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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 11 Num. 99
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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SECRETS OF THE L.A. RIOTS -- PART II
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[Editor's note: Fred Celeni (pronounced suh-LAN-ee) worked as a
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federal intelligence agent, he says, for the office of U.S.
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Congressman John D. Dingell. Celeni was interviewed for public
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access television in Los Angeles, and that interview was later
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re-broadcast on Sherman Skolnick's television program,
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"Broadsides," in Chicago. Following is my own abbreviated
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transcript of Celeni's remarks. (Possible spelling errors exist
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and are not noted.)]
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[...continued...]
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-+- Tow Truck Mike -+-
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INTERVIEWER: What happened to the black individual, you said,
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who was a local resident who happened to be out there with a
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video camera? He shot you, sitting in the LAPD car. Can you
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tell us what happened?
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FRED CELENI: A gentleman pulled up in a tow truck. I came to
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find out, later on, that he was called "Tow Truck Mike." And Tow
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Truck Mike took a videotape of what was going on; he swung the
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camera around and picked me up, sitting, looking out the window
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of the [squad] car. He was back, I'd say, 150 feet.
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So what I did is, I wrote down the license number and I got on
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the telephone. And a couple of hours later, the police invaded
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Mike's home. And they took Mike down to the police station --
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they took his mother, too... his mother or his father. And they
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said to him, "If you don't give us this videotape, your mother
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(or father) is never leaving this police station alive."
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And so he turned over the tape.
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INTERVIEWER: The meeting at the Hamburger Hamlet with Robert
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Vernon, the Assistant Chief of Police: Who else was at that
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meeting?
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FRED CELENI: There were three meetings that took place at that
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location. The first meeting was Robert Vernon, Ira Reiner, and
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myself. The second meeting was...
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INTERVIEWER: Ira Reiner!? The District Attorney?
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FRED CELENI: Yes, sir. The District Attorney.
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Mr. Reiner wore a baseball hat -- a red baseball hat that
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said "Los Angeles" on it. And when we left that first meeting,
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he gave me the hat as a souvenir. And I wore it when they taped
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me for "Street Stories." "Street Stories" came in when I was
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interviewing Damian Williams' mother for my radio show. And when
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they taped it for airing... It never aired, because Dingell
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ordered it pulled. But the tape still exists, I'm sure, at CBS.
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INTERVIEWER: Congressman John Dingell from Michigan ordered it
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pulled?
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FRED CELENI: Yes, sir.
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INTERVIEWER: How did he have this power?
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FRED CELENI: He told me that he just called up somebody in New
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York City and said that, "=I= =do= =not= =want= Celeni on the
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air."
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They were there for an hour that day, taping me, at radio
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station KIEV in Glendale.
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INTERVIEWER: Congressman Dingell actually admitted this to you?
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FRED CELENI: Yes, sir. He said, "=I= =do= =not= =want= you on
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the air. Somebody might recognize your face. And I can't have
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you on the air as 'Fred Sebastian.'"
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INTERVIEWER: That was your code name, "Fred Sebastian?"
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FRED CELENI: Yes.
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INTERVIEWER: What knowledge did Ira Reiner have?
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FRED CELENI: Basically what they were doing [at the Hamburger
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Hamlet meeting] was internecine warfare. Mr. Reiner said that,
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not only was there a wealth of intelligence coming out of
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[Operation Lasso], but he felt that he had no control over it.
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We had had an incident a couple of months before with the
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Sheriff's Department up in Malibu, which almost blew the
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operation wide open, and they had to come in and cover it up.
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And at that point, Mr. Reiner said that he wanted more-direct
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input. So he arranged for one of his murder prosecutors from Van
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Nuys to start overseeing the cases. And he also arranged for one
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of his former prosecutors to take a job directly at CCLJ.
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The Center for Constitutional Law and Justice [CCLJ] was =not=
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a store-front law firm. It had a quarter of a floor in an office
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building. It had ten attorneys. They had a complete support
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staff. They had $100,000 worth of computers and fax machines and
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telephone systems. They had sophisticated taping and
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surveillance systems. They had a sophisticated electronic entry
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system: when you came in, you had to acknowledge that you were
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coming into a videotaped and audiotaped area. The *California
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Law Magazine* talks about it.
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All of the money came from Congress. This is the first time
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in the history of the country where you have Congressman John
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Dingell running an illegal intelligence operation, and killing
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people who are United States citizens.
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The fact is, nobody has adequately checked this story out.
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And until somebody checks it out, they will continue to get away
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with it.
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-+- Praying On O.J. Simpson -+-
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INTERVIEWER: This leads us to an interesting coalition, of
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Nathan Arnold and Mark Fuhrman, on another celebrated case.
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FRED CELENI: It's kind of a strange story. And I'll tell you why.
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One day, we were sitting at the Hamburger Hamlet. (And this
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is =before= the riot. This is back about January of 1992.) And
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Bob Vernon, every time we would meet, he would make us pray. He
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was a devout Christian and a deacon in his church. And we had to
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hold hands, and we had to pray. (Not that I have a problem with
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it; I was an old Catholic altar boy. I thought it was kind of
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strange, though, to do it in the Hamburger Hamlet.) And in the
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course of doing this praying... We finished praying, and he says
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to me, "What do you think about 'jungle bunnies' being with our
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white women?"
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And I paused for a moment. I thought to myself, "Bunnies?"
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(Because I'm thinking about what we're doing, and this guy's off
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in the briar patch.) And he lost me for a second. Then it hit
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me, what he meant. I said, "Well, if the woman and the man meet,
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and they want to be together, I guess that's their business." I
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don't think it's any of =my= business.
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And he said, "Well that's not the kind of attitude you should
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have. God means monkeys to stay in trees with monkeys; and God
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means white women to stay with white men."
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INTERVIEWER: And this is who, saying this?
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FRED CELENI: This was Robert Vernon.
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And I said, "What's the purpose of this? Where are you going?"
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And he said, "Do you know O.J. Simpson?"
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I said, "I don't know him personally, but as you know, we had
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him under surveillance back in Buffalo a few years ago.
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And he said, "Well, you know, that son-of-a-bitch is fooling
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around with a woman from my church. And I hate that."
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Well from there begins an odyssey where we start following
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O.J. Simpson, Nicole Simpson. And it ends up that we had a woman
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under surveillance, and in the course of the surveillance, we
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begin to find out that Mr. Simpson is involved in the cocaine
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trade.
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INTERVIEWER: What time frame does this envelop?
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FRED CELENI: Late 1991 to early 1992.
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INTERVIEWER: Prior to the riots.
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FRED CELENI: Prior to the riots.
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The meeting where he discussed this, if I remember correctly,
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was around February of 1992. But Mr. Simpson had been a subject
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of an intelligence operation, by =their= office, in late 1991.
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=We= had no direct contact with it in its early stages of 1991.
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We came into it in 1992. But he had already been under
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surveillance.
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INTERVIEWER: By LAPD?
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FRED CELENI: Correct.
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Later on, we were told to keep up surveillance on O.J.
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Simpson. And we found out that Simpson is basically a moron.
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And I don't mean that in any racial fashion, when I say that.
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I'm talking about as a human being. He's a moron. And if it's a
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white woman and she has her legs open, O.J. Simpson will be
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there. It's as simple as that. And it's sad, but that's the way
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the man is.
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What happens after that, as we get into the "Lasso" operation
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and the riots, eventually I am told, in August, to start winding
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things down. And this was in the Los Angeles Times: Everyone
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wanted to know why, all of a sudden, in August, the Center for
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Constitutional Law and Justice starts shutting itself down.
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Everyone says, "What's going on here?" And then, one day, we
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fire all the lawyers.
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[...to be continued...]
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+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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For related stories, visit:
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http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html
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http://www.netcom.com/~feustel
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Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et
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pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9
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