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#: 9280 S3/Languages
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25-Jan-91 21:59:14
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Sb: #9273-#'C' help
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Thanks for the tips, Jim. I'll try and diddle this weekend.
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Steve
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#: 9284 S3/Languages
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25-Jan-91 23:07:24
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Sb: #9280-'C' help
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I'll be interested to hear how it comes out. I'd try it myself, but it looks
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as though this wkend is already eaten up...
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Homework tonight, class tomorrow 8-1, & the rest of Sat. and Sun. I've gotta
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replace a patio door - frame and all. Then there's always the Superbowl,
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although I might miss it seeing as how the 49ers aren't playing!
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...Jim
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#: 9301 S3/Languages
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27-Jan-91 18:29:04
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Sb: #9280-#'C' help
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve;
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I got a chance to play around with the pgm. a bit today, and got it to print
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in a tabular fashion without using pos_cur. I eliminated the CURSOR calls in
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the print_event function, but haven't had a chance to remove them from the
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add_event function yet.
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Just uploaded the source to DL10, marked for you. Let me know if this solves
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your "garbaged-up" output on the WYSE.
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...Jim
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#: 9311 S3/Languages
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28-Jan-91 22:00:36
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Sb: #9301-#'C' help
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Jim,
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Had a few minutes to test out the new source. Your changes did eliminate the
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cursor control characters I was seeing ... as well as your change to the path
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for dates.files again allows multiple users their own dates.file.
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However ... I'm now seeing a '1st' in the type of event field, if there's
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nothing normally there. For instance, a run of dateck brings up Ash Wednesday.
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There's nothing special suposed to be in the type of event field, yet I see a
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'1st'.
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I'm also seeing something wierd with todays date ... the year seems to be
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munged.
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Popping the source into my handy editor and searching for '1st', I get one hit.
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A comment line in some code testing for the 1st. Nowhere else. Can't for the
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life of me see how that's getting printed, tho.
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Thoughts?
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<capture of sample out follows:>
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Today is February 28, 91
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Searching 12/01 to 12/31 :
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12/12 Hanukkah 1st
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12/25 Christmas 1st
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12/10 Steve's Birthday 34th Birthday
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#: 9332 S3/Languages
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29-Jan-91 23:23:14
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Sb: #9311-#'C' help
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve;
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Glad to hear that we can do away with the pos_cur(x,y) stuff... now all I
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need to do is figure out how to position the input fields in the add_event
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function! Maybe this weekend.
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> However ... I'm now seeing a '1st' in the type of event field, if there's
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> nothing normally there. For instance, a run of dateck brings up Ash
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> Wednesday. There's nothing special suposed to be in the type of event
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> field, yet I see a '1st'.
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> I'm also seeing something wierd with todays date ... the year seems to
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> be munged.
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The 1st that you're seeing is due to the fact that I changed the logic a bit
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to not display a year span for annually recurring events like Christmas, etc.
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By setting the year field for such dates to 00, no year span gets printed.
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However... for events such as Ash Wednesday, Easter, Thanksgiving, etc. that
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do not fall on the same date each year, it's necessary to manually edit the
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dates.file to re-set these dates to the current day/year.
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At some point, I'd like ts incorporate a way to dynamically calculate these
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dates, but I don't remember how most of them are calculated. Labor Day I
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know, but not the rest of them! Anyone???
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> I'm also seeing something wierd with ttdays date ... the year seems to
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> be munged.
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What version of the Kreider libs do you have? I remember a message from
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someone saying that the localtime() function was fixed? in the 12/10/90
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release - that's what I'm using.
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...Jim
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p.s. You share the same B'day as our oldest daughter. (19 this year)
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#: 9334 S3/Languages
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30-Jan-91 08:00:39
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Sb: #9332-'C' help
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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Ahh ... editing the date's file is an easy task.
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I might be a release behind on the Kreider libs ... I'll go fetch and
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recompile.
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Steve
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#: 9283 S3/Languages
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25-Jan-91 23:07:20
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Sb: #9275-'C' help
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete;
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<Sigh>.. I guess you're right - mumble,mumble.
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Still, I had never heard of termcaps until STERM v1.3, and can't think of any
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other OS-9 pgms that use them. I DO see the value tho.
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Guess I'm just going thru an input overload at the present time!
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Got your 2 files from DL3 last night, but after printing out CLIBDOC, I need
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to get some more ribbons before getting into them.
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...Jim
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#: 9282 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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25-Jan-91 22:17:49
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Sb: #9247-termcap functions
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete, Yes, I had a look at the termcap stuff you uploaded. Not too much help
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for my problem. Looking over some of the termcap entries in the OSK termcap
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file I notice that there are a number of entries for different terminals which
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are not covered in the termcap capabilities list in the OSK docs. Does anyone
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know of a more comprehensive list?
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Actually, adding your own functions in not a problem. I could easily add to the
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file entries for anything I want. I suppose for cursor on/off I could use C1
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and C2 or whatever. The thing I'd like to know is if there is already a name
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for this function or, if not, any suggestions for a standard name.
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#: 9287 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Jan-91 02:47:13
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Sb: #9256-#Seagate ST225N
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Fm: Ken Scales 74646,2237
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To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
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Rod -
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Yes, the 4-in-1 does require the add-on power supply for the Hard Drive
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interface. That one stumped a friend and I first time we tried to set up his
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drive -- the manual mentioned the power supply only under the Serial Port, but
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it is required for the HD as well. (not the clock, tho.)
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Also, I am in the process of releasing a new version of the CCHDisk driver (v
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4.7) which will let you do the physical format under OS-9, rather than using
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that Basic program. Also has a few other tweeks specifically for Seagate
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STxxxN drives (though it is not limited to Seagates). Should be available in a
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few days. (Gotta reformat the doc file.)
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Cheers... / Ken
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#: 9290 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Jan-91 12:20:42
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Sb: #9287-Seagate ST225N
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Fm: Rodney Harper 75130,1321
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To: Ken Scales 74646,2237 (X)
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Ken,
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Many thanks for the reply. I was getting real close to making the Seagate a
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door stop. <Grin>
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Once you get the file done, hopefully soon, let me know I would like to give it
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a try. I am online daily, so I will be looking out for your message saying "
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OK, Rod....Give it a try !!" <Grin>
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Any ideas on why the Disto Basic Formatter will not work most of the time ?
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>>Rod<<
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#: 9289 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Jan-91 12:03:50
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Sb: Seagate St225N
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Fm: james pottage 71750,2012
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To: Rodney Harper
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Rod, Ken Scales user name is KSCALES and he uses the OS9 Forum only.
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Jim Pottage
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#: 9291 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Jan-91 12:48:09
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Sb: #9205-#EPROMs
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Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Kevin:
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So what your saying is it should be possable to work up an EPROM that would
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just boot off the HD. Now what kind of a job would that be for someone like me?
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I can plug things in, solder in diodes, and patch modules, but I,m not really
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up on figuring out what to patch, and what to to change things to.
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Am I correct in thinking that the EPROM would have to know where on the HD to
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find the kernel (track), and then a new BOOT mod would have to be written in
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say assembly. Of course the code in the EPROM would have to be machine code to
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start things off, right?
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I just noticed something, looking through a couple of folders I have of boot
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modules, that REL BOOT and OS9P1 are not in there. Interesting. When we do an
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OS9gen, these must be pulled out ot memory, right? Am I getting in over my head
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here? By the way, when I get this figured out is there somewhere a guy can get
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EPROMs burned for a resonable fee? Also I'm not a programmer, so any books you
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might think would help me on my way on assembly would be most appreciated. I
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have Bill Barden's book for EDCB, would this do me some good to go through?
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>Lute<
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#: 9292 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Jan-91 13:48:06
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Sb: #9291-#EPROMs
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
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The bootfile is located via a LSN pointer in LNS0 on the hard disk. The boot
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need only look there, and then seek to the designated spot, and read the
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bootfile.
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In coco land, os9p1, REL, Boot, and Init (?) are on track 34 of the boot
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floppy, and are loaded by the DOS command (reads 18 sectors from track 34 into
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memory). Once loaded, they jump into it, and it takes over by enabling the
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appropriate RAM mode, copying the modules to high RAM, and then jumping into
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os9. That's the 1st level boot. Then os9's Boot module takes over (via OS9p1)
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and loads the OS9Boot file.
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Pete
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#: 9327 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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29-Jan-91 21:06:35
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Sb: #9292-#EPROMs
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Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete:
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So really, all the EPROM would have to do is know where to find the first part
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of the Boot. Then OS-9 will just read the rest of it off the disk?
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>Lute<
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#: 9338 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jan-91 11:33:36
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Sb: #9327-EPROMs
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
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Lute -
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A standard (well, COCO) bootstrap is really three separate stages of
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bootstrapping:
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1 - The DOS command reads track 34 into memory, and executes the
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REL code manually. The REL code takes the rest of track 34
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(which contains os9p1, boot, and init) and relocates it
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to upper memory. Then it jumps into OS9 (or OS9p1).
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2 - OS9 calls f$boot, which eventually locates and starts the
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BOOT module. The BOOT module goes to the floppy (hard coded)
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and looks at LSN0. It gets the location of the OS9Boot file
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(or whatever it's called - name is unimportant) in terms
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of absolute sector number (LSN), and the size of the boot file
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from the LSN0 info. It seeks the disk to that point, and
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reads exactly that many bytes (modulo 256). It then passes
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control back to os9.
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3 - OS9 then finishes initialization, and starts Sysgo/CC3Go. Sysgo/CC3go
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gets parameters from Init (working and exec dirs, standard I/O
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defaults, etc.) and sets them up. It then forks a shell
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to perform the startup script, and upon completion of that,
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forks another shell, which is the first user shell, and the
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initial OS9: prompt that you see.
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Pete
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#: 9293 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Jan-91 16:13:33
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Sb: #9230-#mv/aif
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Fm: NAM PUI 73347,3324
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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I did, I varied the foreground and background from 0 to 7 and all the
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combination possible. It have not effect. Montype would change the display on a
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monochrome. But not to a point that I can read it.
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The only way I can change them at this point is to change the palette setting
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with control in MV. Then the changes would carry through to the window setup in
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aif. But doing it this way would render the MV window unreadable.
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Hope there is some other way or I will have to go back to the old fashioned way
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of startup a pro program.
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Nam
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#: 9294 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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26-Jan-91 22:51:53
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Sb: #9293-#mv/aif
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: NAM PUI 73347,3324 (X)
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Oh. Are you running M-V when you start up? What does the standard palette
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have in it? (I mean in the env.file) Have you saved out the changes you made?
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#: 9300 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Jan-91 17:45:21
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Sb: #9294-#mv/aif
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Fm: NAM PUI 73347,3324
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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I started up MV from startup file to /w3. The env.file palette was on the
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previous message I posted. The palette was change await back to a more pleasing
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set then the standard set from the Tandy Disk.
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I found one thing the hard way. The aif file change have not affect on the
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window if you have start the application before during the same session. You
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must reboot to see the foreground and background changes.
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After playing around a little more with the MV and some applications. I have
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came up with some workable solutions. Having a color monitor to turn to to
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identify the actual color help.
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With a monochrome monitor(The one i got was used a video monitor and the grey
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level is not as as stable as a computer monochrome monitor). You can set the MV
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palette as follows.
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Palet0=0,0,0 palet1=3,3,3 Palet2=2,0,0 Palet3=2,2,0
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You can set the dynacalc aif file as follows:
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2,80,24,0,4
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This will show up as a red on black screen on a color monitor and a very
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readable white on black on a monochrome. The Dynacalc used is the Ver 1.00.00
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from tandy copyright 1984
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The Dynastar aif can be set up as:
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2,80,24,2,0
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This will also yield a fairly readable screen. There is still a minor problem.
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The cursor is not visible and the command prompts are not visible. This is the
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ver. 3.4 for coco III lvl II.
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Hope this is of some help and maybe there is fix for the problems I got.
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Nam
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#: 9302 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Jan-91 20:48:23
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Sb: #9300-#mv/aif
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: NAM PUI 73347,3324 (X)
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Thanks much for your solutions, Nam!
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Right, the MV startup uses the env.file to set the global default colors, so
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any programs started beforehand would use the stock global defaults instead.
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I'll keep thinking, also.
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#: 9328 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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29-Jan-91 21:45:36
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Sb: #9302-mv/aif
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Fm: NAM PUI 73347,3324
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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The env.file seems to affect only one window. Another type 2 window started up
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before the MV would not get affected.
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I will try to see if any type e 2 window startup after the MV will get affected
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or not.
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I will keep in touch.
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Nam
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#: 9305 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Jan-91 22:51:06
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Sb: #9300-#mv/aif
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Fm: Randy Wilson 71561,756
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To: NAM PUI 73347,3324 (X)
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Nam,
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One thing I have not seen metioned yet is that DynaStar v3.4 knows about
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CoCo windows. It keeps it's own record of palette slots to use in it's termset
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file. You might also try changing these to get a readable screen, with the
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cursor and such visible.
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Randy
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#: 9329 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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29-Jan-91 21:57:39
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Sb: #9305-mv/aif
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Fm: NAM PUI 73347,3324
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To: Randy Wilson 71561,756 (X)
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Thats right, but the MV env.file mess up the default palette slot to an point
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that DS V3.4 will not be visible. I have my Termset use white on black type 2
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windows in all the windows. It works fine if I start up DS from a stock type 2
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windows with default color palettes. If the application before that switches/or
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changes te the palettes. Then DS will use the altered palette. Mv is teh one
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that alters it. What I want is for the aif to tell the DS window the altered
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palette slots. It seems to me we need to have some way of letting the aif reset
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the palette slot back to the default before DS starts. (The MV gshell may start
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in a different window every time. I don't want to mess around with the
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termset.)
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Nam
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#: 9339 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jan-91 17:49:15
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Sb: #9228-#mv/aif
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Fm: Mike Stephenson 71655,415
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To: NAM PUI 73347,3324 (X)
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I read your message about GSHELL+, DynaStar 3.4, and a monochrome
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monitor. I have uploaded a file which may help you. The files will
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allow you to make a new TERMset and alter your /dd/sys/env.file. These
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work fine for me on my Magnavox 8515 RGB monitor in both RGB mode and
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Monochrome mode. Hope this will help you. Look for TRMSET.AR in the
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APPLICATIONS library when it is enabled.
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P.S. My AIF for DynaStar look like this . .
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Ds
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ICONS/Icon.dyna
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0
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2
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80
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24
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1
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0
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Enjoy.
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#: 9348 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jan-91 22:07:18
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Sb: #9339-mv/aif
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Fm: NAM PUI 73347,3324
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To: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 (X)
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Thanks. I will download the file and see what happens.
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Nam
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#: 9295 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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27-Jan-91 11:58:13
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Sb: #Multi-Vue help
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Fm: MICHAEL ROSEN 73340,2756
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To: all
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I am wondering if there is any way to easily put Multi-Vue on my working copy
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of OS-9 lv.II.. My working copy is running 40 tracks double sided and 6 ms.
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step rate. I built a working copy of Multi-vue but it is 35 t. single sided at
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30 ms.
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If anyone can help me, please do.
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Thanks...
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Michale Rosen
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73340,2756
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#: 9296 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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27-Jan-91 12:43:24
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Sb: #9295-Multi-Vue help
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: MICHAEL ROSEN 73340,2756
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All you have to do is put WindInt in your boot file and GShell in your CMDS
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directory. It also helps to have env.file in the SYS directory and add the
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additional window descriptors (w8-w15) to your boot file also. And if you want
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to be able to fork the standard Tandy apps, you'll need to copy those to your
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CMDS directory alsot(.
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Zack
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#: 9297 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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27-Jan-91 13:39:54
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Sb: #termcap
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Fm: Roy Dacus 70721,1113
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Hi Bob,
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The parameters for CURSOR INTENSITY are:
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vs= Make cursor very visible.
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vi= Make cursor invisible.
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ve= Make cursor normal (undo effect of vs= and ve=).
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A very good book on this subject is "termcap & terminfo" from
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O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Phone (800)338-6887.
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Roy Dacus
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#: 9310 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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28-Jan-91 21:15:04
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Sb: #9297-termcap
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Roy Dacus 70721,1113 (X)
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Thanks Roy... My manual entry for vs and ve says something about end/start
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"open/visual mode". Could be that in Unix-ise that means the same as fiddle
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with the cursor...
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I'll give O'Reilly, etc. a call and find out the details on the book.
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Thanks again.
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#: 9303 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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27-Jan-91 22:07:58
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Sb: #9266-#ss.screen_size
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Hmmm, using a subroutine module for ved_size is probably a good idea--but I
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have no idea how to do that. Guess the module would have to be written in
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assembler and then what? We get the address of the module via modlink and then
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jump to the entry point? Return stuff in registers.
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The control code thingie is okay. Yes, I have the single board proto. I figured
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out the screen stuff from the termcap file--not much there is there? Unless I'm
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missing things, it lacks all the goodies like underline and reverse video. Just
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as well, it forced me to set ved up so that it can deal with stupid terminals.
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And when I get the updated software it'll just be a matter of updating the
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termcap entry. Oh, and I do hope that the final version of the window driver
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will have entries of an extended character set ($20..$FF).
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#: 9309 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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28-Jan-91 18:05:40
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Sb: #9303-ss.screen_size
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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That does bring up a good point. Are there OSK C functions for setting up
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subroutine modules? Are there any out there for OS9 LII? Calling of subroutine
|
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modules can be hacked together, but there is no standard that I'm aware of for
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setting up C subroutine modules, and I have also never heard of a cstart.r for
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subroutine modules. This might require linker changes too, ugh.
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I have an ulterior motive here, since I'm working on a large C project that
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_might_ benefit from subroutines. Thoughts everyone?
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Bill
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#: 9306 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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27-Jan-91 23:19:09
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Sb: #DynaStar arrow keys
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Fm: Ken Scales 74646,2237
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To: NAM PUI 73347,3324 (X)
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Nam -
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About a week or so ago, you asked about making the arrow keys work under
|
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DynaStar, after applying the GShell+ patches.
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The utility (patch file) you are after is called KeyTable, and is contained in
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DSPAT.AR in DL10. This is the latest version of the file, and should be
|
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compatible with your upgraded version of CC3IO. I have tried it with most
|
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CC3IO upgrades successfully, including the latest version released by Bruce
|
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Isted in ESW110.AR (Eliminator S/W version 1.10). Exception: I haven't got a
|
|
serial mouse working, so have only tried the ".joy" versions from Bruce's file.
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Good luck... let me know if you have any problems.
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Cheers... / ken
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#: 9330 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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29-Jan-91 22:00:51
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Sb: #9306-DynaStar arrow keys
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Fm: NAM PUI 73347,3324
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To: Ken Scales 74646,2237 (X)
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Thanks. The ctrl-e,s,d,x cursor movement is wearing me down fast.
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Nam
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#: 9307 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
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28-Jan-91 00:14:28
|
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Sb: #9219-#HELP
|
|
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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DMAPPS is not an executable module (does not start with 87CD), therefore it
|
|
should get a module header is incorrect error. DMALT is executable and should
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|
be
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|
Header for: DMALT
|
|
Module size: $3FAB #16299
|
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Module CRC: $6926DE (Good)
|
|
Hdr parity: $3D
|
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Exec. off: $0012 #18
|
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Data Size: $03D4 #980
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Edition: $7E #126
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Ty/La At/Rv: $11 $00
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|
Prog mod, 6809 obj, non-shr, R/O
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|
|
provided that I don't have any mods in it that make it different from the
|
|
Deskmate 3 Master Disk.
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|
|
What slot do you have the Modem Pak plugged into on your MPI?
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|
Lee
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#: 9312 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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28-Jan-91 22:03:58
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Sb: #9307-#HELP
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
|
|
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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|
|
Lee,
|
|
I figured out my problem. I had customized my Deskmate3 disk, I have it all
|
|
on one double sided disk and stepping at 6 milliseconds, but when I configured
|
|
it, I must have left out the /M1 and /M2 descriptors because at that time, I
|
|
didn't have a modem,(I waited till the shack reduced them to $9.95) but anyway
|
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all I had to do was copy the /M1 to my Deskmate3 and now everything is A-OK.
|
|
Thanks for the help.
|
|
I do have another problem though, I can't figure how to handle any of the
|
|
programs I have downloaded (binary or arc). I tried changing attributes,
|
|
loading to memory and Basic09, I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
|
|
John
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 9313 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
28-Jan-91 22:12:41
|
|
Sb: #9312-#HELP
|
|
Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721
|
|
To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
|
|
|
|
John, the archived files need to be eXtracted using the ar program. I think
|
|
you can find it in the Utility lib. Then you have to set the e attr to the
|
|
dearced program. Dave
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 9314 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
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28-Jan-91 22:34:58
|
|
Sb: #9313-HELP
|
|
Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
|
|
To: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 (X)
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|
|
|
Dave, I'll try it and see. Thanks. John
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|
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|
#: 9320 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
29-Jan-91 16:25:51
|
|
Sb: #9312-#HELP
|
|
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
|
|
To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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|
|
|
As for the binary stuff, it needs to have any x/y-modem pad characters removed,
|
|
then you can set the execution attributes on with ATTR. DED can be used to
|
|
help truncate the downloaded binary file. DED is another utility that you can
|
|
find in the libraries here. Then you just put the module in the current
|
|
execution directory.
|
|
As previously stated, you have to use the AR utility to deARchive files that
|
|
are suffixed with ".AR".
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|
|
|
On the binary files, if they are packed BASIC09, you'll still have to adhere
|
|
to the same rules that detail where RUNB and other support modules have to be.
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|
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|
Lee
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 9321 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
29-Jan-91 18:05:24
|
|
Sb: #9320-#HELP
|
|
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
|
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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|
|
|
Lee -
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|
|
|
The simplest way to strip X/Ymodem padding is:
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|
|
|
1. Set execute permissions on (attr filename e pe)
|
|
2. Load the module (with padding attached)
|
|
3. Ignore any error messages
|
|
4. Delete the disk image of the module
|
|
5. SAVE the module from memory to disk.
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|
|
|
After step 5, the padding will be gone, as the module header size field
|
|
determines how much is written to disk (actually, how much is loaded as well.
|
|
When loading, os9 will see the anticipated end of the module, note that it's
|
|
not at EOF, and look for a subsequent module in the file (SYNC BYTES). If not
|
|
there, it should bark about an illegal module header, or the like).
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|
|
|
Pete
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#: 9377 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
02-Feb-91 20:16:30
|
|
Sb: #9321-HELP
|
|
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
|
|
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
|
|
|
|
Yes, I'm aware of that one, too. Thanks for the the remind.
|
|
|
|
Lee
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|
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|
#: 9315 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
28-Jan-91 22:48:56
|
|
Sb: #OS-9 for Sinclair QL
|
|
Fm: Vincent Foglia 70451,721
|
|
To: all
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|
|
|
Does any one know if there is a copy of the OS/9 Operating System that will run
|
|
on a Sinclair QL system???? A buddy of mine has a complete QL system and would
|
|
like to be able to run OS/9!!! Any help would be appreciated!! He can be
|
|
contacted at:
|
|
|
|
Steven Blackford Rt. 1 Box 30-B Delta, IA 52550
|
|
|
|
Thank you................ Vincent Foglia
|
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|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 9319 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
29-Jan-91 06:58:30
|
|
Sb: #9315-#OS-9 for Sinclair QL
|
|
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
|
|
To: Vincent Foglia 70451,721 (X)
|
|
|
|
I think that your best bet would be to call the British company Cumana Ltd. and
|
|
ask whether they've done such a port. I don't have their address or phone
|
|
number at hand, but I'll see if I can find it.
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|
|
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There is 1 Reply.
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|
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#: 9352 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
31-Jan-91 12:26:44
|
|
Sb: #9319-OS-9 for Sinclair QL
|
|
Fm: Vincent Foglia 70451,721
|
|
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
|
|
|
|
Thanks... He'd really like to run os9 his computer.. So we could transfer
|
|
programs, and applications. I run os9 on a coco... He7d like to run some of the
|
|
same programs I do.
|
|
|
|
#: 9316 S1/General Interest
|
|
29-Jan-91 00:21:19
|
|
Sb: #Where is the ar program?
|
|
Fm: Scott Tegtmeyer 72560,1503
|
|
To: [F] All
|
|
|
|
I would like to download programs with .ar suffix, but
|
|
I can't seem to find the ar program. Can you tell me
|
|
where it is?
|
|
|
|
Thanks,
|
|
Scott Tegtmeyer
|
|
|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 9318 S1/General Interest
|
|
29-Jan-91 04:57:00
|
|
Sb: #9316-Where is the ar program?
|
|
Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
|
|
To: Scott Tegtmeyer 72560,1503 (X)
|
|
|
|
Scott,
|
|
The file(s) you are looking for are in LIB 9.
|
|
All the files will pop up if you type the command: BRO AR*.*
|
|
whilst in LIB9.
|
|
|
|
AR.DOC is the documentation file. Read the descriptions, and you'll see that
|
|
there are separate .BIN (executable files) for both 6809 & 680x0 machines.
|
|
AR.AR contains the full boat and source code as well.
|
|
If you do download one of the .BIN files, you may want to RENAME it and take
|
|
the .BIN extension off (ie....RENAME /d?/AR09.BIN /d?/AR), and you WILL need to
|
|
set the atributes adding the "pe" and "e" attributes. The command which will do
|
|
the job is ATTR /d?/AR -PE -E
|
|
Hope that helps.
|
|
|
|
Dan
|
|
|
|
#: 9317 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
29-Jan-91 00:27:05
|
|
Sb: memory help!
|
|
Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
|
|
To: all
|
|
|
|
How do you set up your memory?? (to make the most of it?)
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
#: 9322 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
29-Jan-91 18:16:23
|
|
Sb: #LOGIN/TSMON on V2.0
|
|
Fm: Michael Wood 71631,340
|
|
To: all
|
|
|
|
I am a new user to OS9. Recently I purchased a CoCo3 (128k), drive0, and of
|
|
course OS9. The OS version number is 02.00.01 and the RS stock number is
|
|
263031. I am doing some experimenting with its multiuser capabilities and have
|
|
build a null modem cable to interface with my Macintosh. My problem has to do
|
|
with the LOGIN and TSMON commands/modules. Nothing was mentioned about them in
|
|
my documentation and, after looking through the disks, I find they don't appear
|
|
on either of them. Did I purchase the RS 2.0 UPGRADE only? In order to have
|
|
password security on my /t1, etc. do I need to get the 01.00.00/01.00.01
|
|
version also? I am perfectly able to get a shell running on /t1.... What am/did
|
|
I do wrong or am missing here? HELP!
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|
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
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#: 9335 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
30-Jan-91 08:04:33
|
|
Sb: #9322-#LOGIN/TSMON on V2.0
|
|
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
|
To: Michael Wood 71631,340 (X)
|
|
|
|
Michael,
|
|
|
|
Login and Tsmon were not included in the Level II release of OS9. Instead, they
|
|
were bundled on the Developer's Pak.
|
|
|
|
Not to worry .... there are several replacements in the LIBRARIES. Do a Browse
|
|
on LOGIN and see what pops up. LIB 8 should be the place to look.
|
|
|
|
Give a shout if you need more info.
|
|
|
|
Steve
|
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|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 9341 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
30-Jan-91 19:43:40
|
|
Sb: #9335-#LOGIN/TSMON on V2.0
|
|
Fm: Michael Wood 71631,340
|
|
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
|
|
|
|
Thanks Steve. I don't remember seeing a developers pak in my local store but I
|
|
would have been suprised to do so. They don't stock much... Another problem I
|
|
hm I have is the lack of a modem interface for my CoCo so I'll have to figure
|
|
out another way to get those utilities. Thanks again for your help!
|
|
|
|
-Mike
|
|
|
|
There are 3 Replies.
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|
|
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#: 9342 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
30-Jan-91 20:33:23
|
|
Sb: #9341-LOGIN/TSMON on V2.0
|
|
Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
|
|
To: Michael Wood 71631,340
|
|
|
|
Michael,
|
|
I've got a Developer's Pack hanging around the house that I'll sell ya.
|
|
How does $35 & shipping costs sound?
|
|
|
|
Dan
|
|
|
|
#: 9344 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
30-Jan-91 21:00:28
|
|
Sb: #9341-LOGIN/TSMON on V2.0
|
|
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
|
To: Michael Wood 71631,340
|
|
|
|
Michael,
|
|
|
|
Where's there's a will ...
|
|
|
|
A 232pak or equal is almost a requirement for modeming with OS9. But ... if you
|
|
have a RSDOS terminal package that supports xmodem or B protocol, you can use
|
|
one of the converting utilities to move the file from RSDOS to OS9.
|
|
|
|
DOSOR9 comes immediately to mind. Give a yell if you need more info. In the
|
|
meantime, check out the ultilites library for this file.
|
|
|
|
Steve
|
|
|
|
#: 9346 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
|
|
30-Jan-91 21:04:27
|
|
Sb: #9341-LOGIN/TSMON on V2.0
|
|
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
|
To: Michael Wood 71631,340
|
|
|
|
Mike,
|
|
|
|
DOSOR9.BAS and DOSOR9.HLP can be found in the COCO Library (#10).
|
|
|
|
Steve
|
|
|
|
#: 9323 S9/Utilities
|
|
29-Jan-91 19:50:55
|
|
Sb: #Help
|
|
Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
|
|
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
|
|
|
|
Pete,
|
|
I tried your advice and still no luck. I set the execute attributes (e pe)
|
|
then load to memory and I get ERROR 205. Then I run MDIR which leads me to
|
|
believe the module did not load, so I don't want to delete the disk image cuz
|
|
I'd lose the file.. NO??? By the way, I was the one looking for the help.
|
|
Thanks, John
|
|
|
|
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|
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#: 9337 S9/Utilities
|
|
30-Jan-91 11:20:19
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Sb: #9323-#Help
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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John -
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Hmm - wonder iff the contents of the file itself are valid? Try an ident on the
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file, and see what it produces.
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The technique _does_ work - I've used it for years...
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#: 9350 S9/Utilities
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30-Jan-91 22:41:47
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Sb: #9337-#Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete,
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When I run IDENT on any of these files all I get is MODULE HEADER INCORRECT!
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any more ideas? John
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#: 9353 S9/Utilities
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31-Jan-91 14:32:21
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Sb: #9350-#Help
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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Now we're getting somewhere....
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That means that the file obviously doesn't contain an executable (or any other
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kind of) module.
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Questions:
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Did you download it as an '.ar' file? If yes, have you already used 'ar' to
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unpack it? Is it any other form of packed file (uuencode? Pak? Arc? Zip?)?
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Where did you get the file, and what is it's name? If you can't figure any of
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the above out, that may help, along with a dump of the first couple sectors of
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the file..
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(i.e. dump {filename} >tempfile)
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Pete
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#: 9356 S9/Utilities
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31-Jan-91 20:35:08
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Sb: #9353-#Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete, 'ar' is one of the files I am trying to use. It was called ar.arc/bin I
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believe. I saved it as arc.ar.bi and can't do anything with it. I don't own
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dump because I only have Level II. I am using a COCO3 512K, 2 drives, MPI with
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controller in slot4 and modem pak in slot 1, DESKMATE3's TELECOM program
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8/1bits,no parity,ASCII filter off, XMODEM transfer.John
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#: 9360 S9/Utilities
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01-Feb-91 00:55:29
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Sb: #9356-#Help
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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Hi John... don't worry, we'll getcha going. But we really need to know which
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file it was.
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If it was AR09.BIN then you should be able to Ident it (after setting attr e
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pe, I think).
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Hey, I know. What is the size of the file? That might give us a hint as to
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which one you downloaded. thx - kev
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#: 9369 S9/Utilities
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02-Feb-91 01:33:23
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Sb: #9360-Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Kev,
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Thanks for your concern, I downloaded AR09.bin and now no more probs. John
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#: 9364 S9/Utilities
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01-Feb-91 11:30:04
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Sb: #9356-#Help
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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John -
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In order to get AR'd programs unpacked, you need to download ar.bin in DL9.
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After downloading it (it is NOT compressed or packed) put it in your commands
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directory, rename it to 'ar', and set execution priveleges (attr /dd/cmds/ar e
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pe).
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If you don't have DUMP, grab XOD.ar in dl9. A really nice public domain dump
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command. There's also a PD save command over there, I believe.
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Ar.arc? Odd - I would have expected it to be ar.ar. If the latter were the
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case, you could unpack it using ar by:
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ar -x ar
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#: 9370 S9/Utilities
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02-Feb-91 01:37:14
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Sb: #9364-#Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete,
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I downloaded AR09.bin and have no more trouble. I looked for XOD.ar here and
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in the COCO forum, can't find it, I did find a SAVE.ar though
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Thanks for your help. John
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#: 9372 S9/Utilities
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02-Feb-91 01:59:36
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Sb: #9370-#Help
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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John -
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If Mike Ward can't find it in the archives, let me know. I'll upload a portable
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C source, and we can probably get someone to compile it for a 6809. Worst case,
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I could fire up my LI system and do it here.
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Pete
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#: 9376 S9/Utilities
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02-Feb-91 17:44:04
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Sb: #9372-Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete, Thanks I'll try that. John
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#: 9343 S9/Utilities
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30-Jan-91 20:43:15
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Sb: #9323-#Help
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Fm: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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John, just breaking in here, so I don't know the full story on your file, but
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try a 'verify' >>> OS9:Verify </d0/filename [enter] see if that helps your
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file to load. Use D0 for drive zero or what else drive that it may be on. best,
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Wayne
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#: 9349 S9/Utilities
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30-Jan-91 22:34:21
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Sb: #9343-#Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
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Wayne,
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When I tried your suggestion of verify, my system responded"WHAT?" I have
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Level II maybe that is on Level I? John
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#: 9354 S9/Utilities
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31-Jan-91 16:54:36
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Sb: #9349-#Help
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Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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John, Verify is on level I. Lets take this step by step. First, what did you
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download, then what did you do with it, did you set the attributes, was it an
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"ar" or "pak" file? If it was a binary file (not ar or pak) do an ident on it:
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ident /d0/filename. Dave.
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#: 9357 S9/Utilities
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31-Jan-91 20:39:14
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Sb: #9354-#Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 (X)
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Dave, I did set the e pe attributes and I have tried ident on binary files, I
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get MODULE HEADER INCORRECT! You can look at message #9356 also, Pete Lyall is
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trying to help too. John
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#: 9358 S9/Utilities
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31-Jan-91 21:12:24
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Sb: #9357-#Help
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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If the file really is supposed to be an executable program to run under OS-9,
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and ident says "module header incorrect," then it has been corrupted in
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transmission somehow. How did you get this file?
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#: 9368 S9/Utilities
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02-Feb-91 01:30:46
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Sb: #9358-Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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James,
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After downloading AR09.bin my problems are now solved. Thanks. John
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#: 9365 S9/Utilities
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01-Feb-91 21:04:16
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Sb: #9357-#Help
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Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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John....ok...rename arc.ar.bi to ar.....then try to load ar. If this doesn't
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work, then try to download ar.bin again...maybe there was an error in
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downloading Dave
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#: 9371 S9/Utilities
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02-Feb-91 01:38:51
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Sb: #9365-#Help
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Fm: John Colegrove 76467,36
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To: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 (X)
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Dave,
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I downloaded AR09.bin and have no more problems, thanks for the help. John
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#: 9378 S9/Utilities
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03-Feb-91 02:18:54
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Sb: #9371-Help
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Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721
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To: John Colegrove 76467,36 (X)
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Welcome to OS9, John !!!
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#: 9325 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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29-Jan-91 20:08:33
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Sb: #9309-subroutine modules
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Fm: Steve Adams 71610,3707
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Howdy! Since I use OSK subroutine modules a lot, I thought I would
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throw in my two cents worth. I cannot speak for OS9 LII since I never
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really used it in depth. Forgive me if I cover old ground.
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First the advantages:
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Advantage #1) Subroutine modules are an excellent way to expand
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the functionality of a program at run-time. If the interface to the
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subroutine module is properly defined, programs can use them to add
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new features dynamically. (slight bragging follows) I wrote an object
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oriented graphics editor for designing user interfaces that can be
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expanded by the user to include new I/O objects. The new objects can
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be edited as if they were hardcoded into the editor, including
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rubber-banding, without making any changes to the graphics editor.
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Advantage #2) An unlimited number of subroutine modules may be
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used by a program at once. If trap modules are used, only 15
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different modules may be used at once.
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Advantage #3) As with any properly written OSK module, they may be
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shared by several processes to reduce memory usage.
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Now the disadvantages:
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Disadvantage #1) This is probably the most frustating. No static
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variable space may be used within the subroutine module. This limits
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you to using stack variables, and 'malloc()'ed variable space. Some C
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variables declared in cstart are accessable from a subroutine module.
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Disadvantage #2) Because no global variable space is allowed, jump
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tables are not allowed. This effectively limits the size of
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subroutine modules to 32K. If you are REAL careful with your coding
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and avoid distant 'bsr's, this size limit can be expanded.
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Disadvantage #3) There is no standard interface to subroutine
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modules that I know of. This makes its harder to get started
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initially. This can also be viewed as an advantage once you know what
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you are doing, since it allows your interface to the module to exactly
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match your applications needs.
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(continued in another message)
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#: 9326 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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29-Jan-91 20:10:24
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Sb: ##9309-subroutine modules
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Fm: Steve Adams 71610,3707
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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(continued from previous message)
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Here are some (I hope) helpful hints for using C with subroutine
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modules.
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Use the -i and -x command line options with 'cc' when
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compiling subroutine modules. This will cause the cio and math trap
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handlers to be used, and reduce the size of the subroutine module by
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about 10K depending on the functions called.
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To reference C variables declared in cstart.r, include the
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following code segment in the assembly language header to the
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subroutine module:
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* Resolve the references generated from Cstart. Originate from -$8000
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org -32768
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_sttop do.l 1 stack top
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_mtop: do.l 1 current non-stack memory top
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_stbot: do.l 1 current stack bottom limit
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errno: do.l 1 global error holder
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_totmem: do.l 1 total data memory used
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_sbsize: do.l 1 top of process memory (sbrk)
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I hope this stuff is useful.
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#: 9347 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-91 21:32:01
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Sb: #9326-#9309-subroutine modules
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Steve Adams 71610,3707 (X)
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Steve, that information is helpful, since I don't have an OSK machine yet, I
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haven't gone to far in learning how things like subroutines may work
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differently than with OS9 LII. I was hoping that subroutine handling functions
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were available for OSK, mainly because I just didn't want to have to do some of
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the things you described, like hard coding cstart.r variables, using assembler
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code, etc. And I agree, the major disadvantage of subroutines is the inability
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to access static variables. I'm not too familiar with jump tables tables, looks
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like its time to dig into the manuals again! Thanks for the info..
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Bill
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#: 9331 S1/General Interest
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29-Jan-91 22:08:45
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Sb: Gibbs Rep
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Fm: NAM PUI 73347,3324
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To: all
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Is there anyone from Ultrascience/Gibbs Laboratories Inc. in the forum here?
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Nam
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#: 9336 S4/MIDI and Music
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30-Jan-91 08:59:38
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Sb: phone
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Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430
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To: ALL
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Does any know Mike Knudsen's phone number? I need to contact him and he does
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not seem to be using CIS lately! Thanks.
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#: 9340 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-91 19:05:49
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Sb: #9203-OSK Clib.l Order
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Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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Well, Hello stranger!
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I guess I've had no problems with linking and the libs. I just wanted to check
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with everyone.
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Thanks Carl, Pete and JJ for you respnses. And sorry it took so long for me to
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reply to y'all.
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BTW Is the CK_clib.l use the same docs as the 6809 version? Or are there other
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goodies in the OSK version? Thanks,
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Mike
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#: 9345 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jan-91 21:02:11
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Sb: #Games
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Fm: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
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To: Floyd Resler
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? s/194/ S/194/ S[/194/]
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Floyd, I've got your games: gemquest, spacezap, tank, dungeon. Wwould like to
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register them shortly, they are are with excellant graphics. I am however
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running into a few error messages and problems though. Dungeon, OS9 runs quite
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well but does it end? I get to the point of where the man is surrounded by
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one-way tunnels, and I can't find the way out.
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Spacezap when I downloaded this one it didn't have a graphics window maker so
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I used the one that came with tank but the fonts do not come on the screen just
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a row of dots instead of letters. I can run tank first then I can have the
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fonts come up but then I constantly get error 194 right after the game comes
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up, Zap #30k doesn't do me any good ethier, same error code.
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Tank, when I'm on a high level seems to error out on me, missed the code number
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there.
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Gemquest, on level 4 when I'm there I'll always end up with error #55
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Could be bad downloads from other boards But I would appreciate your help here,
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and keep on the good work! Wayne Laird
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#: 9355 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jan-91 17:25:44
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Sb: #9345-Games
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
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Good questions. For The Dungeon Depths, there are 15 levels. Some of the
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levels are very tough as you discovered. I'm not sure what the problem with
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the fonts on SpaceZap is. In Tank a couple of the levels included with the
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game were bad. You can find the corrected levels on here (LIB 10). If you
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download my patch file (can't remember the name of it right now) from LIB 10,
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it will {ix the error in GemQuest plus some bugs in some of my other games.
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Floyd
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#: 9351 S1/General Interest
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31-Jan-91 11:45:16
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Sb: Computers for Sale
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Fm: Steven Barlett 71635,1562
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To: all
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Color Computer Equipment for sale.. Call The First Baptist Church of Rosemead
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at (818) 287-5053 for Details...
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#: 9359 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Feb-91 00:12:18
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Sb: #OS9 to MSDOS
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Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
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To: Anyone
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I seem to recall reading messages about a program here that
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runs on MS-DOS and lets you read files from OS9 disks. Do you know
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where this can be found?
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Paul
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#: 9362 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Feb-91 06:43:34
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Sb: #9359-#OS9 to MSDOS
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Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
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To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)
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Paul,
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Are you sure it isn't the other way around (a program that runs under OS9
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that lets you read/write PC diskettes)?
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The program that runs under OS9 is called PCDOS.AR and is in LIB 10.
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Dan
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#: 9363 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Feb-91 09:55:49
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Sb: #9362-#OS9 to MSDOS
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Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
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To: Dan Robins 73007,2473 (X)
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Yeah. I have PCDOS and it works well. But I do remember one like I
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described. It was quite awhile back and I could be wrong.
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Paul
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#: 9366 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Feb-91 22:35:38
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Sb: #9363-OS9 to MSDOS
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Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
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To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)
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Paul,
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I'm nothing familiar in this forum that will do it on an MS-DOS machine, and
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I can't recall any MS-DOS program which will do it either. I would be glad to
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know I am wrong though!....so if you hear of one, let me know too!
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Dan
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#: 9367 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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02-Feb-91 00:32:34
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Sb: #9363-#OS9 to MSDOS
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)
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Paul - I too recall someone once saying that there was a commercial MSDOS
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program which would read os9 disks... but can't remember the name.
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I keep bugging Chris Babcock to do one, tho <grin>.
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#: 9375 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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02-Feb-91 17:09:09
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Sb: #9367-#OS9 to MSDOS
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Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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The commercial program I see advertised in Rainbow is Xenocopy ?
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#: 9390 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Feb-91 19:30:09
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Sb: #9375-OS9 to MSDOS
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
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There was a program called "CoCoUtil" (and later CoCoUtil II) that ran on
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MS-DOS machines, but it would only read RS-DOG disks. It was commercial.
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Lee
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#: 9374 S1/General Interest
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02-Feb-91 08:58:50
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Sb: Kreider LIB docs
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: All
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From rewop!sysop Thu Jan 31 06:03:34 1991
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Received: by rewop (Rmail09 1.2)
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id 4574; Wed Jan 30 22:15:16 1991
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From: rewop!sysop
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To : OS9stl!steve
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Date: Wed Jan 30 22:07:22 1991
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Subj: Kreider Docs
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Steve,
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Would you post the following message on the Forum for all members? Thanks!
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----------------------------------
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All C programmers:
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I have corrected the error in my documentation of Carl Kreider's C library.
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These docs are available to anyone who wants them. I will not be uploading
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them here because of the size, but will send a disk will all docs, the
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man command for reading them, and the updated mroff for making the man
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pages--including source code.
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If anyone would like a disk, please send a disk mailer and a blank disk
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with enough return postage to cover the charges to:
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Mark Griffith
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953 W. Wisconsin Ave.
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DeLand FL 32720
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If there is enough call, I can upload the archives here after splitting
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them up to keep the size down. Reply to this message and Steve Wegert
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will forward then to me.
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I appreciate all the comments many people have made in getting the errors
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out of the doc files. Thanks to all.
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/\/\ark
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Usenet ....!uflorida!ki4pv!macs!stetson!rewop!sysop
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UUCP direct (904) 736-1849 rewop!sysop
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Internet griffith@stetson.bitnet
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#: 9380 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Feb-91 11:52:06
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Sb: #8862-New Tune
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Ches Looney 73016,1336
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Hi Ches. Right, brass & percussion beats piano for that sort of music any day.
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"Battle of Trenton" I have recorded on an antique pipe organ by E Power Biggs.
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Lotsz of fun. --mike k
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#: 9381 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Feb-91 11:54:07
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Sb: #8865-New utils in DL4
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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OK Pete on the Casio. I've been advised to always stick a NOTE ON in my
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recording buffer. Also, when recording a Casio, to punch a patch change before
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playing. Glad to hear it's not just me, grin!
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#: 9382 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Feb-91 11:57:28
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Sb: #8871-MIDI
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
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You can still buy MIDI packs from RUlaford Research in Oregon. They may have
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changed their name again -- originally Speech Systems. There's also the outfit
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in Rochester NY,{whose stuff was recently reviewed in Rainbow. Their MIDI Pak
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may or may not be compatible. I think RUlaford wants about $80 or $90 for their
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Pak. Some folks have hacked RS232 Paks into MIDI, but it's not for the faint of
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heart...mike k
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#: 9383 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Feb-91 11:59:47
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Sb: #8923-#Fallin.UME
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)
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Hi Glen, congrats on your D-50. I'm glad to hear those are still being sold --
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seems every model is "obsolete" after 6 months. Yes, I'd heard the D-50 is much
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like the MT32, and of course you can twiddle it from the frontpanel. Will be
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awaiting your program -- let me know when it's uploaded. (Hint: Put it on
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Delphi too, save me some cash!). --mike k
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#: 9386 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Feb-91 12:55:40
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Sb: #9383-Fallin.UME
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Hi Mike... The only reason I could afford to buy the D-50 is because Roland is
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dumping them to make way for the D-70. I find that in many ways I like my MT-32
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better, but the D-50 is a VERY capable machine too. It works best as a
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controller, as it is somewhat lacking in multi-timbral abilities. About the
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editor - it is coming along VERY slowly Don't hold your breath... I will upload
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on Delphi - I spend most of my time there because of the 20/20 thing. Bye...
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#: 9384 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Feb-91 12:03:38
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Sb: #9125-Fallin.UME
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Lester Hands 70135,430
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Hi Les. Well, Second City is in the process of moving to North Carolina, so a
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couple ad months are being skipped pending the new address, phone, name, etc.
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If anything goes wrong I'll consider your offer, thanks. Say, is MusicWare same
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as RUlaford Research, or do they just do CocoMIDI and the Lybrary? I also hear
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you/they aren't coming to CHicago RainbowFest, is that so? --mike k
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#: 9385 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Feb-91 12:13:04
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Sb: #8908-LISP for CoCo3
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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UltiMusE-III also beats the 64K limit by mapping various object-code routines
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into an 8K segment kept open for that use. Uses C-coded machine code, and
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WizPro uses packed B09 RUNB modules, but basically same idea.
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Umuse also fights the 64K limit by forking off the whole grafix end of the
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beast and PIPElining to it.
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Dale Puckett wrote this up in his Rainbow OS9 column about a year ago. --mike k
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#: 9387 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Feb-91 15:23:29
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Sb: #OS9 LII
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Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
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To: ALL
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Am I remembering wrong or was there supposed to be an updated version of OS9
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level 2 coming out?????
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#: 9388 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Feb-91 16:12:46
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Sb: #9387-#OS9 LII
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
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You remember right. You've also got some good parts of it already (fast
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grfdrv, serial mouse and clock hacks, gfx2, etc).
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We'd like to shoot for the Chicago fest, but there's a lot of work to be done
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first. We'll see.
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#: 9389 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Feb-91 19:26:19
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Sb: #9388-#OS9 LII
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Congrats,
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Finally saw that Kyum-Gai (OS-9 L2 version) is at last seeing the light of day.
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And I hope it's a bright new day, too. I think it will be if we, the OS-9
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community, can keep the pirating down. Try as I might, I just can't convince
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some of my fellow club members here locally that pirating is detrimental to the
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whole community.
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Lee
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#: 9391 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Feb-91 20:23:23
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Sb: #9389-OS9 LII
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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Lee - yes, thanks to Eddie Kuns who fixed a coupla things, Kyum-Gai finally
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left the "to do" queue ;-).
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I've always claimed that OS9ers believe in paying for stuff, in order to
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support third parties. Hope I'm right! (I think so)
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