK? (Re: Msg 85995)
|
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From: BANANAMAN To: RHELLER
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cabrales.cs.wisc.edu was changed to chestnut.cs.wisc.edu
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|
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Happy Internet-ing!
|
|
--Andy
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End of Thread.
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85996 2-MAR 21:10 General Information
|
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user help
|
|
From: NIMITZ To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Can any OSK users with HAM outfits contact Steve Lynn KA0BWS to help him out
|
|
with telenet connections or toll free delphi access?? He is also interested
|
|
in hearing from HAM users with MM/1 Ham support. THANKS!!
|
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-*-
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86008 3-MAR 02:57 General Information
|
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RE: user help (Re: Msg 85996)
|
|
From: MARTYGOODMAN To: NIMITZ
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|
|
|
We'd need to know a lot more than you tell us about KA0BWS
|
|
in order to use radio to contact him.
|
|
|
|
What frequencies does he hang out on? Without that, it
|
|
would be virtually impossible to contact him on the air.
|
|
|
|
It would be nice to hear if he has a Packet Radio address
|
|
and, if so, what that is. For that is probably the best
|
|
way for a distant ham to contact another in a reliable way...
|
|
assuming both have acess to packet.
|
|
|
|
Note that we've just today opened the Radio SIG on Delphi,
|
|
which supports Ham, SWL, scanner use, CB, Satellite TV,
|
|
and other RADIO users. I'm one of the Co-managers.
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---marty
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End of Thread.
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85997 2-MAR 21:11 General Information
|
|
AR1.2 for OS9000
|
|
From: JES68K To: ALL
|
|
|
|
To those interested in the OS9000 port of AR:
|
|
|
|
Contact has been made with the author of AR (Carl Kreider) about the
|
|
recent port to the OS9000 operating system by Thomas Kocourek ... it
|
|
seems Carl is pleased with the code used in the port and it is hoped
|
|
in the near future to have permission to release the binary only of
|
|
this port. The source code is not to be permitted available anywhere!
|
|
|
|
Will those in charge of the OS9 SIG file section, PLEASE DELETE the
|
|
source code for the AR1.2 OS9000 Port .... and retain the binary until
|
|
I have the final official approval to release it (soon I hope).
|
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|
|
=== Jesse =={xD
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-*-
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86007 3-MAR 02:09 General Information
|
|
RE: AR1.2 for OS9000 (Re: Msg 85997)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: JES68K
|
|
|
|
Will Do Jesse..
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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86006 3-MAR 00:41 General Information
|
|
QIC backup
|
|
From: RICHKOTTKE To: ALL
|
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|
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|
|
For all of you interested in the "Quarter Inch Cassette" tape drive
|
|
backup project that I am working on, here's a status report:
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|
|
|
First, the technical details: I got a big package from the QIC standards
|
|
committee a few months ago. In it, the QIC standards are fully spelled
|
|
out; the standard interface is compatible with the normal 34-pin floppy
|
|
disk interface, in a bizarre way.
|
|
|
|
Commands are sent to the tape drive on the "STEP" line of the interface
|
|
and are simply a number of pulses sent by the floppy controller. To
|
|
send command #14, you tell the floppy controller to step (in or out)
|
|
14 tracks, and it then sends out 14 pulses. This is good - it allows
|
|
the CPU to do other things while those pulses are sent.
|
|
|
|
Responses to commands come back to the floppy controller on the "TRACK00"
|
|
line, one bit at a time. To get the next bit on "TRACK00", you send
|
|
another pulse down the "STEP" line. Once again, this means that the
|
|
CPU does not have to be 100% devoted to reading the data, since the
|
|
timing is non-critical (ie the QIC drive will not send the next bit
|
|
until it is asked to).
|
|
|
|
Read and write data is sent to/from the QIC drive in EXACTLY the same
|
|
way as a floppy drive - using MFM - and on the same pins. For a CoCo,
|
|
this means you are stuck with "halt" mode while writing and reading,
|
|
and prevents the use of a simple serial interface, as someone else has
|
|
suggested. The application of a no-halt controller would be an advanced
|
|
topic.
|
|
|
|
WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW: I can't get the QIC drive to talk to the floppy
|
|
controller on my spare CoCo. A look at my old Western Digital data
|
|
book revealed one reason why: the 1773 controller can only send 6ms
|
|
step pulses, and the QIC drive is expecting 3ms pulses. The docs
|
|
from QIC suggest that this can be overcome by telling the 1773 to send a
|
|
step pulse, waiting 2.5ms and then sending the 1773 a "soft reset" that
|
|
will abort the pulse halfway. So far I can't get this to work reliably.
|
|
|
|
The other big problem is TIME. I'm working full time AND taking 12 credits
|
|
of graduate courses at night. I spend most of my weekend time studying
|
|
and basically have no time left after classes weeknights.
|
|
|
|
BUT I haven't given up. I'll keep trying, and keep you all posted if I
|
|
have any sudden breakthroughs.
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|
|
-Rich
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| The average gestation period of the white- | RICHKOTTKE@delphi.com |
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86014 3-MAR 20:09 General Information
|
|
RE: QIC backup (Re: Msg 86006)
|
|
From: STEWARD To: RICHKOTTKE
|
|
|
|
Do you happen to know if the coco controllers with a 1793 can send out the
|
|
3ms pulse? I have an older controller with the 1793 that I modified to work
|
|
with 1.2/1.44 meg floppies.
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
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-*-
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86021 4-MAR 00:30 General Information
|
|
RE: QIC backup (Re: Msg 86014)
|
|
From: RICHKOTTKE To: STEWARD
|
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|
|
Only if the modification included replacing the 4 MHz crystal with an
|
|
8 MHz one (so that the 1793 was running at 2 MHz). I have another
|
|
controller with a 1793 that might be modifiable - where did you
|
|
get the data for the mod?
|
|
|
|
-Rich
|
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-*-
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|
|
86033 4-MAR 18:54 General Information
|
|
RE: QIC backup (Re: Msg 86021)
|
|
From: STEWARD To: RICHKOTTKE (NR)
|
|
|
|
If memory serves me right, it dosn't replace the x-tal, but it does re-wire
|
|
some of the outputs so the 1793 is clocked at 4 mhz. The modification is
|
|
located in the general downloads section.
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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86009 3-MAR 02:58 General Information
|
|
Jameco returns to its roots
|
|
From: MARTYGOODMAN To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Flash! Jameco Electronic Components has CHANGED its policy regarding
|
|
minimum orders! For the last several years, Jameco had drifted toward
|
|
being a high price PC-compatible vendor, and had pointedly turned its
|
|
back on designers and tinkerers by establishing first a $25 and then a
|
|
$50 minimum order policy. This represented a major change from its
|
|
origins, for the founder was a "surplus junk dealer" in the grandest and
|
|
most honorable of traditions. Over these last few years, the owner was,
|
|
due to personal matters, not able to play an active part in the
|
|
business, and word has it that the "computer geeks" there in their three
|
|
piece suits took things over. However, the PC compatible business is
|
|
FIERCELY competitive, and profit margins were slim, and that part of the
|
|
business ended up not not making nearly as much profit as the suits had
|
|
anticipated. The owner, recently free to devote more attention to the
|
|
business, has moved its orientation BACK to being an Electronic
|
|
Component supplier. Orders from wholesale surplus vendors for batches
|
|
of parts, which had ceased over the last few years, have started up
|
|
again, according to my inside sources (one of whom IS such a vendor).
|
|
Orders of ANY SIZE are now welcome, tho a (most reasonable!) $5.00
|
|
handling fee will be charged for orders under $25.00. Jameco is now
|
|
printing SEPARATE catalogs, one for PC compatible pieces, and another
|
|
for components and suplus material and kits. So... if you are a
|
|
tinkerer who turned your back on Jameco when they turned their back on
|
|
you, give it another look! That's:
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|
|
Jameco Electronic Components
|
|
|
|
1-800-831-4242 toll free order number
|
|
|
|
1-800-237-6948 toll free FAX number
|
|
|
|
1-415-637-9025 BBS number
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|
|
1355 Shoreway Road
|
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Belmont, CA 94002
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|
---marty
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86034 4-MAR 20:52 General Information
|
|
RE: Jameco returns to its roots (Re: Msg 86009)
|
|
From: DWHILL To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
|
|
|
|
Now if only Heath would go back to selling their once-famous kits... Ah, the
|
|
good old days of hot rosin, burned fingers and sleepless nights.
|
|
|
|
Time to drop Jameco a post card.
|
|
|
|
--Damon
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End of Thread.
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86011 3-MAR 08:10 Programmers Den
|
|
Latest C stuff
|
|
From: BILLGRESENS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Is there a file somewhere that shows the latest developments to the MW C
|
|
compiler for the CoCo 2? There are quite a few files in the prog. den
|
|
that look like upgrades but I only wanat the latest. I know I'm being a pain
|
|
but it's been a long time since I've hung around here.
|
|
|
|
Thanx,
|
|
|
|
Bill.
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|
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86017 3-MAR 22:35 Programmers Den
|
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RE: Latest C stuff (Re: Msg 86011)
|
|
From: WDTV5 To: BILLGRESENS
|
|
|
|
I don't think so. Theres a help file on making it work on other than its
|
|
hard coded default drives tho, been there several years. Some work has been
|
|
done on ansifieying it (ANSIfying) can't spell either. And some work has
|
|
been done on the preprocessor. The latest version there is my upload of a
|
|
bug-fixed and slightly expanded c_prep19.lzh, and Vaugn Cato's Ansifront to
|
|
help it process files with genuine ANSI specs in the source. 0.9 is the
|
|
last version of ansifront. Ansifront's automatic usage is by way of the
|
|
last version of "cc" whose source and object is (i think) under "cc_2_5_0"
|
|
plus whatever archive method was used. With those 3 items tuned up and
|
|
running on your system, writing C code isn't nearly as black an art as
|
|
it was 10 years ago. The error mesasages output ny both c_prep19 and
|
|
ansifront are quite explicit, making it a lot easier to fix your code.
|
|
Cheers, Gene Heskett, WDTV5@delphi.com
|
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86022 4-MAR 03:23 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: Latest C stuff (Re: Msg 86011)
|
|
From: ZOGSTER To: BILLGRESENS
|
|
|
|
> Is there a file somewhere that shows the latest developments to the MW C
|
|
> compiler for the CoCo 2? There are quite a few files in the prog. den
|
|
> that look like upgrades but I only wanat the latest. I know I'm being a
|
|
> pain but it's been a long time since I've hung around here.
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|
|
|
I wrote an article in the OS-9 Underground last year called C for
|
|
Beginners (published in the double issue 4/5 of Vol. 1). First you
|
|
should get a replacement for the module cc1. I hope you are running
|
|
the C compiler under OS-9 Level 2 on a CoCo 3, since level 1 is very
|
|
limited on memory. Anyway the replacement front end that I use is
|
|
called CC and the latest version (2.5.0) is available on Delphi.
|
|
Also if you are interested in Standard ANSI C you should also download
|
|
Ansifront. Then you should also get the Kreider library, and if
|
|
you plan to use gfx then get Mike Sweet's CGFX library also. All
|
|
available on Delphi. There's also many utility programs that aid
|
|
the programmer and a moused based GUI if you are interested (CoCo 3
|
|
OS-9 Level 2).
|
|
|
|
Good luck!
|
|
|
|
Jim
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| Compuserve: 74044,3324 | Delphi: Zogster Subj:"To Jim"
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(916) 743-2617 Voice: (916) 743-4264:1 Corinthians 1:18 & Romans 1:16
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Assistant editor of The International OS-9 Underground,
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"Magazine dedicated to OS-9/OSK Users Everywhere"
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86023 4-MAR 04:22 OSK Applications
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Cheap OSK Systems in disguise
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From: JOSEFL To: ALL
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Is anybody on this SIG into CDi? It seems to me that CDi could be a source
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of really high powered OS-9 systems for very little money if some hardware
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types would put together a board that has a SCSI interface and a few serial
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ports. Bundle it with a keyboard and a CD ewith a truckload of commands and
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we could all have killer systems for well under $1000. Anybody interested?
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I'm willing to provide system level help in the form of design guidance. I
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can't spend a lot of time myself but I could go a long ways in pointing someone
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in the right direction. We could probably even cobble together a CDi disk that
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worked as a CoCo emulator. C'mon folks! How about OS-9: The Next Generation!?!
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Turn these hackers loose in a flat address space!
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Josef L.
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P.S. There will probably be 683xx based systems coming from somebody in the
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next year or so. Anybody wishing they could do more work with OS-9, this is
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a good time to jump.
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86036 4-MAR 22:29 OSK Applications
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RE: Cheap OSK Systems in disguise (Re: Msg 86023)
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From: JEJONES To: JOSEFL
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> Is anybody on this SIG into CDi? It seems to me that CDi could be a
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> source of really high powered OS-9 systems for very little money if some
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> hardware types would put together a board that has a SCSI interface and a
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> few serial ports.
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Yo, Josef! Frank Hogg (FHOGG) was making noises of that sort here on Delphi
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a while back; perhaps he'll respond to your message.
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James
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*** posted w/InfoXpress 1.1 ***
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End of Thread.
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86024 4-MAR 04:29 General Information
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RE: AR (Re: Msg 85644)
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From: JOSEFL To: JES68K
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We OS-9000 hackers could use more of ANYTHING. It's tough getting applications
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when nobody's writing them. It should be fairly easy to port to. I work with
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it all the time. Heck, I even WROTE some of it. It works mostly like OS-9.
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Come on, developers! There are possibilities out here that won't open up
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until the stuff becomes available. Some stuff will work if you just recompile
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it! - Josef L. -
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86025 4-MAR 04:35 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85784)
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From: JOSEFL To: DAVGEORGE (NR)
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FYI (char *)0 is a good way to get a pointer to the vector table for some
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serious exception hacking on most 68xxx based OS-9 systems. However, it is
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also a very good way to crash your system if you don't know what you're poking
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at. Dig around for fun an...<System Reset>
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86028 4-MAR 04:47 General Information
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RE: OS-9 3.0/MM1A (Re: Msg 85686)
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From: JOSEFL To: BOISY
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Cool! Nice to see somebody moving into the future. I'm doing 3.0 ports
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myself these days for mbfflpyprbgf. Oops! Even ex-Microware employees
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gotta watch their mouths. Lots of proprietary info flyin' around these days.
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Go CDi!!
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Josef L.
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86030 4-MAR 05:16 General Information
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RE: CDI for sale (Re: Msg 85948)
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From: JOSEFL To: KEITHBAUER
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Which model CD-I player is it?
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Josef L.
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86044 5-MAR 06:44 General Information
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RE: CDI for sale (Re: Msg 86030)
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From: KEITHBAUER To: JOSEFL (NR)
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> Which model CD-I player is it?
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It is the 910 model.
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Keith Bauer
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CIS:71102,317 Delphi:keithbauer Internet:kbauer@pids.com
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Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01 How 'bout them Cowboys!
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86035 4-MAR 22:13 Telecom (6809)
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Supercomm patches
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From: BILLGRESENS To: ALL
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I can't get rz and sz to work very well w/Supercomm. I have the clock patch
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but that's it. The docs mentioned some other patches but didn't say what
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they were. Can someone fill me in?
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Thanx
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86039 5-MAR 00:37 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Supercomm patches (Re: Msg 86035)
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From: MITHELEN To: BILLGRESENS
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You also probably weant to use the SAcia RS-232 driver... If you
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do not have a Hard Disk, you will want to do your downloads to
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a ramdisk.
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86037 5-MAR 00:01 Programmers Den
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More stupid questions
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From: BILLGRESENS To: ALL
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I hate to keep bugging y'all (southern drawl) but, I get a CRC fail when
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trying to use LZH to dearchive C_Prep 1.9. I do not get that error when
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dearchiving C_Prep 1.8. I had the same problem w/something else but since
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there was an ar version, I picked it up and forgot about it.
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I am running a 512k CoCo 3.
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Thanx,
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Bill.
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86040 5-MAR 00:58 Programmers Den
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RE: More stupid questions (Re: Msg 86037)
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From: ADITNAVEL To: BILLGRESENS
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Lzh will only dearchive certain types of LZH files (type 1 I think). If you get
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a CRC error problably means it was archived with LZH using a different
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format, so to speak. So to get at these kinds of files use unlzh or, better
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yet, get lha2XX or whatever the current version is. Lha allows you to dearchive
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ju st about any LZH archive, and archive in
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the differnt
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86038 5-MAR 00:23 Programmers Den
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I promise, this is the last question! <G
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From: BILLGRESENS To: ALL
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I remember an article in a Rainbow about a Fortran compiler for the CoCo.
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Is this, or another, still available and what's the approximate price and
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who is distributing it, etc., etc.
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Thanx again,
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Bill.
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86041 5-MAR 01:07 Programmers Den
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RE: I promise, this is the last question (Re: Msg 86038)
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From: ADITNAVEL To: BILLGRESENS (NR)
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Hmmm, I think I mucked up my original answer, so here goes again. LZH uses
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different "types" or compression schemes. There are types 1 thru 5 I think.
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Each gives more compression I believe, but takes longer to archive, etc. The
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program LZH by Matt Thompson, I believe, is a great program but it can't
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dear chive all types of LZH files. Unlzh dearchives a few more types, but I
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believe LHA211(ver?) is the most comprehensive and biggest. Lha also archives
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files in varying LZH types.
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if you get a CRC eror with Matt Thompson's LZH try using unlzh and if that
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doesn't work, trying using LHA. LHA will even try to repair corrupted archives.
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I hope that answers your question. Get the LHA archive here on delphi. It has
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a good doc file thata explains alot about lha/lzh, etc..
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See Ya!
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86042 5-MAR 01:09 General Information
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MM/1A!
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From: BOISY To: ALL
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Hi All:
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I received my MM/1A today and it works great. However, I've noticed
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a problem when I'm on Delphi and logging on at 9600 baud. It seems
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when there's a fair amount of text scrolling, tiny dots are found
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scattered on my screen. Has anyone seen this and can tell me how to
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fix it? It appears as though the scrolling is interrupted and a draw is
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halfway done. Really wierd.
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86045 5-MAR 07:40 General Information
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RE: MM/1A! (Re: Msg 86042)
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From: JOHNBAER To: BOISY
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Boisy,
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> I received my MM/1A today and it works great. However, I've noticed
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> a problem when I'm on Delphi and logging on at 9600 baud. It seems
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> when there's a fair amount of text scrolling, tiny dots are found
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> scattered on my screen.
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Did you try bumping up the procs a little ? ^140 just might give
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you a little more time. That's what I dd with InfoXpress. But, I don't
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have a MM/1A yet :) I was getting some junk in there so, I used the
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140 and that took care of it. This is with 9600 to any system I called
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too.
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John -
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johnbaer@delphi.com jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us
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* IX 1.01 * "Clipper Chip - Big Brother Inside !"
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86043 5-MAR 01:22 General Information
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PBJ 2SP-Pak
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From: ILLUSIONIST To: ALL
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Hi all, I need some help here, I have a PBJ 2SP-Pak (its a board with
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2 4-pin DIN's driven by 2 6551's) The docs say the board CANT be used with
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an MPI, and the drivers that come with it are for OS-9 Level 1 1.1 (ugh)
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Ok, so my questions are A) Can this pak be made to work with the MPI
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(if so, how? Strap the MPI?) B) If the Level 1 drivers dont work, could I
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use SACIA?
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The following is a description of WHY the Mpi cant be used:
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(from the docs)
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You cannot use the interrupt driven driver because the MPI's slot selection
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logic supplies the CART signal to only one slot at a time. Since the disk
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controller uses cartridge must occupy the selected slot while running
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OS-9, interrupts from the 2SP-Pak will not be recognized.
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...now, I have not even tried the interrupt driven drivers, I just tried
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the "normal" driver to try and sendto my printer, nothing, not even
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garbage, the entire system locks up, although I am able to switch windows
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Any help is appreciated..thanks.
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