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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 14, Number 26 30 June 1997
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | 1-904-409-7040 [1:1/23] |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Christopher Baker 1:18/14 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: FidoNews Editor 1:1/23 |
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| MORE addresses: |
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| submissions=> cbaker84@digital.net |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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| please refer to the end of this file. |
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TOM JENNINGS IS NOT DEAD!
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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It's over! ............................................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2
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Announcing the FidoSpine Distribution System for Echoma .. 2
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Is The End Near? ......................................... 2
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3. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 5
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FSC-0089 - The INTL netmail addressing control line ...... 5
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FSC-0090 - FTSC Issued Product Codes ..................... 5
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FSC-0091 - IDSN Nodelist flags ........................... 7
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4. COORDINATORS CORNER ...................................... 16
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Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 178 ...... 16
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5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 17
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Will Southern Baptists Boycott FidoNet soon? ............. 17
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6. NOTICES .................................................. 20
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Future History ........................................... 20
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7. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 21
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Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 21
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8. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 25
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FidoNews PGP public-key listing .......................... 25
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9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 26
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10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 28
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 1 30 Jun 1997
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EDITORIAL
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The final installment of the FTSC docs appears in this Issue. If we
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get a new FTSC, they have docs of their own but nothing in the volume
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of the set now finished publishing. [grin]
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Speaking of webpages...
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Anyone know what happened to the Region 15 page? Region 19's is also
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reporting 'no such server' but that may just have been the load. How
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about ZEC2? Steve Woodmore came and went and then came back again but
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the ZEC2 and Z2Elist pages don't seemed to have followed. Anybody over
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there got new URLs for those? Zone 6's link also seems to have failed
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but that could have been the load as well. [Late note: got a NEW URL
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for ZEC2 at http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm which is now
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reflected in the FidoNet by Internet section. ZEC2 is still working
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on the new one.]
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And speaking of missing...
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Anyone know if Latvia's phone system is down? When I try to call over
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there I get a 'system unavailable' intercept and a regular poller from
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over there hasn't called here in a couple weeks.
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This is the last Issue of my first year as FidoNews Editor. Next week,
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1427 will mark where I picked up the ball when Tees disappeared [and
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no, I still don't know what happened to him or where he went]. Time
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sure flies when you're making the news. [snicker]
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Echomail rumblings in this Issue. Looks like the RECs may finally be
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organizing. What next? Echopol?
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What's new on the IC front?
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C.B.
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 2 30 Jun 1997
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ARTICLES
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Announcing the FidoSpine Distribution System for Echomail
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Over the past years, Fidonet administrative echoes have seen an
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increasing amount of discussion about the status of echomail, routed
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netmail, distribution systems, etc. A number of us charged with the
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smooth operation of Fidonet believe that individual nets and/or nodes
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need to be empowered to choose their source of echomail and routed
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netmail beyond the existing distribution systems.
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Accordingly, a number of Regional Echomail Coordinators and Regional
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Coordinators have collaborated in creating the FidoSpine Distribution
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System which will give all Regions, Nets, and Nodes an inexpensive
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partner for obtaining Echomail and File feeds, and will allow for the
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proper routing of netmail under the supervision of the Regional
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Coordinators and their assistants, the RECs.
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Currently, there are five major FidoSpine hubs that offer both
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landline as well as FTP and/or TransX feeds:
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Bob Seaborn, 1:140/1 bseaborn@quadrant.net
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Peter Rocca, 1:2401/305 rocca@multiboard.com
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Ed Georgen, 1:2222/1 ed.georgen@station-1.com
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Jerry Gause, 1:3651/9 gpgause@pdn.net
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Jim Balcom, 1:109/334 balcomj@daddy.com
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These five hubs can supply any net or node with the level of service
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they desire. For a list of echos carried by FidoSpine FREQ FIDONET.NOW
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from any of the above. Additional hubs are planned for each region.
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Please link into SP_GENERAL for more information about FidoSpine. Free
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feed for this echo is available from the above hubs or from the
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undersigned:
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Bob Kohl, RC10/REC10 1:10/0
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Martin Belcke, RC11 1:11/0
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Ed Georgen, REC11 1:2222/1
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David Moufarrege, RC13 1:13/0
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Jim Balcom, REC13 1:13/1
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Dallas Hinton, RC17 1:17/0
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John Mudge, REC17 1:17/1
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Dave Anderson, REC18 1:18/218
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Is The End Near?
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By: Clay Tannacore 1:372/4
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Is the end of FidoNet in the perceivable future? Does FidoNet have
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the ability to withstand the plethora of users heading for The
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Internet? Is the rapidly decreasing NODELIST any indication of
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FidoNets inevitable death?
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 3 30 Jun 1997
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These are questions that I ask myself, daily. These are the same
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questions many in FidoNet today are asking themselves. These are the
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questions you should be asking yourselves as members of FidoNet.
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These are questions that should never have had to be asked by the
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members of this association. For as surely as FidoNet was the biggest
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and best amateur association in the telecommunication field, it now
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must take a back seat to The Internet, because of the inefficient
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leadership of the association and a technology that at best is
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"dated".
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I think the time has come when we, the members of this association,
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need to take a careful look at just what is happening in FidoNet
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today. Recently we have witnessed an attempt by a few to "customize"
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FidoNet to suit their personal agendas. These individuals known as
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SSTARS or more commonly called the "BACKBONE" have without authority
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of POLICY4 taken it upon themselves to "censor" a certain conference
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by removing it from distribution by the "BACKBONE". Without
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notification to the moderator of the conference in question, all three
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SSTARS agreed (purportedly) to halt distribution of this echo,
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contrary to procedures set forth in POLICY4. Conspiring with the
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three SSTARS was a "self appointed" individual who called himself the
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Overseer of Backbone Operations (OBO). This malcontent who conjured
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up this OBO position, did so again without authority of POLICY4. The
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three SSTARS and the OBO apparently have come to some sort of
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agreement to isolate, if not totally removed, the *EC position from
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FidoNet.
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The malefactors in their attempt to take over FidoNet, or at least
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"control" it by means of "EchoMail blackmail", have given the members
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of this association a choice. You either "live with the way we want
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things to run, or go to hell and find another way to get your mail".
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The above is but one small episode in the path of destruction that I
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fear FidoNet is following. There are many others equally as
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devastating taking place, and no one in a position to halt these
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infractions is doing anything (apparently) at all. The members have
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raised their voices in protest, but have been silenced by either
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ineptness as to how to do anything, or through the lack of support of
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other members who care little about FidoNet and haven't the
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testosterone to engage in battle those who would bring down this
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brotherhood.
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Another reason for my concern pertaining to FidoNets conceivable
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demise is I have just finished reading the latest addition of FIDONEWS
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(1425), in which the editor (Chris Baker) make reference to the lack
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of distribution of our newspaper in Zone 2. POLICY4 says that
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FIDONEWS is "the glue that hold us together" (or some such nonsense),
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in which case we had better start looking to another "fastening
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device" to do the job. FIDONEWS has now turned into an outlet for the
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American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) enrollment/membership campaign
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and fund raiser. We find ourselves reading how great they (ACLU) are,
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and what they have done for us in the telecommunication fields.
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GREAT! Let us all send in our last cent to an organization that is so
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anti-American, that even the old USSR wouldn't tolerate it. No matter
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what your opinion is concerning the ACLU, I see little value of
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publishing their agendas in our (FidoNets) news-letter/paper. Why
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 4 30 Jun 1997
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can't we have articles published by SysOps in FidoNet? Why hasn't the
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"leadership" of FidoNet attempted to "keep in touch" with the common
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folks by using this media? Why must it be left up to the sycophants
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(like myself) to publish their views in FIDONEWS?
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Why, why, why? I'll give you my opinion. Because we deserve just
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what we're getting. We have allowed the power-brokers to manipulate
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FidoNet for so long, it would take a massive enema to clean up the
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crap we have to live with now. We have sat back and watched the take
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over with the attitudes that "someone else will put a stop to this"
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for so long, we have forgotten how to do battle. We have become a
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slothful bunch of indolent jerks, with no backbone and a testosterone
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level of piss-gnats. Not me of course, I have a good excuse for not
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fighting back. I'm Italian! That's just about as good of an excuse
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as anyone else out there has, so, why not?
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Folks, we need to take action (lock-n-load) quickly if we ever want
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this association to live. We need major adjustments to POLICY4
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[4.07]. We NEED an EchoMail (ECHOPOL) policy that ALL can agree on,
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and we need to get it implemented, PDQ. There has been a new
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conference established specifically for discussions pertaining to an
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EchoMail Policy and it's called "FIDOECHOPOL" and I encourage EVERYONE
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to import it, and participate in it.
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In the meantime, I wish you all the best, and I apologize for the need
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I felt in writing this article, as I know how infuriating I can
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be . . . [snicker]
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 5 30 Jun 1997
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GETTING TECHNICAL
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[This is the last installment of the FidoNet History series dealing
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with FidoNet Standards and Proposals. These docs have been
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reformatted to 70 columns as required. This may cause internal tables
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to appear askew. High ASCII characters have been converted or
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removed. Node numbers and telephone numbers may be out of date.] Ed.
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| Document: FSC-0089
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| Version: 001
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| Date: 31 October, 1995
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| Robert Williamson FidoNet#1:167/104.0
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The INTL: netmail addressing control line
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Robert Williamson FidoNet#1:167/104.0
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Purpose: to provide complete destination and origin addressing
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information.
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Replaces: INTL, TOPT, FMPT, MSGTO and DOMAIN:
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Usage: ALL netmail.
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Format:
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Fully Qualified FTN Addresses (FQFA) are used to simply parseing.
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All fields must be present, nothing may be assumed. It is
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differentiated from the old INTL control by the presence of the
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colon ":". The colon also makes it fully compliaint with the control
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line convention specified in FTS1.
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SOH||INTL:" "DFTN#dzone:dnet/dnode.dpoint
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OFTN#ozone:onet/onode.opoint||CR
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d.... indicates a Destination address field
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o.... indicates an Originator address field
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dftn and oftn are uppercase.
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|| indicates concatination and is used for illustration only.
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SOH = 0x01
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CR = 0x0D
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| Document: FSC-0090
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| Version: 001
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| Date: 9 December, 1995
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 6 30 Jun 1997
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| Author: David Nugent, 3:632/348@fidonet
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FTSC Issued Product Codes
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by David Nugent, December 9, 1995.
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For many years, the FidoNet Technical Standards Committee has been
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issuing product codes for use in FidoNet products used on the
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network (specifically those products responsible for creation and
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exchange of data over the network; products creating FidoNet type-
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2 packets described in FTS-0001 and mailers talking together using
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FidoNet protocols described in FTS-0001, FTS-0006, FTS-0007 and
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FSC-0056. The primary purpose of using these product codes was not
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to create a registry of FidoNet related products, but to
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facilitate the identification of products responsible for network
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problems and providing a means by which authors might be contacted
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by the Committee should problems with a specific product be
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brought to its attention. Products issued with FTSC codes
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In respect to this objective, the results have only been partially
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successful. True, the product code list has been used from time to
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time both to identify aberrant products and also to contact
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authors and is still occasionally used for this purpose by both
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Committee members and others.
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The number of products which can be allocated FTSC product codes
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had some years ago exceeded expectation. Since FTS-0001 "type-2"
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FidoNet packets allocate a mere 8 bit field for the product code,
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that set the effective maximum number of products which could be
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allocated a product code to 256. All numbers had been allocated or
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reserved by early 1991.
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The issue was discussed at some length by the FTSC which debated
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first the worth of continuing to issue product codes, and secondly
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if the practice was to be continued, to effect changes in the FTS-
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0001 packet header format to accommodate at least a 16-bit (two-
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octet) product code. The first issue was resolved in favour of
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retaining the product codes, but as yet, now in 1995, the second
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issue has not been resolved by Committee members. Two of the later
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FSC documents submitted to the Committee had indeed allocated an
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additional byte for the product code, but had elected to reuse the
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existing product code byte as the 'lower' half of the new product
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code, which would cause existing products to be incorrectly
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identified by existing FTS-0001 compatible FidoNet
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implementations. The behaviour of this incorrect identification
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has an undefined effect. Both proposals were rejected by the
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Committee on that basis.
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FidoNet product codes are used in the following circumstances:
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a) by mailers during FTS-0001 sessions; session negotiation is
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the exchange of FTS-0001 packet headers,
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b) by products which create type-2 packets,
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c) by mailers during negotiation of FTS-0006 (YooHoo) and
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FSC-0056 (EMSI) sessions.
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FTS-0006 sessions allocate 16-bits for a product code, and
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 7 30 Jun 1997
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FSC-0056 places no specific limits on size (although a 16-bit or
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32-bit limitation might be implied and used in implementations).
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The conclusion from this is that FidoNet product codes are still
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useful to FidoNet mailers during session negotiation using FidoNet
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enhanced handshaking protocols. Therefore, product codes are now
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being issued only for mailer products with FTS-0006 and/or
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FSC-0056 capability.
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FidoNet products without an allocated product code which either
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create type-2 packets, or negotiate FTS-0001 sessions must use a
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product code x'fe or 254 in type-2 compatible packet headers. This
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code as been reserved for that purpose (use by product without a
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product code). The product code x'ff or 255 has been reserved to
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indicate that the product code is stored elsewhere in the packet
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header at an as yet unallocated offset (please do not use this as
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yet - this FSC will be modified accordingly when FTS-0001 is
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updated to designate the correct offset).
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-30-
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| Document: fsc-0091
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| Version: 001
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| Date: 01 Jun 1996
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| Arjen Lentz, 2:283/512
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ISDN nodelist flags (rev.002) Arjen Lentz (agl@bitbike.com)
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addendum to FTS-0005 FidoNet 2:283/512
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superceding FSC-0075 October 30th, 1995
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Input from Michael Buenter, Jan Ceuleers, Chris Lueders, and others.
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Thanks!
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The proposed new information text in nodelist trailer is as follows:
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Nodelist Specification of minimal support required for this flag;
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flag any additional support to be arranged via agreement
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between users ========
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=================================================================
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V110L ITU-T V.110 19k2 async ('low').
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V110H ITU-T V.110 38k4 async ('high').
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V120L ITU-T V.120 56k async, layer 2 framesize 259, window 7,
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modulo 8.
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V120H ITU-T V.120 64k async, layer 2 framesize 259, window 7,
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modulo 8.
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X75 ITU-T X.75 SLP (single link procedure) with 64kbit/s B
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channel; layer 2 max.framesize 2048, window 2, non-
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ext.mode (modulo 8); layer 3 transparent (no packet
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 8 30 Jun 1997
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layer).
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ISDN Other configurations. Use *only* if none of the above
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fits.
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===================================================================
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======== NOTE: No flag implies another. Each capability MUST be
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specifically listed. If no modem connects are support, the
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nodelist speed field should be 300.
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Conversion from old to new ISDN capability flags:
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- Nodes in the USA currently use the 'ISDN' flag.
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Most will be able to change to V120H (64k lines).
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Also many to V120L,V120H (64k lines) with autodetecting
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equipment.
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Some to only V120L (still with 56k lines).
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- Nodes in Europe currently use the ISDNA, ISDNB and ISDNC flags.
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A simple translation will do the trick here.
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ISDNA -> V110L
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ISDNB -> V110H
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ISDNC -> X75
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FSC-0092 - New control lines for forwarded msgs
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| Document: FSC-0092
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| Version: 001
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| Date: September 12th 1996
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| Author: Michael Hohner
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New control lines
|
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for forwarded messages
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by
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Michael Hohner
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2:2490/2520.17
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September 1996
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Status of this document:
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||
|
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This document proposes a standard for the Fidonet(tm)
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community and for other networks using Fido technology. It
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may be freely distributed if unchanged.
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You can reach the author at one of the addresses listed at
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the end of the document.
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Abstract:
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Most fidonet message editors offer a "forward" function.
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Using this function a user A can sort of "redirect" a message
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 9 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
from user B to another user C, maybe because A is not the
|
||
correct recipient or because C is a better person to answer
|
||
the message. The name and address of B are usually included
|
||
in the forward in free-text format. The message text is
|
||
included in non-quoted format.
|
||
|
||
A problem arises when the final recipient C wants to reply to
|
||
sender B of the forwarded message. The forward contains the
|
||
intermediate user A as the sender. So user C must insert the
|
||
name and address of B manually, using the information
|
||
contained in the message text. The message editor of C can't
|
||
do this automatically because of the free-text format. The
|
||
editor will also use incorrect quote initials, which is at
|
||
least irritating.
|
||
|
||
This document introduces 6 new control lines which contain
|
||
the header information of the original message. With these
|
||
control lines the message editor can use the original header
|
||
information automatically.
|
||
|
||
Specifications:
|
||
|
||
There are 7 new control lines: FWDFROM, FWDTO, FWDORIG,
|
||
FWDDEST, FWDSUBJ, FWDAREA, FWDMSGID. As all control lines
|
||
they start with an ASCII 01 character followed by the control
|
||
line name followed by whitespace followed by the control
|
||
line's content followed by ASCII 13.
|
||
|
||
Please note that all these control lines do not have a colon
|
||
(like the control lines in FTS-0001). This would be just
|
||
waste of space.
|
||
|
||
FWDFROM
|
||
-------
|
||
|
||
This control line contains the name of the original sender as
|
||
found in the FROM field of the original message. Leading and
|
||
trailing whitespace should be removed. This control line
|
||
should be omitted altogether if the FROM field is empty.
|
||
|
||
FWDTO
|
||
-----
|
||
|
||
This control line contains the name of the original recipient
|
||
as found in the TO field of the original message. Leading and
|
||
trailing whitespace should be removed. This control line
|
||
should be omitted altogether if the TO field is empty.
|
||
|
||
FWDORIG
|
||
-------
|
||
|
||
This control line contains the address of the original sender
|
||
as found in the ORIG field of the original message. The usual
|
||
5D ASCII notation (zone:net/node.point@domain) should be
|
||
used. This control line should be omitted altogether if the
|
||
address is not known.
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 10 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
FWDDEST
|
||
-------
|
||
|
||
This control line contains the address of the original
|
||
recipient as found in the DEST field of the original message.
|
||
The usual 5D ASCII notation (zone:net/node.point@domain)
|
||
should be used. This control line should be omitted
|
||
altogether if the address is not known or unsure
|
||
(as it is the case with forwarded echomail messages).
|
||
|
||
FWDSUBJ
|
||
-------
|
||
|
||
This control line contains the subject line of the original
|
||
message. This control line should be omitted altogether if
|
||
the SUBJ field is empty. This control line should by made
|
||
optional for security reasons. Echo manager passwords are too
|
||
easily revealed with it.
|
||
|
||
FWDAREA
|
||
-------
|
||
|
||
This control line contains the name of the echomail area
|
||
where the original message was forwarded from. It should be
|
||
omitted altogether if the original message was not forwarded
|
||
from an echomail area.
|
||
|
||
FWDMSGID
|
||
--------
|
||
|
||
This control line contains the MSGID control line of the
|
||
original message. It should be omitted altogether if a MSGID
|
||
control line is not present in the original message.
|
||
|
||
Usage:
|
||
|
||
When the "forward" function of the message editor is invoked,
|
||
the editor program should generate the proposed control lines
|
||
from the header of the original message. If the original
|
||
message already was a forwarded one (indicated by the
|
||
presence of at least a FWDORIG control line), the editor
|
||
should keep all FWD* control lines and should not add any
|
||
FWD* control lines. This preserves the FWD* control lines of
|
||
the first forwarder, containing the header data of the author
|
||
of the original message.
|
||
|
||
The editor should not generate FWD* control lines, if the
|
||
message isn't to be forwarded. A mail forwarding robot may
|
||
also generate these control lines, if it not just readdresses
|
||
the message.
|
||
|
||
When the "reply" function of the editor is invoked the
|
||
program should use the control lines' contents instead of the
|
||
header information. The control lines should not be included
|
||
in the reply.
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 11 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
Since it may not be immediately clear whether the user wants
|
||
to reply to the forwarder or to the original sender, the
|
||
editor should offer a means to ignore the proposed control
|
||
lines and start a "normal" reply instead, e.g. by two
|
||
distinct functions, user preference or dialog.
|
||
|
||
Pseudo code:
|
||
|
||
forwarding_message:
|
||
if is_forwarded_message then
|
||
don't change FWD* control lines
|
||
else
|
||
add FWD* control lines
|
||
|
||
quoting_message:
|
||
if is_forwarded_message then
|
||
if reply_to_forwarder then
|
||
use header data (normal quoting)
|
||
else
|
||
use FWD* control lines
|
||
remove FWD* control lines from reply
|
||
else
|
||
use header data (normal quoting)
|
||
|
||
other_functions:
|
||
remove/ignore FWD* control lines
|
||
|
||
Example:
|
||
|
||
Message from Joe User to my boss node:
|
||
|
||
From: Joe User 1:234/567
|
||
To: Harry Herrmannsdoerfer 2:2490/2520
|
||
Subj: Some questions
|
||
@MSGID: 1:234/567 12345678
|
||
Text: Hello Harry!
|
||
...
|
||
|
||
Harry forwards the message to me:
|
||
|
||
From: Harry Herrmannsdoerfer 2:2490/2520
|
||
To: Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520.17
|
||
Subj: Joe's message
|
||
@FWDFROM Joe User
|
||
@FWDORIG 1:234/567
|
||
@FWDTO Harry Herrmannsdoerfer
|
||
@FWDDEST 2:2490/2520
|
||
@FWDSUBJ Some questions
|
||
@FWDMSGID 1:234/567 12345678
|
||
Text: Hi Michael!
|
||
...
|
||
|
||
My answer using the new control lines:
|
||
|
||
From: Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520.17
|
||
To: Joe User 1:234/567
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 12 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
Subj: Some questions
|
||
@REPLY: 1:234/567 12345678
|
||
Text: Hi Joe!
|
||
|
||
JU> ...
|
||
...
|
||
|
||
Compatiblity:
|
||
|
||
Editor programs which are not prepared for the proposed
|
||
control lines usually just ignore them and remove them from a
|
||
reply. A reply goes to the forwarder. Nothing gained and
|
||
nothing lost.
|
||
|
||
Implementations:
|
||
|
||
This proposal is implemented in the author's Fidonet editor
|
||
"FleetStreet for OS/2" (versions 1.17 and above).
|
||
|
||
Contacting the author:
|
||
|
||
The author may be contacted electronically at the following
|
||
addresses:
|
||
|
||
Fidonet: 2:2490/2520.17
|
||
Internet: miho@osn.de
|
||
CompuServe: 100425,1754
|
||
|
||
Suggestions, comments and corrections are always welcome.
|
||
|
||
-30-
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FSC-0093 - Reduced seen-by lines
|
||
|
||
| Document: FSC-0093
|
||
| Version: 001
|
||
| Date: 13 September, 1996
|
||
| Title: Reduced seen-by lines
|
||
| Author: Frank Ellermann, 2:240/5815.1
|
||
|
||
Reduced seen-by lines
|
||
Frank Ellermann, 2:240/5815.1
|
||
|
||
Abstract
|
||
--------
|
||
A way to save great amounts (estimated 10 %) of echo mail traffic by
|
||
reducing "seen by" informations, compatible with existing echo mail
|
||
tossers conforming to FTS-0004.
|
||
|
||
Definitions
|
||
-----------
|
||
A thorough understanding of FTS-0004 is required, the reader should
|
||
be familiar with PATH and SEEN-BY lines in echo mail, illegal and
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 13 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
legal echo mail distribution topologies, i.e. dup-rings, as well
|
||
as with some pre-requisite knowledge of zones, 4D and 2D addresses,
|
||
and the "sticky" 2D notation in PATH and SEEN-BY lines.
|
||
|
||
PATH: path lines as specified in FTS-0004
|
||
FSB: full seen-by informations as specified in FTS-0004
|
||
TSB: tiny seen-by informations as mentioned in FTS-0004, see below
|
||
RSB: reduced seen-by informations specified below
|
||
dupe: multiple arrival of the same echo mail (e.g. different paths)
|
||
|
||
Examples of echo mail distribution topologies
|
||
---------------------------------------------
|
||
In all examples a) to d) echo mail entered at system 1 is sent to
|
||
systems 2 and 3 with FSB 1 2 3. Therefore system 2 (3) knows, that
|
||
system 3 (2) already got this mail, topology a) is perfectly legal.
|
||
|
||
a) 1 - 3 b) 1 - 3 c) 1 - 3 d) 1 - 2
|
||
| / | | | / | | X |
|
||
2 2 - 4 2 - 4 2 - 4
|
||
|
||
In the exanmples b) and c) both systems 2 and 3 forward all mails
|
||
from system 1 to system 4, these topologies contain a dup-ring and
|
||
are therefore illegal following FTS-0004.
|
||
|
||
The examples a) and d) show fully connected polygons with three or
|
||
four nodes. In example d) a mail entered at system 1 is sent to
|
||
systems 2, 3, and 4 with FSB 1 2 3 4. The topologies a) and d) are
|
||
perfectly legal, there are no dupes caused by distribution.
|
||
|
||
In example b) each mail entered at system 1 reaching system 4 via
|
||
system 2 carries FSB 1 2 3 4, therefore system 4 will not forward
|
||
such mails to 3. Using TSB at system 2 the same mails would carry
|
||
TSB 2 4, therefore system 4 would forward them to 3 as dupes.
|
||
|
||
Note that illegal topologies as in example b) and c) cause dupes
|
||
with either FSB or TSB. The real problem with TSB is example b),
|
||
as it allows for loop mails on the dup-ring 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - ...
|
||
and vice versa, if no additional checks for dupes are employed.
|
||
|
||
With RSB (specified below) systems contained in the PATH are not
|
||
stripped from the seen-by informations, therefore RSB avoid loop
|
||
mail much like FSB.
|
||
|
||
FSB algorithm
|
||
-------------
|
||
1) add own system to the PATH.
|
||
2) all area links not contained in the FSB qualify as recipients.
|
||
3) add own address(es) to the FSB set if not already contained.
|
||
4) add recipients to FSB, sort FSB, forward mail to recipients.
|
||
|
||
TSB algorithm
|
||
-------------
|
||
1) add own system to the PATH.
|
||
2) all area links not contained in the TSB qualify as recipients.
|
||
3) strip old TSB and start new TSB with own address(es).
|
||
4) add recipients to TSB, sort TSB and forward mail to recipients.
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 14 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
RSB algorithm
|
||
-------------
|
||
1) add own system to the PATH.
|
||
2) all area links not contained in the RSB qualify as recipients.
|
||
3) strip RSB addresses not matching an address in the PATH, then
|
||
add own address(es) to the RSB set if not already contained.
|
||
4) add recipients to RSB, sort RSB and forward mail to recipients.
|
||
|
||
PATH considerations
|
||
-------------------
|
||
There are 2 problems with the PATH kludge as specified in FTS-0004:
|
||
|
||
First like in the FSB the addresses in the PATH are 2D, and having
|
||
the same 2D address in different zones is possible. Therefore zone
|
||
gates are required to use the TSB algorithm. Unfortunately the PATH
|
||
is forwarded without regarding zone gating, therefore detection of
|
||
loop mail based solely on the PATH could be erroneous.
|
||
|
||
Further FTS-0004 (written 1989) expects future echo mail tossers to
|
||
implement PATH support, but doesn't require this support from old
|
||
implementations. Strictly spoken the PATH is still only an option.
|
||
|
||
In some areas of FidoNet (e.g. in zone 2) at least all non-terminal
|
||
nodes are required to fully support the PATH line, therefore this
|
||
problem will probably not show up in praxis. Of course any tosser
|
||
implementing the RSB feature is required to fully support the PATH.
|
||
|
||
Summary
|
||
-------
|
||
To show the benfits of RSB compared with FSB assume the following:
|
||
|
||
An echo mail travels from node to echo hub, host, major star, echo
|
||
host, hub, and finally arrives at a recipient. Each routing system
|
||
has 10 links, i.e. FSB at the recipient contain 51 addresses, about
|
||
400 characters, but RSB only 15 addresses in about 150 characters.
|
||
|
||
Therefore in an echo mail with 2500 characters about 10 % of its
|
||
size can be reduced using RSB in favour of FSB. If this estimation
|
||
is applicable on world wide FidoNet echo mail traffic, RSB can save
|
||
us an immense amount of costs.
|
||
|
||
This document can be adopted by the FTSC as FTS, in this case it
|
||
has to be regarded as an addition to FTS-0004 with the extension,
|
||
that all non-terminal nodes are required to support PATH lines as
|
||
specified in FTS-0004.
|
||
|
||
For additional informations (e.g. aspects of zone gating) feel free
|
||
to send mails to Frank Ellermann 2:240/5815 or leo@bfispc.hanse.de
|
||
|
||
- eof -
|
||
|
||
-30-
|
||
|
||
[Thus ends ALL the current FTSC Standards and Proposals on file
|
||
to-date except for the ones noted as being too large for FidoNews
|
||
publication. ALL of these files are available as noted in the
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 15 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
Masthead information and from 1:18/14 as FTSC or FTSC-ALL for the
|
||
actual filename of FTSC-ALL.ZIP. Whether there will be any more FTSC
|
||
docs published, is open to speculation.] Ed.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 16 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
COORDINATORS CORNER
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
Nodelist-statistics as seen from Zone-2 for day 178
|
||
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
|
||
ZC/2
|
||
|
||
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
||
|Zone|Nl-150|Nodelist-157|Nodelist-164|Nodelist-171|Nodelist-178|%%|
|
||
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
||
| 1 | 8277| 8182 -95 | 8182 0 | 8182 0 | 8182 0 |31|
|
||
| 2 | 15835|15774 -61 |15703 -71 |15666 -37 |15640 -26 |59|
|
||
| 3 | 765| 758 -7 | 758 0 | 758 0 | 743 -15 | 3|
|
||
| 4 | 543| 519 -24 | 514 -5 | 514 0 | 519 5 | 2|
|
||
| 5 | 87| 87 0 | 87 0 | 87 0 | 87 0 | 0|
|
||
| 6 | 1078| 1078 0 | 1078 0 | 1079 1 | 1079 0 | 4|
|
||
+----+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+--+
|
||
| 26585|26398 -187 |26322 -76 |26286 -36 |26250 -36 |
|
||
+------+------------+------------+------------+------------+
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 17 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NET HUMOR
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
To: cbaker84@digital.net
|
||
From: top5@lists.zdnet.com
|
||
Subject: Top5 - 6/23/97 - Southern Baptist Boycotts
|
||
Errors-To: top5-errors@lists.zdnet.com
|
||
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:23:57 MDT
|
||
|
||
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|
||
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||
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||
|
||
June 23, 1997
|
||
|
||
The Top 15 Other Boycotts of the Southern Baptists
|
||
|
||
|
||
15> Christmas carols, for promoting gay apparel
|
||
|
||
14> The Food Channel, because of repeated use of the terms "Beef
|
||
Tenderloins" and "Chicken Breast"
|
||
|
||
13> Devils Food Chocolate Birthday Cakes--oh, what the heck,
|
||
birthdays, too!
|
||
|
||
12> Richard Simmons, because "There's something just not quite
|
||
right about that man."
|
||
|
||
11> McDonald's, because "They're Irish."
|
||
|
||
10> "Poblec Skools"
|
||
|
||
9> No more Marilyn Manson concerts performed in Disney-owned
|
||
venues
|
||
|
||
8> Pink Panther - gay or communist, hard to tell, doesn't
|
||
matter
|
||
|
||
7> Warner Brothers for putting a talking, naked-from-the-waist-
|
||
down pig in their cartoons
|
||
|
||
6> Ben-Gay Ointment
|
||
|
||
5> Marvin Gaye records
|
||
|
||
4> The Smithsonian's Homo Erectus exhibit
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 18 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
3> Mentos? The *Devil's* candy!
|
||
|
||
2> Federal Express - no respectable company says "package" in
|
||
public
|
||
|
||
and the Number 1 Other Boycott of the Southern Baptists...
|
||
|
||
1> The New York Yankees, because George Steinbrenner is an
|
||
assho -- Uh, a wretched sinner
|
||
|
||
[ This list copyright 1997 by Chris White and Ziff Davis, Inc. ]
|
||
[ The Top Five List top5@walrus.com http://www.topfive.com ]
|
||
[ To forward or repost, please include this section. ]
|
||
|
||
Selected from 81 submissions from 31 contributors.
|
||
Today's Top Five List authors are:
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
Ed Smith, Chattanooga, TN -- 1, 6, Topic (4th #1)
|
||
David W. James, Los Angeles, CA -- 2, 8
|
||
Kevin Freels, Sun Valley, CA -- 3
|
||
Bob Mader, Knoxville, TN -- 4
|
||
Dave George, Arlington, VA -- 4, 9
|
||
John Hering, Alexandria, VA -- 5 (Hall of Famer)
|
||
Rob Seulowitz, New York, NY -- 5, 10
|
||
Barbara Rush, Tulsa, OK -- 7
|
||
Martell Stroup, Reno, NV -- 7
|
||
Gregory Swarthout, Murray, UT -- 7
|
||
Lev L. Spiro, Los Angeles, CA -- 11, 14
|
||
R.M. Weiner, Brighton, MA -- 12
|
||
Jennifer Ritzinger, Seattle, WA -- 13
|
||
Doug Johnson, Santa Cruz, CA -- 15
|
||
Peter Perkowski, Los Angeles, CA -- Witty banner tag
|
||
Chris White, New York, NY -- List owner/editor
|
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|
||
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|
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Ruminations & Ponderances
|
||
|
||
One of my favorite things to do when I was
|
||
a kid was to watch TV. I know it sounds
|
||
funny, but it's true. Ah, reckless youth.
|
||
|
||
(Thanks to R. M. Weiner)
|
||
|
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|
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|
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|
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NOTICES
|
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|
||
|
||
Future History
|
||
|
||
1 Jul 1997
|
||
Canada Day - Happy Birthday Canada.
|
||
|
||
4 Jul 1997
|
||
Independence Day, U.S.A.
|
||
|
||
9 Jul 1997
|
||
Independence Day, Argentina.
|
||
|
||
1 Aug 1997
|
||
International FidoNet PENPAL [Echo] meeting in Dijon, France
|
||
|
||
13 Oct 1997
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Thanksgiving Day, Canada.
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1 Dec 1997
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World AIDS Day.
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10 Dec 1997
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Nobel Day, Sweden.
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12 Jan 1998
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HAL 9000 is one year old today.
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30 Apr 1998
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Queens Day, Holland.
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22 May 1998
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Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
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1 Dec 1998
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Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
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Tom Jennings.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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[The SOF Keeper is out of town this week. Here's the last edition
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received repeated.] Ed.
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Latest Greatest Software Versions
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by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264
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A fairly quiet week around here. Things seems to be settling down into
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some sense of order...
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-=- Snip -=-
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Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
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OS Platform :
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Software package name :
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Version :
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Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
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Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
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Author / Support staff contact name :
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Author / Support staff contact node :
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Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
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Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
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Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
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-=- Snip -=-
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MS-DOS:
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Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
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ALLFIX 4.40 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
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Announcer 1.11 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
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BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
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Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
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BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
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BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
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CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
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CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
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FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
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FastEcho/16 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE16
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FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
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FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
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FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
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GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
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GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
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GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
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FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 22 30 Jun 1997
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
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GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
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Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
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ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
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InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
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InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
|
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InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
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InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
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InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
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IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
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JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
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Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
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Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
|
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JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
|
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JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
|
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MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
|
||
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
|
||
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
|
||
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
|
||
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
|
||
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
|
||
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
|
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Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
|
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O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
|
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PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
||
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
|
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QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
|
||
RAR 2.00 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
|
||
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
|
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Silver Xpress
|
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Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
|
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Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
|
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Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
|
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Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
|
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StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
|
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StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
|
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T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
|
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Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
|
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Terminate 4.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
|
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Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
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TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
|
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TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
|
||
TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
|
||
TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
|
||
TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
|
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WaterGate 0.92 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
|
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WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
|
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WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
|
||
xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
|
||
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
|
||
|
||
OS/2:
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
||
ALLFIX/2 1.10 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
|
||
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 23 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
|
||
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
|
||
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
||
FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
|
||
FleetStreet 1.19 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
|
||
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
|
||
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
|
||
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
||
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
|
||
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
|
||
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
|
||
Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
|
||
PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
|
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RAR 2.00 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
|
||
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
|
||
T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
|
||
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
||
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
|
||
|
||
Windows (16-bit apps):
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
||
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
||
FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
|
||
|
||
Windows (32-bit apps):
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
||
Argus 95 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUS95
|
||
Argus NT 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUSNT
|
||
Argus NT/IP 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUSIP
|
||
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
|
||
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
|
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CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
|
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GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
|
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GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
|
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Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
|
||
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
|
||
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
|
||
T-Mail 2.599I M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
|
||
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
|
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WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
|
||
|
||
Unix:
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
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ifmail 2.10 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
|
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ifmail-tx ...tx8.2 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
|
||
ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.2 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
|
||
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
||
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
||
|
||
Amiga:
|
||
FIDONEWS 14-26 Page 24 30 Jun 1997
|
||
|
||
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
||
CrashMail 1.23 T X Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHMAIL
|
||
CrashTick 1.1 O F Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHTICK
|
||
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
|
||
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
|
||
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
|
||
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
|
||
|
||
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
|
||
2:310/6 TRAPDOOR
|
||
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
|
||
2:310/6 TRAPBETA
|
||
TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS
|
||
|
||
Atari:
|
||
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
|
||
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|
||
ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
|
||
BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
|
||
BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC
|
||
JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
|
||
Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA
|
||
|
||
Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
|
||
C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
|
||
be listed by the first match.
|
||
|
||
Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
|
||
X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source
|
||
|
||
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
|
||
|
||
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|
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FidoNet:
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FTSC page http://www2.blaze.net.au/ftsc.html
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