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THE FOLLLOWING MATERIAL WAS DOWNLOADED FROM THE NJIT EIES CONFERENCES C866 -
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Microcomputer Communications and C685 - The Future of Telecommunications I
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think that you may find this disturbing as I and most of my fellow Sysops do.
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Please feel free to download it and pass it around. Subject: BBS Confiscation
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I think the following message retrieved from Compuserve deserves widespread
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circulation; no further explanation needed:On May 16 I was served with a
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search warrant and my system seized because of a message that allegedly had
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been left, unknown to me, on one of the public boards. This was done by the
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L.A.P.D. under direction of a complaint by Pacific telephone. All Sysop's
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should be warned that under present law (or at least the present
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interpetation) they are now responsible for ALL information that is left or
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exchanged on their system and that ANY illegal or even questionable
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activities, messages or even public outpourings are their direct legal
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responsibility and that they will be held directly accountable regardless of
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whether or not they knew of it, used it, and regardless of any other
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circumstances! Yes, it is unjust. Yes, it is legally questionable. But it,
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for the moment, seems to be enforcable and is being "actively pursued" as a
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felony. I would appreciate it if this message was spread to as many systems
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as possible so that the word may be spread to the greatest number of Sysops.
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1984 may, indeed, be here... Jack, I'm interested in more details of
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this one. Do you have any? It sounds like a crack=down on pirate boards more
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than anything else. Id be interested to know whether the alleged message is
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supposed to have information in it allowing others to break into someone's
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computer system, like phone numbers and passwords. Or if not that, what the
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nature of the complaint was. I agree that all sysops should be aware of what
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their interpreted liabilities are, nontheless. And that bulletin boards,
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including those not in the grey market, will be monitored closely by
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industry groups in a counterattack; and that legislation pending in
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several states will provide pretty scary penalties for what used to be
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considered a lark. I'm not sure about the civil liberties issues here; but
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as I've said before, when the game goes hardball everyone loses out...
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I dunno where the BBS is (was), but Mission Hills is in area code 818.
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Scary story, huh? But I'm not too surprised... I stumbled acrossa long list of credit card numbers on a BBS about a month ago. I meant to
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turn it over to the telco but never got around to it, now I am glad I
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didn't. The losses are starting to get really big, and the pirate BBSs
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spread information faster than the telcos can keep up. It's interesting
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that a pirate publication called TAP has been published on paper for years,
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giving away tricks to beat Ma Bell and her children out of bucks with credit
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card checksum algorithms (which used to be trivial), coin phone control tone
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sequences, etc. Now that similar information is published electronically,
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free speech (free bauds?) no longer applies, it would seem. This promises to
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become a very interesting legal situation. The very worst scenario I can
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think of unreels from the complainant, the phone company. The report sounds
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like the company is monitoring all the BBS's in L.A. County (or is it Orange
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County?) Conceivably, just conceivably, as the ultimate carrier the company
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exercised what someone felt was a "public responsibility" not to carry
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certain text. The company doesn't want to dirty its lines with ethnic
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slurs (from racial epithets to Polish jokes), possible obscenity, or libel.
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By analogy, an independent print shop can be sued for libel in most states
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for a book that it sends through its presses, though I've never heard of
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that happening. Usually both author and publisher are targets in a libel
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action. That is, the phone company might be liable by the letter of the law,
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but only the author and sysop would be "conventional" defendants. Since the
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telephone company is not poor, however, it probably considers itself fair
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game every time a new lawyer graduates from USC. And that's not all. The
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phone company doesn't want to be a party to distributing a copyrighted
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program over its lines in hex. Doesn't want to help distribute information
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on how to break a copy-protect scheme. Principally, it doesn't want to aid
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hackers in combining their prowess to raid mainframes, which is "theft of
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services" or worse. (That happened.) Doesn't even want to be the vehicle by
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which dozens of teenagers pile up a $150,000 long-distance tab on an
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unwitting customer's monthly bill, which the company or AT&T will have to
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eat. (That happened.) It doesn't want to be a party to a cocaine deal or a
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prostitution ring. The least fanciful scenario is either that the FBI is
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putting pressure on local phone companies to police the BBS's against
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hackers raiding mainframes, or that AT&T is demanding scourge work against
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hackers raiding the long-distance system (presumably to get free connect
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time while raiding mainframes). And so the motives are laudable, the
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officials all honorable men. But monitoring the BBS's automatically delids
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a can of worms. If in the course of searching the boards a phone company
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finds a popular copyrighted program in hex, which it wasn't looking for,
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it becomes a witting carrier of copyright infringement unless it takes
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action to terminate the infringement. What if it finds a message explaining
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how to break a copy-protection scheme? What if...? Hire more lawyers to
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decide what the BBS's can get away with, whether the message "RR IS A
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PAINTED WHORE" is non-libelous under the Sullivan decision, whether
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the content of that board endangers the morals of the minors who flock
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to it. FREEZE! The strategy (or experiment) in southern California is to
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beat on the heads of the sysops to do their own policing, which is a
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"fair-minded" approach. It will shut down a lot of boards. Self-policing
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will take off some of the heat, but phone-company monitoring of the BBS's
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is a goose-step inside the door and won't go away just because it gets
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results. The local companies that do it should be dragged before the public
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by their heels, and it wouldn't hurt if BBS users and their sympathizers
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waited until the disconnect warning before paying their bills. A lot of
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high-handed, reckless stuff that occurs on the BBS's needs to be stopped,
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but the lid has to be kept on the can of worms that has been hign-mindedly,
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recklessly opened in southern California. A local news story some months ago
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told of a woman whose monthly phone bill weighed in at $150,000, up from $45.
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She got it straightened out. At dinner tonight my guest Mike, who works for
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that phone company, filled in some details. Seems the victim's heavy usage
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started after using her ten-digit account number and four-digit personal
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number at an airport. LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS, as they said in World War II.
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At this airport one of that infamous band of conspirators known as "hackers"
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was at prey. Anyway, her numbers then popped up on certain BBS's and the
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ensuing flood of calls from California and New York, some concurrent,
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weren't flagged by the program that checks credit calls because
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different family members are allowed to use the same numbers and therefore
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so are "hackers." Apparently the billing office should have checked with some
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other office on a $150,000 monthly toll, but didn't because (as I understand
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it) of some provision for accelerated usage in the computer program. The
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woman had made a spate of calls the previous month that disrupted her $45
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norm, allowing the whopper to get into the mail. Don't know whether this
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was a malicious trick on the woman or on the phone company. Reminds me of
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the time in Ghana when the electric company cut my lights off on the
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assumption that I couldn't pay the bill they hadn't yet sent me (it was my
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first, covering four months use at a rate equal to my salary.) The "hacker"
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victim got away with a funny dinner-party anecdote. I had to negotiate for
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three weeks to get my lights turned on again and my account switched from
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business to domestic rates. I wound up having to pay half my four-month
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industrial billing, which was actually a flat rate. What's to stop the
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phone hackers from running up big MCI bills, (under an account under an
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assumed name, perhaps...), then just not paying the bills and switching to
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SBS or CCSI? Eventually you might exhaust all the various long-distance
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services, but it would take quite a while. I bet they all start to have
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a large problem with non-bill-payers, particularly because they don't have
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the threat of cutting off your phone service. Sysop Charlie Strom
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76703,602 To: All The following message was retrieved from another system:
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On Saturday, June 2, there was a meeting of Los Angeles area sysops to find
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out the truth behind the confiscation of the Mog-Ur BBS. The Sysop of the
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Mog-Ur BBS was there along with his lawyer. Here is a report on what I
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learned at the meeting: The messages (there were two of them) containing
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the AT&T calling card numbers were left on his board using an option to
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leave an anonymous message. The Sysop can tell who leaves such messages,
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but the general public can't. Another feature of his BBS software is that
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you can specify the length of time (in days) that a message should stay up.
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The messages in question were left with a very small number of days and Tom
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(the sysop) never got to see them before the system automatically killed them.
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During the time the messages were on, a Pacific Bell agent called in and saw
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them. PacBell asked the police to get a search warrant for Tom's computer.
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This is standard procedure when PacTel finds a BBS handing out phone phreak
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information. No effort was made to ask Tom to delete the messages or find out
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who left them. Either somehow Tom found out that PacBell was going to show up
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or they allowed him t3,602 To: All Tom has retained a lawyer who thinks the
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whole thing will be thrown out and is going to try to make PacBell look bad.
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If it ever goes to court he says all he has to do is get a jury of normal
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people (i.e. no PacBell employees) and present it as a case of John Doe vs.
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the phone company. Nobody likes the phone company. The lawyer has documented
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cases where this kind of information was left for weeks on UCLA computers and
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on CompuServe (I assume in BULLET), and the police did nothing (its easy to
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pick on a small computer sysop, but trying to confiscate UCLA or CompuServe
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is harder). InfoWorld reporter Peggy Watt was on the scene and a story will
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run on the front page of the next issue about it. If there is any difference
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between my story and the one in InfoWorld, believe InfoWorld. I have tried to
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get this correct, but Peggy talked with Tom and his lawyer a lot longer than
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I did, and she took written notes (this is from memory). PacBell has refused
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to talk to Peggy, and the LAPD person who conducted the raid is on vacation.
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When the superior of the detective was asked about it, the reply was like
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"You mean we confiscated $10,000 worth of computers? I didn't know that!".
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It was reported earlier that Tom had a section on his BBS called "Underground"
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where these kinds of messages were posted before. I have found out it was his
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policy to delete any such messages when he saw them. The idea behind the
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section was not to rip off the phone company, but to discuss "things you
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wouldn't want just anybody to read" (Tom's system didn't require validation
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to use, except for the underground section which you had to ask for access
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to). Another idea was to provide a place to leave unpopular opinions since it
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had the ability to leave anonymous messages. I hope this clears up what this
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section was meant for. Thats all for now. The lawyer is pressing for
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something to be decided during the next week. (Note from C.S. - see Infoworld
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of 6/18/84, page 11.) Would you take Safeway to court for having a phone
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number on their bulletin board in the store? I sort of suspect that Pacific
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Telesis (sounds like a California cult) will get the case thrown out of
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court, but NOT without a lot of heartburn for Tom! It may not be a matter
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of whether or not they win the case. These days it's an unfortunate fact of
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life that anyone with the money to pay a battery of lawyers can keep you in
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court long enough that it doesn't matter if you're in the right or not -
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either way you lose...
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