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02/03/92
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'Lamer Pirate Magazines, Etc...'
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By THE GRIM REAPER
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This was originally going to be an article for iNSANITY Magazine #4
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called 'Lamer Pirate Mags, Etc' to straighten out the complete bullshit
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and lies in Badnews #7, but seeing as there are so many rumours floating
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around, and the future of iNSANITY is undecided I decided to just put
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out this textfile to explain what is really going on, less a few lamers out
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there spread all kinds of bullshit and lies, as they seem to do so often.
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Pretty much everything in Badnews #7 was a complete lie, as most of
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you already know by now. There didn't have any backdoors to ViSiON-X, and
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there aren't and weren't any that allowed someone to get the user list. What
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happened on Showdown was the Sysop PW was given out to the wrong person,
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and they used it. So again, nothing but BS and hype on their end. While
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I think the FiRM overhyped themselves, they didn't deserve the ragging they
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got by BaD, and Bad having failed in their own attempt at a Pirate Group
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have no right to criticize ANYONE until they've accomplished the same.
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Perhaps a few of the other groups could have said something to them (and
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many talked about it) but they didn't deserve the 3rd Degree from a lamer
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mag.
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The main reason for this article was that while many found the
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BaD Mag to be so completely full of shit to the point it was hilarious, some
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got to thinking that down the line someone might actually believe some of
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the BS. They claimed to be the group that caused the downfall of THG, PE and
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others, which was a complete joke... They had absolutley nothing to do with
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any of that. USA had killed of THG, etc... What else was there to straighten
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up?
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02/03/92
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'Lamer Pirate Magazines, Etc...'
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By THE GRIM REAPER (Cont'd)
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'Did they shoot your Dog????'
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- Anonymous Lamer
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So what's up? Well, to make it short and blunt, The Not So Humble
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Babe and I were involved in a carding incident. She most likely was being
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watched by certain people since she had been using false corporations and
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fake Tax ID Numbers to order games, and for suppliers for USA. The Secret
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Service either stumbled across us that way, from one of the orders gone
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bad, or from the illegal cash and hardware coming in to Enterprize. The
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NSH Babe (Amy) had a cash flow from Dist Sites and other hot hardware from
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USA Sites totalling about $3500-5000 a month. She had sent one of her hot
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laptops she gets every month to Optical Illusion in Canada, and asked him to
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sell it for her. He wanted to be nice, and tried to sell it. A local from his
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416 area wanted to buy the laptop. He went to sell it, and was busted by a
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plainclothes police officer for possesion of stolen property over a $1000.
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I found some CC #'s, she had alot of experience with UPS and FedEx from
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ordering games, and she thought of a way to pick up the packages. We both
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placed orders (I placed about 2/3rds since she was picking up, and she placed
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about a 1/3rd). Most of the stuff wasn't for myself, and was meant for other
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people (Trying to be nice, Eh?). In any case, we shouldn't have done it.
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TNSH Babe wanted to order a ALOT of stuff, becuz over time she owed people
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in USA alot of hardware they had paid her for, and she had never sent to
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them. We ordered a bit too much, more than I thought we should have.
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'They had Bulletproof Vests and Grenades??'
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- Nother |<-Rad D00D!!
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So then what? Well they found out the packages were coming, and
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were waiting for TNSH Babe to pick them up. They went back to her place
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and she gave them permission to come in and search. (Dunno what happened in
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between then), she talked to them, and they wanted to have her give some of
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the stuff she got to me when we were supposed to meet for the first time at a
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Meijers parking lot. There were some weird things going on at the time, and
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an alarm was flashing in the back of my mind, but I decided to ignore it.
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Anyhow, she handed me a hard drive or something, then basically they moved in.
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I saw a car pulling up, and figured what was going on. One guy said, 'Secret
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Service' (Bout 6 people), and it kinda went downhill from there. But
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seriously, they weren't that bad and I cooperated with them.
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They wanted to go back to my house and look around, and wanted permission.
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They said they would have gotten a search warrant, and it was in my best
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interest to cooperate, so I let them come in. Basically there wasn't anything
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in the house, I always throw everything out when I am done with it. As
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far as the computer went, I didn't even have anything Unzipped on the Hard
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Drive that I hadn't paid for. They wanted to look further on the computer
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and in the end did take it, but gave me a receipt. I paid for my entire system,
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so don't listen to some of the lamer textfiles floating around. There wasn't
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anything on my system, so I might get lucky and they'll give it back. They
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also took 3 or 4 computers from Amy's place, but left Static with his. This
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was the first time either of us had done anything like this. There had been a
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few attempts in the past, but nothing that had ever been followed thru, or had
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worked. No no, I've never been busted for this before (more lies), or
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anything. I've never been arrested for anything before.
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02/03/92
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'Lamer Pirate Magazines, Etc...'
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By THE GRIM REAPER (Cont'd)
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'I formatted my Hard Drive 3 Times!!'
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- Local 313 Sysop
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I don't know if it was overreacting, but our dumb situation seemed
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to affect alot of other people. The locals over here went apeshit, and
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many of them formatted there drives and deleted files (20+), and took
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their boards down temporarily. Many of the major Pirate boards decided
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to power down for a while. Unfortunatley many of the truly good boards
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in the world have gone down, possibly forever. BBS-A-Holic has gone down,
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Enterprize is now PD Only, many INC boards, LSD2 possibly for related
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reasons, The VOID of course, and many others. Many big namers are
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considering quitting the pirate scene because they think it's not worth it,
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and they're right. Some of the boards may come back. BBS-A-Holic was
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one of my favorites. Many considered The VOID one of the Top 10 Boards
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in the world as far as Quality went, and I appreciate the users and the
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support, I worked hard to try to make it the best, and put my heart into
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it. As are many others, Black Spyrit might be retiring, so I don't know
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if another iNSANITY Issue will be coming out. It was truly a great Mag if
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you never saw it. The best.
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'I heard they were thrown in jail, and fined $72 Million Dollars!!'
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- Another neverending Lamer
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No matter what or who the issue, this never stops eh? I wouldn't
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believe any of the bullshit textfiles, mostly from jealous people and the
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few enemies you get when you end up getting towards the top. Especially
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the Anonymous (surprise) textfile taken off of OOFNet (Surprise again, huh?
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Heh) are as always complete BS.
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Try not to be a lamer. There are too many of 'em, and they do nothing for
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the Pirate world. If you are going to do anything, do SOMETHING. Organize
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a group of some type, Coordinate Couriers, do some VGA or ANSi work, or get
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in a group, but don't be a Lamer. Call LD, and establish a Rep, and see what
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you are missing. All Locals aren't Lamers, but 90% are.
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A Lamer - A person who calls only Local boards, does nothing but leech files,
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and doesn't contribute to groups in any ways.
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Neither BaD, any locals, or Socrates had anything to do with us getting
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into trouble in any way.
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'Don't try this at home kids.'
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- Grim '92
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All things considered, I wish it wouldn't have ended this way.
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I don't think any of this was good for anyone in the pirate or BBS world.
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USA is now pretty much a dead group. Many of the best boards have gone down,
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and others are considering calling it quits becuz it just isn't worth it.
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INC never was a for profit group, and had no illegitimate cash flow unlike
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USA.
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- Adieu's
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-=INC=- '92 - The Conferences sure were a blast, you guys really cracked me
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up at times and kept it from getting boring. I have alot of
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good memories. Sorry if I let you guys down. Call me sometime.
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Cool Hand - Dumb, eh?
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You were loyal, and a great organiser.
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Lestat - A good friend, and a killer accent. Call me.
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Bloody Butcher - Your Dad still carrying around with that axe?
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Optical - Hmmm, we shoulda known better...
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Drew - Hard to get ahold of, hey.
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<ACiD> Artists - You guys where always great Manufacturer, Tracer, The Eel,
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and Black SpyriT ofcourse. Ed, give me a call anytime.
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Socrates (A local 313 Lamer) - You are a true coward, and a true Lamer.
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How you live with yourself is beyond me.
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OOFNet - Dead pirate groups, Lamers, no ANSi, and Telegard boards... What
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more to say?
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Sought After - Give it up already. I heard you wrote one of those bullshit
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textfiles, eh?
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P.S. This article is meant for iNSANiTY Magazine #4. Please make sure it
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makes it in there. (Black SpyriT)
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