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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 01 03 Jan 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Broken Filebone .......................................... 1
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2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
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My Thoughts on Fidonet ................................... 2
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 5
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Are They Really Gone? .................................... 5
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4. COLUMNS .................................................. 6
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 6
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Ol'WDB: Mathematical Explanation ......................... 9
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5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 11
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Ten Commandments ......................................... 11
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Surgery .................................................. 11
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6. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 12
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Cow-lliope in the Circus Parade .......................... 12
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7. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 13
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It's a Web Page .......................................... 13
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8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 15
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Masthead ................................................. 15
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 1 3 Jan 2000
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EDITORIAL
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Broken Filebone
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Doug Myers
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Welcome to the first edition of Fidonews in the year 2000.
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Hopefully, you all will be getting a copy of this millennium
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edition, because there are at least two barriers to distribution
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right now.
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The first is with my system. I was overjoyed when the year 2000
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rolled over and the mail I wrote appeared to be correctly dated, the
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old copy of Front Door 2.02 appeared to move it just fine, and the
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computer was still up. Then I discovered that the external utility
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used to post Fidonews to the FIDONEWS echo incorrectly dated the
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mail. Fortunately, Peter Karlsson's Azure 300 utility correctly
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dates the messages used to post Fidonews, so we'll give it a try for
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a while.
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The second is that the FILEBONE appears to be broken in the middle.
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Ever since the NAB and the Z1B established a new link (Matt
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Bedynek/Ken Wilson) to replace the old link (John Souvestre/George
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Peace), some or all FILEBONE files haven't been flowing back and
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forth. Two weeks ago, I began distributing Fidonews through John
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Souvestre, who promptly distributed it to the systems associated
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with the Z1B. Bob Seaborn noticed Fidonews was not showing up on
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the NAB side, so he FTP'd a copy from Souvestre's system and
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distributed it. Until the FILEBONE is repaired, I'll be crashing a
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ticked copy of Fidonews to both John Souvestre and Bob Seaborn, both
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of whom have bent over backwards to keep Fidonews flowing.
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Theoretically, the FILEBONE is a seperate entity from any of the
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echomail backbones. However, files have traditionally followed
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echomail paths at the zone distribution level. I'm not sure why
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Matt and Ken have changed that - I've not had an opportunity to
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discuss it with either - but there's nothing but tradition and the
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spirit of cooperation to make them move files along with echomail.
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Here's hoping that they either agree to move files or the FILEBONE
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sets up an alternative path.
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 2 3 Jan 2000
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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My Thoughts on Fidonet
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Darrell Salter
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1:12/0
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This is the second edition of "My Thoughts on Fidonet", the original
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being written a couple of years ago when I was the NC (Network
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Coordinator) of Net 229. Things have played out pretty much as I
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predicted then, and it is interesting to look back and see just what
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has transpired since. I almost left Fidonet back then, but after
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some prompting from a few of the good folks in Region 12, I decided
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to return to see if I could help.
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What has happened since the first incarnation of "My Thoughts"? Not
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much. Fidonet continues to shrink, P4 is still in place, Zone 1 has
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a new Zone Coordinator, and the old Zone Coordinator has become the
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International Coordinator. Yeesh!
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Fidonet in Zone #1 continues to die as nodes disappear. The node
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list is still populated with downed nodes that are, for the most
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part, unreachable. Why? Same deal. "The Internet has decimated
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Fidonet, and that will continue to be the trend until we have just
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the diehards left. Anyone else is kidding themselves."
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It is still my opinion that the people we hoped would lead us into
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the 21st century have failed us miserably. At the top of the list is
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the IC (International Coordinator), Bob Satti. He has taken his
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"plays the fiddle while Rome burns" philosophy to the IC slot, and
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is just as useless there as he was in the Z1C seat. Sorry Bob, I
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still call them as I see them.
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Next would be, naturally, the ZCs. They too, do little to promote
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this great hobby of ours, and I consider the Z1C a friend of mine,
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so it pains me to to say this. Still, the ills of Fidonet are not
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being addressed with sufficient energy from the top, and if the head
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dies, the body follows.
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What's to be done? I said this last time, and it's still true today
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-- "P4 and it's power-mongering structure created an unhealthy
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environment for sysops. People don't want to be ruled over when it
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comes to their free time and hobbies. If we look at making a choice
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between the Internet, and it's free and open, unaccountable
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environment, and Fidonet, with it's Elflords and power-trippers, the
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choice for hobbiests becomes clear, and the Internet wins hands
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down. The *C structure needed to dethrone themselves and throw the
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doors wide open years ago if we were to progress and keep interest.
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That didn't happen, and it has resulted in what we have today. It's
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a crying shame."
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Tom Jennings predicted this, and lo and behold, he was right. The
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*Cs are nodelist clerks, not administrative seats of power.
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 3 3 Jan 2000
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"I don't blame sysops for their lack of support for the people with
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vision. Why should they care? As long as they get their favorite
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echos, they are free to go surfing on the Internet to have fun. If
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they had to make a choice between Fidonet and the Internet, Fidonet
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would die immediately. If the mail-movers ever pulled up stakes,
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Fidonet would die immediately. Many have done exactly that. This
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thing is in a coma and on life support, and people like us are
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keeping it alive, hoping for a recovery. The prognosis is not good."
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Since I first said that, we have lost gryn.org, a Fidonet gateway
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that served many, many systems.
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"Here's why. Look at it this way, if you have a computer and a modem
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and enough time to enjoy a hobby, what are you going to choose? The
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Internet with all it has to offer; email, web sites, chat rooms,
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search engines, FTP, video streaming, real-time features, and
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millions of people to interact with the world over? Or Fidonet, with
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it's power-trippers, policy documents and rules, difficult
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configurations, dead or dying echos, and dead end phone numbers? Who
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in their right mind would choose Fidonet? People have voted with
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their feet, and the Internet is the big winner, Fidonet the big
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loser."
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And Fidonet continues to lose. I see it every day in the Z1C and
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FN_SYSOP echos. Bull-headed, egotistical power-trippers that
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continue to be condescending to the average sysop, while doing
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little to actually change this thing for the better.
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"The only chance Fidonet has in my opinion, is to pull down it's
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hierarchy, embrace the Internet, and flood it with what we have left
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of the telnettable systems and web sites, and get up to speed with
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html/cgi message bases and BBSes, and start implementing the
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Internet technologies. The nodelist needs to be redesigned to
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accomodate Internet sites immediately. There are some people that
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have the right idea, such as the Fidonet Web Ring, which links
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Fidonet systems and BBSes around the world on the Internet. But make
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no mistake, even if we embrace the Internet, as soon as we try to
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impose the ludicrous standards and power tripping mentality our
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present administration has imposed on us, to the people of the
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Internet, we'll lose them too, and it'll finally be over."
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To his credit, the present Z1C, David Moufarrege, has seen the
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light, and is actively promoting the Internet as a viable means of
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transport for our product. He has initiated a transformation of the
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nodelist to include Internet systems. He is also attempting to
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re-write P4 into P-somethingelse. He is to be applauded for his
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efforts. I don't agree with him 100%, but at least he's trying.
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"Again, the only chance is to pull down Satti and the Elflords,
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embrace the Internet as our last chance for survival, and encourage
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people like David Hallford and Dave Hamilton to address the issues
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of bringing the nodelist to the Internet and into the 20th century.
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We need to encourage people like Shawn (Tiny) Highfield, to continue
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to develop Internet tools for BBS systems. We need to encourage the
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gateways systems like the Northern and Southern Stars, to continue
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to develop Internet strategies for distribution of our product. We
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 4 3 Jan 2000
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need to seek out people with vision and put them into the positions
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to make it all happen. Our failure to seek out the right people will
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be our epitath. Until I see that happen, we'll continue to slide
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deeper into our coma, and eventually even life support will fail."
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Since I wrote that, David Hallford and Dave Hamilton are no longer
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in Fidonet. Shawn Highfield barely keeps a Fidonet system current
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and involved. George Peace, a senior Fidonet statesman has pulled
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down his Fidonet Gateway, and instead of continuing to develop
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Internet strategies, most of the "Stars" have indulged themselves in
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bitterness, bickering, and backbiting as they fight over what sysops
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are left. Other major hubs and distribution points have become
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complacent or overbearing (there is no shortage of egomaniacs in
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Fidonet). The end is closer than ever, perilously close, and now we
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are at the year 2000. That's bound to kill off some more Fidonet
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nodes as old softwares croak on the date changes.
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Doesn't look good, does it?
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 5 3 Jan 2000
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ARTICLES
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ARE THEY REALLY GONE?
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Lesley-Dee Dylan
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1:250/201
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Much has been said about former members of FidoNet and why they
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left, but have they ever completely left, or are we still in their
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hearts?
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I recently heard from an old friend, Luke Kolin. He was, years ago,
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Region 12 Coordinator, and for many years NC and/or NEC of Net 250.
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How did he contact me? By looking me up in the Toronto phone book?
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By looking in the Fido nodelist for my BBS number? No - he sent an
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email to Snooze editor Douglas Myers, asking for my email address.
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How many others of our old companions continue to read our Snooze?
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If you are out there lurking, please let us hear from you. Have you
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moved to another city, or another country? Did you feel you had
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outgrown Fido as you reached maturity, and moved on, but still miss
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the comraderie, or the squabbles? Tell us. Send an email to
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Douglas (address on the masthead) or to me at hippy@to.org. There
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are many who would like to hear from you.
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For those who remember Luke, he is now living and working in
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Atlanta.
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 6 3 Jan 2000
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COLUMNS
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! = New entries this week
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? = not responding
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: Dec 26, 1999
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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!Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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List server:
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http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
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Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
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Region 14:
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 7 3 Jan 2000
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
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time between when the message is received, and when it is
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sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
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defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
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immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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| | |latency|
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| $??/$10
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10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP | T1,! | n/c
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12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | DS-3,5| $5/$15 mo
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
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107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3,30 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
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244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
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2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
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3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 9 3 Jan 2000
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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--
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
|
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
|
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----------------------------------------------
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Fidonet oriented news servers
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news.osirusoft.com
|
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news.tardis.net
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|
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Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
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|
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room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
|
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irc.isonline.com
|
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irc.killaz-r-us.com
|
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irc.korombos.org
|
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|
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----------------------------------------------
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|
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
|
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
|
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complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
|
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|
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|
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|
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Mathematical Explanation as to Why Idiots often get Promoted
|
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Ol'WDB
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In case you've ever wondered why ignorance rises to the executive
|
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level, here is a simple explanation that is also a mathematical
|
||
proof.
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|
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FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 10 3 Jan 2000
|
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|
||
|
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Also if you get big pay raises, maybe someone is trying to tell you
|
||
something.
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|
||
1. Knowledge is Power
|
||
2. Time is Money and,
|
||
as every engineer knows:
|
||
3. Work/Power = Time
|
||
|
||
If Knowledge = Power,
|
||
and Time = Money
|
||
then #3 becomes:
|
||
3a. Work/Knowledge = Money
|
||
or,
|
||
3b. Money = Work/Knowledge
|
||
|
||
Thus Money approaches infinity as Knowledge approaches zero,
|
||
regardless of the Work done.
|
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What this means is:
|
||
The LESS you Know, the MORE you Make!
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
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|
||
FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 11 3 Jan 2000
|
||
|
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|
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=================================================================
|
||
NET HUMOR
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Ten Commandments
|
||
Thanks to Roy Reed
|
||
rcreed@juno.com
|
||
|
||
|
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My uncle spent days looking for the new hat he lost. Finally, he
|
||
decided that he'd go to church on Sunday and sit at the back. During
|
||
the service he would sneak out and grab a hat from the rack at the
|
||
front door.
|
||
|
||
On Sunday, he went to church and sat at the back. The sermon was
|
||
about the 10 Commandments. He sat through the whole sermon and
|
||
instead of sneaking out he went to talk to the minister.
|
||
|
||
He said to the minister, "Father, I came here today to steal a hat
|
||
to replace the one I lost. But after hearing your sermon on the 10
|
||
Commandments, I changed my mind."
|
||
|
||
The minister said, "Bless you my son. Was it when I started to
|
||
preach thou shall not steal, that changed your heart?"
|
||
|
||
My uncle responded, "No, it was the one on adultery. When you
|
||
started to preach on that, I remembered where I left my hat."
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Surgery
|
||
Thanks to Ol'WDB
|
||
|
||
A man goes to the doctor complaining that one of his testicles has
|
||
turned blue. After examination the doctor tells his patient that the
|
||
testicle has to be removed to save his life. With some reluctance
|
||
the operation is performed.
|
||
|
||
Two weeks later the second testicle has turned blue. Again it's
|
||
either death or amputation so the second testicle goes.
|
||
|
||
Another two weeks pass and the penis has turned blue. Now the penis
|
||
must go.
|
||
|
||
"But how will I pee?"
|
||
|
||
"We'll install a plastic tube."
|
||
|
||
More time passes and the patient is back again. This time the
|
||
plastic tube has turned blue.
|
||
|
||
"Hmmm. Maybe it's the new blue jeans."
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 12 3 Jan 2000
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
COMIX IN ASCII
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
______________________
|
||
| |\
|
||
| (__) | |
|
||
| (oo) | |
|
||
| \/ | |
|
||
| / \ \ | |
|
||
///////// \_ \_/////// |
|
||
| | / | | (__)
|
||
| /++++++< | | _____(oo)
|
||
|==/====|==\=\=========|=|===========================\\/
|
||
| * | \_\_ | | / | ||
|
||
_______O)-----^---------------\O)_________________*__||----||_____
|
||
|
||
cow-lliope in the circus parade
|
||
|
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 13 3 Jan 2000
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
It's a Web Page
|
||
Frank Vest
|
||
1:124/6308.1
|
||
|
||
Hello Readers,
|
||
|
||
It's a Web Page, or site, if you will. Not a fancy one, nor one with
|
||
lot's of banners and ads. The page has links. Lot's of links! In
|
||
fact, almost the whole site is links. There are links to Fidonet
|
||
pages all over the world. Links to sites with information on Fidonet
|
||
and not just english or American.
|
||
|
||
Why did I put the site up on the Internet?
|
||
|
||
Simple, I love Fidonet. I had to get Internet access for my children
|
||
because the schools here are always asking the children to "search
|
||
the Internet" for their school work. Since the ISP I go through
|
||
gives 5 megs of Web space, I decided to put up a page. What kind of
|
||
page? Of course, it has to be Fidonet! :) When I first started
|
||
creating the page, I thought one page would do. It would be for my
|
||
BBS and that would be it. Whew! Was I wrong!! As time went on, this
|
||
site grew. I think there are some 5 or more pages here now. Probably
|
||
over 100 links to other Fidonet and BBS sites.
|
||
|
||
Ok, so what will you find here?
|
||
|
||
As above, links! You'll find links to Zones, Regions, Nets and
|
||
Nodes. Informational pages and even be able to read Policy 4 online.
|
||
You can grab a copy of the Nodelist or surf to "Other Strange and
|
||
Wonderful Places". If you look hard enough, you'll find a page about
|
||
me and my family. :)
|
||
|
||
So, why am I writing this?
|
||
|
||
I want more links! I want more people to visit! I want to promote
|
||
Fidonet! If you have a page that is related to Fidonet, BBS's or
|
||
other "Fido" type Nets, let me know. Visit the page and E-Mail me
|
||
about the page. I'll look it over and if it fits, I'll put a link on
|
||
the site. If you like my site, please put a link to it on you page.
|
||
|
||
Oh yeah! The address :-)
|
||
|
||
http://texoma.net/~flv
|
||
|
||
You'll see a spinning world when the page comes up. Click on it and
|
||
you're there. Look the site over. You might be surprised at what
|
||
you'll find. :)
|
||
|
||
With kind regards,
|
||
|
||
Frank - flv@texoma.net
|
||
FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 14 3 Jan 2000
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 17-01 Page 15 3 Jan 2000
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FIDONEWS INFORMATION
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Masthead
|
||
|
||
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
|
||
| |
|
||
| Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com |
|
||
| Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org |
|
||
| Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com |
|
||
| (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) |
|
||
| Columnist: Warren D. Bonner, 1:103/401, wdbonner@pacbell.net |
|
||
| (Warren uses the pen name "Ol'WDB") |
|
||
| Humor: Roy Reed, rcreed@juno.com |
|
||
| |
|
||
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
|
||
|
||
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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|
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|
||
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|
||
| Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink |
|
||
| |
|
||
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
|
||
|
||
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
||
trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA
|
||
94141, and are used with permission.
|
||
|
||
Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
|
||
Fidonews is Copyright (C) 1999 by Douglas Myers, though authors
|
||
retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinion expressed by
|
||
the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication and
|
||
distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are encouraged
|
||
to send their articles in ASCII text to Douglas Myers at one of his
|
||
addresses above.
|
||
|
||
The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file area
|
||
FIDONEWS, and is published as echomail in the echo FIDONEWS. These
|
||
sources are normally available through your Network Coordinator.
|
||
The current and past issues are also available from the following
|
||
sources:
|
||
|
||
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- - FIDONEWS AVAILABILITY - -- -- -- -- -- -- +
|
||
| |
|
||
| Freq FIDONEWS @ 1:270/720, 1:140/1, or 1:396/1 |
|
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| ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ |
|
||
| ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ |
|
||
| http://www.fidonews.org |
|
||
| email subscription: majordomo@fidonews.org |
|
||
| (subject: help body: list) |
|
||
| ftp mail: ftpmail@fidonews.org (subject: help) |
|
||
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|
||
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