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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 99
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ON VINCE FOSTER SUICIDE
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Congressional Record (Vol. 140, No. 104)
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House of Representatives, Tuesday, August 2, 1994
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<Transcribed from the RECORD by Christopher Dunn, cxdunn@delphi.com>
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Part 1 of 2
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The SPEAKER pro tempore:
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Under the Speaker's announced policy of February 11, 1994,
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and June 10, 1994, the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. Burton]
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is recognized for 60 minutes as the minority leader's designee.
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Mr. BURTON of Indiana:
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Mr. Speaker, over the past several weeks there has been a lot
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of questions about the death of Vince Foster and the connection of his
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death to the Whitewater investigation, and I have had nine people on
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my staff at the Republican Study Committee and my personal staff and
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some outside sources investigating this, because the Committee on
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Banking, Finance, and Urban Affairs here in the House that is doing
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the Whitewater investigation on a party line vote has limited the
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scope of the investigation to such a degree that one Member said that
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if the same principles had been applied to the O.J. Simpson case, the
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one thing you could ask O.J. Simpson is "How was your trip to Chicago?"
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You couldn't ask any other questions. That is how limited the
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investigation is. There is a deliberate attempt to minimize the
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investigation and, I think, to cover up a lot of the facts.
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On the Senate side we have a similar problem. It is not
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quite as bad over there, but nevertheless a lot of the information
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that must come out regarding Vince Foster's death and his connection
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to the Whitewater matter needs to be explored.
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<19:20> (The Record indicates time of day.)
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So tonight, even though I have been castigated by a lot of
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the people in the media, even though some Members of the Senate
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committee and the House Banking Committee have indicated that we
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have made some comments that are not very understanding as far as
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Mr. Foster's family is concerned, I feel compelled to go through
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this tonight one more with one addition. Because we have been taken
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to task because of things I have said on the floor, I went out and
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found the confidential witness, the man that found Vince Foster's
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body, and I got a sworn statement. He swore before God that the
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things that I am going to read to you tonight are factual.
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So I am going to go into the entire litany, the entire
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chronology of Vince Foster's death and the connection to Whitewater.
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Then I will read to you excerpts -- very important excerpts. I would
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read the whole thing to you, but we would be here all night because
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it is a 50-page sworn statement. But I will read to you excerpts
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that verify everything I have been saying before this body.
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On July 20, 1993, Vince Foster left his White House office
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at 1 p.m. He was later found dead by a confidential witness at Fort
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Marcy Park. The confidential witness is the person that gave this
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sworn testimony to me. Nobody knows who he is except two FBI agents,
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G. Gordon Liddy, and myself.
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Emergency medical service personnel discovered the body
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shortly after they arrived at the park at 6:09 p.m. The confidential
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witness was interviewed by G. Gordon Liddy on March 27. He was
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interviewed by me on July 21, and in between he was interviewed by
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the FBI agents who Mr. Liddy urged him to talk to.
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The confidential witness told Mr. Liddy and me that he
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approached to within two and one-half to three feet of Vince Foster's
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head and he leaned over and looked directly down into Mr. Foster's
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eyes. He stated very specifically that the head was looking straight
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up and that the hands were at his side, palms up with no gun in either
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hand.
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The Fiske report quotes the confidential witness as saying that
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he may have been mistaken and that there may have been a gun in Foster's
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hands, that he did not see because of the dense foliage and the position
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of the hand.
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The confidential witness told me that the FBI agents pressed him
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on the issue of the gun, asking him as many as 20 to 25 times if he was
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sure there was no gun. And according to the confidential witness, the
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FBI said, "what if the trigger guard was around the thumb and the thumb
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was obscured by foliage and the rest of the gun was obscured by the
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foliage and the hand?" In other words, the trigger guard would be
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around the thumb, the gun would be underneath the thumb, and a leaf
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would be over that and you would not see it.
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The confidential witness, after being asked about 20 to 25
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times, said, "If what you describe were the case, then I suppose it
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could be possible because I did not count his fingers, but I am sure
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that the palms were definitely opened and facing up."
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At this point the confidential witness still had not seen a
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copy of the photograph of Foster's hand that was shown on ABC news.
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The photo showed the right hand palm down with the thumb trapped in
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the trigger guard. He had not seen that. When I went to see this
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gentleman, I showed him the photo. He was sitting at his kitchen
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table, and he stood up and walked around the table twice, saying,
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"This is not the way it was; that is not the way it was! Those hands,
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that hand was moved!"
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Why did he get so angry when he saw the photo? He told me not
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only that the hand had been moved, but that some of the things
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he told the FBI were not mentioned in the report. For
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instance, the vegetation at the bottom of the body had been
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trampled like somebody had been walking around there. Why was
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no mention of the trampled vegetation in the Fiske report?
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The confidential witness also reported that he saw a wine
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cooler bottle near Mr. Foster's body. Such a bottle was not noted in
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the Fiske report. We are going to talk about these wine cooler bottles
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a little later. There was, in the Fiske report, a blood stain on
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the right side of Mr. Foster's face. Mr. Fiske's report noted that
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the blood stain on Foster's right cheek and his right shoulder were
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inconsistent with the head being upright. In other words, if the
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head was sitting up, how did the blood get on the cheek and the
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right shoulder? So somebody had to move the head.
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But the problem is, before the police or anybody got there,
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the head was already straight up. So who moved the head? The report
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describes the stain on his cheek as a contact stain, typical of having
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been caused by a blotting action such as would happen with a blood-
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soaked object brought in contact with the side of the face and taken
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away.
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So at sometime his face had to be in contact with his shoulder,
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according to the report. Mr. Fiske's report assumes that one of the
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early emergency personnel that came to the park move the head. But
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the confidential witness said the head was already moved. And he was
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the first person to see the body before anybody got there.
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In addition, Mr. Fiske, after interviewing all the people at
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the scene, fails to identify anybody that admits to touching the body
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and moving the head. So he assumes it was moved by somebody after the
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body was found, but he does not know who it was. Yet the confidential
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witness that found the body said it was already straight up. Why did
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Mr. Fiske assume that one of the persons who arrived after the
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confidential witness moved his head, when the confidential witness was
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the first person to find Foster's body? He said the head was facing
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straight up at the time.
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Now, the FBI did not find the bullet or skull fragments at
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the park. On July 20, 1993, the park police conducted a search for
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the bullet that killed Foster using only one metal detector. And they
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found nothing at all after a lengthy search. Why did they only use one
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metal detector? This is one of the highest-ranking people in the
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Clinton White House. They had one metal detector running around
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through the woods there, and this did not find anything. Then, nine
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months later, on April 4, 1994, sixteen FBI agents and experts searched
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Fort Marcy for the bullet and they found twelve -- not one, not two,
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but twelve -- modern-day bullets. But they did not find the one that
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killed Vince Foster.
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The FBI searched immediately beneath where Foster's body was
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found by digging and hand-sifting the soil and other debris. They
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excavated down a foot and a half. They found no bullet and no bone
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fragments. In the search for the bullet, the FBI personnel marked out
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a grid of the most likely area for the bullet to be found after passing
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through Foster's skull. The area was searched using a metal detector.
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Once again, twelve modern-day bullets were found, but the FBI lab
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determined that none were the one that shot Vince Foster or came out
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of his gun.
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Now, I contacted a ballistics expert in California who stated
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that after passing through a man's skull, a .38 caliber bullet should
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travel no more than 1,200 to 1,600 feet -- or about 300 to 500 yards.
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The FBI should have been able to find that bullet with all the people
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that were out there and all the expertise they had, if the bullet was
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in the park. So why was it not found?
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Get this. Once again, this is very important. There were no
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fingerprints on the gun, and there were no fingerprints on 27 separate
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pieces of the suicide note. Can you imagine a suicide note torn into
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27 pieces without a fingerprint on it? You would have to wear surgical
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gloves. Here is how he explained that. The FBI found no fingerprints
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on the .38 caliber Colt revolver. The Fiske report states, "the
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latent fingerprints can be destroyed due to exposure to heat."
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So if it was a real hot day, they are saying, the fingerprints
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could have melted off the gun. Yet they do not explain why,
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when they took the trigger guard off the gun, there was a
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fingerprint on it that had been on there probably for years. But the
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fingerprints that Vince Foster allegedly put on the gun were melted
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off. I went out to the site and walked all over that area. There is
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no sun that hits the place where they found his body. The sun could
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not have done that. Even on a hot day, it is very doubtful, according
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to forensic experts I talked to, that there would be no sign of any
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fingerprints on the gun, but it was completely smooth, no
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fingerprints on the gun, except a little bit on the trigger guard
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where they found his thumb. I do not know how you could hold a gun
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with on or both hands and not leave one fingerprint.
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In addition, the note that was found in Foster's briefcase
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was torn, as I said, in 27 pieces and had no prints. It was not
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exposed to the heat. So why were no fingerprints found on either
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the gun or the note? Makes no sense.
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There was no dirt on his shoes. There was a little bit of
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mica, but there was no dirt on his shoes. When Mr. Foster's clothing
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was examined by the FBI lab, "it did not contain any coherent soil."
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<19:30>
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They did find small parcels of mica, which is off of leaves,
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on much of Foster's clothing, including his shoes, which is consistent
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with the soil in Fort Marcy Park.
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The Fiske report states that it was dry on the day Foster died
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and that foliage leading up to and around Foster's body was dense.
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It concludes that "it was unlikely that there was a great deal of
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exposed moist soil in the park that would have soiled Foster's shoes."
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Foster would have had to walk a long way from his car to the
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second cannon. I walked all the way from the parking lot up to that
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second cannon, and it was a dry day and I had dust all over my shoes.
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It is about 300 yards.
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For them to say there was no dirt on his shoes does not make
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any sense, unless possibly he had been moved to that position. Even
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on a dry day his shoes would have been stained by either grass or dirt
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or at least dust. Why was no dirt or dust or grass found on his shoes?
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Now, there was blond to light brown hair that did not match Mr.
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Foster's hair found on his tee shirt, pants, belt, socks, and shoes.
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In response to a question from Robert Novak, Mr. Fiske said, "While we
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have not concluded where the blond hair came from, there is not evidence
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to suggest that it provides any evidence of circumstances connected to
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his death." How does he come to that kind of a conclusion?
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Carpet fibers of various colors were found on his jacket, tie,
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shirt, shorts, pants, belt, socks, and shoes. Did they check his
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office to see if the carpet fibers were off of his office carpet?
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Did they check his home to see if the carpet fibers were out of his
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home, and if they were not from either one of those places, where did
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those carpet fibers come from?
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It is not mentioned in the report. You just forget about that.
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Yet everybody, the media and everybody, is accepting this report at face
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value, even though the confidential witness that found the body said the
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hands were moved and so was the head.
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Why didn't Mr. Fiske attempt to find out who the blond hair
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belonged to? Why didn't Mr. Fiske attempt to determine where the carpet
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fibers and wool fibers found on Foster's body came from? Why would Mr.
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Fiske assume that this evidence was not relevant without investigating
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it first?
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Then 70 pages of the report are devoted to the credentials of
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the four forensic experts that wrote the report on Mr. Foster's death.
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They had four experts that wrote a report saying it was a suicide at
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Fort Marcy Park, but they based their conclusions, probably 90 percent
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of them, on the coroner's report.
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Now if the coroner made a mistake and he screwed up the report,
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then their report has to be questioned as well. Let us check on the
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coroner. He testified two days ago before the Senate.
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Fiske goes to great length to highlight the credentials of thee
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four pathologists, as I just mentioned. Their resumes take up 70 pages
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of the report. Yet none of these people ever saw Foster's body, because
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he had been dead and buried for 9 months before they wrote the report.
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Their findings were wholly reliant on Dr. James Beyer, northern
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Virginia's deputy medical examiner.
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He said that Vince Foster's death was consistent with a self-
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inflicted would, but according to the Washington Times, Dr. Beyer, to
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coroner, overlooked critical evidence in the 1989 Timothy Easley
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stabbing and supported a police finding that the death was a suicide.
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The death was later changed to murder -- homicide -- after an outside
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expert, Dr. Harry Bonnell, noted that Dr. Beyer's original report
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contained glaring errors, including a missing stab wound in the
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victim's hand where he was defending himself and getting the color
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of his hair wrong.
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The coroner did not even get the color of his hair right.
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This is the guy on which they are basing the entire forensic report
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of Vince Foster. The autopsy report said Tim Easley's hair was gray
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when his hair was dark brown.
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Regarding the stab wound in his hand, Dr. Bonnell said, "I
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cannot understand how any competent forensic pathologist would miss a
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stab wound in the hand." Dr. Beyer later said, "The cut on Easley's
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right hand was consistent with a needle mark," though he noted no such
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mark on his report. Forensic pathologists are supposed to make note of
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everything in their reports.
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Dr. Bonnell also said that it was doubtful that the Easley
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stab wound to the chest could have been self-inflicted. He said it
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could not have been self-inflicted, and yet the coroner said it was.
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Eventually, it was found out that Easley's girlfriend, Candy
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Wharton, was the killer, and she admitted stabbing Easley to death.
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So he missed it.
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He made a terrible mistake, and he missed very important
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things that any forensic expert would have found, according to Dr.
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Bonnell -- any competent expert.
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Then in December 1991, in another autopsy, Dr. Beyer ruled
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the death of Thomas Burkett, Jr., as "consistent with a self-inflicted
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wound," and this was a gunshot to the mouth, much like Vince Foster's.
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According to the New York Post, a second autopsy conducted by a Dr.
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Erik Mitchell detailed serious omissions in the Beyer autopsy.
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This second autopsy came after the family had the body exhumed.
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They dug him up. It noted trauma and discoloration to this gentleman's
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right ear, which could indicate he was beaten to death before the shot
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was fired into his mouth. His ear had been all smashed up, and at the
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funeral they noticed it and they thought he had been shot in the ear.
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But he had not been. He had been shot in the mouth.
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Burkett's family noted that the ear was so disfigured and
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bloody, they thought he had been shot there. Dr. Beyer never even
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mentioned the trauma to the man's ear in the report.
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Dr. Beyer also failed to identify a fractured lower jaw. His
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jaw was broken. He did not mention that in the report, which could
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also indicate a beating.
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The second autopsy also noted that Burkett's lungs had not been
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dissected, although the report said they had been. He said he did a
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complete autopsy, cut open the man's chest, checked his lungs. When
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they exhumed the body and did the second autopsy, they found he lied.
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He did not even do that. This is the man on whom they based their
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findings in the Vince Foster case.
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The second autopsy in this case also found no trace of gunpowder
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in the mouth, and Dr. Beyer said he inadvertently left the section
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for powder burns off the gunshot wound chart.
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So why did Mr. Fiske's pathologists base so much, if not all,
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of their report on the conclusions of a medical examiner who has been
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challenged in this past for flawed and erroneous autopsies? Why did Mr.
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Fiske's pathologists base so much of their report on the autopsy of a
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medical examiner who has a history of omitting important evidence from
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his autopsy reports?
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The Fiske report states that Dr. Beyer was unable to take x-
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rays of Mr. Foster's head because his x-ray machine was broken.
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However, the Park Police report, which was submitted last summer,
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quotes Dr. Beyer as stating that the x-rays of Mr. Foster's head
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indicated that there was no evidence of bullet fragments in his skull.
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Determining if there are bullet fragments in the skull is very
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important to determining how far the bullet would have traveled. Did
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Dr. Beyer take x-rays of Vince Foster's head or didn't he? At the
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Senate the other day, he said he did not, so why did he tell the Park
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Police he did? I don't know.
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Mr. Speaker, the security guards, directly, about 100 yards
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away from the place they found Vince Foster's body, across Chain Bridge
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Road -- there is the Saudi Arabian Ambassador's residence. There are
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five trained security guards there all the time. There are three that
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roam around, one in a van and one in a little security guardhouse there.
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Their people were there all the time. They even checked that
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park across the street occasionally, because they were concerned about
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somebody trying to get to the Saudi Arabian Ambassador, and they said
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that day they heard no gunshot. The Fiske report says that as a result
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of traffic out there and construction traffic, and because with a gun
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in the mouth in that position there would not have been a lot of noise.
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We, at my house, with a homicide detective, tried to re-create
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a head and fired a .38 cal barrel into that, to see if the sound could
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be heard from 100 yards away. Even though there was an earth mover
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moving around in the background, making all kinds of racket, you could
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hear the bullet clearly.
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Now, this is the information that I have used in the past. I
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went out to see the confidential witness, and when I showed him the
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picture, he was upset. He told me that rather than me writing down a
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statement for him to sign, he wanted to give me a statement in his own
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words. I let him dictate a statement to me in his own words and he
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signed it.
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I came back to this body and I gave my colleagues that signed
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statement. I did not give his name, because I promised I would keep
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his confidence. However, I read into the record what he said, and I
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sent it out to many people in the media.
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Mr. Speaker, some people said, "We don't know if Burton is
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credible or not, we do not know if he is making this up," so
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they started questioning whether or not I was just once again beating
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a dead horse.
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What did I do? I called the confidential witness there to get
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his sworn statement.
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So last Thursday night on July 28, I took two other Congressmen,
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Congressman DANA ROHRABACHER of California and Congressman JOHN MICA
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of Florida, with me, and we took a court reporter from the Block Court
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Reporting Services and we recorded 49 pages of statements from the
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confidential witness.
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So tonight, Mr. Speaker, I want to read into the RECORD
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excerpts from that which will verify everything that I have said.
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This man was sworn and he took an oath before God that what he is
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saying is absolutely correct.
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So we started off. I said, "Why don't we start off by reading
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into the record what you said?" Here is the confidential witness
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reading into the record:
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"Involving the statement about the gun in Vince Foster's hand,
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I made it very clear that the palms of his hands were facing up and at
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his sides. The agents investigating stated that the gun was hooked
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on his thumb and partially obscured by the back of his hand. Based on
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their explanation of how the gun was being held, I conceded that all
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that was visible -- that if all that was visible was the trigger guard
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on his thumb, and the dense foliage, that I could have missed seeing it.
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I again stated that I saw both of the man's palms, but did not count
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his fingers.
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"After having seen the photo of the hand and the gun, I am
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sure the hand had been moved, because the palms were both face up
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when I saw Mr. Foster's body."
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<19:40>
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Then I started questioning him as well as did Congressman
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ROHRABACHER and Congressman MICA.
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"Would you tell us how close you were to the body and how
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close you got to his face, his hand and everything else?"
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The confidential witness said, "I stood directly over the top
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of his head at the head of the berm. My right foot, I'm sure that it
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was my right foot, was somewhere between 24 and 30 inches from the top
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of his head. No closer. At that point, leaning over with my left foot
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extended behind me, I looked directly down into his eyes from about 3
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feet to 4 feet maximum above his face, my face from his."
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I said, "You were directly above him?"
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He said, "Directly above him, looking straight down the
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body. The man's head was facing straight up. If it was tilted, it
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was tilted very slightly because I looked into both eyes. I was
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questioned numerous times by the agents about are you sure the head
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wasn't tilted, and I kept telling, no, I looked straight down into
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both eyes. Do you want me to go on and explain what I saw?"
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I said, "Yeah. Go ahead and explain what you saw."
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He said, "I saw blood traces on his nose and around his lips.
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There was not streams of blood on the side of his face. There
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was not trickles of blood as indicated in the Foster report. I was
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looking straight down into the man's face and saw the blood." On his
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mouth and nose.
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Congressman Mica said, "Was there a gun in the hands?"
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The confidential witness says, "There was no gun in his hand.
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His -- both palms were face up, thumbs out to the side."
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Congressman MICA: "You did not see a gun?"
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He said, "I did not see a gun next to the body."
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Congressman MICA, "Did you touch the body or did you shake him?"
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The confidential witness said, "Oh, God, no. I wouldn't touch
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him for no amount. I mean, no way would I disturb evidence, period."
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Then I said, "I want you to look at this picture because you say
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you saw no gun in the hands."
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And I showed him once again the hand that was on ABC News, the
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picture.
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He said, "I also, when I saw nothing in his hands, I leaned to
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both sides of his head and to the back of his head to see if he had been
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hit in the head and saw nothing visible."
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Congressman MICA said, "Did you look at his hands again?"
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He says, "I did not look at his hands again because I clearly
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saw his hands were empty and he had no signs that he had, was defending
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himself or something."
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Then I said, "Now, you said -- what did you see beside the body?"
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He said, "There was a wine cooler bottle laying I would say 24
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to 30 inches to the right, between his shoulder and his elbow, laying
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on the berm but on the down side of the hill being held up by some twigs
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because it's a very steep grade."
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Then I said, "Was it sitting straight up or just laying on its
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side?"
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He says, "Laying sideways still probably one quarter of its
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contents in the bottle."
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Then Congressman MICA said, "Did you see -- you said the palms
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were out?"
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And the confidential witness said once again, "The palms were
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face up."
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I said, "Both? Both palms?"
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He said, "Right beside him neatly. Just like that."
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And he showed us, just like that.
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He said, "So that they were not in this position?" Congress
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MICA rolled his hands over.
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He said, "It was not in that position as all."
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Then I said, "Tell me about the picture. You -- the FBI --
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you asked the FBI what, about the picture, and the head?"
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The confidential witness said, "Numerous times."
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I said, "What did you ask them about the head and --"
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He said, "If you will show me the picture."
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This is what he said to the FBI agents.
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He said, "If you will show me the picture of the head and the
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picture of his hands that you said there was no gun in -- that I said
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there was no gun in and you said there was, then I could tell you point
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blank if somebody tampered with it, with Mr. Foster's body."
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Then I said, "What did they say when you asked them to see the
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pictures?"
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And this is what he said the FBI people said. "Well, it will
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jeopardize our investigation. I cannot show it to you at this time.
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We will be more than glad to show it to you when all this investigation
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is over and that was the common answer I got from the FBI every time."
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Then I said, "Over how long a period of time -- how many times
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did they say that to you?"
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He said, "4, 5 times I directly inquired, let me see the
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picture."
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They never let him see the picture of the hands.
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Congressman MICA said, "You have never seen this picture
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before?"
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The confidential witness said, "I had never seen that picture
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until the Congressman" -- that is me -- "handed it to me. Mr. Liddy
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had told me that that picture had been published somewhere but I had
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never seen it or I would have probably been -- I know I would have been
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screaming."
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Then I said, "So you were no more than 2 feet, 3 feet above his
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head?"
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He said, "I would say 2 to 3 feet. I had said 24 to 30 inches,
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my face was from his face."
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The he went on to say that he thought he had been there for a
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while because his clothes were very tight. There was a stain, just
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about like that, he showed me, on his shoulder.
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Congressman ROHRABACHER said, "What color?"
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He said, "On his right shoulder. It was a -- the stain on his
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shoulder was --"
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"Was it red? Or was it blood?" said Congressman ROHRABACHER.
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The confidential witness said, "No, it was very light purple,
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almost identical color of the wine cooler."
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I said, "So you don't think it was blood?"
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He said, "I do not think it was blood. In the very center of --
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it looked like he had thrown up on his right shoulder. In the very
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center there was one small speck area, probably no larger than a silver
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dollar that was black, that could have been blood in the very center of
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it."
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The reason I'm skipping through is there is a lot of repetition
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here because we kept asking the questions over to make sure that we had
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it correct.
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Congressman ROHRABACHER said, "Hold on. Let's make this point
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very clear. The FBI, when they were talking to you and when they kept
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going on, this question referred to the palm being up and the gun being
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underneath the palm?"
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The confidential witness says, "He, the FBI agent, demonstrated
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with his hand like this with his palm up."
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And he showed the palm to us like this and said that the
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trigger guard was on the thumb and the gun could have been obscured
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underneath the hand and that leaves might have been covering the thumb
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so he would not have seen the trigger guard.
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Congressman ROHRABACHER said, "So the question -- when they
|
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claim that you had in some way conceded that, well, maybe perhaps you
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||
didn't see it, if indeed it was below the palm, that was based on a
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description by the FBI that the palm was up and that the gun was
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underneath the back of the hand?"
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Then I said, "But it's not possible. Look at this."
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Because I had a gun and I put it on my thumb to show.
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Congressman ROHRABACHER said, "No. But that's not what this
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picture shows."
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The confidential witness said, "Exactly."
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Then I said, "But if the thumb is in there, look at this, you
|
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can't --"
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The Mr. ROHRABACHER said, "The more important part is that the
|
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FBI was describing something to him that was not --"
|
||
The confidential witness said, "Exactly right."
|
||
Then I asked him, "But in the report they say you believed that
|
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the palms were up, but you say there was no doubt?"
|
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He said, "I never said I believe it. I know it." That the
|
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palms were up.
|
||
Congressman ROHRABACHER said, "Okay."
|
||
Then the confidential witness says, "And he said the
|
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confidential witness believes it, and that's as straight as they
|
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can be."
|
||
Mr. MICA. "But you never indicated --"
|
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He said, "Otherwise, those palms were up always."
|
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Congressman MICA. "And both palms?"
|
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Confidential witness. "Both palms, neatly at his side and
|
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they were just like that."
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||
Congressman MICA. "With nothing in them?"
|
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He said, "Nothing in the hands."
|
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Congressman ROHRABACHER. "And when you made the concession to
|
||
the FBI after repeating that you didn't believe there was a gun in the
|
||
hand, over and over again, when you finally made the concession it was
|
||
based on a description by the FBI that the gun was found with -- the man
|
||
was found with has palms up and that gun was underneath the palm?"
|
||
He said, "That was all that would have been visible, was the
|
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trigger guard, would I have missed seeing a gun, with the dense
|
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foliage? If that being the case, it's possible I could have missed it."
|
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In other words, if it was only the trigger guard and if the
|
||
gun was obscured under the hand. But when we put the gun in the hand
|
||
in the position it was in in the picture and we rolled the hand over,
|
||
the butt of the gun was up or the gun was lying across the palm of the
|
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hand. You could not have missed it. It would have been impossible.
|
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And I do not know why Fiske did not check that out. A blind man could
|
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see it. Yet everybody is accepting this report at face value, saying
|
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it is a great report, and forensic experts are perfect, everything else
|
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is perfect and it is so full of holes you could not put water in it. It
|
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is terrible. It makes me sick.
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