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From the Jason Scott / TEXTFILES.COM Printout Collection
These are original linefeed printouts fed through a Optical Character
Recognition system, with hand-editing done afterwards to clean issues
with text rearrangement and OCR errors.
The printouts are from a collection dating from 1983-1985, and were
generally made on an Epson MX-80 Dot-Matrix printer connected to an
IBM PC-XT. The Bulletin Board Systems and other services were located
throughout the United States, and captured by Jason Scott, who can
attest to their authenticity.
Spelling errors, content and extraneous system information such as
prompts and menu items have been left untouched. Errors and other
artifacts of conversion to this format should be considered in
determining the validity or historical context of statements in these
printouts.
Description: Posts to the Private Sector BBS (New Jersey)
Date: May, 1985 (System was seized two months later)
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Numb: 1
Title:Broadway Show
From: BROADWAY HACKER
Date: 05-02-85 Time:03:33
Broadway Show *Elite*
718-615-0580
Broadway Hacker sysop
later,
BH
Numb: 2
Title:The Prophet / Reverse Polarity
From: T E BURNS
Date: 05-02-85 Time:09:59
With reference to "POLARITY REVERSE" this technology is over 50 years old and
refers to a UL. class A (hard wire) off- premises monitored alarm system
architecture which is still used by some central alarm companies in North
America. The system is is still underwriters approved and is loosely known as
the McCullah Loop System. In a McCullah system 130 volt dc. station battery
is imposed on a direct connect leased Telco loop between the central station
and say a bank. There are three states of alarm transmitted in this system.
The first is in the banks daytime protection circuit (the circuit which is
always on when the alarm is turned off by the employees. This circuit will
immediately alarm if any wire is cut, foil scratched, motion detector tampered
with etc. during the normal business day.) The second state is an open Telco
loop this reports failure of the dedicated circuit (either caused by attempt to
compromise the premises from outside or more frequently a goof by Telco
employees at the CO or or out on the cable plant.) The third state is a
legitimate alarm triggered by say a burglar (this causes an immediate and
irrevocable "Polarity Reverse" of the 130 Vdc. loop which is connected to a
bridge circuit at the central alarm monitoring station.)
Obviously there is more to this type of system but one must remember that in
small towns where there is no monitoring station nearby the Telco leased
continuous all metallic dedicated loop is excessively expensive and therefore
thousands of municipal police & fire forces have historically and still do
monitor local alarms. If a cable company wishes to send alarms to a these
facilities they almost always have to send the data in a McCullah format as
most of the police operated alarm boards were set up many years ago.
Understanding the old systems and their digital counterparts is one thing,
however attempting to hack such systems only results in the unnecessary and
dangerous response which police or fire crews accept when driving to an alarm
site.
Bye
Numb: 3
Title:title of my bulletin
From: THE SHADOW
Date: 05-02-85 Time:15:06
>>>ALLIANCE ARTICLE
====================
dont worry Demon, you will get credit in the article. however, some of your
info was, lets not get into this. have a LOT of info that most of the world
hasn't seen yet (yes, even you Demon, the -1500 nad -2500 are loaded) stay
tuned, i'll start dumping it as soon as its organized and written.
>>>US NEWS AND WORLD REPORTS
============================
folks, look for an upcoming (about 2nd week of May) article in US News...
will be on the "computer underground" Manny, the author, said he was finishing
it up yesterday. by the way, he is on this BBB, not sure of his handle, think
its "MANNY'S GHOST" so if you need to contact him go for it (if it isnt,
contact me, and i'll get you through to him)
>>>ABOUT DIALING 0 FROM PBX`S
=============================
not every PBX lets you dial a 0 (the one at my high school for instance)
also, folks, could you do me a favor? dial Alliance direct from your homes (if
out of 201) dial 0-700-456-1500 or -2500. not every area code allows access
this, i juant to find which ones. dont w billing shouldnt start until you add
some one (according to AT&T)
>>>2600 NEWS FLASH
==================
found this in the May 1985 "Today" magazine, page 10.
"Crackers in at least three major cities have been blamed for a $60,000 phone
bill that was sent to a Californian man whose stolen credit card number was
apparently posted on an underground network of computer bullitan boards.
Officials with GTE-Sprint Communications Corp. told the Associated Press that
computer vandals (vandals? huh? they didnt vandalize computers!) in Atlanta,
Baltimore, and New York used the Sprint number of Robert Bocek of Campbell
California to charge more than 250,000 minutes of calls in two months (wow!)
Sprint spokesman Mike Furtney said "an investigation is under way" with law
enforcement officials in the three East Coast cities and at least seven others.
Bocek's mid-December bill ran 722 pages and listed 17,311 calls. the total for
the 256,697 minutes on the bill came to $ 55,562.27, not counting an $8,197
"volume discount"
>>>COMMENTARY
=============
wow, thats one of the largest. but now my real commentary. "computer
vandals" "crackers" ahem, news media of the world, what you seem to have are
neither. merely telcom criminals. computers MERELY were the method employed,
just as if it were distributed via phone calls or US Mail. "computer vandals"
had nothing intrinsically to do with it, what if they used a car to drive to
the pay phone are they car theives? (its their car, just as if it was their
computer. also, vandalism has NOTHING to do with it. i assume computer
vandalism means wrecking computers with sledge hammers or spraypainting
mctiitors. this is another example of how the mass media's yellow journalism
goes for the sensationalist. Manny, you better get it right.
>>>414 BUST
===========
rumors of a BIG bust in 414 involving the Wizard, Phoenix, and MANY other big
phreaks seem to have been substantuated. Manny (the reporter) read me an
Associated Press news wire saying that 6 people got busted in Wizard's home
town last Thursday. the World of Cryton BBS was indirectly mentioned as an
"underground BBS" the crime they busted them for was credit card fraud and some
telcom offenses. even worse is that the Secret Service (yes, secret service,
what do they have to do with CC fraud?) said they are continuing their
investigation in several cities, and named some that i know World of Cryton
Elite live in. this could be a BIG bust. Manny, retype the thing up on the
BBS. he also had somethino about COSMOS sysop Timelord's bust.
shadow 2600
Numb: 4
Title:Cryton
From: MODEM RIDER
Date: 05-02-85 Time:16:17
I spoke with 414 Wizard about what happened to Cryton 48hrs after it went
down. he was involved with locals for carding stuff. They got caught, and
turned in wiz. the Feds (6 Secret Service, 2 Local) came to his house,
Confiscated everytying, computer,disks,printouts, whatever was lying around.
Including a Stereo I believe. They didn't know the board was there till they
got there, or until they started looking around on the disks they took. There
is alot of rumours going around about what went down. Phoenix was running The
Philter, and wasn't busted/involved YET. Ummm .. that's about all I am at
liberty to say as of the moment. Stay tuned ...
NYSHII - what a joke, Line Breaker doesn't know his xxx (dunno if this is that
type of board) from his xxx
Modem
Rider
Numb: 5
Title:need vax hacker
From: MICKEY MOUSE
Date: 05-02-85 Time:19:51
Hi Phriends:
I have found out that the grades for the computer course I am taking in
college are stored on a VAX system that has a dialup. I do not really know
much about the VAX system but I do know that it is supposed to be a fairly easy
system to hack. If there is anybody out there who is very confident that they
would be able to get into a particular account of this VAX system for me,
please let me know. Please contact me as soon as possible....this is really
important!!
Mickey
Numb: 6
Title:Dragon Dregs
From: FLYING DRAGON
Date: 05-02-85 Time:20:46
I must ask that everyone excuse the fact that I haven't posted anything
worthwhile for a LONG time. Fact is, there's a lot of tests etc. going on and
I must study to keep up that GPA! However, I would like to ask your help. All
of you (the ones who post, that is) are hereby invited to drop by 516 549 0268.
Leave the message that your're around to me, and I'll pop you on to an ELITE
board. Problem is, you must go through me. Hope some of you experienced
people will drop by! The board is multi user, 30 meg, catsend/AE, G-files, and
Best Of Private Sector III (yes, I and II will be here soon, I'm afraid the DOS
files are lost and I must ADOSXFER down from CP/M to send it through AEPRO), a
phile on various stuff, including :
John Draper information (Captain Cruch to everyone else) PRIMOS, PRIME
800/850 mini's Pure Telephony (how it really works) and other neat things. I
know shadow is also going to start work on Best of Private Sector (and he'll
probably get published in 2600. oh well) becuase I've sent him the past 6
months of messages in the mail. Anyone who would like to contribute, please
email. You'll see some more Dragon stuff. certainly tonnes of neat stuff...in
the summer. Well, hang out for two weeks, and I'll show these upstarts (joke,
joke!). Keep those networks open!
Flying Dragon
Numb: 7
Title:Remob's...
From: FOREST RANGER
Date: 05-03-85 Time:07:07
Demon, and whomever it may concern,
By all means "Remob's" exsist! I don'tknow where you got your information,
bu t i recieved mine for Ma Bell security. Remob's have been round since the
Vietnam war. The public finally caught sight of it in 1974 when a Bell
Employee was caught listening in on a goverment offic als line. A Remob does
have a two digit identification code. Many Remob's were dissconected and never
used again, but Remob's do exsist today and can still be found! You just have
used again, but Remob's do exsist today and can still be found! You just have
to know where to look. If you do pick up a Remob just, remeber you will be
violating Federal Law . This isn't like a felony.
Forest Ranger
Numb: 8
Title:P.L. 98-473 FRAUD & RELATED
From: T E BURNS
Date: 05-03-85 Time:11:31
Reprint of article from security BBS 05/02/85
--> Outline of New Computer Law
PUBLIC LAW 98-473, CHAPTER XXI
NEW SECTION 1030, TITLE 18 USC.
*****************************************
Fraud and related activity in connection with computers.
(A) Whoever - without or in excess of authority
1. knowingly accesses a computer and obtains, with intent to injure the U.S.
or aid a foreign nation, classified info (NSI) or restricted data (RD),
2. knowingly accesses a computer and obtains financial privacy data or
consumer credit privacy data,
3. knowingly accesses a computer operated by/for U.S. government, adversely
affecting U.S. government operations through
use/modification/destruction, disclosure of contained info or prevention
authorized use, shall be punished IAW (C). No offense under (2) or (3)
if the access was authorized for other purposes and was simply use of the
computer (e.g., for games).
(B)(1) Attempts to commit acts cited in (A) shall be punished IAW (C).
(2) Conspiracy to commit an act cited in (A), if furthered by any
conspirator, gets each fines < max provided in (C) prison < 1/2 max
provided in para (C) or both.
(C) Punishments for acts or attempted acts
(1) (A) involving NSI or RD first offence fine <$10K or 2x value prison <10
years or both,
(B) involving NSI or RD 2D offense fine <$100K or 2x value prison <20 years
or both,
(2) (A) involving financial/consumer data or government computer 1st offense
fine <$5K or 2x value prison <1 year or both,
(B) involving financial/consumer data or government computer 2D offense fine
<$10K or 2x value prison <20 yrs or both.
(D) US Secret Service shall investigate offesnes under this act, IAW
agreements between treasury and Attorney General.
(E) Computer means: electronic, magnetic, optical, electrochemical, or other
high speed data processing devices performing logical, arthimetic or
storage functions, and includes any data storage facility related to or
operating with such devices. Does not include automated typewriters or
typesetters, portable hand calculators or similar devices.
Copies of the full text of the act should be obtained from your library
for thorough study.
All for now. Be careful out there.
Numb: 9
Title:hot news
From: MANNY SCHIFFRES
Date: 05-03-85 Time:13:01
Ok folks, since the Shadow told the world what I was up to, I thought I'd at
least do him the favor of posting some of the articles he mentioned...parts of
them anyway, since they're long and I gotta do reall work for a living The Big
story:
MILWAUKEE (AP)--Six students have been arrested by the U.S. Secret Service
for taking part in a nationwide scheme by computers hackers to obtain thousands
of dollars worth of computer goods and services with stolen credit-card numbers
it was reported Monday. A computer security consultant from Detroit told the
Milwaukee Journal that similar arrests have taken plance or are likely to take
place within a few days in Detroit, Seattle, LA, Chicago and Memplhis. A
computer bulletin board operated out of Milwaukee, the consultant said, was the
World kof LCryton, and contained the stolen credit card numbers... The scam
ilnvolved purchasing thousands of dollars worth of computer-related equlipment,
which was sent to a mail box rental service in LWaukesha. In March, the
LSecret Service installed a video camera to monitor pickups from the box.
Another good story:
LOS ANGELES (UPI)--A computer whiz signing his death threats "Modem Maniac"
has been electronically terrorizing another computer buff in an apparent
attempt to extort money, investigators say. "We can make your life unfit for
living," the hacker, who at various times lhas identified himself as Modem
Maniac, Lord LDragon and Bon Bon Man, said on the home screen of John Sands, a
record industry employe hwo lives lin Encino. Unless Sand paid the
extortionist $350, "then believe me you will spend more than $350 repairing
broken windows, broken bones, crashed homes."
OK, as far as Shadow's invitation for all you guys to call me, I don't mind
it as long as I'm not plressed with something else and as long as it's not to
my home. That's because it pisses my wife off. She thinks I already spend too
much time on the computer: she doesn't want me to have to spend hours more on
the phone with hackers and plhreakers.
One other thing, if any sysop of a good board wants to invite me infor a
look, let me know. It's plrobably too late for my article, unless I find
something fantastic, but it'll still hepl my understanding of all this stuff
(or is it stuph). So long
Numb: 10
Title:Cracker???
From: THE PROPHET
Date: 05-03-85 Time:14:03
Read something of interest in Monitor on Compuserve today. Seem they got a
15 year old "Cracker" in California. Another evil computer conspirator
caught!....Here is the funny part, He was arrested for pocession of stolen
property (not computers either) Also was found materials for making explosives.
he was already on probation for "Going on a BB gun rampage" last Febuary. In
his room was found (you guessed it!) A computer! The question is, How does
that make him a "computer cracker"? Nothing he did had anything to do with a
computer!!!!!! There is no way this should be "Computer related news!!!" This is
getting ridiculous!! Anyone committing any crime and who owns a computer is
now a "Computer Cracker" in the eyes of the public! It is time to educate the
media! I believe I saw this qoute here "Computer + teenager= crime in the eye
of the public. -Note- I noticed Nanny's message Manny, Make sure you get the
point accross in your article that everyone with a computer is NOT a
criminal.... If they are convicted of DWI and own a computer, they are not
computer criminals. Just wanted to set things straight.
Later Daze
*The Prophet*
Numb: 11
Title:PBX..ETC NOTES.
From: RASSELON
Date: 05-03-85 Time:19:24
HELLO ALL....
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS..
I'VE TRIED THE LOOP TRICK TO GET A BETTER CONNECTION ON THE PBX-ALLIANCE
SITUATION, AND IT SHOULD THEORETICALLY WORK... BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THAT WHEN I
TRIED DIALING 6 TO XFER CONTROL, IT GAVE 'CANNOT XFER CONTROL AT THIS TIME'
MSG.... DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HOURS OR SOMETHING? THE # I TRIED TO XFER
TO ??? WE CONCLUDED THAT THEY'D OBVIOUSLY HAVE RECORD OF WHO CONTROL WAS
XFERRED TO, SO DON'T GIVE CONTROL TO FRIENDS, OF COURSE. NOW.. IF YOU WANT TO
DOG AN ENEMY WITH SOME OVERSEAS CALL BILLS...
ALSO,, A GOOD METHOD IS FOR SOMEONE WITH 3-WAY TO START THE CONF., AND ADD
THEIR OTHER LINE (DON'T NEED 3-WAY, JUST 2 LINES.. DUN...). ADD MORE WITH THE
BAD CONNECTION, TALK ON THE GOOD 1.
WHAT WE NEED NOW ARE GOOD PBX CODES!! POST SOME, OR LEAVE ME MAIL TO TRADE
INFO... I'VE A GOOD DEAL OF IT. PREFERABLY 800# PBX'S... GOING THRU SPRINT,
THEN A PBX, THEN ALLIANCE, AND THEN TO THE PEOPLE IS A DAMN BAD CONNECTION!!
ANOTHER THING... ANY HARD-CORE HACKERS OUT THERE LOOKING FOR ACTION? I HAD
AN HP3000 IN MIND... POSSIBLE REWARDS.
DROP ME A LINE.
ALSO, SEE MY POST ON THE TRASH IN' BOARD
BYE FOR NOW...........
...... RASSELON.
Numb: 12
Title:REMOB
From: THE ARCHIMAGE
Date: 05-03-85 Time:20:37
Well, Forest Ranger, you were right, REMOBs do exist. In fact, I got one
last night from a Telco trash run. Got some other stuph, too, but I'll have to
check it out. Anyway, back to REMOBs. I dunno if I should post the number,
but, what the hell, I like to live dangerously (Famous last words!) Oh yeah,
the number: 201-762-9924. It's got a 2-dig code. Play around with it, if you
feel lucky, and leave mail.
Later,
The
Archimage
Bye!
Numb: 13
Title:TO RASSELON
From: MODEM RIDER
Date: 05-03-85 Time:22:49
Rass - That HP-3000 had BETTER NOT Be DATANET ... don't FUCK WITH IT or we
will lose it.
If you switch control on a conference the bill stays to the original number,
so you can't fuck people over by switching control to them.
Sorry if this msg sounds angry but when people fuck with a system that was
put up for PUBLIC use it pisses me off.
Rasselon, don't be surprised if your Datanet Acct is gone tommorrow.
For those who wish to see the system, 215-563-9211 300 baud 215-563-9815 1200
baud Login HELLO GUEST.DATANET0:TERM=9
Type F)eedback from Main Menu to apply for an account.
Modem Rider
Numb: 14
Title:alliance aricle FINISHED
From: THE SHADOW
Date: 05-04-85 Time:04:01
FINALLY my damn Alliance article is finished after two disk crashes, had to
sector edit the damn catalog track back together on two disks. expect to see
stuff soon (damn, he keeps saying that) just too tired now.
>>>REMOBS
=========
ahem, Forest Ranget and Archmage, i need better examples. that number you
gave me (201-762-9924) is what is INCORRECTLY called a REMOB. if your trash
called it SPECIFICALLY a REMOB, let me know., folks, call it, there are
MILLIONS of those kind of test number, in 201 just look -9924. Forest Ranger,
could you stop giving that dodge about "Senate subcommittes" and "telco
employees being caught doing it" its always labeled as happening in "1970's" i
havent find this info anywhere except in peoples claims. PLEASE prove me
wrong, but give me HARD info to prove me wrong. we all are big boys and girls
here, we can take a REMOB. (Arch, try 9,2, and 3)
Numb: 15
Title:Shadow...
From: FOREST RANGER
Date: 05-04-85 Time:13:38
Shadow,
Yoold me you were on those Elite BBS's that i mentioned in our telephone..
conversation, well why don't you ask some Old Phreaks such as King Blotto, Bioc
, Cpt. Zap. You know i can't give you hard evidence, but neither can you.
All i can do is direct you to people that have used Remob's in succesion. Your
case against Remob`s is worse than mine at this time. You are simply throwing
acusat ions at me like i am to you. I talked with an employee at Bell who said
there w ere Remob's. I can not give you hardcoreevidence, but please get in
contact wit h one of the Old Phreaks mentioned above. Thank you.
Forest Ranger
Board 1:R
Numb: 16
Title:PLEASE
From: APPLE MAN
Date: 05-04-85 Time:20;03
RIGHT NOW I ONLY HAVE ONE WORKING PBX THAT I CAN DIAL ALLIANCE FROM....I AM
IN NEED OF SOME MORE...ANYONE LEAVE IN E-MAIL WILL BE REWARDED WITH SOME GOOD
INFO..JUST ASK AND YOU SHALL RECIEVE.. STUFF LIKE PW'S TO
TRW,SOURCE,COMPUSERVE....AND OTHER PHREAK INFO, LIKE CERTAIN KEYS THAT HAVE
BEEN ADDED TO AT&T'S ALLIANCE TELECONFERENCING...NOT TOO WELL KNOWN, BUT ARE
AWESOME TO USE ON A CONFERENCE...PLUS INFO ON CONFERENCING,NOT ALLIANCE BUT
DIFFERENT...ALSO, ABOUT REMOBS...WELL, MY DAD WORKS FOR PAC-TEL, AND HE SAID
THEY DEFINITELY DO EXIST....AND HE SHOULD KNOW....ALSO, IT SEEMS BELL IS
BECOMING MORE AWARE OF US TRASHERS...IT SEEMS THEY ARE PPLACING `TRAPS' IN THE
GARBAGE LIKE FAKE NMBERS THAT SAY COSMOS AND GIVE THE PASSWORD AND
EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW TO USE IT...WELL, THIS IS NOT COSMOS WHEN
U DIAL IT, BUT YOU WILL BE TRACED...PLUS ALARMS ON THE GARBAGE BINS THEMSELVES(
NOT THE KIND THE GARBAGE CO. DUMPS BUT ONES THEY OWN)....ALSO, WATCH OUT FOR
ANY INFO THAT LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IF YOU FIND SEVERAL PAPERS TOGETHER
WITH THE BEST INFO YOU HAVE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE BE CAREFUL..
LATER
Numb: 17
Title:Jersey 1st in wiretaps
From: THE SHADOW
Date: 05-05-85 Time:10:36
from the Star Ledger, Thursdau May 2, 1985
JERSEY LEADS THE NATION IN LEGAL WIRETAPS FOR THE SEVENTH STRAIGHT YEAR
New Jersey telephones were far more likely to be tapped by law enfrocement
authories thatn those in any other state last year, a distinction that has
noted in the last sevven (lots of line noise) annual wiretap reports issued by
the Administrative Office of the US Courts. Micheal Bozza, assistant director
of criminal justice in the state Attorney Gen eral's office reiterated that New
jersey's zealous use of electronic surveilien ce demonstrates that law
enforcement authorites are especially aggressive in investigating organized
crime. Acording to the report, NJ sought and recieved court approval for 151
taps in 1984, an increase of 29 over 1983. this upturn reverses a trend that
has brought the number of wiretaps down in the last few years. All but a few
of the wiretaps were issued in investigations dealing with drug trafficking and
gambling, activities usually associated with orgainized crime.
New jersey was followed in ranking by New York with 122, Florida with 58,
and Pennsylvania with 46.. no other state had more than 23 wiretaps authorized
(hmmm, authorized. what about telco "line quality testing") More than 40% of
the nations wiretaps were authorized by the top 3 states. in 1981 New jersey
authorized 139 taps, in 1982 128. Hudson county led NJ with 39 taps, Bergan
with 21, Essex with 14, Passaic with 10, Cumberland and Mercer with 2, and
Camdem and Monmouth with 1. (whew! no Morris County) The state Attorney
Gernel's office accounted for another 27 wiretaps not listed by county. Hudson
County was cited as the jurisdiction with the highest ratio of convictions to
arrests as a result of wiretaps in the nation, with a total of 131 arrrests
(from 39 taps) leading to 51 convictions.
Numb: 18
Title:code posters
From: THE SHADOW
Date: 05-05-85 Time:10:51
specifically Super Phreak and Rasselton (whatever)
NO POSTING OF CODES!
no posting of codes, PBX codes, cmputer passwords, excetera. if you dont
like this, then dont call the BBS. this BBS is above board, nothing illegal at
ALL. we got people like T E Burns and others who are security people here, as
well as NJ Bell Security, so dont post codes. if you want codes, call a loser
BBS like Sherwood III and copy down all you see, you just wont get any REAL
telcom info,
also, Forest Ranger, yes, i am on all those Elite BBS's, and they STILL dont
know anything about REMOBs. they too argue wether of not they exist. closest
i saw to an actual REMOB was someone posted a really interesting test number
that ACTUALLY followed exactly the sequence mentioned in that infamous REMOB
file (way more than -9924 and their like) yet even still didnt reveal a tapped
conversation. i'll try and dig it up, i already posted it about 2 months ago
on this BBS, maybe one of you out there has it. 2
Numb: 19
Title:Interesting number.
From: HEADRUSH
Date: 05-05-85 Time:12:01
I posted this SEVERAL months ago so some people should try it.
201-584-4913
You'll easily figure it out and if anybody knows what it is please post.
Later,
HeAdRuSh
Numb: 20
Title:Oooppsss !
From: SUPER PHREAK
Date: 05-05-85 Time:17:35
My sincere apoligies for posting the code to that PBX. I was so 'INTO' the
new discoveries, that I totally forgot about the rules ! Sorry, to all, and
Private Sector.
Still looking for BLUE and/or SILVER box plans !! Leave E-mail if you have
them.
Super Phreak
Numb: 21
Title:REMOB REHASH
From: SIR WILLIAM
Date: 05-08-85 Time:13:49
So what is that # that was incorrectly called a remob a few msgs back? As
soon as I called it I recognized the sound as the same as a local # here:
(304) 267-9999. On the one here entering 2,5,8, or 0 will give a blip sound
the same on both (after getting 8 busy tones here) but what then? What's it
for? Anyone have any ideas? An interesting thing about the one here at least
is that if you call it, someone else can call on another line and it will also
answer them but if it's a possible conf # I don't know how to get the two calls
connected. Later...
** SIR WILLIAM **
Numb: 22
Title:HEADRUSH #?
From: SIR WILLIAM
Date: 05-08-85 Time:13:55
Called the # in HEADRUSH'S msg. After what sounded like an extender prompt
and entering a # a radio station could be heard faintly in the background. I
hung on for a few minutes waiting for a station ID out of couriosity and an OP
came on the line and asked if she could help. I asked who I had reached and
she said it was something Data. They had a lot of lines for data transfer and
that was one of them, she seemed surprised that I could hear a radio station,
not sure she even believed me. This doesn't tell you just what it is but it's
a start. Maybe the proper code at the prompt will return a modem tone, just a
guess. Till later...
** SIR WILLIAM **
Numb: 23
Title:TIRKS?
From: HUMAN BEAT BOX
Date: 05-08-85 Time:23:04
GREETINGS.
WHILE TRASHING THE OTHER DAY I RAN ACROSS A WHOLE SET OF PRINTOUTS WHICH
PERTAINED TO A BELL SYSTEM CALLED `TIRKS' ON THE FIRST FEW PAGES THERE WERE
SOME INTRODUCTORY MESSAGES ABOUT WORKLOADS, SYSTEM PROBLEMS, ETC. THEN SOME
DAILY REPORT SUMMARIES. IN A LIST OF PHONE NUMBERS (MOSTLY VOICE) WAS A SYSTEM
STATUS NUMBER EWHICH IS A RECORDING. 215-466-2795. THIS NUMBER CHANGES DAILY.
I HAVE THE LOGON PROCEDURE BUT I DO NOPT HAVE THE NUMBER OR HAVE THE FAINTEST
IDEA WHAT THIS SYSTEM IS ABOUT. ANY IDEAS?
Numb: 24
Title:This Board
From: KID & CO.
Date: 05-09-85 Time:06:59
Please do not post messages selling products to this BBS, we are not interested
DO NOT post codes or passwords or CC #'s. Just about anything else goes.
Thank you
Kid & Co
Co-sysop
Numb:25
Title:Sir William.~.
From: HEADRUSH
Date: 05-09-85 Time:14;58
That's about all I could find out about it too. One time the operator (at
the number) gave the guy in charge. Boy was he pissed. Why you ask? I don't
know, but that should mean there's something interesting there. Try it. (201)
584-4913. Then post if you find anything else than what was posted...besides
codes.
Later,
H e A d R u S h
Numb: 26
Title:friendly BBS
From: THE SHADOW
Date: 05-09-85 Time:18:10
hmmmmm, seems like the sysop of the "Computers and Economics BBS" at
(201) 398-6724 loves us. he posted this nice message...
PHREAK BBS POLUTES NJ PHONE LINES
THE PRIVATE SECTOR BBS (201) ??? ???? IS THE OFFICIAL BBS OF THE NOTORIOUS
"2600" MAGAZINE. THIS SYSOP MANAGED TO LOG ON BEFORE IT WENT SUBSCRIPTION AND
WHAT I SAW MADE ME WANNA SCREAM ! MODEM NUMBERS OF OUR LEADING CORPORATIONS,
PHONE COMPANY ACCESS CODES, BLUE BOX INFO, INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO TRASH DATA
BASES AND MUCH MUCH MORE. I THINK AT& T SHOULD ORDER A NAPALM STRIKE ON THIS
RATS NEST ! THE NUMBER OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR BBS AND INFORMATION ON HOW TO
SUBSCRIBE TO THE 2600 MAGAZINE (ADDRESS ETC.) ARE AVAILABLE TO SUBSCRIBERS OF
THIS BBS.
we love you too. amazing the claims he makes in other parts of the BBS. i
at least didnt know that the Private Sector was "SUBSCRIPTION" for a really
good laugh (this one was MILD compared with the others) just call the BBS up
and read its "System Bullitains" (think its a R-BBS on an IBM) quite enjoyable
reading.
shadow 2600
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Title:1-800-824-8274
From: DAVID LIGHTMAN
Date: 05-09-85 Time:19;06
I FOOLED WITH THIS # AND GOT TO THE POINT WHERE IT ASKS FOR 'ENTER RECORD
VERSION AND NETWORK ROUTING NUMBER'. THEN ALL I GET ARE SOME `THE NUMBER YOU
HAVE DIALED IS....` RECORDINGS. THEN IT STOPS. TELL ME WHAT I AM DOING WRONG,
SHADOW (YOU POSTED IT). WHAT IS THIS??? HELP...
***********
* THE END *
*********** DAVID LIGHTMAN (TM)
<IN SEARCH OF REMOBS>
(C)1985 TALON CORP.
Numb: 28
Title:ABOUT VAX AND VMS
From: RWELZ
Date: 05-09-85 Time:23:44
To those of you looking to hack VAXs running VMS: If they're running VMS 4.x
on their system, LOOK OUT! Lots of hooks in the op system to catch break-ins.
DEC has gotten so crafty as to disable an account after x number of password
failures, but they still prompt you as if nothing was wrong. So, even if you
did guess a valid username and password, VMS would still indicate a failure.
In addition they send bells and alarms to a security monitor notifying him of
potential problems. At least one site I know had the telco put some sort of
box (?) on the dial-up line to locate the source of a--hacker--problem.
Your best bet--as always--is to watch somebody type his password; log onto
his account and then screw around. For example, try to copy the desired file
to your local directory. WARNING, this has potential traceability under 4.x!
To gain access to a privileged account is a bit trickier and you'll have to
rely on some sys manager's negligence (as you do anyway). There are 3
(sometimes 4) accounts with--DEC supplied--default passwords. I don't feel
comfortable posting these, but the info is widely available. (I know some of
you are too damn good to give you any added edge.) If you're looking for
sources of common passwords on VAX systems, check out some the DEC specific
magazines DIGITAL REVIEW, HARDCOPY, THE DEC PROFESSIONAL, etc. There have some
good ideas in recent months. If anyone has a real interest in this stuff and
you think you've got something that'll hack a VAX, I can definitly let you
know; if it's conceivable, I've probably tried it or heard something about it.
I won't tell you how to do something, but I will let you know if it can
you think you've got something that'll hack a VAX, I can definitely let you
plus it's getting harder all the time. Use email back to me, since I suspect
most phreaks care little about VAXs and computer stuff probably doesn't belong
on this board anyway, right, wrong?
Now a stupid question: What's a conference and a loop? SHORT answers will
do.
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Title:MAY 2600
From: 2600 MAGAZINE
Date: 05-10-85 Time:03;46
Watch for the Mother's Day issue of 2600, being mailed Sunday at around 2 pm
(we usually have a brief ceremony). This month, Shadow's concise guide to
AT&T's Alliance Teleconferencing, the latest on the People Express scam, news,
letters, and two new pages, including advertisements for the first time! If
you know of any potential advertisers, you can tell us about them by writing to
us or calling us (516-751-2600, ext. 0) or you can even steer the advertisers
to us. We're taking this step because it's the only way to keep from falling
into the red -- our editorial content will never be swayed by any advertiser,
unlike nearly every other paper in existence! We'll send a copy of an
excellent article in this month's Digital Review to anybody that sends us a
self addressed stamped envelope. the writer actually seems to understand many
of the points we made. This is great publicity for all of us. Private Sector
will get lots of interesting new callers as a result. Wherever possible,
spread the word of 2600 and The Private Sector. There are people like us all
over the world who don't yet know that there are places they can communicate.
We need to reach them. Our address is still 2600, Box 752, Middle Island, NY
11953-0752. Our rates are still $12 a year, $1 per back issue. Remember,
we're not out to make money, we're out to make points and have lots of fun.
let's all keep up the good work. 2600
Numb: 30
Title:REMOB REHASH-REHASH
From: SIR WILLIAM
Date: 05-10-85 Time:10:13
I'M WITH SHADOW. SHOW ME ONE AND I'LL BELIEVE IT. I DON'T DOUBT THAT THEY
'RE POSSIBLE BUT HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF ONE. IT'S NOT UP TO PEOPLE
LIKE ME TO PROVE THEY DON'T EXIST, IT'S UP TO PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN THEM TO
PROVE THEY DO. THEY'RE JUST LIKE UFO'S, SEEMS MOST PEOPLE KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO
KNOWS THEY EXISTS BUT NO ONE HAS ANY PROOF.
WITH ALL THE PBX #`S, MAINFRAME #'S ETC. THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND HOW DO YOU
EXPLAIN NO REMOB #'S BEING FOUND AND POSTED? IF THEY DO EXIST SURELY THEY
WOULD BE MORE SECURE THAN JUST HAVING A 2-DIGIT ACCESS CODE. A COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO WHEN THIS WAS RUNNING AROUND IT WAS SAID THAT A SILVER BOX WAS REQUIRED TO
GET ON ONE AFTER-THE # WAS FOUND. IT JUST KEEPS GOING 'ROUND AND 'ROUND. SHOW
SOME PROOF, MORE THAN 'I HEARD` OR 'SO-AND-SO SAID'.
** SIR WILLIAM **
Numb: 31
Title:Indeed!
From: THE DEMON
Date: 05-10-85 Time:11:55
I emphatically agree with Sir William, as most of you know. Sir William, you
are cordially invited to join myself and The Shadow in the "rumor box"
search... So far, we have found NO conclusive proof of any of the follow- ing:
Mirror Boxes
Gold Boxes
Copper Boxes
REMOBs
Once again, ANYONE who can put us in touch with someone who can PROVE to us
that any of the above exist and work, PLEASE send E-mail to The Demon or The
Shadow.
Conf + Loop:
------------
Well, a BRIEF description of each: A conference, as commonly referred to, is
a call made through the Alliance teleconferencing service, allowing one user,
the "controller", to add up to 59 people to the conference. This means
everyone can tal to every- one else at the same time. A oop is a number or set
of numbers that get called by two or more people at the same time. Then all
the people who call the loop number(s) get conn- ected t each other. This is
very handy for many things...well, disk space is limited (as usual), so more
later.
later days,
The Demon
Knowledge is power!
Numb: 32
Title:Dragon Flies
From: FLYING DRAGON
Date: 05-11-85 Time:12;18
Well, yes, I haven't been calling or posting a whole lot recently, but I'll
work on it. In response to someone's saying that I said pressing 9 starts a
trace, wrong. I never said anything about tracing from PBX's, just that an ESS
can log all the callers to a PBX IF the PBX owners ask. While on ESS, does
anyone know how you can find out if you're on an ESS? I always thought I
wasn't, but two things are suspicious. First, a few quick calls I made in my
area (not LATA, just local 3-digit before your four digit home number), the
rings were the same. Not computer-like, but the same. Also, there is a number
you can dial (958 in the 516 area code, it's not illegal, try it out) that will
announce in a computer voice your phone number. Hmm.. If I'm on ESS, I could
get in big trouble. About boxes.. a purple box would simply be a blue box
that generates red box (coin) tones, no? As for silver boxes, 1 own a nice
phone with 16 buttons, including A-D. I'll upload plans for changing a
standard desk-phone (preferrably bought from AT&T, don't know about others)
into a silver box at the flip of a switch. It is quite easy, but don't do it
if you are leasing your phone. That is tampering with AT&T property! Any
idiot that calls this a "rat's nest" deserves to loose some sleep. So far as I
know, there's nothing illegal about telecommunications hobbiests! Just hacking
and if you don't screw up, you can enjoy a lot of stuff, and learn a LOT) and
phreaking are quasi-legal. Phree calls? Go pick on someone else, like the
dying Sherwood Forest Clan! I want all of you to call this number NOW : 516
549 0268. I'm running an elite and we need good users, dammit! Thank you.
Keep those networks open (and your noses clean!)
F l y i n g D r a g o n & C o.
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Title:QUESTION
From: THE KEEPER
Date: 05-11-85 Time:13:18
THIS MAY BE A STUPID QUESTION, BUT HOW DO YOU PASS CONTROL ON A CONFERENCE?
I JUST SET UP MY FIRST ONE BUT I DON'T REMEMBER HOW.
THE KEEPER
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Title:ESS
From: EVIL RABBIT
Date: 05-11-85 Time:13:48
IM NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE, BUT STUFF LIKE SPEED DIALING, CALL WAITING AND
FORWARDING AND SHIT CAN ONLY BE HAD ON A ESS SYSTEM. CALL YOU R OPERATOR AND
ASK IF YOU CAN GET THESE OPTIONS ON YOUR SERVICE, IF SHE SAYS YES MORE THAN
LIKELY YOUR ON ESS. PLUS, THOU SHALT BOX ONLY FROM THEE PHORTRESS PHONE.
DROL SI NATAS
Numb: 35
Title:Cheapo Speaker f/modem
From: COL. HOGAN
Date: 05-11-85 Time:19:22
Ok, this is really condesed. If you want more info, leave e-mail to me on
the Warehouse 1/201/273/1612, or the Armoury 1/201/276/1207.
If you have hard wired phones, you are in luck. Find the two wires that are not
being used (on 4 line wire)...connect a phone to them. The crosstalk from the
lines carring the actual phone signals to the unused line is enough! You can
hear touch-tones, busy etc. Best way to amplify:Open the phone, find where the
EARPIECE leads go to (on the little block)....disconnect them, and just put
an amp there. Works great! On my phone set up I have another phone hooked up to
the spare wires (listen in on conversations from by the modem, and elsewhere..)
This *MIGHT* have an affect. What the effect will be, I dunno.
---------------
Nifty Note:
---------------
If you happen to have one of those piss-poor Radio Shack 150 in 1 electronic
kits around, build one of the AM transmitters. Use a transformer, (I have a
nice power supply...) or such to power it..10 volts, not 9volt shit battery.
Hook the sucker up to the CATV wire. Blanks out the station you have it set to
for atleast 100 yards on either side of the wire, for I don't know how far
(more than a block)...Also, use the CATV wire for FM reception..... Good for
me... I live in a damn valley.....Tune to around 100 105 on the FM dial...Get
MTV, Showtime, HBO, etc in Stereo, or SimuStereo. Great if you can tune in the
picture for a service you are not paying for...but can't get the audio.
Col. Hogan
--Smartmodem Autodialer up on Universe AE. Convert it into a WarGames dialer.
1/201/277/1273.
Numb: 36
Title:HP 3000
From: COL. HOGAN
Date: 05-11-85 Time:19;46
Sorry about the second post....
What is the big deal about hacking HP 3000`s? They are pretty poor
computers if you ask me (I have 2 years experince on a 1000 and 3000)...
Here is a number if you like to play:
1/201/464/4402
Anyone have any hints on hacking HP3000's? any quick and dirty methods?
If so, either post here, or e-mail...PLEASE! MY GRADES ARE IN THERE!
If you need any tech info on them, I have about 100 sheets of
printouts from the system help files, and I have access to MPE, FCOPY, and
several other HP 3000 manuals.
Col. Hogan
Numb: 37
Title:RAINBOW BOX
From: THE RAMLORD
Date: 05-11-85 Time:21;43
YES , I KNOW ANOTHER STUPID QUESTION BUT WHAT IS A RAINBOW BOX??? IVE HEARD
OF ALL TYPES OF BOXES BUT NOT THIS ONE YET ???? , AND A PUPLE BOX?
))) THE RAMLORD (((
^^^^^^^^^^^
Numb: 38
Title:ON HP3000`S
From: RASSELON
Date: 05-11-85 Time:22;08
COL. HOGAN, AND WHOEVER ELSE....
HP3000'S ARE WELL-MADE COMPUTERS, BEAUTIES FOR THEIR TIME. BUT THEY ARE
INDEED ANCIENT, BECOMING MORE AND MORE OBSOLETE. THUS, ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS
MY SCHOOL DISTRICT CHOOSE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR LOW COST (I ASSUME). AND,
INDEED, MY GRADES ARE ON ONE TOO. BUT NOT CONSTANTLY.. JUST WHEN THEY WISH TO
PROCESS THEM. I'VE HAD OPERATOR.SYS ACCESS ON ONE OF THE 2 OF OUR DISTRICT'S
COMPS, BUT THERE WAS NO WAY TO COVER OUR FOOTSTEPS, AND NOW THEY'VE HIRED A
SECURITY-HEAD SYSOP. ALONG WITH THE OLDMETHODS, BECOMING LESS AND LESS
EFFECTIVE DUE TO OUR CONSTANT DECREASE IN LEGIT. ACCESS ALLOWED US, WE DECIDED
TO GET MUCH MORE DIRECT. NOW WORKING ON A PLAN TO FIND OUT THE SYSOP'S
PASSWORD VIA THE TAP- PING OF HIS PHONE. ENOUGH OF THIS...
IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER HP3000 HACKERS OR PROGRAMMERS OUT THERE, LET US KNOW.
AND MY GRANDEST REWARD TO ANY WHO CAN GET TOTAL ACCESS TO 319-386-8323 OR
319-386-9561
LEAVE EMAIL FOR LOWLY-ACCESS PASSWORDS
OR INFO ON THOSE HP3000'S.
KEEP ON HACKIN'.
LATER...
...RASSELON.
Numb: 39
Title:R/HP-3000
From: THE PROPHET
Date: 05-11-85 Time:22;46
Col Hogan & Rasselon: My grades are also located on an HP-3000. I have had
the operator's password since mid-August...The security is a joke!! The Sysop
is the dumbest woman I have ever met! She broke in once and we had a nice
chat! She told me not to call back! Anyway, I am pretty knowledgable with the
3000 and will look at those numbers. It is not that easy to change your grades
and get away with it They usually send the teacher a verification sheet to
male sure the grades match!!!! although you can usually get the classes you
want... Our bright Sysop kept a list of the Accounts and pw's in the System
Library. Me and my low level math account found them!! _The HP-3000 might be
ancient, but is still my favorite. By the way....I found an RSTS the other day
and need some info about it. I am pretty sure about the login procedure but
would like some info on them . Thanx
*The Prophet*
Numb: 40
Title:source id/psw
From: TIGER PAWS III
Date: 05-12-85 Time:02;50
Anyone interested in using a legit Source ID/Password let me know & I'll
E-Mail. Please, just don't change the password if you try it.
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