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The OS-9 Forum Read Menu
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#: 3571 S10/Tandy CoCo
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18-May-90 19:14:50
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Sb: #3567-#Break key
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545 (X)
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Phil - as Pete said, an ON ERROR command will catch the Break key... but only
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once the program is packed. Otherwise basic09 assumes you're stopping the
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program run, which makes sense during testing.
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#: 3627 S10/Tandy CoCo
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20-May-90 14:00:55
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Sb: #3571-#Break key
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Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Thanks Kev--By the way how are things going for MM1 and Tomcat??
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#: 3631 S10/Tandy CoCo
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20-May-90 17:04:35
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Sb: #3627-Break key
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545 (X)
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They're both going okay, Phil. Slowly but surely <grin>.
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#: 3626 S10/Tandy CoCo
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20-May-90 13:59:09
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Sb: #3568-#Break key
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Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Thanks for the reply Pete!!
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#: 3644 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 10:19:04
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Sb: #3626-Break key
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545 (X)
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No problem Phil... let us know if you run into any obstacles.
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Pete
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#: 3573 S10/Tandy CoCo
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18-May-90 21:14:13
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Sb: #3566-#2nd Hard Drive Help
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: JC Hoit 73127,2213 (X)
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You had to remove the terminating resistor, but you are right, you also need to
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jumper it right also. I don't have a 213, I have a 225 and a 21-1, and they
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both have a small jumper pad at the back. The come jumpered as drive 0, so I
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just moved the jumper on the drive which was going to be /h1 over one position.
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Zack
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#: 3575 S10/Tandy CoCo
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18-May-90 21:58:04
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Sb: #3573-#2nd Hard Drive Help
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Fm: JC Hoit 73127,2213
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Something is still amiss. I did move that jumper over one spot. Played all
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evening with different cable settings and jumper settings and whether the
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terminating resistor was in /h0 or not. No success. I am beginning to think
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that this controller is just what I want. It is a larger WD1002S-WX2. Maybe it
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isn't 100% compatable. Only 97.3%.
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JCH
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#: 3579 S10/Tandy CoCo
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18-May-90 22:40:42
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Sb: #3575-2nd Hard Drive Help
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: JC Hoit 73127,2213 (X)
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Yeah, that might be it. WD controllers can be had for $50-$60. Good luck!
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Zack
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#: 3574 S10/Tandy CoCo
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18-May-90 21:23:12
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Sb: #3566-#2nd Hard Drive Help
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: JC Hoit 73127,2213 (X)
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JC,
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On the ST-213 drive there is a set of jumpers located next to the 34 pin edge
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card connector. The two pins (one on top of the other) right next to the
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connector should already have a jumper between them. This sets the drive up as
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drive 0. What you need to do is move that jumper one over to set it up as
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drive 1.
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As for the terminating resistors, it depends mostly on the controller and drive
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combination whether or not any are needed. About 6 or 7 years ago, most drive
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controllers and drives needed one to be there at the end of the "chain".
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Nowadays, most controller/drive combinations really don't care. The name
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"terminating" resistor is misleading, much the same as it is on SCSI busses.
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They're really nothing more than pull-up resistors to insure, get this, that
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the logic levels on the lines drop (yes, not rise) to 0.
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If you follow the advise that most people give, that you need at least one on
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the last drive, you can't go wrong. I've never seen a situation where having
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one caused problems...although I have seen situations where only one didn't
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work right and two were needed.
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BTW: Since you are going to have two hard drives, you might want to look into
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getting my hard disk backup program in DL9. It works pretty good as an
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automatic backup utility from the "main" drive to the second on. If you also
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have Pete's CRON utility, you can set it up to automatically do an incremental
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backup of your /h0 drive to /h1 in the middle of the night. It sure is nice to
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know all your work is backed up for you.
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Mark
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#: 3576 S10/Tandy CoCo
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18-May-90 22:02:58
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Sb: #3574-2nd Hard Drive Help
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Fm: JC Hoit 73127,2213
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Hi, Mark. The Miniscribe (/h0) barfs all over the place when I take the
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resistor out. And it isn't changing my success one way or the other. I did move
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the jumper over one. As I said in the message to Zack, I am suspecting the
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controller being a little off beat. I am going to stop wasting my time on this
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one and locate one that B&B suggests.
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I will definitely try your HD utilities when I get this hardware straightened
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out. I spotted it earlier and it looked interesting.
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Thanx, JCH
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#: 3577 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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18-May-90 22:03:50
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Sb: #3564-#No' Carolina
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Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Jim,
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Lake Wheeler ring a bell? I believe that's the one you are looking at.
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Dan
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#: 3588 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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19-May-90 11:50:53
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Sb: #3577-#No' Carolina
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Dan Robins 73007,2473 (X)
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~ Dan;
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Umm.. don't see a Wheeler Lake on this map. Looks like it might be Jordan
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lake - highway 64 appears to cross it at the southern end.
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Time to get a more detailed map, I'd say!
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Thanks,
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...Jim
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#: 3640 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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20-May-90 23:25:31
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Sb: #3588-No' Carolina
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Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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Well..
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Lessee....Jordan is quite a bit farther away (say 25 miles or so) and is
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also near a town called Apex. Lake Wheeler though is with 10 minutes of my
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house so that is why I thought you were thinking of it.
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Jordan is much nicer for fishing and boating that Lake Wheeler though.
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Dan
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#: 3578 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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18-May-90 22:06:24
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Sb: #3565-No' Carolina
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Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Kevvy,
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Just call me the Lake man...right? <grrrr> (grin)
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Actually, he's thinking of Lake Wheeler. The only reason I know that for a
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fact is when my brother and I go flying, we use it as a reference point for
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getting back to Raleigh South airport (aka Triple W airport).
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Dan
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#: 3587 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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19-May-90 11:50:42
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Sb: #3565-#No' Carolina
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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~ Kev;
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Yep, it looks like Jordan Lake was the one we spotted.
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We're in Redwood City, about 1.6 mi. from the San Andreas, so as soon as we
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can get some foundation work done on our house, we're outta here! I'd love to
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transfer to Raleigh/Chapel Hill - that way I could probably retire at 55 (in
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another 7 years). There's no way around here! And it's gonna get much worse
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in the next few years. It takes me an hour each way to get to work every day
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even now!
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NC looks like a great place to live (even without all the forum members that
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live there :-) , but that's a bonus). We hope to get out and explore this
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summer if my current project ever catches up to it's time line and I get to
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take my vacation. We'll see!
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...Jim
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#: 3592 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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19-May-90 11:59:16
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Sb: #3587-No' Carolina
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Jim - well let us all know if you get a chance to come this way!
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We ain't got the pacific coastline, but we sure got nice lakes, beaches, and...
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commutes to work are short. And houses still priced okay, too. Now if we could
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just keep the dammed Yankees out.... <grin>.
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#: 3581 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
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19-May-90 07:13:13
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Sb: Univ. of Cal BBS
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Fm: James D. Denboer 76226,2273
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To: All
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The University of California has set up a BBS with info about
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20TH ANNUAL INSTITUTE IN COMPUTER SCIENCE July - August 1990
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We're testing to see how many people will call via modem to find out about
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high-level computer science and engineering short courses we offer in Silicon
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Valley and on the UC Santa Cruz campus.
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These are summer short course institutes 25 relevant, cutting-edge seminars and
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workshops in -- Language Programming/ Object Oriented Programming / Networking
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/Computer Documentation /Fuzzy Theory / Geographical Information Systems/Fault
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Tolerant Computing
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We have nationally-recognized instructors teaching, with some of whom are the
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creators or chief developers of new techologies.
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The number to call is 415 524 9625 (24 hours) 1200/2400-8-N-1 and follow
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online login instructions.
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#: 3582 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 09:25:52
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Sb: #3307-#KingQuest/H0?
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Fm: CRAIG WYNN 72125,466
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Terrific....I guess this takes care of the side 2 request that appear from time
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to time. Say I just picked up the Sub game that is on sale. Again I'am faced
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with figuring out how to get it to run from my hard drive. It appears it needs
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some patching. Are you familiar with this game as well? I've got "ded" to
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patch with. On "sub' its got a /d0 which I've tried changing to /h0 with ded
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but there seems to be more the needs to be done. I guess it needs to be run
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from a VGF screen right? thanks Craig
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#: 3583 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 09:47:57
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Sb: #3582-KingQuest/H0?
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: CRAIG WYNN 72125,466 (X)
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Sub Battle Simulator does indeed require a VDG window to run in. I don't
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remember having to do any patching however. It's disk structure is a little
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strange, though. Exactly what kind of problem are you haveing?
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Zack
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#: 3589 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 11:51:11
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Sb: #3582-#KingQuest/H0?
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: CRAIG WYNN 72125,466 (X)
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~ Craig;
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There's a file called GAMES.PAT in one of the libs with Kev's PPN on it that
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tells how to run it (assuming you're talking about EPYX's Sub Battle).
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Basically, the file just says to use the commands from side 2 and ignore t2e
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ones from side 1.
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Here's an edited script that I use for starting most of the games on my HD:
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display c echo echo * Game selection echo *
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---- --------echo * echo * 1. King's Quest III echo *
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echo * 2. Sub Battle Simulation echo * prompt *
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Select : var.0 if %0=1
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echo Starting King's Quest III...
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echo
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echo Press (Clear) to play...
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xmode /w type=1;display c >/w
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chd /dd/games/kqiii
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chx /dd/games/kqiii/cmds
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(sierra <>>>/w;xmode /w type=80)& else if %0=2
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echo Starting Sub Battle...
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echo
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echo Press (Clear) to play...
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xmode /w type=1;display c >/w
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chd /dd/games
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chx /dd/games/sub/cmds
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(ex sub <>>>/w;xmode /w type=80)& endif clrif
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See if this'll do it for you.
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...Jim
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#: 3591 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 11:58:04
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Sb: #3589-KingQuest/H0?
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Craig;
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Ooops, shoulda stored it unformatted.
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display c
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echo
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echo * Game selection
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echo * ---- ------- -
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echo *
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echo * 1. King's Quest III
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echo *
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echo * 2. Sub Battle Simulation
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echo *
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prompt * Select :
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var.0
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if %0=1
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echo Starting King's Quest III...
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echo
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echo Press (Clear) to play...
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xmode /w type=1;display c >/w
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chd /dd/games/kqiii
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chx /dd/games/kqiii/cmds
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(sierra <>>>/w;xmode /w type=80)&
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else
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if %0=2
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echo Starting Sub Battle...
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echo
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echo Press (Clear) to play...
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xmode /w type=1;display c >/w
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chd /dd/games
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chx /dd/games/sub/cmds
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(ex sub <>>>/w;xmode /w type=80)&
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endif
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clrif
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That should be better.
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...Jim
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#: 3584 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-May-90 10:00:39
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Sb: #Commumications Software
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Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
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To: all
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Just purchased a PT68k os9 system with 1 meg Ram, 40 meg HD, 4 serial ports. I
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need a good communucations package that someone can mail to me.
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Scott Howell
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107 Winchester Tr.
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Smyrna, Ga 30080 thanks.
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#: 3620 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-May-90 05:39:47
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Sb: #3584-#Commumications Software
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X)
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Hi Scott!
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Will send you Monday, via US Postal Service, a copy of 'STERM' and 'KERMIT'. I
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use these on the same machine.
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Ed
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#: 3621 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-May-90 08:49:21
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Sb: #3620-Commumications Software
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Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Many Thanks Ed, really appreciate it.
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#: 3590 S15/Hot Topics
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19-May-90 11:56:40
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Sb: #3557-#OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Colin Smith 73777,1360
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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I know, I found the UNIX alias command and used it for that purpose!
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I just happen to like OS-9 better than UNIX. So sue me!
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--Colin
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#: 3604 S15/Hot Topics
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19-May-90 14:22:57
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Sb: #3590-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: Colin Smith 73777,1360 (X)
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Oh, I agree with you 100%!
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#: 3688 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 12:45:31
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Sb: #3460-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Steve Sampson N5OWK 75136,626
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Steve,
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Actually, I hope that we can prove you wrong here! Signetics (the manufacturer
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of our CPU) is very agressive in its OEM pricing for its 68070. Plus, the GNU C
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compiler has reportedly just been ported to OSK. We are evaluating the
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possibility of offering this excellent public domain C compiler at cost. Of
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course, we also need to look at just how solid the port is, and then justify
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the person-hours involved in fulfulling sales.
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So you may just be seeing a nice mid-priced computer system that blows away
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most other systems, and with a pd C compiler that can match features with the
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best!
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Paul
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#: 3689 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 12:48:37
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Sb: #3533-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Jim Williams 72157,3524
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Have you goot William Hawes phone number?
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Anxious OS-9 person.
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Paul Ward
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#: 3681 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 12:27:37
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Sb: #3544-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Mike,
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Nah, it's not Pascal. And not to worry about the other languages you mentioned.
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Things are shaping up nicely here, BTW. I just hope that people can hang on a
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little longer. We are FINALLY starting a wave a press releases.
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Paul
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#: 3682 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 12:28:53
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Sb: #3551-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Colin Smith 73777,1360
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Colin,
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Well, you can always sell off parts of your other computer systems bit-by-bit!
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If you're like me, you have a CoCo 3 or two, a CoCo 2 or two, a MultiPak or
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two, and an extra printer. You could probably sell that stuff and almost get an
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MM/1 FREE!
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Paul
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22-May-90 12:41:47
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Sb: #3449-#OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Colin Smith 73777,1360
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Colin,
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Software support announcements are due to arrive next week. Support
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announcements in general are due to arrive this week. Prices will be announced
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within three weeks -- the only holdup is negotiations with ONE company. You
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see, I won't be happy until I can throw in $700 worth of software FREE with a
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$700 computer.
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Just receieved the latest offer from this company over the weekend, and we hope
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to iron things out by mid-June.
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Thanks for the interest!
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Paul
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22-May-90 14:05:07
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Sb: #3687-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Richard Ries 76057,3534
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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PAUL- COULD YOU SEND INFO ON THE MM/1? SEND IT TO ME AT:
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RJR SYSTEMS
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PO BOX 560
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COPIAGUE, NY 11726-0560
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THANKS A LOT, RICH RIES. (SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, I'M USING A 16K COCO2 WITH
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COMPAC!!)
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22-May-90 12:50:50
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Sb: #3504-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Steve Sampson N5OWK 75136,626
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Well, UniFlex in volume is very nicely priced.
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Paul
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22-May-90 12:32:32
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Sb: #3555-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Mark Wuest 74030,332 (X)
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Mark,
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Actually, Mark, most of our target market for data acq already does a good deal
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of work on systems that use large RAM storage. Seems a pity, considering how
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useful OS-9 in small configurations.
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I wouldn't worry about the OS choice, though. It'll be the one most asked for
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here.
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Paul
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19-May-90 12:35:37
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Sb: #3433-#OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
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I guess the question is--how Unix-like is it? It may have changed in the five
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years since I actually saw anything about it, but from what I did see back
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then, UniFlex looked different enough from Unix that the Unix-worshippers would
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turn their noses up at it.
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By now you may have already seen the BITNET messages saying something like
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"MINIX?!? Are you crazy?" MINIX is good for what it was intended for, i.e. a
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pedagogical tool, but aside from that...I've yet to hear from anyone using it
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in a production environment.
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19-May-90 19:34:40
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Sb: #3594-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Steve Sampson N5OWK 75136,626
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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It's safe to assume that anything that says "Unix-like" usually refers to the
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file system. From there it get's pretty different from the real thing. UniFlex
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is no different than Unix in its file system (ie, Inodes, etc) but it has so
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many differences as to be also MS-DOS-like, OS-9-like, or "you name it -like".
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"Unix-like" is a sales tool, which means nothing really.
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22-May-90 12:37:31
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Sb: #3594-#OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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James,
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Good points, both -- UNIFlex is actually very MUCH like UNIX now.
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Also, MINIX is in demand at universities for pedagogy, as you mention, and to
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SELL MINIX is easier than to SELL OS-9.
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However, one of the main reasons that other OSes are being considered is that
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many purchasers may simply need a choice -- whether or not they actually USE
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two or more operating systems on the same computer is up to them.
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Personally, I would push OS-9 on them by tailoring it to their needs. OS-9 can
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be made to look much more UNIX-y than it does now.
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Paul
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#: 3708 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 19:27:28
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Sb: #3685-OS9 A/O Uniflex???
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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That's true--and as Feds start writing POSIX into their RFPs, there will be
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quite a bit of incentive to make it look like Unix.
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#: 3593 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 12:32:20
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Sb: #3417-C arrays
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Jeff Dege 76426,211 (X)
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That's for darned sure--especially what with X3J11 going for "value preserving"
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widening, while Harbison and Steele (and evidently various existing compilers)
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going for "unsigned preserving" widening!
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#: 3595 S15/Hot Topics
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19-May-90 12:42:10
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Sb: #3509-#That Darn Computer!
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
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Make that Vogon poetry, and I'd agree with you. <grin>
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The above, needless to say, is purely my personal opinion!!! :-) :-) :-)
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22-May-90 12:38:38
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Sb: #3595-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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James,
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How refreshing to hear that a C programmer finds C a little alien!
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BTW, I appreciate your personal opinions VERY MUCH. Keep it comin.
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Paul
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#: 3693 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 13:10:00
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Sb: #3532-#That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Jim Williams 72157,3524 (X)
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Jim,
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May not be necessary. Just buy an MM/1 as a remote terminal. Won't need a local
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floppy, just the boards, a portable case, the MM/1 CPU board, and for about the
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price of an Amiga 1000, you've got a topnotch graphics terminal especially with
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a client/server windowing system.
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Paul
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#: 3698 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 16:04:23
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Sb: #3693-#That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Jim Williams 72157,3524
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Well... yeah, that occurred to me right after I left the message. You must mean
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an A500, tho, since CBM has (yet again :) discontinued the A1000... Got the
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'grand tour' of Microware today... some of it was pretty impressive... Some of
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it was d*mned impressive :). James Jones (my tour guide <grin>) showed me this
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nifty little Sharp 68000 import running OS/9 68000 v2.2. While the windowing
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system looked very impressive, it appeared to have one or two features I didn't
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care for (auto-window-to-front, for example)... I only mention that becuase it
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gives me an excuse to suggest that you/kevin let me take a lookit the gui for
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the Millenium before its released (even a GIF pic, if I don't have one by
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then). A book James gave me ("OS/9 Sourcebook"), lists a bunch of software
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titles for OS/9... unfortunately, I didn't see, in a brief look-see, any
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graphics oriented or entertainment oriented titles (other than some GKS
|
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stuff)... That's where I plan on concentrating my area of development,
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regardless of what OS I use... --Eet--
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#: 3702 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 17:44:41
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Sb: #3698-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Jim Williams 72157,3524
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Jim - there's been very few gfx-oriented OS9 machines around up 'til lately
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(except overseas). So you'll have a wide-open market as far as entertainment
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programs go. Think of it as being the first year of Amigas being out...
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Glad you got to visit with JJ! Talk atcha later - kev
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#: 3602 S15/Hot Topics
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19-May-90 13:18:46
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Sb: #3498-#That Darn Computer!
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Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Mike I was thrilled when I found outI could strap on a terminal on my serial
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port and have a multi-user system. I really did it just to see what it was
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like, I don't have a need for a multi-user environment, but I like to to the PC
|
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people, and MAC peopleI work with. The only problem I had (I used a WYSE 50
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terminal) when I hooked up the terminal was that when I typed a cr and certain
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other characters, my shell locked up. I tried emulating (thorugh the terminal
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only) all the different types of terms the WY-50 could, and some were worse
|
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than others. But It was
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an interesting experience. Multi-user, multi-tasking on a computer that is just
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a little over o foot long, and costs $128-$200. That aint no TRASH-80 ! Can't
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wait for the MM1, and this new version of OS9 for the coco3. I'll be bragging
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like theres no tomorrow. There are several people I work with (all software
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engineers) that want to see my coco3 system now. But I am trying to hold off
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and wait for the new os-9 package, so It will really blow there socks off.
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#: 3637 S15/Hot Topics
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20-May-90 23:11:55
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Sb: #3602-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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Tony, Glad to see you are discovering the wonders of this little system. Just
|
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as an aside, there is an "expert" at Tandy that stated the UNIX uucp protocol
|
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and suit of utilities could not, no way, be done on the CoCo. Ed Gresick has
|
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been using his CoCo3 to receive and send store orders with Tandy in Fort Worth
|
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for a couple months now using UUCP. Even tho this "expert" has seen this
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happen, he refuses to believe it.
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Just shows you how people cannot believe how good this system is.
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Ed will jump in here is he has more to offer (grin).
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Mark
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#: 3645 S15/Hot Topics
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21-May-90 10:24:41
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Sb: #3602-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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Tony -
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I use WYSE-50's (albeit, on a Gimix... but I have used them on coco2's &
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coco3's as well). Should be no problems:
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o - Have you read SERIAL.TXT in DL2?
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o - Do you have the IRQHAK installed?
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Pete
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#: 3679 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 12:24:11
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Sb: #3536-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Bob Wilkinson 72477,1037
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Bob,
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Thanks for the interest! Will send out information today.
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paul
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#: 3692 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 13:06:34
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Sb: #3465-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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|
|
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Actually, Millenium is one of the names we talked about at your place! That and
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the M/Falcon.
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Interesting.
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Well, MM/1 is pretty strongly embedded now, but we've been breaking molds all
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along, so maybe using Millienium is a good idea, at least as the official
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nickname!
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Paul
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#: 3691 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 13:04:50
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Sb: #3453-#That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
|
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Tony,
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Looks like you sent the message to the wrong guy. You can direct all the New
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Computer messages to me.
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|
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The MM/1 will be available late summer -- I mean, we will actually be shipping
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in quantitiy.
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|
|
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The list of features you received is a wish list, but it is also a list of the
|
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features that the computer actually has!
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I have one MM/1 here on my desk, another one in the living room, and there are
|
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others sprinkled around the US.
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|
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We have some small design changes to make, some production costs to deal with,
|
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and software licenses to finish up. Then we can announce an official "street
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price".
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BTW, we have folks here in Washington who want to put the MM/1 in a hightech
|
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showcase full of advanced multimedia computers.
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Chances are slime they'll want the TC-9 for anything at all, even if they COULD
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get their hands on one, which they can't.
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Paul
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PS. I don't mean to sound down on the TC-9. THe MM/1 is just plain better and
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is the only choice that will keep our community together for the next five
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years or more.
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You should make a list of what you want to get on the TC-9, then ask FHL how
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much they'll charge you.
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#: 3706 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 19:23:49
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Sb: #3691-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Hmmm..."chances are slime," you say? <grin>
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#: 3680 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 12:25:39
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Sb: #3539-#That Darn Computer!
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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|
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|
Mike,
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Well, you know that most of this talk about UNIFlex is really not worth
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worrying about.
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|
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You will have an OS that makes you feel COMPLETELY at home (wink).
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Paul
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#: 3707 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 19:24:37
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Sb: #3680-That Darn Computer!
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Hmmm...since Dr. K. works where I used to work, that is somewhat of a scary
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thought for me. <grin>
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#: 3597 S3/Languages
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19-May-90 12:49:36
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Sb: #3472-#F$Fork
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)
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Can't have two files in the same directory with the same name...you'll have to
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do one of two things:
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1. create the new file with a different name, and delete the original and
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rename the new one when the smoke clears.
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|
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2. (works ONLY in cases like this, where the output is guaranteed no longer
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than the input) have *two* paths open to the same file, one for input
|
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and one for output, and update the file in place. (of course, only works
|
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on disks, too!)
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As a fatter of mact, I wrote a LF-wiper that took option 2 (avoids fancy
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delete/rename footwork). (Of course, you'll need to set the file size at the
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end, so keep track of how many bytes you write, or alternatively, count how
|
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much you delete and subtract that from the file length, giving a new file
|
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length to set!) I may have uploaded the silly thing.
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(Sad to say, I had to be prodded about option 2 as well--I raise the cola can
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to Peter Dibble in salute!)
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#: 3617 S3/Languages
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20-May-90 02:03:22
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Sb: #3597-F$Fork
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Hi James... I uploaded the program (using Option 1) as strip.ar. Option 2
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sounds interesting, though. Think I'll play with it. Thanks...
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#: 3646 S3/Languages
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21-May-90 10:27:04
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Sb: #3597-#F$Fork
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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JJ-
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Rather than count bytes, why not _gs_size() then _ss_size at the end? Might be
|
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simpler? Just a nit....
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Pete
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#: 3660 S3/Languages
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21-May-90 19:12:38
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Sb: #3646-#F$Fork
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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True--but you'd at least have to count the number of characters you deleted,
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since you'd have updated the file in place. Hard to say what's better, since
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it's not hard to do either one.
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#: 3673 S3/Languages
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22-May-90 10:59:37
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Sb: #3660-F$Fork
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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JJ -
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Count deleted characters? Not if you do the _gs_pos/_ss_size when finished
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operating on the i$write path, eh?
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Pete
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#: 3647 S3/Languages
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21-May-90 10:27:51
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Sb: #3597-#F$Fork
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Whoops -
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That was supposed to be _gs_pos() then _ss_size().
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Pete
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#: 3661 S3/Languages
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21-May-90 19:13:36
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Sb: #3647-#F$Fork
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Ah--that's very different then! (I can't do an Emily Litella imitation to save
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my life.) That would be rather cleaner, wouldn't it?
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Good idea!
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#: 3674 S3/Languages
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22-May-90 11:00:23
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Sb: #3661-F$Fork
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Oops - okay... we're in sync now. Great!
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Pete
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#: 3598 S9/Utilities
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19-May-90 12:52:45
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Sb: #3559-#Level Two windows?
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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I don't recall the name, but I'm sure that one can find an ad for it in any *68
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Micro Journal* of the past couple or three years.
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#: 3614 S9/Utilities
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20-May-90 00:59:03
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Sb: #3598-#Level Two windows?
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Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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James (&Kevin)
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I found it: Virtual Terminal by South East Media - for Standard and Coco OS-9.
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Thanks.
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Wendell
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P.S. (Kevin: so it's Dammed Yankees now? (grin))
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#: 3619 S9/Utilities
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20-May-90 04:34:53
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Sb: #3614-Level Two windows?
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)
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Re Southern vocabulary: my understanding is that it's always been one word:
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damnyankee. (I may not have the spelling right, though.) <grin>
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#: 3599 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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19-May-90 12:57:29
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Sb: #The Return of the Native
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: All
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"I'm *BACK*....I'm *BACK* in the saddle again..." --Aerosmith, or was that Gene
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Autry?
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My apologies if I've missed messages addressed to me. Moving (a whole block
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and a half, but still with all the hassle!) has kept me offline for a week or
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so. (It woulda been less, but I had to assemble the desk for the computer to
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sit on, and I'm going to trudge off and buy a decent chair once I log off! :-)
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So...I'm back (but now among the landed gentry). Good to see you folks again.
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#: 3623 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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20-May-90 09:38:07
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Sb: #3599-The Return of the Native
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Glad to know the transporter worked, James... welcome back!
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#: 3600 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-May-90 12:58:55
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Sb: GNU C for OSK
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: All
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Greetings! News just come from USENET--the mods to the GNU C compiler to make
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it work and generate code for OS-9/68000 have been submitted to
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comp.sources.misc on USENET--so keep your eyes peeled.
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#: 3601 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 13:08:31
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Sb: #3464-#Fastgraf / Bounce.ar
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Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Thanx for the info. But if I can't format a floppy in a 512k system with my
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applications running, why would I (or anyone else) want to add another 512 and
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still not be able to format a floppy, due to the fact that the system area was
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depleted ?? My hats off to you, Tony, and all others for making the 512k add on
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possible, but I can't see what good it is at the moment.
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Tony
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#: 3611 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 23:00:47
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Sb: #3601-Fastgraf / Bounce.ar
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
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Tony,
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For a long time now, I've simply formatted floppies when I cranked up the
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system, or sometimes killed off a few shells until I could do a format. But
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that's rare, because I mostly use the ramdisk and harddisk.
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The extra 512K, while not helping with the format thing, does allow you to open
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far more gfx windows and preload LOTS of program modules... besides having a
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nice-sized ramdisk if you wish. This makes everything flow a lot easier. best -
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kev
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#: 3603 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 13:35:11
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Sb: #Window Problems
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Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
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I am trying to modify my startup file so that it will start up some windows
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before I start up multi-vue. This is so I can kill mult-vue, and still have
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windows going. After I did the following iniz /w7 display 1b21 </1 >/w7 shell
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i=/w7& my system hung up every time it executed the display 1b21 line. When I
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start up my mv window I do the same thing, display 1b21 </1 >/w1 so I can see
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MV start up, right after the window is created. Can anybody help me with this.
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My goal is to create several windows before MV starts up, and be able to jump
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(display 1b21) to each window before or after I start a shell in them (doesn't
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matter to me) just so I can see them being created, and then jump into my MV
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window and continue as always. I can never seem to create windows easily. The
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info in the Rainbow Guide to Level II doesn't seem to work without errors.
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Thanx for the help
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Tony
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#: 3608 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 21:38:57
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Sb: #3603-Window Problems
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Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
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Tony:
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I'm not really the guy to ask on this one, I use MultiVue very little. When I
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do, I just let it start up off the disk, iniz windows as I use them.
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On my LII system disk, I start up /term, /w1, /w2. This is all I ever use, so I
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don't use up memory by keeping the other discriptors in memory. For them I just
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use the "wcreate"
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wcreate /w1 -s=7 0 0 80 24 9 1 1
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Or what ever, then shell i=/w1&. From what I understand, iniz should do about
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the same thing, except give you the default windows.
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You should maybe ask Kevin Darling, or Pete Lyall about this, I do a little
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hacking, and patching, but let guys like them tell me what to do.
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>Lute<
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#: 3622 S10/Tandy CoCo
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20-May-90 09:04:09
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Sb: #3603-#Window Problems
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Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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You need to do a DWSet to get your windows up and running. Try:
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iniz w1
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display 1b 20 7 0 0 50 18 0 1 1 >/w1
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shell i=/w1&
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Do not try to select the new window in the startup file as this will cause the
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procedure to hang. I think this is because the select causes the original
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shell to loose the input file when standard input is reset to the keyboard of
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the new window
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#: 3638 S10/Tandy CoCo
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20-May-90 23:12:26
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Sb: #3622-#Window Problems
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376 (X)
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Bruce,
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We are trying (have been for a few years now) to get users to not iniz devices
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using Level II, especially windows. The reason is if they later close the
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window (stop all processes running on it) and they don't deiniz it, the memory
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for that window is kept by the system. This could cause some real debugging
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headaches later on if they run out of memory.
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In your example (shown below):
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iniz w1
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display 1b 20 7 0 0 50 18 0 1 1 >/w1
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shell i=/w1&
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the user is stuck with an immortal shell on /w1 and the window memory is locked
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in until they specifically kill the shell and deiniz the window device. Your
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example is fine tho, in that to send the display codes to the window and have
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them "take", it either has to be iniz'ed or a path has to be opened to that
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device. A better way would be something like this:
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(display 1b 20 2 0 0 50 18 0 2 2;ex shell)<>>>/w&
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This command starts a shell on the next available window, does the DWSET, and
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then starts another shell. Once the second shell is started, the first one
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dies. So, a path is be opened on the device the whole time and the DWSET
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works. As an added bonus, when the shell on that window dies, the window goes
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away and the memory is returned.
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If you wanted to, you can set this command line up in your execution directory
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and call it "window" or something like that. Then all you need to do is enter
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that command and the window is created. You can also do this to create
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different types of windows, and call the commands "g80" or "g40" to make 80 and
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40 columns graphics windows.
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Mark
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#: 3641 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 00:12:31
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Sb: #3638-Window Problems
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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I'm glad you brought that up (not hardcoding windows). Meant to do it. thx!
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#: 3656 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 17:23:51
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Sb: #3638-#Window Problems
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Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Good point about the iniz. If the window is iniz'd when you direct output to
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it anyway, there's no need to do it explicitly. Tony was trying to set up a
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shell in a window from the MV startup file so an immortal shell is appropriate
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I think. Personally, I've set up an AIF to call up a shell in an 80 col
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window. That way I'm not locked into having a shell up if I don't need it.
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While we're on the subject of deiniz, do you have any idea why it's so hard to
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get rid of a ram disk (the one from the developement pac)? It usually takes a
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number of deiniz's to get the memory back. To ease things I call a procedure
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file having around 10 deiniz's. This does the job but occassionally will cause
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the system to hang.
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#: 3659 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 18:53:55
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Sb: #3656-#Window Problems
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376 (X)
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Bruce - each time you use "/r0" in a pathname the "User Count" (see output of
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the DDir utility) goes up. A deiniz takes it down by one, so you gotta do it
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until you hit zero users. Oops. dinnertime. later- kev
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#: 3703 S10/Tandy CoCo
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22-May-90 17:45:21
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Sb: #3659-#Window Problems
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Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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User count? Is this the same as the link count?
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#: 3704 S10/Tandy CoCo
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22-May-90 17:54:54
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Sb: #3703-Window Problems
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
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Bruce - no. Link count is what you see with an Mdir. That's the count of links
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to a module.
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The user count shown in Ddir (or Devs, if under OSK), is the count of "users"
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of a particular device. It goes up when a file is opened, down when a file is
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closed. However, at least under L-II it only goes upward (never down) when you
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do a CHD or CHX using a device's name.
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This count is used to figure out when a device's init/terminate routines should
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be called (that is, on first use, and when last use ends).
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The "iniz" and "deiniz" commands artificially inc/dec this count, just as
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"link" and "unlink" do for modules.
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#: 3664 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 22:03:08
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Sb: #3656-Window Problems
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376 (X)
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Bruce,
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You could do an immortal shell in the command line example I gave also. I
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think, tho, that you would have to redirect the output to standard out since
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you can't explicitly give the window device name. Something like ";ex shell
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i=/2"?? I never tried it.
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On unlinking the ramdisk....Kevin gave you the reason. There is a utility
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floating around someplace in the data libraries called "unload". All it does
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is repeatedly call unlink until an error occurs. This effectively unlinks any
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module in memory, no matter how many link counts there are.
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Mark
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#: 3606 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 19:47:22
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Sb: #Dynastar
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Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
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To: all
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Can someone who's familar with Dynastar tell me what is wrong? I can't print a
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file to my /p When DF is called, it gives a "error in printing detected, press
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ESC" I have searched the manual for a clue but don't see it. My printer is set
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up for autolinefeed. I have a Gemini SG10, out of the bit port at 9600 baud I
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can exit DS and at the os9 prompt, list a file to the printer with no problem,
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so the hardware seems to be correct. Thanks, Denise
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#: 3648 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 10:34:36
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Sb: #3606-Dynastar
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
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Denise -
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I don't know which version of DS/DF you're using ... I use an early version
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that was unbelieveably enough done in interpreted Pascal.
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A few prelim questions first?
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o - Does the printer work other than with DF?
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o - Has DF ever worked?
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o - Are you running one of the newer versions of DS/DF (written in C)?
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o - What else are you running at the same time?
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o - Try INIZ'ing your printer from your startup file also..
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Pete
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#: 3607 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-May-90 20:48:48
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Sb: #OS9 for Embedded System?
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Fm: Charles H. Murray 73707,1752
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To: all
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I am in the process of designing a small embedded system and was interested in
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using OS-9 on a 68000 microprocessor. I have some implementation questions for
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those of you out there with considerable experience with OS-9.
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1. What are the memory requirements for running OS-9 on a 68000? (i.e. Will
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it fit in 64K, 32K, what?)
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2. I was planning on using a Sun 3/80 for developement, is this OK?
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3. How about a brief description of OS-9 with regards to multitasking,
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interprocess communications, device driver implementation, etc. This software
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will have to interface to some analog and digital sensors and some
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communications equipment (i.e. modems, terminals)
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I have developed many embedded systems from 8 bit processors programmed with
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assembly and FORTH, to VMEbus computers running various realtime kernels, but I
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have yet to venture into the OS-9 arena. Any help on any or all of these
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questions will be greatly appreciated.
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Charlie - Washington, D.C.
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#: 3610 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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19-May-90 22:04:09
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Sb: #3607-OS9 for Embedded System?
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Charles H. Murray 73707,1752 (X)
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A Sun 3 for development? Should be OK as far as I know--there are tools for
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debugging code from a Unix system across Ethernet on an OS-9/68K system, even.
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Probably the best thing to do for a brief description would be to call up
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Microware (515-224-1929, 9-5 on weekdays) and ask for a copy of the *OS-9
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Catalog*, which gives an overview of the operating system. I think that
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they'll send you a copy for free.
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#: 3618 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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20-May-90 02:21:29
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Sb: #3607-OS9 for Embedded System?
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Charles H. Murray 73707,1752 (X)
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Hi Charles. From a Microware file I got a while back...
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The Host system for porting may be:
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a. A 68000-based computer with 256K RAM and OS-9/68000.
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b. A VAX computer running UNIX/BSD 4.2 or VMS.
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c. A SUN 3 Workstation running UNIX/BSD 4.2.
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The Target (embedded) system requires:
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a. A 68000 family CPU.
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b. At least 64K RAM.
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c. At least 16K ROM capacity. Alternatively,
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use an emulator with 16K of overlay memory.
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d. Two serial I/O ports; one for a terminal and
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one for communications with the host system.
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I think once you get it ported over, you can drop back the RAM. At the same
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time, the ROM will need to go up to around 32K, as now you'll burn in the whole
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OS (original ROM holds a debugger to help porting). You can also drop the
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serial ports, of course. Hmmm. You can get by with (1) during porting, I think
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also. I could be far off here. Anyway, as you go along you can ROM each
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application, and OS-9 will find it automatically on the next restart (or you
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can load into RAM on the fly, of course).
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Wait. Let me look on my system: kernel is 25K; a serial port manager and driver
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maybe 4K total. System RAM use maybe 8-12K on startup? That doesn't count any
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shells or apps or more drivers, of course. OS-9 may be slightly larger than
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other realtime kernels, because it's a more full-fledged OS. You could easily
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switch to doing development on your target if you wished (and added some mass
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storage).
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For far better and later details, call Microware at 515-224-1929. And, if you
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wish, do a "GO MSC" here on CIS and download the files on OS-9 from the
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Microware Systems Corp (msc) display area. Loads of info there. You'll find
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stuff on IPC, multitasking, etc. Drivers are pretty easy to write. Be sure to
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also read their "Pipelines" newsletter there.
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Judging from what I've been told by others with your same background, you'll
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enjoy working with OS-9 quite a bit. best - Kevin
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#: 3609 S10/Tandy CoCo
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19-May-90 21:40:36
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Sb: #Shell+
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Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
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To: 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete,
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Where can I find Shell+, and what will it do for me?
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>Lute<
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#: 3643 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 10:18:32
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Sb: #3609-Shell+
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
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Lute,
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I believe shell+ is here in either DL9 or DL10. It may be in Ipatch format
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(i.e. patches to the original shell), in which case you'll also need the
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'PATCH.AR' programs in either DL9 or 10.
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Pete
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#: 3649 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 10:37:06
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Sb: #3609-Shell+
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
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Lute -
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Shell plus also adds some enhanced scripting capabilities (very handy), as well
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as separate CMD directories (an execution path option), as well as a host of
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other conveniences that should have been in there from the beginning. A neat
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tool. Wish I could run it on the Gimix (it's unfortunately Coco3 specific)...
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Pete
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#: 3612 S15/Hot Topics
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19-May-90 23:03:44
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Sb: #3570-#Tomcat Computer
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Fm: Frank Hogg 70310,317
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To: Gene Grecheck 74206,643
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Will do, thanks for asking.
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Frank
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#: 3678 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 12:18:55
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Sb: #3612-Tomcat Computer
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Frank Hogg 70310,317
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Frank, Tomcat looks good from here. (Rx'd the brochure). Next go 'round you
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might was to make it clear that the basic TC is (or is not) the same as a CoCo
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3. (+++
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#: 3668 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 03:57:15
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Sb: #2443-Tomcat Computer
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Frank Hogg 70310,317
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Frank - From Phil Brown on bitnet: Would you please forward this query to
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frank?
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Frank: I just read your Advertisement in the June issue of Rainbow, for the
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Tomcat. I was quite impressed, and glad you took a full-page . But, as they
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say, with the answers to questions come more questions. I have pulled out
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various issues, that I have tried to keep directly related to the Ad. You may
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want to break up your reply into 2 or more separate replies.
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For the K-Bus system of OSk: I have heard that the K-bus is only 16-bit. Is
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this true, and if so, have you any plans to change this?
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(Since osk is advertised with the K-bus) Does your $300 OSk package come with
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the C comopiler? How much for it separately?
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And mainly for the Tomcat/TC9 : It was said that the TC9 is "K-bus compatible".
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Does that mean that it is possible to add on a K-bus, or does one come with it?
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(aside: How about 1.2/1.4 Meg flopies?)
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You stated that the TC9 could use a 68000 board as a co-processor. Would that
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be in some ways automatic, or is it up to us to make our programs take
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advantage of this?
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Similarly, What configurations are possible? TC9 and TWO 68000 boards? TC9 and
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perhaps a CoCoIII? Would TC9 and a 68030 be better than TC9 + 68000? Since a
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68000 can use TC9 as a slave board, can a 68030 use a 68000 board? If you can
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have multiple TC9s, how about multiple 68000 boards?
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You said that the joystick res has been increased to 256. How will this affect
|
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a high-res joystick interface? Is there any way to get 640 by XXX joystick
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res WITHOUT using a hi-res interface? Will it be possible to use a logitech, or
|
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optical, "digital" mouse, under OS9? (since it will have "real" serial ports
|
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now)
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How about no-halt disk operations, under OS9, without a 68000 board?
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You mentioned that under OSk, with the 68000 board as main CPU, the TC9 would
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be "a multi-function graphics co-processor". You didn't mention anything about
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the graphics board I have heard about here! Does the TC9 have increased res.
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over the CoCo III?
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#: 3615 S7/Telecommunications
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20-May-90 01:19:53
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Sb: #Modem Problems
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Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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To: ALL
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Ok. I've made the change. A lot of people have been telling me to change to
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osterm. I have, and It is a very good program. Way to go Vaughn! But I have
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been plagued by a problem that I thought was due to Telstar, but still shows up
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under osterm 2.08. When I try to dial a local BBS #, my modem will not dial. It
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receives the codes because I can see the lights fl ash on the modem. But it
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won't dial. I have dialed this service, and a long distance bbs just a few
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minutes ago. I must admit I did have a problem dialing CIS this time. I am
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borrowing another rs232 pak now, so I t doesn't look like that is the problem.
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My MPI is modified. I am using a 1200 baud radio shack modem . I did notice
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that the 2 bbs's that I had problems dialing used 7 bit data, and the long
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|
distance bbs used 8 bit. Can a modem be sensitive to certain phone #'s. It
|
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seems like the only thing it can be is the modem. ANny ideas ?
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 3650 S7/Telecommunications
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21-May-90 10:39:17
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Sb: #3615-Modem Problems
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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Tony -
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Biggest questions are:
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a) Is the RS232 pak in slot 1 in the multipak?
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b) Do you have the IRQ Hack installed.
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Also - if you haven't scanned SERIAL.TXT in DL2, it's worth reading.
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Pete
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#: 3616 S10/Tandy CoCo
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20-May-90 01:25:21
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Sb: #Selecting windows
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Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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To: Kevin Darling
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|
I have been trying to start up several windows outside of MV so I can kill MV
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without having to kill my other procs. In my startup file I tried the following
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iniz /w7 display 1b21 </1 >/w7 shell i=/w7 &
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I wanted to be able to see the windows as they are being created. I am using a
|
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similar method to start up my MV window and that works. But when I try the
|
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lines above, my system hangs when it executes the display 1b21 </1. I was told
|
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this was necessary when you do a display 1b21 >/w# from a script, and it is not
|
|
needed on the cmd. line. Is this true ? Why did my startup file hang up on that
|
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line ?
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Thanx
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TC
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 3633 S10/Tandy CoCo
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20-May-90 20:18:35
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Sb: #3616-Selecting windows
|
|
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
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|
Tony,
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Yes, you're right about using the </1, because a script file's standard input
|
|
is the script file itself. Selecting a new window won't work unless standard
|
|
input is reset to be a window... which is what the </1 does. Using our secret
|
|
decoder ring, we translate the "</1" as:
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|
|
|
"<" - redirect standard input for the command...
|
|
"/1" - using whatever is now standard output
|
|
(usually the window you're on now)
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|
|
|
BTW, note that command lines are parsed from left to right. So the line
|
|
"display 1b21 >/w7 </1" wouldn't work. Can you see why? Popquiz Monday ;-).
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|
|
You say that you want to have other windows started up other than Gshell. I
|
|
assume that you've had no problem starting up these other windows and shells,
|
|
but now (just to be fancy) want to see these new windows get started? Here's an
|
|
example method of doing that:
|
|
|
|
iniz w7 w8
|
|
display 1b21 </1 >/w7; echo WINDOW SEVEN >/w7
|
|
display 1b21 </w7 >/w8; echo WINDOW EIGHT >/w8
|
|
display 1b21 </w8
|
|
t
|
|
* NOW STARTING BACKGROUND PROCS
|
|
shell i=/w7&
|
|
mdir >/w8&
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|
|
|
Notes:
|
|
1. After you Select another window, you have to make it your std input in
|
|
order to cause another Select to take.
|
|
2. You can't have a program waiting on input from the Window you're Selecting
|
|
or DeSelecting. Unless you want to wait your turn at input of course... and
|
|
that's one reason your script might hang. So start programs last.
|
|
3. Your descriptors had better have been Wmode'd (WMODE.AR Lib 10) to default
|
|
as separate windows, or you'll hang. Term, W1, W4 and W7 come that way stock.
|
|
Or use wcreate or DWSET (1b20 etc etc) to set the window type on the fly).
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|
|
Keep asking until things get clearer. Glad to help if possible! - kev
|
|
|
|
#: 3628 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
20-May-90 14:33:27
|
|
Sb: #Help
|
|
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
|
|
To: ALL
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|
|
|
|
Hi,
|
|
|
|
Having trouble getting 0S9 Level II to work with Wiz. It seems that the
|
|
Multi-Pak, RS232-Pak, and modem are problem. I can't communicate with the
|
|
modem. The MPI has been upgraded and all slots work. The RS232=Pak has been
|
|
checked and is operating fine. So I must be doing something wrong. What have I
|
|
missed that would not let the computer communicate with the modem (a Multi-Tech
|
|
224E Hayes compatible). The Pak is in slot 1.
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|
|
|
Thanks, Butch 76702,1126
|
|
|
|
There are 2 Replies.
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#: 3651 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
21-May-90 10:42:23
|
|
Sb: #3628-#Help
|
|
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
|
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
|
|
|
|
Butch -
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|
|
|
It seems to be the day for serial troubles. If you haven't already looked, have
|
|
a gander at SERIAL.TXT in DL2. Also, try one of the other term programs here
|
|
that doesn't require its own device driver (i.e. Xcom9, Sterm, etc. in DL7).
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|
|
|
Pete
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 3671 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
22-May-90 09:23:09
|
|
Sb: #3651-#Help
|
|
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
|
|
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
|
|
|
|
Hi Pete,
|
|
Thanks for the info. I will DL the file. Someone has told me that the <CD>
|
|
light on my modem need to be on and it isn't. So I will check in to this and
|
|
see if that is the problem. Thanks, Butch
|
|
|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 3675 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
22-May-90 11:01:18
|
|
Sb: #3671-Help
|
|
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
|
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
|
|
|
|
Butch -
|
|
|
|
very true.... because of the design, the CD line must be active to the RS232
|
|
pak in order to function properly. I'll bet that's it.
|
|
|
|
Pete
|
|
|
|
#: 3669 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
22-May-90 08:24:07
|
|
Sb: #3628-#Help
|
|
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
|
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
|
|
|
|
Butch,
|
|
|
|
You don't mention it, but let me ask:
|
|
|
|
Doesn't Wiz require it's own special aciapak driver? Have you installed this
|
|
and created a new bootfile?
|
|
|
|
Steve
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 3672 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
22-May-90 09:33:38
|
|
Sb: #3669-#Help
|
|
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
|
|
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
|
|
|
|
Hi Steve,
|
|
|
|
Someone has told me that I need the <CD> light on for OS9 to work. At this time
|
|
it only comes on when I have a connect. If this is correct then this must be
|
|
the problem. I guess I need to find out how to force the <CD> to be on all the
|
|
time. I sounds good to me. I know that the computer was not communicating thru
|
|
the MPI to the RS-232Pak. Does this sound right? I am a end user, I just do
|
|
what I have to to make it work. This is the hard way to go with OS9, but my
|
|
computer knowledge is very limited.
|
|
|
|
Thanks, Butch
|
|
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
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#: 3711 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
22-May-90 20:45:30
|
|
Sb: #3672-Help
|
|
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
|
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
|
|
|
|
Butch,
|
|
|
|
The rs232 pak _requires_ Data Set Ready (DSR), Data Carrier Detect (DCD) and
|
|
Clear to send (CTS) lines to be held high. This can be accomplished in
|
|
different ways. If your modem is capable ...that's the easiest. Investigate the
|
|
&C and &D commands.
|
|
|
|
Another way would be to jumper line 6-8-20 together. Either will generally
|
|
work.
|
|
|
|
Steve
|
|
|
|
#: 3629 S3/Languages
|
|
20-May-90 14:34:00
|
|
Sb: #3350-#BASIC09 Help
|
|
Fm: Colin Smith 73777,1360
|
|
To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
|
|
|
|
Could someone please tell me a quick and easy way to check a screen position
|
|
and find out what it contains? I'm writing a text-type pong game and I need to
|
|
check for collisions. Any help is appreciated!
|
|
|
|
---Colin
|
|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 3632 S3/Languages
|
|
20-May-90 17:06:07
|
|
Sb: #3629-BASIC09 Help
|
|
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
|
|
To: Colin Smith 73777,1360
|
|
|
|
Colin - this on a text screen? - kev
|
|
|
|
#: 3630 S1/General Interest
|
|
20-May-90 15:08:21
|
|
Sb: #2679-help osterm
|
|
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
|
|
To: Ronald L. Hall 73707,2303
|
|
|
|
Ronald, WizPro does have YMODEM. (WPXMOD ver 1.9 & above).
|
|
|
|
#: 3634 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
20-May-90 20:48:17
|
|
Sb: #WizPro
|
|
Fm: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
|
|
To: 70126,267 (X)
|
|
|
|
Bill
|
|
|
|
I downloaded WizPro and I love it. I will soon write for the unabridged
|
|
version. I do have a problem. I have a friend that has a Disto Super
|
|
Controller II. I downloaded Proans.bin which I thought was a replacement for
|
|
your standard ProAcia. He is not planning to use a multipak because he is
|
|
installing his CoCo in an IBM case. He also has a 4 in 1 board.
|
|
|
|
After making a new bootdisk with Proans.bin substituted, WizPro would run but
|
|
not communicate with the modem (with no multipak), and would not run WizPro at
|
|
all with the multipak.
|
|
|
|
Did I download the wrong program or make some other mistake. I don't have the
|
|
expertise to debug. Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Trucker Bob
|
|
|
|
P.S. I noticed that the archive downloads were in a different
|
|
arrangment than noted in the docs. There is no WizPr3.ar
|
|
and no Nuhost. Was Nuhost deliberately left out or did
|
|
I miss it somewhere? Thanks in advance.
|
|
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
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|
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#: 3677 S7/Telecommunications
|
|
22-May-90 12:13:24
|
|
Sb: #3634-WizPro
|
|
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
|
|
To: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
|
|
|
|
Hmmmm. I am not familiar with Proans.bin. That may be for the Eliminator??? To
|
|
use the supercontroller II all you need to do is patch MWP so that the address
|
|
for the port is FF54 instead of FF68. With modpatch you just change byte 10
|
|
from 68 to 54. On the reupload of pro, I just put it into two files vice 3. Let
|
|
me know if you need more help. -BB
|
|
|
|
#: 3635 S3/Languages
|
|
20-May-90 21:01:16
|
|
Sb: #Kreider fseek() bug
|
|
Fm: David George 72240,134
|
|
To: ALL
|
|
|
|
There seems to be a small problem with fseek() in the Kreider library.
|
|
I am using fseek(fp, --p, 2); to position the file pointer at the end
|
|
of a file and then back up character by character.
|
|
|
|
I am using this in my TAIL program (which works like the UNIX version).
|
|
With the Kreider C library I get too many lines. When I ask for 10 it
|
|
gives me about 20 (not exactly, and it is different for different files).
|
|
However when I compile it on my Atari running Professional OS9 it works
|
|
fine. Also when I compile it with the standard CLIB.L on the Coco it
|
|
works.
|
|
|
|
Also is there any news on the 68K version of the Kreider library. I
|
|
especially need the password functions for SU and CHOWN.
|
|
|
|
David George
|
|
72240,134
|
|
|
|
There are 2 Replies.
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|
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#: 3639 S3/Languages
|
|
20-May-90 23:12:35
|
|
Sb: #3635-#Kreider fseek() bug
|
|
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
|
|
To: David George 72240,134 (X)
|
|
|
|
David,
|
|
|
|
>There seems to be a small problem with fseek() in the Kreider library. >I am
|
|
using fseek(fp, --p, 2); to position the file pointer at the end >of a file and
|
|
then back up character by character.
|
|
|
|
Is the variable "p" initilized as a LONG?
|
|
|
|
I use the exact same code in the version of TAIL that I wrote and it works just
|
|
dandy.
|
|
|
|
Mark
|
|
|
|
There are 2 Replies.
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#: 3642 S3/Languages
|
|
21-May-90 05:43:25
|
|
Sb: #3639-#Kreider fseek() bug
|
|
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
|
|
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
|
|
|
|
Gee...you caught the mistake I usually make when using fseek(). Wish I had a
|
|
nickel for each time etc. <grin>
|
|
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
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|
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#: 3665 S3/Languages
|
|
21-May-90 22:03:12
|
|
Sb: #3642-Kreider fseek() bug
|
|
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
|
|
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
|
|
|
|
James,
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|
|
|
He he....yeah, I'm real careful about that stuff now.
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|
|
|
Mark
|
|
|
|
#: 3699 S3/Languages
|
|
22-May-90 17:26:17
|
|
Sb: #3639-Kreider fseek() bug
|
|
Fm: David George 72240,134
|
|
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41
|
|
|
|
Yes I have p as long ( long p = 0L; )
|
|
|
|
Did you compile your version of TAIL with the Kreider Clib.l or Microware.
|
|
I only have the problem with the Kreider Clib
|
|
|
|
David
|
|
|
|
#: 3652 S3/Languages
|
|
21-May-90 10:46:03
|
|
Sb: #3635-Kreider fseek() bug
|
|
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
|
To: David George 72240,134 (X)
|
|
|
|
David -
|
|
|
|
Interesting problem. I also have a small problem like that in my 'more'
|
|
program... backing up too far.
|
|
|
|
Try dropping a note directly to Carl on this... (71076,76). Also, I'll have a
|
|
look a few things here. (I have all the clib sources, but not always the
|
|
ability to unearth the problems!)...
|
|
|
|
Pete
|
|
|
|
#: 3636 S13/Atari ST
|
|
20-May-90 21:04:59
|
|
Sb: M$OS9Lvl query
|
|
Fm: David George 72240,134
|
|
To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I am starting to mess around with OSK on my Atari Mega2 (soon to be 4Meg).
|
|
|
|
What I was wondering was if there is anyway to read the Level of OS9 from
|
|
the INIT module. There is a spot for it (M$OS9Lvl), but I need to know
|
|
how to read it from within a program written in C.
|
|
|
|
I am running professional OS9 Ver2.2
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|
|
|
David George
|
|
72240,134
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|
|
#: 3654 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
21-May-90 17:13:59
|
|
Sb: #Extra owend
|
|
Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
|
|
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
|
|
|
|
I am listing the error trap section in a procedure I'm working on. The
|
|
procedure is called by another procedure which has some overlay windows. In the
|
|
for/next loop for error 2 and 3 it requires an additional "RUN gfx2("owend")"
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or the windows in the calling procedure are out of sinc. Does anyone have any
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idea why??
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9 errno=ERR RUN gfx2("owset",1,12,10,60,3,0,2) RUN
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gfx2("owset",1,10,9,60,3,2,0) RUN gfx2("curoff") IF errno=216 THEN PRINT PRINT
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TAB(2); "THERE IS NO FILE IN THE CURRENT DIRECTORY WITH THAT NAME" FOR x=1 TO
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30000 NEXT x ENDIF IF errno=2 OR errno=3 THEN PRINT PRINT TAB(8); "TEXT
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FORMATTING INTERRUPTED" FOR x=1 TO 30000 NEXT x RUN gfx2("owend") ENDIF RUN
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gfx2("curon") RUN gfx2("owend") RUN gfx2("owend") 10 END
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#: 3655 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 17:19:08
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Sb: #3654-Extra owend
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
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Phil -
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Your message came out 'helped' by the CIS message formatter.... To save a
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message like that (tabular format), best bet is to type POST UNFORMATTED or
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'su' when saving it.
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Also - a B09 guru I'm not.. Kev or others are a better choice, but I'll take a
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look at it when it comes back in from you...
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Pete
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#: 3663 S10/Tandy CoCo
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21-May-90 20:31:26
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Sb: #3654-Extra owend
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
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Phil - I assume the program is packed when you run it. An error 2 or 3 could
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occur at any time while the program is running, but even so, I see no reason
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why the overlays wouldn't work right....
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Well ok, yes. If you had an extra overlay open and hit BREAK, then your error
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routine needs to go back to the right spot. That's not easy to do, so how about
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this: keep a variable which you pass around called "overlaycount" or something.
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Maybe the error routine or your main routine could keep track that way?
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#: 3662 S5/OS9 Users Group
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21-May-90 20:21:02
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Sb: #pch Phantomgraph
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Fm: Chuck Watters 70115,536
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To: CWATTERS 70115,536 (X)
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I am looking for a printer patch to run Phantomgraph on my DMP 200 printer
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#: 3666 S5/OS9 Users Group
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21-May-90 22:03:20
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Sb: #3662-pch Phantomgraph
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: Chuck Watters 70115,536 (X)
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Chuck,
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Here is the patch file you asked for (re: DMP200 patch to Phantomgraph)
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Here are the offsets to patch the DMPTANDY.DRV printer driver to work
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with a DMP-200.
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Offset Old New
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------ --- ---
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$019F $40 $32
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$01A4 $04 $00
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Mark
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#: 3667 S9/Utilities
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22-May-90 03:37:54
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Sb: #Help with Shar
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: all
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Help. I downloaded the Shar util, compiled it, and tried to run it on
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a file with "shar -u unsit.shz". Zippo. Or at worst, wrote a char on
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the screen. Has anyone used this yet? The ident of my compile is:
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Header for: shar
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Module size: $266A #9834
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Module CRC: $C4E9D6 (Good)
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Hdr parity: $64
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Exec. off: $001B #27
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Data Size: $18B2 #6322
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Edition: $02 #2
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Ty/La At/Rv: $11 $81
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Prog mod, 6809 obj, re-en
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Thanks!
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#: 3676 S9/Utilities
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22-May-90 11:09:31
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Sb: #3667-#Help with Shar
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Kevin -0
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A 'shar' is just an ascii file... it's a SHELL ARCHIVE that contains both the
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script and data files to unpack itself. If you had a Unix bourne shell, you'd
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just unpack it by doing a:
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/bin/sh <filename>
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The .shz suffix makes me wonder.... there IS no standard suffix for a SHAR
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file. Also, the 'z' is usually tacked onto something that's been 'compress'ed.
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Try uncompressing it first (use a compress -d), and then see if it's ASCII.
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Then try the SHAR tool.
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Pete
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P.S. The UNSHAR I have occasionally crashes... dunno if they're the same.
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#: 3701 S9/Utilities
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22-May-90 17:40:32
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Sb: #3676-Help with Shar
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete - thx. I'm trying to undo a file called UNSIT.SHZ from the new uploads
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section of UNIXFORUM. I'd love to see such a Mac Stuffit file unstuffer
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available under OS9 (which is what this is supposed to be source for).
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I'll try compress first. Thx!
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#: 3705 S9/Utilities
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22-May-90 18:04:53
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Sb: #3676-#Help with Shar
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete - ummm, where do I find the Compress util? <grin> Can't seem to find one
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for us. - kev
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#: 3710 S9/Utilities
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22-May-90 19:40:31
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Sb: #3705-Help with Shar
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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Kev -
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Mebbe I'm the only one that has it, although I thought it was here as well.
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I'll upload it if it's not here....
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Pete
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P.S. Our (os9/6809) compress will only handle 12bit compression... typical
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unix compression is done at 16 bit... were you aware of that?
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#: 3670 S1/General Interest
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22-May-90 08:37:15
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Sb: dead TTX
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Bill,
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Any life left in that TTX terminal I sent you?
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My last working unit shot craps last weekend... no doubt the power supply. I
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now have 7 just like it! :-)
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Before I ditch the darn things and open up a lot of space in the basement, I
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may try dropping in an alternate ps. Do you happen to have the voltages written
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down .. or if it's still breating, could you stick a probe on it?
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I've got two notes scribbled down ... one shows+5 on the heavy red and black
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combo, the other + and a - 12 volts.
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The other note, shows the +5VDC and 24VDC.
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Details, details . .. they're always getting in the way!
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Steve
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#: 3683 S10/Tandy CoCo
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22-May-90 12:29:57
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Sb: #3552-Pictures Needed
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Dale L. Puckett 71446,736
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Dale,
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Sorry to be out of touch so long .... Give me a call and I'll give you what you
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need.
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Paul
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#: 3694 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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22-May-90 13:13:48
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Sb: #3462-Multi-user OS9 BBS
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Michael Wood 71631,340
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Mike,
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You might want to call Ed hathaway at Second City Software. They should be
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starting work on one soon.
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Paul
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#: 3697 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 15:04:44
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Sb: #Univ BBS Marketing
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Fm: James D. Denboer 76226,2273
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To: All
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The University of California in Santa Cruz has set up a BBS in the 415 area -
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415 524 9625 - with info about their Computer Science Institute that offers
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short courses this summer in -Unix, C, Networks, Fuzzy Theory, Geographical
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Information Systems, Fault Tolerant Computing, Technical Writing, and more.
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Plus free magazines to callers.
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What I'm wondering is if people would call this BBS - I'm studying the
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conference and course registration market and see a tremendous slump in
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registration.
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What is going on out there - why aren't people registering for conferences? Are
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corporations not funding this anymore? Would you be someone who would call in
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for info? Or would you rather request info by easyplex?
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#: 3709 S15/Hot Topics
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22-May-90 19:30:37
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Sb: #3697-Univ BBS Marketing
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: James D. Denboer 76226,2273
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Well....those conferences sound quite interesting, but I'm trying to even cut
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back on my phone bill, much less the charges for seminars, food, lodging,
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travel, and the like!
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#: 3700 S3/Languages
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22-May-90 17:33:31
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Sb: fseek() function
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Fm: David George 72240,134
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To: 71076,76
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Carl,
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I seem to be having a small problem with the fseek() call in your library.
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When I use fseek(fp, --p, 2) to postion the pointer at the end of a file
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and read backwards it (fseek) go back to far. This is for the TAIL program.
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I have compiled successfully on both my Atari with Professional OS9 and with
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the standard Microware CLIB.L However I like the additional features your
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lib offers so I use it whenever possible. Also any news on when a 68K version
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of your CLIB will be available? I especially like the password functions.
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David George
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72240,134
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