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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 48 29 Nov 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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(__) (__)(__) (__) (__) (__)
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(oo) + (oo)(oo) = (oo) (oo) (oo)
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\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/
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You can cownt on Fidonews...
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Table of Contents
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1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
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Keeping Echomail in perspective .......................... 1
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Ukraine CoModerator disconnects Moderator ................ 2
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2. COLUMNS .................................................. 4
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 4
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God's Work ............................................... 7
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ECHO TALK - Fidonews is American-Oriented ................ 8
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3. NET HUMOR ................................................ 10
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My Good Deed ............................................. 10
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In Days of Old ........................................... 10
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4. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 12
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The Milky Way ............................................ 12
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5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 13
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Masthead ................................................. 13
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 1 29 Nov 1999
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ARTICLES
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Keeping Echomail in perspective
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* By Joe Jared (1:103/301) joejared@osirusoft.com
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In order to understand the failure of echomail we must also
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look at the success of Usenet newsgroups. Our audience of
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10 years ago has gone to newsgroups, and fidonet's survival
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is dependent on finding new ways of doing things.
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A few statistics about the delivery of echomail. Between a
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few of the major distribution systems there are close to 800
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echoes, roughly speaking. All totaled, about 3 megabytes of
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uncompressed mail flow through the backbone. Of these
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echoes, close to 200 of these echoes have had zero traffic
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in the past 30 days, and some have had no traffic in months.
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In my own logs, the following are the top 10 areas:
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EchoMail Traffic
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Period: 1999-10-26 to 1999-11-21
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AREA NAME TOTAL AVERAGE TRAFFIC
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REC.ARTS.COMICS.STRIPS 1958 72 2.37% !
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POLITICS 2162 80 2.62%
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REC.AQUARIA.MARINE.REEFS 2207 81 2.68% !
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HOLYSMOKE 2339 86 2.84%
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REC.AUTOS.TECH 2779 102 3.37% !
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COMP.DCOM.XDSL 2922 108 3.54% !
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COMP.LANG.C 3541 131 4.29% !
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REC.RADIO.CB 3919 145 4.75% !
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REC.MOTORCYCLES 5639 208 6.84% !
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REC.AUTOS.SPORT.NASCAR 6020 222 7.30% !
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Note that there is no central theme to the above list,
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except that political and religious discussions were the
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only things that were able to make it into the top 10 areas.
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Looking at my nightly logs from my own news server confirms
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that the top listed gated newsgroups are also reflected in
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the list. There is no bias, and occasional posts in
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1backbone also reflect this fact.
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Excluding newsgroups, for the usenet impaired, and simply
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going with echoes, the "winners" last month in volume
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were...
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Z1_BACKBONE 585 21 0.71%
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WIN95 642 23 0.78%
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ABORTION 655 24 0.79%
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FILK 821 30 1.00%
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MEMORIES 825 30 1.00%
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Z1C 853 31 1.03%
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 2 29 Nov 1999
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ECHOLIST 876 32 1.06%
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FN_SYSOP 941 34 1.14%
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OS2 1054 39 1.28%
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COOKING 1250 46 1.52%
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LINUX 1312 48 1.59%
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FUNNY 1451 53 1.76%
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POLITICS 2162 80 2.62%
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HOLYSMOKE 2339 86 2.84%
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Given the above statistics, I personally am left to wonder
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what would happen if we collectively spent as much energy
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improving fidonet as we did fighting with each other. If
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something isn't done to reduce or eliminate unnecessary
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control and bickering, we will likely become a network of
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administrators, with nothing to administer. As we are now,
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we're truely unimportant in the big scheme of mail movers,
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excluding the fact that this is just a hobby.
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In our prime, it wasn't uncommon to see 10000+ messages per
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day. We've shrunk, and yet Usenet distribution has increased
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to well over 20GB/day and when including binaries, over
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60GB+/day.
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In one area, I see our network becoming more anarchistic
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each day, which contrary to the stigma of the word, is a
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good thing. When people get truely sick of the bickering
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and groping for power, alternatives are available. The
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fidonet via internet list is primarily intended to provide
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these alternatives, and one I have found to work well for
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many. The war isn't over mind you, as suspicions of Jim
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Balcom's known Z1B bias becomes more visible. What neither
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Jim, the NAB, nor the Z1B appear to realize is that none of
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them individually are all that important. The ONLY
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important thing about echomail is that it gets distributed
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efficiently, and with few incidents. The personalities
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behind the tossers don't mean squat to downlink systems,
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except when they find a message from one of the
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personalities.
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FidoNews is supposed to be a newsletter of the whole Fido, but it
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looks like it's only American. So... Here's a short article on
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current evevts in 2:463.
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Comod Disconnects Mod For Unwarranted Moderation.
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Ruslan Kondratskiy, the comoderator of KIEV.TALKS, got his power
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together with another comod Al Yatsenko, and the moderator Juliy
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Chirkov on June'99 election. In some months, Juliy Chirkov had to
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quit Fido and appointed Al Yatsenko a temporary moderator. Ruslan
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agreed with the fact of the appointment, but doubted Al's full
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power. Still the echo lived its life, Ruslan put moderatorials, Al
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just supervised a bit. But a lot of people started complaining on
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 3 29 Nov 1999
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Ruslan's activity to NE463C, because Comod started punishing for
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"numerous crossposts" or "non-permitted forward". NE463C promised to
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start new elections. Meanwhile, Al, the officially appointed
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"temporary moderator", published a moderatorial letter, proclaiming
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amnesty for all, punished by Ruslan. Then the Comod... put
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moderatorial [!] (disconnection) to Al for "unwarranted moderation".
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The Mod answered by putting [!] to Ruslan. Echo couldn't stop
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laughing. The conflict was solved by Vadim Serkov, the NE463C, who
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took KIEV.TALKS under his personal control till the elections.
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Andrei Besedin with best wishes from Kiev, Ukraine.
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 4 29 Nov 1999
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COLUMNS
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! = New entries this week
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? = not responding
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: Nov 21, 1999
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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List server: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Region 14:
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 5 29 Nov 1999
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
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12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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103/328 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k | n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo.
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | $5 mo
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL | n/c
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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270/101 @ George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
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271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 6 29 Nov 1999
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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345/0 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
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2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
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2624/306 @ D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
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3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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3803/1 @ Ben Ritchey | UUE | 56k | n/c
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 7 29 Nov 1999
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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--
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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Fidonet oriented news servers
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news.osirusoft.com (US west coast)
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? agnese.fidoitalia.net (Italy)
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news.tardis.net
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Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
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room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
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irc.isonline.com
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irc.killaz-r-us.com
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irc.korombos.org
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
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complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
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God's Work
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In the beginning there was Aristotle,
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And objects at rest tended to remain at rest,
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And objects in motion tended to come to rest,
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And God saw that is was boring.
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Then God created Newton,
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And objects at rest tended to remain at rest,
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And objects in motion tended to remain in motion,
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And energy was conserved, and momentum was conserved,
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and matter was conserved,
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And God saw that is was conservative.
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Then God created Einstein,
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And everything was relative,
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And fast things became short,
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And straight things became curved,
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And the universe was filled with inertial frames,
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And God saw that it was relatively general,
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but some saw it as especially relative.
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---------------------------------------unknown
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 8 29 Nov 1999
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Then God created Fidonet,
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And there was the principle,
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And the principle was Policy 4.07,
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And all things were quantified,
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But some things were still relative,
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And God saw that it was confusing.
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Then God created an Election Guide,
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As an election would/should unify,
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And he would have peace in theory,
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And all would be as one, rosy and merry.
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But it was the seventh day and God rested!
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Meanwhile the old Elflords did their work,
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Screaming Pee Four forever more,
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We will reign no matter the pain,
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The nominations , the seconds, the acceptances...
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Don't really mean a damn thing,
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not until Old policy 4.07 is finally slain!!!
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Ol'wdb extension on God's Work, author unknown
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Fidonews is American-Oriented
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This week's Echo Talk column is drawn from FIDONEWS, the echo to
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talk about this newsletter. The author, Jodi Crisp, wasn't the
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first one to comment on the subject (as can be seen from the quotes
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she included), but her message drew the most response... including
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one from Andrei Besedin who's article appears in this issue.
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My sweetest friend,
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17 Nov 99 14:14, Matt Bedynek wrote to Malcolm Miles:
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MM>> And anyone outside Zone 1 found it utterly boring.
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MB> Not that I care for political stuff, but how come other zones
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MB> don't submit articles of any type? I would actually like to know
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MB> whats going on in other zones (not polically), but general stuff.
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I have found that Fidonews does seem to be very America -oriented. I
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found it interesting to read about a bit of the political stuff, but
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after a while it did go on a bit- i mean, maybe it's interesting to
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who it is relevant to, but it would be nice to see articles from
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other countries sometimes at least.
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 9 29 Nov 1999
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Love and other grievous bodily harm, jodiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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-!- FMail 1.22
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! Origin: jc1198@ecs.soton.ac.uk (2:440/226.6)
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Though Fidonews isn't intended to be Zone 1 oriented, I've got to
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admit that this is the result. I can think of several reasons for
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this: Fidonews was started here at a time when the other zones
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didn't exist; not all countries speak English as a first language...
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But there's one premptive reason for the Zone 1 orientation - there
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just aren't too many contributions to the Snooze from other zones.
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Even when Henk Wolsink published from Zone 6, I was often the sole
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contributor... and I just don't have the sophistication to supply an
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international orientation. I've never lived outside the states of
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Pennsylvania and New Jersey in the Eastern United States.
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But then, my own lack of international orientation is easily
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overcome... all it takes is input from sysops in other zones. As a
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matter of fact, I've tried soliciting from other zones, but without
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much success. I kinda hope Jodi takes up the invitation expressed
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in the FIDONEWS echo to write some articles herself. I have a
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feeling her "Love and other grievous bodily harm" is a more powerful
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incentive than any *I* could offer :)
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 10 29 Nov 1999
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NET HUMOR
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My Good Deed
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Thanks to Roy Reed
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rcreedv@juno.com
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A guy arrives at the pearly gates, waiting to be admitted. St.
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Peter is reading through the Big Book to see if the guy's name is
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written in it. After several minutes, St. Peter closes the book,
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furrows his brow, and says, "I'm sorry, I don't see your name
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written in the Book."
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"How current is your copy?" he asks.
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"I get a download every ten minutes." St. Peter replies, "Why do
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you ask?"
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"I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I was always the stubborn type.
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It was not until my death was imminent that I cried out to God,
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so my name probably hasn't arrived to your copy yet."
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"I'm glad to hear that, "Pete says, "but while we're waiting for
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the update to come through, can you tell me about a really good
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deed that you did in your life?"
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The guys thinks for a moment and says, "Hmmm, well there was this
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one time when I was driving down a road and I saw a group of
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biker gang members harassing this poor girl. I slowed down, and
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sure enough, there they were, about 20 of them harassing this
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poor woman. Infuriated, I got out my car, grabbed a tire iron
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out of my trunk, and walked up to the leader of the gang. He was
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a huge guy; 6-foot-4, 260 pounds, with a studded leather jacket
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and a chain running from his nose to his ears. As I walked up to
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the leader, the bikers formed a circle around me and told me to
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get lost or I'd be next."
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"So I ripped the leader's chain out of his face and smashed him
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over the head with the tire iron. Then I turned around and
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yelled to the rest of them, 'Leave this poor innocent girl alone!
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You're all a bunch of SICK, deranged animals! Go home before I
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really teach you a lesson in PAIN!'"
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St. Peter, duly impressed, says "Wow! When did this happen"
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"About three minutes ago."
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In Days of Old...
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Thanks to Ol'WDB
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King Arthur was in Merlin's laboratory where the good wizard was
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showing him his latest invention. It was a chastity belt, except it
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 11 29 Nov 1999
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had a rather large hole in the most obvious place.
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"Why this is no good, Merlin!" the king exclaimed, "Just look at
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this opening. How is this supposed to protect m'lady, the Queen?"
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"Ah, sire, just observe," said Merlin.
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He then selected his most worn out wand, one that he was going to
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discard anyway. He inserted it in the gaping aperture of the
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chastity belt whereupon a small guillotine blade came down and cut
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it neatly in two.
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"Merlin, you are a genius!" exclaimed the grateful monarch. "Now I
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can leave, knowing that my Queen is fully protected." After putting
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Guinevere in the device, King Arthur then set out upon his Quest.
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Several years passed until he returned to Camelot. Immediately he
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assembled all of his knights in the courtyard and had them drop
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their trousers for an informal 'short arm' inspection. Sure enough,
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each and every one of them was either amputated or damaged in some
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way. All of them, except Sir Galahad.
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"Sir Galahad," exclaimed King Arthur."My one and only true knight.
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Only you among all the nobles have been true to me. What is it in
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my power to grant you? Name it and it is yours!"
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But, alas, Sir Galahad was speechless.
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FIDONEWS 16-48 Page 12 29 Nov 1999
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COMIX IN ASCII
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