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Computer underground Digest Wed Apr 3, 1996 Volume 8 : Issue 27
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ISSN 1004-042X
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Editor: Jim Thomas (cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu)
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News Editor: Gordon Meyer (gmeyer@sun.soci.niu.edu)
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Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
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Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish
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Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith
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Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
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Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
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Ian Dickinson
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Cu Digest Homepage: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest
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CONTENTS, #8.27 (Wed, Apr 3, 1996)
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File 1--CDA Court Challenge: Update #3 (day 3)
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File 2--CDA HEARING REPORT--Day 3, April 1
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File 3--Howard Rheingold's Affidavit
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File 4--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 25 Mar, 1996)
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CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION APPEARS IN
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THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE.
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:09:24 -0800 (PST)
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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@EFF.ORG>
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Subject: File 1--CDA Court Challenge: Update #3 (day 3)
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The CDA Challenge, Update #3
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By Declan McCullagh / declan@well.com / Redistribute freely
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April 1, 1996
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PHILADELPHIA -- Chief Judge Dolores Sloviter's mouth fell open in
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astonishment this afternoon when net.culture guru Howard Rheingold
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testified that some online communities elect cyberjudges to hear
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disputes. Sloviter asked if realspace judges "can escape to this
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community?" Judge Stewart Dalzell wondered: "How are they selected?
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Is there impeachment?"
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The court's questions of Rheingold -- who appeared in a glowing blue
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suit, an iridescent pink shirt, and the first tie he's worn in a
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decade -- showed that the judges hearing our challenge to the CDA are
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trying hard to understand the Net. But while the three-judge panel was
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fascinated by Rheingold, they just didn't connect with him.
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This was due largely to the skilled lawyering of the Department of
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Justice's Patricia Russotto -- the Marcia Clark of this case. During
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her cross-examination, Russotto repeatedly steered Rheingold away from
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describing relatively understandable online communities like the WELL
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-- and towards hangouts like MUDs and MOOs that he said are inhabited
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by "dwarves, wizards, and princesses." Belittling those online
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communities, Russotto repeatedly dismissed them as "these fantasy
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worlds" and tried to confuse the judges by tossing a string of
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acronyms at them, staccato.
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Judge Dalzell rose to the challenge: "All right, I'll take the bait.
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What's a MUD?"
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Like Dalzell, Judge Sloviter is enjoying this case. As the chief judge
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of the U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals, she usually deals with
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lawyers, not expert witnesses, and clearly likes to quiz them herself.
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Responding to Rheingold's description of MUDs, she said: "I don't know
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about being a wizard, but I'd be a princess."
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Eventually the line of questioning turned to BBSs, and Russotto tried
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once again to damage Rheingold's credibility, saying he had stated
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under oath that BBSs were "open to everyone" but had just testified
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that adult BBSs were not. He clarified, and rallied when asked if he
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let his 11-year old daughter surf the Net unsupervised: "I teach her
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that just as there are nutritious things to put in your body, there
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are nutritious things to put in your mind."
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Russotto continued, rapidfire:
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"Do you really think that Hamlet depicts sexual or excretory acts in a
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patently offensive manner?"
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"You have not participated in virtual communities built around
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trading sexually-explicit images, correct?"
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"You are aware that sexually-explicit networks can form around a BBS?"
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"Virtual communities can form around such a BBS?"
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"Some Usenet newsgroups carry sexually-explicit materials?"
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"An ISP can decide to carry certain newsgroups?"
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"The particular server you're on could decide to carry the alt.sex
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and alt.binaries hierarchy?"
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The tension had heightened earlier in the day, just before lunch, when
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Russotto tried to prevent Rheingold from testifying. When we
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introduced the celebrated author of "Virtual Communities" as our
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witness, Russotto objected: "We would submit that his expert opinion
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is not relevant to this case." Battering Rheingold with a quick series
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of questions, the DoJer forced Rheingold to stumble. ACLU attorney
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Chris Hansen quickly rescued his witness and Sloviter overruled
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Russotto's objection: "The court will hear Mr. Rheingold."
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Over lunch in the courthouse cafeteria, I talked with Rheingold, who
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was understandably nervous from the drumming he had experienced
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minutes earlier. Of course, the very fact that we were chatting like
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old friends demonstrated the power of a virtual community -- we had
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communicated in one form or another every day for the last year, but
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we had never met in person before.
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Like the man himself, Rheingold's testimony was interesting and
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colorful, unlike that of Bill Burrington, the director of public
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policy for America Online, who was the first witness of the day. A
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good number of courtroom observers, including myself and some
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reporters, snoozed through most of Burrington's statements.
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I was more-or-less awake enough to realize that Burrington was once
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again characterizing AOL as a "resort pool with lifeguards" next to
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the wild, untamed ocean of the Internet, with its predators and
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sharks: "There is a channel to the Internet. You can be whisked out
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into the sea." His evils-of-the-Net description confused Judge
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Sloviter, who asked: "When you say whisked out into the sea, you don't
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mean involuntarily whisked?"
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Tony Coppolino from the DoJ cross-examined Burrington. Coppolino seems
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to be the most cyber-savvy DoJer and the leader of their legal team on
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this case. Like Russotto, he doesn't pass up an opportunity to damage
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the credibility of our witnesses:
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Judge Sloviter: "How many newsgroups are available on AOL?"
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Burrington: "Up to 20,000."
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Judge Dalzell: "I thought someone said 30,000."
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Coppolino: "I have a stipulation here saying 15,000."
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Pressed by Coppolino, Burrington admitted that AOL didn't carry
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Playboy or Penthouse because the material was "inappropriate for
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families and children." Later Coppolino suggested that AOL has
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problems with pedophiles and child pornographers, asking Burrington to
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describe a case where an AOLer found children's names from a chat room
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then sent them sexually-explicit images. Burrington parried: "This is
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the first such incident. We terminated his account immediately and are
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cooperating with Federal law enforcement."
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When HotWired honcho Andrew Anker took the stand, the questioning
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turned to alt.sex.bondage. Judge Sloviter started by asking: "What is
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alt.sex.bondage? What does that mean?"
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Turns out that HotWired had published a story about the newsgroup,
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though by the end of the questioning, the judges seemed convinced that
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HotWired was a net.porn haven and were surprised when Anker estimated
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that much less than 10 percent of his web site's content was
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sexually-explicit. Again, Judge Dalzell tossed us a few sympathetic
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questions: "If you were to label your web site as adult, would it
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scare off advertisers?"
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After some brief testimony by ACLU plaintiff Stephen Donaldson of Stop
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Prisoner Rape, Barry Steinhardt took the stand. Steinhardt is the
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associate director of the ACLU -- I first got to know him when he
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blasted CMU for censoring its USENET feed years ago -- and was subject
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to an antagonistic cross-examination from Craig Blackwell. Blackwell
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relied on his boss Tony Coppolino for technical tips, and stumbled a
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few times, like when he confused AOL with a web site on the Internet:
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Blackwell: "The ACLU has two Internet sites, right?"
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Steinhardt: "No. We have one Internet site and we are a content
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provider on America Online."
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During the DoJ's questioning of Steinhardt, a few points emerged:
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* The content the ACLU posts to the web and AOL is educational.
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* The ACLU controls content on its web site but not in AOL chat
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rooms and discussion groups.
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* The ACLU is concerned that the CDA subjects it to liability for
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"indecent" material, including George Carlin's monologues it has
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placed online.
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* The DoJ is trying to draw a distinction between "indecent" images
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of couples engaged in sexual intercourse and educational
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"indecent" material that they will claim is not going to be
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prosecuted under the CDA.
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We're still wondering who the DoJ will call as their pro-CDA
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witnesses. The two prime suspects are someone supposedly from the
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Department of Defense and a computer scientist from Carnegie Mellon
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University.
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I suspect that the DoD guy is the gent who's been sharing the second
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row of courtroom seats with me -- a grey-haired gentleman always
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sporting a nondescript grey flannel suit. He's been sitting on the DoJ
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side of the courtroom (the ACLU is on the left, of course), and after
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court adjourned he was confabbing with them about plans to meet later
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in the day.
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I walked over and asked Grey Flannel Suit if he was with the DoJ, and
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he replied: "I just do some computer work for them." I was asking Grey
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Flannel for his name when DoJ attorney Jason Baron jumped between us:
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Baron: "He can't talk to you."
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McCullagh: "Why don't you let him make that decision for himself?"
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Baron: "I make decisions for him."
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McCullagh: "What's his name?"
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Baron: "He has no comment."
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I'll bet anyone five bucks that Grey Flannel is from the NSA.
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The other pro-CDA witness is almost certainly Dan Olsen, a Mormon who
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is the head of the computer science department at Brigham Young
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University and the incoming director of the Human Computer Interaction
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Institute at Carnegie Mellon University. (The HCI Institute at CMU is
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known as a dumping ground for faculty who can't make the cut in the
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justly-renowned CMU computer science department.)
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Of course, CMU is the school that is considering what cyberlibertarian
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attorney Harvey Silverglate calls an "Orwellian speech code," and
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erotic USENET newsgroups are still banned from almost all campus
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computers. Since CMU spawned Marty Rimm, who tried to sell his
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unethical research to the DoJ and whose study helped pass the CDA,
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it's appropriate that CMU affiliates are helping the DoJ defend the
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damned CDA after all.
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Today's testimony ended our case, with the exception of one of our
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witnesses who couldn't make it earlier. Albert Vezza is the associate
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director of MIT's Lab for Computer Science and a PICS guru who will be
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testifying for us on April 12 or April 15. With the exception of
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Vezza, those two days will be devoted to the DoJ's arguments alleging
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that the CDA is constitutional and should be upheld by the court.
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Stay tuned for more reports.
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We're back in court on 4/12, 4/15, and 4/26. The DoJ will reveal the
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identity of their expert witnesses on 4/3 or 4/8.
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Mentioned in this CDA update:
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Howard Rheingold <http://www.well.com/~hlr/>
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CMU and the Rimm study <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~declan/rimm/>
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CMU's HCI Institute <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~hcii/>
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Dan Olsen at BYU <http://www.cs.byu.edu/info/drolsen.html>
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Censorship policy at BYU <http://advance.byu.edu/pc/releases/guidelines.html>
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Censorship at CMU <http://joc.mit.edu/>
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USENET censorship at CMU <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kcf/censor/>
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HotWired / WIRED <http://www.hotwired.com/>
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PICS information <http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/PICS/>
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These and previous CDA updates are available at:
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<http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/>
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<http://www.epic.org/free_speech/censorship/lawsuit/>
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To subscribe to the fight-censorship list, send "subscribe" in the
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body of a message addressed to:
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fight-censorship-request@andrew.cmu.edu
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Other relevant web sites:
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<http://www.eff.org/>
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<http://www.aclu.org/>
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<http://www.cdt.org/>
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 23:24:19 PST
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From: jblumen@interramp.com
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Subject: File 2--CDA HEARING REPORT--Day 3, April 1
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CDA HEARING REPORT--Day 3, April 1
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By Mark Mangan, markm@bway.net, co-author of Sex, Laws and
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Cyberspace (http://www.spectacle.org/freespch/). Please repost freely
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in relevant forums.
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I arrived at the third day of the hearing and said hello to the free
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speech contingent. We all rose as the three judges entered the court,
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then took our seats and prepared to begin. Facing us was the
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panel--needless to say, all dressed in black. Judge Dalzell, a
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balding gentleman with wild, white hair, glasses and an easy going
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demeanor. On the right sat Judge Buckwalter, with glasses, a greyish
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full head of hair and a somewhat serious disposition. In the middle
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sat Judge Sloviter, a woman with a bright smile, darkish pulled back
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hair and a laptop opened in front of her. She is the head judge of
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the panel and the 3rd circuit court of appeals. She ran the
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proceedings.
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Unusually, all of the direct testimony from the plantiffs in this case
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was received in written form. The DOJ then had the opportunity to
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call the plaintiffs, and their witnesses, into court for some cross
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examination. The government did not come out blazing with tough
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questions. In retrospect it seems that they were simply trying to
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show that the CDA is not at all broad and those who would fall afoul
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of this toothless new law, could easily take precautions to sidestep
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prosecution.
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First up to the stand was William Burrington, an Assistant General
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Counsel for America Online. He was well dressed and well spoken:
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clear, concise, and prepared. As the DOJ's Tony Cappelletti
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questioned him, he did much to educate the panel on the nature of
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online services in relation to the Internet at large.
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In describing his company, Burrington chose the metaphor of a closed,
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private pool: it has lanes, lifeguards, and hands which check the
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temperature of
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the pool. AOL also provides a quick channel out to the sea of
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information--the Internet. In contrast, Internet Service Providers
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(ISPs) offer a straight, unmonitored conduit out to this sea.
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He went on to explain how AOL draws together original content from
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some third parties, such as the New York Times, Atlantic Monthly, and
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other popular newspapers and magazines. Judge Sloviter asked about
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Penthouse and if AOL carried it. Burrington responded, "No." Looking
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for smut, she tried to continue her questioning, but admitted "I don't
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know any more" such magazines.
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DOJ: "I know one more. Do you have Hustler?"
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WB: "No. We have Boating magazine."
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Some laughter rippled through the courtroom.
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The government then asked Burrington about magazines such as
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Smithsonian Monthly. If AOL provided pictures of naked people from
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remote African tribes (as seen in National Geographic) would this, in
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his opinion, put it at risk of being prosecuted under the CDA.
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Burrington's response: "Absolutely."
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They then went into a discussion of America Online's Terms of Service,
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which enforces its own kind of decency standard. Burrington explained
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that AOL, with 4 to 5 million users, promoted the concept of community
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and banned hateful, obscene, harmful, and offensive material.
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Burrington explained the parental control features that allow the
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holder of the master account to restrict certain functions and areas
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of the service for children with a different userid on the same
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account. Parents can block access to any or all of the different chat
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rooms as well as "Instant Messages" between members. In the context
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of the Internet, parents can restrict newsgroups or just disable the
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ability to download binary graphic files from usenet messages. AOL
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has also permenantly blocked certain groups which "are so obvious on
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the face to carry such things as child porn." Burrington then
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described AOL's negotiations with certain companies that offer
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filtering services for the World Wide Web, saying that his company
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expected to integrate such controls by the summer. AOL has also
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agreed to incorporate a browser which is compliant with the rating
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system standards being developed. Importantly, he explained that AOL
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could never expect to control the content of the Internet in the way
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it monitors its "pool."
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When Burrington was questioned about the ability of children to get to
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all AOL offerings if they obtain the password, he stressed the
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importance of parental responsibility. He said giving the kids the
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keys is like leaving the keys in the car in the garage. He also
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stressed the fact that AOL has created a community which encourages
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users to keep their eyes out for any criminal activity.
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WB: "We are trying to educate parents. Just because you are in front
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of a computer screen, don't throw away common sense. Just like in the
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physical world, don't leave your children alone in shopping malls."
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When asked by Judge Buckwalter whether he felt AOL was complying with
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the good faith defense of the CDA, Burrington responded, "I'm not
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sure. I don't know. There are many parts of it that are not clear."
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When asked by Judge Sloveter about the "surveillance" on AOL,
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Burrington became unusually defensive about this term. He said he
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prefered the word "patrolling."
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Judge Sloveter: "I don't know what else to call it."
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WB: "Our people are sensitive to that."
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The judges were finished and Burrington stepped down. He had given a
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polished testimony, covering all the bases and never at a loss for
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words or a clear explanation. During a brief recess I talked to a few
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people who were a bit skeptical of AOL's indecency policy and vague
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"Terms of Service," which seemed to broadly restrict much of the
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material covered under the CDA. Perhaps they felt that the government
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would be able to make the argument that if an online service can
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competently and peacefully enforce decency in their pool, the FCC can
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do it in the sea.
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Personally, I felt that Burrington presented an excellent example of
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an alternative for children. The testimony showed that the government
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is not implementing the "least restrictive means" of caring for our
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children if there are other choices and online alternatives.
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The next plantiff to take the stand was Stephen Donaldson, the
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president of Stop Prisoner Rape. A man with a buzzcut, long sideburns
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and reserved demeanor, Donaldson answered affirmatively to questions
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establishing that his organization attempted to inform the public
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about the problem of prisoner rape and the concomitant issues of
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sexually transmitted diseases, such as AIDS. When asked if his Web
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site included a lot of "street language," he answered, "most prisoners
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are not educated in latin. They use anglo-saxon english."
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Donaldson's testimony was short. He simply made the point that much
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of the material on his site is of a serious nature and in a language
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that prisoners, many of them uneducated, can understand. He feared
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that much of the material--stories, advice, and statistics--would be
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found illegal under the CDA.
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Up next was Andrew L. Anker, the president of Hotwired. DOJ lawyer
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Craig Blackwell started with a reference to an exhibit that recently
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ran on his site, that included material by Allen Ginsberg.
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Blackwell asked if was concerned that this would be prosecuted under
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the CDA.
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AA: "I don't understand what patently offensive' and indecent' mean
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and under what community standards they would be prosecuted.
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Considering the vague language, I'm concerned about everything."
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Blackwell then talked about a Wired magazine piece on
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"alt.sex.bondage" that recently ran on the site. Judge Sloviter
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interrupted to inquire about "alt." When told that it meant
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alternative, she asked, "So people can talk about alternative sexual
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bondage?"
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The judges then began to hit Anker with some tough, direct questions.
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Buckwalter: " You are a content provider doing nothing to identify
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your content and restrict your material to minors."
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AA: "Yes."
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Judge Dalzell raised the concept of the PICS rating system. This had
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first been mentioned during Burrington's testimony, at which time
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Judge Sloviter
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asked for a technical explanation. Before he could answer, however,
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she asked Cappelletti if someone more technical would be called later
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to go over this and he answered yes. This concept continued to
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intrigue the judges, who subsequently brought it up a few times.
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Unfortunately neither the court nor the witnesses were properly versed
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on the subject.
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Judge Dalzell: "Are you familiar with the PICs proposal? It would
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involve self-rating. How would you rate yourself?"
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Anker was unprepared to pigeonhole his site according to a
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hypothetical system--particularly one that he was not familiar with.
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He avoided the direct question.
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Judge Dalzell: "If it were based on the movie rating system, how would
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you rate yourself?"
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AA: "To be honest..."
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Judge Sloveter (interrupting): "--we assume you're being honest."
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Anker did not like the line of questioning and tried to extricate
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himself from it. He attempted to show that it was more complicated
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than a single rating for the whole site. When he explained that he
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did not agree with how this system mildly rated violence which he
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found more offensive than the gratuitous sex shots in film, Judge
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Dalzell kept on him. Asking about the Ginsberg material: "So what
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would you rate it: G? PG? R?" He then brought up the
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alt.sex.bondage article: "Would you have to rate the whole thing
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NC-17?"
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AA: "Well, there are a lot of pages, a lot of systems?"
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Anker was simply not prepared to rate his site on the stand. He said
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that he had children and would not want them to read the
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al.sex.bondage article, but was noncommittal on how to block them via
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a rating system.
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Howard Rheingold was then called to the stand. He was dressed in a
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bright pink shirt, a crazy colored tie, and a pastel, aqua-blue suit.
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He has a buzz cut and a big mustache. The government immediately
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stood up to argue that he could offer nothing factual or relevant to
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the case and had not even reviewed any of the sites in question.
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Judge Sloviter seemed ready to boot him, when Chris Hansen intervened
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to explain that the
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debate was not just about Web sites and Rheingold was being offered
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to describe the community aspects of the Net--on which he had written
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a very popular and well-respected book. Judge Sloviter acquiesced,
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"It will be accepted for what it's worth. Now let's break for lunch."
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When everyone returned Rheingold described MUDs and MUSEs, which allow
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people to interact in real time creating fantasy lands online. The
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DOJ lawyer asked what exactly would be limited in these virtual
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community discussions on the Net if the CDA were enforced. The DOJ
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lawyer put on a high brow tone and tried to come right at him: "Do you
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think Michelangelo's David would be found as depicting sexual or
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excretory functions or organs in a patently offensive manner according
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to community standards?"
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Rheingold kindly brought her full force to a full stop: "Which
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community?"
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The court stopped dead for a moment as he effectively touched one of
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the absurd holes of the CDA language. She fumbled around and
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continued somewhere else. She raised the question of his daughter
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that he had mentioned earlier, eliciting that he did not supervise her
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on the Net.
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HR: "No. I teach her that just as there are nutritious things to put
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in your body, there are nutritious things to put in your mind."
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The questioning returned to the subject of MUDs, MUSEs and certain
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moderated groups that he had started. But the philosophical bent of
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his replies seemed to irk the panel--particularly, Judge Sloviter, who
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perhaps thought his dress was a mockery. When the lawyer was done she
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questioned him about the nature of these MUDs and MUSEs. Judge
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Sloviter: "So stop me if I'm wrong,... this fantasy world allows
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people to masquerade,... or rather correct me if I'm wrong, ... this
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fantasy land --"
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"...actually, no, let me add--" Rheingold tried to interrupt but she
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bluntly gestured that she had not finished.
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Judge Sloveter (a bit impatient): "It allows them to masquerade, so
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they can play act and pretend they are other people..."
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Rheingold pulled up and interjected his point: "You're leaving
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something out. These users create an environment independent of
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whether they are there or not."
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Sloveter looked at him. "Leave that for the existentialists."
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It was a harsh statement, the court hushed and it looked as though
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Sloviter had it in for him. In response to a question raised earlier
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in the testimony about how much sexual content existed in these online
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fantasylands, Rheingold had thrown out the number 10%. Sloveter now
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came back with it. "What would happen if sexual content were removed?
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You said less than 10% existed..." Rheingold tried to respond--she
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continued, "...they could still play their castles in the air."
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With the head judge of this panel and the 3rd circuit court of appeals
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hitting him with her attorney blows, there wasn't much he could do.
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His testimony ended soon after.
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Barry Steinhardt, Associate Director of the ACLU, was the last to take
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the stand. He took his oath and the questioning began with the normal
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rigamorole about who he is and what he does. Soon he was talking
|
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about the ACLU's Web site and its presence on AOL. The DOJ introduced
|
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a particular discussion which had recently taken place on their online
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bulletin board, had involved the former Surgeon General Joyce Elders
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and covered masturbation. He expressed his fear that such serious
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kind of debate would be prosecuted by the government if found online.
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When asked if the ACLU site had posted any sexually explicit pictures,
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Steinhardt responded, "No. But we wouldn't hesitate to. If we had
|
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the site up during the Mapplethorpe controversy, we would have
|
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certainly put up examples of his work." He was being a little
|
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agressive, trying to throw it back in the DOJ's face.
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Steinhardt recounted an incident in which an organization which goes
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by ACLU (Always Causing Legal Unrest) posted a Jake Baker story on
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their bulletin board and the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) let
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it stand--in the name of free speech. He then quickly digressed into
|
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a quick discussion of the Jake Baker case for the court's edification.
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(See http://www.spectacle.org/freespch/baker.html) The court turned to
|
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the exhibit of the posted story and it must have turned their
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stomachs. (Baker liked to write about mutilating and raping young,
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innocent women.)
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When it was the judges' turn they recalled an earlier statement in
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which Steinhardt had said the ACLU had reviewed the possibility of
|
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limiting access to their site to adults via a credit card verification
|
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system and found that it would cost $144 thousand for a month.
|
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Buckwalter raised the hypothetical of the passage of the CDA: "I don't
|
|
think you would shut down your site. I think you would find a way to
|
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raise the money." The judge seemed to be goading him. Steinhardt
|
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said, "You can't put a price on free speech in cyberspace. And if you
|
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did, the ACLU probably couldn't afford it."
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Bringing up the self rating system, Judge Dalzell then asked, "Would
|
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the ACLU rate itself?"
|
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Steinhardt responded that the rating system is an "empty vessel where
|
|
third parties could step in and rate. I don't want to rate the ACLU,
|
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but I'm sure there are others who would."
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Referring to how he understood the PICS to work, the Judge returned,
|
|
"If you don't rate, you're blocked. What would you rate yourself?"
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Steinhardt: "We offer important, educational material for minors and
|
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would rate ourselves G. Others would probably rate us X."
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Judge Sloviter: "Would you not, as a matter of principle, refuse to
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rate yourself?"
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Steinhardt: "Yes."
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Although some of the more interesting moments came when the judges
|
|
questioned the witnesses, there were virtually no major cracks in the
|
|
whole of the testimony. The DOJ was rarely aggressive and seemed on
|
|
the whole to be taking notes for later, rather than pursuing a
|
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strategy.
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The case resumes on April 12 when the government will begin presenting
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its witnesses. On April 3 it will file papers with the court revealing
|
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who these witnesses are.
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-----------------------------
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Jonathan Wallace
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The Ethical Spectacle
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http://www.spectacle.org
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ACLU v. Reno plaintiff
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http://www.spectacle.org/cda/cdamn.html
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Co-author, Sex, Laws and Cyberspace
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(Henry Holt, 1996)
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http://www.spectacle.org/freespch/
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:32:51 -0800 (PST)
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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@EFF.ORG>
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Subject: File 3--Howard Rheingold's Affidavit
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[This is the rough draft of Howard Rheingld's affidavit. Read it! --Declan]
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I, Howard Rheingold, declare that:
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(1) I am a parent of an eleven year-old daughter, Mamie. My wife, Judy,
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and I recently celebrated our 28th anniversary. I'm an active PTA member,
|
|
a small business owner, and a voter. My wife and I believe strongly that
|
|
parents have an obligation to teach our children values, to give them the
|
|
opportunity to make their own moral choices. We also believe that open
|
|
communication among citizens, free from fear of government control, is
|
|
what holds democracies together.
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|
|
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(2) I've written books about technology and its effects on people and
|
|
institutions for the past ten years ("Tools for Thought," 1985,"
|
|
"Virtual Reality," 1991, "The Virtual Community," 1993). I write
|
|
"Tomorrow," a column about the Internet and its effects, syndicated by
|
|
King Features. I spend hours a day online, and have done so for ten
|
|
years. I have a real life with real people around me as much as anyone
|
|
else, but much of my business and social communication takes place
|
|
online. For me, it's a real place, inhabited by real people who can forge
|
|
deep bonds..
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|
|
|
(3) I know from long personal experience that people can build
|
|
communities from the relationships they grow online with other people who
|
|
share their interests and concerns. The new medium that connects
|
|
computers and communications networks transforms every desktop into a
|
|
printing press and place of assembly, a component of community-building
|
|
in technological society. An important part of civic life takes place there.
|
|
|
|
(4) Among the many things left out of the distorted popular image of the
|
|
Internet are people for whom the Net is a lifeline: the cancer support
|
|
groups, the disabled people who find a new freedom in this medium, the
|
|
artists and educators and small businesses who use the Internet as a way
|
|
for citizens to publish and communicate to other citizens. Experience has
|
|
taught me that many-to-many communication, used wisely, can magnify the
|
|
power of individuals to discuss and publish and make possible
|
|
collaborative thinking among people all over the world.
|
|
|
|
(5) In my life, the virtual community became my real community. The
|
|
people I first got to know in open, group conversation online have become
|
|
my friends in the real world where real things happen to people. I sat
|
|
with two people when they were dying, spoke at two funerals, danced at
|
|
two weddings, passed the hat quietly among other virtual community
|
|
members to help out a member in dire circumstance. The community I know
|
|
takes place among people who matter to me, and online communication is
|
|
what that enables thousands of geographically dispersed interest groups
|
|
to build communities. For people who live in remote areas, who share
|
|
certain special interests, from mathematics to politics to the problems
|
|
of being an Alzheimer's caregiver to the civic affairs of a small town or
|
|
large city, virtual communities enable people to form associations that
|
|
can enrich their lives and often carry over into face to face society. In
|
|
modern society, it is often difficult to find people who share interests
|
|
and values; the virtual community enables people to find and get to know
|
|
one another and to establish relationships they might otherwise never
|
|
have formed, relationships that often carry over into face to face
|
|
friendships.
|
|
|
|
(6) I grew so fascinated with the nature of online communities that I
|
|
travelled the world, visiting virtual communities in Japan and Europe, as
|
|
well as America. I interviewed the people who built the ARPAnet and grew
|
|
it into the Internet. I interviewed the people who built the Minitel
|
|
system in France. In both instances, these media for social communication
|
|
were never intended for people to communicate in new ways. The ARPAnet
|
|
was a defense-funded experiment in remote computing over
|
|
telecommunication wires because it was necessary for the scattered ARPA
|
|
computer researchers to run their data on each other's computers. The
|
|
programmers who built the first network started using it for social
|
|
communication. The early ARPA directors were wise enough to see that a
|
|
new medium for group communication had emerged, unexpectedly. Minitel was
|
|
designed as a distributed database, an electronic yellow pages, but
|
|
people insisted on using it to chat.
|
|
|
|
(7) The emergence of "social computing" via the Internet is an example of
|
|
people using a new tool as a means of human to human communication, and
|
|
the medium of many to many communication is still in its infancy. People
|
|
are not only building communities, but businesses, and political
|
|
information and communication associations. We have only begun to see the
|
|
social and civic uses people will make of the emrging medium. As these
|
|
examples show, the real virtue of cyberspace is its ability to permit and
|
|
even encourage innovation. If strict standards had been set at the
|
|
beginning, or if planners had insisted on one structure, and by either
|
|
means prohibited the ARPA or Minitel from carrying email and other
|
|
messages, one of the most vibrant and important parts of cyberspace would
|
|
never have developed.
|
|
|
|
(8) The topics that people discuss online constitute an enormous variety.
|
|
Every scientific specialty you could think of has its electronic mailing
|
|
list, text archive, web site. Support groups for scores of diseases are
|
|
especially important online. The online breast cancer or AIDS patients in
|
|
a small town who don't have any other support group, the Alzheimer's
|
|
caregivers and others who cannot leave the house or hospital, the
|
|
disabled who find a liberating barrier-free space online, derive vital
|
|
knowledge, comfort, and human connection for people in need. The
|
|
nonprofit organizations that set up shelters for battered children and
|
|
abused spouses. The international networks of medical researchers who
|
|
collaborate to cure disease. So many people will suffer tremendously if
|
|
censorious laws shut down Internet providers and unmoderated forums where
|
|
nobody can guarantee that nobody will say a taboo word at some time. Some
|
|
of these topics of necessity will involve speech that discusses "sexual
|
|
or excretory activities or organs.' In some cases, the people speaking
|
|
or the people listening will be minors for who the information is
|
|
important and useful. It would be a tragedy if fear of prosecution for
|
|
failing to police the utterances of every member of a virtual community
|
|
would lead to the closing of communities that alleviate suffering and
|
|
help people cope with some of the difficulties of modern life such as
|
|
life-threatening diseases or domestic violence.
|
|
|
|
(9) Several months ago, a very bright and articulate young man by the
|
|
name of Blaine Deatherage sent me an e-mail questionnaire as part of a
|
|
school project. I started an electronic correspondence. I learned, after
|
|
I got to know him, that he was born with spina bifida and hydrocephalus,
|
|
is confined to a wheel chair in near-total paralysis, and has trouble
|
|
communicating vocally. I didn't know that. All I knew was that he had a
|
|
lively mind and a way with words. Blaine and millions of others like him
|
|
have no other place to go. He's only sixteen. To deprive him of adult
|
|
conversation in the chess groups he participates in online would be a
|
|
tragedy. The groups to which he belongs, such as the chess discussions,
|
|
are likely to choose to exclude all minors rather than risk the
|
|
consequences should an adult member of the community use a taboo word.
|
|
|
|
(10) The examples of community I've mentioned are real people to me. When
|
|
my long online friend and sometime online verbal opponent Tom Mandel grew
|
|
fatally ill, he said goodbye online. The poignance of that experience,
|
|
and the looks on the faces of Tom's online friends when I stood up for
|
|
him at his funeral and gave a eulogy, are definitely real to me. When
|
|
Casey needed an operation, enough of her online conversational partners
|
|
bought posters from her to finance the medical procedure. When Kathleen
|
|
Johnson announced that she was dying, dozens of us, including myself,
|
|
took turns sitting with someone we had only known from the words we had
|
|
read on a computer screen.
|
|
|
|
(11) My daughter has used e-mail and the Internet for social communiction
|
|
and for researching her homework since she was eight years old. I told
|
|
her that she knows to use common sense and be alert when dealing with
|
|
adult strangers. If someone she doesn't know calls on the telephone, she
|
|
knows not to answer personal questions. I told her that some people
|
|
aren't who they pretend to be in real life and in cyberspace, and just
|
|
because someone sends her e-mail, it doesn't mean that person is a
|
|
friend. She knows the importance of nutritious food for her body, so I
|
|
told her that she has to be careful to put nutritious knowledge into her
|
|
mind, because the Internet consists of all kinds of mind-food, some of it
|
|
not very nutritious. I told her that if anyone said anything to her or
|
|
sent anything to her that made her feel bad or suspicious, that it was
|
|
okay and a good idea to show it to mommy or daddy.
|
|
|
|
(12) When I wired up her fifth-grade class to the Internet, on a line
|
|
donated by a local small Internet service provider, I told her class that
|
|
they were pioneers. I told them there were wonderful ways to learn and
|
|
communicate with interesting people on the Internet, and they were going
|
|
to show the rest of the people in the school, the school district, the
|
|
county, how you could help us use the Internet as a fun way to learn. I
|
|
told them that if they were caught doing anything they wouldn't be proud
|
|
to do in front of their parents, then the experiment would fail, and the
|
|
other classes and schools would probably think Internet for fifth graders
|
|
is a bad idea. But I also told them that I was showing them how to do
|
|
this because I knew I could count on them to make the right decisions.
|
|
They didn't fail me.
|
|
|
|
(13) Many people think cyberspace is just the World Wide Web and
|
|
solely involves information retrieval. That is incorrect. As the ARPA and
|
|
Minitel example illustrate, many if not most people who use cyberspace
|
|
find the most important and most used parts to be those that facilitate
|
|
many to many communication. Thus, I believe the most important parts are
|
|
newsgroups, chatrooms, mail exploders, and the like. There are many
|
|
different ways people around the world can use the network to communicate
|
|
with each other. Many scholarly and scientific groups use an automated
|
|
service that sends e-mail to everyone in the group of subscribers, who
|
|
can automatically send their responses to everyone in the group. There is
|
|
no human moderator who decides which e-mail to send to the group. People
|
|
who participate in such groups generally regulate their behavior
|
|
voluntarily. Bulletin board systems and conferences and newsgroups are
|
|
different ways of organizing public group conversations where nobody is
|
|
the moderator or editor.
|
|
|
|
(14) There are moderated groups where an expert in the field acts as
|
|
editor, deciding which of the submissions are published. Moderators
|
|
generally do not screen the membership; they only decide what is published.
|
|
|
|
(15) If the Communications Decency Act is enforced, all unmoderated sites
|
|
will either have to go out of business or set up pre-screening to make
|
|
sure only adults get access. Most unmoderated sites are non-profit. They
|
|
have a volume of both participants and of messages that is too large and
|
|
too widespread to permit prescreening. In addition, many unmoderated
|
|
sites have been set up long ago and the person who set them up is no
|
|
longer involved. Thus, there is no one around to do the screening. For
|
|
these reasons, many of the sites would have to be totally eliminated.I
|
|
fear that moderated groups won't fare much better. They also have so much
|
|
volume that no mderator can screen each message and presecreen each
|
|
subscriber.
|
|
|
|
(16) Even if a moderator could screen each message, I'm afraid that the
|
|
standards of the Act are so vague that they won't know what to screen.
|
|
|
|
(17) I'm concerned about the difficulty of defining a "community
|
|
standard" for a worldwide network. The way the Internet works, if a
|
|
geographic standard is applied to everyone in US jurisdiction, it would
|
|
have to be that of the most conservative place in the country. That would
|
|
stifle the net, not only domestically, but globally.
|
|
|
|
(18) I am convinced that screening of sexual and other objectionable
|
|
material can be accomplished with the kinds of software filtering that
|
|
all major online services and several commercial companies have offered.
|
|
I believe the power to determine what goes on or off the prohibited list
|
|
of knowledge in my household should stay in the household, and shouldn't
|
|
be seized by the State and used against citizens who don't conform to the
|
|
moral standards of a small segment of the population.
|
|
|
|
(19) Probably the most important potential of the Internet is in
|
|
community-building. People who are able to make contact with others who
|
|
share interests, to continue conversations with people in other
|
|
locations, of other races and beliefs and political persuasions, to get
|
|
together with fellow citizens locally and nationally, are engaged in
|
|
activities that are vital to the health of civic life and democracy. I
|
|
fear that a chilling effect on the use of online forums could damage
|
|
these important activities.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct."
|
|
|
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Executed on March 25, 1996."
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____________________
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Howard Rheingold
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------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:51:01 CST
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ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4) in /pub/Publications/CuD/
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aql.gatech.edu (128.61.10.53) in /pub/eff/cud/
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world.std.com in /src/wuarchive/doc/EFF/Publications/CuD/
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EUROPE: nic.funet.fi in pub/doc/CuD/CuD/ (Finland)
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