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#: 5984 S1/General Interest
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11-Aug-90 11:22:11
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Sb: #letter/move
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Fm: David Jones 76256,1223
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To: sysop (X)
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Is it possable to move a letter I left for Kevin out of the genral base to
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somewher like the hardware/tech?
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thank you..
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#: 5987 S1/General Interest
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11-Aug-90 12:09:04
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Sb: #5984-letter/move
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: David Jones 76256,1223 (X)
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David,
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It posible for us to move anything for you, however, the forum doesn't have a
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Hardware/Technical section per se.
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If you'd like to type SN and view the choices, then let me know what strikes
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your fancy, I'd be happy to move message #5931 for you.
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Deal?
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Steve
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#: 5985 S3/Languages
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11-Aug-90 11:25:17
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Sb: #5883-Mroff docs
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Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Mark,
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I will upload it into DL6 with a note that it includes your additions. This
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will leave you the option grabbing it and incorporating it into the revised
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archive. Your clibdoc.ar is a slick useful package of all the parts that are
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needed to document and print Carl's library. Unless you think it is too big,
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the mroff manual is a useful part of it.
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Ken
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#: 5988 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 13:47:25
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Sb: #5971-SPoker
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Thanks. It comes from setting the palette all black and then resetting it
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after the picture is loaded.
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#: 5989 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 13:48:31
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Sb: #5978-#SPoker
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
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To: Richard Taylor 73137,3324
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I have looked and I cannot find the required View utility here on CIS. I know
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it is on Delphi. Can anyone that has a copy handy of View40.ar upload it?
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#: 5993 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 14:29:33
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Sb: #5989-SPoker
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X)
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It has been done. It will be available in DL10 as soon as the sysop and CIS
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process it.
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Zack
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#: 5990 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 13:49:39
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Sb: #5981-#SPoker
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
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Hmm, do you have gfx2 in memory when you run the program?
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#: 6048 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:55:13
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Sb: #5990-#SPoker
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Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X)
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I have runb merged with gfx2, inkey, and syscall. It's the new gfx2 by the
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way..
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Hugo
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#: 6107 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 21:29:06
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Sb: #6048-SPoker
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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Do you have view in memory or in your execution directory when you startup?
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What type of monitor do you have?
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#: 5991 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 13:51:17
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Sb: #5983-Graphics Viewer
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Hey, Zack, thanks a lot for uploading the program. Mucho Gracias.
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#: 5992 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 13:53:43
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Sb: #spectrum files
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Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
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To: all
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Does anyone have a need to view .spc (Spectrum Compressed, a file format used
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by Atari ST's for pics) files on a CoCo? If so, I am working on a program to
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convert them to three-buffer vefs.
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#: 6000 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 18:47:29
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Sb: #5992-spectrum files
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X)
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Shucks--it's always nice to have a way to view another graphics file format.
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There are so dang many formats out there (and how 'bout that revised GIF
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format? Guess that viewgif et al. might need some revision, though I'm
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certainly not complaining, because the new GIF handles some important
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omissions, e.g. aspect ratio) that it's hard to keep up. The fellow who wrote
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view 4.0 may well have some interest in .spc files.
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#: 5994 S6/Applications
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11-Aug-90 15:11:17
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Sb: Emacs
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Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
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To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720
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Brett,
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Is is possible to implement word wrap with the version of MicroEMACS you
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uploaded to dl 6? Also, can mode be changed? One more thing: procs tells me UE
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grabs up to 32k of buffer while the internal UE buffers never add up to more
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than 13 or 14K. Which is right? Or are they both right?
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I had no problem getting the program to run on an old level two system using a
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Wyse 50 terminal... even the "cut and paste" from one window (file) to another
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(file).
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Other than that, the program works VERY nicely.
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Wendell
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p.s. I'm using it now instead of DynaStar.
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#: 5995 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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11-Aug-90 16:06:48
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Sb: #5837-#Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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I may write such a utility before this is over... Another message for me says
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that there's a version of "mv" whihc should be able to change the directory to
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a more tractable name.
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I wonder why the OS9 developers made '-' an unallowed character? It seems
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kinda strange after coming from UNIX...
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--Dwight D. McKay
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--mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu -or- ...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay
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#: 6039 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 17:12:26
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Sb: #5995-#Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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Yeah... I ran into a "-" name situation this past week. Perhaps we should hack
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(or just replace in an os9p3 module) the F$PrsNam function?
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#: 6060 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 19:42:04
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Sb: #6039-Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Kev, IMHO, hacking the "stock" F$PrsNam would not be a terrific idea, and even
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replacing it via OS9P3 might not even be too swift. I've seen programs that use
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F$PrsNam for other things besides path names. Maybe just change "rename" to
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allow nonstandard file names for the orignal file? Bill
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#: 6084 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Aug-90 04:33:17
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Sb: #6039-#Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Hi Kevin!
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This could be a good idea. I 'uucp' with 2 companies (Mark's uucp) that use
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hyphens in their (and my) name. Had to make extensive changes to Mark's uucp
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to handle this - alias files, etc.
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If you do this for OS-9/6809, will you do it for OS-9/680x0, too? And, doesn't
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that mean a new kernel?
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Ed
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#: 6087 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Aug-90 05:01:37
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Sb: #6084-Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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Naw, no new kernel. Remember that each function can be replaced individually
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under OS-9. Someone noted that F$PrsNam was used by some programs for other
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purposes and might get screwed up, but I don't see how/why. Valid names are
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valid names. "-" options elsewhere have spaces in front.
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#: 5996 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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11-Aug-90 16:06:56
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Sb: #5851-#Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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Thanks for the offer Scott. I'll try a program someone else pointed out for me
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here or I'll just hack something together to rename or delete the file. What a
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pain... :-(
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--Dwight D. McKay
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--mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu -or- ...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay
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#: 6058 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 19:41:50
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Sb: #5996-Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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A utility to rename a file with an illegal file name seems like something we
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all could use at one time or another. I'll put it on my list of MM/1 projects.
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Bill
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#: 5997 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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11-Aug-90 16:07:03
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Sb: #5863-Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723
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Thanks, I'll look for them!
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--Dwight D. McKay
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--mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu -or- ...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay
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#: 5998 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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11-Aug-90 16:07:15
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Sb: #5870-TOP UUCP woes...
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Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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I'm looking throught the uucico binary right now and I've yet to see some
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mention of an aliase or permissions file. Sigh...
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If I do get TOP UUCP to run, I'll most definately write something about what
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you need to do. I wish I had a German speaker to translate the docs...
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--Dwight D. McKay
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--mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu -or- ...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay
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#: 6001 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 20:44:01
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Sb: #5792-Sound Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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Check out my new 1.2 version for a driver that only slows down for data (much
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faster). Not sure about popping noises. I got a buzzing noise when I tried to
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add joystick capability (I take that up again in my C version.)
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-- Jim McDowell
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#: 6071 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 00:09:18
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Sb: #5792-#Sound Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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If you still want them I'll send you a copy of the musical note conversion for
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the SSC. (Just have to type it in.)
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-- Jim McDowell
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#: 6096 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 14:45:14
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Sb: #6071-Sound Master
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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That would be great! Thanks!1
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Floyd
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#: 6002 S1/General Interest
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11-Aug-90 20:49:46
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Sb: #5965-#Sound Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Tony Cappellini 76370,2104
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Not sure why you should have had out of mem problems!? But try my new version
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1.2 the driver should be more reliable than the previous one (and much faster
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too!). Also Speech? Hmmm. Perhaps relocating the driver and descriptor may
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help (long boot lists can be tricky) You shouldn't necessarily have a
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background click (unless of course the oscillator and envelope generator are
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set for that sort of thing) Let me know if you have any problems with version
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1.2.
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-- Jim McDowell
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#: 6009 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 01:36:18
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Sb: #6002-#Sound Master
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Fm: Gerry herring 71477,667
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To: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435 (X)
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yeah! i have had the same problem..with392k free, i get error 237 after it
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draws the nebu box. after it draws the menu box, it jumps out of /w7 and back
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to /term, showing error 237.
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#: 6013 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 09:39:48
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Sb: #6009-#Sound Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Gerry herring 71477,667
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Hmm sounds strange to me.... Try my new version 1.2 and also maybe you should
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try merging SndMstr and Gfx2 and Runb together before running. Other
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possibilities: Relocating the SSCART and SSC to somewhere else in the boot list
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but always make sure it is after SCF. Let me know if you still have probs.
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Send me an mdir mfree of your system also if the problem stays.
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-- Jim McDowell
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#: 6063 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 21:23:52
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Sb: #6013-Sound Master
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Fm: David Jones 76256,1223
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To: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435 (X)
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Jim, I d/l your program a few days ago and have been playing around with it. It
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work fine for me. I was wondering if you where goj going to add a joystick or
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hi-res mouse.
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Tthanks for the program.
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#: 6055 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 19:41:29
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Sb: #6009-Sound Master
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Gerry herring 71477,667
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Gerry,
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Error 237 signals a shortage of "system space" ram, NOT overall available ram
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(which is what MFREE reports.)
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In OS9 LII on the CoCo3, each process is limited to 64K, this includes the
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"system" process. Included in the 64K for the system process is the boot file.
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You may be able to make some changes to your system setup that will free up
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some more room within your system space. Unfortunately some of these changes
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might require removing something that you want! And remember every little bit
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helps, sometimes all you need to do is free up 256 bytes. You can use Kevin
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Darlings SMap utility to show used and available system space, sometimes his
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PMap is also handy. This is a partial list of things you can do:
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1. Remove something from your boot file. At first this may sound drastic, but
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analyze what is in your boot file, and think about what you actually use. Do a
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"ident -s OS9Boot" to see what is REALLY in there, sometimes there are
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duplicate modules, which take up extra space! Someone here can help you out
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with what you might be able to remove, include the output of an ident (-s
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please!) of OS9Boot or a "mdir e" in a message.
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2. Reduce the number of active processes. I used to run 4 or 5 shells all the
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time, this ate up precious system ram, so now I've cut it down to 3. Each
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process takes up at least 512 bytes.
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3. If you really don't need VDGInt, then boot into an 80 column "window" and
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remove VDGInt from your boot file (if you want to do this, ask how). Some games
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and programs require a VDG screen, so make sure you really want to do this.
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4. Don't INIZ any device unless you really have to. This way (hopefully) each
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device will only use system ram when its being used (this isn't always
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practical, and doesn't always help, sometimes Kevin's DDir and Paths utilities
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help figure out what is going on as far as open devices and system memory
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usage.
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I hope these suggestions help, feel free to ask any questions. Most of the OS9
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gurus are busy working on software for the MM/1, so don't feel slighted if it
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takes a while to get an answer!
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Bill
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#: 6073 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 00:26:23
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Sb: #6009-Sound Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Gerry herring 71477,667
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Pls read msg 6072 for solution to 207 237 errors ( at least it worked for me)
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-- Jim McDowell
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#: 6072 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 00:16:31
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Sb: #5965-Sound Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Tony Cappellini 76370,2104
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I thought more about your problem and it sounds similar to another one that I
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experienced while testing my program (Error 207 problem) The reason I got the
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error was because my SSCart and SSC were not placed properly in the boot list (
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In my case I tried just LOADing them into memory) You may have to move them
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around a little to get it right. Make sure you are actually CONFIGing and new
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disk or EZGENing it. To test whether this is the problem: When your system is
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up and running with your normal configuration and SSCART and SSC are in memory
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type -> INIZ SSC
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ECHO HI >/SSC If either of these gives a 207 or
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237 error your SSCART and SSC need to be relocated. They are not being
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accessed properly. Let me know if you still have probs.
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-- Jim McDowell
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#: 6003 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 21:28:44
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Sb: #dl10 quota
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: sysop (X)
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DL10 has exceeded it's quota. I have some uploads. Thanks.
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Zack
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#: 6006 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 22:18:59
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Sb: #6003-dl10 quota
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Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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I'll take care of that straight away Zack. Sorry for the hassle.
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#: 6007 S10/Tandy CoCo
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11-Aug-90 22:40:40
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Sb: move/message
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Fm: David Jones 76256,1223
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To: Sysop (X)
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Okay thanks, I guess just move it out of the general messages. I don't know if
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anyone reads that base very often.
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Thanks again.
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#: 6008 S1/General Interest
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11-Aug-90 23:14:08
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Sb: #5855-#CM-8
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Fm: Sunny Lowe 72447,1037
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To: Mark S 76004,373 (X)
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It also supports 320 x200x256 video also, and that is what most of my pictures
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are in. Sunny.
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#: 6036 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 17:00:06
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Sb: #6008-CM-8
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Sunny Lowe 72447,1037
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Sunny - I wouldn't risk it. VGA usually runs at 30Khz+ scan rate vs the 15Mhz
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or so of the CoCo. Running the higher rate on the CM-8 would fry it (or at
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least burn out the flyback transformer - I hear about $85 repair) very
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quickly... perhaps in seconds.
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Some VGA clone cards may go back and forth between scan rates (the ones which
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use multisync monitors), but....
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#: 6050 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 19:17:42
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Sb: #6008-CM-8
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Fm: Mark S 76004,373
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To: Sunny Lowe 72447,1037
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The 320x200 is realy 320x400 the 200 lines are double scaned. So the CM-8 will
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not work.
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#: 6010 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 04:30:26
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Sb: #TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: JAMES JONES 76257,562 (X)
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Hi James!
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During the MM1 Conference (7/25/90), you mentioned that METAFONT and Knuth's
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TeX have been ported to OSK. Where and how can I get these?
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Ed
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#: 6012 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 07:56:00
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Sb: #6010-#TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Well...one port was done by a guy in Canada named Avy Moise. I don't know how
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one would get in touch with him, but the other port was done by Peter Dibble,
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and I *do* know how to get in touch with him. Tell you what...I need to get me
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a copy of it myself, so I will do that, and then I'll upload the results. (What
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with the TOP stuff and now this, I wonder how big the OS-9/68000 section will
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get? <grin>)
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#: 6046 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 17:44:39
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Sb: #6012-TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Remind me: I think I have Avy's number around here. He did the PET 6809 os9
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port, and apparently there are still many dozens of such users up around that
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part of Canada <Toronto??>.
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#: 6059 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 19:41:59
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Sb: #6012-TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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I suspect things will change (i.e. libraries, sections, etc.) once the MM/1 and
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TC/K-Bus stuff hits the streets. I've already noticed some OS9/68000 stuff in
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libraries other than LIB 12!
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Bill
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#: 6082 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Aug-90 04:29:10
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Sb: #6012-#TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Hi James!
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Thanks - I'll be waiting for the upload. Will there be docs, too?
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re OS-9/68000 section -
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Wouldn't surprise me if we need a whole new set of libraries - maybe even a new
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SIG as more inexpensive 680x0 machines get out there.
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Ed
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#: 6088 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Aug-90 05:38:28
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Sb: #6082-TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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Dunno how much there will be in the way of docs--they may just say "go buy a
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copy of the TeXBook." More news as it happens.
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#: 6016 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 11:02:20
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Sb: #6010-#TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: Robert Heller 71450,3432
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Ed:
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Common TeX is available on BIX, but you need to get the input, font, and
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format files elsewhere. Also on BIX: a complete set of DVIxxx code. I don't
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know how well it works (I've yet to load the 5Meg of input/font/format files).
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It wants a solid meg of RAM to run - definately not for a "small" machine. (It
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won't run on my 1040ST - once the kernel et al is loaded, less than a meg is
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available - it is happy until it tries to load the format file(s) on my Force
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CPU-30.)
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Robert
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#: 6083 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Aug-90 04:31:00
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Sb: #6016-TeX, METAFONTS
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Robert Heller 71450,3432
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Hi Robert!
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I'm not on BIX.
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Yeh, memory can be a problem. I have 4 Meg and can add another 8 if I have to.
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I understand the users in Germany (the ST is very popular there) were plagued
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with memory problems, too. They were going to do something about it. Don't
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know if they did.
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Ed
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#: 6015 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 10:59:27
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Sb: #5931-#BIOS
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Fm: Paul Kacprowicz 72057,345
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To: David Jones 76256,1223 (X)
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If you haven't already received an answer to your question on how to disable
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the BIOS ROM, here is some info I received from Burke & Burke (nearly 2 years
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ago) that should do the trick.
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...."To disable the ROM, simply remove jumper W3 on the hard disk controller
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board. Please note that removing the ROM will not disable it due to address
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buffers on the circuit board. If you are unable to disable the ROM by removing
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jumper W3, cut the connection to pin B12 of the 62 pin connector on the CoCo XT
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and solder a wire between pins B12 and B11."....
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I had to use the alternate method since my controller (WDXT-GEN) did not have a
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W3 jumper. Be aware that the pins on the 62-pin side of the CoCo XT are
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numbered consecutively, unlike the 40-pin side with odd/even numbers on
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opposing sides. The "A" pins are on the component side and "A1" & "A31" are
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marked. "B" pins (unmarked) are on the reverse with "B1" directly under "A1".
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You mentioned a "powered" Y-cable, so I assume you're aware of the need to
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supply 12v to the controller. If you are using an *old* RS floppy controller
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you may also need to modify that since they were not fully decoded and respond
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to the addresses $FF50-$FF53 which the CoCo XT needs.
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Paul
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#: 6023 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 11:54:41
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Sb: #6015-BIOS
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Fm: David Jones 76256,1223
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To: Paul Kacprowicz 72057,345 (X)
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thank you very much,I didn't think anyone knew what I was trying to do with
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this. I have a CRC/DISTO SCII with 3 in 1 board,and My y-cable has 12volts..
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again thanks.
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#: 6018 S15/Hot Topics
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12-Aug-90 11:29:44
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Sb: #5409-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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OK Mark. Well as I said, "I hope I don't HAVE to," and will certainly try not
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to POKE the I/O and such. And I will certainly warn others of the consequences
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in portability and the hazards -- thanks for reminding me about the "Level 1"
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vulerability.
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So far I've worked it out with the MM/1 hardware folks that honest /MIDI device
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drivers will permit not only playing, but even recording, with no funny
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business. So yes, you can count on my support.
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The trick is to support each other into getting the HW/SW developers of the MM1
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to put in the system routines that will make it un-attractive to cheat.
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BTW, UltiMusE-III "cheats" in only one place -- writing directly to the serial
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and parallel MIDI ports on the Coco3. Everything else is system calls. VDG
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screens are "legit" too (tho I don't want to rewrite all that grafix code for
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the MM/1, and Kev D already has it to the point where I don't need to.)
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Say, thyanks for the flattery -- it works, grin. --mike k Hope to meet you in
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Atlanta -- you going?
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#: 6066 S15/Hot Topics
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12-Aug-90 22:04:50
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Sb: #6018-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Mike,
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Hmmmm....it's been so long since I left that message I almost forgot what you
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were talking about (grin).
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Yeah, I'd like to meet you too. Don't know if I'll be in Atlanta, but I am
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certainly going to try.
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Mark
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#: 6022 S15/Hot Topics
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12-Aug-90 11:49:30
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Sb: #5527-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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OK -- VARPTRT is called ADDR. Yes, Kev D points out that PEEK/POKE don't get
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much use. It's a tribute to OS9's sys calls that you don't need them much, but
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they are there if someone wants to [ab-]use them. I see C's libraries as a
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strenght -- choose the one(s) you want. Maintainability is kept thru shared
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header files (DEFs style), something B09 sorely lacks. Of course some
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discipline and good style are needed, or C can turn into assembly-grade mess.
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But then look how many big porograms have been done fine in assembler (like our
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favorite OS, grin). --mike k
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#: 6021 S15/Hot Topics
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12-Aug-90 11:44:35
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Sb: #5524-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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OK Bill. Global vars in B09 require some big sttrucutre (oops, TYPE) that you
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pass as an arg to every procedure. But you're right, with all those structured
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Basics popping up on the PCs, it's nice to brag that we were there long before.
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I just find B09 awkward to wrok with. Probably could improve my attitude a LOT
|
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by using a real editor in another window, re-LOADing each fix, instead of
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messing with the built-in editor.
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Seriously, Microware really should update that editor for fullscreen. But if
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you use it only for quick fixes, what the heck.
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B09 desparately needs an an "include" or "Use" file thingie so TYPEs can be
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defined the same in all procedures. Also Microware should do a compiler from
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I-code to binary -that would give the PC crowd a run for their money. --mike k
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#: 6035 S15/Hot Topics
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12-Aug-90 16:53:13
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Sb: #6021-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Mike - I'm with you on the "include/use" thingie for B09.
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A while back I meant to find the editor section of basic, and add a fullscreen
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option. Guess we should take another look at trying that. Also had planned a
|
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different approach: adding some kind of weird mode to SCFman's I$ReadLn routine
|
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(over and above the fancier line editing) which would know to do a "-" to go up
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one line and a ">cr<" to go down one, etc. Thx for reminder.
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#: 6019 S4/MIDI and Music
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12-Aug-90 11:36:40
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Sb: #5519-midi help
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Lester Hands 70135,430
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Yeah, you can just *buy* SW for MS-doggies. I think you said you could get
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ready-made grafix routines to do the screen stuff for you on the PCs. You
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writing in C, or assembler? Which grafix modes (EGA, CGA) do you support?
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Second City pulled their ads during the slow summer months to save money. Lots
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of folks got the wrong idea tho, so I don't think Ed will ever do that again!
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I never had any trouble with the phone numbers, tho.
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I'm about to get an MM/1. Sheesh, I just wish the Coco3 had come out a year or
|
|
two sooner for that matter. Anyway, the chips in the MM/1 weren't even around
|
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till a year ago.
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It's mostly OS9 that's kept me from going to Atari or Amiga or even the DOGs in
|
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the last couple years. No I can have my cake & eat it too. (that's Now I
|
|
can...).
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Say, didn't Speech Systems go to Amiga? Is Rich Parry still in biz? --mike k
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#: 6020 S4/MIDI and Music
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12-Aug-90 11:38:50
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Sb: #5520-midi help
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Lester Hands 70135,430
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Glad you agree. My MT-32 takes a while to get its ducks in a row if you hit it
|
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with a few patch changes just before a big chord. Seems synths are going the
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way of computers -- get more and more complex, and slower and slower asnd hard
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to figure out. --mike k
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#: 6105 S4/MIDI and Music
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13-Aug-90 20:55:03
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Sb: #5902-midi help
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Lester Hands 70135,430
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Lester,
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Thanks for the vote of confidence! Sure, OS/2 is a drag. Windows 3.0 DOES go
|
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some way to relieve that problem, and it may end up supplanting DOS altogether,
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becoming an interface/OS sort of like MacOS is an interface/OS.
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Paul
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Naturally, we have something MUCH BETTER than Windows 3.0 in the works.
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#: 6024 S4/MIDI and Music
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12-Aug-90 11:55:51
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Sb: #5688-#Ultimusic Bit banger
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)
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Hi Denise. Sometimes I wonder if the rhythms are right-on myself. Yes, others
|
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have asked for a rhtym on-off inclusion, but I haven't done it yet -- have
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added other nice goodies instead, byut will work on it. MIDI Events also in
|
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the work queue, but not much yet.
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I can't tell a real big difference between the MIDI Pak and serial cable, tho
|
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in theory the Pak should be better. Especially if you use the /MIDI driver
|
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mode. Lots of folks have diuscussed building MIDI paks out of RS232 or Modem
|
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packs, and some have built from scratch, but I don't have a ready set of plans.
|
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You might first see what kind of deal you can get from Rulaford Research or
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Intercomp Sound in Rochester, NY on the Pak without any software. Best wishes,
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mike k
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#: 6032 S4/MIDI and Music
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12-Aug-90 15:31:00
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Sb: #6024-Ultimusic Bit banger
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Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Mike, It just sounds like the rhythm track is slowing to stay in sync with the
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microprocessor. If you know what I mean. Slight hesatations (very slight) but I
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notice them. Kind of like the statement that time sharing through the bit
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banger dosen't work very well with various programs under os9. It works the
|
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best with the Multipak for timesharing. Is this what may be happening when
|
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playing midi through the Bit Banger?
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#: 6025 S4/MIDI and Music
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12-Aug-90 12:11:10
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Sb: #5933-help
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Gilles Conte 73357,1103 (X)
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There is not now a MIDI recorder in OS9. I used to think it was inmpossible on
|
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the Coco3 (without a lot of cheating), but now have an idea how to do it, so am
|
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slowly working on it. Absolutely no promises pr schedules, tho. Also doing
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anything wiht the recorded hand-playing, other than just playing it back, takes
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some doing too. --mike k
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#: 6026 S4/MIDI and Music
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12-Aug-90 12:13:54
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Sb: #5934-help
|
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete, there is also an MT32 patch editor called "MTPanel" on here. I DL'ed it a
|
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couple years ago and didn't test it much, but it seemed to work. Decent use of
|
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80x24 text windows on the Coco3.
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To get a patch or sample dump on demand from a synth, you can cheat out OS9
|
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just long enuf to snarf up the data. As opposed to recording hand playing,
|
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where you tie up things for minutes at a time. --mike k
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#: 6027 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 12:57:39
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Sb: BIOS
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Fm: David Jones 76256,1223
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To: Paul Kacprowicz 72057,345 (X)
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Paul, I cut the jumper w3 out,Now I can use the floppies,before,all I got was
|
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the ext-basic signon message. Os9 still wont boot,so I cut the line at b12,and
|
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put a jumper between pins b12 b11, this still doesn't work. I went back to make
|
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sure I posted the right # for the controller. It is a WD1002s-WX28,would this
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be any diffrent?
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Let me know.
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Dave
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#: 6028 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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12-Aug-90 13:13:31
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Sb: #remote login question
|
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: ALL
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I am in the process of setting up my OS9 Level 2 system up for remote logins
|
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using the standard tsmon/login package. I have a strange situation, though.
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I have patched SHell+ V2.0 so that my shell prompt is "What now? ". notice the
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space in between "What" and "now", and the space after the "?". This was done
|
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by putting a $06 at those locations in the binary.
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My problem is this. When I login to device /t2 through tsmon/login the $06 is
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not interpeted as a space, but as a null character, so my shell prompt becomes
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"Whatnow?", with no spaces at all.
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Any way around this?
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Zack
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#: 6030 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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12-Aug-90 14:06:12
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Sb: #6028-#remote login question
|
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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I'm confused (Mark: So what else is new?).
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Why $06? Wouldn't $20 be a space? What have I missed?
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Steve
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#: 6052 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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12-Aug-90 19:25:56
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Sb: #6030-#remote login question
|
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
|
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I first tried a space. When I patched the prompt to be "What now? " with $20 in
|
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the two space locations, I get the prompt "What". It became apparent that the
|
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FIRST space encountered signalled the end of the prompt string. I forget who,
|
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but someone recommended using a $06 where I wanted imbedded spaces, tried it
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and it works. Only not with device /T2. Works fine in VDG and regular window
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devices, though.
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So, any ideas?
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Zack
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#: 6067 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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12-Aug-90 22:04:59
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Sb: #6052-remote login question
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Zack,
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Interesting.....a $06 is an ACK, so maybe something is eating it on your remote
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end. You might try changing it to an $A0 since that is a space with the MSB
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set. Maybe the other end will just strip the high bit and leave you with
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showing a real $20. Of course, on your CoCo it'll show as a dot ".".
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Reminds me of the time years ago when someone said Tandy was selling CoCos in
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Canada with the "OK" prompt changed to "Eh?". Bruce Isted will appreciate
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this (grin).
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Mark
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#: 6093 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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13-Aug-90 12:05:20
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Sb: #6052-remote login question
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Zack -
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I used to use the underscore ('_')...
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Pete
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#: 6056 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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12-Aug-90 19:41:35
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Sb: #6028-#remote login question
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Zack,
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Probably your terminal (or terminal emulation software if using another
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computer) is throwing the $06 away, have you tried other values, like $20 (as
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Steve suggested)?
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Bill
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#: 6064 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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12-Aug-90 21:58:39
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Sb: #6056-remote login question
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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As I mentioned, $20 would work fine for "normal" VTxxx terminal emulation, but
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it doesn't work for standard window devices locally. When I used $20 as the
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imbedded spaces, I got a prompt of "What". The FIRST apces signals the "end of
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the prompt string". Since I use my system more locally, I will probably leave
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it like it is for now.
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Zack
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#: 6029 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 13:51:06
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Sb: #CART INTERRUP
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Fm: CHUCK OSTERBY 73766,374
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To: [F] All
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TO: SYSOP RE: OS-9 CART INTERRUPT
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I PURCHASED SUBLOGICS FLIGHT SIMULATOR II AND HAVE GREAT TROUBLE LOADING IT.
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HAVE CONTACTED SUBLOGLIC WHO WERE VERY QUICK IN REPL REPLACING THE ORIGINAL
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DISK. THIS DID NOT HELP THE PROBLEM AND NO ONE AT SUB LOGIC SEEMS TO BE AWARE
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OF THE CART INTERRUPT PROBLEM MENTION IN A RECENT ISSUE OF RAINBOW. SYMPTOMS
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ARE: IENTER DOS COMMAND AND GET THE OS 9 BOOT MESSAGE. NO PROBLEM. AFTER THE
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SCREEN GIVES ME THE OS 9 LEVEL II VER 2.00.01 MESSAGE AND THE FLIGHT SIMULATOR
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BEGINS TO LOAD, THE SCREEN WILL FREEZE AND I WILL SEE HORIZONTAL WHITE STREAKS
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ABOUT 2 INCHES LONG AND ONE OR TWO SCAN LINES HIGH FLASHING ACROSS MY SCREEN.
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NOTHING FURTHER WILL HAPPEN UNTIL I PRESS H PRESS THE RESET BUTTON WHEN I AGAIN
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RECIEVE THE OS9 BOOT MESSAGE. AFTER 8 TO 27 ATTEMPTS, THE GAME WILL LOAD AND
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OPERATE. ONLY ONCE IN AWHILE WILL IT FREEZE WHILE THE SIMULATION IS RUNNING. IS
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THERE ANY CURE???
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#: 6086 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 04:58:42
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Sb: #6029-CART INTERRUP
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: CHUCK OSTERBY 73766,374
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Chuck -
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Flight Sim shouldn't be affected by the CART IRQ stuff. It uses internally
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generated (software) interrupts instead.
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I take it that you're booting from their stock straight-to-game disk?
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If so, it sounds perhaps more like a disk drive alignment or read problem, to
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me. Is there a friend close by whose system you could try it on? Many of us
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have really old disk drives nowadays, and they get weak over time (and out of
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wack).
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Try cleaning up the disk controller contacts, multipak contacts, anywhere you
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have a cable or plugin. If that doesn't work then I'd try to test it with
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another drive (perhaps take your 512K coco down to a RS store).
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Keep us informed as to your progress. Luck! - Kev
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#: 6031 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 14:12:53
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Sb: #UG and PLAN9!
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Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
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To: darling
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Kev - two things. Could you make the UG aware of the APL files I have uploaded,
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and indeed give them a copy if necessary. (APLRTS.AR APLSRC.AR in dl3? and
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VT220FNT.AR in dl6). Second gues what? The latest and greatest operating system
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out of BELL LABS by Thompsone,
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Thompson, Ritchie, Kernighan etc is called ...... PLAN 9!!!
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#: 6077 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 00:39:22
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Sb: #6031-UG and PLAN9!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
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Greg - Sounds good! The UG will still need one of those signed forms, tho.
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Apparently it has been necessary at least once in the distant past to prove
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that a submittal was PD, so we can't get around it.
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Reminds me to start a push for everyone here (me too - sheepish grin) to send
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their work to the UG librarian so we can get help and programs out to the
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electronically unconnected people.
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Plan 9?!!! Really? They can't do that! <grin> That's our own secret
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operation. Any word on its features? thx! - kev
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PS: you still using that gfx board you sent me docs on waaay back when? Might
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as well port my windows to it, too, eh?
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#: 6033 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 15:38:11
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Sb: #/nil driver
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Fm: Dan Charrois 70721,1506
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To: all
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Where might I find the /nil driver and descriptor? Is there a copy of it
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somewhere on CIS??
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Thanks... Dan
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#: 6047 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:48:55
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Sb: #6033-#/nil driver
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Dan Charrois 70721,1506 (X)
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Dan - I'm about to post one, if there's not one already. Standby.
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#: 6062 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 20:30:16
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Sb: #6047-/nil driver
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Fm: Dan Charrois 70721,1506
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Thanks, Kev, for your posting of the /nil driver.
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#: 6034 S6/Applications
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12-Aug-90 16:50:39
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Sb: #ue and termcap
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Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
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To: 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete - I have tried to run the new ue uploaded recently. If i have a file
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called "ttytype" in my /dd/sys ue runs but does not display or handle keyboard
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correctly. If i rename the file ttytypes it tells me "unknown tty line!" the
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contents of the file (in either case) is: term vt52 t1 vt52 What do you
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suggest?
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 6090 S6/Applications
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13-Aug-90 08:11:55
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Sb: #6034-ue and termcap
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
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Greg -
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The /dd/sys/ttytype file should be in the format:
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/Term vt100
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/T1 wyse50
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/t3 coco3
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...etc...
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No leading spaces, either. Also - do you have a termcap file in /dd/sys, and
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does it have a matching terminal entry for a vt52? Pete
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#: 6037 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 17:06:12
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Sb: #5859-OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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That's the truth! We've also often commented about how lovely the wives and
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girlfriends of OS9 users are... gotta be something about this OS <grin>!
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#: 6038 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 17:10:29
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Sb: #5862-OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723
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Heh-heh. A coupla people called me up afterwards, and said "Yep, sounds just
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like you on the phone". Change [omitted] to [expletive deleted] a la Nixon,
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and you'll see. That's what comes from being a Staff Sergeant in the Army at
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one time <grin>. Ah me.
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I'd thought that Scott would just print a couple of paragraphs distilled... had
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no idea most (but not all... as he said, about 30minutes were lost on his tape
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at the end) would go in. Otherwise, yes, I would've spoken more uhhhhh
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carefully <hehe>.
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#: 6040 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:22:11
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Sb: #5889-#MV and Eliminator
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)
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Thx for reminder. Just got back from a week-long trip around the country. I'll
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be sure to ask Kent Meyers what the deal is with GPort.
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#: 6070 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 00:08:58
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Sb: #6040-MV and Eliminator
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Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Thanks I am real curious about that. JS
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#: 6041 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:26:19
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Sb: #5893-New gfx2
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
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Thanks Wayne! You meant grfdrv, not gfx2, yah? Grfdrv had some orphan
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(unused) code left in it where they obviously meant to speed up horizontal line
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draws by setting entire bytes (instead of just pixels which could be half bytes
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or even single bits in 2-color mode, right?) whenever possible... like on a
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longer line run. All I did was, well, throw out their stuff and write my own
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version of what they had intended to do <grin>.
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Vertical lines always set the same bit positions within a byte, and so were
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already inherently as fast as they could go. If that makes sense ;-)
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#: 6042 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:28:59
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Sb: #5906-#NIL & NILDRV
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
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|
Hugo - I would've thought that there was a Nil driver in the libs here... but
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maybe not. Seems like someone else asked the same thing not long ago. I believe
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(could be wrong) that the original Rainbow Guide had one. Or was that Dibble's
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OS9 Notes? Hmmm. Anyway, lemme rummage around.
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#: 6049 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:57:19
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Sb: #6042-NIL & NILDRV
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Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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The reason I asked for /NIL and NILDRV was that a friend was having trouble
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with his. He was using the Level I version and thought it wasn't compatible
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with Level II. It turns out the 2 versions are exactly the same. So his
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problems seem to stem from the BLOB. He has reaaranged his bootlist, and so far
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things are OK.
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Hugo
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#: 6053 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 19:29:40
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Sb: #6042-NIL & NILDRV
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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I got my nil device and driver with the Dev Pack. But surely something as us
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useful and commonly needed as these something could be made available to the
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PD.
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Zack
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ps, Welcome back!
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#: 6043 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:36:09
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Sb: #5953-#Windint
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545 (X)
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Hi Phil - It may be a problem in cc3io, where it chooses windows. I'll try to
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take a look... I think others have mentioned similar troubles. Methinks that a
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different Select sequence in the program fixes it. back later.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 6103 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 19:52:35
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Sb: #6043-Windint
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Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Thanks a bunch Kev--Your new GFX2 is great and I really want to utilize it.
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I'll be looking forward to your findings.
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#: 6044 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 17:39:25
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Sb: #5962-#Privledges in BASIC09
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: steve Crump 71550,3115 (X)
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Hey Steve - maybe there's a mistake in using syscall? (you know, stuff we all
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do like using the wrong number for a statcall?) Can you email or post here a
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sample of the call where you get an error? Which F$xxx gives it to you?
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 6095 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 12:30:53
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Sb: #6044-#Privledges in BASIC09
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Fm: steve Crump 71550,3115
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Kevin,
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You are right. Stupid little error. I was attempting to write my
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BASIC09 code more like C-Code so I made the following declaration:
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F_AllRam=$39
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I forgot BASIC09 assumes all Un-Dimensionalized varaibles as REAL.
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So I passed syscall a real when it wanted an Integer or Byte.
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It just grabbed the first two byte of the floating point number
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which must have contain a nonexistant System Call number.
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That does lead me to another question though, is there a way to
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relatively easily convert floating point reals to longs (4 byte
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integers) or integers in an ML program. I understand some about
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floating point numbers but not enougherstand how to convert
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between the two. I wish the Poel RMA Library had included some
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floating point number routines.
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Steve Crump
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[71550,3115]
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 6100 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 15:56:37
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Sb: #6095-Privledges in BASIC09
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: steve Crump 71550,3115
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Steve - yah, I do that all the time myself. Whenever a basic09/syscall program
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doesn't work for me, I first go back and check to make sure I wasn't passing a
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path number as a real, or an Integer to a Byte var, etc.
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I don't know of any float->int/long stuff around. To a 2-byte Int I just let
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Basic09 do it (Ints are 4 bytes under Basic/68K). I'll ask around, tho.
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kev
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#: 6045 S3/Languages
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12-Aug-90 17:42:43
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Sb: #5948-#Password functions
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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> Apparently something is not getting reset in endpwent() ???
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That is exactly the problem. Do you want the patch, fixed source, or a fixed
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library? I think Pete added some stuff and put it up here after my last
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release. I don't find any sources for that and my memory is really rusty on
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it, but I didn't want to drop a new library up here without being sure.
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Carl
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#: 6068 S3/Languages
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12-Aug-90 22:05:01
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Sb: #6045-#Password functions
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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Carl,
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Sheeesh, I dunno. I'm not sure what Pete did with the sources. I volunteered
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to keep them. I guess the best thing to do is get Pete in on this and see
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where we stand. Pete????
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One thought, can you make an Ipatch file and upload that? This way everyone
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will be able to get the patch with minimal effort.
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Mark
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#: 6094 S3/Languages
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13-Aug-90 12:16:46
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Sb: #6068-Password functions
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Mark/Carl -
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I have backups of the sources (which I cannot read until the MM/1 arrives), and
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I have Carl's original disks as well.
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I think the concept of patch files for the library may be best.
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Pete
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#: 6085 S3/Languages
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13-Aug-90 04:34:40
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Sb: #6045-Password functions
|
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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Hi Carl!
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I don't know the history, but I'd suggest a new library (maybe patches for
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those whoe don't want to download a new file).
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Just my $.02.
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Ed
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#: 6051 S1/General Interest
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12-Aug-90 19:24:45
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Sb: #Video DAC
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Fm: Mark S 76004,373
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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BTW Kev, Have you seen the Edson Video DAC technology. If Not you should Its
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one of the most impressive devices I have seen in a long time.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 6078 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 00:40:24
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Sb: #6051-#Video DAC
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Mark S 76004,373 (X)
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No sir, sure haven't. What's the video DAC stuff special about?
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 6089 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 07:26:35
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Sb: #6078-#Video DAC
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Fm: Mark S 76004,373
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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This device does not use a color look up table. It has an on chip DSP that can
|
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taylor the color signal into a wated function. This give the apperence of 4
|
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times the resolution. It anti-alising characteristics are unreal. And its not
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expensive either.
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#: 6099 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 15:51:32
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Sb: #6089-#Video DAC
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Mark S 76004,373 (X)
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Wild! So are pixels still presented to it in the normal manner from video
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memory? But the output can be set to smoothly go between colors, if wished,
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etc? How inexpensive is it? Thanks for keeping us up to date on stuff!
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#: 6102 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 19:06:37
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Sb: #6099-#Video DAC
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Fm: Mark S 76004,373
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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The Data in memory is modified to look up a different pixel type depending what
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is on either side of it. But you build that into the mappng routine itself. The
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DAC has what amounts to 750,000 colors due to the effect. Its about a $50 in
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small quanites. If you dont turn this mode on it acts just like a standard DAC.
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But if your building a windowing system you build the tranlation for the DAC
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into in and your set. Its going to eat about 10% of your cycles to do it but
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thats cheep compaired to other anti-alising techniques.
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#: 6104 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 20:28:04
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Sb: #6102-Video DAC
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Mark S 76004,373
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Fascinating. Sounds like a variation of the amiga HAM or the cd-i DYUV, in some
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respects. I'll send off for the docs. Thx again! The new machines all have
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palette expansion headers, so this stuff could be used.
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#: 6054 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 19:34:40
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Sb: Fractals
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: ALL
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Anyone interested in Fractals should check out my latest uploads, zoom.ar,
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zoom1.ar, and zoom2.ar in DL10.
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Zack
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#: 6057 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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12-Aug-90 19:41:44
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Sb: #5976-TOP - Munich Release 2.0
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Ed,
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FYI, while the sysops don't mind a request to delete a file, you can request
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that a file be deleted (if you uploaded it!) by typing ERA at the library
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"Disposition !" prompt. In most forums the sysops will ask you to make sure you
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really want to delete a file.
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Also, if you upload a file with the same name, the system will delete the
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original file when the sysop enables the new file. You can also update the
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keywords and description by typing CHA at the "Disposition !" prompt.
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Unfortunately you can't rename a file, but a sysop can. (You may have known all
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this already, but it might help someone else.)
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Bill
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#: 6061 S10/Tandy CoCo
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12-Aug-90 20:03:46
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Sb: Member.AR
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: All
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I have just re-uploaded Members.AR to DL10.
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The original Memberdir program only allocated the default of 32 chars for the
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Name and PPN and I have since found out that this is not quite long enough for
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those I.D.'s that include 'titles' in them.
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If you don't wish to re-download the whole thing, this bug may be corrected
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by changing the 2 DIM statements that contain "name$" and name_array() to
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STRING[40] from just STRING and re-'pack'ing.
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At the same time, Tele.B09 has been enhanced to allow passing it an input
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parameter to search for.
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...Jim
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#: 6074 S15/Hot Topics
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13-Aug-90 00:32:43
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Sb: #5869-#CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Kevin Pease 70516,1633
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Ed as soon as I get a chance I will upload the executable to you. As a side
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note I got the MM/1 with fast memory to run 1050 drystones/sec which is real
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close to what the PT68K at 12.5 mhz ran.
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Kevin Pease
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#: 6081 S15/Hot Topics
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13-Aug-90 04:27:12
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Sb: #6074-CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Kevin Pease 70516,1633
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Sounds real good - Now we need Frank to run the test on his machine.
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I'll await your upload.
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Ed
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#: 6075 S1/General Interest
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13-Aug-90 00:38:44
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Sb: #5921-I'm a new member
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: TOSHIAKI MATSUO 74060,2030
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Greetings! Welcome to the forum. We are very interested in the Japanese OS-9
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community.
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What kind of computers do you own? Is OS-9 used in your work?
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We look forward to hearing from you again. best - Kevin
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#: 6076 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 00:39:05
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Sb: #5916-#Basic09 Windows
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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Floyd - you were simply giving too many parameters... a dwset to the same
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screen does not take a border color parameter (only the original window needs
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this). So try:
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PROCEDURE W3test
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DIM uleft,uright:BYTE
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RUN gfx2("dwend")
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RUN gfx2(1,"dwset",8,0,12,40,12,0,2,2)
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RUN gfx2(1,"select")
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OPEN #uleft,"/w"
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OPEN #uright,"/w"
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RUN gfx2(uleft,"dwset",0,0,0,20,12,2,0)
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RUN gfx2(uright,"dwset",0,20,0,20,12,2,0)
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PRINT #uleft,"Upper Left"
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PRINT #uright,"Upper Right"
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#: 6097 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 14:47:06
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Sb: #6076-Basic09 Windows
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Oh! Thanks. It probably says that in the manual somewhere, doesn't it? By
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the way, whatever happened with the OS9 version of Kyum Gai?
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Floyd
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#: 6079 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 02:14:25
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Sb: #5923-help
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Gilles Conte 73357,1103 (X)
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Gilles -
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I think most people use Bob Santy's modified CC3Disk driver module. To make it
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from a stock L-II cc3disk, you'll need:
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Lib 10 - PATCH.AR (the IPatch command)
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CC3DIS.AR
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To use that new driver to read/write PC disks, get:
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Lib 10 - PCDOS.AR
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Lib 9 - DMODE.AR (you may already have this)
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And to dearc at least the older arc'd PC files use:
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Lib 9 - DEARC.BIN
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Yell if need help or have Q's. - kev
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#: 6080 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 02:22:23
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Sb: #5972-RS Catalog for 1991
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Fm: mike wafkowski 72245,126
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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It's not in the '91 computer catalog--<MW>
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#: 6091 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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13-Aug-90 09:57:55
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Sb: #5973-We're in Beta!
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Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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I could - have to ask about just how much I could say. I'll see what my boss
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says.
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#: 6092 S7/Telecommunications
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13-Aug-90 10:04:19
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Sb: #5975-MUYX BOX
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Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
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To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
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Greg,
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If you work for AT&T in a Digital Central Office, you'll be getting one within
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the next year (like it or not). It replaces the "DCO-PNI" and is called "RAPP".
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If not, you'll never see one unless you purchase AT&T DACS frames and your
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company arranges to have them and their facilities supported by the AT&T
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Network Operations. It's not something we plan to sell, but will be used
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internally only. There will be a total of about 300 made.
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FWIW, we passed our soak in the testing lab this past week and go to Beta in
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the White Plains, NY Digital Central Office tomorrow (tuesday).
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Mark
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#: 6098 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 14:50:54
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Sb: #Decimal to Hex
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: All
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What is the easiest way to convert decimal numbers to hex in Basic09? I know
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that PRINT USING will do that but I need the result in a variable (string, of
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course). So how do I do it?
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#: 6101 S10/Tandy CoCo
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13-Aug-90 17:06:18
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Sb: #6098-Decimal to Hex
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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Floyd -
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The simplest way is to write a subroutine that divides by hex column weights:
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4096, 256, 16, and 1 (using that order, and only using the remainder of the
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previous operation).
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Pete
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#: 6106 S3/Languages
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13-Aug-90 21:14:11
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Sb: #F$CpyMem Question
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: ALL
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I'm trying to use an F$CpyMem _os9() call in C. Only problem is, how do I load
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Reg D from a char pointer when all I have is rg_a and rg_b to work with?
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#: 6108 S3/Languages
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13-Aug-90 21:31:09
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Sb: #6106-F$CpyMem Question
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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Depends on how they're laid out in memory--though actually, that's only true if
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you do something rather sleazy. The non-sleazy way is to recall that A is the
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most significant byte of D, B the least significant (do me a favor and don't
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tell Ms. Methvin that I didn't say "more significant" and "less significant"
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even though only two things were being compared, OK? <grin>), so if you cast
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your char * to an int, do something like
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regs.rg_a = ((int) cp) >> 8; regs.rg_b = ((int) cp) & 0xff;
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to get what you're after.
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#: 6109 S3/Languages
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13-Aug-90 22:29:21
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Sb: #6106-F$CpyMem Question
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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Zack -
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Not sure I understand the question, but what about:
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rg_d = rg_a << 8 | rg_b;
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Pete
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#: 6110 S7/Telecommunications
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13-Aug-90 22:32:46
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Sb: RAPP
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Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
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To: 74030,332
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mark - I dont work for AT&T. My telco is a canadian one. we do however have 2
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or 3 AT&T DACS's (DACS II's with ver 3 of the s/w I doubt however that from
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what you have said we would be buying a "RAPP", but should i ask my AT&T
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salesman about it? - Greg
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