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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 43 25 Oct 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Contributions ............................................ 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
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Joke from Andrei Fomenk .................................. 2
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"via Internet" suggestion by Joe Hillebrandt ............. 2
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Fido is Fun and a Web of Intrigue ........................ 3
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
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On the Subject of Beer ................................... 4
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IP Nodes And The Nodelist ................................ 5
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Beating on the ThomToms .................................. 7
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 9
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The Name of Ghandi ....................................... 9
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5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 10
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Hallowe'en Cows .......................................... 10
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6. NOTICES .................................................. 11
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Future History ........................................... 11
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7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 12
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 12
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs ................................ 13
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8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
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Masthead ................................................. 16
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EDITORIAL
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Contributions
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Fidonews won't begin with a hard-hitting editorial this week. The
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usualy muckraking has taken a back seat to a higher priority. I had
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lots of contributions, and I wanted to make sure to say "Thanks."
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Take a look through the issue and see if you don't agree that it's
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richer for the variety of input.
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I'm hoping this idea catches on...
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 2 25 Oct 1999
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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NOTE: This Message was originally addressed to mbox BBS from Andrei
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Fomenko and was forwarded to Fidonews by John Hentsch
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Well, It's just a test to write to another zone (#1 from #2)
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and a humorous thing too. I hope you like it. May be you'll post it.
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OR NOT! :-)
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A plane folls down. People inside of the plane are worried.
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The Stuardess says: "If one man jump out of the plane we won't foll
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down and everybody will survive..." There was an American citizen.
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He told I'll resque all of ya! Gimme whisky!" He drank it and beeing
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shaky jumped out shouting "FOR AMERICA!".... The plane kept folling
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down:-(
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There was a Franch man. He told: "OK, I'll resque all of
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you! Give me wine." He drank a LOT OF wine and jumped out shouting
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"FOR FRANCE!!"... But the plane still kept folling dawn :~~-(
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There was a Russian man. He told: "Hey! I'll resque all of
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you. Where is my Russian vodka?" He drank two bottles and shouting
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"For Africa" pushed out two black people out.....
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I hope you liked it.
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Ed: But is it politically correct? :)
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"via Internet" suggestion by Joe Hillebrandt
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Email originally to Joe Jared
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Joe,
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First, I'd like to thank you for helping Doug with the Fidonews
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stuff. As a reader (and habitual lurker), I want you to know that
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your efforts are appreciated, and read as well!
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I have an observation and suggestion that I would like to share with
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you, for action (or not!) as you see fit.
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Each week, we receive a listing of those kind individuals who make
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the Fido echomail feeds available via the internet. The list
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includes node numbers, names, connection details, and the price of
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the service. The one item it does not include is an internet EMail
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address to contact these indiviuals for more information. While one
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could always crashmail (or netmail) a message to them, it would seem
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logical that someone providing Fido services via the internet should
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also be contacted via the internet (through EMail).
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 3 25 Oct 1999
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Would it be possible to include EMail addresses (where available)
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for these individuals or companies listed?
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Tis just a thought... for your consideration...
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Again, thank you for all your efforts to keep Fido happy and
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healthy!
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Joe Hillebrandt
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jmh@jmh.cc
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1:363/341
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Ed: Joe Jared responded to this, but , unfortunately, I lost the
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copy I had. However, Joe responded even more eloquently by action.
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Check out the "virtual email" addresses in Joe's Fidonet by Internet
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Hubs column. These were actually introduced last week.
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Netmail from Steve Asher @ 3:800/432
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Hi Douglas!
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I enjoyed the current FidoNews, esp the Dr Thom / Mr Hide
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editorial, & used the lot for a log-on bulletin to show
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users that Fido can be fun as well as a web of intrigue. :)
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Cheers, Steve..
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ED: <sigh> I was hoping to give you an article which showed higher
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purpose. I was hoping to write an article about how Mother Theresa
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had signed on as a zone coordinator and had dedicated her zone to
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the improvement of the intellectually impoverished. But she didn't
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get around to it before she left her last office :(
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 4 25 Oct 1999
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ARTICLES
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ON THE SUBJECT OF BEER
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Thanks to Warren Bonner
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
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It was the accepted practice in Babylon 4,000 years ago that for a
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month after the wedding, the bride's father would supply his
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son-in-law with all the mead he could drink. Mead is a honey beer,
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and because their calendar was lunar based, this period was called
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the "honey month" or what we know today as the "honeymoon".
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Before thermometers were invented, brewers would dip a thumb or
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finger into the mix to find the right temperature for adding yeast.
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Too cold, and the yeast wouldn't grow. Too hot, and the yeast
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would die. This thumb in the beer is where we get the phrase "rule
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of thumb".
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In English pubs, ale is ordered by pints and quarts. So in old
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England, when customers got unruly, the bartender would yell at
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them to mind their own pints and quarts and settle down. It's
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where we get the phrase "mind your P's and Q's".
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Beer was the reason the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock. It's
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clear from the Mayflower's log that the crew didn't want to waste
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beer looking for a better site. The log goes on to state that the
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passengers "were hasted ashore and made to drink water that the
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seamen might have the more beer".
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After consuming a bucket or two of vibrant brew they called aul, or
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ale, the Vikings would head fearlessly into battle often without
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armor or even shirts. In fact, the term "berserk" means "bare shirt"
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in Norse, and eventually took on the meaning of their wild battles.
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In 1740, Admiral Vernon of the British fleet decided to water down
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the rum. Needless to say, the sailors weren't too pleased and called
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Admiral Vernon Old Grog, after the stiff wool grogram coats he wore.
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The term "grog" soon began to mean the watered down drink itself.
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When you were drunk on this grog, you were "groggy", a word still in
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use today.
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Many years ago in England, pub frequenters had a whistle baked into
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the rim or handle of their ceramic cups. When they needed a refill,
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they used the whistle to get some service. "Wet your whistle", is
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the phrase inspired by this practice.
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In the Middle Ages, "nunchion" was the word for liquid lunches. It
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was a combination of the words "noon scheken", or noon drinking. In
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those days, a large chunk of bread was called lunch. So if you ate
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bread with your nunchion, you had what we still today call a
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luncheon.
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Things you didn't know about beer. <chuckle>
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Ol'WDB
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IP Nodes And The Nodelist
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By Jack Yates; N3613C
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1:3613/1275
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Last week I noticed that a new node had been added to FidoNet,
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1:345/4; Michael Wendell. Michael's node is IP (internet presence)
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only and cannot be called via Plain Old Telephone Service (POTS);
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Net 345 is in Hawaii, The Net Coordinator (NC) is Todd Cochrane who
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provides FidoNet echomail feeds to about 79 nodes and nets, and by
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doing so is a definite asset to our network and our hobby. Michael
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lives in Charlotte NC, within the service area of an active net.
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Why, I questioned, did the N345C nodelist Michael in his net rather
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than contact the N379C or the R18C; I sent a netmail to Mr. Cochrane
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advising him that I had seen this addition to his net and stated
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that it was my opinion that it was his duty as a Net Coordinator to
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contact the proper NC and/or RC and advise those people that the
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SysOp was in need of a node number rather than to list him in a net
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thousands of miles from his residence. This message was CC'd to the
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N379C and R18C AS an "FYI." and posted in the echo, Z1C.
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Mr. Cochrane's response was timely and stated (in substance) that
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"the SysOp had tried to find the NC but got no response; if someone
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wanted to get on the ball and list him, no problem."
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The scenario should end right here as the node is being listed in
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the proper net, but it didn't; there are several members that feel
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that a node should be able to be listed where s/he gets his/her
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feed; traffic in Z1C has increased.
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As someone's tagline states: "If you aren't catching flak, you are
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not on target." I must have made a direct hit; this is further
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evidenced by the actions of the RC's involved, and the Z1C.
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The underlying question in a lot of this echomail is "Why didn't you
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just leave this alone?"
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Because it's my opinion that this exemption would be harmful to
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FidoNet.
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Other questions and statements have been, and my opinions are:
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"Why can't he belong to that net as that's where he gets his feed."
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I know that it's a thorn in the side of some of the membership but
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we *do* have a Policy document and all Coordinators are obligated to
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uphold it. Policy 4.07 says that the networks will be defined
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geographically, not according to where the node gets its feed.
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"He's IP-only, how can he get his Host-Routed Netmail (HRN) if he's
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in a local net and the NC doesn't have IP capabilities."
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 6 25 Oct 1999
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Don't be so sure that the NC does not, or that an NEC cannot connect
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with an IP node. If either of these people are polling for mail via
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Internet FTP, chances are they are capable of connecting.
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If the NC has no internet account or is not capable of FTP or e-mail
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transfers for any reason, the nodes HRN can be held at the RC-s node
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for pickup or delivery via FTP. Failing all of this, the RC can, by
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editing his route file, redirect the messages to the RC of the
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Region the node's net is in, thence to the node's feed.
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"What difference does it make what net he's in? It's an increase in
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the membership. why make it difficult for him?"
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What's difficult? The SysOp wants in, he can't find the Net
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Coordinator but the Sysop who runs the hub knows who it is and knows
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who the RC is as he has a nodelist; send a netmail to the NC or RC,
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advise the SysOp of the NC's address and coach him, if necessary, on
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how to submit the application.
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"If we didn't have such narrow-minded people and all these rules, we
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would see a turn-around in the decline in FidoNet."
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First, I'm not narrow-minded; When I have to read P4, I am looking
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for things that it does not say because if it isn't there, we are
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not told that we can't do it. Unfortunately, we are told how we
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must list our nodes.
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Second, if we didn't have *any* rules, it would make little or no
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difference in the decline in Fido; local BBSs, as most anyone will
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tell you, are a thing of the past as the Internet beckons the users;
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the nodes in Z1 are leaving primarly due to the lack of callers, not
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because of the rules.
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Third: Because Policy 4 says we cannot do this. There is a
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minority of SysOps that would choose to ignore Policy and do as they
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please, thinking that by doing so Policy 4 will be declared as
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unworkable or unnecessary. I don't think that this will make Policy
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go away.
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Lets say that in your neighborhood there's a 4-way stop sign, the
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East-west road is well traveled, the North-South roadway is
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abandoned, there are barricades, grass grows up through the
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pavement. You ae on the East-West road, you know the North-South
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road is abandoned so you don't stop at the stop sign. Uh-oh! Blue
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lights, pull over, citation.
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Now tell the judge that the stop sign is not needed, too
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restrictive, or outdated and see what it gets you. Or go to the
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Department of Public Works, the governing body of the political
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subdivision ad request the signs be removed and show them why they
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are no longer necessary and it's quite likely that the signs will go
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away.
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At this writing, the Z1C is asking for input regarding a new Policy
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 7 25 Oct 1999
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document; tell him what you want, substantiate your reasons for
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wanting it and see if it will be considered. While you wait,
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however, keep stopping at the stop sign.
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"The IC has said that all geographical exemptions are pre-granted
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pending someone proving that the exception would cause harm to the
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net."
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Yes, he did, but I feel that to allow an exemption for the reason
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given would be harmful as, if allowed to stand, a precedent has been
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established; "You allowed So-and-So to do it, you have to allow me
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to do it as well." Soon the nodelist becomes fragmented with
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listings scattered in all parts of the world as part of what were
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once local nets.
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What if we have nodes that feed from, say net 000, who are in other
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Zones and have Zone 1 nodelistings? The NCs and RCs are responsible
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for the smooth operation of there Networks/Regions; how can one
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discharge that responsibility if there are nodes that are, say, in
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India, Australia, or other, perhaps non-English-speaking or `English
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as a second language' areas? I can almost hear the screams of (for
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instance) the Zone 2 Coordinator the first time a Zone 1 NC lists a
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node in Russia, or the Zone 3 Coordinator, should I list my point in
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Queensland as a member of net 3613, near Columbus, Georgia, USA, not
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to mention the howls of anguish from my RC if I were to do so.
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I think a better method of accomodating IP-only nodes already exists
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under the auspices of the Zone Coordinator who has listed several in
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the 1:1/3000 block of the nodelist. There may be other workable
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options that can be implemented that don't conflict with current
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Policy. I urge those of the membership who are more aware than I am
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of the features and confines of IP-only nodes to work out a
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reasonable solution. Until then, I suggest that the *Cs accomodate
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new nodes as speedily and painlessly as possible, but within the
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bounds stated in Policy.
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Beating on the ThomToms
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Doug Myers
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I doubt that I've had more response to any editorial than I did from
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last week's "Dr. Thom and Mr... hide?" While it's clear that I'd
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continue to draw more interest towards Fidonews with my muckraking
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than, say, Joe Jared would with his excellent work on the Internet
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listings... I wanted to save the editorial this week for another
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purpose. However, I feel that I owe readers a report on some of the
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response I've gotten.
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* * *
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On the "more bad news for Thom" side if the discussion, some
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observers have noted discrepancies in the ELISTing. ELADD.TXT is a
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report circulated with the ELISTING, and details additions by
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 8 25 Oct 1999
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ECHOBASE, the elist software. The discrepancy noted is that at
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least some of the echoes acquired by Tom Knowles were listed in
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ELADD.TXT without a moderator, while other echoes acquired or added
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by other moderators were listed with that name.
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Matt Bedynek has a working copy of ECHOBASE installed on his system,
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and reports that he could only simulate this discrepancy by burning
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the echoes manually, and feels from his experience that manual
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intervention would have been necessary on Thom's system too.
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* * *
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Though Thom LaCosta has been mostly silent since the controversy
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started, and has certainly not responded to anything written in
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Fidonews so far, he did post in Z1_Coordinator on the subject. He
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acknowledges that Tom Knowles accesses his sysop editor through a
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doorway program, and acknowledges that this would give Tom access to
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functions not normally available to users. However, he maintains
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that there has been no such abuse, and that user access is his
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business only.
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* * *
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Supporting Thom and Tom is one reader who prefers to remain
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anonymous. He maintains that Thom and Tom are separate individuals,
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though he wasn't free to tell how he knows that. This reader points
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out that there is insufficient evidence presented to prove this, and
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makes two observations:
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1. That the echoes REC, Z1_BACKBONE, and ZEC have been turned over
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to proper moderators upon polite request.
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2. That there has been no harm in any of Thom LaCosta's "playing"
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with the ELIST, even if any of the allegations are true. Certainly
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he has "played" less than his predecessor, Adrian Walker.
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 9 25 Oct 1999
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NET HUMOR
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The Name of Ghandi
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Thanks to Ruth Argust
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1:2404/201
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Mahatma Ghandi walked barefoot everywhere, to the point that his
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feet became quite thick and hard. He also was quite a spiritual
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person. Even when he was not on a hunger strike, he did not eat
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much and became quite thin and frail. Furthermore, due to his diet,
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he wound up with very bad breath. Therefore: he came to be known as
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a.................
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"Super calloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis."
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COMIX IN ASCII
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Hallowe'en
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Cows... (___)
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(o o)
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__\_/__ (__)
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//^^*^^\ _____| oo |
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/ * \ / |
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/ | * | \ / |
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\ |=====| / /____________|
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"|_____|" ^^ ^^
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| | | Cow dressed up
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| | | as ghost
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^ ^
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COWNT
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 11 25 Oct 1999
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NOTICES
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Future History
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26 Oct 1999
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Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
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31 Dec 1999
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15 Sep 2000
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21 Sep 2000
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10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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A new feature has been added to this list.
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
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12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo.
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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270/101 @ George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
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271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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345/0 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
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2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
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2624/306 @ D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
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3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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3803/1 @ Ben Ritchey | UUE | 56k | n/c
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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FIDONEWS MASTHEAD
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Fidonews Staff:
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Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com
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Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org
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Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com
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(Fido Via Internet Hubs column)
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Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg,
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Henk Wolsink
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INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
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STAR SOURCE for all past issues:
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Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
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INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
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And in non-English formats via:
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http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)
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The exact article submission requirements for the Fidonews software
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hubs. However, you should concentrate on what you wish to say, as
|
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
|
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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FIDONEWS 16-43 Page 18 25 Oct 1999
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or something to amuse ourselves
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and create the requisite chaos."
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