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BTN: Birmingham Telecommunications News
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COPYRIGHT 1988
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August 1988 Volume 1, Issue 5
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Table Of Contents
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Article Title Author
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Policy Statement and Disclaimer................Mark Maisel
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Editorial Column...............................Mark Maisel
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QuickBASIC 4.0 part 2..........................Jay Enterkin
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History Repeats Itself.........................Tom Egan
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The Annual Connection Picnic...................Bill Freeman
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Songs For Today................................Tyros
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For Your Information...........................Sohail Rabbani
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QuickBASIC Patches.............................Tim Straughn
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Profile........................................Chris Mohney
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Quotes and Other Nonsense......................Saint George
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Women and Telecommunications...................Michele Cahoon
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Speakee........................................Bud
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Whoops! You're Caught!.........................Gina Gossip
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From The Kitchen...............................Chez Stephan
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Known BBS Numbers..............................Mark Maisel
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Disclaimer and Statement of Policy for BTN
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We at BTN try our best to assure the accuracy of articles and
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information in our publication. We assume no responsibility for
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damage due to errors, ommisions, etc. The liability,if any for BTN, its
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editors and writers, for damages relating to any errors or ommisions,
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etc., shall be limited to the cost of a one year subscription to BTN,
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even if BTN, its editors or writers have been advised of the likelihood
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of such damages occurring.
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With the conclusion of that nasty business, we can get on with our
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policy for publication and reproduction of BTN articles. We publish
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monthly with a deadline of the fifteenth of the month prior to
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publication. If you wish to submit an article, you may do so at any
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time but bear in mind the deadline if you wish for your work to appear
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in a particular issue. It is not our purpose to slander or otherwise
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harm a person or reputation and we accept no responsibility for the
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content of the articles prepared by our writers. Our writers own their
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work and it is protected by copyright. We allow reprinting of articles
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from BTN with only a few restrictions. The author may object to a
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reprint, in which case he will specify in the content of his article.
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Othewise, please feel free to reproduce any article from BTN as long as
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the source, BTN, is specified, and as long as the author's name and the
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article's original title are retained. If you use one of our articles,
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please forward a copy of your publication to:
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Mark Maisel
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Editor, BTN
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221 Chestnut St.
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BHM, AL 35210-3219
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We thank you for taking the time to read our offering and we hope that
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you like it. We also reserve the right to have a good time while doing
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all of this and not get too serious about it.
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Editorial
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by Mark Maisel
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BTN is five issues old now. How about that? The articles continue to
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stream in on a somewhat regular basis with very little prodding from me.
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My admiration for the local folks who help make BTN is still growing. I
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am amazed that they can keep churning out interesting, informative, and
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amusing articles each month. Please take some time to comment about
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specific things you read in BTN that interest or impress you. The
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writers need your feedback in order to know if they are communicating
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effectively. The future looks even brighter for BTN and for Birmingham
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BBS' and their users.
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BTN has some big things planned for upcoming issues. We are going to
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try to dedicate an entire issue to yesteryear when a 300 baud modem was
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the cat's meow. We will highlight boards of old and some that have been
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around for much longer than you might think. Birmingham also has its
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fair share of software authors. We are going to take a look at them and
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their work. We have already done this with one piece of software,
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almost. Steve Lee, author of Swiss Army Shell, gave us an article on
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his creation that was featured in July. Please read it if you have not
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done so already. The reason that I said almost is because Steve is a
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resident of Anniston but who are we to be too technical? If you have
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any ideas that you think would interest readers or yourself, then please
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tell us about it. If you are shy about writing, then I will gladly work
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with you on an idea. Please post in BTN's conference on Channel 8250 if
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possible. If you cannot get on there, then use any EZNET node.
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As for Birmingham, all one needs to do is look around. Each time I hear
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someone say that there is a glut of boards in town, I see a new one pop
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up. In addition to new boards, older boards are making improvements to
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their existing services. America Online is adding two more nodes
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raising their total incoming lines to five. Pinson Valley, formerly
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Apple Valley, has installed a 9600 baud modem on node two for the lucky
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callers with a new high speed modem. Other events have been and are
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coming about involving users. Bill Freeman, SysOp of The Connection,
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held a picnic for local users and it turned out to be quite an event.
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See his article detailing the picnic in this issue. Bill is tentatively
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planning a New Years Eve party and I think it is a great idea. There
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have been some folks discussing with me online the idea of a summers end
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party, perhaps at a pool somewhere. Anyone got a huge pool and good
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liability insurance(just kidding)? Other groups of users are getting
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together and meeting each other. That is one of the reasons that BTN
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got started. As folks involved in BTN can tell you, we get together at
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least once per month to meet. Sometimes these meetings turn into
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parties or something. It is great fun to meet someone you have been
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conversing with for perhaps years without ever speaking or meeting face
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to face.
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Please take a look at "For Your Information" to get an idea of what sort
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of discussion you can be a part of on a Birmingham BBS. The messages
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within are good samples of the kind of exchanges that occur daily in
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discussion message bases on many of our boards.
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In closing I would like to say thanks again to the writers, readers, and
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supporters of BTN. I would also like to tell you that there will be a
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script questionnaire placed on some local boards soon. PLEASE take the
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time to answer these questions for us so that we can better provide the
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kind of reading in BTN that you want to see. Look here soon for the low
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down on EZNET.
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Quick BASIC 4.0
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by Jay Enterkin Part 2 of 2
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Hands-On Performance Comparison
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The following performance tests were run using identical source code
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compiled to stand-alone .EXE programs, with the Debug feature activated,
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and no math coprocessor present.
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Sinemark - This first test is a simple adaptation of the SINEWAVE.BAS
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program that is supplied with QB4. This test primarily shows the
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relative speed at which mathematical computations are performed, and
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also displays the sinewave on the screen as the program executes. QB3
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won an impressive victory here because no math coprocessor was present.
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QB4 is designed to work most efficiently with a math coprocessor, and
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suffers dramatic speed loss during math operations if one is not
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installed.
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SINEMARK.BAS QB3 QB4
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Program size (bytes) 40516 40007
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Speed 46 seconds 3 minutes 6 sec.
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Printa - This tests screen display speed only. It displays characters
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to the screen, clears the screen, and repeats the operation 10 times.
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QB4 has a clear speed advantage in displaying text on the screen.
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Note that this is a text display test and not graphics mode.
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PRINTA.BAS QB3 QB4
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Program size (bytes) 34814 27133
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Speed 22 seconds 13 seconds
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Variety - This test combines sequential file read, sequential file
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write, string functions, addition, multiplication, division,
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subtraction, and screen display operations into one program. It is
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interesting to note that in this combined test, one which most closely
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approximates the variety of tasks which I use QuickBASIC for daily at
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work, there was very little difference in overall speed.
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VARIETY.BAS QB3 QB4
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Program size (bytes) 37972 35815
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Speed 43 seconds 41 seconds
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In summary, QB3 is much faster at math operations if no math
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coprocessor is installed, while QB4 writes text to the screen
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considerably faster. The Variety test would seem to indicate that in
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programs which mix a wide variety of tasks, the overall execution speed
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virtually balances out. If a math coprocessor is present that would
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probably give QB4 an overall advantage in speed. Unfortunately I was
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not able to gain access to a machine with a math coprocessor in time to
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include that data in this article.
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Program size in these sample tests was approximately equal, with QB4
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showing slightly more compact code size. Bear in mind, however, that
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the reviewers cited in part 1 of this article noted that in many cases
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the code generated by QB4 was larger than that produced by QB3.
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The most recent information I have received indicates that Microsoft has
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fixed some of the (numerous) bugs in QB4 in a 4.00a version, but I have
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no information concerning updates, or even the release of the updated
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version, other than it is reportedly included in recent shipments of the
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Microsoft BASCOM 6.0 Basic Compiler package.
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Personally, it hasn't been easy for me to adjust to the QB4 environment.
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I don't care for the way the source code is automatically formatted as I
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key it in. The long list of bugs in QB4 bothers me as well. Even now I
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am using QB3 for the vast majority of my BASIC programming tasks. I may
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wait and complete my conversion to QB4 when the debugged updates become
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available.
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All tests were performed on a Compaq Deskpro 286-12 with 40mb factory
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hard drive.
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Errata: The following two paragraphs were accidentally lumped together
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in part 1 that appeared in BTN4 by the 'auto reformat' feature of my
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word processor. The correct rendering appears below:
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SUB...END SUB QB 4 Cannot be used in $Include files. Cannot have the
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same name as a variable (regardless of the variable type).
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TYPE..END TYPE There has been an unverified problem reported in QB
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when the record length is an odd number. A "FAR HEAP CORRUPT" error is
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generated. The problem reportedly occurs when the record length is an
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odd number of bytes. It does not seem to appear in BC, only QB. If you
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have an unusual, otherwise unexplained problem, try changing the record
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length to an even number.
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HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF----EVEN CONCERNING COMPUTERS
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by Tom Egan Co-Sysop America Online BBS
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For those of you that read my previous article in BTN, I have wonderful
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news. Even those of you that haven't, the news is still great. As most
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of ya'll will recall, one of the features of the previous article was
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extolling the joys of working with paper tape, that great medium that
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was not erasable, and provided permanent storage capabilities ( as long
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as you had no mice, etc ). Paper Tape is making a come-back !!! Just
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announced is a paper tape storage device that will record 600 GIGABYTES
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on only 2400 feet of paper tape. The tape is new though. It seems that
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it is a Polyester-based Substrate coated with an Infrared sensitive dye
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Polymer which will write at a rate of 10 megabits per second. A 2400
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foot reel of this half-inch tape will hold 600 Gigabytes of data at
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one-tenth the cost of magnetic tape.
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WOW!!! I can't wait for it to hit the PC market, what a deal!!!! I can
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get back to my original joy, paper-tape, and all you young'uns can also
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have the chance to experience the joys of this remarkable media. It'll
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be a shame not to be able to listen to the sweet sounds of the paper
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punch running though, but I guess that's modernization for you.
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Back now to the original ideas of this newsletter. I am going to skip
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the KIM and the REX temporarily, strictly because I'm not in the mood to
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discuss them at this moment, and scurry on to the famous ( infamous )
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Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I that I owned for numerous years.
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Now this was a machine to be proud of!!!! At the time when other
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computers were having a rough time of it, along comes Radio Shack ( whom
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I worked for at the time ), and in their audacity, they decide they are
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going to build and and market a Personal Computer! The TRS-80 MODEL I
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was a glorious machine in it's time. It came standard with 4k of RAM (
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when the competition only had 1K ), a tape ( cassette ) drive, actually
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a voice type cassette recorder for data storage, built in Tiny Basic ( 2
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letter commands only, but everyone else was selling Basic for $100 ), a
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monitor, keyboard, and power supply. This was everything a person needed
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to get started in computers. If I recall correctly, it was about $1100
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for the system as described. No software was available, but nobody
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bought programs in those days. We read the books on Basic, and anything
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we wanted to do, we wrote our own ( some useful, some not so useful ). I
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spent many LONG hours in front of that machine. My wife was THRILLED (
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yeah, right.... ) when I finished writing a program that would count
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from 0 to 1000 with no mistakes. The cassette tape provided a means of
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storing those valuable programs, so I no longer had to re-type them
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every time I wanted to use them, as I did on older machines, until I got
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the paper tape reader and punch. It took almost 4 months before I got my
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first "OUT OF MEMORY" error. I'll never forget that night, right in the
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middle of some heavy-duty programming, it stops and says "OUT OF
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MEMORY"!!!!!!!!! and locks up solid ^&%$&%!!! So much for that program,
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time to start over, but at least it taught me the need for backups.
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Also, I quickly learned about using GOOD tape, and making several
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copies. As good as the tape recorder/player was, sometimes it choked on
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a recorded program, and again, it was time to start typing all over
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again.
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Please don't get me wrong though, at the time, this was one of the best
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computers available.
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It wasn't very long after that, that I decided I HAD to have another 16k
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of MEMORY. Only $130 or so for the whole 16k, that wasn't too bad, about
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the same as 256k at todays prices, and this was 1977.
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I finally got the expanded memory, and then wanted to add an EXPANSION
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INTERFACE to boost my memory capacity to a whopping 64k ( in 16k
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increments, of course ). The expansion box gave me the room to install
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the added memory, and ALSO provided for adding a FLOPPY drive to the
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system.
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So long, cassette tape, the floppy drive was marvelous, 180k per
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diskette, that was about 3 tapes full ( 120 minute ones, at that ), and
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it read programs in the bat of an eye compared to the cassette tape. ***
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B U T *** no one told me when I got the unit ( maybe because I was the
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first, or close to it ), that the keyboard/computer connector that ran
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to the EXPANSION box had to be carefully cleaned every month or two, or
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the entire system would lock up, erase disks, blow fuses, etc. I learned
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the hard way that cleanliness was next to Godliness, at least where the
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TRS-80 was concerned. Even with religious cleaning, sometimes the
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computer would get garbage for no reason. But, remove the cable, clean
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the connector, and start writing all over again usually fixed the
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problems.
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***** continued in the next installment ****
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*** THE CONNECTION RBBS FIRST ANNUAL TECHIE PICNIC ***
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The Connection RBBS will host a PICNIC and GENERAL GET-TOGETHER at the
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*** HAWKINS PARK PAVILION ON JULY 9th, 12 NOON TILL ?:?? ***
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8920 Roebuck Boulevard - Take the 4th Ave. S. Exit off I-59
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to commemorate our second year of service to the Birmingham community.
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Everyone is invited, and we encourage all to drop by and visit.
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__________________________________________________
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Get used to seeing the previous announcement posted each year. Bill
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Freeman, SysOp of The Connection, here in Birmingham decided to host a
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picnic for the telecommunications community. I spoke with him recently
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and he seemed quite pleased with the results of his efforts. The
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following is a report from him on the picnic.
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__________________________________________________
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Folks, we did magnificently.
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Let's see - about 20 people that I knew and several whom I didn't
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participated in the picnic. Special thanks to everyone, those I did and
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didn't know. All told about 30-35 people came by, some had a beer or a
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hot dog (or some other picnic favor) and we all had a helluva time.
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What happens if an ST225 disappears led into discussions about whether
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the Iran plane was a hoax or not. Genealogy and politics were discussed,
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Alan found the pump and Jonah ate a cookie. It was, by any standard,
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quite fun.
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Where should we have it next time? Same place and same time (except
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stopping at 3 or so next time) fine with everyone? If so, it's a date.
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Maggie mentioned something about a Techie New Year's Eve Party being
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right around the corner. Any takers? I know I'm always looking for an
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excuse to have a good time.
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Oh yeah, EVERYONE! No one on this board looks anything at all like your
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average computer nerd (unless I do and no one told me yet). If you
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didn't make it, you definitely missed it. For all those that did come,
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and who had a lesser security level than a subscriber, I gave those
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folks a subscription for a month (since, in the heat of the moment, we
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forgot to give any away at the picnic).
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And one thing is for DAMN sure, Michele Cahoon is by far the cutest
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SysOp I have EVER seen. I don't see at all how such a looker finds time
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for a computer. Even more surprising than that, Blake changed colors
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(ask Blake if you really want to know!).
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Between all the excitement new friends were made and existing
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friendships deepened. It was, literally, more fun than Six Flags (or
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Panama City!).
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One thing I'm puzzled over, Alan. What did the baby finally get named?
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---The following are songs that I have written. All have some sort of social
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or political theme. If that kinda thing bugs you, don't bother reading it.---
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"I'M THE CONTRA"
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Hello Nice to meet you, I'm the Contra you wanted to meet
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Let me put my AK-47 down so I can have a seat
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I've always wanted to see what a real American was like
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All the other ones I met told me to take a hike
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But I know you won't, you'll give me loads and loads of money
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Cause you think that Sandinistas will invade, kill you and your honey
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Well don't tell anyone this, bu I'm worse than that
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I've mutilated forty kittens and I've eaten a dozen rats
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I invaded a wedding the other day, and slaughtered twenty-three guests
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Raped the bride, shot the groom, and injured all the rest
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My particular specialty is raiding retirement homes
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I like to relieve them of their misery from their creaking bones
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It's OK, really, cause they're all communists now
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And it looks like Congress will renew that aid package any day now
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If that happens, WHEN that happens, we'll be rolling in the dough
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Spend it any way we want, cause Congress will never know
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It's true that some of it will go to weapons, but that's okay
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The rest will benefit the booming U.S. drug trade!
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Yes sir, I'm the Contra you see in all the papers
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And we may be a bunch of terrorists and rapers,
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But WE'RE the ones on the side of the RED-WHITE-and-BLUE
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You wouldn't rather have Commies in this hemisphere.... WOULD YOU?
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"S.D.I. (MY OH MY)"
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Ladies and gentlemen of the biased liberal press
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Today we bring you a great new plan
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It'll save the world and all of its culture
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At least the part that we want saved
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In the event of a Soviet nuclear strike
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Nearly a third of our missile bases might be saved!
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And possibly four percent of our cities too!
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Isn't that worth four hundred billion dollars?
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Yes, it's a PEACE shield, what a nifty idea
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Our leader got the idea after seeing a movie
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The Reds are supposedly building one too
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So this escalation of the arms race is really their fault
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Besides, theirs is a WAR shield! To counter our peace shield
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Lasers and masers! High-tech space weaponry!
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It'll work, just you ask any of the scientists
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Only the ones who are getting paid for it though
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Because the rest have been brainwashed by liberal lobbies
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What a great thing to have, war in outer space
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Better up there than down here, right?
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Unless you plan on living there one day that is
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And there you have it, our peace shield plan
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Will be become the wave of the future you know
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At least while there is one
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"STYROFOAM CITY"
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Hey you stupid quacks You wacky crazy sillies
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Can't you scientists see that we're trying to conduct business?
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Take your outlandish theories and stuff them in a drawer
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Cause we've decided that we're not going to believe you anymore
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We'll keep right on making all the styrofoam we can
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We've had about as much from you as we can possibly stand
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You say that clorofluorocarbons dissolve the ozone layer
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Well we know something better: that the public doesn't care
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Hey you funny pessimists, you freaky cryers of doom
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Go back to finding ways of getting us on the moon
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The effects you describe won't be noticed for 10 years or so
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If you really want to be useful you can help us make more dough
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By shutting the hell up about ultra-violet radiation
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We'll be free to sell to fast-food joints across the nation
|
||
That's the problem with you eggheads, always thinking about where you're going
|
||
And never about RIGHT NOW, and what you should be doing
|
||
The future holds no fright for us, we KNOW that we'll be rich
|
||
Because you're plan of warning has just one hitch!
|
||
In olden times, bearers of bad tidings met with early death
|
||
So as far as the public is concerned, you might as well save your breath!
|
||
...please?
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
"BUSH - WHAT A GUY!"
|
||
|
||
Bush Bush what a guy
|
||
Rah rah raise him high
|
||
He'll continue Reagan's dream
|
||
Send the commies down the stream
|
||
|
||
Bush Bush what a man
|
||
Just one look, Dan Rather ran
|
||
His wife called Ferraro a bitch!
|
||
Guess she showed THAT liberal witch!
|
||
|
||
Bush Bush You can tell
|
||
He'll probably pardon Ollie as well!
|
||
Send him on more freedom missions
|
||
Really, who needs "original positions"?
|
||
|
||
Bush Bush Truly different
|
||
He supports South Africa's government!
|
||
So what he's down in the polls today
|
||
He said it himself, he works better that way!
|
||
|
||
Bush Bush I can't wait
|
||
For him to become our head of state
|
||
Head Wright and Kennedy off at the pass
|
||
Ready to kick some congressional ass
|
||
|
||
Bush Bush He's got the Big Mo!
|
||
Ask him again, he'll tell you so!
|
||
Wow what a nation we'll be then
|
||
I can't wait to have Reagan AGAIN!!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Those are all for now, I'm working on some more, so maybe you'll see another
|
||
file like this soon! Hope you liked them!
|
||
|
||
-----**> TYROS <**-----
|
||
|
||
"I'm The Contra", "SDI (My Oh My)", "Styrofoam City", and "Bush-What A Guy"
|
||
are all Copyright C. 1988 Tyrosyndikate
|
||
All rights reserved
|
||
|
||
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Excerpt from Agnostics Conference on Channel 8250
|
||
|
||
Date: 07-07-88 (18:35) Number: 1190
|
||
To: OSMAN GUNER Refer#: 1077
|
||
From: SOHAIL RABBANI Read: YES
|
||
Subj: PURPOSE OF LIFE Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
|
||
|
||
Osman,
|
||
You have posed THE QUESTION that has perplexed human minds
|
||
since the dawn of consciousness. "What is the purpose of our life?"
|
||
In other words, who are we? where did we come from? and where are we
|
||
going?
|
||
|
||
When I reached adolescence after a seemingly endless childhood, I
|
||
began to learn and explore with a confidence which was previously not
|
||
in my experience. By age 17 I had almost achieved the state of
|
||
absolute knowledge and wisdom. I was also almost indestructible.
|
||
Oozing with vitality and radiating confidence I went about my daily
|
||
life leaving behind an infinite litany of blunders. But I did not
|
||
know that anything I did was wrong. I was at a stage of : HE WHO
|
||
KNOWS NOT, AND KNOWS NOT THAT HE KNOWS NOT.
|
||
|
||
By 22 I had begun to realize that I might not be at the top of the
|
||
world, all knowing and all powerful as I previously imagined. By 25 I
|
||
was no longer convinced of my infallibility. By 30 I was an ignorant,
|
||
fragile and insignificant mortal. One out of billions of my kind. At
|
||
33 I was ever more humble and continue to be more so as each day
|
||
passes. I've reached the stage of: HE WHO KNOWS NOT AND KNOWS THAT HE
|
||
KNOWS NOT.
|
||
|
||
As humans continue to learn more, we increasingly realize that, we
|
||
know less about the universe and ourselves than we previously
|
||
imagined. Perhaps we are approaching adulthood as a species.
|
||
|
||
At the dawn of human consciousness there were only questions and no
|
||
answers to be found, because no one had encountered those questions
|
||
before. The desire to know is so strong that when answers are not
|
||
available, they are quickly manufactured. There is a need and that
|
||
need has to be filled. Religions spread through all civilizations
|
||
like brush fire. Religions promise to give the answers and thus
|
||
palliate the pain brought by the realization of one's ignorance. With
|
||
that balm humanity was able to grow up in complacency until such time
|
||
that it could begin to search for its own answers.
|
||
|
||
As the fables of ones childhood loose their magical hold over the
|
||
imagination upon entering adolescence and a more cause-and-effect
|
||
kinda logic emerges in ones thought patterns, one tends to shatter
|
||
all the icons that were handed down because one regards them as
|
||
superfluous. Then upon entering adulthood one realizes the allegoric
|
||
beauty and simplistic wisdom of the fables of childhood and gives them
|
||
new meaning and reverence.
|
||
|
||
Date: 07-07-88 (18:41) Number: 1191
|
||
To: OSMAN GUNER Refer#: 1077
|
||
From: SOHAIL RABBANI Read: YES
|
||
Subj: PURPOSE OF LIFE Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
|
||
|
||
A friend once said to me: "When I was a child, I
|
||
wholeheartedly believed in Santa Claus. I was grew up and
|
||
learnt that there was no Santa Claus. I was heartbroken and
|
||
felt cheated but I got over it and became distrustful of all
|
||
things magical. Then one day after I became a father and I
|
||
realized that *I WAS SANTA CLAUS*, now I believe in magic
|
||
once again because I see it in the eyes of my children."
|
||
|
||
We have come almost a full circle. But it is not really a closed
|
||
circle. It is a like a spiral that goes upward. As we make a full
|
||
round and come to the starting point we are actually at a higher plain
|
||
than we were at the original beginning. We have discarded the fables
|
||
of our child hood, but we have also learnt that our knowledge has
|
||
severe limitations.
|
||
|
||
The arrogant attitude of the 19th century adolescent scientific mind-
|
||
set is gradually giving way to more humility and a mature outlook of
|
||
the universe.
|
||
|
||
Coming back to your question of the purpose of life, as I see it, if
|
||
there is one, we don't know it.
|
||
|
||
The monotheistic religions will tell you that the purpose is to obey
|
||
the will of the creator and prepare for the after life. My
|
||
scientific minded friends and some ancient "pagan religions", (through
|
||
phallic worship and the fertile mother's icon worship -- as seen in
|
||
Mohenjo Daro excavations) will, instead, say that the purpose of life
|
||
is to proliferate and reproduce. Although I like the idea of engaging
|
||
in "reproductive activities" (without necessarily reproducing each
|
||
time) I must take exception to that as being the PURPOSE of life.
|
||
|
||
Reproduction is indeed the fundamental DRIVE of life. Indeed even a
|
||
part of the DEFINITION -- or meaning if you want to call it that -- of
|
||
life, but not its PURPOSE.
|
||
|
||
The word purpose implies a Grand Design and a Designer who conceived
|
||
it. If there is such an Architect, we don't know for sure. Of
|
||
necessity, therefore, we do not know of plans of the elusive Architect
|
||
either. Thus my answer, Osman, is a most frustrating one: WE DO NOT
|
||
KNOW. We do not know that there IS a purpose, and IF there is one we
|
||
do not know WHAT it is.
|
||
|
||
Let us not fall in the trap of our desire to KNOW and invent answers
|
||
where they are not forthcoming.
|
||
...S.R.
|
||
|
||
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
QuickBASIC Patches
|
||
by Tim Straughn
|
||
|
||
While trying to write a door with the newly acquired QuickBASIC version
|
||
4.0, again, MicroSoft's bad habit of dropping DTR on exiting the program
|
||
was a problem for the user's of QuickBASIC. I have only dabbled with
|
||
previous versions of QB, and have never had occasion to confront the
|
||
communications aspects. If writing a complete communications package
|
||
for host systems or other communications as a stand-alone program, this
|
||
is not really a problem. However, if writing a door to be used with
|
||
PCBoard Bulletin Board software as a shell, then a very real problem is
|
||
realized if the program drops DTR on exiting the program. So, while
|
||
writing my little door, I got the bulk of the program completed, and
|
||
then started looking into the interface with the com ports. Just
|
||
happens, I had the routines for doors as written by Clint LaBarthe, and
|
||
decided to use it for the ground work to at least get some ideas on what
|
||
to try. In the Archive, there was an additional text file by Jeff
|
||
Porter concerning the fixes for QB1, QB2, QB3, and other Compilers. I
|
||
set out to resolve the problem with QB4.
|
||
|
||
Needless to say, the addresses of the patches for QB1, et al, were
|
||
useless to me for working on the BCOM40.LIB and QB.EXE files to resolve
|
||
the problem. However, in the document prepared by Jeff Porter, the
|
||
specific byte pattern which is the culprit is given. The pattern in the
|
||
doc was given as:
|
||
|
||
83 C2 04 32 C0
|
||
|
||
First, I tried his way of doing things, by loading the library with
|
||
Debug, and searching for this pattern. Hmph. The newer library is so
|
||
large that Debug will not load all of it. What next? Well, thanks to
|
||
Norton utilities, and plus the fact that I am not an avid fan of Debug,
|
||
I was still able to peruse the patch, but not until I did some work with
|
||
Debug first. In his document, Jeff gives the assembler code changes to
|
||
correct the problem, but not the byte pattern. The above byte pattern
|
||
unassembles as:
|
||
|
||
add dx,+04
|
||
xor al,al
|
||
|
||
To correct the problem, Jeff said to change the xor al,al to a mov al, 1
|
||
instruction in both occurrences in the library. This is well and good if
|
||
you can find it with debug and get the specific address at which the
|
||
byte pattern occurs. When I issued the search instruction in Debug,
|
||
however, it came up blank, and just kinda gave me a stupid stare. So,
|
||
being a little familiar with Norton's utilities, I decided to use them
|
||
to search for the 5 byte pattern and see what I could come up with.
|
||
BINGO! Just as Jeff had said, the occurrence of the patter was in two
|
||
places. Now, what do I do to change it? I needed to change the last two
|
||
bytes in the string to be the mov al,1 assembler instruction. Not being
|
||
an assembler programmer at all, I knew nothing of the byte pattern to
|
||
provide. Aha! Let's go back to Debug!
|
||
|
||
I loaded Debug and used the e function to reproduce the byte pattern
|
||
listed above to verify the meaning in Assembler. Sure enough, it meant
|
||
exactly what Jeff said it did. Next, I used the A command to enter the
|
||
instruction mov al,1, and came up with the byte pattern B0 01. So, now
|
||
for the down and dirty.
|
||
|
||
I reloaded Norton's and chose the file and used the search option again
|
||
to find the 83 C2 04 32 C0 pattern again. Once found, I changed the 32
|
||
C0 bytes to B0 01. I did this for both occurrences of the pattern, and
|
||
then wrote the edited version to a new file (for obvious back-up
|
||
reasons). I then compiled a sample dumb terminal program with the
|
||
modified library to see what the bugger was gonna do. Voila! It worked,
|
||
and didn't drop DTR when I exited the program. So, I reloaded the
|
||
source code with the editor/debugger, and executed it again to see what
|
||
happens then. Of course, DTR dropped out as soon as I exited the
|
||
program. RATS! I primarily wanted the ability to run source programs
|
||
before compiling so that I wouldn't have to drop out of QB4 every time I
|
||
wanted to test a revision in a program, let alone having to compile
|
||
every time for each change. Back to the old drawing board. I loaded
|
||
Norton's again, and then pulled up the QB.EXE file. Another search, and
|
||
sure enough, there was that mysterious pattern again. Again, I changed
|
||
the 32 C0 to a B0 01 and saved it. I then loaded the patched QB.EXE and
|
||
ran the terminal program again. Eureka! It worked! Through a little
|
||
perseverance, I found the patches, and fixed my copy of the program.
|
||
|
||
Now for the only part some of you will be interested in. Below are the
|
||
file offsets in the library and the executable compiler program at which
|
||
I found the MicroSoft DTR eater. The pattern occurred twice in both
|
||
files, exactly 2CA (hex) bytes apart, so apparently the same routine is
|
||
used in the library and the compiler to handle the com ports. Loading
|
||
the files with Norton's and searching the file for the above byte
|
||
pattern should reveal it in each one twice as shown below.
|
||
|
||
|
||
BCOM40.LIB
|
||
|
||
First location begins at 1293F (hex) offset from origin of file. Second
|
||
location begins at 12C09 (hex) offset from origin of file.
|
||
|
||
|
||
QB.EXE
|
||
|
||
First location begins at 29846 (hex) offset from origin of file. Second
|
||
location begins at 29B10 (hex) offset from origin of file.
|
||
|
||
|
||
I also searched the BRUN40.EXE and BRUN40.LIB for the occurrence of the
|
||
pattern, but came up nil. This is not much of a concern to me because
|
||
of the fact, on a general basis, I seldom write and compile a program
|
||
that requires a separate runtime module. Since I have also corrected
|
||
the compiler itself, I can now run and test programs which use the
|
||
serial ports without compiling, thus saving me a tremendous amount of
|
||
time.
|
||
|
||
I hope you find this information of value, and I provide it at no cost.
|
||
As a matter of fact, I consider it information that MicroSoft should
|
||
have used a long time ago to correct their actions with the com port
|
||
routines. Indeed, in this case, I believe that for those of us who like
|
||
to experiment and dabble with communications, this would make the QB4
|
||
package much more attractive than Borland's Turbo Basic.
|
||
|
||
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
PRO FILE by Chris Mohney
|
||
|
||
The Pro File is a short, half-serious biographical sketch given to various
|
||
computer telecommunications personalities around Birmingham. Victims are
|
||
selected randomly from a group of names put into the notorious Hat. Anyone
|
||
who thinks himself brave or witty enough may petition for admittance to the
|
||
Hat by leaving E-Mail to me (Chris Mohney, most boards around town) to that
|
||
effect. Anyone who wishes to suggest more questions or sneakily nominate
|
||
someone without their knowledge may take the same route ....
|
||
|
||
---------
|
||
|
||
Pro File on MARK MAISEL
|
||
|
||
---------
|
||
|
||
Age: 27
|
||
|
||
Birthplace: Birmingham, Alabama
|
||
|
||
Occupation: Mail Handler
|
||
|
||
My_hobbies_include: computing, writing, swimming, eating, and drinking
|
||
|
||
Years_telecomputing: 8
|
||
|
||
Sysop,_past/present/future of: more boards than I care to name or
|
||
remember
|
||
|
||
My_oddest_habit_is: exhibiting complete honesty to the point of
|
||
bluntness
|
||
|
||
My_greatest_unfulfilled_ambition_is: unparalleled wealth and good health
|
||
|
||
The_single_accomplishment_of_which_I_am_most_proud_is: maintaining my
|
||
modesty under all circumstances, ha ha!
|
||
|
||
My_favorite_performers_are: musician - Frank Zappa, can't think of any
|
||
others
|
||
|
||
The_last_good_movie_I_saw was: Baby Snakes
|
||
|
||
The_last_good_book_I_read_was: Extraordinary Origins Of Everyday Things
|
||
by Charles Panati
|
||
|
||
If_they_were_making_a_movie_of_my_life,_I'd_like_to_see_my_part_played_by:
|
||
I can't say as I can't in my wildest imagining see anyone taking the
|
||
trouble to chronicle my life in film
|
||
|
||
My_pet_peeves_are: short sightedness, narrow and closed mindedness,
|
||
people who deliberately expose their ignorance and try to pass it off as
|
||
intellect
|
||
|
||
When_nobody's_looking,_I_like_to: do the same things I do when watched
|
||
with the exception of bathing which I enjoy as a peaceful time by myself
|
||
|
||
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Quotes and other nonsense
|
||
|
||
These are all quotes and other assorted sayings that have either amused
|
||
or intrigued me in the past few years to the point that I took the
|
||
trouble to writes them down. I hope some of them amuse/intrigue you as
|
||
much as they did me.
|
||
Saint George
|
||
|
||
********************************************************************
|
||
|
||
|
||
Death is Natures way of telling you to slow down.
|
||
|
||
Piers Anthony
|
||
|
||
My sense of God is my sense of wonder at the Universe.
|
||
|
||
Mark Twain
|
||
|
||
|
||
"...another angel approached me. This one was quietly but appropriately
|
||
dressed in cellophane,synthetic rubber, and stainless steel, But his
|
||
mask was the blind mask of Ares, snouted for gas warfare, He was neither
|
||
soldier, sailor, farmer, dictator, nor munitions manufacturer. Nor did
|
||
he have much conversation except to say, 'You will not be saved by
|
||
General Motors or the pre-fabricated house. You will not be saved by
|
||
dialectic materialism or the Lambeth Conference. You will not be saved
|
||
by Vitamin D or the expanding universe. In fact,,, you will not be
|
||
saved.'"
|
||
|
||
"Nightmare, With Angels" by Stephen Vincent Benet
|
||
|
||
|
||
The air grew suddenly bright, and in the mist of the white glow
|
||
appeared a flickering ribbon of darkness. It grew and took on substance,
|
||
until it was a hooded figure.
|
||
|
||
"Behold the three brothers of my prophecy;
|
||
|
||
The first will have a white blade by his side. First will he be to see
|
||
his realm, first to fall, first to rise.
|
||
|
||
The second shall have a black blade and be a man of fire. He will guard
|
||
the plain where the dead and the living shall clash in battle.
|
||
|
||
The third shall be the least and become the greatest, the youngest and
|
||
become the eldest. He has an iron angel at his back. His life will be
|
||
short but he will die at a great age."
|
||
|
||
The dark Prophet faced the three brothers.
|
||
|
||
"You face forces beyond imagining, an enemy more than mortal. Many will
|
||
suffer and die. I came not to present you with a kingdom,,, but to bring
|
||
you to your destinies."
|
||
|
||
"Ironbrand" John Morressy
|
||
|
||
|
||
The world is comic to those who think and tragic to those who feel.
|
||
|
||
Horace Walpole
|
||
|
||
*****************************************************************************
|
||
This section of material is quoted from the book "Time Enough For Love"
|
||
by the late author Robert A. Heinlein. May he rest in peace.
|
||
*****************************************************************************
|
||
|
||
I came, I saw, she conquered. (The original Latin seems to have been
|
||
garbled)
|
||
|
||
Never appeal to a man's "better nature", He may not have one. Invoking
|
||
his self-interest usually gives you more leverage.
|
||
|
||
In a mature society "civil servant" is semantically equal to "civil
|
||
master".
|
||
|
||
God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent--it says so right
|
||
here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of
|
||
these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for
|
||
you. no checks, please. Cash only and in small bills.
|
||
|
||
Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
|
||
|
||
Duty is a debt you owe to yourself to fulfill obligations you have
|
||
assumed voluntarily.
|
||
|
||
One man's magic is another man's engineering. Super-natural is a null
|
||
word.
|
||
|
||
The phrase "we (I) (you) simply must--"designates something that need
|
||
not be done.
|
||
|
||
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity and you'll seldom be
|
||
wrong.
|
||
|
||
Natural laws have no pity.
|
||
|
||
Don't try to have the last word. You might get it.
|
||
|
||
TANSTAAFL:
|
||
There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
|
||
i.e. Anything free is worth what you have to pay for it.
|
||
|
||
"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" Robert A. Heinlein
|
||
|
||
***************************************************************************
|
||
This section of material is what I am given to understand is 'Public
|
||
Domain' type material; I.E. I haven't read it, I have just heard it
|
||
from miscellaneous sources.
|
||
****************************************************************************
|
||
|
||
Life is a series of small comings and goings and for everything that a
|
||
man takes with him,,, there is something that he must leave behind.
|
||
|
||
Lack of forplanning on your part does not automatically constitute a
|
||
state of emergency on my part.
|
||
|
||
Q. Why is the Universe here ?
|
||
A. Where else would it be.
|
||
|
||
An Optimist thinks we live in the best of all possible worlds.
|
||
A Pessimist fears this is true.
|
||
|
||
Its hard to make things idiot-proof because idiots are so damned
|
||
ingenious.
|
||
|
||
An observed phenomena requires no explanation.
|
||
|
||
A rolling stone gathers momentum.
|
||
|
||
Friends may come and friends may go but enemies accumulate.
|
||
|
||
Ancient Chinese curse: May all your wishes be granted.
|
||
|
||
Ancient Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.
|
||
|
||
The average woman would rather have beauty than brains because the
|
||
average man can see better than he thinks.
|
||
|
||
Gumpersuns Law: The probability of anything happening is inversely
|
||
proportional to its desirability.
|
||
|
||
SIX PHASES OF A PROJECT:
|
||
|
||
1) Enthusiasm
|
||
2) Disillusionment
|
||
3) Panic
|
||
4) Search for the guilty party
|
||
5) Punishment of the innocent
|
||
6) Praise & honor for the non-participants
|
||
|
||
|
||
To err is human, to compute divine.
|
||
Trust your computer but not its programmer.
|
||
|
||
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Women and Telecommunications
|
||
by Michele Cahoon
|
||
|
||
The best thing to do here since so many feathers have been ruffled is to
|
||
let the cat out of the bag. Bubba Flaval and friends were made up to add
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more controversy to the articles. Many of you have really gotten very
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upset over this and that is the reason for letting the cat out of the
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bag.
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We will continue with this section of BTN but now from a more serious
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point of view.
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There were actually a few people who did agree with Bubba and I'm still
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not sure whether they were serious or just taking the losers side.
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However, I would like to have some input from the women out there. You
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can contact me on many boards or on my own, Point of No RETURN. Men are
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also welcome to help with their views, questions or subjects. All
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responses are welcome.
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Thanks for all the fun!!!
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I Speakee Computereese
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When I was just a youg boy my Mama got me a computer. So I been
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learning it ever since. Here is a list of what I have learned.
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1) Modem: Please hand me some modem taters.
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2) CPU: Confound Pick-Up. What Daddy says when the truck won't start.
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3) DATA: Data do boy. What Mama says when I ain't acting right.
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4) PRINT: The only way I know how to write.
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5) DIM: Go and get dim chores done.
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6) COMMON: What the people in town call us.
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7) EDIT: I ain't edit yet cause I don't like spinach.
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8) END: What my Daddy kicks of mine when I get home late.
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9) FIELD: Where the cows go at daylight.
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10) KEY: What I open the door with.
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11) PALETTE: Where my cousins sleep when they come to my house.
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12) PCOPY: When you go to the bathroom behind the barn and your little
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brother does to.
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13) PRESET: When you sit down in church before the preacher does.
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14) PSET: What women do.
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15) READ: What Daddy can't do.
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16) RESET: What you do after you have PRESET and got back up.
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17) SCREEN: That wire stuff on front door.
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18) SHELL: The thing on the back of a turtle.
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19) TROFF: Where the pigs eat.
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20) WRITE: Another thing my Daddy can't do.
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As soon as I can get a chance I will try to add to this list 'cause I
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know there are people out there like I use to be and are just getting
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started in this computin' stuff and I want to do all I can to help them.
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So see ya'll later.
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BUD
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Whoops You're Caught!!
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By: Gina Gossip
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The following caught in the act are mainly BTN writers this issue.
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Beware though, no one is safe from Gina Gossip. Always be watching over
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your shoulder......
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A certain male made it known publicly that he couldn't keep
|
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his hands out of another males' spandex shorts....
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One of our favorite sysops was found face down, nose in the carpet,
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chair on head after a serious meeting...
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Writer for BTN not present at meeting because of fear.... "Fat,Bald, and
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||
Ugly"........................
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There is a sysop who couldn't handle a beating from one of our female
|
||
writers.
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||
|
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A non-member of BTN passed out and woke up to find he had been made into
|
||
a human peanut butter and jelly sandwich.......
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||
|
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There is a sysop who is shy when off the boards and has learned to say
|
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"Ya'll".......
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||
|
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One of our writers tried to get everyone into a little dirty dancing....
|
||
|
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A writer's wife didn't realize she had been abused by a peanut while
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crashed until the following morning.............
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Well these are little tidbits to help you learn what all those crazy BTN
|
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writers are doing instead of writing and creating issues for us....
|
||
|
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Until next time......
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watch your every move.....
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Gina Gossip
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From The Kitchen
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Well hello again:
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||
As I promised I will introduce some of you to different aspects of the
|
||
kitchen that maybe you do not yet know about.
|
||
|
||
I would like to explain that I learned to cook at a young age. My
|
||
mother, who worked, always came home and cooked dinner. As I got older
|
||
and did not think it that important to be home in time for dinner my
|
||
mother informed me that if I wanted to eat I could be home on time or
|
||
fix my own. This was when I was a high school mental reject and so I
|
||
could eat things like twinkies and cold sausage that was left from
|
||
breakfast. My first year in college I ate rice and hotdogs. You take one
|
||
cup of rice, two cups of water and 2 or 3 hotdogs sliced. Put all of
|
||
this in a pan and boil until rice is cooked. This tastes like holy sh..
|
||
but it will sustain life and leave some money in your pocket at the end
|
||
of the week. Later I got married and put my wife through school. Now out
|
||
of the sixties and early seventies I felt no alarm when I started to
|
||
cook dinner when I beat her home in the afternoons. You know what They
|
||
say. Practice makes perfect. Anyway, I got pretty good at what I do and
|
||
really got to where I enjoyed it. I have attended some cooking schools
|
||
and classes so it not like I'm BSing you here. These recipes have been
|
||
tested and will work.
|
||
|
||
So what do you say? Let's get started.
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||
|
||
Spices You should always keep on hand: Cinnamon; Coriander; White pepper
|
||
(ground and whole corns); Black pepper (ground and whole corns); Cayenne
|
||
pepper; garlic (powdered, minced and fresh) never use garlic salt; sea
|
||
salt; mace; thyme; basil; bay leaves; tarragon; Hungarian paprika; dry
|
||
mustard; file' (this is for soups and gumbos); oregano; sage; cloves and
|
||
ginger. Whenever possible you should use fresh herbs and spices. These
|
||
can be found at different locations around town but for the widest
|
||
selection that I know of you should try out the Fresh Market located in
|
||
English Village. This place is great just to wander through and look
|
||
around.
|
||
|
||
Oils and Vinegars: You should have the following oils on hand: peanut;
|
||
olive (you pay more but you should always use first press extra virgin);
|
||
grape oil; and a vegetable oil. It is also nice to have around some
|
||
lard. This is the consistency of Crisco but is rendered from pork. It is
|
||
terrible for you but adds so much flavor to some of our southern dishes
|
||
that it is worth the risk. You cannot in my opinion make cornbread
|
||
without lard. You should have the following vinegars on hand: white
|
||
distilled ; red wine; tarragon; and pepper. The latter can be made by
|
||
adding 1/3 a cup of tarragon or 1/4 cup of whole pepper corns to a 16
|
||
ounce bottle of white distilled and letting it sit for a week or so
|
||
before using.
|
||
|
||
Pots and Pans: ALL pots should be made of copper. The copper allows even
|
||
heating. Your pans , saute and fry, should be a mixture of cast iron and
|
||
copper. The saute pans should be copper and the rest should be cast
|
||
iron. If at all possible do not use aluminum because it will develop hot
|
||
spots. In the pots you should have at least 2 sauce pots which are quite
|
||
small, some where in the area of 2 or 3 cup size. Also include 1, 2, and
|
||
three quart saucepans. As you cook you will learn which size you need
|
||
the most of. This has a lot to do with how many you are cooking for. You
|
||
will also need at least 2 soup pots. One of these should be porcelain
|
||
covered cast iron. You will also need at least one double boiler. In the
|
||
pans you will need a number 8, 10, 12 and 16 cast iron skillets. You
|
||
should have covers for all of these. you should have an 8 inch and a 12
|
||
inch copper saute pan. You should also have a 12 or 14 inch copper fry
|
||
pan with cover. It is nice to also have a copper fish pan of medium
|
||
size. The only aluminum pan I would allow is a large and I mean large
|
||
roasting pan. These work nice in the oven because they are surrounded by
|
||
the heat rather than having the heat applied in one area. You will also
|
||
need a loaf pan. If you ever bake bread once for yourself you will never
|
||
buy it again if it is to be used for something other than peanut butter
|
||
and jelly sandwiches.
|
||
|
||
Utensils: There are literally thousands of gadgets for your kitchens.
|
||
These will be acquired with time and you will know when you need to
|
||
purchase something rather than improvising with something you already
|
||
have. I would suggest the following. Colander, grater, sieve, zester,
|
||
peeler, an assortment of wooden spoons, a pasta hook, a paring knife, a
|
||
chefs knife, meat clever (this is a must), and an assortment of butcher
|
||
knives.
|
||
|
||
This is just a start and next time I will try to add some insight into
|
||
the need for these things as well as a recipe or two.
|
||
|
||
Remember; Enjoy and Good Eating,
|
||
Chez Stephan
|
||
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|
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Known BBS Numbers For The Birmingham Area
|
||
|
||
NAME NUMBER BAUD
|
||
|
||
68FREE 933-7518 300, 1200
|
||
America Online Node 1 324-0193 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
America Online Node 2 324-0194 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
America Online Node 3 324-0195 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
American BBS 674-1851 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Amiga Alliance 631-2846 300, 1200
|
||
Asylum BBS 988-0477 300, 1200
|
||
Birmingham BBS Node 1 251-2344 300, 1200
|
||
Birmingham BBS Node 2 251-8033 300, 1200
|
||
Birmingham Business BBS 856-0679 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Bus System BBS 595-1627 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Channel 8250 785-7417 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Commodore Club-South 853-8718 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Fear & Loathing 985-4856 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Elite Empire 967-8479 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Fortress BBS 664-9040 300, 1200
|
||
LZ Birmingham 870-7770 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Magnolia BBS 854-6407 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Misty Mountain 979-8409 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Misty Mountain II 969-2052 300, 1200
|
||
Nouveaux BBS 871-5551 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Pinson Valley Node 1 854-9661 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Pinson Valley Node 2 854-9662 300, 1200, 2400, 9600
|
||
Point of No RETURN 664-9609 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
RiverSide 663-6015 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Scott's Penny Arcade 226-1841 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Southern Regiment 647-9176 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Sperry BBS 853-6144 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
ST BBS 836-9311 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
The Connection Node 1 854-9074 1200, 2400
|
||
The Connection Node 2 854-2308 1200, 2400
|
||
Willie's DYM Node 1 979-1629 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Willie's DYM Node 2 979-7739 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Willie's RBBS 979-7743 300, 1200, 2400
|
||
Ziggy Unaxess 991-5696 300, 1200
|
||
|
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