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#: 20414 S1/General Interest
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28-Sep-94 19:49:23
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Sb: #19940-OS-9 Jobs Available
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Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
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To: Hector L. Alicea 73051,3541
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HECTOR,
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I am currently working for a FUJI America Corp. as a software engineer
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specializing in OS-9 control systems. My principle duties are in the area of
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system integration ie:UDP;TCP/IP;Machine Control. I have written a bit of code
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for setting up sockets, device drivers etc. however I do not consider myself a
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"GURU" of OS-9.
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I would be interested in obtaining more information on the position you
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mentioned if you have not filled it yet. Thank you for your time and I hope to
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be hearing from you soon.
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Rob Hilligoss
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#: 20367 S1/General Interest
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13-Sep-94 21:31:03
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Sb: #Windows95
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Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
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To: All
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For your enlightened entertainment,
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When I spotted this I had to read it 3 times before I beleaved it.
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I read the following in the September 12th 1994 issue of Infoworld on
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page 10. The title of the piece is: "It's official: Chicago will be
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called Windows95" The article describes why Microsoft decided on the
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name Windows95 rather than Windows 4.0 because...
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"According to Microsoft, users had difficulty understanding which
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version of Windows, 3.0, 3.1, or 3.11 was the latest."
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Explains a lot doesn't it.
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However we must ask the question. Which came first?
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Do stupid people buy Windows or does using Windows make people stupid?
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I'll let you decide.
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Frank Hogg
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#: 20373 S1/General Interest
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15-Sep-94 00:05:32
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Sb: #20367-#Windows95
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Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
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To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X)
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Gosh, Frank, I use Windows for seven or eight hours a day at work, and Mensa
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doesn't think I'm stupid yet! Mind you, maybe using OS9 at home is an antidote
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of sorts. Actually, I like Windows' point-and-shoot launcher, but it is
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miserable at actually running things, and its multitasking is a poor joke. And
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talk about slow!
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But which one is the latest? Gee, does it matter? They ALL crash with amazing
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regularity.
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Oh, it was MY decision to buy Windows at work, for the simple reason that all
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the sophisticated software works only with Windows, and we have some 45
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MSDOS/Windows computers in our office; kinda hard to be odd man out!
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#: 20376 S1/General Interest
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15-Sep-94 22:20:50
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Sb: #20373-#Windows95
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Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
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To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)
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>But which one is the latest? Gee, does it matter?
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What amazed me was that Microsoft had to change the name because their users
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couldn't do simple math. I'm still shaking my head about that.
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#: 20378 S1/General Interest
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16-Sep-94 19:38:32
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Sb: #20376-#Windows95
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X)
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If the new windows is version 95...then what confusion will there be 5 years
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from now when they bring out version 00. Hmmmmm.
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#: 20382 S1/General Interest
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18-Sep-94 05:34:52
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Sb: #20378-Windows95
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Fm: Ken Flanagan 75460,2514
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Easy. After weeks of meetings, Mr. Gates will get a brainstorm. Windows2000!
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Boy, oh boy, what a genius they have running MicroSoft. ;)
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#: 20387 S1/General Interest
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20-Sep-94 14:49:45
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Sb: #PowerPC Support
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Fm: Emmelmann 73064,3255
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To: All
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Will OS9 in future run on PowerPC processors ?
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Who knows more.
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Thanks in advance, Klaus.
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#: 20412 S1/General Interest
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28-Sep-94 17:46:49
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Sb: #20387-PowerPC Support
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Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417
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To: Emmelmann 73064,3255
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Hello Klaus
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A version of OS-9 called OS9000(known as portable OS-9) will run on PowerPC on
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what they call PREP-hardware(Powerpc REference Platform)
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Timeframe is 2-3 months from now.
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regards ole@danelec.dk
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#: 20391 S1/General Interest
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22-Sep-94 08:51:25
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Sb: #Hello Again
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: All
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Hi All!
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I'm back on CIS again after a couple months. Just lurking and keeping in
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touch. I no longer have any OS-9 or OSK equipment. Actually, I have no
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computer equipment at all at home.
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See ya!
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Mark
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 20394 S1/General Interest
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24-Sep-94 11:50:14
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Sb: #20391-Hello Again
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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> I'm back on CIS again after a couple months. Just lurking and keeping in
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> touch. I no longer have any OS-9 or OSK equipment.
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Good to hear from you, Mark. Do keep in touch. I'm sure everyone would miss
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your presence.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20407 S1/General Interest
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27-Sep-94 21:53:37
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Sb: #20391-#Hello Again
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Fm: Howard Luckey 74746,3207
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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> Hi All!
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>
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> I'm back on CIS again after a couple months. Just lurking and keeping in
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> touch. I no longer have any OS-9 or OSK equipment. Actually, I have no
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> computer equipment at all at home.
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>
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> See ya!
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>
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> Mark
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Hi, Mark.
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I am glad to hear from you again.
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Howard
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Howard Luckey
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delphi LUCKYONE
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CIS 74746,3207
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Hold an OS-9 conference and they will come.
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********** By InfoXpress 1.01 **********
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#: 20408 S1/General Interest
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28-Sep-94 08:49:33
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Sb: #20407-Hello Again
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Howard Luckey 74746,3207
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HOward,
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Thanks! Didn't know you had a CIS account. Great!
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Mark
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#: 20426 S1/General Interest
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29-Sep-94 22:38:15
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Sb: HELP OS-9
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Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Thanks for the suggestion I am going to try it.
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thanks again
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rob
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#: 20425 S1/General Interest
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29-Sep-94 22:37:26
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Sb: HELP OS-9
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Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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Thanks for the hint I will post it tonite!
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thanks again
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rob
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#: 20415 S1/General Interest
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28-Sep-94 20:12:40
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Sb: #Image Processing
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Fm: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
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To: all
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Special notice to all who plan on attending the upcoming CoCoFest in Atlanta!!!
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I will be offering a new service at my booth. Do you have a photograph that you
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always wanted to view on your computer? I will have my flatbed color scanner
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set up and will scan any photo of anything and save it on a floppy for you in
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whatever format and resolution you wish. Supported file formats are TIFF
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(uncompressed or LZH compressed), GIF, JPEG, or BMP. TIFF, BMP and JPEG can be
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24-bit color or 256 colors. GIF can only be in 256 colors.
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Zack C Sessions
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If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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#: 20419 S1/General Interest
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29-Sep-94 08:56:23
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Sb: #20415-#Image Processing
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555 (X)
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Zack,
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Cool! You have this all running on an OS-9 machine?
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Mark
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#: 20422 S1/General Interest
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29-Sep-94 18:51:05
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Sb: #20419-#Image Processing
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Fm: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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> Cool! You have this all running on an OS-9 machine?
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Umm, you are joking, aren't you?
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No way is this running on an OS-9 machine, espcially anything near capable of
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providing profiesional looking scans. I'll be using it on my IBM486SLC2/66 and
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Micrografx Picture Publisher V4.0.
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Zack C Sessions
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If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.
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#: 20428 S1/General Interest
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30-Sep-94 08:54:01
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Sb: #20422-Image Processing
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
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Zack,
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I didn't think it was running under OS-9. Why post it here then? Perhaps you
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should be telling the people on the IBM forums. Then again, maybe this is
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inappropriate for an OS-9 show, don't you think?
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Mark
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(Does the scenery ever change around you?)
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#: 20424 S1/General Interest
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29-Sep-94 22:26:03
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Sb: InfoXpress
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: All
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Effective immediately there is a new distributor for InfoXpress, Wittman
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Computer Products, operated by Bill Wittman.
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WCP will be at the Atlanta fest this weekend (10/1-10/2) and I will be demoing
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InfoXpress at their booth.
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Other products that WCP offers are, for OSK K-Windows, DeskTamer and
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LaTerm/LaDial, and an OSK Point-of-Sale package, as well as MM/1 and other
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68xxx hardware. Watch for their new ad in the OS-9 Underground Magazine.
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For ordering information, you can contact me in email, or you can contact
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Wittman Computer Products directly at (716) 494-1506 [EST].
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-Bill-
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Bill Dickhaus Internet: dickhaus@mdcc.edu (work)
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CIS: 70325,523 70325.523@compuserve.com
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Delphi: BILLDICKHAUS BILLDICKHAUS@delphi.com
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#: 20417 S3/Languages
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28-Sep-94 20:41:37
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Sb: #20318-GNU C compiler
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Fm: Bruno Nilsson 76407,600
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Thank you very much for the information Bill. I will try it right away.
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Bruno Nilsson
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#: 20362 S5/OS9 Users Group
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12-Sep-94 23:02:49
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Sb: #20354-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)
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> I'll check out my disks first thing tomorrow... The disks are original
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> disks from Radio Shack - one says System Resources and I think the other
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> one says Boot Disk - but can't be sure till I check them out..
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Hmm.. Looking over my original Disks, You MAY have ver 1.01, which will not
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boot on the coco3. My Ver 1.01 disks say "OS-9 BOOT", and "OS-9 System
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Master". The cat # is 26-3030. However, you can get the original Level 1
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assembler off this if you are into assembly language. If you do, indeed, have
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this non-bootable Version, and don't have a bootable version, I'm sure someone
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has a spare copy of Level 2 that they will don't need and will let you have
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very reasonably.
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> Will this thing only use Radio Shack drives? Or can an old IBM external
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> drive be used?
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You can use about any type drive up through Double Density. If you plan on
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doing much with it and don't go to a hard drive, I'd suggest installing at
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least one 720K disk. The controller will not support High-Density disks,
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however, you can use a 1.44 drive and use the 720-K disks, but can't use the
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1.44-K disks. The computer will support up to 3 double-sided disks. Oh, BTW,
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is the Drive controller Radio Shack or third-party?
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20375 S5/OS9 Users Group
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15-Sep-94 05:35:49
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Sb: #20362-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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Yep, solved the problem - found version 2.00 - it boots fine now... Thanks for
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the help...
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I have all kinds of disk drives (3 inch! - not 3 1/2) but only have one
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controller (radio Shack) - does Radio Shack still sell the cables to let you
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hook disk drives together? I get I/O errors all the time with the 5 1/4...
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Does that mean there might be problems with the drive, or is it just my
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stupidity???? :-)
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#: 20377 S5/OS9 Users Group
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16-Sep-94 06:37:51
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Sb: #20375-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)
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Chances are that its the drive, or the disks. I recently went through a box of
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old 5 1/4 disks and could only get about half of them to even read, and the
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ones that worked got lots of I/O errors. If its one of the older Tandy drives,
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its also quite possible its out of alignment.
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-Bill-
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#: 20380 S5/OS9 Users Group
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17-Sep-94 12:35:00
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Sb: #20375-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)
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> I have all kinds of disk drives (3 inch! - not 3 1/2) but only have one
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> controller (radio Shack) - does Radio Shack still sell the cables to let
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Not sure about 3" drives.. I'm not really up on exactly what is what on the
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various drives. Hopefully, someone here can enlighten you better than I.
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Re: cables. you Might be able to special order them but, if you want to do a
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lot with OS/9, you would be better off to set it up for double sided drives, it
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will give you more capacity (Well.. of course it would <G> ). I'm not sure, if
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the drives are RS, they are probably actually double-sided, but the cable is
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wired goofy so it will work 4 single-sided drives.. I believe you have to
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modify the power supply board, I'm not sure, and the cables are easy to make..
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all you need is a 34-wire flat cable, a standard 34-wire edge card connector
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for the controller end, and the same for the 5 1/4 drives. The 3 1/2 drives
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require a different connector (not sure about the 3's). However, all the 3
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1/2's I've fooled with have #1 pin on opposite side than the 5 1/4's, so for
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these, if you make up the cable, have them facing the opposite side than the
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connectors for the 5 14's and then twist the cable. Oh, most coco cables don't
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have the twisted pair found in the PC cables.
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> you hook disk drives together? I get I/O errors all the time with the 5
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> 1/4... Does that mean there might be problems with the drive, or is it
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> just my stupidity???? :-)
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I doubt it's you.. It could be the connections are dirty on the controller,
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some cleaning might help.. Also, the drive COULD be slightly out of alignment.
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Do you have 2 drives or 1? If 2, are errors on both drives?
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20396 S5/OS9 Users Group
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24-Sep-94 17:06:28
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Sb: #20380-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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Another one of those skills I'm going to learn and never knew I could -
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building cables! Why not - could come in handy someday... I've saved your
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message - I may need it.....
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Time to clean the drives.... I have 2 3 inch drives (# 0 and 1) OR I have one 5
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1/4 - but not at the same time... I have to unplug one to use the other
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one.......
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Jean
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#: 20401 S5/OS9 Users Group
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25-Sep-94 18:53:43
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Sb: #20396-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
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> Another one of those skills I'm going to learn and never knew I could -
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> building cables!
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> Time to clean the drives.... I have 2 3 inch drives (# 0 and 1) OR I have
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> one 5 1/4 - but not at the same time... I have to unplug one to use the
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> other one.......
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Will your case hold 2 or more drives? If so, all you might need to do is add
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another connector for the additional drive(s). Then add the descriptor "d1" to
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your bootfile. What's the capacity of the 3" drives? You can have up to 3
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double sided drives or 4 single sided drives in the system (you can get more,
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but it's a little complicated).
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Oh, to get double-sided operation, if the cable is Radio Shack, you might have
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to do more.. not familiar w/ RS cables, but it seems they might be connected a
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little squirrely.. not sure.. never fooled with the RS versions myself.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20405 S5/OS9 Users Group
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26-Sep-94 20:24:54
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Sb: #20401-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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Just thought I should add that if you are using a Amdeck Disk Drive (if memory
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serves...) then these are a single sided drive using a 3" disk. However, the
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disks are flippies. Don't know if cable hacking would hurt with these, but
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please remember that they are single sided drives.
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#: 20361 S5/OS9 Users Group
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12-Sep-94 23:01:31
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Sb: #20355-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)
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> Thanks for the reply... Glad to hear that some of the disks might work
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> without OS/9... Maybe sticking in the Deft Pascal and staring at it for a
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> while will let me regain some confidence!
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To check for the non-OS/9 disks, under RS-DOS (what you start up in), insert
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them individually and do a "dir" on them... if text shows up, they are DISK
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BASIC disks and you can run them without OS/9. Do you have docs for any of
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them?
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> No, I never get to the error stage of my OS/9 boot up... Even an error
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> would be more satisfying (in a strange kind of way)...
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> Unfortunately with this one EVERYTHING could be a problem since its all
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> new to me....
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Well, unless the disk is glitched, it should boot (although it doesn't). Since
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it was with the CoCo 3, it SHOULD be either Level 1, Version2, or Level 2, but,
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just in case, if you know someone who has a coco 2, you might try to boot on
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it. If it is level 2, it won't boot on the coco 2, but if it does boot and
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says "Version 2" (of either level), then it is incompatible with the coco3. Do
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you have the games Flight Simulator 2, King's Quest, Rogue, koronis Rift, or
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anything that says it's for the coco 3? Any of these operate under OS/9.. On
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some of these, you can exit to the DOS, and then you might be able to do dir's
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on some of the disks you have in question. (Not the RS-DOS disks, I mean the
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OS/9 disks)... One catch, all Standard disks are single-sided, and as supplied,
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don't support double-sided disks, and the disks in question might be
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double-sided.. Double-sided disks will boot, but the disks that come from
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Radio Shack are not set up to support the double-sided disks.
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However, you might look through your disks and look for another boot disk.
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> But, I've never been one to give up.....I had a Beta VCR for
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> years after they virtually disappeared from the face of the earth too :-)
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OK, you've got me convinced <G>
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20363 S5/OS9 Users Group
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12-Sep-94 23:16:20
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Sb: #20361-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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> might try to boot on it. If it is level 2, it won't boot on the coco 2,
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> but if it does boot and says "Version 2" (of either level), then it is
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^^^^^^^^ Darn... can't keep a thought straight... That
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SHOULD have been
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"DOESN'T SAY"
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> incompatible with the coco3.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20374 S5/OS9 Users Group
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15-Sep-94 05:35:42
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Sb: #20361-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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Good news... looking through the millions of disks that came with this computer
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I realized that the version of OS/9 I was trying to get to work was version
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1.00.... I then managaed to find Version 2.00... put it in and it workds like a
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charm - well - if I knew how to use it - it would!
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Next step - read the millions of manuals that came with this stuff and actually
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DO something with this stuff...
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Thanks again for the help...
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20379 S5/OS9 Users Group
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17-Sep-94 12:33:17
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Sb: #20374-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)
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> Good news... looking through the millions of disks that came with this
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> computer I realized that the version of OS/9 I was trying to get to work
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> was version 1.00.... I then managaed to find Version 2.00... put it in and
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> it workds like a charm - well - if I knew how to use it - it would!
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Good.. I was almost certain this was the case.. Now, is your working version
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Level 1, Version 2? If so, and you want to do some neat stuff, see if you
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have, Level 2.. If not, try to get a copy.. post here.. someone is sure to have
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a spare copy they'll let you have cheap or nearly so. It's far better,
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windowing capability, 80-col screen etc (do you have a monitor?)
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> Next step - read the millions of manuals that came with this stuff and
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> actually DO something with this stuff...
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If you are into playing with computers, you'll be truly amazed at what this
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little computer can do.
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I believe you'll be thrilled...
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> Thanks again for the help...
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If I did help, I was glad to do so. Any more questions... let us know.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
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Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20395 S5/OS9 Users Group
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24-Sep-94 17:06:23
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Sb: #20379-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
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To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
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Gee, every time I think I'm getting the hang of this computer a little bit -
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you guys ask me another question! I'm not sure what Level the OS/9 disks
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are... HOw do you figure that out? There's a sticker on the disks that says
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"2.00", but nothing else....
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I was reading through one of the CoCo magazines that came with this and it
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talked about all the great things that level 2 could do... sure seemed ahead of
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its time...
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The monitor I'm using is one from an Amiga in the school that's been sitting
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around for more than a week - we kind of have a "use it or lose it" policy -
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luckily for me...
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I have a really silly question about os/9 - how do you get programs to run with
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it... I have this huge book on OS/9 - it talks about all the great things it
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can do, but I can't find out how after it's running I can stick in a disk that
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runs under OS/9 and just run it (or load it, or EXEC it...) Maybe I'm just
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overwhelmed and will figure it out eventually....
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Jean
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#: 20399 S5/OS9 Users Group
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25-Sep-94 11:33:48
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Sb: #20395-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)
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Jean -
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Simple - all you do is type the name of the program, and it will be loaded from
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disk and executed.
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There are some assumptions made:
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a) That the program is indeed executable code
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b) That the program is on the disk, and in the execution directory
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(usually /dd/cmds or /d0/cmds)
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If you need to change disks to run your program, you need to help os9 find the
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execution directory on the new disk. Your best bet here is to type the
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following:
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chx /d0/cmds (or /dd/cmds)
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chd /d0 (or /dd)
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{program_name}
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That should do it!
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Pete Lyall
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#: 20400 S5/OS9 Users Group
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25-Sep-94 18:52:45
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Sb: #20395-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
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> Gee, every time I think I'm getting the hang of this computer a little bit -
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> you guys ask me another question! I'm not sure what Level the OS/9 disks
|
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> are... HOw do you figure that out?
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When you boot up, you should see a logo at the top of the screen. If it is
|
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Level 2, it will say so.. There will also be a version #, but look for the
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"Level #". If you have your docs, they will be in a loose-leaf binder. Also,
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you can issue the command "mdir" and look for certain names.. Level 1 will have
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a name "SysGo" there, Level 2 will have "CC3Go".
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With Level 2, you will be able to access numerous windows, You will have to
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start them up yourself (the docs should tell you how). You can switch between
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them using the "CLEAR" key. Then you can start up numerous programs and have
|
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them executing at the same time. If you have "Flight Simulator" going in one
|
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window, you can switch to another window and if you don't pause the program,
|
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the plane may have crashed, because it will still be going, even though it is
|
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not displayed. If you want to print out a file to the printer, you can issue
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the command "list {filename} >/p" and go to another window and do something
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else. (You can add "&" to the end of the above line and stay in that window
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and the printout will proceed, and you can do something else in that window.
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This will work with Level 1.
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> I was reading through one of the CoCo magazines that came with this and
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> it talked about all the great things that level 2 could do... sure seemed
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> ahead of its time...
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Yes, it was. It is still pretty up to date, except for the speed on some
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tasks, and memory can sometimes be a little tricky for programmers.
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> I have a really silly question about os/9 - how do you get programs to run
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> with it... I have this huge book on OS/9 - it talks about all the great
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> things it can do, but I can't find out how after it's running I can stick
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> in a disk that runs under OS/9 and just run it
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Pete Lyall did a good job in answering this question. To recap... OS9
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"remembers" 2 directories.. an "execution" directory and a "data" directory.
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If you issue the command "dir", OS9 first checks to see if the module (program)
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named "dir" is in memory. If not, it looks at the current "exec" directory to
|
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see if a file by that name exists (the filename does not HAVE to be the same as
|
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the module name, you COULD have a module named "cls" that will clear the
|
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screen. But, in this case if it is stored in the "exec" dir under the name
|
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"dir" (and "dir" is not in memory), then it will load that file, and clear the
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screen.
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Lastly, if the file is not found in the execution directory, it will look in
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the current "data" directory for a procedure file (same as "batch" file under
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MS-Dos), and execute it if found.
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You can also specify a specific full pathname for a command. Suppose you have
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2 drives (second drive is "d1"). There is a directory named "FOO" and say, in
|
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that directory, there is a directory "FOO2", and in that directory, a program
|
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(of either type) named "fooey". You could, without doing a "chx", simply enter
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"/d1/FOO/FOO2/fooey" and it will be found.
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The best way to get the feel of it is to play with the "dir" command on various
|
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disks. One other thing.. filenames are not case-sensitive, but one standard
|
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convention, although not required, is to have directory names in all upper-case
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and filenames in lowercase.
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Sorry to be so windy... just thought this might help. Be sure you understand
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Pete's msg.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051
|
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Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
|
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*** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
|
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^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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#: 20427 S5/OS9 Users Group
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29-Sep-94 22:57:57
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Sb: #HELP! OS-9 TAPE C CODE
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Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
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To: BOB VAN DER POEL 76510,2203 (X)
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BOB,
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I got past the initial problem of being able to transfer files to the tape
|
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drive /mt0 by makeing a few system calls. But, now I need to somehow be able to
|
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see the file after I transferred it using <frestore>. I believe the way to do
|
|
it is to update the index file. I looked at the the files in the /h0/sys dir
|
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(backup_date etc.) but I am still not sure what needs to be updated and how to
|
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go about it using "C" where it will be transparent to the user. I tried
|
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manually updating one of the log files but when <Frestore> read in the index
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file it read in a different date than the file I changed.
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I know the file is there I did a <tape -r> but i am not sure how frestore is
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supposed to tell what segment I wrote it to.
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I would appreciate any hints or help anyone could contribute to the cause!
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Thanks again
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Rob
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20430 S5/OS9 Users Group
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30-Sep-94 21:33:33
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Sb: #20427-HELP! OS-9 TAPE C CODE
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
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I'm certainly not a tape drive expert...I just use one to backup my hard drive,
|
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but I've never tried to restore it. However, as I understand it, fsave writes
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all the files into a single tape block and you have to use frestore to extract
|
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stuff from an fsave file since normal os9 utilities don't know about the format
|
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fsave uses. Of course, using frestore on something not created by save will be
|
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sure to fail. I don't believe the index portion of the file is ever updated.
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fsave just stores the date in backup_dates and uses this on incremental
|
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backups.
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Does this help?
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#: 20397 S7/Telecommunications
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24-Sep-94 20:51:46
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Sb: #20184-RS232
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Fm: Dieter G. Rossmann 70314,1766
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To: BRIAN P BROCKWAY 76672,3620
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Have on RS-232 Deluxe Shack pak... Best offers, plus shipping...
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#: 20398 S7/Telecommunications
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24-Sep-94 20:51:49
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Sb: #20184-RS232
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Fm: Dieter G. Rossmann 70314,1766
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To: BRIAN P BROCKWAY 76672,3620
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I have an RS-232 Shack Pack, it is upgraded with the new Rockwell chip, so You
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can use a high speed modem with it... Best offer hgets it.
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Dieter
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#: 20383 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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18-Sep-94 05:42:49
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Sb: #20334-#Shell+ 2.2a
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Fm: Ken Flanagan 75460,2514
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To: Curtis boyle 71310,1271 (X)
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? /exit
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Actually, I ran into the same problem. I checked TMODE, and noticed in the
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wows I was having the problem in, the QUIT had been changed to 09 instead of
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05. I think I had aborted out of a program, so it didn't have the chance to
|
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change the value back. As soon as I changed it back to 05, it worked like a
|
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charm in any window. Also, do you know what the new offset is to turn
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wildcards on? I like to have them turned on all the time, so when I noticed
|
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this one came defaulting to off, I checked the 2.1 archive to see what byte the
|
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modpatch changed, went into shell with DED, and noticed the value wasn't
|
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correct. As well, have the 2 bytes been fixed for the 8K of memory that shell
|
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used to grab for each process it called?
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Thanks.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20431 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Sep-94 21:36:08
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Sb: #20383-Shell+ 2.2a
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Fm: Curtis boyle 71310,1271
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To: Ken Flanagan 75460,2514
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I'll have to get home to check the Shellplus Source code (I am phoning
|
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from work) to find the new offset for the wildcarding option. And no, the 8K
|
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memory grab by shell hasn't been changed (I usually need it for big wildcard
|
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searches & the like).
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#: 20390 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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22-Sep-94 00:02:42
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Sb: #Shell+ 2.2a
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Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
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To: Curtis Boyle 71310,1271 (X)
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Curtis,
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|
|
Some further comments on Shell+ 2.2a. First, the crashing problem disappeared
|
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when I reinstalled it, so something must have glitched the first time. As for
|
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the extra "." at the beginning of a command line following a BREAK, this does
|
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not always happen. It appears to happen in windows opened with the TYPE
|
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utility, but not with windows opened with shell i=/wx&. Doing a TMODE on the
|
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two different windows doesn't show any difference, so I've no idea what the
|
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difference could be. Also, if I open a subshell (by just typing SHELL) in a
|
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window which does NOT have the problem, the subshell DOES have the problem.
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This includes /term. Any ideas?
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Ian
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20432 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Sep-94 21:39:57
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Sb: #20390-Shell+ 2.2a
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Fm: Curtis boyle 71310,1271
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To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)
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Glad it works better when you reinstalled it. I tried the Shell from a Shell
|
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here at work, and it does do the '.' thing again. (I had never thought to try
|
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that, but I will have to look into it.)
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#: 20406 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Sep-94 19:24:46
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Sb: #OS9 on COCO2?
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Fm: Paul Harris 70004,574
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To: All
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Can you run OS9 on the COCO II with 64K? Thanks!!
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-- Paul --
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20409 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Sep-94 08:50:24
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Sb: #20406-#OS9 on COCO2?
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Paul Harris 70004,574 (X)
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Paul,
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Of course....that is the original CoCo OS-9 machine.
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Mark
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20411 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Sep-94 10:38:18
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Sb: #20409-#OS9 on COCO2?
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Fm: Paul Harris 70004,574
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Thanks Mark,
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Ok now where do I find CoCo OS9 for mine. :) Thanks!!!
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-- Paul --
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20420 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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29-Sep-94 08:58:00
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Sb: #20411-OS9 on COCO2?
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Paul Harris 70004,574 (X)
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Paul,
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You might try special ordering it from a Radio Shack store. I understand there
|
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are still some copies available. Otherwise, someone on this forum may have a
|
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copy that you can get from them. That's about the only way anymore.
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Good luck! Mark
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#: 20389 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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21-Sep-94 01:10:24
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Sb: #20205-HP500 dump
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Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
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To: John Strong 72270,1555
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> Painter (SPAINT) has a DeskJet 500 dump. I did it in landscape format.
|
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> and dithered the colors to 32 level gray scale, not too bad looking,
|
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> however the aspect ratio is a bit off compared to CM-8 on my MM/1.
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> BTW, how is your battleship game comming along?
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John,
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I really havn't done anything with the Battleship game since the
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Fest, this printer driver stuff is pretty much all I have been working on.
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Every time I think I have got something that seems to be behaving
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correctly, I'll try just one more picture, and another problem crops up.
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I hope to upload the current version by this weekend, and spread the
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frustration around <g>. Seriously, this version should work with all
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300 dpi hp color and b&w inkjets, and hp lasers. Depending on the size
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of the picture or screen, the program uses one of three dither matrix's
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42, 56 or 72.
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larry
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----- Larry Olson -----
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#: 20359 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Sep-94 17:43:24
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Sb: #20356-Screen Bug
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Ahhh great!
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No ... the source is long gone I hear.
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Mark unloaded all his computer stuff to the guy who's picking up the repair
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tasks for David Graham. Can't recall his name off the top of my head, Mark
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never gave me the soruce to this version.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 20364 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Sep-94 23:54:27
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Sb: #20345-#Screen Bug
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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This is getting more confused.
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I had another look at the sterm source. The code which saves stuff to a file
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strips out extra LFs. Did a bit of fiddling and discovered that when I do a
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AT&V to get my modem settings (a good test to duplicate the bug), the modem is
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returning LF/CR pairs. So, that is why a write() to the terminal works.
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Still doesn't explain why 'pro' doesn't work.
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Decided to try it on my other system. 'Pro' aborts immediately with a 102 error
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on the system with SSM. So, I have made a quick assumtion...'pro' does
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something nasty to something in the system which prevents it from working
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properly <g>. Sorry...but nothing else really makes sense. I know it appears to
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be SCREEN, but with everything else working properly and no source to track
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things down, I really don't know where to even start to look. If anyone can
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point me to something...I'll look!
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BTW, good old sterm works fine with SSM.
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Hmmm, just decided to do a few more tests:
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1. If I hook up a terminal to the mm/1 and run screen and 'pro' I get the same
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bug.
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2. However, if I turn my MVME machine (with SSM) into a terminal (what a low
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thing to do <g>) and run screen on the MVME and then run COM to hook up to the
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mm/1 and then run 'pro' on the mm/1 remotely, all works fine. Again, I suspect
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that 'pro' is hitting something in screen/ptyman????
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20366 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Sep-94 07:56:34
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Sb: #20364-#Screen Bug
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Thanks for taking the time to even look, Bob. I know it's almost impossible
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without the source ....
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And in speaking with Mark, it's obvious that he has no intention of pursuing
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this product, so I'd say don't waste any more time on it. Sterm_1.5 works fine
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for my purposes. I was concerned about PRO only because it might have uncovered
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another problem with screen/ptyman. It could also very well be it's own
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problem! :-)
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*- Steve -*
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20368 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-94 00:26:20
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Sb: #20366-#Screen Bug
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Okay, if you really can't find any more bugs with screen, then I guess I'll
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upload what I have later this week. Complete with source, of course...and then
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some other sap can play with it <g>.
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Speaking of Mark, I wonder if he has any intention of fixing my mm/1 i/o
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board...he's had my $50 since xmas. Maybe I better write him a terse note.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20370 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-94 07:56:46
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Sb: #20368-#Screen Bug
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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You may want to do more than that ... perhaps a phone call is in order before
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things go too far astray. When he and I last talked, he told me that he's sold
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all of his MM/1 stuff ... parts, boards, everything along with his MM/1 so he's
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completely out of the business.
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I'm sure he's kept your board separate, but ...
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He also mentioned that proceeds from the sale would be used to refund the
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unused portions of subscriptions to his magazine ... now also out of
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production.
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*- Steve -*
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20372 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-94 21:25:49
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Sb: #20370-Screen Bug
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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>You may want to do more than that ... perhaps a phone call is in order before
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>things go too far astray.
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I've tried a number of calls. No luck. I do have a "loaner" board...so it is
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not the end of the world. But I just don't like to get ripped off, even if it
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is only fifty bucks. Frankly, I'm surprised that Mark is acting this way...I
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think he is basically honest, but, for some reason, has gotten really turned
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off of the OS9 crowd (which is his right). I'm sure that it is just a matter
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of making my 50 a priority.
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#: 20369 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-94 04:33:52
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Sb: #OGRE UPLOAD
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: SYSOP (X)
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SYSOP,
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I just received the following message from Stephen Carville regarding
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OGRE I uploaded to Lib 12.
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> Ed,
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>
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> Sorry about this. I just recieved E-mail from Jim Pruyne regarding Ogre:
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>
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>>Unfortunately, I can't keep this submission. A while ago, I had an Ogre
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>>like game on the server, but I received e-mail directly from Steve Jackson
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>>Games saying that they were enforcing their copyright on Ogre, and would not
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>>allow any Ogre like software to be distributed. I don't know how strong
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>>their claim would be, but I'm in no position to test them :).
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>
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>If you haven't posted it to compuserve please don't. If you have, I gues it
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>needs to be removed.
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>
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>Stephen
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So, it will have to be removed. Sorry 'bout that.
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Thanks,
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Ed
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20371 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-94 07:56:52
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Sb: #20369-OGRE UPLOAD
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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All taken care of, Ed.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 20381 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Sep-94 14:45:51
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Sb: PostScript Utils
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: all
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Attention PostScript/Ghostscript & TeX/LaTeX/dvips users.
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I have just uploaded a few handy utilities to help manage PostScript files.
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With these utilities, you can shuffle pages, set up for book or booklet (both
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sides) printing, resize documents etc.
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I found them while wandering around Internet.
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Compiled on my MM/1a - should run on other OSK boxes.
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(Source included - GNU/FSF-type distribution)
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If you use PostScript, you gotta have these.
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If you don't use PostScript, don't bother -- they are no good for anything else
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-- except maybe as examples of C programs that rewrite text files.
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Look for "psutils" in a few days.
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********************************
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A stitch in time --------------------
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------ is worth two in the bush
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John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>
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#: 20384 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Sep-94 16:09:30
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Sb: SCREEN
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: all
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I have uploaded the newest source and binaries for SCREEN to lib 12. Give the
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sysop a few days...then you'll be sure to the new one since I just left the
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desc. etc. the same. Let me know if any more problems. Feel free to repost to
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other places.
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#: 20385 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Sep-94 21:41:13
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Sb: #LHA 2.01
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: all
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Does anyone have a copy of lha version 2.01? Someone just sent me the uucp
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stuff on a disk and the readmes state that this is the only version which will
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dearc them. They are right. I have version 2.06 and it scrambles them quite
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nicely. I deleted the old version I had a long time ago since I figured that
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2.06 would handle 2.01 files just fine <g>.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20386 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-Sep-94 08:21:03
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Sb: #20385-#LHA 2.01
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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Watch your mailbox ...
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*- Steve -*
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20388 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-Sep-94 19:35:39
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Sb: #20386-LHA 2.01
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Thanks. Funny how we have to keep old versions around.
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#: 20421 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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29-Sep-94 12:47:23
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Sb: I could use a favor
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Fm: Daniel Cyran 73750,1020
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To: all
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Help please;
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Some time ago I picked up a 'junked' 68000 machine that HAD OS9/68000
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installed. I say 'HAD' because when I was fooling around I, huh, learned how
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to delete my CMDS directory/files, and I have never been able to awake the
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beast since.
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I live in NYC and wounder if anyone has a 3.5" single sided floppy boot disk
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and maybe a utility to reclaim these files. As far as I know I never wrote nor
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copied anything to the disk at any time, and that they still should be viable.
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I'm open to most suggestions; thanks.
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#: 20429 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Sep-94 17:27:01
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Sb: PowerPC
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: emmelmann
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> Will OS9 in future run on PowerPC processors ?
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MW is working on a port of OS9000 for the PowerPC. I don't have complete
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details of the hardware but I understand they have machines from IBM and
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VME boards from Motorola. May have others as well. They haven't announced
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any release date.
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Press <CR> !> |