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#: 20082 S1/General Interest
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30-Jun-94 16:11:28
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Sb: #19766-LLOYD I/O on INTERNET
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Fm: Frank Hoffman 72733,3655
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To: James Truesdale [JBM] 71174,3442 (X)
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It is Oregon Telecom.... ortel.com
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Yes, frank_hoffman@ortel.com
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is correct.
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Thanks Jay
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#: 20083 S1/General Interest
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30-Jun-94 16:13:10
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Sb: #19766-LLOYD I/O on INTERNET
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Fm: Frank Hoffman 72733,3655
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To: James Truesdale [JBM] 71174,3442 (X)
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Opppps....
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Supposed to be: frank_hoffman@ortel.org
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NOT ...com
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Sorry about that
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#: 20091 S1/General Interest
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03-Jul-94 17:27:10
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Sb: #19956-OS9 on MAC
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Fm: Oliver Reischke 100302,3271
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To: Schlenker 100013,2723
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Call DTR at Phone 0431-805293 or FAX 0431-86511
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#: 20086 S1/General Interest
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30-Jun-94 22:08:12
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Sb: #20078-PKzip for OS9?
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Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
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To: Benkt Linnander 71072,3324
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Have you browsed the libraries here? I know that her is a pkunzip for OS9
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level 2 and OS9 68k. (dad ratted dirty keyboard) I do not know about a PKzip,
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seems more use of the LHarc if my memory serves. Has been a while since I was
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doing much on my COCO.
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#: 20085 S1/General Interest
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30-Jun-94 20:49:26
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Sb: deskmate diary
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Fm: david.fla 71302,3021
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete -
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Thanks for the time & suggestion.
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David
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#: 20084 S1/General Interest
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30-Jun-94 16:23:59
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Sb: LLOYD I/O on Internet
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Fm: Frank Hoffman 72733,3655
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To: general interest
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My correct internet address is:
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frank_hoffman@ortel.org
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LLOYD I/O, INC.
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P.O.BOX 1447
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BEAVERTON OR 97075
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PHONE: 503 222-0702
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FAX: 503 222-2334
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PAGE: 503 940-7727
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#: 20087 S1/General Interest
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01-Jul-94 17:31:18
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Sb: #deskmate diary
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Uh Pete ....
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I do believe there was a version of Deskmate for the Color Computer. It was one
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of the spin and go disks that had a minimal OS9 boot, if I recall.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 20089 S1/General Interest
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02-Jul-94 14:59:03
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Sb: #20087-#deskmate diary
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve -
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I thought he made reference to an ATTRIB command, which is a DOSism.
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Pete
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20090 S1/General Interest
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03-Jul-94 05:33:00
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Sb: #20089-deskmate diary
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Yup ... he did, didn't he. And I thought he was misreferencing the attr command
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when he posted the same message over in COCO.
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O well ...
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*- Steve -*
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#: 20102 S1/General Interest
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05-Jul-94 21:35:00
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Sb: CoCo OS-9 Floppy Q's
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Fm: John Murphy 73077,2305
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To: ALL
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The Level 2 tech ref does not SEEM to define DD.ATT and DD.OPT. I'm assuming
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DD.ATT uses the same values as FD.ATT... Yes? No? And what about DD.OPT ?
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Also, how does (did) the CoCo translate LSN's to side,track,sector ? Single
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sided disks are obvious <g>, but what about standard double sided disks? If
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it's in the Tech ref, I can't find it.
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Heck, what I really want is source for an OS-9 file manager that runs under
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DECB, so I can port it to MSDos... I know, no such luck.
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Don't be shy about simply quoting Tech Ref page numbers at me, I can take it...
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Thanks, guys.
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John
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#: 20120 S1/General Interest
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09-Jul-94 06:31:22
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Sb: #MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
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To: all
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First off let me state that this "problem" is not a big deal. It is just one of
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those things that should work but doesn't. I have a MM/1 with a Maxtor 7213SR
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hard drive. I formally had a Seagate ST157N. When I had the Seagate I was able
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to boot from the hard drive without any problem. Now that I have the Maxtor it
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must tries anywhere from 5 to 10 times to boot before it does. This is when it
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is up and running and I just press reset. It is worst when it is a cold boot. I
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have a blank formatted disk in the drive like I should. It seems to me that I
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saw a message a while ago from someone who had this same make of drive that
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found a fix to the problem. If so please let me know what you did.
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Thanks
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Keith Bauer
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CIS:71102,317 Delphi:keithbauer Internet:keithbauer@delphi.com
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Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01 How 'bout them Cowboys!
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#: 20121 S1/General Interest
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09-Jul-94 15:53:57
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Sb: #20120-#MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
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To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)
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I'm surprised it is even booting at all. I have two 7213S's and when I upgraded
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to a 340 and it wouldn't boot I spent quite some time on the telephone with
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Kevin Pease. His last comment on the matter was that the ROM boot code was
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trying to do multi sector IO and the drive did not support it (or vice versa, I
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don't remember which). Pease actually suggested getting a smallish Connor just
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to boot from!! His only other suggestion was to send him my second drive so he
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could debug the boot code on his system with the drive. I told him I would be
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willing to do without a second hard drive for up to a month and offered to send
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it to him, but at the time (shortly after last year's ATL fest) he was too busy
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to work on it. I haven't spoken to him since, and I am still having to boot
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from a floppy.
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------------------------------------
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Zack C Sessions
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They say, "Money talks". But all mine ever says is, "Goodbye".
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#: 20123 S1/General Interest
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09-Jul-94 23:31:45
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Sb: #20121-#MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555 (X)
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Oh...and I thought I was the only one who couldn't get the boot roms to work
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from a HD. I have a Maxtor 231 meg and a Quantum 105. Nither will boot from the
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HD. The system just times out and eventually tries the floppy. Hmmm, out of
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interest, when you system is not booting does the HD LED show any activity?
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Mine doesn't...however, if I connect a digitial probe to the scsi activity line
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I do get regular blinks. I sort of figured that the computer was sending
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something to the HD, but never getting a reply. Guess I need to see the rom
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code or borrow one of those scsi analyzers (anyone got one I can borrow <g>).
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#: 20124 S1/General Interest
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10-Jul-94 23:49:08
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Sb: #20123-#MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Where do I get a boot rom? I have been asking and asking, and no responses,
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although everyone talks about it!
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Eric
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20127 S1/General Interest
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11-Jul-94 21:42:32
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Sb: #20124-#MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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I got mine from Paul Ward. Have you tried Blackhawk (David Graham), the new
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manufacturer/dist. for the MM/1?
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#: 20130 S1/General Interest
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12-Jul-94 00:03:05
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Sb: #20127-#MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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I have left him private e-mail with no responses. Does he have an account
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here? Anyone know his current e-mail address?
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Eric
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 20131 S1/General Interest
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12-Jul-94 07:21:18
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Sb: #20130-MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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Eric,
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I'm not sure if he is has an active CIS account. You can reach him from Mail
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at:
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INTERNET:NIMITZ@delphi.com
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He just left a message on the CoCo list that his machine will be down for about
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a week or so for repairs, apparently he won't be reading his mail during that
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period, so don't expect an immediate response.
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Bill Wittman (Wittman Computer Products) is also selling MM/1 stuff, I don't
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know whether he has boot roms or not, try:
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INTERNET:WW2150@ACSPR1.acs.brockport.edu
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Mark Griffith might have some, try:
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76070,41 on CIS
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or:
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INTERNET:tripos!griffith@GOOFUS.WUSTL.EDU
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Good luck!
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-Bill-
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#: 20132 S1/General Interest
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12-Jul-94 17:31:41
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Sb: #20130-MM/1 hard drive boot
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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I'm not sure that David has a CompuServe account. But he should be reachable
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via CompuServe mail at Internet:nimitz@delphi.com
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#: 20122 S1/General Interest
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09-Jul-94 16:48:51
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Sb: Boot rom for MM/1
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: all
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I am interested in a rom which boots from my hard disk. I am using a Quantum
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340MB hard disk.
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Right now, I have to keep a floppy in the disk drive and boot from it.
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Please e-mail me directly with prices and where to send a check.
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Thanks
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Eric Levinson
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#: 20133 S1/General Interest
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13-Jul-94 12:25:06
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Sb: #GNU C Cross Compiler
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: All
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I was just wondering if there was such a thing as a GNU C/C++ cross compiler
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that runs under DOS or OS/2 (preferring the latter) and creates OS9
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executables.
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We have been working with the Microware V3.2 compiler up to now, and our
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experiments with the Ultra C cross compiler are not encouraging ( SLOW
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compiles, BIG and SLOW executables!)
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Maybe somebody has sources?
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#: 20134 S1/General Interest
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14-Jul-94 10:20:48
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Sb: #20133-#GNU C Cross Compiler
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Fm: David M. Horn 73260,242
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277 (X)
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Are you aware of the GNU compiler that runs native under OS-9?
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#: 20142 S1/General Interest
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19-Jul-94 15:45:58
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Sb: #20134-#GNU C Cross Compiler
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: David M. Horn 73260,242 (X)
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>Are you aware of the GNU compiler that runs native under OS-9?
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David,
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Yes, I know about that one, but I don't have a notebook running OS9...
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#: 20143 S1/General Interest
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20-Jul-94 00:09:45
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Sb: #20142-GNU C Cross Compiler
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Fm: David M. Horn 73260,242
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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<No notebook running OS-9 ...>
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Gibbs Laboratories (708)808-9060 has OS-9 running on Macintosh computers.
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I have heard it runs on Powerbooks also. I saw it working around 1991, it
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looked good then and they have continued to improve it since then.
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#: 20135 S1/General Interest
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16-Jul-94 12:59:19
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Sb: #20133-#GNU C Cross Compiler
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Fm: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277 (X)
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> I was just wondering if there was such a thing as a GNU C/C++ cross
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> compiler that runs under DOS or OS/2 (preferring the latter) and creates
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> OS9 executables.
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> We have been working with the Microware V3.2 compiler up to now, and our
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> experiments with the Ultra C cross compiler are not encouraging ( SLOW
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> compiles, BIG and SLOW executables!)
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> Maybe somebody has sources?
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>
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What version of the Ultra C compiler are you using? Microware sells a DOS (not
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OS/2) hosted version of the Ultra C cross compiler. The 1.2 version of Ultra C
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(due out soon) generates very efficient code vis a vis compared to GCC, Ultra C
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1.1 and C 3.2 compilers.
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You may want to check your options and upgrade to the 1.2 version of Ultra C
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when it is available.
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(Opinions expressed herein are mine only, and not necessarily those of any
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organization or corporation.) -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __
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Delphi: BOISY
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|_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us
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|_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems
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#: 20141 S1/General Interest
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19-Jul-94 15:44:23
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Sb: #20135-GNU C Cross Compiler
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005
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Thanks for the info about the upcoming version 1.2 Ultra C compiler. I am
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currently using V1.1.2 and it's code is not very efficient. Also, I am in
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steady contact with Microware's U.K office, and they didn't mention V1.2 yet.
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I'll check with them tomorrow..
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Regards,
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Christian Daschill
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#: 20136 S1/General Interest
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17-Jul-94 09:19:13
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Sb: OS-9 PROGRAMMERS WANTED
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Fm: Andreas Martschitsc 100045,3464
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To: all
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OS-9 PROGRAMMERS WANTED - Berne, Switzerland
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For a simulator Project do we need some good OS-9 programmers. Programmers
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will be doing C development on real-time systems using OS-9-systems from PEP
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and Motorola. VME experience desired. Duration: approximately a half year.
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Please send an E-Mail to Andreas Martschitsch, 100045,3464 or write to: Swiss
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arms factory, Attn: Andreas Martschitsch, Stauffacherstrasse 65, 3000 Berne 22,
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Switzerland.
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#: 20144 S1/General Interest
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20-Jul-94 14:43:40
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Sb: #OS9 VME-147 HD driver
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Fm: Themis Kardambikis 76620,3434
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To: all
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Does anybody have experience connecting a standard SCSI hard disk to a Motorola
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VME 147 running OS9 V2.2. I know this is an old version of OS9, but I can not
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upgrade for several reasons. I need to connect a standard SCSI drive e.g. from
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Seagate since the old Control Data WREN drives are no longer available.The WREN
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drives are supposed to have a standard SCSI interface so I tried to change the
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driver descriptor but without luck. So if anybody out there has any experience
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with this problem please let me know.
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#: 20145 S1/General Interest
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20-Jul-94 18:38:59
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Sb: #20144-OS9 VME-147 HD driver
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Themis Kardambikis 76620,3434
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Themis -
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We used to run an old MVME-147 cage... I was pretty sure that the drive on
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there was a SASI... maybe not, though. Also - if this is as a result of
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recently developed drive problems, you did know there's a fuse in there for the
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SCSI bus, right?
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#: 20088 S3/Languages
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02-Jul-94 12:47:24
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Sb: #20072-68xx XASM on DOS machine
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Fm: Paul R. Santa-Maria 71674,422
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To: DOUG 72667,1433
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There are a couple in the IBMPRO forum libraries.
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#: 20096 S7/Telecommunications
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04-Jul-94 22:22:51
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Sb: #Help with MM/1 hi speed
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: all
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I am having a problem running two modems on the two high speed ports on the
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MM/1. I have asked around and I have been told that it is a problem with the
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driver.
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The problem I am having is that when both modems are set to answer the line,
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the CD is not detected, and if someone hangs up, the signal of change of CD
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does not
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get sent.
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When only one modem is configured and set up, all works fine.
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I was told that Carl Kreider has the source for the serial drivers for OSk 2.4?
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Is there any way the drivers can be reworked?
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Also, another thing I have noticed is that the ports miss characters during
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hard disk I/O. I have played around with the maxcount. I think the problem
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may be with the DMA hardware. Any suggestions?
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Eric
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#: 20099 S7/Telecommunications
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05-Jul-94 07:47:53
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Sb: #20096-Help with MM/1 hi speed
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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Carl did the serial drivers for the MM/1 ... and check in here often. Let's see
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what he has to say.
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#: 20125 S7/Telecommunications
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11-Jul-94 00:25:06
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Sb: #20096-#Help with MM/1 hi speed
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Fm: Ken Scales 74646,2237
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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> I am having a problem running two modems on the two high speed ports on
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> the MM/1. I have asked around and I have been told that it is a problem
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> with the driver.
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Well, partly driver, and partly hardware. The two ports share a common
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interrupt line. Apparently it would take some gymnastics in the driver to be
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able to ensure that both interrupts are recognized.
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> Also, another thing I have noticed is that the ports miss characters
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> during hard disk I/O. I have played around with the maxcount. I think
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> the problem may be with the DMA hardware. Any suggestions?
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The default maxcount (maxcount=65535) allows a _fast_ harddrive to monopolize
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the DMA bus for too long. For example, if the harddrive is able to support a
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throughput of about 1.8 Mbytes/sec, the system DMA has priority for about 36.4
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mSec! (About 35 characters at 9600 bps.) Reducing maxcount is mandatory for
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proper serial port operation. Small reductions (e.g., to 16K) won't eliminate
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the problem. Mine is currently set for maxcount=2048.
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BTW, the MM/1a (i.e., with accelerator board / 68340) has different DMA
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mechanisms. The above is for the 68070.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
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** Composed with KVed/Ved and uploaded with InfoXpress **
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#: 20129 S7/Telecommunications
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11-Jul-94 21:43:11
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Sb: #20125-Help with MM/1 hi speed
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Ken Scales 74646,2237
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The other thing to watch for on the HS serial ports is that the baud rates
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selected are compatible. Don't have the list right now...but you can't do
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things like set one for 19.2 and the other for 38.4. You can do 9600 and 19.2,
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or 9600 and 38.4, or both 38.4, etc. If it isn't here, I could type up the data
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from the 68681 data sheet and post it here.
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#: 20094 S9/Utilities
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04-Jul-94 21:56:52
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Sb: #new ars
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: sysop (X)
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I left the production versions of ar in libs 10 and 12, for the 6809 and 68K
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respectively. However, I hosed up the description of the 68K version. Can you
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fix it, or do I have to re-upload?
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Carl
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#: 20097 S9/Utilities
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05-Jul-94 05:37:36
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Sb: #20094-#new ars
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Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)
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Carl,
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I think I figgered it out. Thanks for the heads-up!
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Mike
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#: 20110 S9/Utilities
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06-Jul-94 22:11:44
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Sb: #20097-new ars
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)
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Ok. Thanks much.
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#: 20100 S9/Utilities
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05-Jul-94 07:47:59
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Sb: #20094-#new ars
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)
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Carl,
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Looks as if Mike took are of it. Thanks for the uploads ... I've also placed a
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pointer in the NEWS FLASH about the availability of the files.
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While I have you ... I have an OS9000 version of AR2 from the net, supposedly
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authorized by you. If it has your blessing, I'll place it in the library as
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well.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 20111 S9/Utilities
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06-Jul-94 22:12:45
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Sb: #20100-#new ars
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I haven't actually run it, but it was done with my blessing from my sources. It
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should be ok to release. I guess we will then find out if it works!
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Carl
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#: 20118 S9/Utilities
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07-Jul-94 19:58:41
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Sb: #20111-new ars
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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Thanks for the confirmation, Carl. I'll get it posted shortly.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 20146 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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20-Jul-94 23:02:33
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Sb: HELP- FILE TRANSFER
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Fm: David Esleck 74004,1600
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To: ALL
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Can someone please advise me on transferring text files from a Color Computer
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III running OS9 level 2 to a Mac? I do not have a modem for the Coco III, and
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am hoping that i can connect through the serial port somehow. Or, if there is
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some way that an IBM can read the files, I could transfer them to the Mac. Can
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anyone help??- please e-mail!
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#: 20092 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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03-Jul-94 21:55:39
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Sb: #New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: all
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I recently downloaded the new sysgo replacement for the MM/1.
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When I created a new boot disk and booted all went fine.
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I created a Startup.2 file and rebooted with the shift key down..
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The startup.2 file gets executed then the following happens. It displays
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Error #000:216
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it then waits about 6 seconds, clears the screen and displays the same message.
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This only happens on the /term device. All the other devices works fine.
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Any ideas?
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Please write here or eric_levinson@rcisnet.org
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Thanks
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#: 20093 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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03-Jul-94 22:32:56
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Sb: #20092-#New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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That's a bad path, if I recall... Perhaps you need to use a fully qualified
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pathname (i.e. /dd/cmds/mycommand /dd/my_scriptfile).
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Pete
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#: 20095 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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04-Jul-94 22:15:59
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Sb: #20093-#New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Bad path? I am not using any paths in my startup file. Just an echo command:
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echo THIS IS STARUP.2
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Happy 4th!
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#: 20101 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Jul-94 11:07:06
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Sb: #20095-#New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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Mmmmm.... in the SYSGO, has /dd/cmds been CHX'd to (made the execution
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directory)? Is the SHELL in that directory? Is it in memory? Your problem is
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likely in one of these areas.
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Pete
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#: 20104 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Jul-94 00:25:12
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Sb: #20101-New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Yea, SHELL is in /dd/cmds.
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If my STARTUP is:
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echo STARTUP
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and my STARUP.2 is
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echo STARUP.2
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both those should run with no problems, but the problem only happens on the
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latter. The former works fine!
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#: 20098 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Jul-94 06:58:43
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Sb: #20092-#New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Eric Levinson 74471,1241 (X)
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Eric,
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I installed sysgo edition 9 over the weekend and it seems to be working for me.
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I did reassemble it, because the binary included in the archive forks login
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instead of shell, and does not have the reboot feature enabled. I also
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stumbled across a bug caused by alignment, this might be causing your 216 error
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*if* you reassembled sysgo with the option to fork shell. The binary that's
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included does not have this problem. To fix the alignment problem, find the
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second line labeled "MainPrm", the one with the comment starting "[StG]-05",
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and add the following line before it:
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dc.l 0
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This will align the label on a word boundary. If MainPrm is not on a word
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boundary, then the "dc.l 8" will be aligned by the assembler, adding an extra
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null byte.
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-Bill-
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#: 20103 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Jul-94 22:41:47
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Sb: #20098-#New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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> dc.l 0
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>
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> This will align the label on a word boundary. If MainPrm is not on a
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> word boundary, then the "dc.l 8" will be aligned by the assembler, adding
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> an extra null byte.
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What? Don't like to use the "align" pseudo-op? :-)
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------------------------------------
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Zack C Sessions
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They say, "Money talks". But all mine ever says is, "Goodbye".
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#: 20109 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Jul-94 20:24:20
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Sb: #20103-New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555 (X)
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> What? Don't like to use the "align" pseudo-op? :-)
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Comes from my mainframe background, I guess :-)
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My favorite debugging tool:
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DC Y(0)
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-Bill-
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#: 20105 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Jul-94 00:26:54
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Sb: #20098-New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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I'll try reassembling the program and see if the alignment fixes the problem.
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Oh, I will also set it to run shell instead of login.
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Eric
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#: 20108 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Jul-94 19:50:14
|
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Sb: #20098-#New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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|
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What is this about a shift key during boot? What file are we taking about...
|
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the latest I have one by STG which is labeled edition #7 and a #104 by Roy
|
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Ducus. Point me in the right direction and I'll dl it and see what goes <g>.
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#: 20114 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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07-Jul-94 06:52:00
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Sb: #20108-#New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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Joel Hegberg brought sysgo up to edition 9, which allows for an alternate
|
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startup file by holding down the shift key. This is only for OSK machines that
|
|
support KWindows. Edition 8 (Tim Kientzle) cleaned up and modularized the code
|
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for easier modification, as well as adding the option to fork login rather than
|
|
shell. I guess it hasn't made it to CIS, yet, I'll go ahead an upload it if
|
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someone else hasn't already beaten me to it.
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-Bill-
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#: 20119 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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08-Jul-94 19:11:54
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Sb: #20114-New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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|
Yes, please upload the sysgo here. I was aware of the later version of
|
|
kwsaver...but no one has taken pity on a poor, lonely, OSKer living in the
|
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remote mountains of British Columbia--so I don't have it yet.
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#: 20115 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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07-Jul-94 07:21:25
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Sb: #20108-New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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|
Bob,
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|
|
Since you uploaded kwsaver, I thought I'd let you know that Joel came out with
|
|
a version 2.0, do you have it yet? Are you using it? Other than taking up a
|
|
window, it seems to work fairly well.
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|
|
-Bill-
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#: 20106 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Jul-94 00:28:40
|
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Sb: Redirect input?????
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
|
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To: all
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|
I am trying to set up a shell script to take input from the keyboard.
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|
On the COCO, the following would work:
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setime </1
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On the MM/1, this does not work. I looked over the grey MM/1 OSK manuals, but
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|
the shell section says to use </term. This is okay, but it will only work on
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/term. Is there a way to specify the keyboard as a device?
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Eric
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#: 20112 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Jul-94 22:45:57
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Sb: New SYSGO for MM/1
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Fm: Eric Levinson 74471,1241
|
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To: all
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Great! I edited the sysgo.a file, changing the run login to run shell, and
|
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added the long data byte, reassembled it and it works great!
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#: 20137 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Jul-94 10:48:36
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Sb: #mm2hp
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Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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|
I have been playing around with your mm2hp program, and have been trying
|
|
to get something like it working for my 550c.
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|
I don't know if you are still interested in it, but I can tell you why the
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screens are truncated on the right side. It appears that the HP printers are
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bit based and not byte based. In other words, if you are trying to print out
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a 320 x 208 screen, each line you send is 320 bytes, or 2560 bits.
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On a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet, the printer can only print 8 inches across, and at
|
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300 dpi, it can only print 2400 dots across those 8 inches. So on a 320 horz.
|
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screen, it will only print 300 bytes of the 320 on the line. The same problem
|
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shows up more pronounced when you print out a 640 horz. screen. More than
|
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half of it will be truncated.
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So it looks like the only way to print entire screens, is to do some bit
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packing. If you converted each screen byte to 7 bits, and packed them into
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280 bytes, for a total of 2240 bits, you would get a 7.46 inch wide print out
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of a 320 screen. On the 640 screens, you would need to represent each screen
|
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byte with 3 bits, packed into 240 bytes, for a total of 1920 bits, which
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would give a 6.4 inch print out of a 640 screen.
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I wish the manuals that I got from HP would have been more informative, and
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clearer on the bit verses byte for raster graphics, it would have saved me
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a lot of wasted time. <g>
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Now I just have to come up with a good routine for packing bytes into bits.
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larry
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----- Larry Olson -----
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#: 20138 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Jul-94 22:10:38
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Sb: #20137-#mm2hp
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)
|
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|
|
Hi Larry. Glad someone is playing with the mm2hp program. I am still interested
|
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in it...just don't have the time <g>.
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|
You are completely correct that the program is trying to send more dots than
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the printer can handle. However, I don't think that the answer is to convert 8
|
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bits to 7, etc. Remember, each byte of data is just a bit stream...and the bits
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represent pixels. On a 256 color screen each byte represents one pixel; on a 16
|
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color 4 bits are 1 pixel. So what really needs to be done is to take each pixel
|
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(4 or 8 bits) and convert that to a grey scale (or even a color value if you
|
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are using a color ink jet printer). It sort of works by just dumping the raster
|
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image...but it is not the _correct_ way to do it. I really just wrote the
|
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program to see how easy it would be to send raster data to the printer.
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I really hope you persist and get some good screen dumps working!
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#: 20139 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Jul-94 00:31:38
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Sb: #20138-#mm2hp
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Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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|
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> You are completely correct that the program is trying to send more dots
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> than the printer can handle. However, I don't think that the answer is to
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> convert 8 bits to 7, etc. Remember, each byte of data is just a bit
|
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> stream...and the bits represent pixels. On a 256 color screen each byte
|
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> represents one pixel; on a 16 color 4 bits are 1 pixel. So what really
|
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> needs to be done is to take each pixel (4 or 8 bits) and convert that to a
|
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> grey scale (or even a color value if you are using a color ink jet
|
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> printer). It sort of works by just dumping the raster image...but it is not
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> the _correct_ way to do it.
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Bob,
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You are right that the pixels will need to be converted to a grey
|
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scale. Each screen byte would be changed to a 7 bit pattern, something
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like the following: ( assuming 256 color pixel)
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pixel value 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
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0 - 31 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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32 - 63 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 = black
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64 - 95 2 2 2 2 2 = white
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96 - 127 2 2 2 2
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128 - 159 2 2 2
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160 - 191 2 2
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192 - 223 2
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224 - 255
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Then these 7 bit values would be packed back into 8 bit bytes to be
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sent to the printer.
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bytes to be set to printer
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byte 1 byte 2 byte 3 byte 4
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8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
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_________________ _________________ _________________ _________________
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|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|1| |2|3|4|5|6|7|1|2| |3|4|5|6|7|1|2|3| |4|5|6|7| | | | |
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|----- 1------|------ 2 -------|------- 3 ------|------- 4 ------|
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each pixel is represented by 7 bits
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My biggest problem at this point is the working with bits in C, I'm
|
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real shaky with C as it is, without doing this fancy stuff. <g>
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I'll let you know if I get anywhere with this
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----- Larry Olson -----
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#: 20140 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Jul-94 22:48:18
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Sb: #20139-mm2hp
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)
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Seems you are well on the way. I would suggest the following:
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1. Have a lookup table to convert the pixel values to the 7bit values.
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2. Just send the 7bits out to a bit-stream function...this function would then
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take care of rotating bits into bytes. Ummm, guess this is the tough function
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for you. Let's see...you'd have to have a static buffer in the function which
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would get filled up by rotating the 7bit values into it. Guess you'll just have
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to bone up on the bit operators in C. Shout if you need help here!
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