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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
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Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
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Message-ID: <CFJ4LI.5z@spdcc.com>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:12:54 GMT
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In article <00974979.61C1BA04@pomona.claremont.edu> agaluhn@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
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>>It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine. Sold as an allergy medication,
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>>and a sleep aid.
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>(Description of diphenhydramine experience deleted.)
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>Actuall, motion sickness pills (garden variety
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>Dramamine) are dimenhydrinate. Sorta kinda different from diphenhydramine...
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Dimenhydrinate is the 8-chlorotheophyllinate salt of diphenhydramine.
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The only important difference is potency: 50mg of dimenhydrinate is
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equivalent to 25mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride. Same drug.
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It's still stupid to try to get high from overdosing on antihistamines.
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It's unpleasant and potentially dangerous.
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--
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Steve Dyer
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dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com
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From: tiscione@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu (Jason Tiscione)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
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Message-ID: <Oct.25.20.57.40.1993.18059@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu>
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Date: 26 Oct 93 00:57:41 GMT
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edith@unm.edu (peter menning) writes:
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>Was talking late one night at a Dennys.. When i overherd someone at the
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>table next to us start talking about how he started triping from taking 9 or
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>10 motion sickness tabs.. <Diphenhydromene <I know i am killing the spelling>
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>I am curious, Is it really true or is it a new U/L? And what would the side >effects be?
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It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine. Sold as an allergy medication,
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and a sleep aid. It's more expensive as a sleep aid, even though it's the
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same formulation- I guess they figure people will pay more to be sleepy than
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they will to ease up their asthma attacks. Or maybe it's a "sin tax" thing?
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Took 250 mg once (a reckless experiment- but 60mg and 125mg on previous
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nights didn't seem to do anything- and I was curious) and I didn't like it
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at all.
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(That's equivalent to ten 25 mg tablets.) There's a feeling like, uh, you're
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slipping away from yourself, you can't control what happens to you, etc.
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All I wanted to do, for some reason, was read, read, read, but the next
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day I didn't remember anything that happened on 20 pages. (Useless.)
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Hallucination has been reported but if I recall correctly, they aren't the
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kind you'd want to have! (e.g. Thinking someone has been in the room who
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hasn't, believing that you have to do chores that you've already done,
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thinking that it's Tuesday when it's Saturday, etc.) Not beautiful
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spiral patterns on the wall or audio reverbations or anything LSD-ish, so
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if you're looking for an "LSD replacement", speaking from personal
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experience, I don't recommend diphenhydramine at all.
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Jason
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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From: HARPETH1@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (_VTA9390:)
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Subject: Methedrine
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Message-ID: <1994Jan18.101339.11371@news.vanderbilt.edu>
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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 10:13:39 GMT
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I've posted this before with no response: Does anyone know what
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methedrine is? I guess not. I am assuming that it's some type of meth-
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amphetamine analog. A friend says he has access to this drug and intends to
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try it soon. I just thought I'd ask one last time for his benefit.
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On a different note, I've seen several postings regarding Jimson Weed
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(Datura Stramonium I believe). I was always curious about this plant, but
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the effects described sound similar to Gravol (Dramamine), which I HAVE
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tried. I for one would class it more as a deleriant than a hallucinogen.
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The trip started with a nice stoned feeling, but quickly changed. When
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staring at any white object (ceilings, and even cups or cupped hands) I
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noticed a strange clear gellatin-like substance that seemed to jiggle and
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spread towards me (looked a lot like the alien in the Predator movies).
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While doing LSD or psilocybin, I have always been able to tell reality from
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hallucinations. This is not the case with Dramamine. Several times I car-
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ried on conversations with individuals before discovering they were non-
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existant. I saw people and objects that were not there as well. Perhaps the
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worst aspect of the trip was the auditory part. I constantly heard my name
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being called, and sound is magnified to a very uncomfortable level. Speech
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(even from myself) was not only loud and difficult, but VERY slurred. Com-
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munication was difficult due to the fact that I would forget what I was talk-
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ing about in mid-sentence, and would finish most sentences off by saying "Uh,
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nevermind...I forgot." The amount of paranoia that prevailed throughout the
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trip was unbearable: especially after I saw my brother rise out of a pile of
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clothes in the floor to tell me that my father (who happens to be the head
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of a drug task force) was calling me. Maybe all of this was due to the fact
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that I was alone for the majority of this experience (nightmare). Definate-
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ly a one time experience for me. Not recomended for the weak of heart or
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mind. Especially at that dosage: 24 tablets!
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Jamey
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Message-ID: <162302Z02051994@anon.penet.fi>
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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From: an55866@anon.penet.fi
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Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 16:16:18 UTC
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Subject: dimenhydrinate
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Hi,
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After seeing the posts on Marezine, I checked out anti-emetics in
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general and anti-histamines, and came across the anti-histamine
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hallucinogenic tendency. So I got some dimenhydrinate, the local
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Rite-Aid variety (cheaper than Dramamine--sp?), and paid four bucks for
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two boxes of twelve at 50 mg each. I was going to take them with a
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friend, but another friend wanted to split them three ways, so we had
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eight apiece (400 mg). We were pretty tired before we took them (about
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one in the morning), and especially with the anti-histamine property of
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putting one to sleep, we decided to have some coffee. We, being
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stoopid, put a hefty amount of Bailey's in our coffee, which I think was
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one of the reasons we didn't react much. About forty minutes passed,
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and we finally started feeling it. When inquired about my head, I said,
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"I think my brain shrunk." It felt very odd--not light, not heavy, just
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empty. :) When spoken to, we would have a delay (five to ten seconds)
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before we could reply, which started amusing me, but I couldn't seem to
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help it. I went to bed about two hours later (had a fun time walking
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there, too), and tried to sleep. I thought it was wearing off. The dry
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mouth thing was buggin, so I kept some water by my bed. I had a hard
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time going to sleep, especially when a couple times I was choking and
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found it difficult to bring in air through my throat (as opposed to
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through my lungs). I am a MILD asthmatic, and I was just starting to
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get sick, so that probably had something to do with it, but my friend
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said he started having to _think_ about breathing. I woke up about
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seven hours later alive, but with a pretty good headache. I only talked
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to one of the other friends, and he said he was still messed up that
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afternoon with the delay and stuff.
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I guess I'd try it again, but with no alcohol (I doubt what we had
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was a very big factor, though) and more dimenhydrinate (to try to get
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the hallucinations). If anyone has tried it under better conditions,
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please post (especially whether or not you had hallucinations), and
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thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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From: dmaycrg@netcom.com (David May)
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Subject: Marazine
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Message-ID: <dmaycrgCpF9C1.r2@netcom.com>
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Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 07:40:48 GMT
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We used to do this stuff in junior high when we couldnt get anything else,
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and yes if you take 4 or more you poisen your system and hallucinate badly.
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One of my friends thought his dad was his girl friend and tried to do her,
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needless to say he ended up in the hospital getting his stomach pumped. And
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my other friend thought a gas pump was alive and attacking his car so he ran
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over it. It was all captured on video camera, he had some explaining to
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do in court. And when I did it I felt like i had aton of bricks dropped onto
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my head the next day. Mushrooms or mescaline is much better!!!
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--
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dmaycrg@netcom.com
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Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 14:26:11 EDT
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From: Gordo <DSG119@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Message-ID: <94120.142611DSG119@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Marezine trip - Evaluation
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OK, I saw the posts on marezine on the net, and decided to see if they
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sold it at the local drug store. Sure enough - they did - $6.09 for
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a box of 12. I took 7 of them at 10:45 PM (I wanted to be conservative
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since I don't know anyone firsthand who has done this). I went out -
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after two hours, the only effect I got was feeling REALLY tired.
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(Note - I'm 6 foot, 160lbs, male, with no tolerance to any drug)I
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went back home around 1AM, and took 3 more for a total of 10. I
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stayed in my room for about 30 min. then went out for a walk. I
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wasn't really feeling that tired anymore, and felt dazed.
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As I walked down a dark, quiet, back road listening to the Dead on my
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headphones - I saw a glowing white ball. At first I thought it was
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a person, then I thought it was an animal. It was about the size of
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a basketball, about 70 yards away. It was bouncing up and down and
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back and forth. As I got closer - I realized that the halucinations
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had begun. I was actually surprised - because after almost 3 hours of
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nothing - I was hallucinating. I looked up at the stars - and saw some
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really amazing psychedelic patterns twisting and gyrating among the
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clounds. It wasn't anything like acid/shrooms - everything was just a
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dull white (no colors at all with eyes open) but it was still very
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cool. Also it was different because occasionally I would just see big
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flashes like a strobe light. The best thing was the way the patterns
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worked their way into the clouds - I'd never seen anything quite like it -
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I would see the wild geometric patters flying around - then all of a sudden
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the would go INTO a cloud - and the cloud would start glowing! And then
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the cloud would burst and all the zig zags would come flying out of it
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again.
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After a while, I went back and layed in my bed. I could see colorful
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paterns with my eyes closed - but not when open. The colors were only
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simple red, yellow, green, and blue's, and the line patterns were
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not too complex. One cool thing that I could do was concentrate on
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some object, for example a soda can - and I could see that object perfectly
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clearly - and I would see my hands (this is all with eyes closed) and could
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move the object around - I thought that was cool. Then I actually heard
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a woman's voice - I knew it was just in my head - but I she seemed to
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have a mind of her own. I talked to her - and she came up with these
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funny respones out of no where - it made me laugh. Eventually all of
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the effects went away - but I could not fall asleep. I did not fall
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asleep till around 5 AM.
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Overall, I would say its worth trying once, definitely different. It doesn't
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have that "deep thought" thing thats going on with acid/shrooms which is
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kind of refreshing in a way, makes it more recreational and less spiritual.
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From: an65848@anon.penet.fi (Anonymous)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Re: marezine : cylizine hydrochloride
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Date: 14 May 1994 15:29:58 GMT
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Message-ID: <2r2qpm$mv7@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
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In article <33V5Lc1w165w@qedbbs.com>, aga@qedbbs.com (Peter Dilley) says:
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>
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>marezine for a one time or possibly short term recreational use has come
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>to my attention.
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>is the active ingredient, cylizine hydrochloride, which i presume is the
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>psychoactive substance, listed in any depth in nonprescription drug
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>encyclopedias? How is it classified? Does it show up in recreational
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>books such as PIHKAL? Is it a tryptamine?
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>the inactive ingredients in the 50mg tablets are corn and potato starch,
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>dextrin, lactose, and magnesium stearate. I am assuming the later is for
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>anti spoilage and the rest for building the bulk of the tablet.
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>the adult prescribed rate of injestion is 1 tablet every 4 to 6 hours,
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>not to exceed 4 tablets every 24 hours. what does the recreational
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>community use it [amount] : 4 tablets on empty stomach? at what level for
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>180-200 pound individuals, or 200-220 pound individuals or 160-180 pound
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>individuals. Is the only side effect a supposedly psychedelic effect?
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>please e-mail me any information that you might have to share on this.
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>oh, what would this be classified as. Mild psychedelic as in THC
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>[cannabis] or Major psychedelic [LSD-25, 'Shrooms (Psilocybin/Psilocin)]
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>Or a little over mild, a little under major, or middle?
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Well, I'm a 160 pound individual and I took 9 of the tablets (the box
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contains 12, If I remember correctly). It had some hallucinogenic
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properties (lights seemed brighter, shadows moved around) but
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nowhere near as good as LSD. My thoughts were a little abnormal,
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but again, it wasn't as interesting as LSD. However, the side-effects
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were quite disquieting. My eyes became very dry it seemed, and I
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had to blink often, so even when I saw something cool, I couldn't
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concentrate on it. The drug also made me very lethargic at first, and
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I wasn't sure whether I was going to pass out or not. This tired feeling
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lasted for most of the "trip", and I would wonder into semi-sleep states
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where I had something resembling dreams until I understood that I
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was falling asleep and snapped out of it. This scared me as I didn't
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know whether I had overdosed and this was serious, or whether it
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was just a normal side-effect. Anyway, I didn't like almost losing
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consciousness. Finally, after about 3 or 4 hours, I tried to go to sleep.
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I felt tired, but could not fall asleep. After a while, I started to have
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slight muscle spasms in my right arm which occurred whenever I
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didn't move for a few moments (definately not conducive to sleeping).
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By now I definately wanted the effects to go away. What I'm saying
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is that Marezine provided some interesting visuals, greater than
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Marijuana, but not as beautiful or interesting as LSD/shrooms, but
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the side-effects were definately not worth it. If you think you might be
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into this type of thing, you might as well bang your head against a
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brick wall until you start seeing spots or somehting; that's about the
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level of enjoyment I received from it. Stick to LSD if you can, if not,
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get a Robo buzz, but I for one do not recommend Marezine unless
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you actually do take it for motion sickness.
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