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Taken from KeelyNet BBS (214) 324-3501
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Sponsored by Vangard Sciences
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PO BOX 1031
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Mesquite, TX 75150
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May 15, 1992
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DENISLEE.ASC
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This file shared with KeelyNet courtesy of Bob Aldrich,
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SYSOP of Survivor BBS in Los Angeles.
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SOME INFORMATION ON THE DENNIS LEE "PHASE CHANGE" MACHINE
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April 12, 1992
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Note: This is an interview between Jim Davis and Bob Aldrich,
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Sysop of the Survivor Club BBS in Los Angeles; 1-213-663-1301
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Jim saw the machine in question and this is his report on it.
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Q: When did you see this device?
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A: Two years ago, in Ventura.
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He had a 500 gallon tank of water, and the idea was to see
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how much... He was running a compressor with a wattmeter on the
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wall, and we could measure the amount of electricity it took to
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raise the temperature seventy degrees in the tank of water, so we
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could calculate the BTU's it took to raise the temperature of the
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water, and we could calculate the watts out of the power lines, and
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when we did the calculation; we had gotten out of the plates on the
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roof an equivalent of eight times what we got out of the power
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plug.
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Q: How was the system set up?
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A: There was a compressor; seven plates on the roof, (three
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or four feet wide by seven feet long); this compressor pushed
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refrigerant through the plates on the roof, and when it would come
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down and the compressor compressed it, heat would come out, and it
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was a very short run from there into the tank of water, a big
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insulated thing, 500 gallons. It (pipes) went into the tank of
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water and dumped the heat into it.
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Q: How long did it take to heat this tank up?
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A: Forty Minutes, not long, it was fast.
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Each of us, about seven of us, got to go up the ladder and
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check the temperature. It was about room temperature to start.
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Then afterwards there was another set of plates down below
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going into a frame box with one inch of full thick insulation and
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a half-inch of plywood. We shoved the plates in there and closed
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the doors and turned the thing on and got the tempurature down to
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minus ten. And we got hot water from inside that box, which was at
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minus ten. Of course there was heat leaking in from outside in the
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room, which was at 65 degrees. But we went out for a lecture and
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came back in an hour or so and we had made forty gallons of hot
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water.
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And then he did something else, he took that minus ten
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refrigerated space and heated up the room with it to show us this
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thing was net-gaining and it wasn't just sucking air out of the
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room. He took the heat from this refrigerator (insulated space) and
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he hooked it up to this blower and heated the room up till it was
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about 75 degrees. That heat was actually being generated from that
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refrigerator. Of course heat was leaking into the refrigerator but
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nevertheless this whole warehouse got warm. The refrigerator got
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down to close to minus twenty. I think the freon was good for just
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down to that point, its boiling point was minus twenty. I was
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impressed, I think it was free energy, myself.
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Q: Free meaning, "Well, there's the heat in the refrigerator,
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let's use it out here.", right?
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A: Yes, well, we transferred it, yes.
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Q: How big was the refrigerator?
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A: Oh, gee, about ten feet by twelve feet by eight feet. It
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was big.
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Q: A walk in.
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A: Yes. He was demonstrating that you could make air
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conditioning in your house. You have a little room, you make it
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cold, maybe it's your refrigerator, you pump that through the rest
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of your house, you've got air-conditioning. You want to make your
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refrigerator cold, your swimming pool hot, you could do that. If
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you wanted to have a sauna, you could pump heat from there to a
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sauna.
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It's neat. (just move the heat around) Then later, what he was
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trying to do was to perfect a way to make electricity out of that
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coefficient of performance of eight, if he could convert that to
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electricity, he could make enough to run the whole system.
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Q: You mean, the power would be coming from out-door heat?
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A: Right.
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Q: And you could run the system. So you would just need a more
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efficient freon-driven generator.
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A: Well, he claims there was a way of making it much more
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efficient; using special lubricants; if he could make the
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compressor the right way, he could make it so it runs at air
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temperature. Right now it's restricted to keep the compressor from
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melting down. Because if you were not to restrict the input of the
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freon into the plates, the compressor would get too hot; so the
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compressor has a heat sensor on it, and when it gets too hot it
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just shuts down those valves, to cool the system down. I think it
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could take 207 degrees or something.
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Q: Was there some talk of a ceramic compressor?
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A: Yes. That was another company.
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Q: When was the last time you saw Dennis?
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A: That was the last time. Two years ago.
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Q: What do you call it?
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A: Phase Change. Dennis Lee's Phase Change. A heat pump.
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Q: There must be something different about it; how is it
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different from a regular heat pump?
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A: It's a flat-plate heat pump, it takes you further.
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Q: What do they normally use?
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A: They're around a box, there's a fan in the center. They
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tend to ice up, these (Lee's) don't because the plates are all
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spread out. But really, that's all it is.
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Q: So just more efficient?
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A: Heat pumps are efficient too, but this is more efficient
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because it's spread out, it gets more heat.
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End of interview.
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Interviewer's Note:
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This is not, of course perpetual motion. Not any more, that
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is, than the spinning of the earth or the burning of the sun is
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perpetual motion. Or perhaps not any more than a gold-miner is
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getting free gold by digging it out of the ground. Of course some
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energy has to be expended to dig it out. Of course a woodcutter has
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to work hard to get some firewood to heat his house. But somehow
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in the scheme of things, the digging for gold or the cutting of
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wood pays for itself. The goldminer cashes his gold at the bank or
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wherever, buys some new clothes, buys food and whiskey, takes a
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woman, later takes some rest, and, so energized, takes the money
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left over to mine more gold! Free energy! It goes the same with a
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woodcutter. Of course a heat pump would have to expend some energy
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to pump the heat inside, especially when the temperature is colder
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outside than in!
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The point is that there is all this heat floating around in
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the environment just going to waste! Why not use it, and
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efficiently?
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Why get it from a gas pipe when you can get it from the outside
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air? Why use electricity when the potential is there to take energy
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from right outside the window? At least if you are going to use
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electricity to heat your refrigerator, you could take that heat and
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heat your water-heater! You get the idea!
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Vangard Note...
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We first came across the activities of Dennis Lee at a Global
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Sciences Conference in Denver Colorado. At that time, Dennis had
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just been released from prison for fraudulent dealings with his
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heat pump device. Although we did not speak with him privately,
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we did attend an impromptu presentation at which he mentioned his
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past and made claims regarding his system. The device was
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promoted ONLY as a means of heating water yet hints were made
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that it had other uses. It was also claimed that there were
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thousands of units in operation.
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One of the men attending the presentation stood up and accused
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Dennis of ripping him off for about $3000. He also said many
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others had also been ripped off and warned the audience to not be
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taken in. This developed into a heated argument between Dennis
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and the man which we all thought might break out into a fight.
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We later spoke with this man and he said Dennis had made claims
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and took his money, but he never saw the device that he had
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"bought". We now understand that Dennis is sponsoring an '800'
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number offering videotapes of the device for $50. The idea is
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that you send a check or money order that will not be redeemed as
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long as you return the video. We have not pursued this offer.
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In support of the concept, we understand that it does indeed work
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quite well despite the shady dealings of its promoters. The heat
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pump is extremely efficient in the above mentioned configuration
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as told to us by another local resarcher who is working on a
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thermodynamic turbine. This local researcher informs us that in
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the state of Texas, co-generation techniques that provide power
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to be sold back into the grid need ONLY be purchased if generated
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by CERTAIN SPECIFIC TECHNIQUES.
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Acceptable co-generation techniques include Solar, Geothermal,
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Wind, Nuclear or standard armature-type electrical generators.
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Our inventor friend tells us that heat pumps as co-generators are
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specifically EXCLUDED from the list that power companies are
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required to buy back. We found that quite interesting...this
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particular inventor feels that he was targeted as his turbine
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device could be used to generate electrical power and so the law
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was made to prevent consumers from making money FROM the power
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company.
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Jerry W. Decker.........Ron Barker...........Chuck Henderson
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