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F I D O N E W S -- Vol.11 No.15 (11-Apr-1994)
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| A newsletter of the | |
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| FidoNet BBS community | Published by: |
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| / \ | "FidoNews" BBS |
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| /|oo \ | +1-519-570-4176 1:1/23 |
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| _`@/_ \ _ | Editors: |
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| | | \ \\ | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Donald Tees 1:221/192 |
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| |__U__| / \// | Tim Pozar 1:125/555 |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: editors 1:1/23 |
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| Internet addresses: |
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| Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com |
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| Both Don & Sylvia (submission address) |
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| editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies and other boring but important details, |
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| please refer to the end of this file. |
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Table of Contents
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1. Editorial..................................................... 1
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2. Articles...................................................... 2
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"Dear Emily Postnews"....................................... 2
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Zone Gate? Ja!.............................................. 3
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BBS Business Directory...................................... 5
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3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 8
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Editorial
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 2 11 Apr 1994
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Little is happening here. A calm week and few articles in the
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inbound, so this is a short issue.
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I have been thinking that it has been a long time since there
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has been a Fidocon. We have printed several notices of events
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in Europe over the last year or two, but none in North America.
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Summer is coming ... has no one planned a party?
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Here is the news.
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Articles
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"Dear Emily Postnews"
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[Written specifically for USENET, but applies to echomail too. Author
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unknown. Please step forward!]
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Emily Postnews, foremost authority on proper net behaviour,
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gives her advice on how to act on the net:
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- - - - - - -
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Q: Somebody just posted that Roman Polanski directed Star Wars. What
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should I do?
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A: Post the correct answer at once! We can't have people go on
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believing that! Very good of you to spot this. You'll probably be
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the only one to make the correction, so post as soon as you can. No
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time to lose, so certainly don't wait a day, or check to see if
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somebody else has made the correction.
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And it's not good enough to send the message by mail. Since you're
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the only one who really knows that it was Francis Coppola, you have to
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inform the whole net right away!
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------
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Q: I read an article that said, "reply by mail, I'll summarize." What
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should I do?
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A: Post your response to the whole net. That request applies only to
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dumb people who don't have something interesting to say. Your
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postings are much more worthwhile than other people's, so it would be
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a waste to reply by mail.
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Q: I collected replies to an article I wrote, and now it's time to
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summarize. What should I do?
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A: Simply concatenate all the articles together into a big file and
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post that. On USENET, this is known as a summary. It lets people
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read all the replies without annoying newsreaders getting in the way.
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Do the same when summarizing a vote.
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------
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Q: I saw a long article that I wish to rebut carefully, what should I
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do?
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 3 11 Apr 1994
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A: Include the entire text with your article, particularly the
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signature, and include your comments closely packed between the lines.
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Be sure to post, and not mail, even though your article looks like a
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reply to the original. Everybody *loves* to read those long
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point-by-point debates, especially when they evolve into name-calling
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and lots of "Is too!" -- "Is not!" -- "Is too, twizot!" exchanges.
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Be sure to follow-up everything, and never let another person get in
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the last word on a net debate. Why, if people let other people have
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the last word, then discussions would actually stop! Remember, other
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net readers aren't nearly as clever as you, and if somebody posts
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something wrong, the readers can't possibly realize that on their own
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without your elucidations. If somebody gets insulting in their net
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postings, the best response is to get right down to their level and
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fire a return salvo. When I read one net person make an insulting
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attack on another, I always immediately take it as gospel unless a
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rebuttal is posted. It never makes me think less of the insulter, so
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it's your duty to respond.
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Zone Gate? Ja!
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From: Federico Joselevich (4:900/109)
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Hey! This is just for the Guiness Records!
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= NETMail Area (4:900/109) ============================================
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Msg : 273 of 280 Rcv Pvt
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From : Monica Lis 1:17/57 Tue 03 Nov 92 23:05
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To : Federico Joselevich 4:900/109 Thu 31 Mar 94 02:00
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.INTL 4:900/109 1:17/57
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[message body]
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[look at this date:]
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--->>> .Via 1:105/6, 10:04:58 UTC, November 4, 1992 - Rts v1.56 <<<---
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.Via Node 1:105/6, Wed Nov 04 01:05:18 (QM v1.02a)
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.Via 1:105/42, 11:48:44 UTC, November 4, 1992 - Rts v1.57
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.Via QM 1:105/42, Wed Nov 04 02:49 (v1.30/b29)
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[and now look at *this* date:]
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--->>>>> .Via FMail 4:808/3, Sat 26 Mar 1994 9:24 <<<<<---
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In people words: Somebody sent me a message one year and a half ago,
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in November 4th, 1992. That message went out of Randy Bush system last
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March 26th.
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This is only an example of many others messages I've receive last
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week, including one from Bob Moravsik (1:2606/583) saying this:
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>> Dearest RC's:
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 4 11 Apr 1994
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>>
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>> I was asked by the policy 4.1c committee to follow up with each of
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>> you to ask your support to allow Fidonet to vote on this policy draft.
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>> A copy was sent to the ZC's for distribution in each region. If you
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>> will notify the IC Matt Whelan that you wish to have a vote on the
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>> document and send a copy of this message to me our many hours of labor
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>> to better Fidonet will be served. Best regards Bob Moravsik
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At the time this message was post I was RC of 4:90/0 and I would
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answer 'yes' to it. But I couldn't. Why? Becouse Mr. Randy Bush didn't
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want to route messages to Zone 4.
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Kids, what's going on? Isn't anybody going to do *anything* about
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this?
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To finish this message and make it as smaller as posible take a look
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to this:
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> 2.1.7 Not Routing Mail
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> You are not required to route traffic if you have not agreed to do so.
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> You are not obligated to route traffic for all if you route it for any,
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> unless you hold a Network Coordinator or Hub Coordinator position.
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> Routing traffic through a node not obligated to perform routing without
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> the permission of that node may be annoying behavior. This includes
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> unsolicited echomail.
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[---------------------------]
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> If you do not forward a message when you previously agreed to perform
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> such routing, the message must be returned to the sysop of the node at
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> which it entered FidoNet with an explanation of why it was not forwarded.
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> (It is not necessary to return messages which are addressed to a node
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> which is not in the current nodelist.) Intentionally stopping an
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> in-transit message without following this procedure constitutes annoying
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> behavior.
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[---------------------------]
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> In the case of a failure to forward traffic due to a technical problem,
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> it does not become annoying unless it persists after being pointed out
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> to the sysop.
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Hoping a *real* international Network,
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Federico Joselevich
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fjoselevich@appeal.edu.ar
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Federico Joselevich
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federico@appeal.edu.ar
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 5 11 Apr 1994
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BBS Business Directory
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WishNet International (C) 1991, 1994 - All Rights Reserved
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---------------------------------------------------
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We are in the process of compiling a publication for those
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involved with doing Business -vs- their modem. If you fall
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within this category and would like "exposure" for yourself,
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please use the below composite form to add your information.
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Once you have completely filled all categories, please send
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it back to me, using of the appropriate numbers listed at
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the end of this documentation.
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Thank you!
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------------- < Cut Here > ------------------------
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BBS BUSINESS DIRECTORY
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Network Participant Profile -- 03/01/94 [Part 1]
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====================================================
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Name
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Title
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Company
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Address
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Phone Numbers ( )________ ( )________
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Fax Number ( )________
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Type of Industry
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Year Established
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No. of Employees
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Products Sold
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Services Provided
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Overview
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Interests/Area Served
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InterNet Address
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=============================================================
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Home Based [ ] Corporation [ ] Franchise [ ]
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Office Based [ ] Partnership [ ] Products [ ]
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Full Time [ ] Proprietorship [ ] Services [ ]
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Part Time [ ] Entrepreneur [ ] Resale [ ]
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MLM [ ]
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--------------------------------------------------------------
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Please include a valid NODE NUMBER to be attached to this BBS
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Listing, so we may be aware of where to contact you via modem!
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--------------------------------------------------------------
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BBS/Modem Business Survey [Part 2] - April 04, 1994
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==========================================================
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All rights reserved, WishNet International, Rozey Strohl
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What publications do you read?
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 6 11 Apr 1994
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[ ] City Newspaper
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[ ] Community Newspaper
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[ ] Industry Newspaper
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[ ] Trade Magazines
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[ ] Consumer Magazines
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[ ] Newsletters
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What shows do you or your employees attend?
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[ ] National conventions
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[ ] Local trade shows
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[ ] Community Events
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What groups do you belong to?
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[ ] Business and professional groups
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[ ] Community groups?
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What do you respond to?
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[ ] Phone calls
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[ ] Letters
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[ ] On-site visits
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[ ] Postcards
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How do you originally hear about your associates?
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[ ] Mass media marketing
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[ ] Mini media marketing
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[ ] Word of mouth
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Why do you continue to buy from other services?
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[ ] Service
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[ ] Quality
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[ ] Rapport
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What problems have you encountered with previous services?
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1.
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2.
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3.
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Has your company ever needed the services of a Computer
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Training School? (ie, Program Learning) [Yes/No]
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If yes, what is the maximum price you have paid per class?
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[ ] $100-149 [ ] $150-199 [ ] $200-299 [ ] $300 and up
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Does your company produce its own newsletter? [Yes/No]
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(If yes, how often does it get distributed? )
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[ ] Once a month [ ] Bi-Monthly [ ] Quarterly [ ] Other
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If other, please specify______________________________
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What is the name of your newsletter?___________________
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Do you do your own accounting/bookkeeping? [Yes/No]
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If yes, what software do you utilize? ____________
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___________________________________________________
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If no, what accounting services do you utilize?
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 7 11 Apr 1994
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___________________________________________________
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Yearly Cost of accounting service? $_______________
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Do you use an in-house bookkeeper? [Yes/No]
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If yes, what is the yearly cost of the employee?
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$_____________ per year
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If no, would you consider a competent bookkeeping service
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for a fair market price? [Yes/No]
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What products are currently utilized by your company?
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[ ] MS Word
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[ ] MS Excel
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[ ] MS Publisher
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[ ] MS Access
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[ ] MS Windows
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[ ] WinFax
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[ ] Aldus Pagemaker
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[ ] Lotus 123
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[ ] Novell/LANtastic
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[ ] CA Simply Money
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[ ] DAC Easy Accounting
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[ ] Peachtree Accounting
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[ ] Graphics Workshop
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[ ] Harvard Graphics
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[ ] Power Point
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[ ] DBase IV
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[ ] FoxPro
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[ ] Quattro Pro
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What yearly sales category is your company?
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[ ] $ 5,000 - $ 9,000
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[ ] $10,000 - $19,000
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[ ] $20,000 - $39,000
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[ ] $40,000 - $59,000
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[ ] $60,000 and over
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Is your company tax-exempt? [Yes/No]
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Does your company work a FISCAL or CALENDAR year for its
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Financial Statements? [Fiscal/Calendar]
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-------------------- < Cut Here > --------------------------
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Thank you for taking the time to answer this survey.
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Rozey Strohl
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WishNet International
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P.O. Box 3722
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Centerline, Michigan 48015
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Data 1 (810) 759-2128 Data 2 (810) 759-4910
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[14400K, V32BIS] [14400K, HST]
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InterNet E-mail: rozey_strohl@bizynet.com
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 8 11 Apr 1994
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FidoNet Netmail: 1:120/605, 1:120/606
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ITCNet Netmail : 85:871/302
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BizyNet Address: 70:1/82
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SynNet Address : 151:400/0, 151:1810/10
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WishNet Address: 19:19/0, 19:19/1
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International Business Welcome!
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Fidonews Information
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
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Editors: Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees
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Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar
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Tom Jennings
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"FidoNews" BBS
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FidoNet 1:1/23
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BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(DS)
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Internet addresses:
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Don & Sylvia (submission address)
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editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
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Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
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Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
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Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com
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(Postal Service mailing address)
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FidoNews
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128 Church St.
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Kitchener, Ontario
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Canada
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N2H 2S4
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Published weekly by and for the members of the FidoNet international
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amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual
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articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The
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contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the
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rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those
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of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews.
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Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
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Copyright 1994 Sylvia Maxwell. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or
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distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in
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other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or FidoNews
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(we're easy).
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OBTAINING COPIES: The-most-recent-issue-ONLY of FidoNews in electronic
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form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or
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Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
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PRINTED COPIES may be obtained from Fido Software for $10.00US each
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FidoNews 11-15 Page: 9 11 Apr 1994
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PostPaid First Class within North America, or $13.00US elsewhere,
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mailed Air Mail. (US funds drawn upon a US bank only.)
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INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.fidonet.org,
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in directory ~ftp/pub/fidonet/fidonews. If you would like a FAQ, or
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have questions regarding FidoNet, or UUCP<==>FidoNet gateways, please
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direct them to David Deitch (1:133/411@fidonet) at
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deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
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from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission.
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Asked what he thought of Western civilization,
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M.K. Gandhi said, "I think it would be an excellent idea".
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-- END
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