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#: 16426 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Sep-92 20:27:06
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Sb: #16412-sh
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Love your sense of humor! (And point is well taken 8-{)
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It is on the list, but I'm flogging ar right now. Need to get that off my
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back.
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Carl
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#: 16427 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Sep-92 20:29:05
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Sb: #16415-sh
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Yes, along with the sources I got docs to the parent version. There are enough
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diffences that I'd prefer not to ship it, but I have a marked up hardcopy and
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just need to type in the changes, nroff it, etc. All I really need is more
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hours in a day ;)
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#: 16428 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Sep-92 23:13:45
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Sb: #Manuals
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Hi Paul... When can I expect to get my OSK manuals? This is getting ridiculous!
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I've had the machine for almost a year and I'm still stumbling around guessing
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at things and/or asking people questions to find out what I should know
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already. Lets have some manuals!!!
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Glen Hathaway - COMPER - 71446,166
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#: 16439 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 10:02:28
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Sb: #16428-#Manuals
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)
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Glen,
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I suspect that you'll have to order the manuals directly from Microware. You
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might also contact Ed Gresick at DELMAR. He has told me he might be interested
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in selling the OSK manual set to those that don't have them.
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I realize that your MM/1 purchase was supposed to include manuals. From what I
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and been told, the original agreement between Microware and IMS was that they
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would get only a few (I believe it was about 50) sets of OSK manuals for the
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number of licenses IMS purchased (which was more than the 50). It was up to
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IMS to write their own manuals for their machine and include in them all they
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felt was necessary from the Microware manual set. Not to say it was OK form
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IMS to copy the information verbatim, but to create a new set of manuals.
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Those were the manuals that IMS was to provide along with the machine.
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Needless to say, this set of manuals has not been done. I have contacted Paul
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Ward about this several months ago and said I would do the manuals. He has
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still not gotten back to me on it or sent me the information he promised to
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enable me to start writing them.
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Last I heard, the manual set from Microware was going for about $120, or maybe
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as low as $80. Let me know what the price is if you decide to contact them or
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Ed Gresick.
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Mark
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#: 16446 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 23:07:30
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Sb: #16439-#Manuals
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Hi Mark... This is starting to make me a little mad. I talked to MicroWare.
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They want something like $200+ for a set of manuals. I don't think I should
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have to pay extra - they should come with the machine.
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Glen Hathaway - COMPER - 71446,166
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#: 16448 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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15-Sep-92 10:51:52
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Sb: #16446-#Manuals
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)
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Glen,
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Yes, I agree. That was the origianl intent of IMS. Somewhere along the way,
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the desire seems to have been lost.
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Mark
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#: 16451 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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15-Sep-92 22:40:26
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Sb: #16448-Manuals
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Hi Mark... Well I don't know what else to say. Guess I'll just sit here and
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steam for a while. Paul told me once that they might buy a batch of manuals
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"late summer or thereabouts". I'd say it's pretty much "thereabouts" now! One
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of these days he'll read this thread and hopefully it'll inspire him to do
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something about this situation. (I hope).
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#: 16440 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 14:23:35
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Sb: #16428-#Manuals
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)
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Glen - let me ask around. I *think* I know someone who was given two sets of
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manuals.
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#: 16447 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 23:09:56
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Sb: #16440-Manuals
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Hi Kevin... If you could find a spare set, I would be thrilled to see them.
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Have you talked to Paul lately about this? What is he doing about it? Anyway,
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thanks for the help.
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Glen Hathaway - COMPER - 71446,166
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#: 16430 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Sep-92 17:32:48
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Sb: #recursive functions
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Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
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To: all C programmers
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I have a question regarding recursive use of functions for you C people.
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If I recursively call the same function within the function, where will the
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system pointer return to when the 2nd call to a function is made???
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Example:
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func() { /* program coding*/ if (my params exist){
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secondfunc();
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func();
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} /*other continued code*/ }
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I have called up the function 'secondfunc() if all conditions exist, and after
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secondfunc() runs, I want to run the original func() from it's beginning, with
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information that I get from secondfunc().
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After secondfunc() runs, then func() runs, does the system pointer then go back
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to the end of the func() call, therefore executing rest of the code from my
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original call to func()?? If so, I should declare an exit after func().
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Any help would be appreciated.
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Thanks much for your help!!
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jim
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#: 16435 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 06:55:56
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Sb: #16430-#recursive functions
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)
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Jim -
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Each 'instance' of 'func()' gets copies of all of the code within func(),
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therefore upon execution secondfunc() and func(), program control will return
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to whichever copy of func() called it, and execute the rest of the code in
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_that_ copy of func(), before returning to its caller, which MAY be another
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copy of func(). If that's the case, the calling copy of func()'s remaining code
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will then be executed upon return.
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Also - don't use exit() unless you want to leave the program. You could use
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return(), if the situation called for it....
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Pete
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#: 16444 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 21:31:57
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Sb: #16435-#recursive functions
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Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Thanks for the information, Pete --> that is what I really did expect, but
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needed confirmation from someone who had done it before.
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Now I gotta rewrite some coding so I can use a break statement after that
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second call to func(), so the program doesn't re-run from that point.
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Take care, and thanks again.
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jim
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#: 16445 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 21:47:33
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Sb: #16444-recursive functions
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)
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Jim -
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Great, but use 'return', and not 'break'... break is only useful leaving a
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while() or switch() or for() loop.
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Pete
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#: 16450 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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15-Sep-92 22:00:37
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Sb: #16444-#recursive functions
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)
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This might be heresy...but you might consider using a GOTO <ducking>. I find
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goto's very useful to exit a function without a lot of flag checking simply by
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putting an EXIT label at the end and then doing a goto EXIT. You might also
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consider doing a loop at the top of you function to loop back rather than
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calling it recursively (hard to judge that, not knowing what it is you are
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doing).
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return is fine, but the compiler will give all kinds of warnings if you just do
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a return from a function not declared as void (return 0 is fine). And declaring
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functions as void has it's own interesting side effects...
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#: 16453 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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16-Sep-92 09:14:32
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Sb: #16450-recursive functions
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Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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When I went to school to learn 'the basics' about C, I had a total of 3
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instructors. I got 3 DIFFERENT answers about using goto's from these
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gentlemen. 1) Never use goto's; 2) they are part of the language, and
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therefore can be used anywhere and anytime you want to; and 3) use them
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judiciously, there is normally another way out of your problem than using a
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goto.
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I prefer to think in terms of using goto's as the third man told me - judicious
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use.
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Thanks for the tips.
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jim
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#: 16431 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
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13-Sep-92 19:19:08
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Sb: #6809
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Fm: seth brody 76350,1061
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To: sysop (X)
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Hello -My name is Seth Brody. I'm a computer engineering student at
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Polytechnic University. I need to find materials on programming the 6809, and
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it is very difficult to find anything! Are there any manuals on-line,
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condensed versions thereof, etc.? Your help or suggestions are MOST
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appreciated.
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Thanks -- Seth Brody 71350, 1061
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#: 16433 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
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14-Sep-92 00:28:04
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Sb: #16431-6809
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: seth brody 76350,1061
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Hi Seth... Look around for a copy of Lance Leventhal's '6809 Assembly Language
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Programming'. Published by McGraw Hill ISBN 0-931988-35-7. It's probably about
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the best book you'll find on the subject. Very complete.
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Glen Hathaway - COMPER - 71446,166
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#: 16436 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
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14-Sep-92 06:57:40
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Sb: #16431-6809
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: seth brody 76350,1061
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There's also another book by Rodney Zaks (or Saks) which is like the Leventhal
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book, but a bit easier reading. Believe it's calld PROGRAMMING the 6809.
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Pete
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#: 16442 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
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14-Sep-92 20:01:40
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Sb: #16431-6809
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Fm: DOUG 72667,1433
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To: seth brody 76350,1061
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Hi Seth, Rodnay Zaks book... Sybex Press ISBN 0-89588-078-4. I agree with
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Pete, Zaks book is easy to read. Great resource.
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Doug
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#: 16432 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Sep-92 20:10:13
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Sb: BGFX docs
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Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
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To: Kevin Darling
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Kevin, I was wondering if you had anything put together yet in the way of docs
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for BGFX. I am tring to port over some stuff I wrote on the CoCo using your
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improved Gfx2. I would like to know how the menu calls work. If you have even a
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rough draft that you could email me I could use that. Thanks Keith Bauer
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#: 16434 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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14-Sep-92 02:37:39
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Sb: #16421-Laptop
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: Bud Hamblen 72466,256 (X)
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Bud,
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Shame on me: right after I posted my question, the very same thing occurred to
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me, and I found info about PC-bridge in the Microware forum and I'll take it
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from there.
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Nevertheless, thanks for your reply.
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Regards,
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Chris
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#: 16437 S1/General Interest
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14-Sep-92 07:20:27
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Sb: #16425-Virus Warning/Update
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Fm: Dan Robins 70007,3264
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete,
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I like that. Thanks! Dan
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#: 16438 S1/General Interest
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14-Sep-92 09:40:30
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Sb: #16414-#Virus Warning/Update
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Dan Robins 70007,3264 (X)
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The Dan Quayle Virus has a new mutation...
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It now will invade your system and disable all spell checker software!!!!
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LV
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#: 16469 S1/General Interest
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18-Sep-92 02:18:52
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Sb: #16438-Virus Warning/Update
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Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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new version to DOS PEROT The moment you think the software is through running,
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it considers running again!
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#: 16443 S15/Hot Topics
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14-Sep-92 20:09:43
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Sb: Source for 6309??
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Fm: DOUG 72667,1433
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To: all
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Hi, all... Anyone have a source for onezies/twozies 6309s???? Want to tinker a
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bit with it. Thanx, Doug 72667,1433
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#: 16455 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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16-Sep-92 23:45:27
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Sb: #16358-#Combining C and asm
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Fm: steve mann 70740,741
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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I use PC Bridge and have a C program that will convert .H to .D files. (H2D.C,
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of course). I just have my makefile run H2D on my .H file if it's newer than
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the .D file. This way I have identical #defines and equ's. (It doesn't use up
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memory for variables, either.) I will upload it later th this week. Steve, in
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CA
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#: 16466 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Sep-92 20:14:16
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Sb: #16455-Combining C and asm
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: steve mann 70740,741
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Thanks Steve. I look forward to seeing your H2D prog. I can see uses for it
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already.
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#: 16456 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Sep-92 00:02:51
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Sb: #Who Used OS/9-68K?
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Fm: steve mann 70740,741
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To: ALL
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I am a software engineer (group leader) who is interested in exploring new
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opportunities, particularly using OS/9-68K in embedded processor products. I
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would be interested in learning the names of companies which do use OS/9-68K...
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Thanks, Steve (In CA), 70740,741
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#: 16459 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Sep-92 03:59:20
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Sb: #16456-Who Used OS/9-68K?
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: steve mann 70740,741
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Hi Steve,
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If you call Microware (515-224-1929), they can send you a list of hundreds of
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companies who use OS-9.... from NASA on down. It's extremely likely that at
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some time in your life you've come in contact with an OS-9 based embedded
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system but never knew it :-)
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What kind of embedded products is your group most interested in?
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kev
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#: 16462 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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17-Sep-92 15:03:34
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Sb: #16456-Who Used OS/9-68K?
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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To: steve mann 70740,741
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Steve,
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Have you ever seen them boot up the machine in your post office that the clerk
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uses to tell how much postage you need to pay for that letter or package?
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Ask 'em to do it sometime, and you might be surprised to see an OSK sign on.
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17-Sep-92 18:59:42
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Sb: #16456-Who Used OS/9-68K?
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Fm: Robert Heller 71450,3432
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To: steve mann 70740,741
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We have two Denning robots - they have 68K processors (the older one a 68008,
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the newwer one I think is a 68000, but I am not sure). They both use OSK (the
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older one uses OSK version 1.something in ROMs, the newwer one has a boot
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floppy).
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This is at UMass/Amherst. We use these beasts for robotics research (mostly
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driven from silly UNIX boxes). The 68Ks are used to manage Z80s controling the
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drive motors and ultrasonic sensors and to communicate to the outside world
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(the UNIX boxes in our case).
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Robert
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#: 16457 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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17-Sep-92 00:06:06
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Sb: #16210-#Old Monk, New Toy
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Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Has he been nagging? FHL can forget as easily as the next company I fear. The
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package that comes with the TC70 has - floppy - backup software but not tape. I
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may have "mis spoke" myself on the tape version. Software for our new toys is
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a scarce resource. Little companies just do not have the resources to work on
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several developments at once. At least I now have my preliminary version of
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Kwindows to go along with GWindows. I am going to have to quit spending money
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and start using the foolish thing before it becomes obsolete Before? If I read
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the ads correctly it already is obsolete what with the 68030 version soon
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available. More MM1ish in that it will have palette controller and take simm
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memory but faster and buss oriented. Bob P.
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#: 16463 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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17-Sep-92 17:32:29
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Sb: #16457-Old Monk, New Toy
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
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Bob,
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Has he been nagging? Sure ... during the first several months of the missing
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softare there were several inquiries made with the response being "soon". Now
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... over a year later he finds out the drivers have yet to be written!
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The sad part of the story is that the touted compatability between the QT tape
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functions/format and the TC70 was _the_ deciding factor in purchasing yet
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another computer from Frank. All his data is on a stack of tapes he can't
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access.
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On your Kwindows .. did you get that from Frank? Or did it come directly from
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Kevin?
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Steve
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#: 16468 S7/Telecommunications
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17-Sep-92 21:12:17
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Sb: #16409-#tslog2
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Fm: Ron Kendall 76257,1644
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Thanks, it took a long time to finished and hope it does the job for everyone.
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I don't have this package for OSK yet. I'm still a few bucks short of getting
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an OSK machine. I have been saving for about 6 months and I can't wait to get
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one. Any sugestions on a good product? I am considering one from FHL but I
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haven't seen any flyers from him lately. Does FHL still supply OSK machines?
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Again, many thanks
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Ron
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 16474 S7/Telecommunications
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18-Sep-92 17:31:57
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Sb: #16468-tslog2
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Ron Kendall 76257,1644
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Ron,
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Tough question!
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Yes ... I believe Frank is selling OSK machines. Give 'em a call and ask for
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references.
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I'm using a MM/1 and have really enjoyed it. IMS is still trying to get it's
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shipping schedule back on track along with other issues. Drop 'em a line (a
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letter might get a faster response than a phone call).
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Steve
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#: 16470 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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18-Sep-92 02:22:15
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Sb: #16423-Supervisor Mode
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Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
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To: Bert Schneider 70244,427
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Usually system state processes run in supervisor state. You are right no other
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task can run while a supervisor state program runs. ei
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#: 16477 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-Sep-92 01:24:02
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Sb: GADGETs Lib
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Fm: Stephen Seneker 75020,3611
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To: all
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Who ever wanted the GADGETs lib, I've uploaded it. Sorry, no real docs.. My
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wife has been in and out of the hospital ALL week. Have fun!
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#: 16478 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-Sep-92 01:35:58
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Sb: #DL12
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Fm: Stephen Seneker 75020,3611
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To: sysop (X)
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I think we NEED more space for uploads?
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 16479 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-Sep-92 02:44:56
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Sb: #16478-DL12
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Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
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To: Stephen Seneker 75020,3611
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I take a peek and see about getting some more right away.
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#: 16480 S1/General Interest
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19-Sep-92 11:20:19
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Sb: Atlanta CocoFest!
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Fm: Chris Bergerson 72227,127
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To: All
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***** ANNOUNCING ***** Show Hours:
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Sat. Oct. 3,1992 10:00 AM - 5:00 PM
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The Third Annual Sun. Oct. 4,1992 10:00 AM - 3:00 PM
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Atlanta CoCofest
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Vendor Setup:
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At the Fri. Oct. 2,1992 6:00 PM - 11:00 PM
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Northlake Holiday Inn Sat. Oct. 3,1992 8:30 AM - 9:45 AM
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LaVista Road
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Atlanta, Ga. Admission:
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$5.00 (Whole Show)
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October 3 & 4
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1992 Motel Reservations:
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Make directly with the Northlake
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Y'all Come! Holiday Inn.
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@ 1-(800)465-4329 or
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GOOBER'S BACK! 1-(404)938-1026
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Request CoCofest rates!
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Questions can be left on the Atlanta Computer Society BBS at
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404-636-2991. Some vendor tables are still available for $25,
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(does not include admission).
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Press <CR> !> |