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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 39 28 September 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | +27-41-515-913 [5:5/23] |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
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When a plan doesn't come together ........................ 2
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3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 4
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4. ARTICLES ................................................. 5
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What is a copyright ...................................... 5
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LOCALE.ART ............................................... 9
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International BBS Week ................................... 11
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Zone Echomail Coordinator Duties ......................... 12
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Finding Your Lost Regional Echo Coordinator .............. 14
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Region 17 (Zone 1) now has a web page! ................... 15
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5. NOTICES .................................................. 16
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6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 18
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7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 21
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 1 28 Sep 1998
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,
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Last week's editorial about echomail and it's "is it copyright" or
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not, did provide some interesting comments. Some of you said, it is
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not subject to copyright laws, some ofcourse maintain it is.
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As mentioned, I have my own views on the subject:
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'Unless so stated in each and every message posted, such messages
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are _not_ copyrighted'.
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However, having said that, I saw an interesting article on one of the
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list servers, which makes interesting reading. The article is below,
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should you be interested in it, for further reference. It applies
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mainly to Zone 1, but then, it also makes reference to the Berne
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Convention. Read it and do make your own assumptions.
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Who said my predecessor died? Well, be informed that he is well and
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kicking. :-) His eye is still bothering him, but for the rest he's
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fit! Keep and get well Zorch.
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Happy reading,
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 2 28 Sep 1998
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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When a Plan Doesn't Come Together...
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The End of a Dream?
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Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, doug@mdtnbbs.com
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Fido's most persevering conflict is that between technical
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organization and social organization. At times it's bitter, but
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there's an awareness in both camps that they really need each other.
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Without the technical organization, the net doesn't stay connected.
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Without the social organization, there's no need to be connected.
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Presently, the net is ruled by it's technical organization. Typical
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of those things designed by a technician, the basic organization is
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efficient, authoritative, and very logical. And, as typical, the
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organization falters when dealing with the social issues of right,
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justice, and feelings.
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Those of a more social bent would prefer democratic election for all
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offices, and even issues. They've made significant progress at the
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net and regional levels. Typically these elections are slow and
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inefficient, but proponents feel that they better deal with social
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issues. Until recently, though, there had been no democratic
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elections at the zone level.
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The scene for Fido's first democratic election in 1997 was a strange
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one. It involved an office, Zone Echomail Coordinator, which wasn't
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even "real" in that the position is not mentioned in Policy 4, Fido's
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governing document.
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Many feel to this day that the position is not even necessary.
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Nonetheless, the position was offered to the sysops of Zone 1 for
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their selection.
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Many feel the election failed. In the manner of elections, it was a
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loud and hotly contested affair. And, in the ultimate analysis, it
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produced a candidate who didn't survive his first term, judged by the
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technical and social proponents alike to be unsuited to the job.
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Now, in the selection of his replacement, it appears that the
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technical leadership has declared the grand experiment a failure and
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will simply select his replacement.
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Is the dream of the social organizers dead?
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Probably for now <sigh>. It's still theoretically possible for Bob
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Satti to insist on a sysop-level vote, but it would be at the risk of
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antagonizing the RECC, whit whom he's working well right now. It's
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still theoretically possible that the Regional Echomail Coordinator
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Council charged with determining how the next ZEC is to be selected,
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will ignore the feedback from their regions that the sysops just
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don't care to go through another election.
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It's still theoretically possible for the sysops, possibly stirred by
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this rhetoric, to convince the individual REC's that they truly want
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 3 28 Sep 1998
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such an election. But then, it's still theoretically possible that
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there will be peace in the middle east and that the internet will
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shut down in favor of BBS's across the world.
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I don't believe that we'll see a sysop-level vote for a zone office
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for a long time, and I wanted that because I'd caught a piece of the
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dream myself.
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But I don't think it's the end of sysop-level influence at the zone
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level either. Though it's an evolutionary truth that authoritative
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organizations tend to lose touch with their constituency, I don't
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think this process is complete with Fido yet. For whatever reason,
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Bob Satti, as the head of this organization, _did_ put the election
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on the table in the first place. The RC's who make up the zone
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organization still takes input directly from the sysops. Even if
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there are varying degrees of sincerity. Even if some only make the
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pretense. It's significant that the form is still in place.
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For my own part in all this, I plan to continue to work within the
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system, to keep the dream alive as best I can :)
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--
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| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
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| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 4 28 Sep 1998
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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Hi Editor,
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Could you please add my welcome blurb for R17 Website in the next
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addition of the FidoNews, and also you may link R17 URL to any
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websites the Fidonews may have on the Web.
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Thank you.
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blurb:
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=== Cut ===
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R17 Website
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09/25/98 05:23 pm
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G'day!
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I'ed like to take a sec and introduce myself ... Hi, my name is Kevin.
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I live in Calgary Alberta Canada and I have have been a member of
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Fidonet from about 1989. I still enjoy this type of networking and
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hope Fidonet still has it's place in the future.
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Just the other day Bob Seaborn, REC17, and myself were chatting and
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he asked me if I'd be interested in developing a Website for Region
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17, I accepted, and R17's site was born.
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As the designer of the site, I'm very happy to promote R17's site on
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the Internet, and hope this generates more sysops/users for our
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region.
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Welcome!
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klement@cadvision.com
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http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 5 28 Sep 1998
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ARTICLES
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What is a copyright?
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A copyright gives the owner of a creative work the right to keep
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others from using the work without the owner's permission. The key
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to understanding copyright law is to understand the difference
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between an idea and the expression of the idea. Copyright applies
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only to a particular expression, not to the ideas or facts underlying
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the expression. For instance, copyright may protect a particular
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song, novel or computer game about a romance in space, but it cannot
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protect the underlying idea of having a love affair among the stars.
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More specifically, a creative work (often referred to as a "work of
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authorship") must meet all of these three criteria to be protected by
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copyright:
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It must be original. In other words, the author must have created
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rather than copied it.
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It must be fixed in a tangible (concrete) medium of expression. For
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example, it might be expressed on paper, audio or video tape, computer
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disk, clay or canvas.
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It must have at least some creativity--that is, it must be produced by
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an exercise of human intellect. There is no hard and fast rule as to
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how much creativity is enough. To give an example, it must go beyond
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the creativity found in the telephone white pages, which involve a
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non-discretionary alphabetic listing of telephone numbers rather than
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a creative selection of listings.
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How long does a copyright last?
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For works published after 1977, the copyright lasts for the life of
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the author plus 50 years. However, if the work is a work for hire
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(that is, the work is done in the course of employment or has been
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specifically commissioned) or is published anonymously or under a
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pseudonym, the copyright lasts between 75 and 100 years, depending
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on the date the work is published.
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If the work was published before 1978 and the copyright has been
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properly renewed, the copyright expires 75 years after date of
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publication. If the work was created, but not published, before
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1978, the copyright lasts for the life of the author plus 50 years.
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However, even if the author died over 50 years ago, the copyright in
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an unpublished work lasts until December 31, 2002. And if such a
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work is published before 2003, the copyright lasts until December 31,
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2027.
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International Copyright Protection.
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Copyright protection rules are fairly similar worldwide, due to
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several international copyright treaties, the most important of
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which is the Berne Convention. Under this treaty, all member countries
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--and there are more than 100, including virtually all industrialized
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nations--must afford copyright protection to authors who are nationals
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 6 28 Sep 1998
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of any member country. This protection must last for at least the life
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of the author plus 50 years, and must be automatic without the need
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for the author to take any legal steps to preserve the copyright.
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In addition to the Berne Convention, the GATT (General Agreement on
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Tariffs and Trade) treaty contains a number of provisions that affect
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copyright protection in signatory countries. Together, the Berne
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Copyright Convention and the GATT treaty allow U.S. authors to enforce
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their copyrights in most industrialized nations, and allow the
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nationals of those nations to enforce their copyrights in the U.S.
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With one important exception, you should assume that every work is
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protected by copyright unless you can establish that it is not. As
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mentioned above, you can't rely on the presence or absence of a
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copyright notice ((c)) to make this determination, because a notice
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is not required for works published after March 1, 1989. And even for
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works published before 1989, the absence of a copyright notice may
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not affect the validity of the copyright.
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The exception is for materials put to work under the "fair use rule."
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This rule recognizes that society can often benefit from the
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unauthorized use of copyrighted materials when the purpose of the
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use serves the ends of scholarship, education or an informed public.
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For example, scholars must be free to quote from their research
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resources in order to comment on the material.
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Copyright (c)1995, The Trustees of California State University.
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When Copying Is OK: The 'Fair Use' Rule
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by Stephen Fishman Copyright (c) Nolo Press
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Sooner or later, almost all writers quote or closely paraphrase what
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others have written. For example:
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Andy, putting together a newsletter on his home computer, reprints an
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editorial he likes from a daily newspaper.
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Phil, a biographer and historian, quotes from several unpublished
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letters and diaries written by his subject.
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Regina, a freelance writer, closely paraphrases two paragraphs from
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the Encyclopedia Britannica in an article she's writing.
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Sylvia, a poet, quotes a line from a poem by T.S. Eliot in one of her
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own poems.
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Donnie, a comedian, writes a parody of the famous song "Blue Moon" he
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performs in his comedy act.
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Assuming the material quoted in these examples is protected by
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copyright, do Phil, Regina, Sylvia, Andy and Donnie need permission
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from the author or other copyright owner to use it? It may surprise
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you to learn that the answer is "not necessarily."
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Under the "fair use" rule of copyright law, an author may make
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limited use of another author's work without asking permission. The
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fair use privilege is perhaps the most significant limitation on a
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copyright owner's exclusive rights. If you write or publish, you
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need a basic understanding of what is and is not fair use.
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 7 28 Sep 1998
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Uses That Are Generally Fair Uses.
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Subject to some general limitations discussed later in this article,
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the following types of uses are usually deemed fair uses:
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Criticism and comment--for example, quoting or excerpting a work in
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a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment.
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News reporting--for example, summarizing an address or article, with
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brief quotations, in a news report.
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Research and scholarship--for example, quoting a short passage in a
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scholarly, scientific or technical work for illustration or clarifi-
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cation of the author's observations.
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Nonprofit educational uses--for example, photocopying of limited
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portions of written works by teachers for classroom use.
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Parody--that is, a work that ridicules another, usually well-known,
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work by imitating it in a comic way.
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In most other situations, copying is not legally a fair use. Without
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an author's permission, such a use violates the author's copyright.
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Violations often occur when the use is motivated primarily by a
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desire for commercial gain. The fact that a work is published
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primarily for private commercial gain weighs against a finding of
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fair use. For example, using the Bob Dylan line "You don't need a
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weatherman to know which way the wind blows" in a poem published in
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a small literary journal would probably be a fair use; using the same
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line in an advertisement for raincoats probably would not be.
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A commercial motive doesn't always disqualify someone from claiming a
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fair use. A use that benefits the public can qualify as a fair use,
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even if it makes money for the user.
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For example, a vacuum cleaner manufacturer was permitted in its
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advertising to quote from a Consumer Reports article comparing vacuum
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cleaners. Why? The ad significantly increased the number of people
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exposed to the Consumers Union's evaluations and thereby disseminated
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helpful consumer information. The same rationale probably applies to
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the widespread practice of quoting from favorable reviews in
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advertisements for books, films and plays.
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Copying From Unpublished Materials.
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When it comes to fair use, unpublished works are inherently different
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from published works. Publishing an author's unpublished work before
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he or she has authorized it infringes upon the author's right to
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decide when and whether the work will be made public. Some courts
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have held that fair use never applies to unpublished material.
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As you might expect, publishers, authors' groups, biographers and
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historians were highly critical of this view. They got Congress to
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amend the fair use provision in the Copyright Act to make clear that
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the fact that a work is unpublished weighs against fair use, but is
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not determinative in and of itself. If the other fair use factors
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favor fair use, it can be permissible to use part of an unpublished
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work without permission. This is particularly likely where the use
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benefits the public by furthering the fundamental purpose of the
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 8 28 Sep 1998
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copyright laws--the advancement of human knowledge. For example, a
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court held that it was a fair use for a biographer to use a modest
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amount of material from unpublished letters and journals by the
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author Richard Wright. (Wright v. Warner Books, Inc., 953 F.2d 731
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(2d Cir. 1991).)
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When Is a Use a 'Fair Use'?
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There are five basic rules to keep in mind when deciding whether or
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not a particular use of an author's work is a fair use:
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Rule 1: Are You Just Copying or Creating Something New?
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The purpose and character of your intended use of the material
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involved is the single most important factor in determining whether
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a use is a fair use.
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The question to ask here is whether you are merely copying someone
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else's work verbatim or instead using it to help create something
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new. The Supreme Court calls such a new work "transformative." The
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more transformative your work, the more likely your use is a fair
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use.
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Rule 2: Don't Compete With the Source You're Copying From.
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Without consent, you ordinarily cannot use another person's protected
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expression in a way that impairs (or even potentially impairs) the
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market for his or her work. Thus, if you want to use an author's
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protected expression in a work of your own that is similar to the
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prior work and aimed at the same market, your intended use isn't
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likely a fair use.
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For example, say Nick, a golf pro, writes a book on how to play golf.
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Not a good putter himself, he copies several brilliant paragraphs on
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putting from a book by Lee Trevino, one of the greatest putters in
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golf history. Because Nick intends his book to compete with and
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hopefully supplant Trevino's, this use could not be a fair use. In
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effect, Nick is trying to use Trevino's protected expression to eat
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into the sales of Trevino's own book.
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An interesting example is when a teacher copies parts of books for
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students to use. In one recent case, a group of seven major publishers
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went to court and stopped a duplicating business from copying excerpts
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from books without permission, compiling them into "course packets"
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and selling them to college students.
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Rule 3: Giving the Author Credit Doesn't Let You Off the Hook.
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Some people mistakenly believe that they can use any material as long
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as they properly give the author credit. Not true. Giving credit and
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fair use are completely separate concepts. Either you have the right
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to use another author's material under the fair use rule or you
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don't. The fact that you attribute the material to the other author
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doesn't change that.
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Rule 4: The More You Take, the Less Fair Your Use Is Likely to Be.
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The more material you take, the less likely it is that your use will
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be a fair use. However, to preserve the free flow of information,
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authors have more leeway in using material from factual works
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(scholarly, technical, scientific works, etc.) than to works of fancy
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 9 28 Sep 1998
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such as novels, poems and plays. This is true especially where it's
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necessary to use extensive quotations to ensure the accuracy of the
|
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information conveyed.
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As a general rule, never quote more than a few successive paragraphs
|
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from a book or article, or take more than one chart or diagram. It
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is never proper to include an illustration or other artwork in a book
|
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or newsletter without the artist's permission. Don't quote more than
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one or two lines from a poem.
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Many publishers require their authors to obtain permission from an
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author to quote more then a specified number of words, ranging from
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about 100 to 1000 words.
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Contrary to what many people believe, there is no absolute word limit
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on fair use. For example, it is not always okay to take one paragraph
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or less than 200 words. Copying 12 words from a 14-word haiku poem
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wouldn't be fair use. Nor would copying 200 words from a work of 300
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words likely qualify as a fair use. However, copying 2000 words from
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a work of 500,000 words might be fair.
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It all depends on the circumstances.
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Rule 5: The Quality of the Material Used Is as Important as the
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Quantity.
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The more important the material is to the original work, the less
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likely your use of it will be considered a fair use.
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In one famous case, The Nation magazine obtained a copy of Gerald
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Ford's memoirs before their publication. In the magazine's article
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about the memoirs, only 300 words from Ford's 200,000-word manuscript
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were quoted verbatim. The Supreme Court ruled that this was not a
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fair use because the material quoted (dealing with the Nixon pardon)
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was the "heart of the book ...the most interesting and moving parts
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of the entire manuscript," and that pre-publication disclosure of
|
||
this material would cut into value or sales of the book.
|
||
|
||
Determining whether your intended use of another author's protected
|
||
work constitutes a fair use is usually not difficult. It's really
|
||
just a matter of common sense. There is no more commonsensical
|
||
definition of fair use than the golden rule: Take from someone else
|
||
only what you wouldn't mind someone taking from you.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
|
||
All Aboard?
|
||
By Andrea Santos, 1:135/382, asantos@santronics.com
|
||
|
||
We're quickly closing in on the one year mark since a node physically
|
||
located in Malaysia was nodelisted in Zone 1's, Region 12,
|
||
specifically, Net 163. Though the node in question is no longer in
|
||
Fidonet, the ensuing problems which caused him to seek a node
|
||
assignment outside of his Zone are, and nor are these problems
|
||
limited to Zone 6.
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 10 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
Anyone got a few rafts?
|
||
|
||
Upon learning of the above geographic abnormality, many expressed
|
||
concern. Was this a blatant shirking of the suspect P4 geographic
|
||
boundaries clause by Net 163, or was there a serious breakdown
|
||
underway which required attention? After contacting a few nodes in
|
||
that Zone, I concluded the latter and was vocal in my comments in
|
||
various administrative echos for the need to resolve the problems,
|
||
beginning with the Zone Coordinator. Both NCs and RCs in that Region
|
||
had disappeared without notice, and either grunt nodes were finding it
|
||
impossible to obtain a local nodelisting, or NCs had no uplink to
|
||
submit updated Nodelist segments.
|
||
|
||
With so much discussion going on at the time about this nodelisting,
|
||
I remained cautiouly optimistic that the "powers that be" would get
|
||
involved. Surely, it was not in the best interests of a sysop located
|
||
half way around the world to have to seek out a node assignment here.
|
||
More importantly, the longer term viability of an entire Zone seemed
|
||
questionable.
|
||
|
||
My optimism ended after being copied a Netmail this past June from an
|
||
NC in Zone 1 who had been contacted about nodelisting a Sysop from
|
||
India. Upon receiving this mail, I contacted the NC of the India Net
|
||
to see if the sysop in question could be nodelisted in his
|
||
geographically assigned Net. This was done in quick fashion, however,
|
||
you won't find this nodelisting in your currently compiled Nodelist,
|
||
nor will you locate about 16 others in the same Net which have been
|
||
added in the last year or so. Not much you can do when there is no
|
||
uplink to send nodelist segments. Yet 3-4 more months have gone by
|
||
and nothing has changed.
|
||
|
||
Recently reviewing the Malaysian Net, this segment is identical today
|
||
to what I have on file back in February of this year, yet it was
|
||
relayed by a Zone 3 sysop, somewhere around the same time, that the
|
||
Malaysia NC was no longer running a Mailer and the Net no longer
|
||
existed. Any reason why this Net still appears in our Nodelist?
|
||
|
||
To my chagrin, and almost a year after Net 163 took it upon themselves
|
||
to provide a nodelisting to a sysop interested in being a part of
|
||
Fidonet, subjecting themselves to Policy action, it would appear
|
||
little has changed and it isn't for lack of active members in that
|
||
Zone trying. Just this week, yet another sysop in Zone 6 (this time
|
||
Indonesia) has put out a call for help and has provided the usual
|
||
non-response as the reason why.
|
||
|
||
Need another raft!
|
||
|
||
Though it's a remote possibility, my concern does not lie with nodes
|
||
elsewhere potentially CRASH mailing a down node l/d, or even the mere
|
||
nodelisting of inactive grunt nodes.
|
||
|
||
What should be of concern to everyone is that there are sysops running
|
||
viable boards who are not appropriately accounted for in our Network.
|
||
Anyone interested in routing mail to these network members can't.
|
||
Sysops who would like to be a part of Zone 6 Fidonet are ill-served by
|
||
our inaccurate "address book" and are not likely to join our
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 11 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
organization after following protocol and trying to directly connect
|
||
with several long distance *C's, to no avail. In other words we, as a
|
||
Network, are doing our best to discourage sysops from becoming a
|
||
members of Fidonet.
|
||
|
||
In early August, a Sysop posted that a prospective node I had
|
||
previously communicated with had sent mail to RC15 (Zone 1) to apply
|
||
for an RIN nodelisting, as his geographic area was not covered by any
|
||
existing Net. Since it had only been 2 weeks, and summer to boot,
|
||
I wrote back to the sysop and said to give it another week and offered
|
||
my assistance. Also made a note of this communication.
|
||
|
||
At the end of the month, I reviewed my notes, checked the nodelist,
|
||
saw the prospective sysop was not there, and mailed him. He had heard
|
||
nothing from anyone about his application, but expressed he was still
|
||
interested in joining Fidonet.
|
||
|
||
I'm intentionally leaving out some details from this point on but,
|
||
suffice it to say, despite the efforts of myself and my RC, the window
|
||
of opportunity to get this sysop a node number when it was most
|
||
convenient for him, and not an unresponsive member of Fidonet, has
|
||
passed. Commitments outside of this network, which weren't an issue a
|
||
month or even a 2 weeks ago, now are. Whether that changes in the
|
||
future is anyone's guess.
|
||
|
||
The days are long gone where Fidonet had the luxury of turning away
|
||
interested sysops. The problems which prevented this sysop from
|
||
getting a "properly" assigned node number were not addressed in time
|
||
because of that chain around our collective necks otherwise known as
|
||
the Geographic Boundaries clause.
|
||
|
||
In another time and place, geographic assignment made alot of sense.
|
||
In working Nets, Regions and Zones, it still does, per routed mail and
|
||
enhancement of local online communities. But if a Net, Region or Zone
|
||
is known not to be working, the boundary clause serves as a nothing
|
||
but a deterrent to any prospective node who can't get a reply, and as
|
||
an ongoing threat, in the form of a PC, to any Coordinator who would
|
||
do the needful and assign a node number.
|
||
|
||
My question to our International Coordinator is when will Coordinators
|
||
be permitted to assign out of area node numbers in non-response
|
||
situations, and quickly, to encourage the growth of our network,
|
||
without being subjected to complaint action?
|
||
|
||
The Ship's got plenty of room for the rafters. Let's get them
|
||
aboard and share it!
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
|
||
As Fidonetters know, the week of 14 Sep 1998 thru 20 Sep 98 was
|
||
supposed to mark "International BBS Week," a promotional event to
|
||
highlight the BBS community.
|
||
|
||
So what happened last week? Absolutely nothing. International BBS
|
||
Week was a dead duck. Even the participants in its Fido newsgroup
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 12 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
didn't mention it.
|
||
|
||
International BBS Week was suggested nearly two years ago by a group
|
||
of New Zealand sysops, and was later touted by some sysops in the
|
||
Minneapolis area. But although those sysops talked a good game,
|
||
their failure to organize in any meaningful way meant that
|
||
International BBS Week was doomed from the start. Nary a peep has
|
||
been heard from COCA, ICON, or any other group that claims to
|
||
promote BBS sysops. None exercised any leadership to make
|
||
International BBS Week meaningful and the event fizzled out like a
|
||
wet firecracker.
|
||
|
||
Meanwhile, the number of BBS systems continues to drop sharply.
|
||
|
||
The idea of having an International BBS Week is good. It should be
|
||
discussed during the October 2-4 SysCon'98 conference in Las Vegas,
|
||
and BBS sysops should band together to plan a meaningful
|
||
international event in the near future, perhaps within the next 90
|
||
days. If we continue to do nothing, the BBS community will continue
|
||
to shrivel and die.
|
||
|
||
So, these questions as we move forward:
|
||
|
||
1. Are BBS systems relevant anymore in a Webbed world? If so, what
|
||
is their role? If not, why not?
|
||
|
||
2. Since the term "BBS" has become burdensome baggage, is there a
|
||
better term we can use to describe these systems?
|
||
|
||
3. Where does the low-budget BBS computer hobbyist fit into an
|
||
online world that is dominated by deep-pocketed Web players?
|
||
|
||
4. What technical and content issues prevent BBS systems from being
|
||
a viable alternative online destination and how do we address them?
|
||
|
||
5. What is the most effective way to promote BBS systems in the
|
||
future?
|
||
|
||
Our time is short. Your ideas and comments, please.
|
||
|
||
Pat Clawson
|
||
TeleGrafix Communications Inc.
|
||
Winchester, VA
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
|
||
Zone Echomail Coordinator Duties
|
||
|
||
In an article last week related to the upcoming ZEC election, I had
|
||
touched on the duties of this office. A more definitive listing was
|
||
posted in Z1_ELECTION last year by the then-elected ZEC, Bob Kohl.
|
||
This is presented here in it's entirety for your information.
|
||
|
||
Recent feedback from some of the REC's is that the sysops in their
|
||
region do not want a sysop-level election. As far as I know, only
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 13 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
Region 13 still supports this concept. Though the Regional Echo
|
||
Coordinator's Council has not made any official announcement yet, the
|
||
REC's posting in the echo ZEC seem to favor selection of the ZEC by
|
||
the RECC.
|
||
|
||
I'll continue to submit information related to the selection of the
|
||
ZEC to Fidonews. Even if the one-time practice of electing the ZEC
|
||
at the sysop level is rescinded, sysops may still attempt to make
|
||
their opinion known through their Regional Echo Coordinator.
|
||
|
||
|
||
------------------------- begin quoted echomail --------------------
|
||
|
||
Area : Z1_ELECTION
|
||
|
||
Date : Nov 21 '97, 02:41
|
||
From : Bob Kohl 1:102/861
|
||
To : All
|
||
Subj : Re: ZEC duties Rev. 21934575-86721569-35d
|
||
-------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Feel free to crosspost at will:
|
||
|
||
At the pleasure of the Z1C, the duties for the Z1EC shall be:
|
||
|
||
|
||
1) Coordination between the Z1 echomail distribution systems
|
||
|
||
2) Coordination of the RECC and with the Zone 1 RECs.
|
||
|
||
The ZEC is the chairperson of the RECC. He or she shall bring ideas
|
||
to the RECC and moderate the discussion of ideas. He or she shall also
|
||
act as a tie breaker in the event of a tie vote. The RECC may overturn
|
||
a ZEC proposed action or idea with a 2/3rds vote of the RECC.
|
||
|
||
If the RECC concludes that the ZEC is not active, ineffective in his
|
||
or her job or not taking care his or her responsibilities per this
|
||
list; they may take a vote of no-confidence. If the vote of no-
|
||
confidence passes with 2/3rds majority, the RECC will refer this issue
|
||
to the Z1C for mediation or action as the Z1C sees fit.
|
||
|
||
The ZEC shall be allowed to take issue with RECs that are not
|
||
participating or doing their job, by taking the matter up with with
|
||
the host RC of the REC's region and the Z1C for mediation or action.
|
||
|
||
These two actions shall NOT be taken lightly without all due
|
||
consideration of possible extenuating circumstances.
|
||
|
||
3) Coordination with the other ZECs.
|
||
|
||
4) Central repository of information for the various Z1 distribution
|
||
systems.
|
||
|
||
5) Mediation of Zone 1 echomail issues/disputes.
|
||
|
||
6) Upper level mediation between Moderators, Fidonet distribution
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 14 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
systems on related echomail issues.
|
||
|
||
7) Coordination with the Echolist Keeper.
|
||
|
||
8) Help in the formation and implementation of a Zone/Fido-wide
|
||
Echomail policy. The ZEC shall work in conjunction with the RECC
|
||
on this issue, so that the REC's can take this information to their
|
||
respective regions for feedback.
|
||
|
||
9) Term(s) of no more than 2 years. No limit on number of terms
|
||
|
||
10) Codify, with the RECC, the procedure for future ZEC elections.
|
||
All future elections are subject to review by the Z1C..
|
||
|
||
11) Provide for an interim Z1EC, should anything happen to currently
|
||
seated Z1EC to prevent him/her from fulfilling these duties. The
|
||
single duty of the interim Z1EC shall be to expedite an election
|
||
and the smooth transition to the next Z1EC. The interim ZEC
|
||
shall refer to the Z1C for help with problems if the RECC cannot
|
||
resolve said issue(s).
|
||
|
||
|
||
BK
|
||
|
||
-!- DB A3000sl/001347
|
||
! Origin: Conniption BBS * One fit at a time * (1:102/861)
|
||
|
||
-------------------------- end quoted echomail ----------------------
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
|
||
| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
|
||
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
|
||
| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
|
||
Finding Your Lost REC
|
||
|
||
Your Regional Echo Coordinator has been trying to find you. He's been
|
||
charged with the mission of finding out how you would like to select a
|
||
new Zone Echo Coordinator to coordinate the Council of REC's (RECC).
|
||
If you've missed his call in your own regional echos, and you don't
|
||
know how to find him in the nodelist... and if you're interested in
|
||
offering your opinion... then this list may help.
|
||
|
||
To netmail your REC, all you need is his node number. To find that
|
||
on the list below, you need to know your NET number. That's the part
|
||
of your node number between the ":" and the "/". Once you've
|
||
determined your NET number, then find your REC in the list below.
|
||
Netmail him with your opinion.
|
||
|
||
If you're node number indicates that you're in a single-digit net,
|
||
then you're a zone independant and should already know everything :)
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 15 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
If you're node number indicates that you're in a two-digit net, then
|
||
you're a regional independant and can just select from the second
|
||
column of the list.
|
||
|
||
If you're in nets 100 to 199, abandon all hope of finding the
|
||
information from this list. Those net numbers are spread between
|
||
regions indiscriminately - you'll have to examine the full nodelist
|
||
to determine your region.
|
||
|
||
If your net number is anywhere between 400 and 999, you're not in
|
||
Zone 1 and don't have to worry about this selection. Similiarly for
|
||
net numbers above 4000. If your net number is between 1000 and 1999,
|
||
you probably don't exist.
|
||
|
||
REC 10 Blynn Mueller 1:10/1 Nets 200 to 219, 2000 to 2199
|
||
REC 11 Keith Wineka 1:11/1 Nets 220 to 239, 2200 to 2399
|
||
REC 12 Ken Wilson 1:12/1 Nets 240 to 259, 2400 to 2599
|
||
REC 13 David Calafrancesco 1:13/1 Nets 260 to 279, 2600 to 2799
|
||
REC 14 John Bodoni 1:1/214 Nets 280 to 299, 2800 to 2999
|
||
REC 15 Brandon Carnahan 1:15/5 Nets 300 to 319, 3000 to 3199
|
||
REC 16 Brian Bonfietti 1:16/1 Nets 320 to 339, 3200 to 3399
|
||
REC 17 Bob Seaborn 1:17/1 Nets 340 to 359, 3400 to 3599
|
||
REC 18 Jerry Gause 1:18/1 Nets 360 to 379, 3600 to 3799
|
||
REC 19 Ben Hamilton 1:19/1 Nets 380 to 399, 3800 to 3999
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
|
||
| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
|
||
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
|
||
| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
|
||
Region 17 (Zone 1) now has a web page!
|
||
======================================
|
||
|
||
by Dallas Hinton (1:153/715)
|
||
|
||
Thanks to the hard work of webmaster Kevin Klement, and space courtesy
|
||
of nwstar.com, Region 17 now has a very nice web page where those
|
||
interested may find FidoNet information, links, and how-to files on a
|
||
number of topics.
|
||
|
||
We're still looking for more of our history, and like most web pages
|
||
ours will be undoubtedly be in a permanent state of construction, but
|
||
we think it looks very nice!
|
||
|
||
Please drop by and say hello:
|
||
|
||
http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
|
||
|
||
-30-
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 16 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NOTICES
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Future History
|
||
|
||
5 Oct 1998
|
||
29th Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus".
|
||
|
||
23 Nov 1998
|
||
35th Anniversary of Doctor Who.
|
||
|
||
1 Dec 1998
|
||
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
|
||
Tom Jennings.
|
||
|
||
16 Feb 1999
|
||
13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.
|
||
|
||
12 May 1999
|
||
12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
|
||
10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.
|
||
|
||
24 Jul 1999
|
||
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
|
||
|
||
9 Jun 1999
|
||
Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.
|
||
|
||
10 Sep 1999
|
||
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.
|
||
|
||
26 Oct 1999
|
||
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
|
||
|
||
31 Dec 1999
|
||
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 2000
|
||
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
|
||
|
||
1 Jun 2000
|
||
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
|
||
|
||
15 Sep 2000
|
||
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
||
|
||
21 Sep 2000
|
||
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 2001
|
||
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
||
|
||
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
||
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 17 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 18 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FIDONET BY INTERNET
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
|
||
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
|
||
|
||
FidoNet:
|
||
|
||
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
|
||
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
|
||
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
|
||
WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
|
||
FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
|
||
Echomail [pending]
|
||
WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
|
||
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
|
||
http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
|
||
|
||
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
|
||
|
||
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
|
||
|
||
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
|
||
|
||
Region 19: http://www.compconn.net
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
ZEC2:
|
||
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/
|
||
|
||
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
|
||
|
||
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
|
||
|
||
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
|
||
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
|
||
|
||
Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
|
||
|
||
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
|
||
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
|
||
|
||
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
|
||
|
||
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 19 28 Sep 1998
|
||
|
||
|
||
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (Swiss?)
|
||
|
||
Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
|
||
|
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4: http://www.altern.org/zone4
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Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
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Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
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Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
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and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
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no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
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that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
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should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
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TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
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to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
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-----------oOo-------------
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 20 28 Sep 1998
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+-----------
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1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k | $10/$20mo.
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1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
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1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
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1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | F2I | ??? | $2mo.
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1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE,F2I | 28.8 | $10/yr.
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1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
|
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1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $1mo.
|
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1:2424/3121| Earl Clark | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
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1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
|
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1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | 33.6 | $15yr.
|
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1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
|
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1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
|
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1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler | UUE,F2I | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
|
||
1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
|
||
2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
|
||
2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
|
||
2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy | F2I | ??? | n/c
|
||
5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
|
||
--
|
||
+ VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
|
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+ F2I = Fido2Int (W95)
|
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+ UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers
|
||
|
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compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
|
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Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
|
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-
|
||
___
|
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! Origin: * Fly By Night * (609)814-1978 *(1:2623/71)
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FIDONEWS 15-39 Page 21 28 Sep 1998
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|
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|
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|
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Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/
|
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ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
|
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
|
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|
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And in non-English formats via:
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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