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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 39 27 Sept 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Letters to Editor Policy ................................. 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
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Delay in Z1C transition acknowledged ..................... 2
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Zone 4 site listing corrected ............................ 2
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
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Echolist Controversy ..................................... 3
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 4
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Letter Perfect ........................................... 4
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5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 5
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Famous Cows .............................................. 5
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6. NOTICES .................................................. 6
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Future History ........................................... 6
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7. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 7
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs ................................ 7
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 8
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8. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 10
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Masthead and Contact information ......................... 10
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 1 27 Sep 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Letters to Editor Policy
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One of the "perks" of editing Fidonews is reading the mail which
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comes in. Without this mail, putting together each issue would be a
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lonely chore, dry and uninteresting. Each letter which comes in,
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however, breathes life into the ol' Snooze. Suddenly, we have a
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READER! Someone cares about what was presented - Fidonews hasn't
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whithered and died on hundreds of hard drives around the world!
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Naturally, I like to share the good news with the other readers of
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the Snooze through the "Letters to the Editor" column. I was
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cautioned recently, though, by one reader who intended his
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correspondence to be private, that I should be careful in what I
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print.
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This is my dilemma: I literally can't tell from most letters
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whether that letter is intended to be private or public. I don't
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really want to betray anyone's trust by revealing something they
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don't want public, but I don't want to become so intimidated by the
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prospect that I consistently take the "safe" course and don't
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share anything. After consideration, I figured I'd handle "Letters
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to the Editor" in the following manner. Your comments would be
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appreciated.
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WHAT i WON'T PUBLISH
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1. Letters where you specifically ask me not to reveal the
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contents.
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2. Letters which are obviously of a personal nature.
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WHAT I WILL PUBLISH
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1. Letters where you specifically ask me to publish.
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2. Letters which relate to Fidonews or articles published therein,
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where publication shouldn't embarrass the author.
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3. Letters from public echoes which are deemed of interest to
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Fidonews readers.
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Hopefully, the above policy will balance confidentiality and the
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objective of making Fidonews interesting reading.
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-Doug Myers
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 2 27 Sep 1999
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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Email from David Moufarrege <moufarrege@gmx.net>
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You wrote under "What's not happening":
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" You don't deserve to be the top story in the What's Not Happening
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column... but it's been two and a half months."
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You are quite correct: The past three and a half weeks have been
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spend waiting for Bob Satti to return from vacation. The transition
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is now in process.
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Netmail from Renato Zambo, 4:801/161
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In FIDO1637.NWS:
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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1637 had correct/updated sites for our zone.
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Thanks for the correction, Renato. I tried each of these sites and
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was able to get in. Note that they are corrected in this edition :)
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- Doug Myers
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 3 27 Sep 1999
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ARTICLES
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Echolist Controversy
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The Echolist mechanism is currently under attack in the Z1_BACKBONE
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echo. It's an old argument, actually, fueled by the fact that a
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moderator can find that his echo belongs to another individual under
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some circumstances. The argument has been around for at least the
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last three elist keepers with no particular resolution, so I doubt
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that this round of arguments will result in any changes.
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The echolist, or elist, is a list of echo areas and their moderators
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along with other pertinent information. It's important to zone 1
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echomail in that all major distributors use it to determine the
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legal moderator for such issues as adding the echo to the
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distribution list and making feed cuts.
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It's relatively easy for a moderator to establish a new echo in zone
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1. All he need do is find an unused echo tag (the name of his echo
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as programmed into various tossers), and then list that plus a
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password plus other optional information in a letter to the elist
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robot. The elist robot adds the information to its data base and,
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from that point on, the moderator with the password is the owner of
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that echo for the next six months. So long as he remembers the
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password, he may extend the six months by continuing to send
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messages to the robot.
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Where the controversy occurs is that, if a moderator forgets to
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update, his listing expires after six months, and anyone may relist
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it with any password they choose. Some individuals have made a
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practice of watching the expirations and then "grabbing" the echo
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with a simple letter to the robot. If the original moderator is
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still around, he may consider the echo hijacked... though defenders
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of the system point out that the original moderator had plenty of
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time and opportunity to update, including a letter that the echo
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would expire in most cases, and that he simply failed to do his
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job... losing the echo in the process.
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Those criticizing the elist procedure have suggested a "grace
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period" during which the echo would fall from the elist, but it
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couldn't be relisted without the password. A grace period of from
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one month to six months has been suggested.
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I personally agree with critics that such a grace period would
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dampen the enthusiasm of those who "collect" these echoes... but
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have they considered the cost of this result? It would also make
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the relisting of an echo whose moderator has lost interest or even
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left Fidonet more difficult.
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 4 27 Sep 1999
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NET HUMOR
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Letter Perfect
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Eye halve a spelling chequer
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It came with my pea sea
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It plainly marques four my revue
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Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
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Eye strike a key and type a word
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And weight four it two say
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Weather eye am wrong oar write
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It shows me strait a weigh.
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As soon as a mist ache is maid
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It nose bee fore two long
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And eye can put the error rite
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Its rarely ever wrong.
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Eye have run this poem threw it
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I am shore your pleased two no
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Its letter perfect in it's weigh
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My chequer tolled me sew.
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 5 27 Sep 1999
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COMIX IN ASCII
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(__)
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(oo)
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/ \/ ____________
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Famous Cows / \===^__| |
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_|___ /\ |______________|
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*I I| | | |
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I I^ ^ | |
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wolfgang amadeus moo-zart
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 6 27 Sep 1999
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NOTICES
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Future History
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26 Oct 1999
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Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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21 Sep 2000
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10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 7 27 Sep 1999
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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Last Updated: 9/25/1999
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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Zone 1 |
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10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
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12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo
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107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 | Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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270/101 | George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
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271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
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2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
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2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 | David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
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2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
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3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 8 27 Sep 1999
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
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complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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[This list includes all sites reported to the Editor as of September
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26, 1999. Sites reported marked for deletion in the last issue are
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gone now.]
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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WWW sources: http://travel.to/fidonet/
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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List server: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 9 27 Sep 1999
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Region 14:
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
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Zone 1 Elist http://members.xoom.com/echolist/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) (No netscape)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
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Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com
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Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg,
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Henk Wolsink
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FIDONEWS 16-39 Page 11 27 Sep 1999
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