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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.11 No.27 (34-Jun-1994)
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| A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 |
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| FidoNet BBS community | Published by: |
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| / \ | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| /|oo \ | +1-519-570-4176 1:1/23 |
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| _`@/_ \ _ | Editors: |
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| | | \ \\ | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 |
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| |__U__| / \// | Tim Pozar 1:125/555 |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| Internet addresses: |
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| Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com |
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| Both Don & Sylvia (submission address) |
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| editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies and other boring but important details, |
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| please refer to the end of this file. |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 2
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2. Articles...................................................... 2
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Fidonet in the U.K. & Europe. (Zone 2)...................... 3
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Rainbows.................................................... 5
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NOT Another Information Highway Article..................... 6
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Roadkill on the Information Superhighway.................... 8
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Dear Reverend Visage,....................................... 9
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Literary Masturbation. A view on policies and dead cats!.... 10
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berr beer ! !.............................................. 11
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Fido Newsletter Content..................................... 12
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Beyond cat torture: KID_TORTURE............................. 13
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A Stop-Gap Suggestion For The Nodelist...................... 13
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New Remote Access <==> UUCP utility confusion............... 14
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uploads..................................................... 15
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A Report on Guams Trials and tribulations................... 15
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Dearest MADam Emilia,....................................... 17
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Announcing Creation of ASKAPI............................... 18
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The SLIME Network!.......................................... 19
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 20
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 2 34 Jun 1994
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Editorial
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well, here goes...
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i spent two days fretting and worrying and feeling almost ill with
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the prospect of publishing the Child_torture echo ad. i'm bracing
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misself for losts of flack. i even logged on the the board of the
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sysop who submitted the article, out of curiosity and wanting to
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have my hand held {i'm such a wimp}. I liked the sysop.
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Then i read my favorite echo, which is big on easing tension with
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thoughtful nonsense, to escape and be calm. The Child_torture echo ad
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cuts close to my bones, it upset me, for a while. I had been told a
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week ago that if the word "child" was substituted for the word "cat"
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in the Cat_Torture ad, i would have tossed it into the bit bucket
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without a second thought. This presumptuous statement made me angry.
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Anything, anything, is "fit" to publish, because censorship is
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*always* worse than free speach. I truly believe that wrongness
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is caused caused by REPRESSION of ideas, not by expression of ideas.
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People can not think clearly or behave freely while in mental cages.
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i think the author of the Child_torture ad is brave. He knows he's
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going to be railed. Truly, after worrying for days, i finally came
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to peace with myself about this article. I want anyone who thinks
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i'm insenitive to this issue to know that i spent 10 years of my
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own life alternately being anorexic and puking up my guts over "abuse"
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[i'm tired of this word but lack another one]. Last night, when all
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of me thoroughly decided to run the article in peace, i danced around
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the living room to the Butthole Surfer's "annoying song" with a LOT
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of energy, then ate a huge meal, and fell asleep and had good dreams.
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Censorship, whitewashing, temerity, silence, are all bullshit.
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sincerely,
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sylvia
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[heavy mode permanently OFF. wanna berr?]
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Articles
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 3 34 Jun 1994
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Fidonet in the U.K. & Europe. (Zone 2)
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From: John_Bone LOTT_SysOp (1:8193/8215)
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To: ALL (1:288/8309)
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------ History of FidoNet in Europe --------
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The Following item was in an issue
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of PERSONAL COMPUTER WORLD (PCW)
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magzine in the UK.
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-------- sometime around 1988/9 ------------
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TO: (ALL) NEW READERS
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FROM: Peter Toothill (Liverpool Mailbox - SysOp)
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SUBJ: "MESSAGE from FIDO"
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Fido Net started as the plaything of two comms enthusiasts, in 1984.
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Today, it's a worldwide electronic mail system linked to more than
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20,000 sites.
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Peter Tootill charts the rise of the professional network,
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still run by "amateurs" .
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==========================================================
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Most bulletin board users, know that there is some sort of link-up
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between "Fido" bulletin boards - but many don't realise that Fido Net
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(as it's called) is now a fully-fledged (international) electronic
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mail system.
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These days, too, Fido Net covers a lot more than just Fidos: other
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bulletin board systems (BBSs) such as Opus, TBBS, and Wildcat can join
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in too and there are even some stand-alone electronic mail systems
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that use FidoNet(tm) "email" protocols and can link into the "fidonet"
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mail system.
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WORLDWIDE NETWORK
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Technically, Fido Net is a non-real time packet switching message
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system - in simple terms it is a sophisiticated international
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electronic mail system.
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However instead of using a small number of mainframe computers like
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the commercial systems do, it runs on a large number of microcomputers
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which are all independently operated.
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There are currently about 20,000 nodes on the world list - and I mean
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WORLD list. There are participating networks in North America
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(of course), most Western European countries, Australia, Singapore,
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Malaysia, Indonesia, and the southern and western pacific area.
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You can send a message to anyone using any of these systems simply by
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entering it on your nearest participating bulletin board system. The
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cost is very reasonable as well.
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 4 34 Jun 1994
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A message can be sent to the USA for not much more than the cost of an
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airmail letter (the actual costs vary because they are set by the
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sysops of the individual BBSs themselves).
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FIDO was the brainchild of an American called Tom Jennings. He and a
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friend, john madill, lived on opposite sides of the United States and
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wanted a straight forward way of communicating with each other.
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This was in June 1984 and the first Fido Net messages were soon
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bouncing across the country. Other bulletin board operators became
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interested and joined in. By August 1984 there were 30 nodes and in
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the spring of 1985 nearly 200 nodes. The network has spread widely
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simce then. Today there are over 20,500 nodes of which about 20,000
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are publicly accessible. The rest are private systems, that are
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members of the Net for some particular reason.
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The basic comcept of Fido Net is very simple.
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Each participating BBS closes down at a set time (usually 3.30am -
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4.30am local time) and assembles any outgoing messages into packets.
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It then automatically dials other nodes and sends the packets, waiting
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between calls for incoming packets from other systems.
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This process continues for about an hour, with systems alternately
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dialing and listening, after which they turn back into ordinary BBSs.
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The receiving system unpacks the the messages and stores themin the
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bulletin boards messages area, ready for the addressee(s) to call in
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and read them.
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In the early days, each node simply dialed other nodes direct, and sent
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the messages. This soon became un-workable because of the number of
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systems trying to call each other and more complex structures were
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devised as a result.
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The world was divided into six ZONES. Each Zone is divided into
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Regions and these are sub-divided into nets. Nets usually consist of
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a few dozen or so BBS "fido" systems within the local call area of
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their Host system.
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Messages are routed via these Hosts.
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This has several advantages: it cuts down on congestion and makes for
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more economocal operation - the only long distance calls are between
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Hosts and this mail is usually compressd and sent using high speed
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modems.
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The whole system is designed to keep the actual online time, and hence
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running costs, to an absolute minimum.
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Fido Net is operated entirely by amateurs. The node list is
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maintained by a group in St. Louis and there are a series of levels of
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co-ordinator: one international co-ordinator, then three Zone
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co-ordinators, about 60 regional co-ordinators and probably ovr 1000
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net co-ordinators.
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 5 34 Jun 1994
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The whole set-up is overseen by the International Fido Net Association
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(IFNA).
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Despite the amateur nature of the system, it all appears to be run in
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a very professional and businesslike manner. Indeed it has to be, with
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20,000 plus systems participating, there is no room, for sloppiness!
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ECHOMAIL & CONFMAIL
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A welcome enhancement to Fido Net is called Echomail. This adds
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conferencing to Fido Net's electronic mail capabilities. Until the
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introduction of Echomail, Fido Net was just a point-to-point system,
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in which a message was addressed to a node, and then sent to that node.
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With Echomail, several BBSs join together to carry a conference on a
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particular topic and all messages that are entered in that relevant
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section of each BBS are echo-ed to all that "echo's" participating
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BBSs.
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[ends]
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[Text revised at LOTT 2:256/17 on 22-06-1991]
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[Liverpool Mailbox , online in the UK since 1983]
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Rainbows
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tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings)
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> What is the rainbow crowd?
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The Rainbow Family is a giant (10,000+) nomadic cultural thing in
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North America. They look more or less like "hippies". You don't see
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to much of them usually. They are genuinely nomadic, and hold various
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Gatherings, usually a big annual one. Each year in a different US
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state. About 10,000 people show up, sometimes less. They take
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advantage of US Federal homesteading laws, much to the chagrin of
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authorities. Gatherings are free, and everyone pitches in -- or not.
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They don't worry about it. There are communal meals (pretty minimal
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though, poverty is an assumption so far in the background it's
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startling) made up of donated/liberated/dumpster-dived food. They
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aer not necesseraily vegetarians. They have no or barter or minimal
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economy. I have an ex-roommate who is a Rainbow person now. They are
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definitely way far outside the usual channels. They're quite serious.
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They tend to be vehicle-people, white, babies'n'dogs. They disdain
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alcohol, smoke lots of pot. Usually quite trsutworthy. They are dirty.
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Their methodology for gatherings is unique. They have a "welcome
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committee" up where vehicles come in, who tell you where things are,
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where to park, etc. They also scope people out; if they have alcohol --
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generally the only thing forbidden besides firearms -- instead of a
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lecture or whatever, they say "got any alcohol? Let's drink it! Here's
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some of my pot!" and try to get the owner to consume it on the spot.
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Usually works.
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Two years back, in Nevada, the Great Circle gave Welcome Committee
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 6 34 Jun 1994
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duty to the Faerie camp (the gay/lez bunch within the Family) because
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they did an excellent job of (1) defusing a bunch of asshole bigots
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with fun instead of anger and (2) "took over" a small stage devolving
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into bland ordinary faux hippy folksy music and turned it into a big
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open party. It was a great honor, apparently.
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Too much hippy for me, though the gatherings are definitly worth
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checking out. They are always the first week in July.
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A Council of oldtimers (which apparently anyone can attend and provide
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input, listened to or not I know not) picks the next years site, many
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months in advance. A few months before, a seed group goes to the site,
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and chooses a location distractingly near the real site. This draws
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fire from the locals and authorities, if any trouble arises, and keeps
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eyes of the actual site. They usually rent an apt or something an have
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a stable mail address. Word is spread mouth to mouth and hand to hand.
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No advertising of any sort is generally done, and as far as I can tell,
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is frowned upon. They deal with legal issues (more and more every year
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I guess) and all that.
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About a month before the actual event, another seed group populates
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the site and starts to prepare it. In Nevada, it took place partly on
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private land; the worked out a deal with the owner that they would
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leave it utterly spotless and would install a water system based upon
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a water-hammer ("free" water pump power).
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I can attest to the cleanliness thing. In nevada, I was there and
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left early, so there were only a few thousand people. It was
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*spotless*. On a mian trail, someone had dropped about a half-dozen
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cellophane candy wrappers. It was a Big Deal. It was an issue at the
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Great Circle, and instead of castigation and finger pointing (they the
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do all this stuff internally of course, at big gatherings they tend to
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be fairly cool cuz there's fresh faces and fresh energy) they went on
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about how important it was they left the place clean. Seems to work.
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It's a retty cool thing, iff you like hippies, eating oatmeal as your
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main source of nutrition, walking 6 hours into the woods, carrying
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water, being asked to eat food just cooked as you walk down a trail,
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LSD, get really dirty, dig shitters, keep damnfools from shitting in
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the stream, etc etc. There are some christian hippies. There are more
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queer ones. I hate tie-dye, and mistrust peace and loveism. I own guns
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and like computers. Oh well.
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--
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Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems -- San Francisco
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NOT Another Information Highway Article
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Chris Harper (1:2215/10)
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Editors,
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Here's a message reply I made to someone in my local net, that
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 7 34 Jun 1994
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I'd like to put in Fidonews. A little "my dog's better than
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your dog" ditty. ;-)
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<begin post>
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<EFBFBD> NET 2215 Chat (1:2215/10) <20><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD> 2215CHAT <20>
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Msg : 30 of 30 - 29
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From : Chris Harper 1:2215/10 Mon 27 Jun 94 00:56
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To : Norm Smith
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Subj : <local paper> Article
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On June 26 1994, Norm Smith of (1:2215/240) wrote to All:
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NS> Hi Everyone - in case you hadn't heard, there's going to be
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NS> an article in next Monday or Tuesday's <local paper> about
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NS> local BBS's. It will be on page <#?> of the local section,
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NS> so you can check to see if its there before you spend that
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NS> quarter :) Should be a pretty neat article - check it out!
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NS>
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NS> Norm
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I'm wondering if it'll be ANOTHER "information highway" article
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that completely ignores FidoNet while touting Internet as the
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state of the art.
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That really bugs me. FidoNet handles full 8 bit file transfers
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while Internet won't even allow high ASCII half the time, and
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they make like Internet is the next best thing to water.
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Sure, it's "realtime", but it has it's delays like anything
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else, and it's about as flexible as Mount Rushmore.
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Fido may be slower, but most of the time it gets there with
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fewer conversions (which reduces the odds of errors), and is
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always one heck of a lot cheaper (that is, efficient), too.
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Centralized-DEcentralization, is the key here, that makes that
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work. It maintains organization, while dividing up the load of
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distributing the data, through cooperation of all those who use
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it.
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FidoNet is "a shining example" of what the gerneral public can
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do "when they all pull in the same direction". A world-wide,
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batched processed, computer network, that works, and fairly
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well, too.
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Sure, it's not 100% reliable, but what do you expect from a
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volunteer organization? And it's reliability keeps getting
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better and better, with time filtering out unreliable routes,
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and those who abuse it, through censorship and excommunication.
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And now with the filebone growing within it, FidoNet's
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versitility and utility both, by far exceed what most expect
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from Internet.
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 8 34 Jun 1994
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But above all, it's economicly feasible for EVERYONE to get!
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So, it REALLY bugs me when the media touts Internet, with it's
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cost in the thousands per node per year, compared to Fidonet's
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less than one hundred per year, as being "the way to go", and
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that "the information superhighway" is something that awaits us
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in the future.
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The information superhighway already exists, right here, right
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NOW, in FidoNet!
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Chris Harper, 1:2215/10.0
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<end post>
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Roadkill on the Information Superhighway
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Ryan R Snyder <cs000rrs@selway.umt.edu>
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forwarded by Tom Jenning
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[ a few ">"s and "--"s deleted by editor to make it fit on the page ]
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___________________
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___--- // \ | Information |
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___--- //____ \ | SuperHighway I-S |
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___--- // /____\ \ |___________________|
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// // \ | |
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// // . ,& YOU ARE \ | |
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// // . `;//* HERE \ | |
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// // . `|/^\@'< ' ./___| \
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// // `_/x@=%$P/,', \ \
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// // >@#)*?o$%( , \
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--
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Ryan Snyder | Consultant & Gopher Administrator | University of Montana
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^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^[I have Thumbs of Thunder]^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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All that is now and all that is gone and all that's to come and
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everything under the sun is in tune but the sun is eclipsed by the
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moon. -PF:TDSOTM:E
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 9 34 Jun 1994
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Note to Editor-being prelude: Charles Herriot, of Fido
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1:163/110 is honored to share more war correspondence from
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Doc Logger, pharmaceutical adviser and stringer for the not
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so widely read "Swamp Swine Magazine." In this latest
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missive, to the Reverend & Senator Richard Visage, Logger
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whines about the usual dangers of working with mid-sized
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lethal animals and low flying bats. Roll da' flick, Sylvia...
|
||
|
||
June 30, 1994
|
||
Somewhere in Region12
|
||
It's Just a Step to the right
|
||
|
||
Dear Reverend Visage,
|
||
|
||
Why is it that we play poker I always seem to lose the
|
||
important bets where you drew Serbo-Croatia and I got stuck
|
||
with a venue which is truly twisted and dangerous. Not even
|
||
the largish, horse-bollus, sized tranquilizers that you
|
||
thoughtfully included seems sufficient to halt the rampaging
|
||
hordes of policymongers in this area. If we still have that
|
||
fleet of waterbombers that we used to defoliate half of
|
||
Southeast Asia with Agent Orange, we might want to convert
|
||
them to spray Valium aerosols over this region.
|
||
|
||
As you may not know, the Region12 Co-ordinator has run amok.
|
||
It seems that nets in the Southern Ontario axis have been
|
||
swapping nodes as though they were playing the sort of chess
|
||
that would have made Dean Rusk and Johnson blush through
|
||
their blood-crazed eyes. One particular net, attempted to
|
||
hold their departing nodes hostage by imposing extortionate
|
||
echomail cost recovery refund surcharges. When that failed,
|
||
they sniveled to Rick Johnston, the RC-being.
|
||
|
||
Rick was, by all accounts, a good and decent individual.
|
||
(Hell, I even let him have a dance with one of my favourite
|
||
sheep at one of our social gatherings...er or should that be
|
||
"flockings.") In a move that pushed the envelope on the wrong
|
||
side of boneheaded stupidity, Rick decreed that he would
|
||
impose specific geographic constraints upon *one* net, while
|
||
leaving other nets to poach nodes with wild abandon. (Quite
|
||
frankly, I have never enjoyed poached nodes... not even using
|
||
that recipe that you provided where they get boiled in
|
||
Glenlivet and then served on raw armadillo livers.) What made
|
||
this move a sure candidacy for some recovery time in the
|
||
Betty Ford Clinic For The Thinking Impaired, was that Rick's
|
||
own net contained nodes which clearly violated his own myopic
|
||
notions of geographic rigidity. That which he cited as
|
||
"determined by policy" wasn't applied to his own net.
|
||
|
||
When the usual polite inquiries were made... and I think
|
||
James Korolas used a word that begins with "F" and ends with
|
||
"K" and which isn't "firetruck"; ... Rick scampered into the
|
||
despotic refuge of policy scoundrelry and even invoked the
|
||
august name of Bob Satti,ZC as legitimizing reasons. (Pausing
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 10 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
here to kneel, after mentioning Bob's name, and to proclaim:
|
||
"We're not worthy. We're not worthy.") We may not want to
|
||
enter Rick in the olympics because there is a rumour that his
|
||
response approached the 'roid-rage variety. Rick told the
|
||
democratically elected NC of net250 that he was removed from
|
||
office and was barred from running in a subsequent election.
|
||
|
||
When Net250 informed Rick, again politely, that he should
|
||
remove himself from the presence of sharp instruments and
|
||
policy before he suffered self-inflicted wounds; Rick went
|
||
even more ballistic and arbitrarily removed Luke Kolin from
|
||
the nodelist.
|
||
|
||
As you are aware, I have always been amazed by the
|
||
metamorphosis that seems to spontaneously occur in various
|
||
*C-beings. It seemed like only yesterday that Rick Johnston
|
||
was sucking up to the region's sysops as he campaigned on a
|
||
platform of representing the wishes of sysops, as opposed to
|
||
supporting the Divine Right of Kings philosophy. We are now
|
||
blessed with his shameful retreat behind the skirts of
|
||
policy. Why is it, that when someone cites policy, that it
|
||
invariably means that the statement is a postlude to neural
|
||
malfunctioning? Why is it, when you read the words "I've
|
||
already checked this with Bob Satti" (again, pausing to
|
||
sacrifice a virgin hamster in deference to invoking Bob's
|
||
name) that you *know* that what follows will defy logic,
|
||
natural justice and good sense?
|
||
|
||
In any event, I must send this off. Your secretary has been
|
||
screaming at me for hours, and this really has nothing at all
|
||
to do with the fact the nuclear blast warnings have sounded
|
||
outside Rick's bunker. Give my regards to the nuns.
|
||
|
||
Regards,
|
||
Doc Logger,
|
||
Small Animal Psychology Dept.,
|
||
Swamp Swine Magazine
|
||
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Literary Masturbation. A view on policies and dead cats!
|
||
RICK LITHGOW (1:2601/574)
|
||
|
||
BOP, POLICY 4, Dead cats...
|
||
Spout policy while wearing spats???
|
||
Complain of DEAD_CATS while playing with our thing
|
||
Doesn't the obove have a remindful thing???
|
||
Policy, shmolosey, hunger and blight....
|
||
Dictators make-love to BOP in the light
|
||
Flights of fancy, flights of adventure,
|
||
Killing cats are delusions of grandeur
|
||
You can't do this, you can't do that
|
||
Take your policy and stuffit in your hat
|
||
So much arguing, so much shit.....
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 11 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
I'd rather naw on a peach pit....
|
||
So many kings, so many queens.....
|
||
And oh yes! So many dingalings!
|
||
Sing a song, bang a gong....
|
||
C'mon peoples let's get along!
|
||
|
||
This has not been a haiku!
|
||
|
||
And remember, before you bitch, kvetch and generally complain about
|
||
this, remember......Life's a virgin, a bitch is too easy! There are
|
||
more things in life than to worry about content of msgs, policy, and
|
||
other stupid crap...
|
||
|
||
Rick Lithgow
|
||
|
||
* WCE 1.5/2295 * What! Me Worry?!
|
||
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
berr beer ! !
|
||
FROM FLESH, flesh (Flesh)
|
||
|
||
Top 10 Reasons
|
||
Why Beer Is Better Than Jesus
|
||
-------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
10. No one will kill you for not drinking Beer.
|
||
|
||
9. Beer doesn't tell you how to have sex.
|
||
|
||
8. Beer has never caused a major war.
|
||
|
||
7. They don't force Beer on minors who can't
|
||
think for themselves.
|
||
|
||
6. When you have a Beer, you don't knock on
|
||
people's doors trying to give it away.
|
||
|
||
5. Nobody's ever been burned at the stake,
|
||
hanged, or tortured over his brand of Beer.
|
||
|
||
4. You don't have to wait 2000+ years for a
|
||
second Beer.
|
||
|
||
3. There are laws saying Beer labels can't lie
|
||
to you.
|
||
|
||
2. You can prove you have a Beer.
|
||
|
||
1. If you've devoted your life to Beer, there are
|
||
groups to help you stop.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 12 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
|
||
Fido Newsletter Content
|
||
Neil Lauritsen (1:3603/120)
|
||
|
||
* Forwarded from 1:3603/120, Cat House in Clearwater Fl
|
||
* Originally to ED KELLY on 1:3603/190
|
||
|
||
> Neil,
|
||
> Every week, when I receive the Fido newsletter, I edit the file so
|
||
> that my users may view it online as a bulletin. My "editing" usually
|
||
> consists of removing the end page code from in front of the page
|
||
> statement so that online viewing is enabled.
|
||
> While editing/reading this weeks Newsletter, I came across a copy of
|
||
> a message on pages 31/32 that contained unacceptable language for a
|
||
> family-oriented BBS.
|
||
> The words that I objected to were: "seduce me" "masochism" "a bitch
|
||
> with a nice ass".
|
||
> The entire context of the message had sexual connotations and should
|
||
> not have been included in a world-wide distribution of FidoNews.
|
||
> I am not a prude, but I do my best to keep this kind of crap away
|
||
> from young, impressionable, questioning eyes.
|
||
> Thanks,
|
||
> Ed Kelly, Sysop SPARE TIME BBS
|
||
|
||
> --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0309]
|
||
|
||
Dear Ed..I agree and I run an Adult Oriented BBS. I also strongly
|
||
object to encripted passages or signatures as also appeared in this
|
||
issue. I do have a right to refuse to forward to distribute materials
|
||
which are encripted (and I am a Net Host) as you also have the right
|
||
to refuse to accept articles with unacceptable language as part of
|
||
your FIDO news. Freedom of speech cannot be used as an argument to
|
||
condone these violations of our trust in the editor. His decision to
|
||
print these type of articles for general distribution will cause some
|
||
of us to no longer be willing to forward to them to others or carry
|
||
them on our respective boards as bulletins for our users.
|
||
|
||
Neil - NC3603
|
||
|
||
Dear Editor, Please do not forward for distribution to my net any
|
||
articles which contain any form of encription either in the text or in
|
||
the signature. Nor any articles containing language which you would
|
||
not use in your own house of worship.
|
||
|
||
Please pass this request to ALL of your downlinks. Thankyou.
|
||
|
||
Neil Lauritsen, Sysop Cat House BBS! Systems
|
||
- Net Host PinellasNet 1:3603
|
||
|
||
* Forwarded by Neil Lauritsen on 1:3603/120,
|
||
Cat House in Clearwater Fl
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 13 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
|
||
Beyond cat torture: KID_TORTURE
|
||
|
||
Beyond cat torture: KID_TORTURE
|
||
by Steve Fredette (1:163/551) (apologies to Michael Johnson)
|
||
|
||
Hello FIDOnetters! I want to announce a new echo that I am hoping
|
||
will get off the ground real quickly and make backbone status. I am
|
||
counting on you to help me meet this goal as soon as humanly possibly
|
||
so that we can all surf the cyberwave on KID_TORTURE....which is
|
||
hosted from 163/551
|
||
|
||
Yes, we aren't your run of the mill "I hate children" type
|
||
people. No. We are the folks who love to yank Junior's hair...and
|
||
then swing him/her around in the air by it before releasing said
|
||
infant into a substantial firmament...such as a concrete wall. We are
|
||
creative, caring, loving compassionate people who just plain despise
|
||
children.
|
||
|
||
We discuss such interesting topics as...
|
||
|
||
*- How to train a pit bull to 'play' with your toddler.
|
||
|
||
*- Using your belt for discipline.
|
||
|
||
*- Making your own kiddie-porn!
|
||
|
||
*- How to humiliate a child with a simple trip to the barber.
|
||
|
||
*- Hiding razor blades in Halloween candy.
|
||
|
||
AND MORE!
|
||
|
||
*- Luring children into your car without arousing suspicion
|
||
|
||
*- Stealing and selling children for profit.
|
||
|
||
*- Seldom used child labour laws that could actually turn your
|
||
hobby into a golden opportunity to earn cash and make the "big
|
||
time"!
|
||
|
||
I would appreciate a response ASAP from all of the kid hating
|
||
sysops out there so that we can get this thing moving. We need to get
|
||
on the backbone so that we can share our tips and hints with all of
|
||
the other kid-o-phobes and start making this a great nation like it
|
||
was intended. People point their fingers at the liberals and demorats
|
||
and accuse them of bringing this country down, but I happen to know
|
||
that it is those damn rugrats.
|
||
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
A Stop-Gap Suggestion For The Nodelist
|
||
|
||
from Lester Garrett
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 14 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
1:125/101
|
||
|
||
I suspect this is not likely to sit well with many, but how about
|
||
this as a stop-gap measure for reducing the size of the ever-growing
|
||
NodeList until a better solution can be agreed upon.
|
||
|
||
Why not eliminate all BBS names from the Nodelist? And in order to
|
||
avoid breaking current software, replace them with a single character
|
||
place-marker in the BBS name field. While most of us are probably
|
||
quite fond of our BBS' names, is there really any _need_ for them in
|
||
the Nodelist? And nothing prevents us from keeping them in our Origin
|
||
lines and elsewhere.
|
||
|
||
Well, just a thought.
|
||
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
New Remote Access <==> UUCP utility confusion
|
||
|
||
Fredric L. Rice
|
||
The Skeptic Tank (1:102/890.0)
|
||
|
||
The Skeptic Tank has been getting quite a few messages and telephone
|
||
calls from individuals who have reviewed the new release of Remote
|
||
Access and have found a stand-alone, third-party software package
|
||
called RAUUCP which provides gatework between a UUCP host and the
|
||
Remote Access system; they think it's my software package (first
|
||
released 1992)called UUCP-RA and there is some confusion.
|
||
|
||
This short note, I hope, will help end the confusion. UUCP-RA works
|
||
on the Remote Access *.BBS message files and FidoNet *.MSG message
|
||
files. It doesn't work on JAM or any other format and it doesn't dial
|
||
the UUCP host directly. It scans Remote Access' RA/RBBS *.BBS
|
||
folder(s) for mail destined for Internet and creates *.MSG files
|
||
addressed to a UUCP<===>FidoNet gateway. It then scans the inbound
|
||
FidoNet *.MSG network mail directory for internet messages and creates
|
||
messages in a Remote Access folder.
|
||
|
||
The result of UUCP-RA is that users on Remote Access systems may send
|
||
and recieve Internet mail easilly providing a front-end like Front Door
|
||
is on top of things performing the mailing. UUCP-RA does the
|
||
translations and allows the rest of the SysOps software have their way
|
||
with the result.
|
||
|
||
The newest version of Remote Access has included in its release, it
|
||
seems, a software package which takes this idea and expands upon it
|
||
by allowing the UUCP host to be called directly -- I'm not certain
|
||
what is done as I've not reviewed the release.
|
||
|
||
What is certain is that I am unable to answer questions about the
|
||
software package which comes with the new Remote Access release. It
|
||
does not apear as though it duplicates the utility of UUCP-RA so I
|
||
will continue to provide functionality updates to UUCP-RA whenever
|
||
requested. (Indeed, I'm back in the United States and can attend
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 15 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
such things now.)
|
||
|
||
UUCP-RA.LZH is currently at version 1.8 and may be FileRequested
|
||
24 hours a day from The Skeptic Tank, 1:102/890.0. (818) 335-9601.
|
||
If you have a question about the other software package, don't ask
|
||
me, I am not responsible. <smile>
|
||
|
||
/Fredric.
|
||
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
UPLOADS
|
||
|
||
I have just uploaded some files to ftp.fidonet.org well one of his
|
||
little friends. They should be available for DL tomorrow.
|
||
File names are:
|
||
bush.art discription and history of Fidonet by Randy Bush
|
||
sabol.txt Sabol and Finster resign net postions. Anyone who
|
||
doesn't know THAT story ask.
|
||
policy3.doc circa circ oct 1986
|
||
policy4.txt policy 4.07 June 1989
|
||
fidostuff.zip a collection of text documents from TJ's files
|
||
|
||
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|
||
| mrobbins@wps.com |
|
||
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:
|
||
: It was the best of times It was the :
|
||
: worst of times :
|
||
: :
|
||
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
A Report on Guams Trials and tribulations
|
||
|
||
Contributor: Todd Cochrane 6:670/6
|
||
|
||
A Report on Guams Trials and tribulations
|
||
Guam, Fido, Internet, Guahanet
|
||
|
||
Guam were the %@&# is Guam well that is the response most of us
|
||
here have heard from time to time. Guam is approx 7500 miles SW
|
||
of Hawaii. Luckily Guam is the Hub for several TransPacific Fiber
|
||
Cables. Thus data communications are possible at normal transfer
|
||
speeds...
|
||
|
||
A group of us decided a few years ago that we wanted to bring the
|
||
world of fido to our 650 plus users. But the history of making that
|
||
possible was interesting. Our troubles started In 1991 when Guahnet
|
||
(our local network) attempted to get initial node numbers. We were
|
||
treated like ROTTEN STEP CHILDREN that had the PLAUGE no one wanted.
|
||
|
||
We first went to Hawaii and they helped us out reluctantly in
|
||
getting initial node numbers. Then about a month later the Fido
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 16 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
Power Mongers decided that Guam a US territory should not be in Zone
|
||
1. They then deleted us from the Nodelist!! We sent Netmail messages
|
||
off to Australia and Japan to see who wanted the Guam bastard children
|
||
we really felt that way. After several months we ended up in Zone 6
|
||
and have had permanent node numbers since...
|
||
|
||
Getting the final Node numbers took over a year. I bet were the only
|
||
US Territory to have a Zone 6 node number, 6:671 to be exact.
|
||
|
||
Like all networks outside the Continental US getting Echo-Mail
|
||
is a pain. 1. Calling Japan cost over $2.00 per minute 2. Calling
|
||
Australia was over $3.00 per minute. 3. Calling the Mainland is $1.00
|
||
per minute. Easy choice go with the Mainland. The second problem was
|
||
to find a system that was willing to feed us Echo Mail. Thank goodness
|
||
for old friends and the cooperative network our feed belongs to.
|
||
|
||
The cost are still hard to swallow We were running bills as high as
|
||
$1000.00 monthly on long distance We have been lucky to pull a few
|
||
dozen echos on a CRP. The majority of Guam BBS Operators are military
|
||
and do not have a high amount of disposable income. Plus military
|
||
folks move every 2-3 yrs thus we changed host for awhile like one
|
||
would change under ware.
|
||
|
||
Then the Internet came to Guam at a semi affordable price (Thank God)
|
||
Several of us Sysops have set up UUCP feeds and started sucking on
|
||
usenet and reliable E-mail like it was going out of style. Because of
|
||
the small amount of Fido Echo mail and the cost to bring it in
|
||
anything was great. Being most of us have grew up on Fido Echo Mail
|
||
we missed the clean almost always on topic Echo mail. Just imagine
|
||
yourself pulling the full backbone one week none for the next year
|
||
then only getting a few dozen echos for another year it SUCKS..
|
||
|
||
We may have come up with a solution to the lack of Fido Echo Mail
|
||
since the Internet provider recently has established a full time
|
||
57.6k line to the Mainland. We are going to pull the full load
|
||
through the Internet via a UUCP connection to the host then pump it
|
||
to the network and distribute like everyone else. It is my
|
||
understanding that Zone 2 & 6 receive there echo mail this way now
|
||
with permission from all parties involved.
|
||
|
||
Easy enough but now the quandary continues most of the Major BBS
|
||
here are once again on the move including myself. Back to the states
|
||
(jumping for joy) the land of the stable power supply and low long
|
||
distance cost. Were a Fido feed is Usually a local call away.
|
||
|
||
The users want the entire backbone the Sysops want it also. So with
|
||
luck and a little patience it will happen. So this is a small segment
|
||
of Fido in Guam I believe the Network is here to stay and will
|
||
continue to grow.
|
||
|
||
To those of you that really helped us in beginning Thank you. For
|
||
the ZC's & RC's that told us to bugger off well I would hope when
|
||
some other small territory or country get's online that you help them
|
||
instead of thumbing your noses..
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 17 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
I am a Sysop on the move. I have a added note people complain
|
||
about systems that are flagged DOWN in the nodelist well we will be
|
||
DONE for 6 weeks. If you have ever moved it is a lot easier to get a
|
||
new node number if you already have one.
|
||
|
||
Look forward to coming to the 1:2612 area and fighting the looming
|
||
echo mail delivery and associated cost there.. If you have been
|
||
following the Fido Echo's you will know what I am referring too..
|
||
|
||
===================================================================
|
||
Internet: Cochrane@hafa.guam.net | Guam USA were America's
|
||
Compuserve: 74720,3212 | Day Begins... Not Tornado
|
||
Fido: Todd Cochrane 6:670/6 | Alley Typhoon Alley.....
|
||
Hafa Adai Exchange BBS (Down to Relocat)| Hafa Adai!!!!
|
||
===================================================================
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Dearest MADam Emilia,
|
||
|
||
Q: What do you think of using net resources to "find" people who
|
||
don't want to be found?
|
||
|
||
A: Please be VERY careful. It is not nice to muck with the
|
||
privacy of any individual. Even if you are careful, have great
|
||
intentions, are a wonderful person, you might assist in developing
|
||
tools which could be used by idiots.
|
||
|
||
Q: I have read rumours that Tim Pozar is no longer IC of F I D O
|
||
N E T. Could this possibly be true?
|
||
|
||
A: To solve this issue once and for all, Tim Pozar is not now and
|
||
always will be IC.
|
||
|
||
Q: I am extremely bothered by use of the terms "seduce",
|
||
"masochism" and "bitch with a nice ass" in the last issue of
|
||
Fidonews. I am hotly upset. Say something to appease my
|
||
indignation. I do not want my children to read such obnoxious
|
||
verbiage.
|
||
|
||
A: Try reading a Fredudian analysis of Grimms Fairy Tales, and
|
||
then justify to me your attidude about censorship. Also, try
|
||
reading the dictionary. "Seduce" can mean "coax" or "tempt", as in
|
||
"seduced by the smell of coffee". Masochism can mean "the
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enjoyment of what appears to be painful or tiresome". A "bitch
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with a nice ass" can mean a female dog with a lovely donkey for a
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pet. You chose what you want to read, even while reading particualar
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text written by someone else. What do you mean by "bothered"?
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The difference between connotation and dennotation is variable
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and potentially vast.
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Q: Stop patronizing me.
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A: k. But you did ask. Would you prefer me lying??
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 18 34 Jun 1994
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Announcing Creation of ASKAPI
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by Ted Barker, co-sysop Clink Communication
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Moderated by Bob Croslin-Sysop
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This is the first opportunity I have had to reach out to
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the entire Fido network regarding a pet project of
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mine: ASKAPI.
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Essentially, I am letting all of you bbsers out there know
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of the existance of an echo that has been localized on
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Bob Croslin's fine Dallas BBS, the PIBBS or more well known
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as Private Eye's:214-475-8708.
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ASKAPI is a general interest echo for PI's and the public
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at large to discuss the Investigative bussiness.
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The host bbs is a special interest group oriented bbs
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for the Private Investigative community to exchange
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information and to relax as well.
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Other doors on the host bbs have Legal Reform issues and
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I co-sysop that area. Message bases for the Sierra Club,
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diverse games, and a private Adult area, for those who
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choose adult topics.
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But, the reason for writing today is to generate interest
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or focus attention on the need for a Private Investigative
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echo on Fido. General public questions regarding domestic
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uses of PI's, "how to" questions, and assisting adoptees or
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the "skip-outs" that make up the daily grind in the business.
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Serious needs for regional data easily accessed on Bob's bbs
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can be queried on the echo. This is not an endorsement for
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any particular PI or investigative person, rather an example
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of what may transpire on such an echo.
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How to assist? How about you sysops that have interest start
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polling the echo locally in North Texas for starters. Any
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support should lead to getting to the backbone where everyone
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in Fidoland could take part.
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You end users can ask for the support of your sysops. Get them
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to carry the feed. Get out there and learn something of what
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goes on in Private Investigating.
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Thanks for lending an ear, I certainly hope to see this take
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off.
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By the way, the PIBBS is one of the longest running BBS's in
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North Texas. Bob has been using TBBS as his window on the
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world now for nine years. He is a great sysop and patient with
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all who ask questions regarding the PI business.
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||
|
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FidoNews 11-27 Page: 19 34 Jun 1994
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Ted Barker >1:124/8023
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Name: Ted Barker - BBS located at 1:124/8023
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E-mail: tbarker@.onramp.net - PIBBS/LRRC- host for net
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Legal Reform Resource Center-Dallas - Line #1: 214-475-8708
|
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06/28/94 21:58:28 - Line #2: 214-412-0903
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
|
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|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
The SLIME Network!
|
||
The SLIME Network
|
||
Gary "Satan's Helper" Gilmore
|
||
FidoNet 1:2410/400
|
||
|
||
Please don't tell anyone about this info. Thanks!!
|
||
As featured in Jun'94 Popular Satan Digest and Aug'91 Online Sacrifice
|
||
|
||
***************************************************************
|
||
* __________ _ ___ ________ *
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* | | | |\ /| | *
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* | | | | \ / | | *
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* | | | | \ / | |______ *
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* |--------| | | | \/ | | *
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* | | | | | | *
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||
* | | | | | | *
|
||
* ________| |________ _|_ | | |_______ *
|
||
* *
|
||
* 'The "son" never sets on the SLIME network' *
|
||
***************************************************************
|
||
* (& PreRupture(sm) International Heathen Exchange) *
|
||
***************************************************************
|
||
Hubs in North Podunk, South Jersey, Deleware OH, and a small phone
|
||
booth next to the White Castle on High St. & Long, in Columbus, OH
|
||
(and growing, much like a slime mold!)
|
||
|
||
SLIME really is the Only True Heathen worldwide network on earth.
|
||
* Both "Hate-your-fellow-man" -and- non-religious conferences. *
|
||
A hole-some, humanitarian oriented network with a strict policy
|
||
for profanity, blasphemers, obscenity, and painful rectal itch.
|
||
|
||
Listen to these total lies presented like real reviews:
|
||
|
||
"I liked it, it made me itchy!" -E. Postnews
|
||
"It was better than Cats!" -Satan
|
||
"I'm dead!" -E. Presley
|
||
"You're going straight to hell! Damn you all!" -S. Autumn
|
||
|
||
Features echos on uneducational and nontechnical topics.
|
||
* Elaborate Plastic Dashboard Jesus Statuette Discussions *
|
||
* "False Profit" discussion with "fingerpointing" lessons. *
|
||
* True Whiners Exposed, With Accompaning GIFs to Prove It! *
|
||
* "Direct-to-hell" access! *
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 20 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
-={ HOLY_SATAN Echo Conference }=-
|
||
Available through the SLIME Network and
|
||
on the FidoNet Zone 1 (parts) and Zone 9 Thighbone
|
||
* The only true Satannical Conference in FidoNet *
|
||
|
||
********
|
||
Floyd 2:38 *++++++* Time 3:55pm
|
||
*+ ** +*
|
||
************+ ** +***********
|
||
*+++++++++ ++++++++*
|
||
******** HOLY_SATAN *****+*
|
||
*+++++++++ ++++++++*
|
||
************+ ** +***********
|
||
*+ ** +*
|
||
Christians: 0 *+ ** +* Lions: 22
|
||
********
|
||
|
||
HOLY_SATAN, WHOLLY_MOSES, and HOLY_COW! (C)Copyright 0 (a.d.)-1994
|
||
Amalgamated Evil, Ltd. A wholly owned subsidiary of Sin-Co. All
|
||
rights reserved in the known universe and beyond. (with contributors
|
||
being stoned to death.)
|
||
|
||
A very strict conference designed to expose flakes by requiring that
|
||
doctrines be proven with quotes from Star Trek. (HOLY_SATAN is in no
|
||
way affiliated with the CAT_TORTURE echo, the American Red Cross,
|
||
Proctor & Gamble, or any other group. Batteries not included.
|
||
Canadian residents add GST/PST, and/or just send your VISA card to
|
||
Ottawa. Offer void where offered. Allow 4-97 weeks for eternal
|
||
damnation.)
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
========================================================================
|
||
Fidonews Information
|
||
========================================================================
|
||
|
||
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
|
||
|
||
Editors: Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees
|
||
Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
||
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar
|
||
Tom Jennings
|
||
"FidoNews" BBS
|
||
FidoNet 1:1/23
|
||
BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(DS)
|
||
Internet addresses:
|
||
Don & Sylvia (submission address)
|
||
editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
||
Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
||
Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
|
||
Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com
|
||
|
||
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
||
FidoNews
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 11-27 Page: 21 34 Jun 1994
|
||
|
||
Kitchener, Ontario
|
||
Canada
|
||
N2H 2S4
|
||
|
||
Voice: (519) 570-3137
|
||
|
||
Published weekly by and for the members of the FidoNet international
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the
|
||
rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
||
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|
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: The-most-recent-issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE big enough to fit about
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
your zine.
|
||
|
||
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.fidonet.org,
|
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|
||
have questions regarding FidoNet, or UUCP<==>FidoNet gateways, please
|
||
direct them to David Deitch (1:133/411@fidonet) at
|
||
deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org.
|
||
|
||
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
|
||
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
|
||
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
|
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|
||
|
||
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission.
|
||
|
||
Asked what he thought of Western civilization, Madam Emilia sed,
|
||
"civilization is a fine dance on an uneven floor
|
||
with everyone in costume"..
|
||
Q: What would it be like if we took the masks off?
|
||
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