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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 11 Num. 98
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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SECRETS OF THE L.A. RIOTS -- PART I
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[Editor's note: Fred Celeni (pronounced suh-LAN-ee) worked as a
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federal intelligence agent, he says, for the office of U.S.
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Congressman John D. Dingell. Celeni was interviewed for public
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access television in Los Angeles, and that interview was later
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re-broadcast on Sherman Skolnick's television program,
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"Broadsides," in Chicago. Following is my own abbreviated
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transcript of Celeni's remarks. (Possible spelling errors exist
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and are not noted.)]
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FRED CELENI: ...and they asked for identification, and I gave
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them a copy of John Dingell's letter introducing me as a member
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of this investigative setup, of the Oversight Investigation
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Subcommittee.
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At that point, they made a telephone call, and two people
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entered the room. One of them was known to me: Vincent Foster.
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Vincent, in previous operations in Springfield, Illinois, had at
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that time become known as "The Rabbi." There was a man with him;
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he identified himself as Walter Husting. They told me that he
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was a newspaper publisher. And the specifics stand out for two
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reasons. I said, one, "Why would a newspaper publisher be in a
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room where we're planning a covert intelligence activity?" And
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the second thing that bothered me was that I knew I had seen this
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guy someplace before.
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We conversed for about an hour and some minutes. At that
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point I was asked to give Ms. [Betsy] Wright a ride home. I
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dropped her off. I'm not sure if that was her house or not, but
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it was what we refer to as a "Cape Cod." It wasn't very large.
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It wasn't what I expected her to live in, based on her being the
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head of Clinton's campaign.
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During that meeting, what came up was a plan that the
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Oversight Investigation Subcommittee had put together in 1980.
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And during that meeting we discussed that plan. And what that
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plan basically purported to be was a system to handle
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insurrection. Now if you read the title and the first few pages,
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you had this feeling it was a report on how to stop insurrection
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in a major American city. But as you got further into the plan,
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it said, "Now that we have discussed how to cease and desist this
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problem, =these= are the factors that could lead to this type of
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a riot." What it really was, was 30 pages of blueprint on how to
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start a riot: How you would be able to go in and rile up a
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community; how you would be able to approach the youth; how you
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would infiltrate schools.
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Now what they wanted to do was bring forward the idea that
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"America has to depend on the government." That they could paint
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the Los Angeles police or the Chicago police as racists and
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bigots, then everyone would look to the federal government to
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come in and be their savior.
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INTERVIEWER: When did you learn the true identity of this Walter
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Husting?
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FRED CELENI: About a month-and-a-half later, I happened to see a
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program on television. And they identified the man as being a
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key aide on the Clinton staff. And I wasn't positive until I
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actually saw him, the night before the election, on television in
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Little Rock. That's when I realized it was the same individual.
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INTERVIEWER: And who is that?
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FRED CELENI: His name's James Carville.
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INTERVIEWER: Betsy Wright did not use an alias.
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FRED CELENI: No, she did not.
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-+- The Al Gore Plan -+-
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INTERVIEWER: Now let's fast-forward ahead, to April of 1992.
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You're back in Los Angeles and operating this phony law firm, and
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"Operation Lasso" was in full-swing. You then had the situation
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with Rodney King: the trial of the officers involved in his
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beating. You then already had orders to put this inciting into
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effect?
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FRED CELENI: No. It depended on what happened. If the verdict
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had been "guilty," the set of orders on how we were to proceed
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would have been totally different. If it had been "guilty," the
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orders were, to go out into the white community and, with our
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television show and our radio show -- we had a show called
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"Investigative Reporter" -- we were to get negative comments;
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anti-black comments. If they [the police officers] were =not=
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convicted, then we were to do the opposite. That opposite plan
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was, to use a modified version of the 1980 Oversight
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Investigation plan.
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INTERVIEWER: Written by Al Gore.
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FRED CELENI: Authored by Al Gore and a couple other people. Al
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Gore's name was at the top of it.
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And what that plan was, was to go into the black community and
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incite that community.
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-+- The Rolling 90s -+-
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So as the trial started to wind down to the end (about 10 days
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before the verdict), it was obvious there was going to be a "not
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guilty" verdict.
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So what we did was, we started going into the black community
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and started contacting the black youth. We concentrated on 3
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areas: what we called the Somoan Crip area (the poorer section
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of Long Beach); the Rolling 30s, Rolling 60s, Rolling 90s Crips
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(which is another black gang); and last, on something called "The
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8-Tray Gangster Crips." And we ended up getting the best
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response out of the 8-Tray Gangster Crips, of which Damian
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Williams and [unclear] Park were the leaders. Damian Williams
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was called "Football."
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What we started doing was, going in there distributing cash,
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crack cocaine, and weapons -- handguns.
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When the verdict came down, we had nailed it down to 2 areas.
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We cut out the Long Beach Somoans; the Somoan Crips were so
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violent that we feared they would explode and it would turn into
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something that we didn't want it to turn into. The object was
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not to burn down Los Angeles; the object was to create a small
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riot in a confined area... a small insurrection.
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The Rolling 60s controls 60th street -- all those streets:
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sixtieth, sixty-first, sixty-second, etc. The Rolling 90s
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control 90th street and all those. The Rolling 30s control
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thirtieth street, thirty-first, etc. And then, up in the
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high-90s, is where the 8-Tray Gangsters meet.
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The day the riot actually started, what happened was, early in
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the morning, when they announced a verdict had been reached, we
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went to the Los Angeles Police Department and we picked up a
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4-door Chevrolet black-and-white unit. It had all the computers
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and radios inside, but we were told not to use those; to stay off
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the communication channels and to use a portable telephone. We
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proceeded from there -- myself, and three black gentlemen: one
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was named Anthony; one was named Charles; one was named Shabazz.
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INTERVIEWER: Who was your contact at Van Nuys [LAPD precinct],
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to get the police car?
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FRED CELENI: His name was Nathan Arnold, Jr.
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INTERVIEWER: You worked closely with Nathan Arnold for some time.
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FRED CELENI: Yes. I worked with Nathan for approximately a year.
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INTERVIEWER: He was very aware of the whole operation.
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FRED CELENI: In fact so. Nathan is part of the elite
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intelligence squad [of LAPD. See the book, *L.A. Secret Police*
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by Mike Rothmiller -- ISBN: 0-671-79657-7 -- for further info.]
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He's ostensibly assigned as a senior detective to the Van Nuys
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narcotics squad. But, underneath it all, you have to understand
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that, in the early to late 1980s the Los Angeles Police
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Department operated their own CIA. It was called the Los Angeles
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Police Department Intelligence Unit. They had to disband that
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because of problems. So they surfaced this thing as what they
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called a "Metropolitan Task Force."
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INTERVIEWER: What was Nathan Arnold, Jr.'s, affiliation with
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Mark Fuhrman?
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FRED CELENI: There were two other men in the "Lasso" operation
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who were assigned by the LAPD. A man by the name of Robert
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Vernon was the second-in-command, Los Angeles Police Department.
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He's a Deputy Chief. Also brought in were Tom Lange and Mark
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Fuhrman. And those three people came from three different units.
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But they totally controlled "Lasso" and the area we were working
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in.
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INTERVIEWER: And they also worked together on drug and sting
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operations?
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FRED CELENI: Correct. Intelligence operations. You have to
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understand that some of them are from homicide -- the reason
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being, drugs cross two areas: they either result in death, or
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dealing in drugs. And those two areas combine.
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Robert Vernon told me... (We had dinner one day at Hamburger
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Hamlet in Van Nuys.) Vernon said to me, "I'm putting Tom Lange
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into this mix, because Mark Fuhrman and Nathan Arnold are loose
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cannons. They're very difficult to control. But Tom's a real,
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sincere, nice guy. He can control these people."
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INTERVIEWER: Back to the "Lasso" operation, on the day of the
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riot, April 1992. You've just picked up the police car in Van
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Nuys, and you have three young black... hoodlums, shall we call
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them?
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FRED CELENI: No, these weren't hoodlums. These three men were
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from the El Toro Marine Base, in southern California.
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INTERVIEWER: I see. So they were assigned to "Operation Lasso."
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And their names again?
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FRED CELENI: One was named Anthony. One was named Charles. One
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was named Shabazz.
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INTERVIEWER: Now you are driving them in an LAPD car on the
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afternoon of the verdict. And where do you go?
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FRED CELENI: First we went to [unclear]; we were about a block
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away, because we were waiting for Nathan Arnold to catch up to
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us.
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INTERVIEWER: What was in the trunk of your car?
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FRED CELENI: We had two automatic weapons, that are called
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"Mach-10s." We had approximately two-dozen handguns which did
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not contain serial numbers.
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INTERVIEWER: And how much ammunition?
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FRED CELENI: Oh, I would say probably one clip for each handgun
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and one extra.
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INTERVIEWER: Any bombs?
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FRED CELENI: No. We did have a can of diesel fuel. But we did
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not release that from the trunk.
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INTERVIEWER: And crack cocaine?
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FRED CELENI: Yes, we had quite a bit of crack cocaine. We had
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approximately one kilo.
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INTERVIEWER: And where did you go?
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FRED CELENI: The decision was made to go to Florence and
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Normandy, not to Long Beach. We proceeded to a gas station in
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the area.
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INTERVIEWER: You parked in the back and did what?
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FRED CELENI: We unloaded the two boxes, out of the trunk, and
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put them on the ground. And I drove out of the lot and parked
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nearby.
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INTERVIEWER: And at this time you realized that you were being
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filmed by a private individual with a video camera.
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FRED CELENI: Correct.
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INTERVIEWER: (We'll go into him a little later.)
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Meanwhile, Shabazz, Anthony and Charles took the boxes of
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weapons and crack cocaine to the front of the gas station and
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began to dispense the contents, on the street corner. Do you
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know of any other, similar operations, going on at that moment,
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in order to incite the riots?
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FRED CELENI: I had been told there were other operations.
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INTERVIEWER: Later, you came back to pick up Charles, Anthony
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and Shabazz. How much later?
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FRED CELENI: A little over an hour later.
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INTERVIEWER: Then where did you take them?
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FRED CELENI: We drove a short distance and went to where the
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riot had actually started. A woman had been attacked by police.
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Her boy and she had been pushed down. They knocked over a fence.
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And all of =our= machinations near the gas station (I came to
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find out) were nowhere =near= as inciteful as what had happened
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by that fence.
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[...to be continued...]
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+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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For related stories, visit:
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http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html
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http://www.netcom.com/~feustel
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Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt.
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Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et
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pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9
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