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I've seen a lot of posts recently telling the good, the bad, and the ugly about
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DM (as in Robitussin, yum yum...) I'm no expert at drugs, I will attest. I
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rarely drink, and have smoked MJ even more infrequently (like, oh, 5 times
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total in my life...) I have been around people who have done drugs. Usually I
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was the "designated straightedge." I enjoyed the job, but now have began to
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"fiddle" around a little bit (oh the joys of College life :) Anyhow, I have
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been messing around with DM recently, and thought I'd share my personal
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experiences with it:
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1st Time: Drank a 4oz bottle of Robitussin DM. Loved it, since my roomie is
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deathly afraid of the stuff. He used to do it, and now can't even get near a
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bottle of the stuff without heaving. Drank the whole 4ozs in front of him in
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about 2 minutes, and made sure to breathe the fumes on him :) Not a whole lot
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of effect, but I did not really expect much. Some dizziness, a little bit of
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audio hallucinations (music was a whole lot more interesting...) I was more
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talkative, but always felt like I was slurring my speech (even though,
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according to my friends, I was not.) Time seemed to move really slow. The
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high lasted about 4 hours, even though it felt longer. Felt tired, worn out
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afterwards and slept rather well...
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2nd Time: Drank another 4oz of Rob-DM. Licked my lips as my roomie gagged at
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the sight of me drinking it (unlike others, I do not mind the taste of
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Robitussin too awful much, although I do have to drink plenty to get the
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lingering taste out of my mouth...) Much the same effects as before, but even
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more pronounced. No real visual-hallucinations at all. Lasted a bit longer
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this time, maybe 5 hours. Loads of fun walking around. Next to impossible to
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urinate, though :)
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3rd Time: Decided to be cheap, and bought a bottle of generic Hy-Vee Brand
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"Tussin." Ingredient label was EXACTLY the same as Robitussin DM (I made sure
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to check.) Got back, drank it all in 3 mighty gulps. Taste was AWFUL! I
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could feel my guts beginning to churn. I sat back, waiting a bit for the
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effects to take hold (usually takes about 45 minutes when I drink a whole
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bottle at one time..) A friend came in and told me they were dragging someone
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up on the memorial arch at school (a big 50 foot monument to something), so I
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rushed out there. I helped drag him up by pulling a rope that was slung over
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the top, and had to do a lot of strenuous pulling. I got violently sick, and
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threw up in the snow by the arch. After about an hour and a half outside, I
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still felt no effect. Went back in and went to sleep. Absolutly no effects.
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Felt cheated.
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4th Time: Another 4oz Robitussin. Even more effects than before. Began to
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get into the "oh WOW!" type syndrome. Everything became INFINATELY more
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interesting. I'd tend to stare off into space without blinking for moments at
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a time. Began having minor hallucinations, too. Posters and things on the
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wall would seem to jump and change places just a little bit. Slight visuals
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too, like a flashing off-color light field in front of my eyes for moments at
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a time. Lasted even longer, about 6 hours, and time felt really, really
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distorted. I awoke the next morning full of energy, too.
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5th Time: BIG TIME. Decided to go all out, and bought the 8oz Family Size
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Robitussin DM. Drank it all within 10 minutes (to the absolute DISGUST of
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everyone in the room.) Kind of a mistake, but not really. It began like
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normal, dizziness, then audio-hallucinations, then slight visuals. But it
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continued on. I began to have more massive visuals. Big colored blobs flowing
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and oozing in front of my eyes. Staring at any one spot for awhile caused that
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spot to seem to fly away, almost like I was shrinking. My friends left me
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alone for awhile, and I sat in the room in the dark. More hallucinations,
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including one full-blown, "I do not exist, anymore"-type hallucination. I
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thought I was a flower. I could feel myself swaying the wind, I could see a
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big field of grass instead of my normal surroundings. This went away rather
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quickly, and has been the only real, full-out hallucination I have had yet.
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I was full of energy, too. I was hyper. I was bouncing off the walls in our
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hallway, running around, talkative. When I finally sat down, about 6 hours
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later, I was still buzzing. I began to get tired, and started sort of passing
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out. During that time, I began convulsing. I'd all of a sudden get sort of a
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seizure, and flail around in the chair I was sitting in. That lasted about 45
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minutes, until I fell fully asleep. Awoke nice and refreshed the next day.
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6th Time: I was kind of hesitant to do any more after the last experience, but
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I eventually downed another 4ozer (of Rob-DM). Not a whole lot, just a normal
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4oz trip. I might have been holding myself back because of the experience I
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had with the 8ozer.
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7th Time: Another 8oz Family Rob-DM. Great time. I had all the effects I had
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before on the 8oz, but no adverse side-effects. I was loaded with energy. The
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trip lasted at least 10 hours, and I was buzzing the whole time. Finally fell
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asleep, and woke up the next morning feeling good, but a little bit messed up
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still. This was probably the longest trip I have ever had on Robitussin yet.
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8th (and most recent) Time: Decided to make a change, and picked up the
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Maximum Strength Robitussin 4oz. Drank it all in the normal 3 big gulps. Wow.
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I wasn't filled with as much energy as before: I couldn't bounce around as much
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and stuff. But the buzz, and the visuals, and everything was just the same as
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drinking 8oz. I had some wild visual hallucinations. For awhile, it felt like
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I was walking around only in 2-dimensions. Everything had length and height,
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but no width. Wild... The next day I was violently ill, though. I think this
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had more to do, though, with the fact that I was coming down with a cold all
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weekend, and not the Robitussin.
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Will I do it again? Probably. I have heard a lot about the similarity between
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DM-trips and LSD & Shroom-trips. I would consider trying them(LSD, Shrooms),
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but they are near to impossible to come by in Ass Backwards, IA where I am
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attending College. So you can bet I might be making a few more trips to the
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local supermarket for that (ahem) bad cold I got. I don't really condone the
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stuff. It may sound great, but there are plenty of bad effects. If you have a
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weak stomach, or can't handle the smell of Robitussin, then for god sakes
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DON'T. You'll puke. Only reason I can handle the stuff is because I kind of
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like the taste (strange, I know, but I still complain to my roomie that it
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tastes better than the Millwaukee's Best Light beer he loves to drink...) If
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you are depressed, or have an adversion to drugs, then for christ sakes, DON'T!
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If you have to drive, or work, or anything strenuous, then for satan's sake,
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DON'T! I had to drive a few friends to the bar about 20 minutes after drinking
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a bottle, and I will NEVER do that again. I had my roomie (who had not been
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drinking, thank god) take over for me.
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There, got the normal, straightedge disclaimer out of me. Enjoy...
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-_________________________________________________________________________-
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[ Christopher Johnson - Buena Vista College, Storm Lake - Cooter Claypool ]
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|\o/The Fiery Darts - Boom Key Grip Editor - BEWARE: pOsSiBlE sArCaSm | |
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| | "I found a new friend, underneath my pillow." - Language is a Virus/o\|
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|The New Wave of the Post Modern Ultra High Tech Kool Rave Disco Bastards!|
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[ Reality is just another perception of the senses - JOHNSONCHRIS@BVC.EDU ]
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"When I step, a weed DIES..." - Pete, King of the Detectives (Big Black)
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The Place:
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Philadelphia, Pa. USA 3/13/93. Alone in my apartment.
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The Person:
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28 years old. 240 pounds. Nothing better to do.
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The Conditions:
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MAJOR east coast winter storm. 1 foot plus of snow.
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howling winds(75mph+). sleet. thunder and lightning!
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PA state of emergency. ALL area interstates and airports
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closed.
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The Dosage:
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Total of 14oz. 4oz Robo Max Cough and 2oz Generic DM at 3pm.
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8oz Robo DM over next 3-4 hours.
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The Synergists:
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Pot Only. NO Alcohol. NO Caffiene.
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Food before, during, and after ingestion.
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Heavily Stoned at start of ingestion.
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Effects:
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Starts real mellow. A body warming. Slightly drunk and dizzy. In a
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very good way. A "boozey" drunken feeling it is not, maybe like Seconal.
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A definite "in the body" thing. Started cutting corners close, bumping
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into walls. Destortions in my spatial perception. Sight slighly blurry,
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Impossible for me to read small print. Underlying calmness.
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Music is much more enjoyable. A kind of craving for louder and harder
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beats. Enjoying the textures of the tape hiss between tracks.
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Strange disjointed thought process. Underlying calmness.
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Full warping of subspace. Pin Head with expansize arms/legs. Incredible
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head size. Warping and folding of body. Incredible spatial distortions.
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Had to lie down on bed with no light. Wind was howling but i was calm.
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Continued spatial and mental distortions, but with a calmness telling
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me the trip was going to be okay. Never "totally" lost it like with LSD.
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Underlying calmness throughout entire trip which is unlike LSD for me.
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LSD tends to be a "speedy", tense kind of trip for me. Hard for me
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to ride an LSD trip because of the tenseness.
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Precautions:
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I got the stuff down real easy. A little iced tea chaser and i'm
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fine. YOU may find Robo SICKENING getting and keeping down.
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If you can get yourself in the mindset needed to guzzle and keep
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down several oz of hard liquor, you'll do fine with Robo.
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PLEASE DO NOT EXPECT TO DRIVE DURING THIS TYPE OF BUZZ.
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The Verdict:
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WOW. This involves some further research. Will do Robo Max Cough
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(seems to be the strongest/purest form i can get) with some friends
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next week. Will check my results without the initial POT buzz.
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--
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Scott D. Taylor scott@gooflesh.pha.pa.us
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Philadelphia
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...uunet!gooflesh!scott
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Excerpts from netnews.alt.drugs: 25-Mar-93 DM and alcohol by
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agaluhn@pomona.claremont
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> No no no no no. Bad dog. Don't do it.....
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[...]
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> Anyway, I have a warning for any who might be listening....DO NOT MIX DM AND
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> ALCOHOL!!!!!!!!!!! I'd been in a BIG argument with my girlfriend the last
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> couple of days, and while the two of us bitched at each other through e-mail,
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> I drank a not-insignificant amount of Yukon Jack....not enough to have
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> otherwise made me sick, but enough to be pretty drunk. Anyway, we finally
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> decided to talk things through in her room, and while i was waiting
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for her to
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> come pick me up (I was in no condition to get there myself), for some really
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> stupid reason i decided to drink the rest of this one bottle of cough
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syrup...
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> about 2.5 ounces. She arrived, we went to her room, we talked for a while,
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> cleared things up, and i then went to the bathroom to throw up. For 2 1/2
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> hours. Not fun.
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>
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> Sooo...unless you feel like verifying this, or if puking your guts out
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for damn
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> near 3 hours sounds like a fun way to spend an evening, DO NOT MIX DM AND
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> ALCOHOL!!!! Nuff said?
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>
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> peace, tony
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>
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> "Reality is what you can get away with" - Robert Anton Wilson
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>
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I agree...a couple of weeks ago (actually, it was that Friday night when
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we had the big blizzard here on the east coast), I consumed 8-9 shots of
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40 proof rum, which did not significantly intoxicate me, but definitely
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buzzed me somewhat. About an hour and a half later I drank 4 oz. of
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Robitussin DM (the kind with guanefenesin (sp) and DM). Anyway, very
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soon I noticed the difficulty focusing my eyes, and in about an hour,
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experienced nausea the likes of which I never hope to ever have again. I
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also broke out in an intense cold sweat (anybody else ever notice this).
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I don't know if these effects should be attributed to the alcohol/cough
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medicine combination, or just the fact that it was DM _and_ guanefenesin
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I had drunk, or what. Anyway, I didn't vomit, but I would have if I had
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moved the slightest from the sitting position I was in. The nausea
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passed within 5 minutes or so though, and the rest of the ~6 hour trip
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was mostly pleasant, with great enhancement of music perception [do ya
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think the guys in Phish ever did any drugs? nah :-)] and mild visuals
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such as trails.
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I definitely wouldn't recommend mixing alcohol and DM though, based
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on my experience.
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Bartley Troyan bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu
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Well, after all the messages about this stuff I decided to try it
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myself. Because I didn't want to get carried away I decided to try 2 oz
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and see what that did first. Well my first, and only, time trying that
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stuff was horrible. I ended up throwing up about 3 times on Saturday
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night. I also became very hyper and several times had problems
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breathing. Guess my system just doesn't like the stuff ay guys? Other
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symptoms included getting a fever and dizziness. This experience really
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scared the hell out of me. I think I'll just stick with the old methods
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from now on. I'm just glad I didn't take the whole damned bottle. I'm
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sure that would've been REALLY fun.......
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Jason
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From: aholdern@flute.calpoly.edu (Andy "skis" Holderness)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Robo DM...had to try it
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Message-ID: <1993Apr15.221357.158550@zeus.calpoly.edu>
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Date: 15 Apr 93 22:13:57 GMT
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Well all of this talk about Robotussen DM made me kind of
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curious...so I decided to try it for myself. I ran over to the drug
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store and bought an 8 oz bottle of regular strenght robotussen dm.
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Its about 85 degrees here so i didnt even try to pretend I had a cold. I
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did however mention to the cashier that due to budget problems Summer
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may have to be cancled this year. She gave me a puzzled look and
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appeared to become nervous (she must have had some summer plans:)), but
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she happily sold me the cough medicine.
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I went home, flipped on the TV and in one gulp drank half the
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bottle. The after taste had me on my knees but I managed not to puke. I
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waited about 45 mins, and nothing. After about an hour I began to feel
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kind of loopy but it didnt seem like anything major, so I promptly
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quaffed the rest of the bottle. Strangely enough it tasted kind of good
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this time. About 15 mins later i began to feel kind of drunk, I had no
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coordination whatsoever. And then about 15 minbs after that WHAM! I was
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delerious. I felt like I was sinking into the couch. It was as if
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gravity had doubled or tripled. I could not focus at all, and seemed to
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see everything in two dimensions. I didnt ever really lose it though,
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and with a lot of work I could almost control the effects. Millions of
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thoughts began to race through my mind. After about 6 hours I began to
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wonder if id ever come down. I had paranoid thoughts of never coming
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down. Somehow I managed to figure out how to use the phone, and begged
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one of my friends to bring me some anti-nasua medication. Well that did
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the trick after about 1/16 oz I was happay again, and promtly passed
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out.
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The next morning I didnt feel bad, but I was kind of light
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headed. This dizzyness stayed with me for a couple of days but
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eventually wore off.
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The whole experiance was interesting...
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Was it worth it?...Probably not. It is NOT like any mushrooms
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I've ever had. So I would recomend sticking with the safer, more
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enjoyable options discussed in this news group, rather than pounding a
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bottle of cough syrup.
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--
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-Andy
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When life has you down remember,
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you're just a figment of my imagination.
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Message-ID: <171306Z17081993@anon.penet.fi>
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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From: an17016@anon.penet.fi
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 17:12:18 UTC
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Subject: Possible DM psychosis..? Help?
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I am very tired, as I have had a long night of insomnia, but my
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sleeplessness was caused by reasons that I need to start to alleviate now. I
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am seeking, first and foremost, any and all information anyone may have on a
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Dextromethorphan Hybrobromide "psychosis". There is a long story to this, but
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I will do my best to summarize.
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Last night, while I was tripping, 2 of my 3 companions for the evening
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decided they'd get in on the excitement a bit with some handy Robitussin. The
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third was a) not interested, and b) the requisite babysitter/driver. Anyway,
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At some time in the chronological blur of last night, the Tussin user at whose
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we were decided that he wanted to try to astrally project. After this, he
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started acting strangely, and in a very disturbing manner.
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It took awhile for my effects to wear off to the level at which I could be
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certain that it was he and not I who was behaving strangely, but this
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morning's happenings have ultimately confirmed that. It was ten hours ago
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(from now, 8:30 AM) that he capped off his cough syrup, and since he tried to
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project, he's been speaking in a very monotone, broken speech. Very precise
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and inarticulate. He sounds like a robot, and very noticeably. He cannot
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think straight or focus on objects that are far away, says he "doesn't know"
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when asked how he is, and cannot specify where his limbs are unless he looks
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directly at them.
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This matches nothing I have experienced, nor anything that anyone I have
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read of has experienced, with the exception of an individual that mentioned a
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friend with a "manic" response to DM and LSD that has required hospitalization
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for up to a week. My friend, however, has used LSD a handful of times with no
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undesirable effects during or after the trips. Indeed, he tends to love the
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stuff. This experience, too, was thrilling, and he found it very amusing
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until his speech was decaying. Well, to be fair, he found the speech amusing
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for a couple hours, and recorded himself before getting bored/disturbed with
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it.
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Also, I was amazed that he wasn't tired. DM _should_, in my
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understanding, produce a sedating effect. He couldn't fall asleep, though,
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and didn't know whether or not he wanted to. He eventually did, with the help
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of the Valerian root that is kept around to cushion the "ride back down". The
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only problem is that he awoke in seemingly the same state. Through the entire
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drive to get me home, he seemed very disturbed, crossing his eyebrows and
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looking around alot, sitting in a contorted position. The other person in the
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car, [Driver's name here], asked if I was used to it lasting this long. I
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wasn't, and I reminded them that even if I was, I wasn't used to any of the
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other properties of his experience. The only thing any of us could think of
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was getting me home without causing alarm, and probing for information,
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specifically on the 'net.
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More importantly than the science behind my friend's experience, I need to
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know what I do now. Can we call the doctor with a case of intentional
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overdose of dextromethorphan? Are there certain lines we should/shouldn't
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call?
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What do we do, now? I beg your help, as my friend would, if he could get
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a firm enough grip on reality to decide whether or not he was alright.
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I'm somewhat frightened, honestly, and I do not find an uninformed,
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frightened state to be acceptable for the situation, in which SOME action
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seems necessary, and perhaps with relative haste.
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All help will be taken into account (and rest assured that this is not a
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cheap reference to "friend" as a convenient entity to take my blame, this is
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truly a good friend of mine, not me.)
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I'll check both Usenet and my mailbox religiously for the next few days.
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Thank you all dearly!
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From: cms52251@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (C. Matthew Sharkey)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: DMHBr, Questions and qualitative comments
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Date: 23 Sep 1993 18:49:20 GMT
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Message-ID: <27sr3g$klc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
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At one point last year, I was drinking about a 24 fl oz/week of robitussin
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in its two most palatable forms; Robitussin DM, and Robitussin Maximum
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strength Cough. The latter, in my opinion is a better deal as I think its
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cost/vol is comparable to DM, but you only need 2/3 as much to get the same
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amout of DMHBr.
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It has slipped my mind how much of the DMHBr is actually in the normal eight
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oz dose of DM or the 5.33oz dose of max. strength, but it was sufficient for
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a good12-18 hour trip. It should be noted, that if you plan to ingest
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heroic amounts of DMHBr, you must plan to be really out of it for at least
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30 hours. After the initial trip, you will have a feeling of falling a
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definite + to ++ on the Shulgin scale for at least another 12 hours. Also
|
||
I've never noticed any tolerance built for DMHBr. If there was a tolerance,
|
||
I think it would have become apparent. It's a good trip, but can, as with
|
||
any psychoactive compound, cause panic attacks as I have experienced at
|
||
least twice. As with all drugs, set and setting cannot be ignored with
|
||
DMHBr. A DMHBr powder was mentioned. Where is it available, not who can I
|
||
get it from, but what part of the country have you seen it in. I read of s
|
||
uch a powder in Mondo 200, but to my chagrin I've seen none. Does anyone
|
||
know how to extract DMHBr from the syrup, as kidneydamage can insue from
|
||
longterm ingestion of the syrup. That's why I stopped.
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: R.Justus@launchpad.unc.edu (John Ertel)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Tussin! Don't do it.
|
||
Date: 24 Sep 1993 14:51:29 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <27v1hh$671@samba.oit.unc.edu>
|
||
|
||
A FOAF of mine tried Tussian. 8 oz. of extra strength at 15 mg DXM per 5
|
||
mL and 1.4% alcohol. No other active drug ingredients. 700-750 mg total.
|
||
|
||
It hit pretty fast (within a half an hour) with light headedness and
|
||
slight disorientation. After an hour there was SEVERE disorientation and
|
||
depersonalization. He felt almost as if he were outside himself looking
|
||
in. There weren't especially harsh visual effects as in real
|
||
hallucinations. Things were very grainy and somewhat distorted. Unable
|
||
to keep focus on much of anything. He got severe itching fits several
|
||
times (the only way around it was to ignore the itching, stop and wait til
|
||
you forget about it). Breathing often felt slightly constricted as if you
|
||
were wearing a tight shirt collar. There were severe heat flashes so
|
||
that we had to turn a fan on high in an air conditioned house. Walking
|
||
was very difficult. Hard to keep a balance. Time was VERY distorted.
|
||
The whole trip lasted about an 1.5-2 hrs for the strong effects but it
|
||
seemed like FOREVER. He was also very dehydrated and found it hard to get
|
||
the damn cherry taste out of his mouth. Also, this person has taken many
|
||
trips on acid and several shroom trips and has never had anything as scary
|
||
as this experience. Several times he wondered if he would make it through
|
||
it alive. Probably due to the fact that it was an unknown experience. 4
|
||
hrs after taking the tussin he was driven home from teh friends' place he
|
||
was at. He through up twice between the stairs and the door to his room.
|
||
Apparently the car ride had disturbed his stomache. Luckily almost all he
|
||
had in his stomach was liquid from drinking. Coming down took a while.
|
||
Effects were very similar to coming down off of acid. Unable to sleep,
|
||
small muscle jitters. All in all something he would never do again and
|
||
which is really going to turn him off of drugs for a while, if not forever.
|
||
|
||
Ick. Recmmendation: If you want to try tussin, don't do too large of an
|
||
amount. Stick to the lower amounts for the buzzing effect. Similar to
|
||
being drunk. This is NOT just like taking acid :) This was worse of a
|
||
trip than my friend ever had on acid or shrooms.
|
||
--
|
||
The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
|
||
North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
|
||
Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
|
||
internet: laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
|
||
|
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=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: jane@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Jane Ellis)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Tussin can be BAD!
|
||
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.215556.20756@unislc.slc.unisys.com>
|
||
Date: 27 Sep 93 21:55:56 GMT
|
||
|
||
the following is an experience related by a FOAF. i am posting this for
|
||
him as a favor, but not on my own account (i don't have access to the
|
||
annon service). in other words, the person who's name is associated with
|
||
this post is completely innocent (and foolish for leaving their terminal
|
||
logged in). also, i don't know him/her, and he/she doesn't know me, so
|
||
don't bother asking. here it is: . . .
|
||
|
||
I always wanted to know what an acid trip was like, and I heard
|
||
that you can get the same effects with DM cough syrup, so I
|
||
went to the drug store and picked up a 4 oz (120 mL) bottle of
|
||
extra strength DM "tussin" cough syrup. It was an in-store
|
||
brand comparable to extra strength Robitussin. The specs on
|
||
the bottle said:
|
||
Ingredients per teaspoonful (5 mL)
|
||
Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide, USP 15 mg
|
||
in syrup with Alcohol 1.4%.
|
||
These were the only ingredients.
|
||
|
||
The first time, I was a little nervous, so I only took 120 mg
|
||
of DM (40 mL or 8 teaspoons or 1/3 of the bottle). Within an
|
||
hour or two, I started feeling a mild buzz. I was talkative
|
||
and I seemed to notice colors and lights a little more than
|
||
usual. These mild effects lasted about 5 hours before I felt
|
||
like it was totally worn off.
|
||
|
||
The next day, I got a little bolder. I downed the remaining
|
||
portion of the bottle. This amounted to 240 mg (80 mL or 16
|
||
teaspoons or 2/3 of the bottle). I ate some food both times,
|
||
so this may have delayed the start of the effects. Perhaps
|
||
there was a little bit left in my system from the day before.
|
||
|
||
I was sitting down, doing some reading, and nothing happened
|
||
for well over an hour or maybe two hours. Then, all of the
|
||
sudden, I got a severe heat flash. It felt like a sick wave
|
||
flowing over my entire body. I could even feel a strong
|
||
buzzing (almost like pain) in the roots of my teeth. Every
|
||
inch of skin on my body felt like it was next to a hot water
|
||
bottle. I was very light headed and thought I was going to
|
||
die. I quickly scribbled information on a piece of paper to
|
||
tell anyone that found me what I had taken. The heat flash
|
||
went away after what seemed like 5 or 10 minutes. Actually it
|
||
was probably only a minute or two. I felt my forehead and it
|
||
was dripping with sweat.
|
||
|
||
I was ok for a while after that. I talked with a friend for
|
||
about 10 or 15 minutes, but it seemed like hours. Again, I was
|
||
very talkative. I felt like I was making sense, and having an
|
||
enjoyable time. I just felt spacy. There were no visual
|
||
hallucinations, but things did look a bit foggy.
|
||
|
||
After my friend left I got several more heat flashes. They
|
||
seemed to be getting closer together. Each time, I thought I
|
||
was going to die or at least pass out. Each time it happened,
|
||
I just kept telling myself, "I'm going go get throught this."
|
||
over and over. VERY unpleasant!
|
||
|
||
I walked around a little bit. My head seemed to be bobbing up
|
||
and down like you feel while sitting in a small boat on the
|
||
waves. Things were a little distorted. I felt like a midget
|
||
walking down the hall. I had some difficulty talking
|
||
coherently. My eyes started to burn, and my mouth became
|
||
excessively dry. I couldn't concentrate on anything for more
|
||
than a few seconds. I tried to focus on reality so I wouldn't
|
||
loose control. I used to use MJ so I was able to keep from
|
||
panicing, but it is still a scary to face the unknown.
|
||
|
||
As the frequency of the heat flashes increased, I began to
|
||
wonder if the DM was still getting into my system, and making
|
||
things worse. I had serious doubts about whether or not I
|
||
could get myself home in this condition. I determined that if
|
||
things got any worse, that I might die, so I picked up a phone
|
||
book and started looking for emergency numbers. I remember
|
||
being totally frustrated because I knew I wanted to find a
|
||
number to call to get help, but all I could do was flip the
|
||
pages. I couldn't figure out exactly what to look up.
|
||
Finally, I looked inside the front cover. 911 seemed a little
|
||
drastic. The only other number was poison control. After
|
||
several attempts, I finally dialed the number successfully.
|
||
The problem was that I couldn't remember which digit I had just
|
||
dialed or which one to dial next. I was quite incoherent on
|
||
the phone, and had a lot of difficulty giving my address, phone
|
||
number, etc. The lady told me that I had taken quite a lot,
|
||
and that I should have someone take me to a hospital. I asked
|
||
what might happen to me if I didn't go, and she said that I
|
||
possibly could go into a coma and/or stop breathing. This
|
||
scared me enought that I decided I needed to go in.
|
||
|
||
I found a friend that was willing to take me in. Thank
|
||
goodness for friends. In the Emergency Room, I experienced
|
||
several more heat flashes. My heart rate was up to almost 120
|
||
beats per minute when I was at my calmest point. They pumped
|
||
my stomach and put activated charcoal down me to absorb any
|
||
remaining DM. That is an experience well worth avoiding! I
|
||
even preferred the blood and urine tests to the gastric lavage.
|
||
My nose and throat were quite sore for several days afterward.
|
||
I started coming down in less that an hour after these
|
||
treatments. The doctor told me that the dose wasn't fatal, but
|
||
if I hadn't come in, I might have passed out, and probably
|
||
would have continued to experience the symptoms for at least
|
||
another 8 hours. It would have been a real trick to explain
|
||
that one to my family. It was hard enough to explain as it
|
||
was. DM seems to be much more toxic than I had anticipated.
|
||
|
||
As I came down, my vision cleared up. I realized that the
|
||
emergency sprinkler system in the ceiling was actually covered
|
||
with dust. When I first got in there, it looked like it was
|
||
covered with some crystaline jelly; I didn't even know it was a
|
||
mild hallucination at the time. So, what good is a
|
||
hallucination if you don't know it's a hallucination? I wonder
|
||
what else I hallucinated.
|
||
|
||
They let me go within about 4 hours after I was admitted to
|
||
E.R. At that point, I had a significant head ache, like a
|
||
heavy hangover. My nose ached deep inside where they had put
|
||
the tube in. I think it took several more hours for my heart
|
||
rate to go back to normal. There was also a jittery twitchy
|
||
feeling in the back of my leggs. I didn't sleep well that
|
||
night. The hangover feeling lasted for another day. Three
|
||
days later, I took half of an imipramine (a prescription
|
||
antidepressant left over from a legitimate prescription)
|
||
because my head felt a little foggy. A few hours later, I got
|
||
a miniature heat flash, and felt a little spacey. That never
|
||
happened before when I was on these antidepressants.
|
||
|
||
All in all, I think it was a VERY bad experience! Sure there
|
||
were a few weird effects, but the negatives far outweighed the
|
||
positives. The dose I took was significantly lower than what
|
||
some people claim to have taken. I'm just glad I didn't chug
|
||
the whole bottle at once. Perhaps some people's bodies can
|
||
handle DM better than mine, but I have also noticed a large
|
||
increase in people telling about bad experiences with it.
|
||
|
||
I don't think it's a very good idea to take a chance with DM.
|
||
But, if you do, please start with lower doses, let a few days
|
||
pass between doses, and increase the doses gradually. Not like
|
||
me where I took twice as much as the time before. As for me, I
|
||
don't think I will ever take DM again! As for you, try
|
||
something safer, or at least be very carefull! BTW, I now
|
||
hear that the tussin high is quite a bit different than being
|
||
high on LSD, so I guess I still don't know what acid is like.
|
||
|
||
me
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 20:11:53 EDT
|
||
From: kris kennedy <KEK122@psuvm.psu.edu>
|
||
Message-ID: <93270.201153KEK122@psuvm.psu.edu>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: re:robein'
|
||
|
||
I've taken Robitussin a few times (well, at least generic eqivalents with the
|
||
same quantity of active ingredients) and frankly, I don't get it. The first
|
||
time all I did was catch a few trails from a cigarette after drinking about
|
||
4 oz. I heard some interesting noises, and procede to get really ill. I mean,
|
||
I thought I was going to have to go to the hospital because I felt like my
|
||
stomach and intestines were on fire. My friends thought that was strange and
|
||
we figured I probably had the flu or something. So I tried it again, this time
|
||
drinking eith ounces and I felt even worse. The trip was definitely not worth
|
||
the intense physical pain I felt for 36 hours afterwards. I'm not sure if
|
||
this is a common thing or not, or if I'm just some freak with a sensitive
|
||
stomach. Thanks, but I'll stick to illicit drugs that make me feel good,
|
||
not one's that make me feel like I'm in hell!
|
||
|
||
Kris
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Tussin Stuff
|
||
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.220008.5678@msus1.msus.edu>
|
||
From: johnsoncl@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
|
||
Date: 27 Sep 93 22:00:08 -0600
|
||
|
||
Ok, I have done the Tussin Toss quite a number of times in the last nine months
|
||
or so. Other drugs are very hard to come by for an introvert, but alas, the
|
||
grocery stores are always open to the young wanting to pollute their minds
|
||
with something more interesting and less plain old degrading than alcohol.
|
||
Moot point anyway. I would say that I have done the toss about 15-20 times
|
||
at least, and have just started up again after giving my body a 3 month breather
|
||
|
||
Anyhow, to get to the point, I drank a 4ozer of Robo Max Strength Cold and
|
||
Cough the other evening. (Personal aside: This is the best deal for the
|
||
money, because of it's lack of nasty things like Guaffesin. Although, some
|
||
may not be able to handle the high amounts of Pseudo Ephedrine in it. YMMV)
|
||
I remember vaguely back in my mind the constant rumors about how Vitamin C
|
||
has an effect on hallucinations and the such. So I pick up a big bottle of
|
||
OJ along with my cold medication (hey, the cashier must've thought I was
|
||
really down with a bad cold). I drank the foul medicine and waited the 45
|
||
or so minutes for the effects to kick in. I had a couple of cigarettes in the
|
||
meantime (don't chide me for tobacco use, please), and felt pretty much the
|
||
normal effects. Well, thinking that I was beginning to hit my normal threshold
|
||
, I began drinking some of the orange juice to wash some of the taste out of my
|
||
mouth. Within 20 or so minutes, I had finished about half of the orange juice,
|
||
and began feeling, well, different. Normally, I am used to a euphoric
|
||
feeling when I take tussin, a sort of drunkeness, and a high amount of energy
|
||
(probably because of the super-doses of Ephedrine involved). But this time,
|
||
I had all the normal effects, plus much more increased visuals. Normally, I
|
||
do not have much in the way of visuals (on any drug, actually), so it kind of
|
||
suprised me. Things were definately a little haywire. I had a hard time with
|
||
control of my body, too. I felt much more stoned than ever before.
|
||
|
||
Could this have been just a psychological reaction? Perhaps my mind was
|
||
telling me, hey, your doing OJ with it. Let's play with him a little bit.
|
||
|
||
Anyhow, just relating a bit of my experience. I've been reading a lot of the
|
||
messages on here about all the people having bad experiences. I feel sorry
|
||
for them, truly, especially if you ended u
|
||
|
||
up in a hospital. I have personally had no problems with DM. Sure, it makes
|
||
my stomach mightly upset for the next couple days, and urination becomes a
|
||
bit of a hassle during the actual trip, not to mention the sleep loss. But
|
||
nothing life threatening, at least, not yet. I warn anyone with a weak stomach,
|
||
or some sort of previous bad experience with the stuff to just forget it, you
|
||
don't need it that bad if it's going to be nothing but problems.
|
||
|
||
A depressed little soul who only feels truly alive under the influence (and
|
||
hates himself for it)
|
||
--Chris
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Message-ID: <191318Z28091993@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an38503@anon.penet.fi
|
||
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 19:08:48 UTC
|
||
Subject: Re: Tussin can be BAD!
|
||
|
||
In article <1993Sep27.215556.20756@unislc.slc.unisys.com> jane@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Jane Ellis) writes:
|
||
>Ingredients per teaspoonful (5 mL)
|
||
> Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide, USP 15 mg
|
||
> in syrup with Alcohol 1.4%.
|
||
>These were the only ingredients.
|
||
>
|
||
My girlfriend and I decided to try this. We also used a store brand,
|
||
ingredients same as listed above. We bought an 8oz bottle and split
|
||
it, total DXM per person ~360mg.
|
||
|
||
We had a good time. We both thought it was more like being really
|
||
drunk without a reason (i.e. we knew we hadn't consumed any alcohol),
|
||
than like our (admittedly few) experiences with LSD. That is to
|
||
say that the disorientation and loss of motor control seemed more
|
||
like a drunk than an LSD trip, and those were the predominant effects.
|
||
I experienced all the same things that the "anonymous poster who
|
||
used Jane Ellis' account" listed below:
|
||
|
||
> Things were a little distorted. I felt like a midget
|
||
>walking down the hall. I had some difficulty talking
|
||
>coherently. ...and my mouth became
|
||
>excessively dry.
|
||
|
||
The midget effect was pretty cool--not like being drunk, I admit.
|
||
It only lasted a few seconds, though :-(.
|
||
|
||
After a couple hours, I started to get hungry. I couldn't
|
||
figure out what I wanted to eat, though, and any specific food item
|
||
I thought of made me feel like I was gonna puke. Even water.
|
||
This was sorta bad, because I got dehydrated-feeling, and woke up
|
||
the next morning with one of those really splitting behind-the-eyes
|
||
you-didn't-drink-any-water-before-going-to-bed hangover-type
|
||
headaches. With tylenol and advil, it took all the next day to get rid
|
||
of that headache.
|
||
|
||
We both had bouts of the itchies. They passed. The worst was
|
||
when my ears (which, BTW, were buzzing loudly at that moment)
|
||
started to itch way down deep inside. Ugh.
|
||
|
||
In my comparison to the 3-4 times I've tried LSD, I have to say
|
||
that this was fundamentally different. When an LSD trip hits me,
|
||
I get really excitable. Jittery. Heart rate goes up, sweat,
|
||
jump around, etc. When this stuff hit, I felt dopey. Like there
|
||
was a cloud descending over my brain. I was light headed &
|
||
quite dizzy, and certainly didn't feel like jumping around.
|
||
|
||
All in all, not a bad experience, but not an exceptional one.
|
||
My girlfriend also said she liked it, but she had a slight
|
||
headache the next day too.
|
||
|
||
I should also mention that we had just moved the day we tried
|
||
this, and we were both exceptionally tired, muscle-achy, etc.
|
||
Even still, we didn't have the horrible experiences other people
|
||
have reported.
|
||
|
||
Cheers!
|
||
|
||
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: WSTATLER@HOLONET.NET
|
||
Subject: Re: Tussin can be BAD!
|
||
Message-ID: <CECGqo.Dnv@iat.holonet.net>
|
||
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 23:18:23 GMT
|
||
|
||
[quoted text deleted -cak]
|
||
|
||
Just wanted to mention that FOAF -- oh, hell, it was _me_, FOAF can take
|
||
a hike! -- had a very similar reaction to a mere 150 mg of
|
||
dextromethorphan HBr (from Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough). I took
|
||
the DM a few hours after lunch. One hour later, I had a small snack of
|
||
cheese, pretzels and ginger ale, which was probably a bad idea. I spent
|
||
most of the next hour sitting on the couch trying to ignore waves of
|
||
nausea. My Loyal Assistant brought me a large "security bucket", just
|
||
in case.
|
||
|
||
At about the 2 hour mark, I ate an antacid. This was rather like
|
||
pressing the ignition button for the Space Shuttle. I became very
|
||
uncomfortable physically in a way that's hard to describe -- hot,
|
||
sweating, panting rapidly, "buzzing" feeling all over. This was so
|
||
intense that it took me about 15 seconds to realize that I was also
|
||
about to vomit. I managed to make it from the couch to the floor, where
|
||
my bucket was, and the two of us became good friends for a couple of
|
||
minutes. When I could think again, I realized that my whole body,
|
||
especially my hands, had been/were still "buzzing" -- it felt something
|
||
like a continuous AC electric shock combined with "pins and needles"
|
||
like when your arm goes to sleep. Loyal Assistant tells me I was
|
||
panting rapidly throughout the whole episode, so hyperventilation may
|
||
have contributed to the effects.
|
||
|
||
I don't think this was a "set and setting" problem, as someone
|
||
suggested. My DM dose was rather low, and the psychoactive effects were
|
||
comparable in magnitude to what I'd get from a few glasses of wine. My
|
||
guess is that my body pressed the YOU HAVE BEEN POISONED red-alert
|
||
button, and took emergency measures to dump my stomach and "save" me.
|
||
Afterwards, I felt pretty good, although still a little nauseous. In
|
||
fact, the whole experience was so vivid and memorable that I can almost
|
||
say I enjoyed it (although I'm not in a big hurry to try it again!).
|
||
|
||
It looks like there's a _lot_ of individual variation in reactions to
|
||
DM. I seem to be unusually susceptible to the negative effects,
|
||
unfortunately (although I might do better on a completely empty
|
||
stomach). My suggestions from my limited experiences: treat DM like a
|
||
serious drug, experiment with low doses first, and have a sober friend
|
||
available to take care of you.
|
||
|
||
Oh, and DON'T DRIVE for 2 days! I know someone who had a pleasant DM
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experience, felt totally sober and normal the next morning, and
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proceeded to try to make a right turn into the left lane of an empty
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divided roadway as if driving in England. I can't prove that this was
|
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an after-effect of the DM, but I think it would be best to err on the
|
||
side of caution.
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===================================
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Bill Statler (wstatler@holonet.net)
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Pasco, Washington, USA
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|
||
|
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From: suippis@himlen.pulp.nullnet.fi (Petri Wallenius)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: About DXM HBr (Robo) ??????
|
||
Message-ID: <Z6L5ec2w165w@himlen.pulp.nullnet.fi>
|
||
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 18:21:10 EET
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||
|
||
I have heard people having great time with DXM, but it didn't work
|
||
for me. Does anyone know what's the problem. I took 375 mg of
|
||
Dextrometorphan hydrobromide. Is that right compound ? If it is
|
||
did I take enuff ? Or am I some kind of tolerated to that stuff ?
|
||
Should I try again with greater dose ? Any help is greatly valued.
|
||
|
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Thanks,
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: bunbury@cscns.com ()
|
||
Subject: Re: Robitussin DM?
|
||
Message-ID: <CJwwv9.6os@cscns.com>
|
||
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 05:06:45 GMT
|
||
|
||
[quoted text deleted -cak]
|
||
|
||
I just thought I would relate *my* experience with robo. I drank a 4 oz
|
||
bottle of d-methorphan syrup (no guifenisen). While the high was not
|
||
exactly unpleasant it was definitely fucked up wierd. sort of a dreamy
|
||
stupor, didn't care what was going on around me, etc. the two side
|
||
effects, were: one It was very difficult to urinate (this effect lasted
|
||
for a couple of days), and two, the dopiness lasted (gradually wearing
|
||
off) for three days. If you try robo, don't plan on going to work or doing
|
||
anything significant for a couple of days, perahps you will be able to,
|
||
but I couldn't, and you might not either.
|
||
|
||
In conclusion, I would have to say that one has to be feeling VERY
|
||
dysphoric, and/or desperate for a high to take robo. it definitely will
|
||
get you fucked up, but pleasure? not much if any.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Message-ID: <005302Z25011994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an45874@anon.penet.fi
|
||
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 00:45:56 UTC
|
||
Subject: Dextromethorphan Experience
|
||
|
||
DISCLAIMER: The following describes one person's experience in taking an
|
||
over-the-counter (OTC) cough medicine in excess of the package's maximum
|
||
recommended dose. In no way does this post recommend, suggest, or imply
|
||
that you are safe doing the same. It is meant for informational purposes
|
||
only and should not be considered an exhaustive examination of the
|
||
subject. It is the responsibility of the individual to inform themselves
|
||
of the risks involved in any activity before they participate. You, and
|
||
you alone, are responsible for your actions and their results.
|
||
|
||
REMEMBER YOU ARE PLAYING WITH YOUR LIFE! JUST SAY KNOW!
|
||
|
||
In an attempt to advance the net.wisdom.cough_syrup I have posted a
|
||
friend's account of an experience with dextromethorphan, an OTC cough
|
||
suppressant. Please no flames about his choice of inebriant, suffice to
|
||
say the WOsD has made preferred choices difficult to obtain.
|
||
Desperate men -> desperate actions.
|
||
|
||
THE PLAYERS:
|
||
One 81 kilogram human male.
|
||
Drixoral(*) Cough Liquid Caps - 10 capsules @ 30 mg each = 300 mg
|
||
Eckerd(*) Tussin Maximum Strength - 2 oz. @ 120 mg each = 240 mg.
|
||
Total dose = 6.6 mg/kg.
|
||
|
||
THE SETTTING:
|
||
My House (bedroom mostly), daytime
|
||
|
||
THE SET:
|
||
I took the day off (my birthday) to do this. In general I'm kinda
|
||
bummed that I have no way to get to more appropriate (for me) (but
|
||
illegal) substances. No way, however, that does not risk a total
|
||
collapse of the straight, upstanding reality in which I must live.
|
||
Other than that I'm doing OK.
|
||
|
||
THE CRONOLOGY:
|
||
0730: Cold cereal & coffee breakfast.
|
||
0830: Took Drixoral (300 mg.)
|
||
0930: No effects, took Tussin (240 mg.)
|
||
1000: Diffuclty walking without noticable effects (but I think I was
|
||
able to.) Not unlike mild alcohol inebriation.
|
||
1030: Everything kicks in. (I think the caps took a while to dissolve)
|
||
Only severe motor control difficulties and a general loss of
|
||
tactile sensation. Layed down.
|
||
|
||
At this point I spent the next 3 hours lying in bed, not out of necessity,
|
||
I just didn't feel like moving. I alternated between eyes-open and
|
||
eyes-closed 'images'. Not acid-like hallucinations, more like visions.
|
||
Static, unchanging (as opposed to 'melting' or 'swirling') images. I
|
||
distinctly remember three: The bedspread looked like a far-off mountain
|
||
range; my leg looked like it was hundreds of feet long, and I remember the
|
||
peculiar feeling of rotating in a plane in both directions at once (like
|
||
alcohol 'spins') with no feeling of nasuea. This was accompanied by the
|
||
inexplicable visual equivalent (of spinning both ways at once). There was
|
||
a period when I was beset by words rather than images. At some point I
|
||
crawled across the room and pet the cat. I believe that walking would have
|
||
been practically impossible.
|
||
|
||
There were no periods of ego-loss or understanding the mysteries of
|
||
existance, no epiphanies experienced, no greater truths discovered.
|
||
But hey, it's a narcotic, not a hallucinogen.
|
||
|
||
1330: Made it onto the couch, watched TV. Feeling pretty much 'normal'
|
||
except for an unplesant, whole-body 'ache' and lack of motor skills.
|
||
1600: Able to move about almost normally, ache dimishing. Tried to eat a
|
||
cookie (could only nibble) and drink some Diet Coke(*) (could only
|
||
sip. WAY to sweet). No nausea.
|
||
1700: Able to 'fake' normality (movement, conversation).
|
||
|
||
The ache continued for another 36 hours, I had very little appetite that
|
||
evening and the next day. Never felt nauseous. All in all I doubt that I
|
||
will do it again.
|
||
|
||
[text deleted -cak]
|
||
|
||
* Drixoral, Eckerd, and Diet Coke are registered trademarks or trade names.
|
||
About all the disclaimers, references & trademarks - Better safe than sorry ;^)
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|
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|
||
|
||
From: Adam Malter <am5g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Re: Robitussin DM
|
||
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 09:38:05 -0500
|
||
Message-ID: <IhKYPBe00iV882DWt1@andrew.cmu.edu>
|
||
In-Reply-To: <67.15907.706.0N415B99@bgbbs.com>
|
||
|
||
Excerpts from netnews.alt.drugs: 9-Feb-94 Robitussin DM by Rocky
|
||
Frisco@bgbbs.com
|
||
> If our government would stop the War on Pot, you wouldn't consider doing
|
||
> all this stupid poison just to get a buzz.
|
||
>
|
||
|
||
|
||
uhhhh... Not to be picky and this is just my own PERSONAL view but I
|
||
like getting Robo'd much more then getting stoned. (Not that getting
|
||
stoned is bad :) Robo is a much more mental trip. When your stoned you
|
||
can say "Whoo man I am fucked up..." With dex (dextromethorphan that is)
|
||
you almost can't tell that its a chemical making you feel good. Its very
|
||
subtle but strong at the same time. You just feel excellent. You feel
|
||
free and everyone around seems so nice. Music can become something more
|
||
then just music, On one trip I was in a coffehouse and it felt like I
|
||
was swimming in a wild rushing torrent of musical notes. One of the most
|
||
pleasurable expierences of my life. I do not get that empty headed
|
||
feeling I get with pot. It also lasts much longer (for me, I know people
|
||
that pot lasts longer for them). Off 6 ozs or so I can get 6 to 8 eight
|
||
hours of incredible and intense tripping. For everyone who hasn't tried
|
||
it, trust me it is not a cheap buzz. Drinking 6 ozs can be one of the
|
||
funest things you can do.
|
||
|
||
PS- It can also be real cheap if go to the right place. While real
|
||
Robitussin can be $5.00 a 4 oz bottle Rite Aid Cough Formula has more
|
||
Dex in it, less impurities and costs $3.50 for 8 ozs. I think the 10%
|
||
alcohol in the Rite Aid helps it become more intense also.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-Adam Malter
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: x (x)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Re: Robitussin DM
|
||
Date: 15 Feb 1994 06:41:52 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <x-150294004108@slip-2-95.ots.utexas.edu>
|
||
|
||
I ate 25 Vick's gel caps containing 30mg of DM each friday night at about
|
||
10:30pm. i was up until 11 the next morning, and fried until about 7am. it
|
||
didn't help that the gelcaps also had pseudoephedrine in them, of course.
|
||
but it was fantastic. i stayed up at a party with two other stoned guys
|
||
'till 6am. it's very comforting to just listen to someone talk when on
|
||
robo, and one guy talked for about 5 hours straight. it was fantastic. i
|
||
was in another world, and really uncoordinated. it's difficult to describe,
|
||
but sort of like mushrooms without the visuals or emotional surges. you're
|
||
out of it but you can still function, sort of. plus you can smoke like a
|
||
fiend and not feel a thing, so you can indulge your nervous habits. but
|
||
every physical movement was a labor. maybe kind of like being a bit
|
||
right-brain impaired. definitely recommended. you can steal packs of gel
|
||
caps easily from any large grocery store. just stay away from the
|
||
guafenisen, or however you spell it. it's hard to keep down and only gets
|
||
in the way. i've also eaten Delsym with polystirex - it's not as intense,
|
||
but then i only drank one bottle. might want to try two.
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Message-ID: <002311Z17021994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an50600@anon.penet.fi (Mr. B)
|
||
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 00:22:43 UTC
|
||
Subject: Robo Testimonial
|
||
|
||
Let me provide my testimonial about roboing. Yesterday I picked up an
|
||
8 oz. bottle of generic brand extra-strength cough syrup, containing
|
||
only Dextro as its active ingredient. I immediately downed somewhere
|
||
under 4 oz. of the stuff. Taste wasn't as bad as I expected. Chugged a
|
||
good deal of water to wash it down anyway, and nibbled on some bread.
|
||
Nausea was not a problem at all.
|
||
|
||
About an hour later it started to hit. Motor skills were definitely
|
||
impaired. Pupils were very large. I felt like I was on shrooms, but
|
||
without mood-alterations or significant visuals. Television images
|
||
appeared to be moving in slow motion like when on acid. Unlike what
|
||
I've heard posted here, music did not sound very interesting. This was
|
||
a big disappointment since claims to the contrary were what convinced
|
||
me to give it a try. I did not feel particularly euphoric or bad. My
|
||
mood was essentially an unchanged neutral, which was wierd since in
|
||
other respects I was definitely "tripping". I kept saying to myself,
|
||
"OK, the good part of the trip should be coming soon..." but it never
|
||
did!
|
||
|
||
Walking was definitely difficult, although mental functioning seemed
|
||
to be OK. I carried on many conversations with little difficulty, in
|
||
contrast to my experiences with shrooms and 'cid. I was hoping the
|
||
amount I consumed would be a mild dose, but I must say I was
|
||
significantly affected. I can't imagine what would have happened if I
|
||
finished the bottle! It's now 16 hours after the initial consumption.
|
||
I slept fine last night, but I still feel the effects. My pupils are
|
||
still huge and I still feel like my motor skills are
|
||
impaired. (I'm typing much slower now than my usual 100 wpm.).
|
||
|
||
Is this usual for these effects to persist for so long? It's kinda
|
||
a pain because I have work to do! Wierd body chemistry I guess.
|
||
|
||
In short, I guess it was worth the experience but I can't see any
|
||
reason to try it again. It's lasting longer than any shroom or acid
|
||
trip I've ever had, and it just ain't nearly as much fun. I'll stick
|
||
with pot thank you.
|
||
|
||
Mr. B.
|
||
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|
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|
||
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|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an73187@anon.penet.fi
|
||
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 10:08:17 UTC
|
||
Subject: dextromethorphan hydrobromide allergy
|
||
|
||
This is obviously not a common reaction to dextromethorphan hydrobromide
|
||
but since mine was so severe I felt I should share it for the
|
||
sake of others who may be using themselves as a lab animal for
|
||
dextromethorphan hydrobromide research.
|
||
|
||
I was using Robotussin Extra Strength since it seems to have only
|
||
dextromethorphan hydrobromide as an active ingrediant, 15 mg
|
||
per teaspoon. I took 4 ounces of this.
|
||
|
||
After about an hour and a half, I got intense itching on my scalp.
|
||
This spread over the next hour to the rest of my body. I took
|
||
my clothes off and found that my entire body was bright red
|
||
and was swelling - my face was getting tight and my eyes were
|
||
swelling shut.
|
||
|
||
At that time I took 2 Benedryl and waited out the 20 minutes.
|
||
Thankfully, the reaction was stopped. This was a sufficiently
|
||
serious reaction that had the Benedryl not helped within 20
|
||
minutes, I would have headed for the hospital. I did not
|
||
relish the idea of telling them I had drank a half a bottle of
|
||
cough medicine - when I was a kid only real down and out types
|
||
resorted to cough medicine for getting high (it was about
|
||
one step above drinking antifreezei (don't drink antifreeze - it WILL
|
||
kill you. I know, I found a body on the back step once)).ATZ
|
||
|
||
Have fun, but stay safe.
|
||
|
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|
||
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: begenisi@Oswego.EDU (John M Begenisich )
|
||
Subject: Robo Experience
|
||
Message-ID: <1994Mar6.233505.8871@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
|
||
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 23:35:05 GMT
|
||
|
||
*We walked about four miles to the supermarket and back so maybe
|
||
fatigue had a part to play.*
|
||
|
||
--Upon arriving at supermarket, we looked at various Robitussin's and
|
||
chose the CF variety (as it had the most unpronounceable chemicals).
|
||
|
||
--Walked home.
|
||
|
||
--10:40--Consumed 4oz. in rapid succession.
|
||
|
||
--10:50--Felt "weird"
|
||
|
||
--11:00--Consumed 2oz. more
|
||
|
||
--11:05--(Ian) "I can feel my individual hairs on my head"
|
||
(Eric) zoning out
|
||
|
||
--11:15--(Ian) feels fucked up.
|
||
(Eric) still zoning
|
||
|
||
--11:18--(Ian) puked, feels A LOT better
|
||
|
||
--11:20--(Eric) can now feel hair (as if standing on end)
|
||
|
||
--11:25--(Ian & Eric) zoning HARD
|
||
|
||
--11:30--(Eric) puked (very easy to vomit), feels much better
|
||
|
||
--11:45--(Ian & Eric) Royally *FUCKED* Personality disappears into the
|
||
back of the mind. Heightened awareness, very floaty feeling.
|
||
Warm sensations everywhere, extremely flushed face.
|
||
|
||
--11:55--(Eric) Diarrhea hits. Hard. New meaning to word "runs." Pure
|
||
liquid fecal matter. Extreme fear of dehydration. Consumed approx.
|
||
200 oz. of water. (Yes, 200)
|
||
|
||
--12:30--(Ian) Intense stomach pains. "Damn, I wish we got a bag
|
||
instead." There goes my hair again.
|
||
|
||
--12:45--Lost Eric in bathroom. Still shitting water. Both of us have
|
||
"out of body" feeling. Very lightheaded.
|
||
|
||
--12:53--(Ian) Fuzzy brain. Stomach pains come in waves. Feel great when
|
||
stomach is calm.
|
||
|
||
--1:25-- (Ian) Now I have the shits. Ass on fire. I've never gone to the
|
||
bathroom like this before, ever.
|
||
|
||
--1:45-- Beginning to wear off. Planning to scrape bowl to soothe
|
||
stomach. (Where is that resin)
|
||
|
||
--1:50-- Both of us took 2 Imodium AD to plug the bowels from Hell.
|
||
Immediately feel better. Shits end. Thank god for modern science.
|
||
|
||
--2:18-- Feel stoned. Good resin. Stomach pains gone, effects of robo
|
||
almost completely gone. Zone out really hard looking at the TV.
|
||
|
||
--3:00-- Time for bed. No mo ROBO!!!
|
||
|
||
|
||
At 11:55, my roomate (who was sober) wrote up his observations of Eric and
|
||
my trip.
|
||
|
||
11:55-- Ian is flushed, a little babbling, still coherent. Complaining
|
||
about stomach. Eric is whining a lot about stomach and the shits. Both
|
||
feel numb, esp. numb scalps. Ian says "intestines are gurgling, I can
|
||
feel my brain. Eric is scared of dying. They want joints. Both can
|
||
"breathe so good" (we drank one hell of a lot of decongestant! -Ian)
|
||
Ian feels fake, "zoned." John waves pencil in front of Ian's face to
|
||
bring him back. Eric has shits. They want to watch Conan. "I couldn't
|
||
get it up to save my life." (unclaimed quote) Eric zones on Conan.
|
||
Have fun boys.
|
||
|
||
|
||
I don't know what you'll learn from this, our only recommendation
|
||
is to NOT robo. It's an interesting high, but it feels totally synthetic
|
||
and you spend half of your trip in the bathroom. If you are that hard up
|
||
for a high counseling may be in order.
|
||
From now on we're sticking to the all natural mj and 'shrooms.
|
||
(God's food)
|
||
|
||
Hope you learned something,
|
||
Eric and Ian
|
||
|
||
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|
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|
||
iobrien@oswego.oswego.edu (Ian O'Brien) Ernest Borgnine was
|
||
eschmidt@oswego.oswego.edu (Eric Schmidt) a hero to most, but he's
|
||
no Larry Bagina.
|
||
FOUNDING FATHERS OF THE LARRY BAGINA FAN CLUB
|
||
*LBFC FOREVER*
|
||
email for info on LBFC :-) (-:
|
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|
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Message-ID: <022309Z19021994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an50600@anon.penet.fi (Mr. B)
|
||
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 02:17:27 UTC
|
||
Subject: Re: Robo Testimonial
|
||
|
||
|
||
> > I kept saying to myself,
|
||
> > "OK, the good part of the trip should be coming soon..." but it
|
||
> > never did!
|
||
|
||
> This is normal.. You had well what is the robo analogue of a bad trip.
|
||
> On Robo if you have a bad trip, it doesn't really do anything bad, it
|
||
> just doesn't do anything. I find that how my trip is has alot to do with
|
||
> where I am and most IMPORTANTLY who I am with. People you don't like can
|
||
> cause your robo trip to go right down the drain. Next time your really
|
||
> bored try it again, with lots of people you like. A really good place is
|
||
> like at a coffeehouse or any other social place with good acoustic
|
||
> music. Happy roboing
|
||
|
||
My set and setting were fine. I was psyched and had set aside all
|
||
sorts of excellent music to listen to. I was among people I was very
|
||
comfortable with. I just don't think the drug mixed well with my body
|
||
chemistry. As evidence, it is now 48 hours since I first took it and I
|
||
STILL feel some effects of it behind my eyes. Let me remind the
|
||
readers that I only took between 3-4 oz.. That, from what I hear,
|
||
seems to be a rather small dose.
|
||
|
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Focusing my eyes is very tiring and I'm getting quite sick of this
|
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numbness I feel in my head. It's fading slowly but surely, though, so
|
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by tomorrow morning I'll probably be clear. I've never had any
|
||
problems with provenly safe psychedelics like acid and shrooms (well,
|
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I got sick of my stomach on shrooms once, but it was nothing major).
|
||
|
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Once again, I never felt particularly bad, just rather neutral.
|
||
Although, I can see how mixing the drug with pot might have improved
|
||
things. Now, I've simply had enough of these uninteresting sensations
|
||
and hope they go away soon!
|
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Anyone else have similar experiences with Robo?
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From: Todd A. Barnash <barnash@anatomy.med.ufl.edu>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Robo'ed for the first time last nite
|
||
Date: 11 Mar 1994 16:12:13 GMT
|
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Message-ID: <2lq58tINNdil@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
|
||
|
||
After reading, and printing out pages and pages of info on tripping from
|
||
Robitussin, I decided to try it last night. I bought two 4-ounce bottles
|
||
of the Robo Maximum Strength Cough (only active ingred= dextro
|
||
hydrobromide) for about seven dollars at a supermarket.
|
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I downed one bottle of the nasty stuff at about 6pm, afterwhich I smoked
|
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a good size bowl.
|
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Since I was quite stoned (and on new weed) I didn't know when the effects
|
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started kicking in, I downed another two ounces from the second bottle,
|
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and by 7 pm I was starting to feel quite weird.
|
||
|
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Lemme just say, first, that I am fairly well experienced with other
|
||
assorted psychoactives- I tried this out of curiousity since Robo is, of
|
||
course, cheap and plentiful.
|
||
|
||
By 7:15 or so my eyes felt very heavy and, as for the rest of the night,
|
||
wouldn't focus in once place for very long... So, as any good tripper
|
||
will do, I turned off the lights :-)
|
||
I wasn't getting much in the way of hallucinations at that time anyway.
|
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Music sounded "thin and boring" compared to LSD or Psilocybin, and I
|
||
started becoming too disoriented and unbalanced to walk anywhere. I
|
||
closed my eyes for a while and enjoyed the show- this stuff gave a big
|
||
coloful boost to my imagination, and had somewhat the same
|
||
"mind-tripping" effects other psychoacts. give.
|
||
|
||
I felt a bit of stomach discomfort, which is understandable looking back
|
||
on how much of it I drank. I ended up just smoking some more green and
|
||
trying to sleep it off. All in all, it was a pretty heavy buzz, but not
|
||
very entertaining and I doubt I would do it again.
|
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|
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|
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|
||
From: jgwacker@iastate.edu (Jay)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Re: Robo Testimonial
|
||
Date: 20 Feb 1994 15:40:48 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2k80a0$pi9@news.iastate.edu>
|
||
|
||
[quoted text deleted -cak]
|
||
|
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I tried my first robodose this friday. I went up to walmarts and bought 8oz
|
||
of Vicks 44. I was planning on doing it with a friend, but right after I had
|
||
downed about 2oz(of the 4 that I did) a girl called and asked me on a date.
|
||
Well, I asked my friend that I was dosing with if it would be alright if I
|
||
ditched him. He said it was fine(knowing that I don't get too many dates,
|
||
especially good looking ones). I finished off the other 2 oz, then I met her
|
||
at a smoking hall. We sat around and talked awhile, I told her that I was
|
||
drugged and that I may not be completely coherent throughout the night ;) We
|
||
couldn't find a movie to watch, so we went back to my place(she was driving,
|
||
obviously) and talked a bit more. I was just begining to feel the effects when
|
||
we were talking at my house. (The initial were having trouble walking, and a
|
||
slight distortion in background noise) During when we talked, I had "Indiffence"
|
||
by Pearl Jam on... the music felt great, it just ran through my body. My whole
|
||
body and mind felt as if they were new, like I was five years old again. I
|
||
actually managed to hold a decent conversation. I went to put in The Wall (movie)
|
||
by Pink Floyd. We sat back on my bed and watched it, this is when the visual
|
||
distortions began to come on. At first there were slight trails, then there
|
||
were waves, like the fabric of the universe was flowing. At about "Another
|
||
Brick in the Wall part 3" I couldn't get both my eyes in sync, one looked
|
||
normal, the other was rotated off at 45'. By the end of The Wall, the effects
|
||
were lessening, and I was still feeling good, no hard come down. She took me to
|
||
get my car(I felt as if I could drive now), and we went back to her place. We
|
||
sat down on her bed and talked for another 4 hours. A really good date, and a
|
||
very good trip. In the morning, I felt fresh, a little tired because of only
|
||
getting 3 hours of sleep, but no cotton mouth, no hang over.
|
||
Unfortunately, my friend, who I ditched :(, went to a party and started
|
||
puking. But he understood(although he says he'll never robodose again ;) I
|
||
would recommend robodosing to anyone who can hold down the syrup...I think it
|
||
was the best trip in my life.
|
||
|
||
jay
|
||
jgwacker@iastate.edu
|
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|
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|
||
Message-ID: <065314Z22031994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an34800@anon.penet.fi
|
||
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 06:49:58 UTC
|
||
Subject: Drixoral/dextromethorphane
|
||
|
||
Just thought I'd add another data point in our quest for the ultimate over-
|
||
the-counter hallucinogen -- dextromethorphane, found in Robitussin DM,
|
||
Drixoral, etc.
|
||
|
||
First off, stay away from anything that combines dextromethorphane with
|
||
guaifenisin -- guaifenisin, intended to clear your lungs, will give your
|
||
horrible diarrhea at the psychoactive dosage level of dextromethorphane.
|
||
I used Drixoral Liquid Caps, each of which is supposed to have 30mg of
|
||
dextromethorphane, and I took a dose of 150mg, which, according to reports
|
||
here on alt.drugs, is half the psychoactive dose of 300mg.
|
||
|
||
I started feeling the effects of the liquid caps about 30 minutes after taking
|
||
them, indicating that the liquid was released faster that I would have thought.
|
||
I noticed that I had trouble balancing -- walking caused a little vertigo.
|
||
Also, I had a hard time unclenching my jaw, and when I wasn't thinking about it,
|
||
my teeth would chatter as if I was cold. I did not notice any hallucinations,
|
||
but I did notice some interesting perspective changes. Just when I thought
|
||
that I had taken too low a dose for interesting visuals and I decided to go
|
||
to bed, as soon as I closed my eyes I noticed that rather than seeing the
|
||
normal random patterns of closed eyelids, that out of the darkness were
|
||
forming kaleidescopic patterns, interlocking and turning, like patterns on
|
||
a turkish prayer rug. If I concentrated on visualizing something, it would
|
||
spring into being behind my eyelids in full color -- really very startling.
|
||
|
||
Dextromethorphane seems to interfere with REM sleep, so that come morning, I was still tired, and I ended up going back to sleep for another 8 hours. I would
|
||
say that dextromethorphane, like many hallucinogens, is best used when you have
|
||
some free time to recover.
|
||
|
||
So, that was my experience with 150mg -- let's hear some more experiences
|
||
and stay away from guaifenisin!
|
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|
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|
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From: sirdeaths@aol.com (SirDeath S)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: My first Dextromethorphan experience
|
||
Date: 29 Mar 1994 18:27:02 -0500
|
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Message-ID: <2nadg6$g83@search01.news.aol.com>
|
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|
||
Got ahold of 2 4-oz bottles of "Father John's Medicine"--10mg DXM per
|
||
5ml "dose" = 236mg per bottle. It took me nearly 10 minutes to down
|
||
the first bottle--it was a thick black sludge that was supposed to be
|
||
licorice but smelled (&tasted) much like FlyNap (that stuff at school
|
||
that we use to temporarily knock out fruit-flies). Needless to say,
|
||
I was already feeling nauseous and decided against trying to consume
|
||
the second bottle. By about 45 minutes after consuming the liquid,
|
||
I began to notice some unusual effects... the radio (I was listening
|
||
to a talk show) began making wierd almost flange-like effects... I
|
||
stuttered somewhat when I tried to speak (I do not normally have this
|
||
problem).
|
||
|
||
About an hour into this, I switched the radio over to an REM CD. The music was
|
||
more beautiful than I have ever heard it before--each note
|
||
was intense and vibrant. I stood up and discovered a floating, some-
|
||
what euphoric feeling with a little cloudiness of thought. These
|
||
effects seem to be virtually identical to that of Vicodin (sp?), a
|
||
narcotic painkiller I had had prescribed for me following outpatient
|
||
ear surgery last spring.
|
||
|
||
The nausea became extremely intense over the next several minutes, and
|
||
I finally began vomiting violently into my trash can--however, almost
|
||
IMMEDIATELY afterwards, I felt much, much better. My head felt big
|
||
and swollen (not at all unpleasant, however) and the euphoria felt when
|
||
walking around was exponentially more intense. Co-ordination seemed
|
||
to be impaired--I tried playing "Tetris" on my computer only to find
|
||
it impossible to think and act properly. I definately would not want
|
||
to drive in this condition.
|
||
|
||
After about four and a half hours, I began to come down gradually.
|
||
No "crash" at all--I didn't even fall asleep (as I do with almost
|
||
every other substance I've tried). By about six and a half hours, I
|
||
was feeling no effects whatsoever and was able to continue with the
|
||
rest of my day.
|
||
|
||
In short, I would try DXM again (just not in that vile toxic waste
|
||
form). I'd recommend taking an meclizine antiemetic (e.g. Bonine or
|
||
Dramamine II)--NOT, however, a dimenhydrinate one (e.g. Dramamine) as
|
||
this causes drowsiness--to control the nausea.
|
||
|
||
@@@@@
|
||
@ @ @ Sir Death
|
||
@ @ @ Peace ---------
|
||
@ @ @ <sirdeaths@aol.com>
|
||
@ @@@ @ Love aka Roger Plyer
|
||
@ @ @ @ @ 3813 Windber Blvd
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
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|
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|
||
Message-ID: <115303Z30031994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an34800@anon.penet.fi
|
||
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 11:47:16 UTC
|
||
Subject: more DXM datapoints
|
||
|
||
Well, after reading the DXM FAQ posted here (thanks for the very informative
|
||
FAQ, BTW), I have to conclude that I am one of those people who don't have
|
||
the DXM-processing enzyme on my liver and that is the reason I find DXM
|
||
unpleasant enough to stop taking.
|
||
|
||
In my last DXM experiment, I took 240 mg of DXM in the form of 8 Drixoral
|
||
liquid-caps. I was almost immediately (within 30 minutes) so sleepy that
|
||
it was hard to stay awake for the rather mild hallucinogenic effects. Finally
|
||
I went to sleep.
|
||
|
||
For the next four days, I had the following symptoms:
|
||
- muscle twitches, especially in the hands and jaw muscles, enough to
|
||
make my teeth chatter uncontrollably
|
||
|
||
- difficulty with urination and orgasm -- almost like the prostate was
|
||
locked up (I have no history of prostate problems -- I'm 29)
|
||
|
||
- bouts of extreme sleepiness throughout the day, despite 8 hours of sleep
|
||
|
||
Obviously, DXM affects everyone differently, but I had a bad enough trip so
|
||
that I told my brother not to try it.
|
||
|
||
DXM -- your mileage may vary!!!
|
||
|
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From: sirdeaths@aol.com (SirDeath S)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Re: My first Dextromethorphan experience
|
||
Date: 31 Mar 1994 10:08:02 -0500
|
||
Message-ID: <2nep0i$hnf@search01.news.aol.com>
|
||
|
||
In article <CnIJt2.Ixz@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
|
||
(William E. White ) writes:
|
||
|
||
>>Did you make sure there were no active ingredients listed other than
|
||
>>DXM? My guess is that there was guaifenesin in the syrup. At high
|
||
>>dosages it is strongly emetic.
|
||
|
||
No--worse than that. I discovered that among the "inactive ingredients" was
|
||
...ugh... CASTOR OIL! Blarg!
|
||
|
||
>>Meclizine can, in fact, cause drowsiness
|
||
|
||
Although it's sold as a "non-drowsy" formula? I know Dimenhydrinate puts me
|
||
out quick but have never experienced the slightest effect from Meclizine.
|
||
|
||
>>DXM by itself shouldn't cause nausea
|
||
|
||
Probably right. I'm blaming the castor oil.
|
||
|
||
Thanx for the help--got ahold of some Robo & will be trying that later today.
|
||
|
||
@@@@@
|
||
@ @ @ Sir Death
|
||
@ @ @ Peace ---------
|
||
@ @ @ <sirdeaths@aol.com>
|
||
@ @@@ @ Love aka Roger Plyer
|
||
@ @ @ @ @ 3813 Windber Blvd
|
||
@@ @ @@ Spam Palm Harbor, FL 34685-1133
|
||
@ @ @ tel. 813/787-2741
|
||
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|
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|
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|
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|
||
Message-ID: <185309Z31031994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an50600@anon.penet.fi (Mr. B)
|
||
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:47:21 UTC
|
||
Subject: more DXM datapoints
|
||
|
||
[quoted text deleted -cak]
|
||
|
||
My experience with Robo wasn't quite as bad, but remarkably similar.
|
||
|
||
I took a similar size dose my first try (about 3.5 oz. of a generic
|
||
equivalent to Robo extra strength cough). I didn't fall asleep
|
||
immediately, and was able to enjoy the "peak" (which I found rather
|
||
unremarkable, as I stated in a previous post now in the DXM FAQ). But,
|
||
I too suffered after-effects for the next four days.
|
||
|
||
My pupils were severely dialated for over 24 hours after ingestion, so
|
||
my experiences were clearly not entirely psychological.
|
||
|
||
I had no muscle twitches, but I had this really annoying tightness in
|
||
the muscles in my head which made it difficult to concentrate. I also
|
||
had severe hot-flashes around 3 days after ingestion which were really
|
||
bizarre and a bit frightening. Sex was entirely out of the question,
|
||
but that could have been partially due to anxiety since I thought I
|
||
had broken my brain.
|
||
|
||
To those trying DXM for the first time, I'd recommend trying a small
|
||
amount (< 2 oz.) to make sure you aren't one of us weirdo's without
|
||
that enzyme required to break it down. That, or be prepared to waste
|
||
of about 3-4 days to very annoying after-effects. Keep in mind I've
|
||
had no trouble with most other common psychedelic drugs--I've never
|
||
even had a bad trip despite multiple "experiences".
|
||
|
||
Now that I know I'm not the only one with this problem, I'd like to
|
||
get this information added to the DXM FAQ so that others may be spared
|
||
this experience.
|
||
|
||
Mr. B
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|
||
From: david_mcintire@cts.qms.com (David McIntyre)
|
||
Subject: Re: ROBO!!!!!
|
||
Message-ID: <david_mcintire.275.0158DAED@cts.qms.com>
|
||
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 17:50:34 CST
|
||
|
||
In article <quadra.764562645@pv0555.vincent.iastate.edu> quadra@iastate.edu (Steven E. Hoiberg) writes:
|
||
>>Try the Drixoral Cough Caps. 30mg DXM/cap, and nothing else. RATHER
|
||
>>effective. Remind me to tell you about it some day.
|
||
>>--
|
||
|
||
>NO NEED TO WAIT!
|
||
>Tell us now. =)
|
||
|
||
I had to wait until I could compose my thoughts.
|
||
You asked for it...
|
||
I have in the past toyed around with 4-6oz of liquid Tussin, Robo, etc with
|
||
and without guaifenesin (sp?). My experiences were interesting and fun, but
|
||
nothing as moving as taking two boxes of 10 Drixoral Cough Caps. Last Friday,
|
||
I decided to go for broke and take 2 boxes.
|
||
I started my journey about 8pm. Finished the pills in a span of about 30
|
||
minutes. About 30-45 minutes later, I started feeling the familiar effects of
|
||
drowsiness. I decided that it would be best to get out and do something
|
||
before I fell asleep and wasted my time. It was about 9:00, so I went to my
|
||
favorite alternative club where there was an awesome "mind candy" band called
|
||
Mindseye playing. There weren't more than 20 people in the club including the
|
||
two bands that were playing. I just kicked back in a booth, closed my eyes,
|
||
and went on an internal trip that lasted at least 45 minutes, although it felt
|
||
like hours. I had a sensation of moving into a higher realm of thought. I
|
||
was so focused on the music that it became a part of my consciousness and my
|
||
being. Openeing my eyes just became a letdown because it reminded me that I
|
||
was in reality. :) So I just closed them again and enjoyed the phosphenes
|
||
that were running rampant through my brain. The only part I didn't like was
|
||
the feeling of being in a Doom game without the monsters. I felt like I was
|
||
running through the corridors and riding the elevators. Oh, well. Nobody
|
||
promised that it would be COMPLETELY enjoyable. Anyway, after the set, I went
|
||
to the bar to order a Miller Lite. The barkeep said that they didn't have
|
||
Miller Lite. I asked for Coors Light. He said he didn't have Coors Light.
|
||
[blank stare with severely dilated pupils] "What light beers do you have?"
|
||
"Lite." "Lite?" "Lite." "Lemme have that, then" "$1.50" ("Hey, great
|
||
price", I thought) It was Miller Lite. Oh, well. It felt like I was arguing
|
||
for 30 minutes. Gawd, I hate interacting with people in that condition. I
|
||
staggered back to my booth (at least it FELT like staggering ... it felt
|
||
REALLY weird to walk) and sipped my beer while watching the band take down
|
||
their equipment. They looked like a bunch of worker bees from my perspective,
|
||
and is was really interesting to watch. Drinking was an unusual experience,
|
||
too. It was like the first time I had ever drunk anything. All my movements
|
||
were very slow, methodical, and calculated. After I finished my beer, I went
|
||
down to a techno club I had been meaning to visit. It was about midnight.
|
||
I know that this is a big lapse in time. I guess I wasted 2 1/2 hours in that
|
||
bar listeneing to the jukebox and watching the band. It was only 4
|
||
blocks, but the way my legs were moving, it felt like I was walking
|
||
stiff-legged the whole way. Fortunately, it was a slow night on my city's
|
||
version of Bourbon St., and I only passed about 5 people on the way. The
|
||
doorman was the next big hurdle. Actually, I managed to keep myself fairly
|
||
composed. He warned me that it was kinda slow, and I went into a repeat of
|
||
the beer discussion. "Slow?" "Slow." "Okay." (trying to avoid giving myself
|
||
away, even though my pupils filled my eyeballs) I handed him the two bucks he
|
||
asked for and walked in. I found an empty couch and plopped down. It was
|
||
heavily padded and had a low back. Perfect for slouching. The DJ was playing
|
||
a fantastic mix of techno and classic rock. As the night wore on, she was
|
||
playing almost constant techno. They have a light show that is really
|
||
something to be seen. The dance floor is surrounded by mirrors that reflect
|
||
the blue lights from the bar and make it look like a cityscape from the year
|
||
2020. VERY impressive in my condition. The only times I got up were to go to
|
||
the john twice and to the bar once for water. Walking got stranger and
|
||
stranger. I think I was having trouble keeping my balance, but I don't
|
||
remember staggering. The worst part was the feeling that I was choking on my
|
||
uvula. My mouth felt dry, and water wasn't helping. It must have been the
|
||
anaesthetic effects of DXM. I stayed there for two hours in the same spot
|
||
only moving the three times I mentioned. I was still not bored, but I figured
|
||
that since it was 2am, it was about time to get home. This may have been a
|
||
mistake. The streetlights had started tracing, and the blinking lights were
|
||
playing hell on my perception. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have
|
||
driven home, but I was broke, so a cab was out of the question, and there was
|
||
no way I could have sobered up. I didn't feel drunk. It just felt like all
|
||
my surroundings were foreign. I payed extra-close attention to my driving,
|
||
but still nearly jumped out of my skin at the sight of police. I got home in
|
||
one piece and fell asleep to the mellow sounds of Pink Floyd's Ummagumma disc
|
||
2. I woke up around 9:30am, fully alert. Checked my eyes. Fully dilated.
|
||
Made an excuse to get out of the house, wearing shades. Went to see a movie
|
||
with a friend, which was pretty fun. I was still feeling a bit weird. The
|
||
dark theater helped me relax. Got out of the movie and went home. My eyes
|
||
were normal by this time, although I still felt a little strange. That
|
||
feeling lasted until about 7pm. So the brunt of the trip laster about 12
|
||
hours and the after-effects lasted another 11. WOW!
|
||
Will I try this again? Yes. Would I suggest that somebody else try this?
|
||
Yes. What will I do next time? Take 3 boxes and drink more beer. I heard it
|
||
is very synergistic. I did not see the colored blobs that people refer to,
|
||
unless the light show was this effect, and I just didn't notice. :) Anyway, I
|
||
had no nausea or other ill effects. I have sworn off the liquid stuff,
|
||
because it's too hard to get down.
|
||
--
|
||
david_mcintire@ 2 Opinions expressed 2 More fun than I
|
||
cts.qms.com 3 are entirely my own 3 should be having
|
||
fnordfnordfnordfnordfnordfnordfnordfnordfnordfnordfnord
|
||
--
|
||
PGP 2.3a key available by finger
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Message-ID: <165303Z11041994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an69985@anon.penet.fi
|
||
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:49:41 UTC
|
||
Subject: DXM fails.... :(
|
||
|
||
So what's the deal?
|
||
|
||
Subject 1 ingested 3 30mg caplets, followed in two hours, by 2 more,
|
||
followed in two more hours with 2 more... no perceptible results, or
|
||
results so mild they might well have been placebo.
|
||
|
||
Subject 2 ingested 5 30mg caps, followed four hours later with 2 more, same
|
||
effect as S1.
|
||
|
||
The next day, S2, a determined experimentor, broke 6 caps into a swallow of
|
||
juice (tastes awful :) and still got nothing.
|
||
|
||
Caps were from two seperate boxes of Drixoral cough caps, no other
|
||
ingredients besides DXM-hbr.....no other drugs of any kind were present in
|
||
the system....
|
||
|
||
Is there some magic "open-sesame" thing you gotta do with this stuff? What
|
||
are the odds that two people, non-blood relations, would both have this
|
||
Citochrome - 450 enzyme or whatever?
|
||
|
||
Perhaps if the dose were doubled to more like 300mg instead of the 120-150
|
||
that seemed such a prudent figure given the DXM FAQ info...? (it was
|
||
deemed desirable to avoid the second stage of the experience as it sounded
|
||
from the descriptions far less pleasurable than the lo-dose effects...)
|
||
|
||
Does the syrup work better than the caps?
|
||
|
||
Or is this all a great big hoax put on by the DEA to lure us all out of the
|
||
woodwork and down to the drugstore?
|
||
|
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Help please....it sounds real fun, if only it got you high :)
|
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|
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- S1, S2
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|
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|
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From: lamontg@u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Re: DXM fails.... :(
|
||
Date: 11 Apr 1994 21:08:15 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2oce7v$gtg@news.u.washington.edu>
|
||
|
||
an69985@anon.penet.fi writes:
|
||
>Perhaps if the dose were doubled to more like 300mg instead of the 120-150
|
||
>that seemed such a prudent figure given the DXM FAQ info...? (it was
|
||
>deemed desirable to avoid the second stage of the experience as it sounded
|
||
>from the descriptions far less pleasurable than the lo-dose effects...)
|
||
|
||
try taking at least ten+ of the pills at once -- be sure you're not
|
||
getting anything besides DXM. That should give you over 300mg which
|
||
should be psychoactive.
|
||
|
||
>Or is this all a great big hoax put on by the DEA to lure us all out of the
|
||
>woodwork and down to the drugstore?
|
||
|
||
Its no hoax -- if you don't get off at all from 300-400mg you've got a bizzare
|
||
metabolism.
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
Lamont Granquist (lamontg@u.washington.edu)
|
||
The Complete X-Generation Manifesto: We hereby resolve that attempts by older
|
||
generations to blindly label and categorize things in an attempt to fit them
|
||
into their defective world-view shall be condemned. The End.
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: cs125410@diff.csc.lsu.edu (CRAIG ALLEN JOHNSTON)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: My DXM experience, question...
|
||
Date: 11 Apr 1994 17:58:53 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2oc34t$1p8u@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
|
||
|
||
Well, I got around to doing this DXM thing this weekend. I drank a bit less
|
||
than one third of an 8 oz bottle of Robo max. strength (whichever particular
|
||
flavor has only DXM) so I estimate in the neighborhood of 220 mg of DXM.
|
||
Now, I have done a lot of LSD in the past, and none of these weenie doses
|
||
either...so I figured this would be pretty wimpy at the dosage I took
|
||
(would have taken more, but I'm on paxil, an MAO inhibitor...wanted to
|
||
test the waters..) Anyway, I was pretty much wrong. BTW I weigh about
|
||
160 lbs.. anyways, it took longer than I thought to really come on--don't
|
||
have an exact figure but I might say 2 hours to peak?
|
||
|
||
It's a strange drug. In some ways, I felt totally normal. Speaking
|
||
normally was quite easy. Moving around and performing feats of dexterity,
|
||
however, was not. In fact, the only problem with speaking felt like a
|
||
lack of coordination of my mouth. Walking, after sitting down for 2 hours
|
||
for dinner at a restaurant, was really bizarre. Could not feel myself
|
||
touching the ground, felt certain I was walking funny and would be
|
||
spotted--felt like I was taking baby steps. Vision was blurred. Food
|
||
was totally nauseating--don't even think about it.
|
||
|
||
Music was interesting, but perhaps a bit "flat."
|
||
|
||
A very hard to describe trip, at least hard to describe after one shot--
|
||
don't know what was characteristic and what was that one trip.
|
||
|
||
Don't underestimate this drug.
|
||
|
||
Also--whatever the cost, the pill for is probably worth it. I did not
|
||
think I would have so much trouble getting the shit down. I mixed it
|
||
with OJ, even, and it was totally horrible.
|
||
|
||
My question: anybody have sex on it yet? I was planning on it, but was
|
||
a bit nauseated from the food I ate. (I believe) Worth doing?
|
||
|
||
another question: anyone mix pot with this yet? LSD? effects? if not,
|
||
any reasons not to?
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: bdesp@wpi.edu (B. Despres)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Re: dextromethorphane
|
||
Date: 3 Apr 1994 08:49:57 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2nlvvl$86h@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
|
||
|
||
|
||
: Well, Ben, my friend, its a rather largish trip.
|
||
: 6 or 8 ounces of robo, if your body can take it (i.e. not puke or itch or
|
||
: whatever these folks say happens) is one of the most exciting and
|
||
: sensual trips i know of, but i usually feel like i can't really go
|
||
: anywhere, which is too bad, sometimes.
|
||
|
||
sorry abouyt not quoting, but i can't be bopthered.
|
||
well, i'm currently on the tail enbd of a 250 mg dose of
|
||
dxm, and fuck i feel *GOOD*.
|
||
i can't imagine it being possible to have a bad trip on this shit.
|
||
oh, man, i feel so good.
|
||
well, if i can get this posted withougth screwing up roayally i will ta
|
||
leastr remewmber it when i read this, and probably regret it...
|
||
it's neat... ity's like being in a rpoom, with no lightsa except a whole
|
||
bunch of tv's, and each tv is a different sensory input, and i have a few
|
||
outputs toom but i can only play with ione atta time. so i cant think vetry
|
||
well. oh, plese flame me, i am too happy to care. having tried this, i would
|
||
definately reccomend it.
|
||
i walked through the woods for 2 hours with a freibnd who aslo tried
|
||
dxm for the first time... we had such fun, oh damn i can't see the keyboard
|
||
anymore am i typing still? oh, i can see the screen so i am.
|
||
i am going away. TRY DXM, IT'S FUN.
|
||
|
||
- ben (i think???)
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: johannsn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Les Claypool is God)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Robo fun
|
||
Date: 18 Apr 1994 05:34:52 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2ot65s$cd1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
|
||
|
||
I robo-ed for the first time in months this weekend. Did more than I ever
|
||
had before, here's the story:
|
||
|
||
8:15 pm: Friend and I each take 5 Robitussin cough caps, and rinse them
|
||
down with 4 oz of Robo DM syrup. Taste is worse than I remember. Wrigley
|
||
Spearmint really helps kill the taste.
|
||
|
||
8:30ish: begin feally a little funky. Stomach is a little bit
|
||
uncomfortable. Friend says she feels a little nauseous also. We ate
|
||
before hand, so the stomach discomfort was not as bad as before.
|
||
|
||
8:45ish: Very light headed. Tracers begin showing up on just about
|
||
everything. We get to another friends house, and sit down to watch tv.
|
||
|
||
9:00 : Seriously feeling effect. Head spinning slighty, not bad.
|
||
Stomach discomfort gone. Limbs feel unconnected to body. I notice that I
|
||
have been watching tv for 15 minutes, and have no idea what I am watching.
|
||
TV sound is turned off and stereo is truned on. I find it very hard to
|
||
concentrate on anything for more than about a second. Music, which I
|
||
normally get into, I can't really listen to. Repeated attemps at
|
||
conversation fail because I can't remember what I am saying as I say it.
|
||
total inability to grasp concept of time. A friend's sentence take
|
||
forever to finsh, and I completely forget what is said as soon as he is done.
|
||
When I close my eyes, all sorts of incredible hallucinations kick in.
|
||
When my eyes are open, I see everything as normal, but have NO idea what
|
||
I'm looking at.
|
||
|
||
10:30ish Friend gets pizza. I am totally unable to eat. Wierd, seeing
|
||
as how often I get the munchies. I can no longer move my head without
|
||
totally losing contact with reality. As long as I am talking, I'm fine.
|
||
Time flies and crawls at the same time. Truely wierd.
|
||
|
||
Evening progresses until I have to leave(couldn't take beeing on that
|
||
couch any longer)
|
||
|
||
Midnight: Go back to friends house. Have to catch a ride because I am
|
||
TOTALLY unable to operate an automobile, assuming I had driven in the
|
||
first place. Lye down on floor. Carpet, which is normally uncomfortable,
|
||
is quite nice right now. Close my eyes, and trip like a motherfucker.
|
||
All sorts of weird shit flies through my head. It is suddenly half an
|
||
hour later. I decide(for some stupid reason) that I need to walk home
|
||
now. Normally about a mile, I can walk it in 15 minutes if I really take
|
||
my time. As I walk, I realize that I don't feel connected to my legs, I'm
|
||
just "floating" along, above the ground. I feel as if I'm going to fall
|
||
any minute, but never do. I make it home, and down the stairs into my
|
||
room. I make it into my bed, where I close my eyes, and trip out for
|
||
another three hours, when my phone rings, and I end up explaining how to
|
||
use Tlenet to one of my friends. After a rather lengthy conversation, I
|
||
slip into unconsciousness completely.
|
||
|
||
Next day: I am still totally out to lunch, and am still unable to grasp
|
||
time. Things just fly by unnoticed. Kinda cool, kinda strange. I like
|
||
it, but it better be gone by tommorow.
|
||
|
||
That's it. Any questions?
|
||
|
||
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
||
{ Cory Johannsen }{ "She turned me into a newt" }
|
||
{ Computer Science }{ ..Silence.. }
|
||
{ johannsn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu {} "I got better" }
|
||
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: jonriley@indirect.com (Jon Riley)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Dextromethorphan experience
|
||
Date: 2 Apr 1994 08:35:13 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2njao1$4fd@herald.indirect.com>
|
||
|
||
I tried posting this on Tuesday, but it does'nt seem to have
|
||
gotten out, so here it is again...
|
||
|
||
Well, after reading all the messages on experiences with cough syrup, I
|
||
decided to try it for myself. Last friday, a friend and I went down to
|
||
the local supermarket, read the ingredients on the back of the cough
|
||
medicine boxes, did some simple dosage math, and settled on a 20 pack of
|
||
Drixoral Cough Liquid caps. We took them at around 10:00 that night, and had
|
||
a pretty good time.
|
||
|
||
Here's a log of what happened. We were writing it as it happened while we
|
||
could.
|
||
|
||
|
||
10:03 Both: Took 300mg(10 capsules) each of Drixoral Cough Liquid Caps...
|
||
might have been a bit much for a first time try, but we were feeling
|
||
daring...(and we wanted it to be good) :)...
|
||
|
||
10:47 Both: Think we're starting to get a general 'nice' feeling
|
||
|
||
10:57 Jon: Colors seem to be getting brighter. Listening to Nirvana's
|
||
Bleach album, music seems kind of 'thin' but it's pretty easy to get into.
|
||
|
||
11:16 Jon: Colors realy bightening.
|
||
|
||
11:22 Jon: Gettin into it... Kurt does'nt seem to be having much fun
|
||
yet..
|
||
|
||
11:53 Both: Went outside to have a smoke and walk around.
|
||
|
||
12:07 Both: came back in, Jon: Things seemed to realy be setting in. I
|
||
first noticed it when I walked back up the stairs to come back into the
|
||
house. I felt very bouncy, as if I were going to keep floating up... I also
|
||
felt it when I stood up from a chair. Around this time I also started to
|
||
knotice things bouncing around a bit when I tried to fix my eyes on them.
|
||
|
||
12:20 I'm definately getting weird, Kurt still is'nt getting anything...
|
||
|
||
12:26 Turned off the lights and the monitor, stopped writing this log as
|
||
things happened. Listened to music in the dark and had a pretty good time
|
||
singing along. Now I popped in Nirvana's Nevermind. It was more melodic and
|
||
cooler to listen to. I thought the more psychedelic parts of the music would
|
||
be more stimulating, but it was realy basic song structure and melody that
|
||
got me going... Time started to get distorted. Could'nt keep my eyes from
|
||
wandering.
|
||
|
||
1:00(or so) Jon: Time getting realy distorted. Songs seem to last for
|
||
hours, still nothing realy for Kurt.. We just lied around and listened...
|
||
|
||
Things realy hit around 1:30... All I can say is that I was FUCKED *UP*!!!
|
||
My memory from then on is realy screwed up, but I remember realizing just
|
||
how fried I was when I found myself sitting up on the bed with my legs
|
||
shaking, and asking kurt if they were shaking. He told me to stop shaking
|
||
them (By now he seemed pretty fried too) and when I stopped (It was fairly
|
||
hard, I could'nt quite remember 'how' to). It felt weird stopping, so I
|
||
just let them shake (They stopped when I laid back down). Standing up was
|
||
hard and so was talking (although that didd'nt stop me). Just laying down,
|
||
talking and listening was actually quite enjoyable.
|
||
|
||
Things I noticed:
|
||
|
||
These things are DANGEROUS! I almost choked trying to swallow one of the
|
||
pills :) (Realy though, Make sure you have something to wash them down with)
|
||
|
||
We were VERY heavily stoned. I remember Kurt remarking 'This is what
|
||
retarded people must feel like' :). I just could'nt think straight at all...
|
||
|
||
I seemed to instantly verbalize most of my thoughts. According to
|
||
Kurt, I talked almost the whole time about absolutely nothing... I wonder
|
||
if I would have talked so much if there weren't anyone there with me...I found
|
||
myself contradicting myself often. "I want to try and go outside. No I
|
||
don't." I also said completely senseless things He would ask me a question
|
||
like "Do you want to try and stand up?" and I'd say something like "No,
|
||
because you'll try to kill me, and the windows can't handle that." Weird...
|
||
|
||
Part of our talking was telling each other all of our deepest darkest
|
||
secrets. I can only remember a few of the milder ones, but I know I told
|
||
him things about myself I would'nt tell ANYONE normally... Luckily our
|
||
memories of the experience are very bad, and many of the things we told
|
||
each other were absolute hogwash (I distincly remember "Hey man, I gotta
|
||
tell you something. I have sex with furniture" "That's ok man, I have sex
|
||
with guitars..."). The next day however, we both felt like a tremendous
|
||
weight had been taken off of our chest, and I think we're much better
|
||
friends.
|
||
|
||
I didn't seem to hallucinate as I thought I would. In fact, I realy
|
||
could'nt imagine anything visual at all. When I closed my eyes, I just saw
|
||
kind of a slightly more intense normal-closed-eye pattern, and I just felt
|
||
a general 'swirling' feeling in my mind. Kurt, however, reported seeing
|
||
Sonic the Hedgehog come running at him a few times. :)
|
||
|
||
I knoticed my body seemed generaly numbed, and severely in my mouth and face.
|
||
The numbing of my mouth added to the difficulty of talking, and I think I had
|
||
cottonmouth, but it might have just been the numbness.
|
||
|
||
At one point, for some reason I told Kurt to make sure all of his fingers
|
||
were still on because DXM can me bad for them. He started nervously
|
||
tugging on them to see if they were loose.I realy freaked him out :-).
|
||
|
||
Moving around and dancing was REALY cool. I was very disoriented and had a
|
||
bit of a hard time standing up, but I diddn't get motion sick or anything,
|
||
and moving felt great. Looking back, I'm glad nobody sober was watching me
|
||
dance, I pretty much made a fool of myself :)...
|
||
|
||
For part of the most intense part of the trip I seemed to be just 'Out of
|
||
my head', Like the rest of my mind just wandered off and left me to just
|
||
kinda lay there and stare at things. I also had a few 'waking up'
|
||
experiences. It's hard to explain, but it was if I were dreaming, and then
|
||
woke up to find things exactly as they were in the dream.
|
||
|
||
MIZ only got nauseous twice for short periods, and it was very mild.
|
||
|
||
Sometime around 4:00, Both of us decided to go so sleep (I wasnt realy
|
||
tired, it was a decision we just kinda made) No weird dreams or anything...
|
||
|
||
The next day, I didnt feel down after the trip, probably because I was
|
||
still feeling the effects quite a bit. My memory was'nt doing to good, I
|
||
felt mildly stoned, and I still got that funny feeling whenever I got up.
|
||
|
||
For the record, I'm only around 130 pounds, and Kurt is... Ehh.. I don't
|
||
know, but he's 6'2 and slightly overweight.
|
||
|
||
Overall, this was quite an enjoyable (and weird) experience, and I plan
|
||
on doing this again this weekend with maybe a few other friends, a higher
|
||
dose, and some more appropriate music (although as the trip realy got
|
||
intense, I realy just ignored the music).
|
||
At around 10 bucks for 20 capsules (30mg each) it's fairly
|
||
cheap (It would have been cheaper if I had been willing to down all that
|
||
nasty syrup), and from what I've seen so far, it seems to be legal.
|
||
|
||
Well, my fingers are tired, and so am I, so I guess I'll stop now :)
|
||
It should have only Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide
|
||
(and maybe a little alchohol) as an active ingredient). Just make sure
|
||
you don't have anything too important to do the day afterwards, you'll still
|
||
feel it the next day, and might not sleep very well.
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: LADEN@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
|
||
Subject: Robo sucks!
|
||
Message-ID: <16FA1A852.LADEN@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
|
||
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 11:58:09 EDT
|
||
|
||
It sucks, dudes. Me and a friend, we got Drixoral Cough Caps last night.
|
||
I did 390mg, he did 450mg. If you like getting whacked out of your brain,
|
||
then maybe try this, but it's too intense and wierd for me (and my friend,
|
||
who's done LSD and shrooms.) Some parts were fun, actually, but too much of
|
||
it wasn't.
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: karl.hiller@cccbbs.cincinnati.oh.us (Karl Hiller)
|
||
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
|
||
Subject: Robo II: The Quickening
|
||
Message-ID: <48605.148.uupcb@cccbbs.cincinnati.oh.us>
|
||
Date: 24 Apr 94 05:16:00 GMT
|
||
|
||
There sure is a lot of interest in dextromethorphan on this conference
|
||
all of a sudden... Is this a new thing or does it come around on a
|
||
regular basis?
|
||
|
||
Anyway, I thought I'd give it a whirl. Tried it twice, around 350 mg
|
||
per dose, the first time by itself and the second time with a number of
|
||
good solid bong hits. (I managed to find Drixoral gel-caps the second
|
||
time, which made it much much easier to get down.)
|
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The first time, I felt seriously drunk. My body felt light, movement
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was effortless, and I had a hard time concentrating on anything. On the
|
||
other hand, I remained lucid enough to play a game of Diplomacy with my
|
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friends (although the French were acting sort of erratically that night
|
||
:) My hands got red and puffy, and at one point my scalp itched
|
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intensely, leading me into a strangely satisfying prolonged scratching
|
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session. I experienced that sort of tingly stomach sensation that
|
||
usually heralds an oncoming acid trip, and this feeling lingered for
|
||
about two days. There was no hangover, but I still felt sort of buzzed
|
||
the next day - not unpleasant, but disorienting.
|
||
The second time, I got really, really dumb. I could watch TV or listen
|
||
to someone talking to me for several minutes and not be able to recall a
|
||
single thing. I had some trippy visuals - Joe Bob Briggs became
|
||
three-dimensional (on TV), and then everything in the room became
|
||
extremely three-dimensional (moreso than usual). There was also some
|
||
wavering and crawling of the stucco patterns on the ceiling, but I
|
||
didn't notice much in the way of visuals later in the trip. Hell, I
|
||
didn't notice much of _anything_ later in the trip. I was conscious,
|
||
but not really aware. Seriously meaningful thoughts churned up inside
|
||
me like undercurrents in an underground ocean, but my verbal processing
|
||
ability was so disabled that I couldn't put them into words or utter
|
||
them. This inability to put words to thoughts was the most disturbing
|
||
aspect of the trip - without words, I couldn't really understand what I
|
||
was examining mentally, but just "look" at it and wonder. I did manage
|
||
to get across to my friend that I wondered whether really dumb people
|
||
feel like this all the time (not unlike wondering whether schizophrenics
|
||
or autistic people feel like people on acid a lot of the time). He
|
||
basically agreed. I eventually drifted off to sleep, and if I dreamed I
|
||
don't remember it. The weird stomach feeling lasted about three days
|
||
this time. I'm not entirely sure (a week later) that I've fully
|
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recovered.
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My opinion? Interesting, but not a lot of fun. If you like getting
|
||
very stupid and lying around, this might be your cup of tea. I
|
||
personally don't like being so incapacitated, especially mentally. Even
|
||
very drunk people have more mental wherewithal than I did the second
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time (the pot probably played a big role here). I don't know if I'll do
|
||
the scientifically logical next step and try 750 mg before reaching a
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final conclusion or not, but I think I've been and done and don't need
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to go back.
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And of course, Your Mileage May Vary.
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Karl Hiller
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karl.hiller@cccbbs.cincinnati.oh.us
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
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From: pcerra@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Paul Cerra)
|
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Subject: Re: Robo sucks!
|
||
Message-ID: <1994Apr24.164017.14207@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
|
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Date: Sun, 24 Apr 94 16:40:17 GMT
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|
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[quoted text deleted -cak]
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|
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I tried it for the first time with a friend just recently. First off, the
|
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Cough Caps sound like a good idea... the Vicks we ingested was absolutely
|
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vile. I'd sooner drink essence o' shrooms. As such, I was only able to
|
||
consume about 180mg (but I've got under 140lbs of body weight, so I
|
||
considered it a 'decent' low-dose). It was a peculiar high, sort of a
|
||
cross between alcohol and a psychedelic. I experienced nearly everything
|
||
the faq said I would: altered aural perception (big deal), loss of
|
||
coordination, and a desire to move about as much as possible. Dancing
|
||
around was great fun. My speech was affected; I kept repeating parts of
|
||
my sentences.
|
||
|
||
One interesting aspect: We took the junk at about 3:00 pm. Somewhere around
|
||
8:00 or so, I noticed that my pupils were dilated somewhat. I checked again
|
||
about an hour later and they were completely dilated. The faq mentioned
|
||
nothing about this (or did it? Did I miss it?) and so I was intrigued, but
|
||
short of a few trails, I noticed no hallucinations. That is, of course,
|
||
until I tried to get to sleep at about 11:00 that night. I tossed and turned
|
||
for awhile until I grew tired of fighting it and I turned on the light. And
|
||
I was frying! (for lack of a better word). No, not full-blown, but I had
|
||
definite movement and the curtains were breathing deeply. Has anyone else
|
||
experienced this sort of thing? Of course, we did smoke some grass while we
|
||
were on the stuff, so that might have contributed...
|
||
|
||
I guess I'll have to dry a "high-dosage" before I can say I'm done with
|
||
the stuff, but it's not really that great of a high (my opinion, folks).
|
||
If you want hearing enchancement, you can smoke grass or take piracetam (sp?).
|
||
Drink some wine and your coordination will be as bad as mine was. Plus, the
|
||
wine tastes a heck of a lot better than the syrup does! Keep drinking and
|
||
soon your speech will be affected, too.
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
Paul Cerra
|
||
pcerra@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu
|
||
"This space left intentionally blank."
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: smccullo@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (BiPolar Caffiend)
|
||
Subject: Re: Robo sucks!(kind of)
|
||
Message-ID: <1994Apr26.202129.131148@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
|
||
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 20:21:29 GMT
|
||
|
||
Well, this might not be real interesting, but here is my story of DXM.
|
||
I got a 10 pack of Vicks 44 capsules(30mg DXM, 60 mg pseudoephedrine)
|
||
and started taking them at 6:00 P.M. I took one every 6 minutes for an
|
||
hour. Used pepsi to help them go down. After realizing that 300 mg was
|
||
the minimum dosage for effects, I decided to go buy another pack of ten,
|
||
which was downed in much the same fashion from 7:00 to 8:00. So that was
|
||
600 mg of DXM in two hours spread out evenly.
|
||
|
||
I started feeling nauseas and noticed that I kept dropping
|
||
things!!! %^) I decided to take a bath because I was sore from V-Ball
|
||
earlier in the day. The water seemed very hot and I was feeling slightly
|
||
"spaced" so I rinsed with a cool shower and got dressed. I had Floyd,
|
||
Mr. Bungle and some other cool stuff in the cd player so decided to just
|
||
lie down and enjoy. I was tired and basically cat napped until four the
|
||
next morning. The pseudoephedrine definitely kept me up, and the nausea
|
||
never really went away, but did abate to a great extent. Anytime I
|
||
tried to walk was met with dizziness and a lot of stumbling. I finally
|
||
slept from 4:00A.M. until 6:30 which is when I got up and got ready for
|
||
school. Most of the day was the same "spaced" and generally out of it
|
||
feeling and more then one person used the word "spent" to describe my
|
||
physical condition.
|
||
|
||
Although I wouldn't describe the experience as extremely
|
||
unpleasant, the nausea was definitely a downer and I wish it could be
|
||
avoided. On looking back, I realize that I was hallucinating somewhat,
|
||
with the trim around the upper edge of my room becoming tilted and one
|
||
of the Dolphin posters being something other than a dolphin(it reminded
|
||
me of my shirt) The poster had a very weird 3d effect to it. What I mean
|
||
is that the edge of the poster seemed to be coming out of the wall. I
|
||
also feel that the sleepiness caused by the V-Ball mixed with the
|
||
restlessness of the pseudoephidrine didn't help. I am 5-9 and weigh 170
|
||
and am in moderately good shape so the dosage I feel wasn't excessive.
|
||
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Any suggestions on how to avoid
|
||
the nausea would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for playing!!!!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
******************************************************************
|
||
** Scott D. McCulloch | If I knew what I was doing, **
|
||
** smccullo@tuba.calpoly.edu | it wouldn't be called **
|
||
** BioChemical Effects Research | research!! **
|
||
******************************************************************
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: anon2792@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Steve Braden)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Robo dosage?
|
||
Date: 31 May 1994 14:07:23 -0600
|
||
Message-ID: <2sg5dr$dg0@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
|
||
|
||
I tried DXM for the first time about two weeks ago. I took 300 mg
|
||
(10 Drixoral Cough Caps @ 30mg each). Result: no effect. I took the
|
||
10 pills over the course of about 20 minutes chased with plenty of water.
|
||
I did take them on a relatively full stomach, though, so maybe that
|
||
was part of the problem.
|
||
|
||
So, on to my question: I'm 6'3", 280 lbs., and in relatively good
|
||
health . . . what dosage should I try next? Should I stick with
|
||
300 mg but take on an empty stomach? Or should I try to increase the
|
||
dosage? I'm more interested in the low dosage effects of DXM at this
|
||
point, particularly the enhancement of listening to music.
|
||
|
||
If you have a suggestion, please drop me some e-mail as well as posting.
|
||
I read alt.drugs regularly, but my newsfeed tends to be slow, and I
|
||
need the info as soon as possible.
|
||
|
||
Thanks for your help,
|
||
Steve
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Message-ID: <171304Z27041994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an17869@anon.penet.fi
|
||
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 17:06:57 UTC
|
||
Subject: DXM and pain (or lack of)
|
||
|
||
I finally decided to try DXM I started with 120mg and noticed a slight
|
||
buzz but also a huge decrease in sensitivity to pain. I banged my hand
|
||
into something bending back a finger nail a bit, nothing terrible but
|
||
normally would hurt alot, it barely hurt at all. Unlike alcohol which
|
||
makes you numb I seem to have full sensation of touch everywhere, but
|
||
things that should hurt don't. Has DXM ever been used for pain relief
|
||
the 120mg dosage seems to have much less mind altering effect than most
|
||
pain relievers.
|
||
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|
||
|
||
From: bdesp@wpi.edu (B. Despres)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: flushing on DXM?
|
||
Date: 3 May 1994 07:57:31 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2q505b$k1c@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
|
||
|
||
hello...
|
||
a few nights ago i tried my highest dose of dextrometorphan yet, about
|
||
500 mg (i had only had up to about 350 previously, with absolutely no
|
||
side effects other than that horrible itching, and even that was only
|
||
light and for a few minutes).
|
||
anyway, i seem to have had quite an odd reaction this time...
|
||
at first i started getting higher and higher like normal, but then
|
||
after about an hour and a half things started to get a wee bit worse...
|
||
i was feeling a bit itchy, but not too bad... when i started scratching
|
||
insanely, it got the attention of a few of my freinds who hadn't done
|
||
anything. they said that i was bright red and had a fever of like 103...
|
||
this bothers me rather a bit, since such things are not a good sign...
|
||
anyway, then i proceeded to scratch like crazy, luckily my face didn't
|
||
get itchy, since i discovered the next day that too much scratching makes
|
||
you look like a survivor of the plague from poe's "masque of the read death",
|
||
if there were survivors...
|
||
next i began to get nauseous, so i went into the bathroom to puke. while in
|
||
there, i got incredible cold sweating, to the point that i was dripping
|
||
with sweat but had goosebumps ( i might still have had a fever , but as far
|
||
as i could tell i was freezing).
|
||
so i managed to live, apparently...
|
||
|
||
but, what i want to know, if anyone out there has a guess, is why i flushed
|
||
and had such a high fever, when i haven't ever before, and hadn't taken
|
||
substantially more than my previous max?
|
||
|
||
thanks.
|
||
|
||
|
||
- ben
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: MRWEBER@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (MARK R WEBER)
|
||
Subject: effects of dxm
|
||
Message-ID: <Cp974z.FFs@hub.cs.jmu.edu>
|
||
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 01:07:46 GMT
|
||
|
||
a, um, friend of mine did a 4oz. bottle of robo max cough,
|
||
and he practically had a fever as well, had the overwhelming
|
||
need to throw up, didn't, and had a bad stomach ache the
|
||
next day. and on 300mg, he felt like his head was in a vice
|
||
and couldn't walk very well, but that's about it. the only
|
||
good thing was that he talked alot.
|
||
mark
|
||
|
||
=============================================================================
|
||
|
||
From: shelby@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Shelby)
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
Subject: Re: effects of dxm
|
||
Date: 9 May 1994 03:54:04 GMT
|
||
Message-ID: <2qkc4s$l0m@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
|
||
|
||
mam6@cornell.edu (Diablo) schpoozed:
|
||
>In article <Cp974z.FFs@hub.cs.jmu.edu>, MRWEBER@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (MARK R
|
||
>WEBER) wrote:
|
||
|
||
[yucky, yet familiar experience deleted]
|
||
|
||
I wish I got off as well as you guys did... About 2am last night I took
|
||
300mg (Drixoral Liquid Caps). Needless to say, nothing interesting happened
|
||
for a while, except that I thought I saw the walls breathing like the early
|
||
stages of an acid trip, so I dropped off to sleep until I awoke on the verge
|
||
of being sick. To make a long story short I was violently sick (toilet and
|
||
bucket, yum) for about 4 hours, happy happy, and even now 22 hours later I'm
|
||
still dizzy and lethargic. Maybe I'm one of the 1 in 10 people who don't
|
||
have the enzyme to process DXM, who knows.
|
||
|
||
To put this in perspective, my drug use is so recreational I'm almost clean.
|
||
Only tripped twice, 5 tabs then 2 the second time, and mj just puts me to
|
||
sleep. Never a big alcohol drinker either. Only reason I like acid is the
|
||
thought processes it opens up, and dollar for dollar it's a better drug in
|
||
my opinion. Now DMT, that's piqued my interest recently...
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
under construction:
|
||
<A HREF="http://realsoon.wpi.edu:8080/~shelby">MARS: The Red Planet</a>
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Message-ID: <025312Z19061994@anon.penet.fi>
|
||
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
|
||
From: an107364@anon.penet.fi (Wirr)
|
||
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 02:52:25 UTC
|
||
Subject: DxM Experience report
|
||
|
||
Hi there ...
|
||
|
||
yesterday (27.05.94) my friend and I tried DXM. We each took 200mg in the
|
||
form of the German brand cough syrup "Arpha Hustenstiller" (apricot-flavor
|
||
disgusting stuff, that :) ).
|
||
|
||
We ingested it about 19:00 hours. First signs of intoxication set in about
|
||
20:00. Unlike the first time, where we tried 133,3mg DXM each, there were no
|
||
signs of hyperactivity. Instead we experienced a calm and warm feeling, which
|
||
got more intense while the DXM started to do its work.
|
||
|
||
My friend (4T4) experienced some slight nausea during the first half hour,
|
||
which vanished after eating a salad (green salad, soy-beens, onions, cucumbers
|
||
and french dressing as topping ;-).
|
||
|
||
Then we both began listen to (German) trance music (Cosmic Baby, etc).
|
||
4T4 kept on asking me (4A4) what I was feeling. What wasn4t much at that
|
||
time. But short period later I noticed that my stereo sounded much better than
|
||
it used to. So we kept on listening to the CD. At about 22:00 another friend
|
||
of us appeared and I had the feeling that the DXM effects were setting out.
|
||
|
||
As 4T4 had the same impression we decided to smoke some hash (MJ). Than it
|
||
all began ... :)
|
||
|
||
WWWHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
|
||
|
||
At first the feeling was only describable as a very light hash stoning. But
|
||
it didn4t stop there. As time went by the effect got more and more intense
|
||
and ended in something which is only comparable to a very strong XTC high.
|
||
We both HAD to get up and dance (to the same CD). We were both VERY high!
|
||
|
||
Absolutely incredible!!!
|
||
|
||
These effect lasted about 20 minutes and began to dissolve (slowly). While
|
||
getting down we both had the impression as if somebody had cloaked our heads.
|
||
Everything (sight and hearing) was dampened. Our environment seemed to be a
|
||
part of a movie. Nothing of it belonged to reality. While getting sober
|
||
reality came back :)
|
||
|
||
At about 23:20 we both felt nearly sober again and so we decided to some hash
|
||
again.
|
||
|
||
This time MJ turned to feel more like alcohol which was also quite funny.
|
||
But the effect always dropped after about 15-20 minutes. And we had to
|
||
smoke some more. But later it was hard to move because we were so lazy due
|
||
to the MJ.
|
||
|
||
All in all it was a very funny, positive and intense experience.
|
||
|
||
Note: Beware if you try this yourself, I realy cant imagine, what
|
||
would have happened if I had smoked any more ! I guess it hadnt been
|
||
that funny.
|
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