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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 14 03 Apr 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Joe Jared returns to the pages of Fidonews after a brief absence
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while establishing his own business. Joe maintains the Internet
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listings which have been a regular feature. Welcome back, Joe!
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Guide to Getting Along ................................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
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A Whine about ECHOMAIL ................................... 3
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Triple Play .............................................. 4
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 6
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This Weeks Web Page ...................................... 6
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Ol'WDB: Words To Live By ................................. 7
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 10
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Oneliners ................................................ 10
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5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 12
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Cool cows ................................................ 12
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6. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 13
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 13
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7. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 18
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Masthead ................................................. 18
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 1 3 Apr 2000
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EDITORIAL
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Guide to Getting Along
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Doug Myers
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Would the ancient Israelis have fared better if Moses would have
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come down from the mountain with the Ten Suggestions?
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Though addressing matters less spiritual, an ongoing debate in the
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FN_SYSOP echo touches the subject of toning down Policy 4. The
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range of the debate has been widespread. Some have advocated
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modifications to the policy, while others have advocated just
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ignoring it. While the validity of P4 has been seriously
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challenged, there's little doubt that this document has been widely
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regarded as Fidonet's "law and order."
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Recently, Darrell Salter has been spearheading an attempt to
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formulate "Guidelines" to influence the interactions between sysops.
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He urges participants to consider the way sysops work together as a
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cooperative thing rather than an authoritative thing. This is a
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serious attempt at formulating the concept of anarchy touted by
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Fidonet's founder, Tom Jennings. The term "Guidelines" as he's
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using it should not be considered a politically-correct term for
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"Policy."
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While most sysops seem to agree that Fidonet is basically a
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cooperative structure, Darrell's ideas are not totally embraced by
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all. Carol Shenkenberger pointed out in the early stages of the
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debate that Policy 4, though regarded by some as completely
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authoritative, is mostly used as a set of guidelines. Carol's
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initial effort was to suggest modifications to P4 and rely on the
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common sense of coordinators to keep from applying it as an
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instrument of abuse. Andrea Santos has argued that some conditions
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in Fidonet will continue to call for authoritative administrative
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action; conditions such as packet ramming.
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So what's it to be? Authority or Cooperation? If the truth can be
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found in the past, neither approach has been totally successful.
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Kay Shapiro pointed out once in a letter reprinted in Fidonews that
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Fido _has_ to be a cooperative structure because it simply doesn't
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have the police force to maintain total authority. Certainly, if
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Fido were a police state, Region 10 wouldn't have lost its "Refugee
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Nodes" in the past. On the other hand, many a moderator has seen
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the cooperative approach fail with a problem poster in his echo,
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having to resort to a feed cut to establish order (basically an
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authoritative solution).
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Perhaps the only answer is to find a reasonable balance between
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authority and cooperation - between "policy" and "guidelines." If
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so, the participants in the debate in FN_SYSOP are on a productive
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path. Though sharply disagreeing on specifics, the participants
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seem willing to hear each other out and weigh contrary arguments.
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Perhaps a new and better Fidonet is taking shape there...
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 2 3 Apr 2000
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 3 3 Apr 2000
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ARTICLES
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My EchoMail hurts me when I stick it in my eye.
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By Paul Lentz [1:124/5025]
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What a state Zone1 echomail is in. We've ended up with four systems
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that don't work together, don't do things the same way, and don't
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pay attention to what the others are doing anyway. We have the
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EchoList, the NAB, the WWB, and the Z1B. At least 1 of the 3 major
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Echomail distribution systems in Zone1 will not kill an echo unless
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it's requested by the moderator, regardless of how dead the thing
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is. It's clear they ignore whether an echo is elisted or not, since
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echos live on for months, long after everybody has left the party.
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People collect echos like seashells, but in the end you can only
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hear the sea when you hold most of them up to your ear, cause
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there's no one talking there, that's for sure. In alot of these
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cases no one cared enough about the echo to worry about updating the
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elisting, so it is snatched up to "save" it from the quiet dignity
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of death. Also, echos are easily created and backboned when someone
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dreams them up and then convince willing "Bone Hub Buds" to ask for
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inclusion, even though no one has ever showed an interest to discuss
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the topics at hand. Used to be that echos were created because there
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was a need for them, like that people were discussing it in a
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general echo and found it more reasonable to move to a more specific
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echo. Ok, at least now there's a meeting place should that subject
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come up. Generally, people stay away in droves.
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A miserable scenario occurs with the wait end nodes go through for a
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newly areafixed echo to have something, *ANYTHING*, posted in it.
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This can go on for weeks. Maybe the spam on the internet would help
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the traffic level in some echos... we should consider this idea<g>.
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It would be much better to get 70 messages a day per echo,
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supposedly written by 70 different 17 year old girls that are very
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sick... with the HOTS!... you just need to get yourself over to
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www.buttcrazy.com and they'll agree to have sex with you (even you
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woman persons).
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Some echos are created to spite someone, or to make fun, and hang
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around as a six-month joke that was funny once, a long time ago.
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It's also sad that instead of finding some way of working together,
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these various Zone1 distrution systems, and the ZEC and a good
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majority of Fidonet sysops still feel that "vote with your feet" and
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"you are free to choose your feed from any source" are viable
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statements to make, since there is no answer to why things are done
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(or not done) the way they are done. It's no longer vote with your
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feet... it's use your feet to run around chasing down an echo that
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works well and is available where you want/need it to be, or just
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vote with a yawn, `cause you're tired of the whole thing.
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You know, that "www.HampsterDance.com" thing really is fun after
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all! :-)
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 4 3 Apr 2000
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*Paul*
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Triple Play
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Doug Myers
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Why were the last three editions of Fidonews released simultaneously
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to the echo FIDONEWS on March 30th? You can lay the blame on the
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inattentiveness of your editor <sigh>.
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Each Monday's edition of Fidonews is normally published on the
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preceding Sunday night before midnight. The initial stages of
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publication are manual - throughout the week as articles are sent
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here via internet or netmail, I'll save them as ASCII files and then
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use a text editor to strip lines added by mail processors and, if
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necessary, reformat the text to fit the requirements of the software
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which assembles the newsletter.
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On Sunday night, I'll compile a pre-release copy of the Fidonews zip
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file. This is examined for correctness and completeness and
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recompiled as many times as is necessary to get it right. Normally
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by 10PM I'll have the archive in it's final form, ready for
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distribution.
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Distribution is automated and consists of the following operations:
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1. The final zip file is hatched into the FILEBONE for distribution
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throughout Fidonet.
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2. An email message with a Mime (base 64) file attachment of the
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zip archive is prepared. This is distributed over the internet
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to a small mailing list. One of these copies is sent to
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FIDONEWS.ORG and converted by Jim Barchuk into an HTML version
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accessible to a WEB browser.
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3. The newsletter itself is formatted into echomail messages and
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distributed via the echo FIDONEWS.
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This third step is what failed three weeks ago. I use a utility
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donated by Peter Karlsson to format Fidonews into echomail messages.
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The output of his utility is in PKT format ready for tossing.
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Unfortunately, a month ago the trial period for my Shareware tosser,
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Fastecho, expired. I attempted to register via the U.S. Support
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BBS, only to find it not in existence any longer. The registration
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information listed a WEB site which handles registration, but when I
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logged on the WEB site didn't even mention Fastecho, let alone offer
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a means of registration.
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Since the mailer announced that it would stop operating in 30 days
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and to buy more time until I could find out if the product was still
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supported or else change all my message bases from JAM format to
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SQUISH format (to use Squish as my tosser), I reinstalled the
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shareware archive to another directory. Unfortunately, I forgot to
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 5 3 Apr 2000
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change the batch files which control distribution of Fidonews, and I
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was sending the PKTs for the FIDONEWS echo to the old directory
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which was no longer being used by the tosser.
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So three editions of Fidonews were not published in the FIDONEWS
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in a timely manner, but released simultaneously on March 30th when
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Dale Ship informed me of my error.
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 6 3 Apr 2000
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COLUMNS
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This Weeks Web Page
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by Frank Vest
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1:124/6308(.1)
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What: Welcome to Michael Lynn's Homepage
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Where:http://www.people.unt.edu/~mikelynn/.
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You're probably wondering what this personal web page has to do with
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Fidonet and BBS. Two things....
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It's an Amiga computer page
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It's a link to the Bard's Tavern Homepage at:
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http://www.people.unt.edu/~mikelynn/bards.html
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Michael's page starts with a little about himself and his work.
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There's an introduction to the BBS page with link. Also mentioned is
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the fact that he is an Amiga tech. Below this are links to Amiga
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pages as well as links to interests of Michael's.
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Clicking on the link to the Bard's Tavern Homepage, you find
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yourself at a page that gives a description of the BBS and such.
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Since Michael is so good at telling this and the page is mostly
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text, I'll let him do the talking. :) Here's the cut & paste:
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----
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Bard's Tavern Info Page
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If you have a modem and are interested you can connect to the Bard's
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Tavern via terminal by calling (940)243-5110, this number is GTE
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metro. The Tavern is a member of both Fidonet and DALNET bbs
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networks and will soon join C-Link. My Fidonet address is
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michael.lynn@1:393/7.0 or via Dalnet michael lynn@2001/2010/8.0 For
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more information on the local bbs scene click on over to the Denton
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Area BBS List. This fantastic guide is maintained by Walter Bowen of
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the Mezzanine BBS.
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The Bard's Tavern is Denton's only Amiga bbs in addition to being
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one of it's oldest, it was originally started to be a source for
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Amiga support in North Texas, since then it has become much more.
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Now all platforms are welcome and the Tavern is considered a source
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for great multi-platform multimedia files like jpeg, mpeg, s3m, xm,
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mp3, and mod files. If files are not your thing the bbs offers
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dozens of online games and interesting text files in addition to
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networked message areas that are similar to internet news. The
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Bard's Tavern DOES NOT CARRY ADULT SOFTWARE OR PIRATED FILES and has
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no plans to do so in the future, the bbs is designed for a mature
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but not necessarily adult crowd. Graphic artists and digital
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musicians are especially welcomed. Science fiction and anime are
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also an area of shared interest for our online community.
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 7 3 Apr 2000
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----
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As you can see Michael tells it pretty well. :) Below this section
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is more text and a few small graphics giving more information about
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the software and hardware used as well as links to sources and other
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vendors.
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The one thing that stood out was the lack of graphics. I'm not
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complaining and I'll again let Michael explain.
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----
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As with all my pages, I have tried to make this as lean as possible
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with minimal graphics for fast loads for those of you who access the
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net via modem. I also DO NOT plan to add frames or animated .gif's.
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----
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Nice page and very informational. Check it out if you're into Amiga
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computers and if you want to see what an Amiga BBS looks and works
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like, call the Bard's Tavern. :)
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Wishing everybody well,
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Frank - flv@texoma.net
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~~~~~~~~ Words To Live By~~~~~~~~~
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Found floatinfg on on Ol'WDB's screen
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ICQ17773628
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1. Anger is a condition in which the tongue works
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faster than the mind. (Or fingers on a keyboard).
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2. You can't change the past, but you can ruin the
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present by carrying baggage of the past.
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3. Love and kindness with respect for others and you
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shall be loved.
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4. Always give your best to those who leave
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their best for others.
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5. All people smile and laugh in the same language.
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6. A hug is a great gift..one size fits all. It can
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be given for any occasion and it's easy to exchange.
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7. Everyone needs to be loved...especially when they do not
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deserve it, or got off track in a snit or conniption.
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8. The real measure of a man's wealth is what he has
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invested in eternity.
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 8 3 Apr 2000
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9. Laughter is God's sunshine for the soul.
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10. Everything has beauty but not everyone sees it.
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11. It's important for parents to live the same things they
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teach.
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12. Thank God for what you have, TRUST GOD for what you
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need.
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13. If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the
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worries of tomorrow,
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you have no today to be thankful for.
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14. Happy memories never wear out....relive them as often as
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you want.
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15. Home is the place where we grumble the most, but
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are often treated the best.
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16. Man looks at outward appearance but the Lord looks
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within.
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17. The choice you make today will usually affect tomorrow.
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18. Take time to laugh for it is the music of the soul.
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19. If anyone speaks badly of you, live so none
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will believe it.
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20. Patience is the ability to idle your motor when
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you feel like stripping your gears.
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21. Love is strengthened by working through conflicts
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together.
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22. The best thing parents can do for their children
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is to love each other.
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23. Harsh words break no bones but they do break hearts.
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24. To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through
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it.
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25. We take for granted the things that we should be
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giving thanks for.
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26. Love is the only thing that can be divided without
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being diminished.
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27. Happiness is enhanced by others but does not depend
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upon others.
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28. You are richer today if you have laughed, given
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or forgiven.
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 9 3 Apr 2000
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29. For every minute you are angry with someone,you
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lose 60 seconds of happiness that you can never
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get back.
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30. Do what you can, for who you can, with what you have,
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and where you are.
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31. The best gifts to give:
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To your friend - loyalty;
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To your enemy - forgiveness;
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To your boss - service;
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To a child - a good example;
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To your parents - gratitude and devotion;
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To your mate - love and faithfulness;
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To all men and women - charity; and
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To your God - your life.
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
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WarBonD777@aol.com
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 10 3 Apr 2000
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NET HUMOR
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Oneliners
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1. Well, this day was a total waste of make-up.
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2. Make yourself at home! Clean my kitchen.
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3. Who are these kids and why are they calling me Mom?
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4. A hard-on doesn't count as personal growth.
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5. Don't bother me. I'm living happily ever after.
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6. Do I look like a freakin' people person?
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7. This isn't an office-It's Hell with fluorescent lighting.
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8. I started out with nothing & still have most of it left.
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9. I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me.
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10. If I throw a stick, will you leave?
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11. You! Off my planet!
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12. Therapy is expensive, poppin' bubble wrap is cheap! You choose.
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13. Practice random acts of intelligence & senseless acts of
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self-control.
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14. Bottomless pit of needs & wants.
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15. I like cats, too. Let's exchange recipes.
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16. Friendly checkout clerk. Thanks for keeping me that way!
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17. If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I'll put
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shoes on my Cat!
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18. Does your train of thought have a caboose?
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19. Did the aliens forget to remove your anal probe?
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20. Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
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21. And your cry-baby whiny-assed opinion would be...?
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22. I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood for 30 years.
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23. If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil...
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24. See no evil, hear no evil, date no evil.
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25. A PBS mind in an MTV world.
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26. Sarcasm is just one more service we offer.
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27. Whisper my favorite words: "I'll buy it for you."
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28. Better living through denial!
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29. Whatever kind of look you were going for, you missed.
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30. Suburbia: where they tear out the trees & then name streets
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after them.
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31. Adult child of alien invaders.
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32. Do they ever shut up on your planet?
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33. I'm just working here till a good fast-food job opens up.
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34. Are those your eyeballs? I found them in my cleavage.
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35. I'm not your type. I'm not inflatable.
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36. I'm trying to imagine you with a personality.
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37. A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door.
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38. Stress is when you wake up screaming & you realize you haven't
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fallen asleep yet.
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39. Mall whore: I can suck the numbers right off your credit cards.
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41. Here I am! Now what are your other two wishes?
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42. Back off! You're standing in my aura.
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43. I can't remember if I'm the good twin or the evil one.
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44. One of us is thinking about sex..... OK, it's me.
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45. How many times do I have to flush before you go away?
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46. I just want revenge. Is that so wrong?
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47. I work 40 hours a week to be this poor.
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48. You say I'm a bitch like it's a bad thing.
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49. Can I trade this job for what's behind door #2?
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50. Not all men are annoying. Some are dead.
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51. Too many freaks, not enough circuses.
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52. Chaos, panic, & disorder - my work here is done.
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53. Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.
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54. You look like shit. Is that the style now?
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55. I plead contemporary insanity.
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56. I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks.
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57. How do I set a laser printer to stun?
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58. It ain't the size, it's..... no wait-it IS the size.
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59. Meandering to a different drummer.
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60. I'm not tense, just terribly, terribly alert.
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COMIX IN ASCII
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Cool cows...
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** ((__)) * (__)
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^^^ ^^^ (oo) (oo)
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Cow during an
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Earthquake rollerscating cow
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O (___) ||
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(__) o o (__,
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Cow blowing bubbles. This cow plays hockey
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(__)
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>(==)
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/-------\/
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Ninja Cow
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INTERNET INFO
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=================================================================
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! = New entries this week
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? = not responding
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: April 1, 2000
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
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Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
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List server:
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http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
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Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
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Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 15: <vacant>
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Region 16: <vacant>
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: <Vacant>
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 14 3 Apr 2000
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
|
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
|
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
|
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(Chinese)
|
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|
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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|
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
|
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|
||
a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
|
||
address. The email is translated as follows
|
||
firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
|
||
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
|
||
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
|
||
would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
|
||
|
||
Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
|
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
|
||
time between when the message is received, and when it is
|
||
sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
|
||
defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
|
||
immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
|
||
FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 15 3 Apr 2000
|
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|
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|
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
|
||
|
||
v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
|
||
| email address or
|
||
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
|
||
| | |latency|
|
||
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
|
||
Zone 1 | | | |
|
||
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
|
||
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
|
||
12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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||
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
|
||
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
|
||
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
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||
106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
|
||
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
|
||
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
|
||
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
|
||
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
|
||
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
|
||
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
|
||
244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
|
||
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
|
||
271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
|
||
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
|
||
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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||
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
|
||
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
|
||
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
|
||
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
|
||
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
|
||
2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
|
||
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
|
||
3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
|
||
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
|
||
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|
||
Zone 2 |
|
||
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
|
||
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
|
||
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
|
||
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
|
||
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
|
||
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
|
||
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
FIDONEWS 17-14 Page 16 3 Apr 2000
|
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|
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
|
||
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
|
||
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
|
||
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
|
||
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
|
||
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
|
||
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
|
||
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
|
||
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
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|
||
Zone 3
|
||
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
|
||
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
|
||
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
|
||
|
||
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|
||
Zone 4
|
||
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
|
||
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
|
||
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
|
||
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
|
||
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------
|
||
Fidonet oriented news servers
|
||
|
||
news.osirusoft.com
|
||
news.tardis.net
|
||
|
||
Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
|
||
|
||
room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
|
||
irc.isonline.com
|
||
irc.killaz-r-us.com
|
||
irc.korombos.org
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
|
||
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses
|
||
here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
|
||
obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and
|
||
most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com
|
||
will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
|
||
stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com
|
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Masthead
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| |
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| Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com |
|
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| Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org |
|
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| Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com |
|
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| (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) |
|
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| Columnist: Warren D. Bonner, 1:103/401, wdbonner@pacbell.net |
|
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| (Warren uses the pen name "Ol'WDB") |
|
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| Humor: Roy Reed, rcreedv@juno.com |
|
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| Features: Frank Vest, 1:124/6308.1 |
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| |
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince |
|
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| Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, |
|
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| Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink |
|
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| |
|
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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|
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA
|
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94141, and are used with permission.
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|
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Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
|
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Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2000 by Douglas Myers, though authors
|
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retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinion expressed by
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the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication and
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distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are encouraged
|
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to send their articles in ASCII text to Douglas Myers at one of his
|
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addresses above.
|
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|
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The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file area
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FIDONEWS, and is published as echomail in the echo FIDONEWS. These
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sources are normally available through your Network Coordinator.
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The current and past issues are also available from the following
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sources:
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| |
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| Freq FIDONEWS @ 1:270/720, 1:140/1, or 1:396/1 |
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| ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ |
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| ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ |
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| http://www.fidonews.org |
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| email subscription: majordomo@fidonews.org |
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| (subject: help body: list) |
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| ftp mail: ftpmail@fidonews.org (subject: help) |
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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