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#: 19308 S1/General Interest
10-Nov-93 21:33:46
Sb: ddx
Fm: tom farrow 72701,543
To: delmar co
Ed there is still something not quite correct with this, but it is doable the
display is limited to two lines and short lines at that. I can manage but if
you find anything let me know.
Thanks
Tom Farrow 72701,543
#: 19282 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
07-Nov-93 20:18:49
Sb: #19277-#thanks
Fm: Michele Dalene 72652,2765
To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555 (X)
What!!! .PU? what does .PU stand for?
Michele Dalene
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#: 19292 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
08-Nov-93 21:25:56
Sb: #19282-#thanks
Fm: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
To: Michele Dalene 72652,2765 (X)
No, not .PU, PU. You do not include a line with ".PU" in your article to post.
You do not include anything special in your article to post. But when you enter
the "/EXIT" command in the editor, you are presented with a "Post Action Menu".
There you can enter a P to post the message. A few other options are prompted
for. One which is unprompted for is the "Post Unformatted" action, which you
ask for by entering a PU at the Post Action Menu prompt.
------------------------------------
Zack C Sessions
ColorSystems
"I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi ... OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!"
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#: 19295 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
09-Nov-93 01:28:37
Sb: #19292-#thanks
Fm: Michele Dalene 72652,2765
To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555 (X)
Oh... I understand now :). Told you that I was new at this.
Michele Dalene
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#: 19297 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
09-Nov-93 05:56:12
Sb: #19295-#thanks
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Michele Dalene 72652,2765 (X)
Michele,
There are two other ways to emulate the .lt/.el commands on Delphi. One is to
start a line with a period, that line will not processed by the formatter, and
the period will not be displayed. Another is to indent by at least one space,
which also works on Delphi, I think. I usually use this method, since in most
cases only part of a message is involved. You just have to remember to indent
the lines that you want left alone.
-Bill-
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#: 19302 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
10-Nov-93 00:35:09
Sb: #19297-#thanks
Fm: Michele Dalene 72652,2765
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
Hmm Yes, that does make sense with both the spaces or a period. I used a
periond on this first line :) I only asked as when I first sent u
Michele Dalene
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#: 19305 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
10-Nov-93 06:09:08
Sb: #19302-thanks
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Michele Dalene 72652,2765
Michele,
Make sure to hit enter every 80 bytes or so,because CIS will just chop off long
lines. I think that happened in your last message to me.
-Bill-
#: 19283 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
07-Nov-93 20:19:58
Sb: #19278-More files I need
Fm: Michele Dalene 72652,2765
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Yes, I do do experementation with Graphics. I am always trying to find new
tricks for this old machine of mine (Cecilia).
Michele Dalene
#: 19281 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
07-Nov-93 20:13:54
Sb: #19276-Disto 4 in 1 board
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: james pottage 71750,2012 (X)
Hi Jim. Nice to see you still prowling around here. Sorry, I can't help on the
4 in 1 cable. I have a 2 in 1 (serial + HD) and as I recall it is different.
However, it _does_ use a straight cable.
#: 19293 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
08-Nov-93 21:51:18
Sb: #19276-Disto 4 in 1 board
Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
To: james pottage 71750,2012 (X)
James,
I don't have a 4 in 1, but I do have the earlier 3 in 1 board. I believe the
cables are the same. In fact, the cables ARE straight through, but only if you
use an IBM AT type DB-9 connector for your RS-232, not if you use the more
common (on modems) DB-25. The simple solution: use a straight through ribbon
cable from the 10 pin header to the DB-9, cutting off the 10th wire at the DB-9
end, then use a readily available 9 to 25 pin adapter (any computer store
should have this).
If you want to roll your own, the following pin connections will do the job:
DB-25 DB-9 (or 10 pin header) Signal
----- ----------------------- -----------------------
1,7 5 Ground
2 3 Transmit data (TXD)
3 2 Receive data (RXD)
4 7 always enabled ---> Request to Send (RTS)
5 8 ignored ---> Clear to Send (CTS)
6 6 ignored ---> Data Set Ready (DSR)
8 1 Data Carrier Detect (DCD)
20 4 Data Terminal Ready (DTR)
No need to connect the rest. Note that the above wiring configures the Disto as
Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) and is suitable for plugging into a modem. If you
want to connect directly to another computer instead, you must configure the
Disto as Data Communications Equipment (DCE) by wiring the cable as follows:
DB-25 DB-9 (or 10 pin header)
----- -----------------------
1,7 5
2 2
3 3
4 8
5 7
6,8 4
20 6
The cable so wired is called a null modem cable. Alternately, wire the cable as
shown in the top diagram, and buy a null modem adapter to connect two computers
together. Hope this all helps.
Ian
#: 19301 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
09-Nov-93 20:14:21
Sb: Disto 4 in 1 board
Fm: james pottage 71750,2012
To: 72177,1762
Thanks very much for the reply, Ian. I had not thought of the connections being
for a db9 connector. The old 2 in 1 board connected straight to a 25 pin
connector which I gather is different. I will try the nine pin straight
connection.
Happy Computing
Jim
#: 19288 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
08-Nov-93 17:23:18
Sb: #19272-#Screen program for OSK
Fm: robert brose 72067,3021
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
Bob, I'll see if I can get Peter Tutelaers to try it on his sys iv. He is the
only other user that I know.
Bob
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#: 19291 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
08-Nov-93 21:16:01
Sb: #19288-Screen program for OSK
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: robert brose 72067,3021
Maybe Ed Gresick can add to this...I _know_ he has a System IV, and I think he
played with the screen I uploaded. Right Ed?
#: 19294 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
08-Nov-93 21:59:59
Sb: #19222-MM1-68340
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555 (X)
Zack,
> Hmm, was that U18 on the IO board by any chance? Reason I ask was that I >
received just today, a replacement PAL for U18, from Bill Wittman. He states >
in his letter that "on some systems, not many" require the new PAL to help >
solve "hard drive problems". Even though I am not having hard drive problems >
(unless you consider not being able to boot from the hard drive as a >
"problem"), "Pease highly recommends that you put it in".
We sent the new U18 PALs to Bill to distribute to the Atlanta buyers. It fixes
a problem that didn't exist in the MM/1 but shows up with the faster processor.
Everyone *really should* put in the PAL. It will be included in all future
kits.
The problem is that the chip select to the WD33C93 SCSI chip may (depending on
speed of other parts, temperature, phase of the moon, etc) go away before the
write strobe does. This hoses the SCSI chip and causes it to write garbage to
the disk. We changed the PAL equations to make write go away first to solve
the problem.
> And I concur, support from Kevin Pease and Carl Kreider has been excellent.
Thank you. We try hard. :)
Carl
#: 19298 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
09-Nov-93 09:03:02
Sb: #19270-JPEG and IFF
Fm: Graham Trott 100115,1075
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
Bob --
>>> where can I get the specifications for the file format used by IFF (cd-i
graphics) files? <<<
The information you want is in "OS-9/CD-RTOS IFF Support Library (1990)" from
OptImage. Try asking Lex van Sonderen in the CD-i forum (GO CD-I). He looks
after "Knowledge Transfer" for Philips in LA and may be able to get you the
information in electronic form. See also "EA IFF 85" Standard for Interchange
Format Files, by Electronic Arts. This came from the Amiga world, I think.
If you need any CD-i image files to examine, let me know.
-- GT
#: 19284 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
08-Nov-93 04:22:10
Sb: #19279-#Sculptor Problem
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Bob Taylor 73270,3124 (X)
Bob,
Then I assume that using either 'echo \1b[2J' or 'echo ^Z' from the command
line works but when put in the vdu file doesn't? Doesn't really make any
sense. Hmm, what happens when you run SCULPTOR from your console without
G-WINDOWS or from a terminal? Do the appropriate codes work OK? This will
be a check on SCULPTOR.
Ed
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#: 19296 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
09-Nov-93 02:19:21
Sb: #19284-#Sculptor Problem
Fm: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
Ed,
>Then I assume that using either 'echo \1b[2J' or 'echo ^Z' from the command
>line works but when put in the vdu file doesn't?
Correct. Also works with GWindows. Tried both codes.
>Doesn't really make any sense.
It certainly doesn't.
>Hmm, what happens when you run SCULPTOR from your console without
>G-WINDOWS or from a terminal? Do the appropriate codes work OK? This will
>be a check on SCULPTOR.
Sculptor has been working fine with my Wyse 60 terminal on my 20x all
these years. Sculptor recognizes my Wyse 60 connected to my UQEK-30.
Sculptor recognises standout and cursor motion (I presume since the menu
is printed and the screen form). Just no clear screen.
Unfortunately both the original and backup disks are no longer readable. I
don't recall wheather a vt100 vdu file was included.
Thanks for your help,
Bob
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#: 19303 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
10-Nov-93 04:14:59
Sb: #19296-Sculptor Problem
Fm: Frank Hoffman 72733,3655
To: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
Ed, I know that Frank Hogg had some older 1.14's, both runtime and full
development systems. Had a good price too. I've written a lot for 1.14:6 and
still have good original disks. I don't know if that is a help to you or not.
Frank Hoffman, LLOYD I/O, INC.
#: 19304 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
10-Nov-93 04:15:03
Sb: Old HD Drivers
Fm: Frank Hoffman 72733,3655
To: All
Anybody,
There are some things I don't know about some of the hard disk drivers for
the 68K OS9 that might allow me to put a larger hard disk on my 68020 system
from Windrush. It uses a SCSI port and has device decriptors for h0 to h7,
but, has a rodime driver. ?...does this driver support the "quiry" the hard
disk and find out what is there type of protocol, or is the parameters hard
coded into the device descriptors and drivers?
Frank
Press <CR> !>