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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 35 28 Aug 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Policy Debate ............................................ 1
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2. COLUMNS .................................................. 3
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Ol'WDB: Big Rocks in Your Life ........................... 3
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3. NET HUMOR ................................................ 5
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Union Brothel ............................................ 5
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Points to Ponder ......................................... 5
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4. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 7
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Cowstle .................................................. 7
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5. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 8
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 8
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6. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 12
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Masthead ................................................. 12
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 1 28 Aug 2000
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EDITORIAL
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Policy Debate
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Doug Myers
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Policy Debate continues to rage in the FN_SYSOP echo. Last week's
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editorial expressed the opinion that a formal change to Policy 4 is
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unlikely to result from any of the discussion currently taking
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place. However, Fidonet these days is run as much by the way sysops
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view the proper way they should interact as by any strict
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interpretation of policy... so it behooves us to examine some of the
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issues of the debate.
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ISSUE: Policy 4.07 was never ratified by the sysops of Fidonet, and
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therefore isn't binding on them.
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It's true that Policy 4.07 was never voted upon by the sysops of
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Fidonet, but rather by the Regional Coordinators. The fact that
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P4.07 granted Fidonet Coordinators governing authority which was
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previously considered to be in the hands of individual sysops leads
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some critics to cry "Foul!" They feel that the Coordinators were
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out of line to grant themselves broad powers and then attempt to
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legitimate it by voting only among themselves.
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Though this editor respects the above considerations, what is
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overlooked is that P4.07 has been informally ratified by sysop
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assent. Power in Fidonet _does_ reside in the hands of the sysops
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to the extent that they care to exercise it... but to the extent
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that they don't, power is exercised by individuals or groups.
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Simply put, if a group sets up rules and they are followed, then the
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rules are valid. P4.07 has stood unaltered for over ten years, and
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until the sysops reject it, it's valid... hence "informally
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ratified."
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This "informal ratification" is, however, a two-edged sword. The
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Region 10 Coordinator discovered a few years back that the powers
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granted by Policy could be effectively rescinded by the sysops.
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ISSUE: Sysop ratification of Policy isn't necessary.
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It is pointed out that NONE of the policies prior to P4 were
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ratified by ANYONE, but rather handed down from "on high." Hence
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there is no precedent for sysop ratification.
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This editor would argue that no policy would be successful without
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the assent of the sysops who comprise Fidonet. All policies were
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ratified to the extent that they were followed.
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ISSUE: Much of the debate on "policy" is actually on areas not
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covered by policy. For example, echomail isn't covered by P4.07.
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 2 28 Aug 2000
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The above argument places too strict an interpretation on the term
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"policy." While P4.07 avoids any regulation of echomail, it's
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difficult to argue that there's no echomail policy. Anyone who has
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tried to start an echo realizes that there's a definite procedure to
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follow (a policy), though it's expressed by the mail movers rather
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than the Coordinators.
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The practices which aren't defined by P4.07 are as much a part of
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Fidonet Policy as those formally stated.
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ISSUE: Fidonet doesn't really need a Policy. A set of informal
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guidelines would serve the same purpose.
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This is a mere bandying of words. Changing what we call policy
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doesn't alter the reality. A formal policy which no one follows
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isn't really policy at all, while "informal guidelines" which
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constrict are more binding than any stated policy.
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CONCLUSION: Fidonet will always be governed by Policy, though it
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won't be P4.07 or even its successor should one ever be drafted and
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adopted. Policy is simply the way the sysops choose to interact...
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and that may or may not follow the formal policy. For example,
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sysops generally organize under a coordinator structure, pretty much
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as defined by formal policy as there are few practical alternatives.
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However, strict geographic organization as mandated by formal policy
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is increasingly ignored as sysops find increasing advantage to
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organize in more appropriate ways. Bob Satti's concession of
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automatic geographic exemptions has become policy more binding than
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P4.07.
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 3 28 Aug 2000
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COLUMNS
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Ol'WDB's Column
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
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ENGINEERING EXPERT IN TIME MANAGEMENT
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The BIG ROCKS in your life
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One day an expert in time management was speaking to a group of
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business students and, to drive home a point, used an illustration
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those students will never forget. As he stood in front of the group
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of high powered overachievers he said, "Okay, time for a quiz." Then
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he pulled out a one-gallon, wide-mouthed Mason jar and set it on
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the table in front of him. Then he produced about a dozen
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fist-sized rocks and carefully placed them, one at a time, into the
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jar. When the jar was filled to the top and no more rocks would fit
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inside, he asked, "Is this jar full?"
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Everyone in the class said, "Yes." Then he said, "Really?" He
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reached under the table and pulled out a bucket of gravel. Then he
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dumped some gravel in and shook the jar causing pieces of gravel to
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work themselves down into the space between the big rocks.
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Then he asked the group once more, "Is the jar full?" By this time
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the class was on to him. "Probably not," one of them answered.
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"Good!" he replied. He reached under the table and brought out a
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bucket of sand. He started dumping the sand in the jar and it went
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into all of the spaces left between the rocks and the gravel.
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Once more he asked the question, "Is this jar full?" No!" the class
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shouted. Once again he said, "Good." Then he grabbed a pitcher of
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water and began to pour it in until the jar was filled to the brim.
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Then he looked at the class and asked, "What is the point of this
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illustration?" One eager beaver raised his hand and said, "The
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point is, no matter how full your schedule is, if you try really
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hard you can always fit some more things in it!"
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"No," the speaker replied, "that's not the point. The truth this
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illustration teaches us is: If you don't put the big rocks in
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first, you'll never get them in at all." What are the 'big rocks'
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in your life? Your children; Your loved ones; Your education; Your
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dreams; A worthy cause; Teaching or mentoring others; Doing things
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that you love; Time for yourself; Your health; Your significant
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other. Remember to put these BIG ROCKS in first or you'll never get
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them in at all.
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If you sweat the little stuff (the gravel, the sand) then you'll
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fill your life with little things you worry about that don't really
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matter, and you'll never have the real quality time you need to
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spend on the big, important stuff (the big rocks).
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So, tonight, or in the morning, when you are reflecting on this
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short story, ask yourself this question: What are the 'big rocks' in
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 4 28 Aug 2000
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my life? Then, put those in your jar first. (Found floating in web
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surf).
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 5 28 Aug 2000
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NET HUMOR
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Union Brothel
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Thanks to Roy Reed
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A dedicated union worker was attending a convention in Las Vegas
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and, as you would expect, decided to check out the local brothels
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nearby. When he got to the first one, he asked the madam, "Is this a
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union house?"
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"No," she replied, "I'm sorry it isn't."
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"Well, if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?"
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"The house gets $80 and the girls get $20."
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Mightily offended at such unfair dealings, the man stomped off down
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the street in search of a more equitable, hopefully unionized shop.
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His search continued until finally he reached a brothel where the
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madame responded,
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"Why yes sir, this IS a union house."
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The man asked, "And if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?"
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"The girls get $80 and the house gets $20."
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"That's more like it!" the UPS man said. He looked around the room
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and pointed to a stunningly attractive blonde. "I'd like her for the
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night."
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"I'm sure you would, sir," said the madame, then, gesturing to an
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obese fifty-five year old woman in the corner, "but Ethel here has
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seniority."
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Points to Ponder
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Thanks to Peggy Hollinger
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allica@juno.com
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If you throw a cat out of the car window, does it become kitty
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litter?
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If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn?
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Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon?
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What do chickens think we taste like?
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What do people in China call their good plates?
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 6 28 Aug 2000
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What do you call a male ladybug?
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What hair color do they put on the driver's license of a bald man?
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When dog food is new and improved tasting, who tests it?
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Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes?
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Why do they sterilize the needle for lethal injections?
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Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle?
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Why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor when you can't
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drink and drive?
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Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?
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Why are there Interstates in Hawaii?
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Why are there flotation devices in the seats of planes instead of
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parachutes?
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Why are cigarettes sold at gas stations where smoking is prohibited?
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Have you ever imagined a world without hypothetical situations?
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How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work?
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If the 7-11 is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, why does it
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have locks on the door?
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Why is a bra singular and panties plural?
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If a firefighter fights fire and a crime fighter fights crime, what
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does a freedom fighter fight?
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If they squeeze olives to get olive oil, how do they get baby oil?
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Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of a drive-up ATM?
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Why is it that when you transport something by car it is called
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shipment, but when you transport something by ship it's called
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cargo?
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Why don't sheep shrink when it rains?
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If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?
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If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the terminal?
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 7 28 Aug 2000
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COMIX IN ASCII
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(___)
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( OO
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| |____| |____| | | |__\/_| |
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| __________ | (oo) | __________ |
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| | | | ___ | ___ |_\_ | | | |
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| | (__) | |_| |_|_| |__|| |__| | (__) | |
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( ______ )
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( / \ )
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( / \ )
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FIDONEWS 17-35 Page 8 28 Aug 2000
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INTERNET INFO
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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Last update: July 16, 2000
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
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time between when the message is received, and when it is
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sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
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defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
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immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
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10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
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12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
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106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
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107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
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244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
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2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
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3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
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292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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