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#: 17956 S1/General Interest
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21-Apr-93 22:22:42
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Sb: #17916-#real time application
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Fm: Allan 70506,1173
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Glen
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what kind of examples do you want? which version of os-9? I have
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several working demo's / applications and may be able to give you
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som pointer's. BTW I am in Carrolton, Tx.
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Allan R. Batteiger
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OS-9 Project Leader - Mizar
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(214) 277-4648 wk
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(214) 245-0171 hm
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17959 S1/General Interest
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22-Apr-93 10:31:15
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Sb: #17956-real time application
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Allan 70506,1173
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Allan -
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It wasn't me that needed the examples... but I have talked with the fellow that
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did on the phone.
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Pete
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#: 17955 S1/General Interest
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21-Apr-93 22:11:19
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Sb: #OS9MAX utility
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Fm: Keith Madden 75045,1345
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To: [F] All
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Hello,
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I found a demo for an MSDOS utility to write/read/format OS-9 floppy
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disks in the OS-9/68K library section, but don't know the domestic address for
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the source of this software. Can anyone help me?
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Best wishes,
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Keith Madden
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17970 S1/General Interest
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23-Apr-93 17:33:38
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Sb: #17955-OS9MAX utility
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Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417
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To: Keith Madden 75045,1345
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Hello Keith
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The Company is called :
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DTR
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Bremer Strasse 2
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D-2300 Kiel 1
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GERMANY
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FAX: (+49) 43186511 or (+49) 43182000
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PHONE: (+49) 431805293
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Contact-person: Oliver Reischke.
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regards
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ole b. hansen@danelec electronics denmark ole@danelec.dk
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#: 17973 S1/General Interest
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24-Apr-93 06:08:38
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Sb: New Magazine
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: All
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Announcing a New Magazine for the
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CoCo/OS-9/OSK Communities
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Beginning on 1 May, a new publication will debut at the Chicago
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Fest. This magazine will be my attempt to bring together the CoCo
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OS-9 and OSK communities under one publication and try to give all
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the readers the articles, columns, and departments they have been
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asking for over so many years. This magazine will serve the
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CoCo, OS-9 and OSK communities equally. Advertisers for products
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geared for each of these areas will be contacted. Column writers
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you are familiar with will be there. Articles that you would like
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to see will be written. In short, I hope to make this magazine
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what none of the others have done, and to pick up where The
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Rainbow left off.
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The magazine is unnamed at this point, which is where you, the
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potential readers come in. The first issue will announce the
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"Name that Mag" contest. The contest rules are this: You send
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in your entry for the magazine name via e-mail or US mail,
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including your name and address with your entry. All entries must
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be received before the 15th of May. In the next (June) issue of
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the unnamed magazine, the top 5 selections will be announced.
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Voting for the winner will then commence in the same manner as
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the entries were made, e-mail or snail mail. The winner by the
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popular vote will be announced in the July issue. The winner will
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also receive a set of Labtec Stereo Computer speaker and a free
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one year subscription. The runner-up will also receive a free
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one year subscription as well as some other goodies to be announced
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later.
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Starting with the May issue, the new magazine will be offered free
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to anyone who wants a copy, and will continue on with three more
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free issues. After that time, I and my wife (who will be the
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managing editor) will decide if enough user responses were made to
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warrant continuing with the effort. At the same time, the readers
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can decide if what they had seen so far was worth their time and
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money. If we both want to continue, then, at that point,
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subscriptions will be gathered and a new magazine, mandated by the
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community members, will be born.
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The first issue will be very small and subsequent issues will grow
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as support grows. I believe when the first four issues are done,
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we all will have a better idea of what direction this publication
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will take. I sincerely hope that the reader response is large
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enough to show support for continuing. I think we can make this
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magazine something that the readers would be proud of.
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Submissions for the contest can be sent to the following:
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Compuserve - 76070,41
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Delphi - MARKGRIFFITH
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Internet - Either address above (internet addressing) or
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mark@datapage.com
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US Mail - Mark Griffith
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1368 Old Hwy 50 East
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Union, MO 63084
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/************* /\/\ark ************/
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#: 17933 S2/Tutorials
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18-Apr-93 11:46:49
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Sb: #huh ?or_help
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Bill,
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Minor little glitch in the handling of the subject field.
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I used the <T> option to nab your PPn from my current messages. Chnaged the
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section from 12 to 0 and typed over the subject.
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Seems that an over type doesn't clear the field. Should it?
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,
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*- Steve -*
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17941 S2/Tutorials
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20-Apr-93 00:37:58
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Sb: #17933-#huh ?or_help
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve,
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That's the way its supposed to work, sort of. The field is available for
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editing, you can backspace, and delete the previous character, or type over any
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existing character, using left and right arrow keys (from termcap) to move back
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and forth. You should be able to space over everything, trailing blanks get
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stripped. This is something that has always been there, but never worked right.
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I would really like to get it to work a little better, but was afraid to make
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any more changes so close to the 'fest. What do you think? Should I put it back
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to no editing, where it just blanks out what's there when you start typing?
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-Bill-
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17946 S2/Tutorials
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20-Apr-93 17:32:42
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Sb: #17941-#huh ?or_help
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Bill,
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I'd just blank it. I can recall ever 'editing' an exisiting subject line.
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*- Steve -*
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17954 S2/Tutorials
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21-Apr-93 07:37:45
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Sb: #17946-huh ?or_help
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve,
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Its the same for all the fields, and I have had to edit the To: line for long
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Internet addresses, that were too long when the name at the end in quotes was
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included. So rather than have to write down the long internet address, and then
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only type in what is needed, you can just space over the part at the end that
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you don't need. I also realize that it can be a pain this way, particularly for
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the subject field. I'm open to suggestions, but don't want to have to make too
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many changes now.
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-Bill-
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#: 17943 S6/Applications
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20-Apr-93 04:10:19
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Sb: #InfoXpress
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: All
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Introducing InfoXpress
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There are a number of communications services, bulletin boards, and
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other online activities competing for your hard earned money these
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days.
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If you want to remain current on the ongoing activities, you must spend
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long hours at your computer keyboard laboriously logging into each
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service one-at-a-time. Once there, you either read and reply to the
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message base online, or figure out some method to download it, then
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compose your replies offline, only to log in again to upload them.
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This takes up much of your valuable time. It also costs you money for
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connect time and, in many cases, long distance charges. You also have
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the headache of keeping track of who said what on what service and
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their
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different usernames or IDs. If you want to keep a history of all the
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downloaded messages, you need to devise a scheme to do this yourself.
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Many long time modem users are finding it less and less enjoyable
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because of these problems.
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To answer these concerns, Bill Dickhaus, long time Compuserve user and
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Assistant Sysop, wrote InfoXpress. This software, developed over many
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years of listening to user complaints and wishes, includes almost every
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feature you could want in a communications package.
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InfoXpress allows you the setup your OS-9 or OSK machine to
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automatically call both Delphi and Compuserve at any time during the
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day
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or night, or several times each day. Each time a connection is made,
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InfoXpress will search through each forum you have previously specified
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and download all the unread messages. In addition, InfoXpress will
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grab
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all your waiting electronic mail, and automatically upload any replies
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you have made to messages or e-mail from a previous online session.
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Once your messages are captured, you can view them and create replies
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using your favorite editor.
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InfoXpress also keeps track of all the messages it has downloaded and
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will automatically ``age'' the message database at periodic intervals
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keeping the most current messages in an active status while archiving
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the older ones. InfoXpress maintains a separate database of user names
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for each service and allows you to update it while reading messages,
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using the currently displayed message header as the source for the
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information. A log of your online sessions as well as a usage database
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is also kept allowing you to calculate your online charges.
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All the features of InfoXpress are fully customizable using any text
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editor. In addition, all features of Delphi and Compuserve are
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supported, including Internet addressing and binary mail. In short,
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InfoXpress is the answer to all the frustrations of online
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communications.
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InfoXpress is available exclusively from DccS. To check availability
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or to get more information, call or write to:
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The Dirt Cheap Computer Stuff Company
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1368 Old Hwy 50 East
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Union, MO 63084
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(314) 583-4692
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InfoXpress can be purchased from now until the 2nd of May for 20% off.
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/************* /\/\ark ************/
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17951 S6/Applications
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21-Apr-93 04:39:02
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Sb: #17943-InfoXpress
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Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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TADA!
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#: 17935 S9/Utilities
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18-Apr-93 18:29:14
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Sb: .ar format specs
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: ALL
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Is there any file in any Lib detailing the format of a .AR compressed file? No,
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I'm not writing an unauthorized Ar 1.6 (g), but I am writing a program which
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does need to work with the compressed data. Upon completion, I shall either a)
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get permission to release the program as public domain or b) never release the
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program to the public, but which I have not yet decided upon.
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Erich Schulman (KTN4CA)
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#: 17968 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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23-Apr-93 15:22:54
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Sb: #17923-Basic Error 200
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Fm: Tony Elliott 71645,1367
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To: Tony Elliott 71645,1367
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Thank you much. I am working with so many different systems right now, I can't
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remember where everything is! I'll hafta write a bunch of scripts to do what I
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need. I wish we could just scrap DOS and do everything in OS9.
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#: 17957 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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22-Apr-93 04:10:43
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Sb: #17769-#MM/1 boot ROM
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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> My new super dupper ROMs finally arrived for my MM/1. They installed fine
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and
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> appear to be working...however, I can not boot from HD. With a floppy
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> installed without a boot file I get the message that it is attempting to
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boot
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> from HD, but that's it. No SCSI activity appears to be taking place. The
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only
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> thing I can think of is that the scsi controller ID which is being used is
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not
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> the same as my HD??? I have a HD on line 0.
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OK....the obvious questions, did you do and os9gen on the hard drive to setup
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the bootfile? The SCSI ID of the drive should be zero so that seems to be
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correct.
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/************* /\/\ark ************/
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17964 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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23-Apr-93 00:39:44
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Sb: #17957-MM/1 boot ROM
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Thanks Mark. I have checked the Bootfile a number of times. I even checked LSN0
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with ded just to make sure. Yup...it is there.
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Funny thing about the boot processes. After the floppy fails (no disk, etc)
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then the system seems to hang. However, if I attach a LED to the scsi activity
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pins on the i/o board I do get a regular pulse. It seems that the ROMs are
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trying to find the HD...but it appears to be busy or something.
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Any other ideas?
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#: 17944 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-Apr-93 14:47:52
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Sb: #17920-#C_error_help
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Fm: Graham Trott 100115,1075
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To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)
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Larry --
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Can I throw in a pennyworth or two? It's not so difficult breaking up a
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program; you quite often have to do it even when you're alreading using a
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modular approach, as components get too big.
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Simplest way is to start with procedures that are relatively self-contained
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(that don't use too many static variables). Take out a bunch of these, say all
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the math ones into "mymath.c" and the string handlers into "mystrings.c" - get
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the picture? It's also a good idea to put all static variables into their own
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program module - saves hunting later. By the time you've done this, each
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module will probably be down to a reasonable size.
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Next thing is to create "mydefs.h". Into this go all system #includes,
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prototypes for all functions that are known outside their own modules, all
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static variables (defined as extern), custom typedefs, etc. Include this
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header at the start of each of your program modules so every module has a
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common frame of reference.
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Lastly, the make file. It looks something like this:
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# Make file to produce "myprog"
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RDIR = RELS
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ODIR = CMDS
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LIBDIR = /dd/LIB
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CFLAGS = -ix
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DEFDIR = /dd/DEFS
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HFILES = $(DEFDIR)/stdio.h\
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$(DEFDIR)/ctype.h\
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$(DEFDIR)/modes.h\
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$(DEFDIR)/errno.h\
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mydefs.h
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RFILES = $(RDIR)/myprog.r\
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$(RDIR)/mystatics.r\
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$(RDIR)/mymath.r\
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$(RDIR)/mystrings.r
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$(ODIR)/myprog: $(RFILES)
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cc $(CFLAGS) -fd=$(ODIR)/myprog $(RFILES)
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$(RFILES): $(HFILES)
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Save it as "makefile", then all you need to type is "make" to do a full or
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partial rebuild as necessary. The script assumes makefile is in the same
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directory as the source files.
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-- GT
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I just read on and see you've already solved the problem. Oh well, my fault
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for jumping in before finishing reading messages. Might as well leave it in
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now.
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#: 17949 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-Apr-93 22:54:24
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Sb: #17944-#C_error_help
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Graham Trott 100115,1075 (X)
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This business of breaking up programs is probably more art than science. One
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can build some nice safety nets by declaring functions as static...that way
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stuff in other files can't find them.
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I might as well add in my method of declaring global variables in a common
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h file. In the file containing main() I do a
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#define MAIN
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Then in the .h file (which is included in all the files) I have:
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#ifndef MAIN
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#define GLOBAL extern
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#else
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#define GLOBAL
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#endif
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To declare/define a variable I just do:
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GLOBAL char foo;
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This will define foo in main.c; and declare it in the other files.
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Hope this helps someone.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17961 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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22-Apr-93 16:44:26
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Sb: #17949-C_error_help
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Fm: Graham Trott 100115,1075
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob --
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Good technique of yours, declaring global variables using an #ifdef. I may
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well adopt it.
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-- GT
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#: 17950 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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21-Apr-93 01:57:34
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Sb: #17944-C_error_help
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Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
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To: Graham Trott 100115,1075 (X)
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Grahm,
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No, I thank you for jumping in. I havn't tackled 'make' yet, but your
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example makes it look simple. I'll see if I can get this figured out.
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larry
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#: 17929 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Apr-93 18:50:11
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Sb: #17924-#login
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Nope, that doesn't work either. Same error message, etc.
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Hmmm, what editions/version of tsmon and login are you using?
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#: 17931 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Apr-93 11:29:45
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Sb: #17929-#login
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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Login is edition #7, tsmon is #18.
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How about those /dd/usr permissions?
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*- Steve -*
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 17936 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-Apr-93 00:04:03
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Sb: #17931-#login
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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This is getting real strange...there must be something we are missing! You are
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using the same versions of login and tsmon. I have checked the permissions of
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To review: I set the attrs of /dd/usr/steve to (d----ewr) and use the line in
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password "steve,steve,3.3,128,/dd/cmds,/dd/usr/steve,shell". After typing in
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the <enter> I enter the user name and password. I get the MOTD. Then I get the
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message "login: Can't chd to '/dd/usr/steve". logout...."
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If it works for you...how come it don't for me???
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#: 17937 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-Apr-93 17:30:58
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Sb: #17936-#login
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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> This is getting real strange...there must be something we are missing! You
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are
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> using the same versions of login and tsmon. I have checked the permissions
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of
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Bob ... you got cut off. What are the permissions for the directories /dd/usr
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and /dd/cmds ?
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This _is_ weird. Still sounds like a permissions problems to me.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 17938 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-Apr-93 23:12:01
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Sb: #17937-#login
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve,
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Don't understand why that last message got chopped. Oh well. (oh..what does the
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CIS editor do with a "slash"DD"slash"usr ? Anyway, the permissions of all the
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directories on the entire driver are (d-ewrewr). The only exception just now is
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the sub-directory listed in the password file.
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Just to make sure of things...I have loaded both login and pd into memory.
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Still, on go.
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#: 17947 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-Apr-93 17:32:56
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Sb: #17938-#login
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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> Don't understand why that last message got chopped. Oh well. (oh..what does
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> the CIS editor do with a "slash"DD"slash"usr ? Anyway, the permissions of
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all
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If the / falls as the first character of a line, then the CIS editor thinks
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it's a command and attempts to process what follows. That's probabbly what
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happened.
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Have you attempted to use login from the command line? Type Login and login as
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one of your test users. What happens?
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Also ... who owns login and tsmon?
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*- Steve -*
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#: 17948 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-Apr-93 22:54:15
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Sb: #17947-login
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I tried the login from shell command line. Same thing...however, this time it
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adds 'error 214' to the 'can't chd to...' message. So, yes, it is a permission
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thingie. But if it works for you....
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#: 17958 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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22-Apr-93 05:21:45
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Sb: #17938-#login
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Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Hey Bob,
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You said that /dd/usr/steve had perms of d----ewr right? Now, is it OWNED by
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steve? You may have to do a chown to steves UID.
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Hope this helps,
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- Mike -
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#: 17962 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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22-Apr-93 17:31:29
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Sb: #17958-#login
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
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Good suggestion Mike! I was running out of ideas.
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BTW .... where are you on the Desktop stuff?
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*- Steve -*
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#: 17971 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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23-Apr-93 19:24:52
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Sb: #17962-#login
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Opps, I got the names confused on the last message. I didn't realize that Mike
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had stepped into this thread.
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#: 17975 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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24-Apr-93 17:31:32
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Sb: #17971-login
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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No sweat ... the key issue here is you're up and running!
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*- Steve -*
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#: 17965 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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23-Apr-93 00:39:56
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Sb: #17958-#login
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
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Boy, do you ever know how to make a fellow feel dumb! Now why would I want to
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make the user the owner of this own directory? <blush>
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You hit it right on the head! Thanks for all the patience.
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But, that brings up an interesting topic? How do you change the owner of a
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directory? I have several different versions of chown. They all refuse to work
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on a directory...they work fine on files. And I can't have the user create his
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own directory....sort of defeats the whole purpose. I can't, as superuser,
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change to 'Steves' ID either (or is there a command for that?
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I ended up using ded to directly modify the descriptor...but that really seems
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to be the hard way! Guess I could modify the password file so that I log into a
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public directory (as the user), create the new directory, logout, modify the
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password file again....there has to be an easier way!
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#: 17966 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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23-Apr-93 04:09:39
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Sb: #17965-#login
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Fm: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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Check your cmds dir for chown. Microware has one there. It is really flaky,
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but changes user id if you are logged in as superuser.
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#: 17974 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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24-Apr-93 16:19:15
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Sb: #17966-login
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
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Thanks Bob. I have a number of chown's. I don't believe any of them come from
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MW. However, the fildes Steve suggested does the job just fine.
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#: 17969 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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23-Apr-93 17:31:10
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Sb: #17965-login
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Hey hey! Success!
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Glad Mike's suggestion finally nailed down this problem. I was fast running out
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of ideas.
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To change ownership, I use the 'fildes' utility that was shipped with my MM/1.
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Does ownership and a couple of other things.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 17927 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Apr-93 12:06:39
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Sb: #17915-login
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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What's the perms on /dd/usr ...
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It need to be full access so the user can get to his directory.
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*- Steve -*
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#: 17930 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Apr-93 03:58:43
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Sb: #linking
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Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Bill,
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Just to let you know, I finally figured out how to break these C programs up
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and link them later. I was pulling my hair out for the last couple of days,
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with all these <unresolved reference> errors. I could not figure out what the
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problem was. As a last resort, I pulled out the Kernigham & Ritchie book, and
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there it was. I had defined all the global variables in the main module, as
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STATIC. Somewhere I had gotten the idea that variables defined outside a
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function, and defined as static, were global. Static & Extern, just don't mix.
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So now I can get back to finishing this program up, without worrying about
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bumping into that 64k limit,(hopefully).
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larry
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#: 17952 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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21-Apr-93 07:04:03
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Sb: #17930-linking
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)
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Larry,
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It took me a long time to understand all the ins and outs of C variable
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definitions. Part of my confusion was that static means something different
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whether the variable is defined outside or inside a function. The concept of
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what a global variable really is, and how extern and the linker fit into the
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picture was also something that I didn't understand at first. Its good to hear
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that you got it working.
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-Bill-
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#: 17934 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Apr-93 16:40:24
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Sb: G-WINDOWS for the ST
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Fm: Michael Fisher 72320,1233
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To: All
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To anyone who saw my message a few months ago re a possible port of G-WINDOWS
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for the Atari ST it isn't going to happen.I am not surprised, only three people
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interested but felt it was worth putting up for people's input. Thanks. Mike
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Fisher
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#: 17942 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-Apr-93 02:41:36
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Sb: Atari STE, Modem 2 port
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Fm: Hugo Rytz 100116,3720
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To: All
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We are running CUMANA os9 (V2.3) on an ATARI STE and are looking for a
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serial driver (RS232) for the MODEM 2 and/or SIO 2 Ports. Is there
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anybody who has implemented or sells them or is there any other type
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of information available on this subject ?
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