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> ONLINE WEEKLY STReport OnLine The wires are a hummin'!
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PEOPLE "R" TALKING
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On CompuServe
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compiled by
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Joe Mirando
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Hello again friends and neighbors. I just had a wierd thought
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(another weird thought, actually). Wouldn't it really freak you out to
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find out that I was not a real person, but an interactive computer
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program that could scan the libraries here on CompuServe and winnow out
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the good stuff for you? Well, it might not freak _you_ out, but it
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_would_ freak my fiancee out (although I think she believes that I've had
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some sort of electronic implants already anyway).
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Well, at any rate, Thanksgiving is this coming week and Christmas is
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only a month after that. It looks like there will be a good supply of
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Jaguars (at least in New York and San Francisco) for the holidays. If
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someone had told me last year that Atari would have product available for
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Christmas I would have told them that they were nuts.
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Okay, enough of this. Let's get on with the reason we're here in
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the first place... the great information available every week here on
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Compuserve.
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From the Atari Productivity Forum
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Myles Cohen, one of the regulars here on CompuServe, asks:
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"Does anyone know how to diagnose and fix a cartridge port... It used
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to work until I did something that involved my scanner... which caused
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it to not work any more...
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Now everything on the MEGASTE works normally...except the
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fershlugginer cartridge port...
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I've already asked this...but never got an answer...And no...I can't
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take it to a repair shop...because I use it every day...and it works
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beautifully except for the two progs that use the port...one of which
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is Notator...even if I knew of a repair shop in my area...which I
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don't..."
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Sysop Bob Retelle tells Myles:
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"What happened with the scanner when the cartridge port stopped
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working..?
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I'm not sure if the cartridge lines are buffered electrically or
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not.. that would be a good place to start.
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There's also the possibility that the actual cartridge connector has
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been loosened from the motherboard traces. It might be a good idea to
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try resoldering the connections with a low-powered soldering pencil."
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Myles fills Bob in:
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"I don't know...but the scanner was the last thing I had plugged into
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the port when it stopped working...
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Not being a hardware person...I have no idea what that last sentence
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means...nor how to go about it..."
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Bob counts off a couple of possibilities for Myles:
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"If you remember the problems Brad has had with his ST, the trouble in
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both cases turned out to be an IC chip that goes between the
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sensitive internal cirtuitry of the computer and the "outside
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world"...
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The chip effectively "buffers" the computer from the static
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electricity, random voltage spikes on the telephone line, and all
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kinds of unfriendly influences like that.
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In many cases, these "buffer chips" will give their "lives" to
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protect the rest of the system from these things. Replacing them is
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generally a pretty easy operation, and the chips themselves are fairly
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common and inexpensive.
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It's almost like replacing a blown fuse.
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Now the ones Brad had trouble with were on the MIDI port and the
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RS-232 serial port.. I'm not sure if the cartridge port has similar
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"buffers" or not... it would be good electrical design to have them,
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but they do add to the cost of the computer. (I'll see if I can trace
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the lines on my 520 and try to tell if there's anything I can identify
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as buffering on the cartridge port).
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That's an electronic possibility... the other thing I mentioned is a
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"mechanical" possibility.
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In inserting and removing cartridges and other devices, there's a lot
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of physical force applied to the joints where the actual cartridge
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socket is soldered onto the computer's motherboard. Over time, that
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force can break the tiny solder bonds that make the electrical
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connections. Sometimes it will result in erratic operation as the
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board flexes and causes the connections to open and close, and other
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times it can just render the connector completely inoperative...
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(this is a common problem with most motherboard mounted connectors
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like joystick connectors and keyboard sockets).
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As long as there isn't any serious damage to the motherboard itself,
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the fix is to carefully re-solder the connections.
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Either solution (assuming that's the problem) will require some
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electronics expertise.. the buffer chips on the ST are all soldered
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to the motherboard, so replacing one is not just a matter of unpluging
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it from a socket.
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If you know anyone who's done electronics repair, it would be fairly
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simple for them to do for you... nothing is Atari specific, or
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requiring any special info. Any electronics repair shop could do the
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re-soldering or chip replacement if it turns out that's the solution."
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Myles gives us some more information about his predicament:
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"There are new developments...
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I've been on the phone with a distant...from me...electronix guru who
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listened to my tale of woe and suggested that I should use a
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multi-tester on the outside pins...first and last...of the cartridge
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port on the MEGASTE to see if there was conductivity...my reading
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showed zero...
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He then told me that the MegaSTE's cartridge port is protected a 1/2
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Amp microfuse narked F-121 and which can easily be found on the
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motherboard very close to the port...that all I had to do was to test
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it for conductivity...which if I got a zero reading needs to be
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replaced...I got a zero reading...
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Now all I have to do is find a 1/2 Amp microfuse to replace it...I
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guess that Best Electonics is my best bet...
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What a great diagnostician you turned out to be...Just look at the
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line on the top of this message that I quote from your pevious note..."
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Well Myles, good luck with your cartridge port problem... at one time or
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another, every computer owner has to deal with problems like this.
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Luckily, there are people like Bob Retelle to help the rest of us out.
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Meanwhile, Elaine Eedson asks about a program to make using CompuServe
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even easier:
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"Could anyone give me any information about navigation programs for
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Atari ST that are comparable to CIM. I'm looking for one that can be
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used and act like CIM."
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Jim Ness tells Elaine:
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"There are no CIM equivalents for the ST. CIM is a CompuServe
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product, and CompuServe has only made PC and Mac versions available.
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There also is no other similar program, in terms of navigating by
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Point-and-Click methods.
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There is QuickCIS, a true navigator program. QuickCIS quickly
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gathers all mail and messages for you, and then logs off. You read it
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all offline, and your replies can be posted on your next call.
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QuickCIS can be found in Library 4 here."
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Stefan Daystrom of Barefoot Software tells Elaine:
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"CIM itself is only available in IBM/compatible and Mac versions. If
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you _really_ need something _just like_ CIM, the only way on the Atari
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would be to run an IBM or Mac emulator (typically involving adding
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hardware).
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However, if you're paying for the use of your account, why spend time
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online "live", with _whatever_ user interface, when you can use an
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_automated_ navigator that'll log on, capture all the messages you're
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interested in, log off, let you read them and reply to them at any
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speed you want ("off the clock"), and then log on again for just a
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minute or two to upload all your replies? _That_ you can get for the
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Atari with QuickCis. (Also get QCMsg_II, an improved message reader
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that works with QuickCis. You _can_ you QuickCis by itself, but
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you'll have a lot more flexibility in reading and replying to messages
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if you use QCMsg_II with it.)
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An automated navigator such as QuickCis will cut your connect time
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with CompuServe _way_ down. If you have enough (offline!) time, you
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can then use that to expand to reading other areas of CompuServe that
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you might not have been able to afford if always using it "live".
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It'll also cut down the amount of time your phone line at home is tied
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up with modem calls..."
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Take it from me Elaine, QuickCis is the way to go!
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Now for "something completely different" from Rob Rasmussen:
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"My ST knows exactly what month/day/year and time it is even though I
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no longer have my DeskCart or any other clock installed! At least
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sometimes it does, right now for example. I have not set the clock in
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the XCONTROL panel (I hardly ever do). I turned my computer and hard
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drive on today (Megafile 60) and used the programs TouchUp, Prism
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Paint, PicSwitch, QuickCIS, EdHAK, Hotwire, Maxifile and maybe a few
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others. But nowhere did I set the time. When I noticed this the other
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day I thought later I'd imagined it! DeskCart used to be my time
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keeper, but I took it out a few months ago. The CALendar accessory
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also displays the correct month, day and year. This is really odd! I
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know some HD's have clocks - could it be retaining the time from when
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I used to have DeskCart? Somehow I don't think so but I have no other
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ideas. How can this possibly be happening?!! <g>
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Not that I'm complaining, I like not having to set the clock!"
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Sysop Bob Retelle tells Rob:
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"What kind of hard drive interface do you have..?
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Some of them have clocks built-in as an additional feature.
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The way these things work is that there has to be an external clock
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of some kind that keeps regular daily time... then when you boot up
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your ST, some kind of AUTO folder program has to read the time of day
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out of the external clock and put it into the ST's internal clock.
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(For example, I have a clock chip that hides in an IC socket that's
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installed under one of the TOS ROM chips in my ST... and an AUTO
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folder program that reads the time into the ST's internal clock at
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boot up..)
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If you *don't* have anything in your AUTO folder that would read the
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time out of something... and you *don't* have anything that would
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store the current time-of-day when your ST is turned off, maybe it's
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time to take it in for its 50,000 mile exorcism..."
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Rob tells Bob:
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"I don't know about the hard drive interface - the Megafile just plugs
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into the ST's hard drive port.
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My auto programs are Shadow, Warp 9, Desk Manager, Spooler, Codekeys,
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LGS, Hotwire and REGACC (for Lookit and Popit). Nothing I know of here
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that would set the clock. I used to have Codehead's CLOCKSET in the
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auto folder, but removed it when I took out DeskCart. Nowhere in the
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Megafile manual did I see mention of a clock. Totally strange!"
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Rob tells Bob about one interesting finding:
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"I just did a cold boot and after all the auto programs loaded, I
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checked the control panel, it was the wrong time (April, '89). I
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loaded a few other programs to see where this odd (but rather nice)
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time-keeping ability kicks in. Using QuickCIS to call Compuserve is
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what does it!!!!
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I made a Normal call, captured an announcement, a few messages and lib
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descriptions , then it logged off. The Xcontrol panel now displays
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the correct date and time! 7:31 AM 11/16/93. Any files I save are
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saved with the correct time. This is one bug that I consider a
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feature, but who can explain it? I know Hotwire has a clock, but other
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than calling CIS, nothing in my system could be retaining the time,
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unless it's the ghost of DeskCart. It resented being replaced by the
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scanner! Seriously, could CIS be setting my clock???"
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Jon Sanford tells Rob:
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"I think it is a feature of QuickCIS to set the system clock if it is
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off by more than a certain ammount. Amazing what little bits of info
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stick after reading a doc. 4 or 6 times...."
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Rob re-reads the documentation and tells Jon:
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"Well, you're right! There it is, kinda hidden in the docs :^}. How
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come I never knew about this? Maybe since I had the cartridge clock I
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ignored this nifty feature."
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Bob Retelle jumps in and adds:
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"Wow.. I knew QuickCIS was a good program, but this is pretty
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amazing..!
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Er.. that is.. Of course.. just another special little advantage of
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using CompuServe and QuickCIS.."
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Jim Ness, the creator of of QuickCis, tells us:
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"That was a feature requested by James Port. He had a 520ST with no
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clock, but wanted his .MSG files to have a real timestamp. So, I
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worked out a routine which compared the CIS time to the ST time, and
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if it was off by more than 24 hours the clock would be set to CIS
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time.
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The 24 hour deadband was to account for someone calling in at approx.
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midnight, or someone calling across a time zone or three."
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While on the subject of calling up an on-line service, Stefan Daystrom
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talks a bit about Alan Page's latest "baby", STORM:
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"This isn't exactly a bug, but I thought I'd point out one other
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problem with your 7-scanline med rez font besides readability (and it
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bothers me _more_ than the readability <grin!>):
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It makes Storm _slow_!!!!!
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Well, what it does is it makes graphics accelerators like TurboST
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which accelerate the stock fonts (in TurboST's case, 8x16, 8x8, and
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6x6) unable to kick in, thus reducing Storm to standard GEM speeds
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(which makes it seem real slow compared to Flash, which _does_ run at
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TurboST speeds).
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I recall reading a message where you said it you were planning to
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handle this by a special emulation; does that mean it could not be
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combined with other emulations? (On the other hand, do I still need
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to use Vidtex on CIS just to be able to download using CIS B
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protocols, as I did in Flash, or can I just use the same TTY emulation
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for CIS as I do for most BBSs I call? If the latter, then I'm less
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worried about it being a special TTY emulation that might use the 8X8
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font in med rez...)"
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Alan Page tells Stefan (and the rest of us):
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"Actually, ALL my GEM text is done using custom code, no matter what
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the font. Much of the speed comes from trying to update large blocks,
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rather than one character at a time. I thought it was rather fast,
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actually. CIS-B will work with any of the terminal emulations. I
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normally log on to CIS with VT100. VIDTEX, however, does have an
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option in the setup to switch to an 8 scanline font, with 21 lines in
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medium rez. Select "Emulations" in the Settings menu, click on VIDTEX,
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then click on Config. Warning: switching will erase the terminal
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screen! When I finally publish some source, people will be able to
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customize the emulations extensively, including the ability to use
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stock GEM text."
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Stefan Daystrom tells Alan:
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"Hm, I may have crossed circuits to jump to conclusions <grin / red
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face>!
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I don't have a 9600/14400 modem yet, so my sense of speed was not
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based on _online_ speed (I've never seen it get behind relative to the
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RD light on my modem, though it somehow _feels_ as if the pacing is
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different than I'm used to!) as much as the speed with which the
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window redraws when I flip between the capture buffer and terminal
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windows.
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But now that I look at it closer, the delay I see is probably just
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the window drawing white behind the text, when it's topped, before the
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text is drawn.
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If I'm spoiled by even _greater_ speed, I realize now that's it's
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from using QCMsg_II, which doesn't _need_ to redraw the window when I
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flip between messages, _only_ the text. So _obviously_ it's going to
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be faster since it has less to do!
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So you're right, the text is actually rather fast! Sorry for making
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assumptions..."
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From the Atari ST Arts Forum
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Shawn Laughnin asks:
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"Does the Atari require a special (i.e. Atari) joystick? I remember a
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time you could buy a host of generic joysticks in chain stores. Its
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been a while since I've noticed them ."
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Sysop Bob Retelle tells Shawn:
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"Yup, the "Atari Joystick" is a thing of the past, just like most
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things Atari..
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Used to be any joystick had to be "Atari compatible"... now they're
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all Nintendo.. I wonder why that is..."
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Master Sysop Ron Luks adds his own thoughts:
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"Yes, the Atari uses a special joystick. There used to be scads of
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different brands of joysticks that worked on your atari (anything that
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used to be compatible with the former industry standard Atari 2600
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game machine and 8-bit computers) but these are becoming hard to
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find."
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Rob Rasmussen asks about "doing" graphics with some of the whiz-bang
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graphics packages out there:
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"...The positioning of 16 colors/shades of gray in the palette - that's
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what I don't get. I'm used to coming from the other direction, where I
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create a picture in Prism Paint, starting on a blank screen with
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default colors in the palette which I can change. But how does a
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scanned picture, or the software TouchUp, decide which position in the
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palette a gray, black or white will be? Even if I can use the feature
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in Degas Elite and PP that maps the colors gradually between any two,
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I'm still stuck with maybe 2 objects on the screen that I want to be
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different colors, but they can't be because they're in the same
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palette position. If I scan a picture lighter, there may be more
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shades of gray and maybe certain pixels would be in different pal
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positions, but the picture looks undefined with not enough detail.
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I saved some scans as GIFs, others as PC1. I only have a color
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monitor. When I try to load a GIF, I get a dialog with a 'gray scale'
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button (using this makes everything too dark) and the dimensions of
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the GIF which I find will not fit on the screen. Other scans will all
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fit on the screen. It looks like the GIF really is just the top of the
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scan - there is no way to scroll or print it. Any comments anyone?
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This really is all a puzzle I hope to understand one day!"
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Lee Seiler of Lexicore Software tells Rob:
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"First install EP10 so you have access to 4096 colors, Next use Prism
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Paint for the whole job. Hold the Alt Key when booting to get the
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Grey scale Select dialog. Then, when you load the color pic it will
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auto Grey scale, the machine pallet will also have the correct Grey
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scales auto set. Now when you save out as a PI file it will be in 8
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grey scales including the required desk top reserved pallet."
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Rob asks for clarification:
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"I have an ST, not an STE. I thought I was limited to 512 colors. What
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is EP10 and where can I get it? If I can get 4096 colors then this is
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incredible!"
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Lee explains to Rob:
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"Many, many ST owners have installed the video shifter from JRI but
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never realized that the 4096 colors were not always there, this is
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also the case with the STE, Mega STE, and TT. Many programs which
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could use the 4096 don't, due to a little tic in the OS, EP10 deals
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with this problem and while no difference is apparent, things like GIF
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and Spectrum Images are much richer and look better because you see
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"Better or More correctly matched colors" and with software that does
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access the full 4096 you see a slight increase in speed, or so I am
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told.
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You get EP10 Free with all Lexicor purchases, we put it on all
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current Utilitiy and resource disk sold with Lexicor products."
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Rob tells Lee:
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"I looked for EP10 on my Lexicor disks, but those are older programs,
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so I guess it wasn't included. You mentioned the JRI video shifter -
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is this required for an older ST to get 4096 colors? I would LOVE to
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have more screen colors than 512 to choose from. Often I want colors
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that are between 2 available ones that are right next to each other.
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The picture I'm starting out with is a mono IMG and PI3. Is this what
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I could gray scale before converting to low rez PNT or PI1 ? If I can
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do this on an ST with EP10, then I'll need to get that or something
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similar."
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Lee explains exactly what is needed:
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"Yes and no.
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You do need the JRI hardware first, if you have the STE, the 4096 are
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there but unaccesable. EP10 fixes the bug for all 4096 systems no
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matter how it happens. If you are using the PI3 you should be able to
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load it into a grey scale Prism paint mode of at least 16 shades of
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grey.
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This then is saved as a Gif which can then be reloaded into a color
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Gif which you can then reset from grey to color and save as color.
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EP10 is in all our libs as far as I know, knock on Ringo's door and
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ask him to point you at it or E-Mail it to you."
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Mike Myers asks Sysop Ron Luks about converting Atari files over to
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DOS (I know, I know, I've mentioned this a lot... but the question
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keeps getting asked, so I guess that not everyone reads this column
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all the time [and you know who you are]):
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"Is there a program available which will allow the conversion of ATARI
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ST .lzh files to IBM .gif files / .jpg files and back? I have an IBM
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and a friend has a ST. We have looked in the forums under viewers,
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utilities, and anything else we could think of."
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Before Ron can answer, Sysop Bob Retelle tells Mike:
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"There should be a conversion program that will run on an ST and
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convert DEGAS format pictures to GIF, which your friend could display
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on his IBM..
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It's been a looong time since I remember seeing it, but I think its
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filename was something like CNV2GIF. There should also be something
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similar that will convert Spectrum 512 pictures to GIF format too, but
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the name of that one eludes me at this moment.
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As for converting the other way, there shouldn't be a need to convert
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GIFs and JPGs, since we have some pretty good viewer programs for the
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ST for those graphics formats."
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Ron Luks tells Mike:
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"LZH is a compression method. GIF is a picture file format.
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There is an LZH utility for the PC. (LZH files are created/processed
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witha utility called LHARC). Think of LZH as another type of ARC or
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ZIP files. GIF is a graphics picture format like TIFF, or PCX, etc.
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One has nothing to do with the other.
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I dont know of any JPEG utilities for the Atari ST."
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Boris Molodyi jumps in and adds:
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"As I recall, GEMVIEW loads JPEG files (and so you can save them in
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different format). Also, Studio Photo from Compo can load JPEG pics."
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A column containing both the words "Atari" and "Graphics" wouldn't be
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complete without mentioning the Jaguar, Atari's hot new video game
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machine. Bob Retelle posts:
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"One thing I've been wondering though.. since Atari has said virtually
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nothing concrete about the Jaguar beyond the official Press Releases,
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and about the only other source of real information was the Press
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conference they held recently in New York, just what exactly is all
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the "Jaguar talk" you mentioned about..?
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There's a "lot of Jaguar talk" on the InterNet newsgroups too... but
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most of it is just rumors and unfounded speculation, along with the
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"3DO vs Jaguar" flaming that never gets anywhere...
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Jaguar developers are under NonDisclosure Agreements, so they can't
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say anything, and the only other source of Jaguar "news" has been
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leaks from some of the companies working on games.
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It just seems that "a lot of Jaguar talk" would be pretty useless
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until we actually get to see and use the machines themselves... once
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that happens, I'm sure the areas here will pick up.."
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John Brenner tells Bob:
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"All the Jaguar talk on GEnie is trivial. Everone asking eachother if
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they saw the commercial. How great it looks. How well it is being
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marketed. Which store chain has confirmed if they are going to carry
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it. There is also some people talking about having ordered one and
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that some stores have already pre-sold hundreds of units. It's like a
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bunch of sports fans rallying around a sports team. Talking about the
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new uniforms, or the new stadium. No better, no worse. I have no
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interest in such things, but I have not bothered Ignoring permanently
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that CAT. Perhaps because I enjoy looking at so many happy people."
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From the Atari Vendor's Forum
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Rafael Hermoso asks:
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"Is Neodesk 4 out yet? If not, when? If so, where can I purchase it?"
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Rick Flashman of Gribnif Software tells Rafael:
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"No, NeoDesk 4 is not out yet. We've been forced to delay its
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shipping until early '94. Part of this delay was that we wanted to
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insure that Geneva was as bug-free as possible and that we had
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resolved any minor issued that might have arisen as of its initial
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release. We now believe this strategy has paid off, as we've been
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able to correct some minor problems with Geneva (that only showed up
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after shipping) and therefore we now have a substancially more solid
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package."
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John Brenner tells us:
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"After many years I am still using INTERLINK to do any BBS'ing
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outside of GEnie. I have just D/L a file on this system and did
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not remember how slow XMODEM transfer was. Are there any Interlink
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TXF files in the libraries that support the other protocals available
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on Compuserve. And which one is most recommended?"
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Jim Ness nudges John about "getting with it":
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"Geez, John, with all the terrific ST terminal programs out there, you
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are still using good old Interlink? There's Flash II, STalker, and
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now the shareware gem STorm...
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All three of those support CIS B and ymodem-g, the two fastest
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protocols."
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John tells Jim:
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"I used to have Flash before I got Interlink many years ago. I never
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looked at Flash II since I never liked Flash to begin with. I D/L
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STorm last week. I also dont' like very much the way it is set up.
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I have a friend who uses STalker. He has to buy another program to
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do on-line editing. So, I just don't see the need to change. I have
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a capture buffer, I can edit, save paste...everything I need.
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I use Alladin, you know where, and now it looks like I will use
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QuickCIS to log on here. So I really don't see why I should change.
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I only upgrade software that no longer suits my needs.
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I was starting to think I might need something for here since I
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couldn't get QuickCIS to dial, but all has now fallen into place
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and I think I'll be very happy with it. Thanks for writting it.
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I'll have to read the doc....there must be a fee for something
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that will save me so much money! <Grin>"
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From the Palmtop Forum
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======================
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Kent Peterson pats the Compuserve Sysops' proficiency at getting new
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files (like Kent's new programming language) "up and ready":
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"You guys are a lot faster than the sysops of some other forums. BTW,
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the HP folks seem to be going into a download frenzy on this little
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bit of Port technology, I decided to cast their way. Did you ever post
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PBASIC over there?"
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We're still waiting for and answer from BJ... that kind of negates
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the compliment in the first place, doesn't it?...
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Don Thomas of Atari Corp posts:
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"Every once in a while I am beginning to see messages in langauages
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other than English... German, for instance. It sure would be cool if
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CIS had some sort of translation process built-in... either on demand
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or automatically."
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Sysop BJ Gleason tells Don:
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"As a person who has done a lot of work with Natural Language
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Processing and such, it is a very tough, if not impossible task. One
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|
of the best jokes about it is:
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A program translates from russian to english and back. The
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program puts in the phrase:
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"The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."
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It is translated to russian, and then the russian is fed back
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|
and the translation comes back as:
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"The wine is good but the meat is spoiled."
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Back on the subject of the Jaguar again, Don Thomas tells us:
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"I stopped by an Electronics Boutique this past weekend in Pleasanton,
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|
CA (40-50 miles East of San Francisco). I pretended to be Joe Blow
|
|
consumer and observed two 3DO systems on a shelf. The salesman said
|
|
they are not selling well, BUT he would love to take my pre-order for
|
|
the Jaguar. He said he didn't know what game came with it or how many
|
|
controllers, but that he couldn't find an end to the waiting list the
|
|
store had established for the Jaguar. It felt good.
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|
|
My son even said this past Friday without me asking that all the kids
|
|
at school were talking about the Jaguar (he's ten). He told me that he
|
|
felt good telling his friends that his Dad worked at Atari."
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|
Well folks, I intended to use use information on other palmtops in
|
|
this column but, as usual, I've run out of room.
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|
So c'mon back next week and see what else I can shoe-horn into this
|
|
column. Just think of it as some little sports bar somewhere in Boston.
|
|
A place where... oh heck, I've gone this far. I'd might as well say
|
|
it... A place where everybody knows your name. It's easy to just leave
|
|
your troubles at the door for a while and absorb some of the hints, tips,
|
|
and information available on CompuServe. But if you don't subscribe to
|
|
CompuServe, this column is the next-best thing. Just make sure that you
|
|
remember to listen to what they are saying
|
|
when...
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PEOPLE ARE TALKING
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