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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 14 12 April 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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Table of Contents
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1. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 1
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FidoCop - a netmail response ............................. 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
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FidoCop and FidoRob ...................................... 4
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3. NOTICES .................................................. 6
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4. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 7
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Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 7
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5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 12
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6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 1 12 Apr 1999
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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FidoCop - a netmail response
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Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, doug@mdtnbbs.com
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I'd like to thank the readers of Fidonews who have seen fit to
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correspond with me on the articles I write for Fidonews. It's
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encouraging to find out there are more than six people reading, so I
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try to reply to each message. I'd like to share this correspondence
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with Amir Shabashvili of Russia concerning the article last week.
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He disagrees with me, but he's especially polite about it, and
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eloquent in presenting his own point of view.
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----------- extract of a netmail reply to Mr. Shabashvili -----------
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AS> I think I got you point. let me reply on only sentence from your
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AS> excellent article:
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DM> For Fidonet sysops to act against an individual who has
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DM> possibly broken the law would essentially be an act of
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DM> vigilantism, itself against the law.
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AS> You talking in context of Andreas Klein's letter connected with
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AS> Ward's decision on well-known there in 2:R50 conflict between FTN
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AS> software developer and network member who illegally used mailer
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AS> software (Ravel for Mac). (Just for info, Ravel isn't commercial
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AS> or shareware soft, it is free, but licensed software. Ever more,
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AS> there are 2 versions: first - absolutely free, with usial free
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AS> license, and second (advanced), for using it you need to ask
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AS> author's permission and receive (free!) key.)
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You've got the context right. From what you describe, I'm doubly
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surprised:
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(1) Surprised that licensing got to be an issue with the user,
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since he didn't have to pay any money to use the advanced version,
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and
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(2) That the developer would insist on licensing which he
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essentially gives away anyway.
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AS> As far as I know, author asked other side to stop unlicensed
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AS> usage of his software and got in reply something like "go to
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AS> hell", + some abuse lines in the local pointlist was placed. Do
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AS> you think, it must be normal behavior (except abuse stuff)? I
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AS> think not.
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Many of the arguments in Fidonet seem driven more by testosterone
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levels than by standards of behavior. This seems little different.
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AS> I think, the normal would be to stop usage of unlicensed software
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 2 12 Apr 1999
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AS> and install free version. There are a lot of free FTN software
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AS> appears in last the years, no problemo with that, ever for Mac
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AS> (Mac is very exotic computer in 2:R50).
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AS> Behavior like described above lead us to author's copywrite and
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AS> local laws violation (remember,Policy4 told us "2.1.1 <...> and
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AS> do not promote or participate in the distribution of pirated
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AS> copyrighted software or other illegal behavior via FidoNet"), but
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AS> as for me, moral aspect of the problem is more important.
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I view the section of policy which you quote to mean that one
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should not use Fido as a means of carrying on an illegal activity,
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not as an excuse to use Fido as a club to enforce legality. The
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legal issue is essentially between the user and the developer, and
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uninvolved parties should not be required to enforce anything.
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AS> Of course, we can't judje well, we are not professional lowyers,
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AS> but we not talking about real life, we talking about virtual
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AS> community, where FidoNet policy and common sence are widely used
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AS> for any problem resolution. Why we can not use it in this case?
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AS> Why we must call a police? Police can't excommunicate someone
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AS> from FidoNet. Better I call my NC/RC:)
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Police can't hang people either. Better you call your local
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vigilante committee :)
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Why is excommunicating someone from Fido the proper way to handle
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software misuse? Should the software pirate's voice line be cut?
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Should his children be expelled from school? Should his driving
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privileges be revoked?
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Problem resolution on Fido should be restricted to the actual
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problems affecting Fido - not to resolve moral issues.
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Certainly we owe software developers our respect and cooperation,
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but the efforts such as file distribution networks which help
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promote their efforts are sufficient. Acting as enforcers for
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software licensing is going too far.
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AS> I think, coordinators at any level must process formal policy
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AS> complaints dealing with license violation. They must applied such
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AS> complaints from software developers only, not from anyone, but
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AS> they must.
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Let me ask you a question: what should happen to coordinators who
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don't deal with license violations? Should they be fired?
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Excommunicated? Criminally prosecuted? Keep in mind that these
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coordinators are volunteers who simply may not wish to devote the
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time to all the good causes we could ask of them.
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AS> It is _very_ important case for Russia, because of a lot of
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AS> pirated CD's saled on every corner, and more than 90% of
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AS> installed software isn't legal. In FidoNet too, not 90%, but a
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 3 12 Apr 1999
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AS> lot, using cracked software and fake keys is usial!
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AS> We can't quickly change that. But, we must try.
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Why must we try? I honestly respect your opinion concerning the
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morality of using pirated software... but now we're getting into
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what's sold in the street corners, far afield from what's being
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done in my hobby. By virtue of my participation in Fidonet, have I
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incurred an obligation to safeguard the financial interests of
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those who write games for children or spreadsheets for bigger
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children?
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Do I someday get to the point where my obligations consume the time
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I once freely gave to others in persuit of my hobby?
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 4 12 Apr 1999
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=================================================================
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ARTICLES
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FidoCop and FidoRob
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Amir Shabashvili
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2:5049/12, ashabash@zarech.ru
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(This is reply on Douglas Myers 1:270/720 article named "FIDOCOP"
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in the first April issue)
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Dear Douglas!
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I think I got you point. let me reply on only sentence from your
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excellent article:
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DM> For Fidonet sysops to act against and individual who has
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DM> possibly broken the law would essentially be an act of
|
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DM> vigilantism, itself against the law.
|
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|
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You talking in context of Andreas Klein's letter connected with
|
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Ward's decision on well-known there in 2:R50 conflict beetween FTN
|
||
software developer and network member who illegally used mailer
|
||
software (Ravel for Mac). (Just for info, Ravel isn't commercial
|
||
or shareware soft, it is free, but licensed software. Ever more,
|
||
there are 2 versions: first - absolutely free, with usial free
|
||
license, and second (advanced), for using it you need to ask author's
|
||
permission and receive (free!) key.)
|
||
|
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As far as I know, author asked other side to stop unlicensed usage of
|
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his software and got in reply something like "go to hell", + some
|
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abuse lines in the local pointlist was placed. Do you think, it must
|
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be normal behavior (except abuse stuff)? I think not.
|
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|
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I think, the normal would be to stop usage of unlicensed software and
|
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install free version. There are a lot of free FTN software appears in
|
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last the years, no problemo with that, ever for Mac (Mac is very
|
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exotic computer in 2:R50).
|
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|
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Behavior like described above lead us to author's copywrite and local
|
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laws violation (remember,Policy4 told us "2.1.1 <...> and do not
|
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promote or participate in the distribution of pirated copyrighted
|
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software or other illegal behavior via FidoNet"), but as for me,
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moral aspect of the problem is more important.
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Of cource, we can't judje well, we are not professional lowyers, but
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we not talking about real life, we talking about virtual community,
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where FidoNet policy and common sence are widely used for any problem
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resolution. Why we can not use it in this case? Why we must call a
|
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police? Police can't excommunicate someone from FidoNet. Better I
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call my NC/RC:)
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I think, coordinators at any level must process formal policy
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complaints dealing with license violation. They must applied such
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complaints from software developers only, not from anyone, but they
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 5 12 Apr 1999
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must.
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It is _very_ important case for Russia, because of a lot of pirated
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CD's saled on every corner, and more than 90% of installed software
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isn't legal. In FidoNet too, not 90%, but a lot, using cracked
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software and fake keys is usial!
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We can't quickly change that. But, we must try.
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Best regards,
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Amirko
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 6 12 Apr 1999
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NOTICES
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Future History
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12 May 1999
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12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
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10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.
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14 - 16 May 1999
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V. BBachCon in Bleichenbach, Germany.
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For further information see: www.bbachcon.de
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24 Jul 1999
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XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
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9 Jun 1999
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Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.
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10 Sep 1999
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10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.
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26 Oct 1999
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Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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21 Sep 2000
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10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 7 12 Apr 1999
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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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Latest Greatest Software Versions
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by Peter E. Popovich, 1:228/158
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Well, it has been quite a while. Been wondering if I should come
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back. Guess I just did. <grin>
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Everything is out of date. I've got a backlog, but while I catch
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up on old mail, I also want to get new mail as well. So write me.
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There's been some speculation about web page listings and e-mail
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addresses for this list. I do plan to add them to the web version
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of this list within the next couple of weeks. Please send them in.
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Please note the new contact info:
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Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
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fido@popovich.net
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http://www.popovich.net/fido
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Peter Popovich
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-=- Snip -=-
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Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
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OS Platform :
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Software package name :
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Version :
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Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
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Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
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Author / Support staff contact name :
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Author / Support staff contact node :
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Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
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Internet e-mail address :
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Web page :
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Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
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Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
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-=- Snip -=-
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MS-DOS:
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
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ALLFIX 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
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Announcer 1.12 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
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BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
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Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
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BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 8 12 Apr 1999
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BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
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CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
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CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
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FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
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FastEcho/16 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FEX
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FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD
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FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
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FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
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FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
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GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
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GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
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GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
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Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
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ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
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InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
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InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
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InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
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InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
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InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
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IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
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JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
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Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
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Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
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JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
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JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
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MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
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Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
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Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
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Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE
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McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
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MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
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Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
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Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
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NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD
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NorthStar 3.31.29 B S A&B Darin 1:285/82 NSTAR
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Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
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O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
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PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
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PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
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QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
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RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
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RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
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Searchlight 4.5 B S Paul Casey 1:343/117 DEMO450.ZIP
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Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
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Silver Xpress
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Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
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Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
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Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
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Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
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StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
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StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 9 12 Apr 1999
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T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
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Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
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Terminate 5.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
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Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO
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TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
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TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
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TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
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TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
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TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
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WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
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WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
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WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
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xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
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XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
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OS/2:
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ALLFIX/2 5.00 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
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BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
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Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
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BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
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||
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
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CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
||
FastEcho 1.46.1 T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
|
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FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST
|
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FleetStreet 1.21 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
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FP-OS/2 97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow 323/107 FPOS2
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GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
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GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
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ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
||
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
|
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Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP
|
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Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
|
||
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF
|
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PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
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RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
|
||
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
|
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T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
|
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
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Tornado 1.50g B F Konst Klyagin 2:461/22 TORNADO2
|
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WaterGate 0.93 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
|
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XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
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Windows (16-bit apps):
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
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FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
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Windows (32-bit apps):
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 10 12 Apr 1999
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Argus 95/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 A9I
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Argus NT/IP 2.704 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ANI
|
||
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
||
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
|
||
BinkleyTerm-XE XR5 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_W32
|
||
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
||
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW
|
||
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
||
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
||
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
|
||
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
|
||
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW
|
||
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
|
||
Searchlight 5.02 B C Paul Casey 1:343/117 SLBBS50.TXT
|
||
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
|
||
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
|
||
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
|
||
|
||
Unix:
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
||
ifmail 2.12 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
|
||
ifmail-tx ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
|
||
ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
|
||
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
||
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
||
|
||
Amiga:
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
CrashMail 1.31 T X Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHMAIL
|
||
CrashTick 1.2 O F Rene Laederach 2:301/133 CRASHTICK
|
||
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
|
||
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
|
||
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
||
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
||
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
|
||
2:310/6 TRAPDOOR
|
||
TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS
|
||
|
||
Atari:
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
||
ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
|
||
BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
|
||
BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC
|
||
JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
|
||
Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA
|
||
|
||
Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
|
||
C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
|
||
be listed by the first match.
|
||
|
||
Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 11 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source
|
||
|
||
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:228/158
|
||
|
||
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|
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|
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FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 12 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FIDONET BY INTERNET
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
|
||
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
|
||
|
||
FidoNet:
|
||
|
||
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
|
||
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
|
||
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
|
||
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
|
||
FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
|
||
Echomail [pending]
|
||
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
|
||
http://www.nrgsys.com/orb/foti
|
||
List servers:
|
||
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
|
||
|
||
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
|
||
|
||
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
|
||
|
||
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
|
||
|
||
Region 14:
|
||
|
||
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
|
||
|
||
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
|
||
|
||
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
|
||
|
||
Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
|
||
|
||
Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/
|
||
|
||
Not sure where the following should be placed:
|
||
|
||
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/fido.html
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
ZEC2:
|
||
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/
|
||
|
||
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 13 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
|
||
|
||
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
|
||
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
|
||
|
||
Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
|
||
|
||
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
|
||
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
|
||
|
||
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
|
||
|
||
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
|
||
|
||
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
|
||
|
||
Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
|
||
|
||
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
|
||
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
|
||
|
||
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
|
||
|
||
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
|
||
|
||
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
|
||
|
||
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
|
||
|
||
Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
|
||
|
||
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
|
||
Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 4:
|
||
|
||
Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
|
||
Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
|
||
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 14 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
|
||
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
|
||
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
|
||
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
|
||
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
|
||
|
||
TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
|
||
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
|
||
|
||
-----------oOo-------------
|
||
|
||
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
|
||
|
||
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
|
||
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
|
||
1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
|
||
1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
|
||
1:106/1 | Matt Bedynek | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 64k | $5/$15mo.
|
||
1:106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP,VMoT | 64k | $5/mo.
|
||
1:107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
|
||
1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
|
||
1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
|
||
1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE | 28.8 | $10/yr.
|
||
1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
|
||
1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
|
||
1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c
|
||
1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
|
||
1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | $15yr.
|
||
1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
|
||
1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
|
||
1:396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr.
|
||
1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
|
||
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
|
||
2:335/535 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c
|
||
2:284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
|
||
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
|
||
3:633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
4:905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT, UUE | ??? | n/c
|
||
--
|
||
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
|
||
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
|
||
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
|
||
[I'm only cataloging transfer methods, eg, ftp, email, telnet.
|
||
Specific programs using these protocols are no longer being listed.
|
||
Contact the system operators for details of which programs they have
|
||
available.]
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 15 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
|
||
Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 16 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FIDONEWS INFORMATION
|
||
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|
||
|
||
|
||
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
|
||
|
||
Editor: Henk Wolsink
|
||
|
||
Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
||
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
|
||
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg
|
||
|
||
"FidoNews Editor"
|
||
FidoNet 5:5/23
|
||
BBS +27-41-581-5913, 2400/9600/V34
|
||
|
||
more addresses:
|
||
Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za
|
||
|
||
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
||
FidoNews Editor
|
||
P.O. Box 12325
|
||
Port Elizabeth,
|
||
6006
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
|
||
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
|
||
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
|
||
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
|
||
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
|
||
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
|
||
FidoNews and/or the Editor.
|
||
|
||
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
||
Copyright (C) 1999 Henk Wolsink. All rights reserved. Duplication
|
||
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
|
||
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
|
||
the Editor.
|
||
|
||
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
||
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
|
||
file-request, or from various sites in FidoNet and the Internet.
|
||
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
|
||
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
|
||
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
|
||
back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSGnn.ZIP] for a
|
||
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
|
||
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
|
||
current year [9], i.e., FNWSJAN9.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 99.
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 17 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
|
||
1 - 16 for 1984 - 1999, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
|
||
size from 48K to 1.4M.
|
||
|
||
|
||
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
** http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
|
||
** ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
|
||
|
||
And in non-English formats via:
|
||
|
||
** http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
|
||
http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)
|
||
|
||
** LINK HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
|
||
by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
ftpmail@fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
with a Subject line of: help
|
||
|
||
and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
|
||
instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
|
||
respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
|
||
www.fidonews.org.
|
||
|
||
*=*=*
|
||
|
||
You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
and http://www.fidonet.dynip.com/public/fidonews/default.htm
|
||
|
||
and in the FIDONEWS echo.
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-15 Page 18 12 Apr 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
|
||
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
|
||
|
||
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
|
||
|
||
Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
|
||
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
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|
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|
||
|
||
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|
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|
||
There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
|
||
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
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|
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|
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
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