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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 40 03 Oct 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-714-639-0377 1:1/23 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Warren Bonner |
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| | (*) | \ )) | editor@fidonews.org |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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From the Editor's Desk ................................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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Makenews needs an enema .................................. 2
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FTSC MEMBERS ............................................. 2
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Loss of Good Friends ..................................... 3
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 4
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Ol' WDB's Column ......................................... 4
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4. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 6
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 1 2 Oct 2000
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EDITORIAL
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From the Editor's Desk
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by Warren D. Bonner
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Today I start a new job. A job that was very unexpectedly given to
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me, primarily because I was one of the columnist in FidoNews before
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the untimely passing of our dear friend and editor, Doug Myers. Doug
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was a unique individual, driven to present the "snooze" in a manner
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that all Fido sysops would find enlightening; well covered in depth,
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succinct, serious, and funny, as the subject demanded. He never ran
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from the truth, rather grasped it as a spear to defend any concept
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that was pertinent to the story line. I was reminded that I don't
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have to fill Doug's shoes, as that would not be possible; but to
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pursue the truth with the same diligence that he did. To that end I
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dedicate myself.
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The learning how to use the software that formats all articles for
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reproduction in so many different editors is a trip you don't want to
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take. It is a cloister of batch files that have not kept pace with
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technical advances in over a decade. My programming abilities are
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less than adequate. Therefore, I have prevailed on Joe Jared to make
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the antiquated MakeNews software more friendly and hopefully more
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usable. This brings me to mention also, that I have named him as
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co-moderator of FidoNews.
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Although my health has been a possible detriment to my being the
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editor, I am happy to report that all is much improved over a year
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ago. In conclusion I ask your patience with two "shorties" in four
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days to get the "Snooze" back on track. Ol'wdb
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 2 2 Oct 2000
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ARTICLES
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Makenews needs an enema
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By Joe Jared, 1:103/301
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After a cursory analysis of the software used to produce fidonews, a
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few things become obvious. First, it desperately needs to be
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replaced, and requires too much hand holding. Secondly, and
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obviously, since it was originally written by System Enhancement
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associates (the authors of ARCA) , and since they were unwilling to
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adapt pkzip to the program, another individual patched the 1989
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executable to execute ZIP A instead of arca in order to use pkzip.
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That has been the extent of the development of makenews over the past
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11 years. Given that this program was designed around the time that
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the SEA VS. PKWARE litigation was just finalizing the result is
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totally unsurprising. From a purely software perspective, Makenews in
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its entirely will be replaced with something significantly more
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friendly over the next couple of weeks. To everyone who has performed
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the task in the past decade, kudos. Your task was difficult at best,
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and given the finicky nature of the software, you were the automation
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instead of the software.
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FTSC MEMBERS
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by David Hallford
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The Fidonet Technical Standards Committee Standing Members are
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elected bi-annually. Roughly 50% each year. Sometimes this seems like
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a magical process that Fidonet Nodes are left in the dark about.
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What do you do if you think a current member of the FTSC is the
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wrong (for any reason) person to be on the committee?
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Using me as an example: You think Dave Hallford is a power hungry
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[illegitimate child] who is using his position on the Committee to
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try and consolidate his position in Fidonet so he can eventually take
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over. You know he is up for re-election this year, but have no idea
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how to register your protest.
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From FTA-1001
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Standing members may be nominated Fidonet-wide by all of the
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following methods:
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1. Any RC or REC.
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2. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the FTSC.
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3. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the ZCC.
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Standing members are appointed on the basis of a vote by all RCs and
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RECs who are nodelisted as holding those positions at the time the
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nominations are published. A successful candidate must receive
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approval by a majority of votes.
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 3 2 Oct 2000
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========
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Currently the RC/REC method is used for nominations and elections. So
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if you think someone is not doing their job or is improperly using
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their position contact your RC or REC and let them discuss it with
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other RC's and REC's.
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After all - The FTSC is *your* committee.
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Loss of Good Friends
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By Bobby Queen,wizards@shelby.net
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Well folks I hate to have to write an article like this for the snooze
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but I guess its necessary. This year has been particularly hard for
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FidoNet. First we lost quite a few with apparent y2k problems, then
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others started leaving due to lack of callers on their BBS's and then
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the big problem with us losing some good friends due to death. :( I
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have lost 2 real good friends in a short period of time this year.
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Both Kent Anderson and Douglas Myers had become good friends in a
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short period. Both had become regular email pals and I considered
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both of them good friends. Unlike friends you can visit with and
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spend time with in person these friends are sometimes more important
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to those of us who are unable to work and spend most of our days
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working on our computers. I have already missed their emails and
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their short notes full of wit and support. Both of them are going to
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be missed in FidoNet and although some others may come along and take
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their place in the echos they can never take their place in our
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hearts.
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 4 2 Oct 2000
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COLUMNS
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By Warren Bonner WDBonner@pacbell.net
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Famous Quotes
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Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning
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to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet.
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--Robin Williams
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Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I
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think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself.
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--Roseanne
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Women need a reason to have sex. Men just need a place.
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--Billy Crystal
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You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a
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look that says, "My God, you're right! I never would've thought of
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that!" --Sean Connery
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According to a new survey, women say they feel more comfortable
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undressing in front of men than they do undressing in front of other
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women. They say that women are too judgmental, where, of course, men
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are just grateful. --Robert DeNiro
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I am not the boss of my house. I don't know how I lost it. I don't
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know when I lost it. I don't think I ever had it. But I've seen the
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boss's job and I don't want it. --Bill Cosby
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In the last couple of weeks I have seen the ads for the Wonder Bra.
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Is that really a problem in this country? Men not paying enough
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attention to women's breasts? --Hugh Grant
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We have women in the military, but they don't put us in the front
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lines. They don't know if we can fight or if we can kill. I think we
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can. All the general has to do is walk over to the women and say,
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"You see the enemy over there? They say you look fat in those
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uniforms." --Elayne Boosler
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There's a new medical crisis. Doctors are reporting that many men are
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having allergic reactions to latex condoms. They say they cause
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severe swelling. So what's the problem? --Dustin Hoffman
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When the sun comes up, I have morals again. --Elizabeth Taylor
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There's very little advice in men's magazines, because men don't think
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there's a lot they don't know. Women do. Women want to learn. Men
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think, "I know what I'm doing, just show me somebody naked.
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--Jerry Seinfield
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If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten.
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--George Clooney
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 5 2 Oct 2000
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Instead of getting married again, I'm going to find a woman I don't
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like and just give her a house. --Rod Stewart
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The problem with the designated driver program, it's not a desirable
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job. But if you ever get sucked into doing it, have fun with it. At
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the end of the night, drop them off at the wrong house. --Jeff Bridges
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See, the problem is that God gives men a brain and a penis, and only
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enough blood to run one at a time. --Robin Williams
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 6 2 Oct 2000
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INTERNET INFO
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------------------------------------------------------
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* Fidonet-related sites
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: September 16, 2000
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
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Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.r10.org
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http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://www.earforce.dyndns.org/net2410/
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Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
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Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 15: <vacant>
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Region 16: <vacant>
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 7 2 Oct 2000
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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Net 5074: http://www.z2.n5074.fidonet.net
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
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time between when the message is received, and when it is
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sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
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defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
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immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 8 2 Oct 2000
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
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10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
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12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
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106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
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107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
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244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
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379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
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2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
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3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
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292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 9 2 Oct 2000
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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* NFS = Linux Networking
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Fidonet oriented news servers
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news.osirusoft.com
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news.tardis.net
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Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
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room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
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irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses
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here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
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obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and
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most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com
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will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
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stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com
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