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F I D O N E W S -- | Vol. 9 No. 4 (27 January 1992)
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The newsletter of the |
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FidoNet BBS community | Published by:
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/ \ | "FidoNews" BBS
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/|oo \ | (415)-863-2739
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(_| /_) | FidoNet 1:1/1
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_`@/_ \ _ | Internet:
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| | \ \\ | fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org
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| (*) | \ )) |
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|__U__| / \// | Editors:
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_//|| _\ / | Tom Jennings
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(_/(_|(____/ | Tim Pozar
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(jm) |
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Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international
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amateur network. Copyright 1991, Fido Software. All rights reserved.
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Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes
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only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews.
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Paper price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5.00US
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Electronic Price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . free!
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For more information about FidoNews refer to the end of this file.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ..................................................... 1
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Editorial: Less is more ....................................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ...................................................... 2
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How do I set up a fun, fun, fidonode? ......................... 2
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News of the ANEWS Echo ........................................ 3
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OLVIEW - An Online GIF Viewer Door For Any BBS ................ 5
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SEAmail version 1.10 available electronically ................. 6
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Release of ARCMAIL V.3.00 ..................................... 9
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KY Genealogy .................................................. 10
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Sigh, another untitled article ................................ 12
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3. LATEST VERSIONS ............................................... 16
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Software List ................................................. 16
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4. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .......................................... 22
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 1 27 Jan 1992
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EDITORIAL
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Editorial: Less is more
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by Tom Jennings (1:1/1)
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I think I have used this title before. Nothing else to say here. So I
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will avoid temptation. Enjoy.
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 2 27 Jan 1992
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ARTICLES
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Charlie Baden, 1:207/117.1, P.O. Box 17340, Anaheim CA 92817-7340
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I have been moderating an echo (RAILFANS) for over a year now, and have
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seen it work its way onto the backbone. The actual execution went
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quickly, the big delay was finding all the docs to do it. And, since I
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plan to open up a BBS in a month or two, I want to make sure that this
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time I've got all the docs I need. (We just bought a house and I have
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to finish getting my "playroom" unpacked and straightened out before
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I'll let myself set up a computer. Once the computer's plugged in, all
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housekeeping in the room goes down the tubes...)
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So, I've been accumulating a list of various files that "every sysop
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should know about" so that when I become a full-fledged public bbs sysop
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(instead of just being a pointop), I'll have all the rules and
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procedures and info at my fingertips. I'd like you all to look over my
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list, and after you've chuckled at my ignorance (go ahead, chuckle,
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you're allowed) let me know which vitally important files I've left
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out.
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I'm trying to get a list of the NAMES (both magic and otherwise) of
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various Fidonet documentation files; in particular, those files that a
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moderator or a new sysop should be familiar with. Is there such a list
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already available? If not, can anyone add anything to the list I've
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compiled so far? So far I'm just trying to identify the file names. If
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you have anything to add, *don't* send me the file, just the name and a
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brief description of what it is. I'll be freqing them later, after I
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know what I'm looking for."
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And I definitely want CORRECTIONS to this list - don't be shy!
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BACKBONE The latest AREAS.BBS file for the Zone 1 Backbone.
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BOP Backbone operating policy. (BOP_103.ARC, BOP_103.TXT)
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ECHODAT * Raw, CSV-format data files for the current EchoList.
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ELDAT???.LZH
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ECHOLIST * The EchoList reports. ELIST???.LZH
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ECHOMOD Moderator update submission instructions. ELMOD???.LZH.
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ELMOD691.LZH, ELMODUPD.TXT, ELSAMPLE.MSG
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ECHOPOL The latest draft Zone 1 EchoMail Backbone policy.
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ECHORULE * Conference Rules File repository. ELRUL???.LZH
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FIDONET.NA * Backbone echo list
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FIDOSTAT.NA * It is the list of the current status of requested
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echos.
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Fidostat is updated every few days or so, while
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Fidonet.Na
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is only updated when there is a change.
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FNEWS???.LZH * Fidonews. Includes VERSIONS (see below). Fidonews is
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 3 27 Jan 1992
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broadcast via the NEWSCHAT echo as well.
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GATEWAY1 Gateway procedures to/from Fidonet
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NETSALL.ART A listing of domains and zones for various networks.
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NODELIST.??? * Fidonet nodelist
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POLICY4.NET Overall Fido policy document
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VERSIONS * Comprehensive Version List, for useful software.
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VLIST???.LZH
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Important (?) echos for sysops & moderators:
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ECHO_REQ (open on a read-only basis to all, write-access sysops only)
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ZEC (sysops only, a "guaranteed" link to the Zone Echomail
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Coordinator)
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MODERATOR (for moderators)
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NEWSCHAT (open to all; Fidonews is sent in message format on this
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echo)
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* Updated regularly, available through established channels (such as
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1/201, Backbone, or SDS). Issued weekly, monthly, or "as-needed." The
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Jan'92 edition is probably (or definitely) going to be different from
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the Dec'92 edition. Files not flagged with an asterisk are also
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subject to change, but are believed more stable (and changes are
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subject to approval). Mostly policy documents.
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I hope that somebody already thought of this a long time ago, and
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there's already a list like this... but if not, let's put it together!
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The assistance of Tony Davis, Paul Knupke Jr., Robert Williamson, Greg
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Edwards, and others whose names I've misplaced, is gratefully
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acknowledged.
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/s/ Charlie Baden; moderator of RAILFANS, potential BBS sysop (early
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'92). I can be reached through Fidonet at 1:207/117.1; by VOICE at
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(714) 771-2141, which is my 24-hr Voice Mail number; or by u.s.mail at
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P.O. Box 17340, Anaheim CA 92817-7340.
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News of the ANEWS Echo
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By Randy Edwards, 1:128/105.0
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A couple of years ago I got sick of hearing about the fact
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that the USA Today newsrag had decided to go online and to
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charge Sysops for the fluffy tripe they call news, and I
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wondered what I could do to bring some different perspectives
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of news to people.
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After some thought and talking with some people I decided to
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start the ANEWS -- an acronym for Alternative News -- echo.
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 4 27 Jan 1992
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The echo started out small, with just some random postings
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from various alternative newspapers around the country. Over
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time though, it's grown and changed. There were some periods
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when ANEWS carried 80 or more news stories per day, but it's
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calmed down now to a more reasonable 10-20 for the last few
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months.
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ANEWS isn't for everyone.
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Given the fact that our corporate mass media leans to the
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political right, ANEWS, being an alternative news echo, leans to
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the political left. ANEWS also doesn't follow the corporate
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media's definition of the politlcal spectrum, you know,
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"left = liberal" and "right = conservative." ANEWS recognizes
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the political spectrum as quite a bit further to the right and
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left, respectively.
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To be an ANEWS reader you should be willing to have some
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preconceptions challenged, and to have an open mind.
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Looking over some of the news stories we've had run in ANEWS
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over the last week or so and one will find an interesting
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hodge-podge of stories and views. For example:
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- An editorial piece from the Cuban daily newspaper Granma
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telling the Cuban side of the story of anti-Cuban terrorists
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landing and being captured in Cuba.
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- A legislative update from the Friends (Quaker Church)
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Committee on National Legislative.
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- News articles describing GM's attempt to pit GM workers at
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one factory against another by threatening to close one of two
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factories and then waiting to see which group of workers will
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take the biggest pay and benefit cuts.
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- The story of three Mennonite Church workers arrested in
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Haiti.
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- Human rights reports on terror by the goverment of Guatemala.
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- Stories of violence in Russia as people burn the houses and
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cars of the newly rich class in protest.
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- Reports of the US economy with angles -- such as the plight
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of the homeless and poor, unemployed workers resulting from
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factories closing in order to move out of the US -- that are
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routinely ignored by the US corporate mass media.
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And the list goes on and on with more stories being posted
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every day. Some stories will shock you, some will surprise you,
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some will anger you -- guaranteed!
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 5 27 Jan 1992
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The ANEWS echo is available on the Zone 1 FidoNet backbone
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and this news -- unlike the pay system that USA Today uses --
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is FREELY available to anyone willing to link into ANEWS.
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Hope to see you all in ANEWS soon!
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.
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Randy
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Sysop 1:128/105.0
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ANEWS Moderator
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P.S. If anyone is receiving ANEWS in Zones 2 or 3 (or any other
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zone besides zone 1) please let me know. Thanks.
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by Dennis Dodd
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SysOp, The Graphics WorkShop BBS, 1:123/57 (Memphis TN)
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Oh no <groan!>, just what the world needs. Another door...
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I would like to announce the availability of OLVIEW - An online GIF
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viewer door that runs on (almost) any BBS. If you have a lot of GIF
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traffic on your board this door might be of interest to you.
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I run a medium size graphics oriented BBS. After having countless
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callers request a way to view GIFs while online with my board, I decided
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to research the possibility of writing a door that would allow a caller
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to preview several GIFs at once while online. The minimum requirements
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were: 1) Ease of installation and use on the caller's part. 2) Must be
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easy to install, run on (most) BBS software, and be reliable from the
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sysop's point of view. 3) Provide the ability to preview several GIFs
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in under 5 minutes at 2400 baud (regardless of GIF file size).
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With the release of version 4 of Jay Wherley's GIFDESK, this finally
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became possible. OLVIEW uses GIFDESK to create a small GIF file which
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can be viewed while downloading (with Bill Parquet's SHOWGIF shareware).
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The downsized GIF should take no more than 3-4 minutes to download (at
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2400 baud) and will give the receiver a fairly good idea of what the
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full fledged GIF file will look like.
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Using OLVIEW, it is possible to "preview" several megabytes of GIF files
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in only a few minutes; thereby, saving most of the callers limited
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online time for downloading only the GIFs of interest.
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OLVIEW will allow the user to choose up to four GIF files at once to be
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used to make up one downsized (and downloadable) custom GIF file. This
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downsized file may be viewed offline after transfer using a regular GIF
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viewer or viewed during the download with SHOWGIF. In other words, its
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a
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full-blown 640x480x256 resolution GIF file that has the image of up to
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four other GIFs in it. The OLVIEW door has become a very popular
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feature
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on my board, saving my callers countless hours spent downloading
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unwanted
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 6 27 Jan 1992
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GIFs.
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OLVIEW will give the caller a choice of two formats for the created
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downsized GIF. Small (1.5" x 1.5", approx. size on screen) or medium
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(2.5" x 2.5"). The actual screen size of each GIF will vary depending
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upon the resolution of the source GIF file(s). OLVIEW will use X, Y,
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or Zmodem (DSZ) to transfer the preview GIF with.
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The type of BBS software you run is purely a matter of personal
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preference. I purposely wrote OLVIEW to run under DOORWAY so that it
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may be installed and run on any BBS type supported by DOORWAY (as most
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popular BBS's are).
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OLVIEW is freeware and available by FREQing 'OLV100.ZIP' from:
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OLV100.ZIP (198k)
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1:123/31 - USR HST
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1:123/57 - USR dual standard
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Thank you for your time, and happy BBSing!
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System Enhancement Associates, Inc.
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520/519@AlterNet, 1:107/519@FidoNet
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SEAmail version 1.10
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SEAmail version 1.10 is now available. Anyone wishing a disk update
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should contact System Enhancement Associates, Inc. However, anyone
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with SEAmail version 1.02 can upgrade their system FREE OF CHARGE,
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electronically.
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Simply change to your SEAmail directory and give the command:
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upgrade 102to110
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and your system will upgrade itself to version 1.10. Anyone with
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version 1.02 of SEAmail for OS/2 should instead give the command:
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upgrade sm110p
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SEAmail version 1.10 incorporates the following changes:
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* The "yes/no" dialog boxes in CFGEDIT and MAIL no longer pause when
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you select the default answer by pressing "Enter".
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 7 27 Jan 1992
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* The network server was leaving DTR low when Caller*ID is used,
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which prevented most modems from answering the phone. This should
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now be fixed.
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* Under certain curcumstances, the standard session handler could be
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fooled into thinking that it needed to process an REQ file on an
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inbound call when it really didn't. This should now be fixed.
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* A bug was detected in echomail support that could cause messages
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to be placed in the wrong folders. This should now be fixed.
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Also, echomail support in general has been greatly enhanced, and
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includes a new echomail folder type in MAIL (complete with an
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echomail link editor).
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* Return receipts and audit trail receipts were being generated with
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no text. This should now be fixed.
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* Scroll boxes should now "wrap" properly. That is, going up from
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the top should now take you to the bottom, and vice versa.
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* A bug was detected that caused dialog boxes with shadow text to
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work improperly when the shadow text completely filled the input
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area. This should now be fixed in all cases.
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* Hitting "tab" to resolve a filename template did not work if there
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was more than one filename template in the input box, or if the
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filename template had a leading exclamation mark. This should now
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be fixed.
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* Automatic rerouting to local destinations was not working
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properly. This should now be fixed.
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* It is now possible to delete a message while it is packed for
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transmission. Go into the packet editor (run TWEAKPKT, or hit
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Alt-P while SEAmail is running), select a packet containing the
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message and press Enter to view the packet. Now highlight the
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message to delete and hit the DEL key.
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* DIAL now gives a notice at startup telling the user that the INS,
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DEL, and END keys can be used to alter the dialing list.
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* Null modem connections should now start up easier. We are
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allowing five seconds for the system on the other end to respond.
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* Systems that have a null modem as their primary modem no longer
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need to give a destination system for GET, SEND, or POLL.
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* The DIAL terminal program can now be told to mask parity. This
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can be useful when calling commercial services such as CompuServe
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and BIX.
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 8 27 Jan 1992
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* The DIAL program now has the ability to dump the clipboard to a
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file. This allows you to save the filenames and comments to help
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remember what you downloaded. The clipboard must be dumped BEFORE
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you end a terminal session.
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* The DIAL program was not always "hanging up" at the end of a null
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modem session, hich would leave the other end of the null modem
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cable thinking that it was still connected. This is now fixed.
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* The GET and SEND commands would not work for addresses with
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unpublished phone numbers, even when the /X (ignore errors) option
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was given. This has now been fixed.
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* MAIL was disregarding editing of the "To:" field during original
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message entry. This has now been fixed.
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* Under special circumstances unlikely to happen anywhere but here,
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SECURE1 would undo autorouting of received secured messages. This
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should now be fixed.
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* SECURE1 was securing null messages under certain circumstances,
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resulting in real messages being sent where virtual messages were
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intended. This should now be fixed.
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* Under certain circumstances where ambiguous pong data was
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received, GroupMail ping reports would omit some participating
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systems. This has now been fixed.
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* Sound support has been added for the Sound Blaster card (MS-DOS
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version only). If your SOUND.CFG file contains a BLASTER command,
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then SEAmail will attempt to use the Sound Blaster speaker for
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playing sounds.
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* The RENUMBER program can now be used to renumber messages in a
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specified message folder.
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* NLCOMP no longer deletes node list difference files. If you are
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using EDITNL by Ben Baker to apply difference files, you should be
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sure to use the /C (cleanup) option.
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* CFGEDIT now has an explicit installation prompt for use on local
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area networks.
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* The session handlers would log loss of carrier as an error under
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circumstances where it does not really constitute an error
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condition. This has not been fixed.
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* A new program, STATUS.EXE, has been added to give a continuously
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updated report of what the various lines of a multiline system are
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doing.
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FidoNews 9-04 Page 9 27 Jan 1992
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* Some people have asked for some way to log the contents of the
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packet database as of a given time. We have added a new program,
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PACKETS.EXE, to do this. Its output may be displayed on the local
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console or redirected to a file.
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* Some programs exhibited truly awful performance on OS/2 machines
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that do not have a mouse installed. This has now been fixed.
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* MAIL was using a color combination on the "carbon copies" dialog
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box that was unreadable on many machines. This has now been
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fixed.
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NOTE: There is an error in the UPGRADE.BAT (or UPGRADE.CMD) supplied
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on SEAmail version 1.02 disks. If you have not done so already, then
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you should type the command:
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get UPGRADE.ARC from SEA now
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and unpack the latest version of the upgrade process before you
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attempt to apply the version 1.10 upgrade.
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Also, if you have a USR HST modem, then you may want to edit the entry
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for SEA in your phone book before you apply the upgrade. The number
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to use for USR HST modems is (201) 473-2853.
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by Chris Anderson
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Release of Version 3.00 of ARCMAIL
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A new version of ARCMAIL is now available for distribution. This
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version is a replacement for ARCMAIL versions 0.60 thru 2.07. Left
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to its own devices, it will function precisely as has the previous
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version (2.07), upon whose code it was based. My thanks to Thom
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Henderson for making the code available for this update.
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New functionality has been added to version 3.0 that may be of
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interest to current users, especially converts to SEAmail and those
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who are required to deal with multiple file archive types. A
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configuration file may be used to extend the abilities of ARCMAIL
|
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in the following manner:
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|
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1) Handles file attach messages properly for any of the SEA
|
||
mailer packages. This includes the older versions (4.1)
|
||
that require an attach message, newer versions (4.5+) that
|
||
require no attach message, and SEAmail, which requires an
|
||
attach message with the filename preceded by a "!" in the
|
||
subject line in order to delete the file after transmission.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 10 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
2) Allows the selection of either Base36 or "Version 0" extensions
|
||
on a node-by-node basis. This means that you can handle both
|
||
types on a single ARCMAIL TO pass.
|
||
|
||
3) Allows the selection of numerous archive formats for both
|
||
inbound (ARCMAIL FROM) and outbound (ARCMAIL TO) archives,
|
||
selectable on a node-by-node basis. All archive types can
|
||
be created or extracted as necessary on a single ARCMAIL TO
|
||
or ARCMAIL FROM pass.
|
||
|
||
This option is especially important for SEAmail users who are
|
||
otherwise confined to the internal call to ARC that is generated
|
||
by the ARCMAIL verb in ROUTE.CFG.
|
||
|
||
4) Both file extension and archiver type defaults can be modified.
|
||
|
||
Parameters may be used as found in the CONFIG.DOG file, and may be
|
||
supplimented by those found in the ARCMAIL.CFG file. Any parameter
|
||
found in the ARCMAIL.CFG file will override that found on a command
|
||
line or in the CONFIG.DOG file.
|
||
|
||
Documentation is provided with the package which may be file requested
|
||
via either Bark or *.REQ format to 1:104/114@FidoNet as ARCMAIL3.ARC.
|
||
The files are archived in ARC version 6 format. This package will
|
||
also be distributed by SDS on or shortly after 2/1/92.
|
||
|
||
Questions and suggestions regarding the package should either be
|
||
addressed to 1:104/114 via NetMail, or can be addressed in the
|
||
ARCMAIL support area set up for the purpose on the BBS. The number
|
||
for the BBS is (303)652-3595, 24hrs, HST/V.32.
|
||
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
GENEALOGY and TECHNOLOGY
|
||
by Charles E. Darnell
|
||
|
||
Well, do they really mix? Yes! With the help of your
|
||
computer.
|
||
Kentucky will celebrate its 200 year birthday in 1992 and many of
|
||
our
|
||
counties have things planned with their historical or genealogical
|
||
societies. While many of our citizens have been doing genealogy
|
||
research for many years few have used the computer to help with the
|
||
research, record keeping or letter writing that's involved. Our
|
||
younger generations have the knowledge for using the computer; but,
|
||
little interest in genealogy. Seems we need to mix the two together
|
||
in
|
||
order to preserve the next 200 years of our history.
|
||
|
||
There is help here in Louisville. The "Livewire" Bulletin
|
||
Board
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 11 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
Service (BBS) offers the FIDO network genealogy ECHO to everyone who
|
||
would like to log on and use this service. While you do need a
|
||
computer and a modem most everything else can be obtained from the
|
||
BBS.
|
||
Ask a friend to download the shareware program "TELIX" and you have
|
||
an
|
||
excellent communications package that even includes the fast ZMODEM
|
||
protocol. Next, call the Livewire BBS at (502)933-4725 and follow
|
||
the
|
||
instructions. Select the Special Interest Group (SIG) area and view
|
||
the three different forums available. There's a local area for
|
||
queries
|
||
here in Louisville; The FIDO network for connections around the
|
||
globe;
|
||
and finally, the Who's Got What (WGW) area. Try logging on the BBS
|
||
a
|
||
couple of times and if that doesn't work call me at (502)499-6848
|
||
for
|
||
help. I'm the genealogy SIG monitor and will try to help any way I
|
||
can. This service is free and we're trying to build the interest in
|
||
genealogy and the FIDO ECHO capability here in Louisville. Our
|
||
files
|
||
are few, at the moment, but give us a chance and watch us grow.
|
||
Remember Livewire BBS at (502)933-4725; SYSOP: Allen Prunty. This
|
||
is
|
||
a free BBS service.
|
||
|
||
------
|
||
|
||
Note from Allen Prunty, SysOp of the LiveWire BBS.
|
||
|
||
The LiveWire has a healthy selection of Genealogy files... Feel free to
|
||
FREQ FILES from 2320/110 to see what I have, the system will accept 9600
|
||
baud calls from any v.32 or HST modem. You can also FREQ any given file
|
||
from the LiveWire BBS.
|
||
|
||
You can also access Genealogy message bases from both FidoNet and the GT
|
||
Network. We have XRS and QWK compatible doors. Long distance users
|
||
will be validated within 24 hours.
|
||
|
||
Services added recently is TMS - Tafel Matching Service which helps you
|
||
to locate other users with information you may need. You can also
|
||
upload your GEDCOM submissions which will be sent to the LDS church.
|
||
|
||
You may also want to FREQ GBBSLIST from me for a listing of other
|
||
Genealogy BBS's. There may be one near you.
|
||
|
||
-----------
|
||
|
||
Tom Feel free to edit this any way you want... you -must- have better
|
||
skills at editing than I do or you wouldn't be doing this.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 12 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
/* Tomj here --
|
||
|
||
It's actually not bad to begin with, and I haven't touched it. YOu might
|
||
notice however that the margins are AFU and should be < 72 columns as
|
||
per ARTSPEC.DOC ...
|
||
|
||
As to why I am doing this, there is no rational reason I can think of.
|
||
The human body doesn't seem to remember pain very well. */
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
|
||
/* Normally I wouldn't run an anonymous article submission without
|
||
the author providing me with their name etc (which I will keep
|
||
confident if they so request) but this one is safe enough.
|
||
|
||
-- tomj
|
||
*/
|
||
|
||
It's time for the leadership of FidoNet (that means, if you hold a title
|
||
in FidoNet other than "sysop", this is for you) to hear a little bit
|
||
from someone on the short end of their political games. Normally I
|
||
would sign my article, but in this instance I choose not to because I
|
||
would like to protect third parties mentioned by office. If you knew
|
||
my address you could track them down. It is not my purpose to embarass,
|
||
but it is my purpose to wake up some sleepers toward the top of the
|
||
nodelist. Not that my effort will have any effect or anything...
|
||
|
||
o It seems to me that there is a tremendous inertia against change in
|
||
FidoNet. Any time anyone proposes a change they must implement the
|
||
entire thing from start to finish, and at most they may get "No, you
|
||
should do it this way" for their efforts.
|
||
|
||
A prime example is Aaron Goldblatt's nodelist proposal. He's been
|
||
plugging away at this thing for a few months now, and has now
|
||
released the third revision of his standard. He sees a problem in
|
||
FidoNet and is attempting to do something about it.
|
||
|
||
What has he gotten for his efforts? Some encouragement from the
|
||
lowly folks without political power, but mostly a lot of poo-pooing
|
||
from the higher-ups (if they deigned to comment at all). Recently
|
||
a number of articles have appeared in FidoNews saying that the
|
||
nodelist is too big (hey, 277 was 1,087,926 bytes, or 1062k long!),
|
||
and most have suggested general changes (eliminating Pvts, binary
|
||
formats, etc.), but nothing specific.
|
||
|
||
But Aaron, together with Will Schlichtman, have not only suggested
|
||
general changes, but they have created an FTSC-type spec document
|
||
and released it to anybody who wants to FREQ it at 1200+ bps. When
|
||
asked for numerical analysis, Aaron provided it thanks to Will's
|
||
conversion program. And he carried out this analysis on his
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 13 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
painfully slow 4.77 mHz V20 Zenith Z150 and 66 megabytes of hard
|
||
drive space.
|
||
|
||
He's the only person I've seen develop an entire nodelist spec
|
||
document and release it three times, get a conversion program
|
||
created, and do reasonably rigorus statistical analysis of the
|
||
savings the format provides.
|
||
|
||
Those of you who want a binary format - how about doing the same?
|
||
|
||
If FidoNet is to improve over what we have now, instead of simply
|
||
jumping on the bandwagon trashing someone else's idea, create one of
|
||
your own. Write specs for it. That way, instead of a few people
|
||
doing all the work, everyone contributes and the whole thing comes out
|
||
better. Aaron commented on it in FidoNews 806 - information and idea
|
||
exchange is the purpose of FidoNet.
|
||
|
||
o There is an increasing attitude of NoSlow in FidoNet. Sysops,
|
||
pointops, and users who have modems which run slower than 9600 are
|
||
increasingly subjected to criticism by their peers and others because
|
||
of the slower speed of their hardware. Examples:
|
||
|
||
A net in Zone 1 recently had a discussion about limiting echomail
|
||
distribution based on modem speed - the slower your modem, the less
|
||
mail you could get. The idea eventually died, but there was some
|
||
very bitter debate about it. On one side you saw the 1200 and 2400
|
||
bps people, and on the other you had the HSTs, DSs, V.32s, PEPs,
|
||
H96s, and CSPs.
|
||
|
||
Many nets have a hub-based mail distribution scheme. But those who
|
||
want to become a hub must have a 9600 bps modem and run CM. I can
|
||
understand the CM requirement, but what's wrong with a 2400 bps hub
|
||
feeding other 2400 systems? Yes, SOMEWHERE there will have to be a
|
||
2400 <==> 9600 link, but since most nets bring mail in from long
|
||
distance at 9600, that could be at the local level where costs are
|
||
smallest.
|
||
|
||
One pointop I talked to felt that he was constantly belittled
|
||
because of his lack of fast hardware, a situation he has been
|
||
working to try and correct but lacks funds to do so. His bossnode
|
||
went to 2400+ only for human callers, so he could file request and
|
||
get mail from his boss, but not log in as a human caller.
|
||
|
||
Guys, an HST hooked to a 386/33 or Mac IIfx is kind of like raising
|
||
big horses. Tain't cheap. It seems like those who favor rules
|
||
like echomail restrictions are the ones who would be least affected by
|
||
them. We don't all have a modem that can do 100k in less than 60
|
||
seconds, nor do we have the funds to pay for one. And
|
||
-=* OCCASIONALLY *=- there is the pointop who pulls 400k of mail a day
|
||
at 1200 bps and wants an HST, but can't afford retail on one because
|
||
he doesn't qualify for the sysop deal - you gotta have a BBS for that,
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 14 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
remember?
|
||
|
||
o Lack of information distribution to those affected seems to be a
|
||
problem as well. I am an active participant in several international
|
||
confrences, and the departure of Felix Kasza from FidoNet was a
|
||
surprise to me, if for no other reason than I didn't know who he was
|
||
or what he did.
|
||
|
||
Felix was an example of the FidoNet unsung hero - someone whose work
|
||
(often on their own dime) goes unnoticed by the vast majority of
|
||
people who benefit. I can understand how Felix could get burnt out -
|
||
I've thought more than once about saving about ten megabytes and
|
||
deleting every bit of FidoNet and BBS-related material from my system.
|
||
|
||
Not only did I not know who he was, I didn't hear about it from
|
||
anybody in the *C structure, through which our information is supposed
|
||
to come, right?
|
||
|
||
Instead, I heard it from the Zone 2 moderator of the INTERUSER
|
||
echo, and only by chance at that - I was doing a name search for
|
||
"Moderator" looking for the Zone 1 moderator. There was no note about
|
||
it in FidoNews 839 - I did a text search for his name and my computer
|
||
just beeped at me..."Kasza not found!"
|
||
|
||
Is it just me or do we have a problem here?
|
||
|
||
The nickname of Fight-o-Net seems to be true. I'm not going to say that
|
||
I didn't expect some politiking when I joined, but some of this stuff is
|
||
insane. Take a look at Pablo Kleinman's article in Fnews 840. I don't
|
||
know anything about the Zone 1 <> Zone 4 zonegate service embargo -
|
||
again, this didn't come to me through the *C structure (and I DO
|
||
pull and read the local sysop information echo) - but I've seen such
|
||
things happen on a smaller scale, and am not really surprised to see it
|
||
on an international level.
|
||
|
||
But I think it's deplorable.
|
||
|
||
I wasn't surprised to see Pablo's charge that his offer of providing
|
||
Zonegating services was declined for political reasons. It happens
|
||
where I am all the time. A pointop I know wanted to help in an
|
||
emergency hub crash situation. His offers, unsolicited by anyone and
|
||
made with the best of intentions, drew what amounted to flames by
|
||
members of his net.
|
||
|
||
Next time you make a comment - any comment, think about it first.
|
||
|
||
o Echomail distribution is WAAAY too political. I'm from Zone 1, but
|
||
I've heard reports from very reliable people that there's a big
|
||
political flap in Zone 2 over echomail payments to TAP. Feeds to
|
||
entire regions may get cut because some people demand payment for
|
||
something that -= USED =- to be a hobby.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 15 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
I agree that cost distribution is fair - it's a common practice here
|
||
in Zone 1, too. But it ought to be done on the net level, not on the
|
||
region level. There are many places where echos are fed from one
|
||
region to another on a passthru basis, and cutting feeds to the link
|
||
would be unfair. For example, a lot of echomail that flows into
|
||
Estonia goes through Finland. Cut Finland's feed and what happens to
|
||
Estonia?
|
||
|
||
o Someone commented in a recent FidoNews that we should get rid of all
|
||
the politickers (was it Pablo Klienman?). I am inclined to agree.
|
||
When I became a user of a FidoNet BBS about three years ago the same
|
||
people were running it as they do now. It's true that in my region
|
||
we've changed RCs once and RECs twice, but it's still the same old
|
||
gang. The only thing that's different are the titles.
|
||
|
||
I'm tempted to list the people I'm thinking of by name, but will not.
|
||
It is enough to say that they now hold positions of considerable
|
||
political power within FidoNet - and they have made more than one node
|
||
uncomfortable.
|
||
|
||
All of the political crap is driving very good people out of the
|
||
network, as well. Felix Kasza is the most obvious example that I know
|
||
of, but also a former NC of a network I'm near. This NC resigned his
|
||
position (he retains his node address), in part, as a protest to the
|
||
outcome of a policy complaint filed by him and 27 other individuals.
|
||
It was rejected, not only on the basis of a technicality (according to
|
||
POLICY4 only 3 of the 31 signatures were valid) but also for purely
|
||
political reasons. As I read the response closely I realized that the
|
||
complaint was rejected not because on a basis in POLICY4, but because
|
||
of the lack of a policy covering echomail (the partial subject of the
|
||
complaint). It seems to me that the result was merely protection of
|
||
someone already holding considerable power within Zone 1.
|
||
|
||
Someone, in a netmail comment, summed up what's going on, and I think
|
||
the shoe fits. He requested that he not be identified, but I will say
|
||
that he's a sysop somewhere in Zone 1 (THAT'S a big help, ain't it!).
|
||
|
||
Fidonet dies, slowly and painfully, because of all this
|
||
bureaucratic nonsense. Next thing we won't even be allowed to
|
||
send netmail direct to someone outside our own net.
|
||
|
||
It's time to cut out the bull and get back to where we started - a group
|
||
(okay, a huge group) of people having a good time together.
|
||
|
||
Comments are welcome if you can find me, but please route flames to
|
||
1:1/NUL. Have a nice day.
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 16 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
======================================================================
|
||
LATEST VERSIONS
|
||
======================================================================
|
||
|
||
Latest Greatest SoftWare Versions
|
||
Latest Update: 01/15/92
|
||
----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
MS-DOS Systems
|
||
--------------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software NodeList Utilities Compression
|
||
Name Version Name Version Utilities
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- Name Version
|
||
ADTBBS 1.50@ EditNL 4.00 --------------------
|
||
Aurora 1.32b FDND 1.10 ARC 7.12
|
||
DMG 2.93 MakeNL 2.31 ARJ 2.20
|
||
DreamBBS 1.05 Parselst 1.33 LHA 2.13
|
||
Fido/FidoNet 12.21 Prune 1.40 PAK 2.51
|
||
Genesis Deluxe 3.2 SysNL 3.14 PKPak 3.61
|
||
GSBBS 3.02 XlatList 2.90 PKZip 1.10
|
||
Kitten 1.01 XlaxNode/Diff 2.53
|
||
Lynx 1.30
|
||
Maximus-CBCS 2.00
|
||
Merlin 1.39n Other Utilities(A-M) Other Utilities(M-Z)
|
||
Opus 1.73a* Name Version Name Version
|
||
Oracomm 5.M.6P@ -------------------- --------------------
|
||
Oracomm Plus 6.E@ 2DAPoint 1.50* MsgMstr 2.03a
|
||
PCBoard 14.5a 4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18 MsgNum 4.16d
|
||
Phoenix 1.07* ARCAsim 2.31 MSGTOSS 1.3
|
||
ProBoard 1.20* ARCmail 2.07 Netsex 2.00b
|
||
QuickBBS 2.75 Areafix 1.20 OFFLINE 1.35*
|
||
RBBS 17.3b ConfMail 4.00 Oliver 1.0a
|
||
RemoteAccess 1.10 Crossnet 1.5 OSIRIS CBIS 3.02@
|
||
SimplexBBS 1.05 DOMAIN 1.42 PKInsert 7.10*
|
||
SLBBS 2.15C* DEMM 1.06 PolyXarc 2.1a
|
||
Socrates 1.11 DGMM 1.06 QM 1.00a
|
||
SuperBBS 1.12* DOMAIN 1.42 QSort 4.04
|
||
SuperComm 0.99 EEngine 0.32 RAD Plus 2.11
|
||
TAG 2.5g EMM 2.11* Raid 1.00
|
||
TBBS 2.1 EZPoint 2.1 RBBSMail 18.0
|
||
TComm/TCommNet 3.4 FGroup 1.00 ScanToss 1.28
|
||
Telegard 2.5 FidoPCB 1.0s@ ScMail 1.00
|
||
TPBoard 6.1 FNPGate 2.70 ScEdit 1.12
|
||
TriTel 2.0* GateWorks 3.06e Sirius 1.0x
|
||
WildCat! 3.0* GMail 2.05 SLMail 2.15C
|
||
WWIV 4.20 GMD 3.10 SquishMail 1.00
|
||
XBBS 1.77 GMM 1.21 StarLink 1.01
|
||
GoldEd 2.31p TagMail 2.41
|
||
GROUP 2.23 TCOMMail 2.2
|
||
Network Mailers GUS 1.40 Telemail 1.27
|
||
Name Version Harvey's Robot 4.10 TGroup 1.13
|
||
-------------------- HeadEdit 1.18 TIRES 3.11
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.50 HLIST 1.09 TMail 1.21
|
||
D'Bridge 1.30 IMAIL 1.20 TosScan 1.00
|
||
Dreamer 1.06 InterPCB 1.31 UFGATE 1.03
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 17 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
Dutchie 2.90c ISIS 5.12@ VPurge 4.09e
|
||
FrontDoor 2.02 Lola 1.01d WildMail 2.00
|
||
InterMail 2.01 Mosaic 1.00b XRS 4.99
|
||
Milqtoast 1.00 MailBase 4.11a@ XST 2.3e
|
||
PreNM 1.48 MSG 4.5* YUPPIE! 2.00
|
||
SEAdog 4.60 MSGED 2.06 ZmailH 1.25
|
||
SEAmail 1.01 MsgLnk 1.0c ZSX 2.40
|
||
TIMS 1.0(mod8)
|
||
|
||
|
||
OS/2 Systems
|
||
------------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Other Utilities(A-M Other Utilities(N-Z)
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
Kitten 1.01 ARC 7.12 oMMM 1.52
|
||
Maximus-CBCS 2.00 ARC2 6.01 Omail 3.1
|
||
SimplexBBS 1.04.02+ ConfMail 4.00 Parselst 1.33
|
||
EchoStat 6.0 PKZip 1.02
|
||
EZPoint 2.1 PMSnoop 1.30
|
||
Network Mailers FGroup 1.00 PolyXOS2 2.1a
|
||
Name Version GROUP 2.23 QSort 2.1
|
||
-------------------- LH2 2.11 Raid 1.0
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.50 MSG 4.2 Remapper 1.2
|
||
BinkleyTerm(S) 2.50 MsgEd 2.06c SquishMail 1.00
|
||
BinkleyTerm/2-MT MsgLink 1.0c Tick 2.0
|
||
1.40.02 MsgNum 4.16d VPurge 4.09e
|
||
SEAmail 1.01
|
||
|
||
|
||
Xenix/Unix 386
|
||
--------------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.32b ARC 5.21
|
||
C-LHARC 1.00
|
||
MsgEd 2.06
|
||
|Contact: Willy Paine 1:343/15,| MSGLINK 1.01
|
||
|or Eddy van Loo 2:285/406 | oMMM 1.42
|
||
Omail 1.00
|
||
ParseLst 1.32
|
||
Unzip 3.10
|
||
VPurge 4.08
|
||
Zoo 2.01
|
||
|
||
|
||
QNX
|
||
---
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 18 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
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-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
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QTach2 1.09 QMM 0.50s Kermit 2.03
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QCP 1.02
|
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NodeList Utilities Archive Utilities QSave 3.6
|
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Name Version Name Version QTTSysop 1.07.1
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- SeaLink 1.05
|
||
QNode 2.09 Arc 6.02 XModem 1.00
|
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LH 1.00.2 YModem 1.01
|
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Unzip 2.01 ZModem 0.02f
|
||
Zoo 2.01
|
||
|
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|
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Apple II
|
||
--------
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|
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BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
DDBBS + 8.0* Fruity Dog 2.0 deARC2e 2.1
|
||
GBBS Pro 2.1 ProSel 8.70*
|
||
ShrinkIt 3.30*
|
||
|Contact: Dennis McClain-Furmanski 1:275/42| ShrinkIt GS 1.04
|
||
|
||
|
||
Apple CP/M
|
||
----------
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|
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BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
Daisy 2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Filer 2-D
|
||
MsgUtil 2.5
|
||
Nodecomp 0.37
|
||
PackUser 4
|
||
UNARC.Com 1.20
|
||
|
||
|
||
Macintosh
|
||
---------
|
||
|
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BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
FBBS 0.91 Copernicus 1.0 ArcMac 1.3
|
||
Hermes 1.6.1 Tabby 2.2 AreaFix 1.6
|
||
Mansion 7.15 Compact Pro 1.30
|
||
Precision Sys. 0.95b EventMeister 1.0
|
||
Red Ryder Host 2.1 Export 3.21
|
||
Telefinder Host Import 3.2
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 19 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
2.12T10 LHARC 0.41
|
||
MacArd 0.04
|
||
Mantissa 3.21
|
||
Point System Mehitable 2.0
|
||
Software OriginatorII 2.0
|
||
Name Version PreStamp 3.2
|
||
-------------------- StuffIt Classic 1.6
|
||
Copernicus 1.00 SunDial 3.2
|
||
CounterPoint 1.09 TExport 1.92
|
||
MacWoof 1.1 TimeStamp 1.6
|
||
TImport 1.92
|
||
Tset 1.3
|
||
TSort 1.0
|
||
UNZIP 1.02c
|
||
Zenith 1.5
|
||
Zip Extract 0.10
|
||
|
||
|
||
Amiga
|
||
-----
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
4D-BBS 1.65@ BinkleyTerm 1.00 Areafix 1.48
|
||
DLG Pro. 0.96b TrapDoor 1.80 AReceipt 1.5
|
||
Falcon CBCS 1.00 WelMat 0.44 ChameleonEdit 0.11
|
||
Paragon 2.082+ ConfMail 1.12
|
||
TransAmiga 1.07 ElectricHerald 1.66
|
||
XenoLink 1.0 Compression FileMgr 2.08
|
||
Utilities GCChost 3.6b
|
||
Name Version Login 0.18
|
||
NodeList Utilities -------------------- MessageFilter 1.52
|
||
Name Version AmigArc 0.23 Message View 1.12
|
||
-------------------- booz 1.01 oMMM 1.50
|
||
ParseLst 1.66 LHARC 1.30 PolyXAmy 2.02
|
||
Skyparse 2.30 LZ 1.92 RMB 1.30
|
||
TrapList 1.40 PKAX 1.00 Roof 46.15
|
||
UnZip 4.1 RoboWriter 1.02
|
||
Zippy (Unzip) 1.25 Rsh 4.07a
|
||
Zoo 2.01 Tick 0.75
|
||
TrapToss 1.20
|
||
|Contact: Maximilian Hantsch 2:310/6| Yuck! 2.02
|
||
|
||
|
||
Atari ST/TT
|
||
-----------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
FIDOdoor/ST 2.5.1 BinkleyTerm 2.40n9 ApplyList 1.00@
|
||
FiFo 2.1v The Box 1.95* Burep 1.1
|
||
LED ST 1.00 ComScan 1.04
|
||
MSGED 1.99 ConfMail 4.10
|
||
QuickBBS/ST 1.06* NodeList Utilities Echoscan 1.10
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 20 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
Name Version FDrenum 2.5.2
|
||
-------------------- FastPack 1.20
|
||
Compression ParseList 1.30 Import 1.14
|
||
Utilities EchoFix 1.20 oMMM 1.40
|
||
Name Version sTICK/Hatch 5.50 Pack 1.00
|
||
-------------------- Trenum 0.10
|
||
ARC 6.02
|
||
LHARC 2.01i*
|
||
PackConvert
|
||
STZIP
|
||
UnJARST 2.00
|
||
WhatArc 2.02
|
||
|
||
|
||
Archimedes
|
||
----------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
ARCbbs 1.44 BinkleyTerm 2.03 ARC 1.03
|
||
RiscBBS 0.9.85m@ BatchPacker 1.00
|
||
ParseLst 1.30
|
||
!Spark 2.00d
|
||
Unzip 2.1TH
|
||
|
||
|
||
Tandy Color Computer 3 (OS-9 Level II)
|
||
--------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Compression Utility Other Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------
|
||
RiBBS 2.02 OS9ARC (Arc) 1.0 Ascan 1.2
|
||
OS9ARC (Dearc) 1.0 AutoFRL 2.0
|
||
DEARC CKARC 1.1
|
||
UNZIP 3.10 EchoCheck 1.01
|
||
FReq 2.5a
|
||
LookNode 2.00
|
||
ParseLST
|
||
RList 1.03
|
||
RTick 2.00
|
||
UnSeen 1.1
|
||
|
||
|
||
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
|
||
Key: + - Netmail Capable (Doesn't Require Additional Mailer Software)
|
||
* - Recently Updated Version
|
||
@ - New Addition
|
||
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 21 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Complete List is Available For FReq as VERSIONS from 1:103/250
|
||
|
||
Utility Authors: Please help keep this list up to date by reporting
|
||
all new versions to 1:103/250 in this format:
|
||
|
||
1) Software Name & Version 2) FileName.Ext
|
||
3) Support Node Address 4) Support BBS Phone Number
|
||
|
||
|
||
Note: It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those
|
||
which verge on necessity. If you want it updated in the next
|
||
FidoNews, get it to me by Thursday evening.
|
||
|
||
--David French, 1:103/250
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 22 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
======================================================================
|
||
FIDONEWS INFORMATION
|
||
======================================================================
|
||
|
||
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------
|
||
|
||
Editors: Tom Jennings, Tim Pozar
|
||
Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Periello
|
||
Special thanks to Ken Kaplan, 1:100/22, aka Fido #22
|
||
|
||
"FidoNews" BBS
|
||
FidoNet 1:1/1
|
||
Internet fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org
|
||
BBS (415)-863-2739 (9600 HST/V32)
|
||
|
||
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
||
FidoNews
|
||
Box 77731
|
||
San Francisco
|
||
CA 94107 USA
|
||
|
||
Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international
|
||
amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual
|
||
articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The
|
||
contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the
|
||
rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those
|
||
of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
FidoNews is copyright 1991 Fido Software. All rights reserved.
|
||
Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes
|
||
only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews (we're
|
||
easy).
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: FidoNews in electronic form may be obtained from
|
||
the FidoNews BBS via manual download or Wazoo FileRequest, or from
|
||
various sites in the FidoNet and via uucp. PRINTED COPIES mailed
|
||
may be obtained from Fido Software for $5.00US each PostPaid First
|
||
Class within North America, or $7.00US elsewhere, mailed Air Mail.
|
||
(US funds drawn upon a US bank only.)
|
||
|
||
Periodic subscriptions are not available at this time; if enough
|
||
people request it I will implement it.
|
||
|
||
|
||
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
|
||
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
|
||
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
|
||
from 1:1/1 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC".
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 9-04 Page 23 27 Jan 1992
|
||
|
||
|
||
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
||
trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco
|
||
CA 94107, USA and are used with permission.
|
||
|
||
-- END
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
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