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Volume 7, Number 39 24 September 1990
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Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello
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Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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Copyright 1990, Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication
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and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only.
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For use in other circumstances, please contact Fido Software.
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FidoNews is published weekly by the System Operators of the
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FidoNet (r) International BBS Network. It is a compilation of
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individual articles contributed by their authors or authorized
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agents of the authors. The contribution of articles to this
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compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors.
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You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1:1/1. 1:1/1 is a Continuous
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Mail system, available for network mail 24 hours a day.
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Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of
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Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and are
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used with permission.
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Opinions expressed in FidoNews articles are those of the authors
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and are not necessarily those of the Editor or of Fido Software.
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Most articles are unsolicited. Our policy is to publish every
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responsible submission received.
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Table of Contents
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1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
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Call New York! ........................................... 1
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Garbage in, but no garbage out ........................... 2
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LHArc and FidoNet ........................................ 5
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A LISTING OF KNOWN OTHERNETS ............................. 7
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ANNOUNCING THE "OTHERNET" NODELIST ....................... 10
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OTHERNETS: An Echo for Information on OtherNets .......... 12
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PDN Distribution ......................................... 13
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Popcorn packing? ......................................... 16
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2. LATEST VERSIONS .......................................... 18
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Latest Software Versions ................................. 18
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And more!
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 1 24 Sep 1990
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ARTICLES
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Ronnie Toth
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FidoNet 1:135/71
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September 22, 1990
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CALLNY......The Echo
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Have you been to NY lately? Would you like to go? Are you from
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NY originally? Would you just like to chat with folks in the
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Big Apple?
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There are thousands of transplanted New Yorkers. People, like
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me, who grew up in the Big Apple and moved away. We left alot
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of friends behind. And you folks in NY, how about visiting with
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us transplanted NYers? We're sure you've friends you grew up
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with but have since lost touch with when they moved away.
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Perhaps we can help you find each other again. You know it's
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very true what they say, "You can take the person out of NY but
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you can't take NY out of the person!" We who left will always
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have a little of NY in us.
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Seems there is a whole bunch of us ex-Nyers scattered all over
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the place and we want to have a nice place to get together. And
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there are some folks who just want to see what NY is like, the
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armchair way.
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Here's the way to do it! CALLNY is the echo for you! We have
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been chatting away for about a month down in the Southeast and
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it's time to share with everyone else.
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Join us and CALLNY.
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Though working on getting this echo on the backbone, we need to
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know who you are who want to take this echo and we're PC
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Pursuitable!
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Send session and areafix passwords to:
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Ronnie Toth, Moderator
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2400 baud...1:135/71 (PC Pursuit) or
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Michele Hamilton
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HST...1:369/21 (direct)
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 2 24 Sep 1990
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Mike Robeson
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Fidonet node 1:350/21.1
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GARBAGE IN, BUT NO GARBAGE OUT
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Humans have always had garbage. For most of the past two-and-a-
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half million years, they left it where it fell and moved on.
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Garbage first became a crisis as humans became sedentary - when,
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rather than move themselves, they decided to move their trash.
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That pivotal decision gave rise to a need for a class of people
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that could deal with the mountains of rubbish. This solution
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worked so well it is still in place today. In Cairo, for
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example, generations of rural immigrant families eke out a living
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in the municipal dumps, salvaging everything useable.
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Modern landfills are quite different.
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Visualize a landfill. Do you imagine it as a monstrous mountain
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of smoldering food, yard waste, and building materials, mixed
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with piles of polystyrene foam packaging and plastic junk? How
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much of a landfill is made up of plastic packaging? Ask the
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person on the street and the answers may be 20, 30, even 50
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percent.
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Those figures could make a solid waste educator feel smug and
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self-righteous. If only it were true!
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Dr. William Rathje is a renowned anthropologist/archaeologist.
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For decades he has been excavating landfills to see what,
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exactly, is in them. His conclusions are quite different than
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what we may imagine.
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Rathje's "Garbage Project" spent two years exhuming 16,000 pounds
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of trash, weighing all items and sorting them into 27 basic
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categories and then into 162 subcategories.
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* In those eight tons of garbage he found only 16 pounds of fast-
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food packaging, about a tenth of 1 percent.
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* The entire category of plastic was less than 5 percent of the
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landfill's contents by weight and 12 percent by volume.
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He determined the real culprit in landfills is paper. Paper
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accounts for 40 percent to 50 percent of everything we throw
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away. He wrote in The Atlantic Monthly, December, 1989:
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"If fast-food packaging is the Emperor's New Clothes of garbage,
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then a number of categories of paper goods collectively deserve
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the role of Invisible Man. Dig a trench through a landfill and
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you will see layers of phone books, like geological strata or
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layers of cake. Just as conspicuous as telephone books are new-
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 3 24 Sep 1990
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papers, which make up 10 percent to 18 percent of the contents
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of a typical municipal landfill by volume. Even after several
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years of burial they are usually well preserved. During a recent
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dig in Phoenix, I found newspapers dating back to 1952 that
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looked so fresh you might read one over breakfast. Deep within
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landfills, copies of that New York Times editorial about fast-
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food containers will remain legible until well into the next
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century."
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Another shocking discovery: The concept of biodegradability in a
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landfill environment is myth.
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The reality is that the garbage is entombed and mummified. This
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destroys the credibility of degradable plastics. Rathje's team
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has found perfectly preserved ears of corn dating from 1971. If
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the landfill microbes don't eat these, they won't be drawn to the
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minuscule amount of edible corn starch in a "biodegradable"
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plastic bag or diaper.
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What does an eco-warrior say when confronted with such proof? I
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say RECYCLING is still the answer.
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That New York Times has no business in the landfill! Newspaper
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recycling is in place in virtually every city and town. In some
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areas it is currently worthless to the recycler, but that will
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change as the demand catches up with the supply. In Washington,
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legislation is in place to revise freight rates, making it
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cheaper to transport recycled paper than to transport wood for
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pulp.
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U.S. West of Washington State has responded to public pressure
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and is exploring new markets for recycled phone books, such as
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animal bedding and insulation. The books could be made recyclable
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by using a better grade of paper and having only a strip of yellow
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mark the Yellow Pages. The phone company can help municipalities
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set up recycling programs for these predictable yearly waves of
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waste.
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WHAT CAN YOU DO?
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* Become part of the pressure and call your telephone company
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and/or producer of your telephone book.
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* Purchase recycled paper products at home and at work. These
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are typically more expensive, but that will only change when
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more people demand recycled products. Available materials range
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from computer paper to toilet tissue.
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* Talk or write to the government. Government agencies use far
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more paper than any other institutions. They have a
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responsibility to use recycled paper.
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 4 24 Sep 1990
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* How about your children's schools? In a pilot program at a
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local Junior High, the students have recycled more than a ton of
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high-grade paper in six months. The loop will be complete when
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the paper we recycle is recycled paper. Volunteer to help.
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* Continue to reject plastic that is not in the form of a
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durable, reusable item. Know that any "biodegradable" plastic
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is a scam.
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* Since landfill garbage just sits around, make sure only things
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that belong in landfills go there. Support the recycling
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industry by purchasing recycled products. Choose containers with
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proven value in the world marketplace; cardboard, glass and
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metal.
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When we are truly committed to these actions, we can begin to see
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ourselves as masters of our garbage not slaves of a "Throw away
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society".
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Extracted from article by Molly Pearson, Port Townsend,
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Washington. Transcribed by Mike Robeson.
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 5 24 Sep 1990
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On Lharc and FidoNet - my three bits' worth
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Luke Kolin, 1:250/1@fidonet
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I must admit that I got quite a surprise when I started re-
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ceiving my FidoNews in LHARC format. Now I've always been one
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to advocate the progression of standards, but I'm afraid that
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this entire lharc FIASCO has shown to FidoNet the pitfalls
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of political games.
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Vince Periello wears two hats, that of programmer, and that
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of network official, namely, Editor of FidoNews. As a pro-
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grammer, he has the choice to use whichever compression util-
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ity he chooses for his software. Out of his own beliefs, he
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chooses LHARC. I choose PKZIP, but again, this is my personal
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decision.
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However, as Editor of FidoNews, he is not allowed to make
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personal decisions. Any technical changes that he wishes to
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implement MUST be made after lengthy consultations with others.
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Vince, you're no longer acting according to your own beliefs.
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It's a much higher calling. More is expected of you. It is
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up to you to put the network's best interests to heart.
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And using LHARC is not in the network's best interest. Many
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people have risen up to complain about the way this switch was
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done. Vince, listen to them! This discussion isn't closed, not
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by a long shot. They don't appreciate the fact that LHARC is
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"portable". If they're not programmers, portability means
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about as much to them as the cost of green cheese.
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They don't appreciate the fact that no consultations were
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made. Three people running DOS systems? Give me a break! Does
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that constitute an acceptable amount of opinions on the
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matter? No one could possibly say yes to that.
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What rationale did you use, Vince? That ARC 7.0 is now
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commercial software? As far as I can tell, ARC 5.12 is public
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domain. People I know have been passing it around for years,
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without mention of cost. So why drop a perfectly good standard,
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which has already been ported over successfully to almost
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every environment in sight? I'll say it now:
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" Using the present commerical status of ARC 7.0
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appears to me to be the least logical rationale
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possible to eliminate the use of ARC 5.12. "
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We've already got a standard! Why change it? It works! It
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works real good. It's been ported. So what if further versions
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are commercial?
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Vince, you've allowed personal sentiment to come ahead of
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your responsibilities. Being the Editor of FidoNews does allow
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a good amount of personal sentiment and ideology to come into
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the job. It's essential to being a good editor. But you've
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got to make sure that the network comes out ahead in the end.
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 6 24 Sep 1990
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It is clear to me that you have failed to do so. If you wish
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to stand permanently beside your views, I would reccomend that
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you resign. But I hope that rather than that, you will listen
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to reason (and a host of other sysops) and re-institute ARC
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5.12 as the standard compression method for FidoNews.
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 7 24 Sep 1990
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Ralph Merritt
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1:269/111
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Here is some info on various networks (that occupy zones) which
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I've compiled from multiple sources. Hope you find it useful/
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informative! The working copy of this textfile can be file-
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requested as NETSALL.ART.
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Zone (Zone/0) Fidonet FREQ from
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Network Name Zone Coordinator Address 1:269/111
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FidoNet N. America 1 George Peace 1:13/13 NODELIST
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Fidonet Europe 2 Ron Dwight 2:515/1 "
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Fidonet Oceania 3 Bill Bolton 3:711/403 "
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Fidonet S. America 4 Pablo Kleinman 4:900/107 "
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Fidonet Africa 5 Henk Wolsink 5:494/2 "
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MacList 6 Tom Heffernan 1:107/554 MACLIST
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AlterNet 7 Karl Schinke 1:107/516 ANETLIST
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RbbsNet 8 Rod Bowman 1:10/8 RBBSLIST
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The NETWORK 8 Bob Hoffman 1:129/34 NETLIST
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Paranet 9 Michael Corbin 1:207/109 PARANET
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PhoenixNet 9 Glen Cranford PHNXLIST
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OPCN 11 Jim Grubs 1:234/1 OPCNLIST
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KesherNet 18 Jason Frokin 1:108/185 KNETLIST
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SIGnet 24 Jamie Penner 1:153/169 SIGNODES
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" 25 William Mastop 1:153/170 "
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" 26 Tom Mcgivern 1:103/328 "
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" 27 Fabiano Fabris 2:310/11.22 "
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" 28 J. Homerighausen 3:362/308 "
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" 29 Borlong Lin 3:722/5 "
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" 34 Andrew Farmer 1:163/115 "
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USCATCOM 31
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EmergencyNet 31 Guy Hokanson 1:212/107 ENLIST
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" 32 Vacant "
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" 33 Vacant "
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" 34 Vacant "
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" 35 Vacant "
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" 36 Vacant "
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" 37 Vacant "
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IS-Net 40
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CandyNet 42 Dr Pepper CANDYNET
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EchoNet 50 Ed Lawyer 1:261/3000 ENETLIST
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GhotiNet (USA) 60 John Marlett 1:116/18
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GhotiNet (Australia) 61 Graeme Nichols 3:714/404
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ADULT_LINKS 69 Jim Deputy 1:103/158 69LIST
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APINET 69 Robert Eckert 1:269/304 APINET
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FinancialNet 72 D. Cadwallader 1:363/363
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HAMLINK 73 Jim Grubs 1:234/1
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LCRNET 77 Tom Sirianni 1:105/301
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SpectroNet 77 David Musick 1:363/61 SPECLIST
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BBSnet 86 Tom Hendricks 1:261/662
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TrekNet 87 Rob Lehrman 1:203/57 TREKLIST
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Alternet CDN 89 John Dunn n/a ANETLIST
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Eggnet_Asia 96 Bob Germer 1:266/21 n/a
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Eggnet_Europe 97 Bob Germer 1:266/21 EEGGLIST
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MIL_NET 98 Kerry Buckingham 1:123/22
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 8 24 Sep 1990
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EggNet 99 Johnny Pulliam n/a EGGLIST
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DENVNET 200
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MetroNet 200 Jason Steck 1:104/424 METRONET
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FREQ'able info on OtherNets from my system:
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69LIST Adult_Links Nodelist
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ANETLIST Current Alternet nodelist
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ANETDIFF Current Alternet nodediff
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APINET Current APINET nodelist
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CANDYNET CandyNet nodelist
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ECHOLIST Current ELIST (by Mike Fuchs)
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ECHOPOL 4/22/89 Fidonet Echopol1 document
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ECHOVNET Current Vervan's Gaming Network newsletter
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EEGGLIST Eggnet Europe Nodelist
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EGGLIST Current EggNet nodelist
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EGGNEWS Current EggNet newsletter
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EGGPOL Current EggNet Policy
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EN_INFO Info on Emergency Network
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ENETLIST Current EchoNet nodelist
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ENETNEWS Current EchoNet newsletter
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ENETPOL Current EchoNet policy
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ENLIST EmergencyNet nodelist
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EN_INFO Info on Emergency Network
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FIDONEWS Current Fidonet newsletter
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KNETLIST KesherNet Nodelist
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LT_INFO Info on The Learning Tree Network
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MAC_INFO Info on MACLIST
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MACLIST Current MACLIST nodelist
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METRONET MetroNet nodelist
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NETLIST The Network nodelist
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NODELIST Current Fidonet nodelist
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NODEDIFF Current Fidonet nodediff
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OPCNLIST OPCN nodelist
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OTHERNET Nodelist of many OtherNets combined
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PARANET Paranet nodelist
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PHNXLIST PhoenixNet nodelist
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POLICY4 Current Fidonet Policy
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RBBSLIST Current RBBS-NET nodelist
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RBBSECHO Current RBBS-NET echos listing
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SIGECHO Current SIGnet echos listing
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SIGNEWS Current SIGnet newsletter
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SIGNODES Current SIGnet nodelist
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SIGPOL Curernt SIGnet policy
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SPECLIST SpectroNet nodelist
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TREKLIST TrekNet nodelist
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TREKNEWS TrekNet newsletter
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Note: If it doesn't say "Current" there's no guarantee it is!
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 9 24 Sep 1990
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=================================================================
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If you have some additional info, or corrections, I can be
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reached at the following addresses:
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1:269/111 Fidonet
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6:6001/5 MACLIST
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7:520/953 AlterNet
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8:950/14 RBBS-NET
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26:1201/103 SigNet
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50:5013/111 EchoNet
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69:6969/18 APINET
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99:9220/202 EggNet
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FidoNews 7-39 Page 10 24 Sep 1990
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Ralph Merritt
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1:269/111
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I am pleased to say that as of 9/21/90, the OTHERNET nodelist is
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available (OTHERNET.264).
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The OtherNet NodeList is a nodelist of selected networks other
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than Fidonet (Zones 1-5). It is a compilation of individual
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nodelist segments contributed by the drafters and compilers of
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those segments. Contribution of these segments to this
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compilation does not diminish the rights of the contributors.
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This nodelist has been compiled by myself for my personal use,
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due to Parselist's limitation that 6 nodelists be compiled.
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Due to public interest, this nodelist is being made available
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via the FREQ magic name of OTHERNET.
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YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESULTS OF USING THIS NODELIST. BY
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COMPILING THIS NODELIST YOU AGREE THAT I CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE
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FOR IT'S USE BY YOURSELF. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES
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OR COSTS THAT RESULT FROM THE USE OF THIS NODELIST, INCLUDING THE
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DIALING OF A WRONG NUMBER DUE TO OVERLAPPING ZONE/NET/NODE
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ADDRESS USAGE!!!
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The contents of the OtherNet.264 nodelist are as follows:
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Nodelist Name Network Zone(s)
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ANETLIST.264 AlterNet 7
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RBBSLIST.259 RBBS-NET 8
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NETLIST.236 The Network 8
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PARANET.187 ParaNet 9
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PHNX.237 PhoenixNet 9
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OPCNLIST.243 Official Public Computer Network 11
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KNETLIST.091 KesherNet 18
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ENLIST.236 EmergencyNet 31-37
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CANDYNET.250 CandyNet 42
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PHUCKLST.257 Another Phuckyn International Network 69
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69LIST.236 Adult_Links 69
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LCRNET.243 Least Cost Recovery Network 77
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SPECLIST.007 SpectroNet 77
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TREKLIST.229 TrekNet 87
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EEGGLIST.250 EggNet Europe 97
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EGGLIST.264 EggNet 99
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METRO.250 MetroNet 200
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I don't compile the MACLIST (Zone 6), SIGNODES (Zones 24-29,34),
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and ENETLIST (Zone 50) nodelists into the OTHERNET nodelist; I
|
||
compile those three along with the NODELIST (Zones 1-5), the
|
||
OTHERNET nodelist (this file) and a PRIVATE nodelist, to max
|
||
out at the six nodelists Parselst allows.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 11 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
I update the OtherNet nodelist as often as I can, please don't
|
||
flamemail me if it's outta date. Remember, this is something I
|
||
do for my own personal use, I'm simply sharing it with others.
|
||
|
||
I wish to thank everyone who has contributed to this effort by
|
||
providing information and nodelists for OtherNets.
|
||
|
||
If you have some additional info, or corrections, I can be
|
||
reached at the following addresses:
|
||
|
||
Ralph Merritt
|
||
Compiler of the OtherNet nodelist
|
||
|
||
1:269/111 Fidonet
|
||
6:6001/5 MACLIST
|
||
7:520/953 AlterNet
|
||
8:950/14 RBBS-NET
|
||
26:1201/103 SigNet
|
||
50:5013/111 EchoNet
|
||
69:6969/18 APINET
|
||
99:9220/202 EggNet
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 12 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Ralph Merritt
|
||
1:269/111
|
||
|
||
Have you ever wondered about "OtherNets"? You know, all those
|
||
other networks out there besides Fidonet (yeah, yeah, there are
|
||
OtherNets!). What are their names? Who runs them? What is
|
||
their purpose? What can they offer?
|
||
|
||
Many of us have heard of some "well-known" OtherNets, like
|
||
Alternet, RBBS-NET, SigNet and EggNet. But did you know that
|
||
there is MACLIST, for Macintosh sysops? How about EchoNet, a
|
||
network dedicated to quality echos? Or The Network? Have you
|
||
heard of SpectroNet? Paranet? Candynet? LCRNet? Emergency
|
||
Net? There's more ....
|
||
|
||
It's questions like this in my mind that led me to begin doing
|
||
some research into the OtherNets. Two other articles in this
|
||
issue of Fidonews ("Announcing the OtherNet Nodelist" and "A
|
||
Listing of Known OtherNets") represent the results of that
|
||
research.
|
||
|
||
Apparently, judging from the number of file-requests in my
|
||
fd.log, there is a lot of interest out there in OtherNets.
|
||
That's why I've decided to establish a new echo, area tag name
|
||
OTHERNETS, for the disemmination and sharing of information
|
||
on OtherNets.
|
||
|
||
OTHERNETS will originate from my Fidonet system, 1:269/111. It
|
||
is my hope that there will be sufficient interest to place it on
|
||
the distribution systems for Fidonet, RBBS-NET, SigNet and any
|
||
of the OtherNet "backbone" distribution systems.
|
||
|
||
For more information on OtherNets, or to obtain a link to the
|
||
OTHERNETS echo, please contact me at one of the addresses below:
|
||
|
||
1:269/111 Fidonet
|
||
6:6001/5 MACLIST
|
||
7:520/953 AlterNet
|
||
8:950/14 RBBS-NET
|
||
26:1201/103 SigNet
|
||
50:5013/111 EchoNet
|
||
69:6969/18 APINET
|
||
99:9220/202 EggNet
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 13 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Erik Vanriper
|
||
Fido 1:260/230
|
||
|
||
Distribution Sites for the Programmers Distribution Network
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
A couple of months ago, I started a Distribution Network
|
||
for Programmers. I had no idea that this would take off into
|
||
what it has today. I get requests three or four times a week
|
||
asking to locate a link for a node into the PDN. This has become
|
||
a task in itself! I figured that the best way for me to reach
|
||
the maximum amount of people would be to publish another article
|
||
here and list a FEW of the current PDN sites. There are more,
|
||
but I thought "They will get the point!". If you are interested
|
||
in picking up the PDN for your Net, or for yourself, please
|
||
contact one of the below listed nodes. They will be more then
|
||
happy to help out. Probably, the best way for you to get a good
|
||
link, (If you are in Zone 1) is to contact one of the Regional
|
||
Coordinators listed first. For other zones, choose a node listed
|
||
for your Zone, and they should be able to direct you to the
|
||
CHEAPEST link. I have tried to set things up so that it is
|
||
inexpensive as possible to move these files around. If you are
|
||
an in-state, long distance node to one of these coordinators,
|
||
then go to another region. Keeps your costs down! If you have
|
||
any general questions about the PDN, feel free to send me a
|
||
NetMail message and ask away! I will be more then happy in
|
||
aiding you to set up. I am truely sorry if the below information
|
||
is incorrect, and I have mis-guided you, but these things change
|
||
so fast (Baud rates, etc) that I cannot keep up with all of them!
|
||
If you are carrying the PDN, and you are not listed below, I am
|
||
sorry. I listed only those that are 9600 baud and above. This
|
||
does not mean that you cannot carry the PDN, I am sure that
|
||
people will be more then happy to support you at 1200/2400 baud.
|
||
|
||
Happy Hacking!
|
||
|
||
|
||
Name................|Zone(s):Net/Node(s)....|Max Baud Rate...
|
||
=============================================================
|
||
|
||
[Regional Coordinators, Zone 1]
|
||
(The number in parens represents the Region they cover)
|
||
|
||
David Wurz (10) 1:102/531
|
||
99:910/0 9600 HST
|
||
Ed Almasy (11) 1:121/99 9600 HST
|
||
Andre Morin (12) 1:240/507 14.4 HST
|
||
Erik Vanriper (13) 1:260/230 14.4 HST V42
|
||
Jim Harre (14) 1:100/555 9600 HST V32
|
||
Dave Harris (15) 1:302/5 9600 HST V32
|
||
Chris Browne (16) 1:141/735 9600 HST
|
||
Frank Cox (17) 1:140/53 9600 HST V32
|
||
Ed Cavender (18) 1:116/36 9600 HST V32
|
||
Michael Skurka (19) 1:397/2 14.4 HST V32
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 14 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
[Net Distribution Points, Zone 1]
|
||
|
||
Tom Hendricks 1:261/662 9600 HST
|
||
Durk Jones 1:160/40 9600 HST
|
||
Bob Hamilton 1:140/28 14.4 HST V32
|
||
Taine Gilliam 1:372/42 14.4 HST/DS
|
||
John Souvestre 1:396/1 14.4 HST V32
|
||
Floyd Drennon 1:375/12 14.4 HST
|
||
Richard Lee 1:151/223
|
||
26:1919/2 9600 HST/DS
|
||
James Dick 1:163/118 9600 HST
|
||
Glenn Caleval 1:140/72 14.4 HST
|
||
Bob Dufur 1:132/159 9600 HST
|
||
Bill Thomas 1:132/225 14.4 HST
|
||
Don Dawson 1:141/730 9600 HST/DS
|
||
Paul Shoop 1:132/201 9600 HST
|
||
George Brann 1:387/822 9600
|
||
Paul Gartner 1:167/116 9600 HST
|
||
Jerry Lamphere 1:260/325 9600 HST V32
|
||
Greg Shaffer 1:370/500
|
||
1:370/510
|
||
99:912/18
|
||
69:22/18
|
||
80:2599/42 14.4 HST V42
|
||
Rick Aldrich 1:347/7 14.4 HST
|
||
Russ Crook 1:348/205 14.4 HST
|
||
Michael Cody 1:2202/3 9600/450 HST
|
||
Patrick Curry 1:3621/425 9600 HST/DS
|
||
Larry James 1:105/72
|
||
8:917/1 9600 V32
|
||
Chris Davis 1:348/1 14.4 HST
|
||
David Campbell 1:320/109 9600 HST/DS
|
||
|
||
|
||
[Net Distribution Points, Zone 2]
|
||
|
||
Eric Lotgerink 2:283/1 14.4 HST V42
|
||
Ralf Pradella 2:249/6 14.4 HST V42
|
||
Norbert Versluis 2:283/106 14.4 HST V42
|
||
Didi Pabel 2:249/4 14.4 HST V32/V42
|
||
Roland Mausolf 2:243/43 9600 HST/DS V32/V42
|
||
Kai Heimala 2:515/6
|
||
2:2/322 9600 V32
|
||
Guenter Reichelt 2:245/3 14.4 HST V32/V42
|
||
Kai Kunze 2:247/205 14.4 HST V32/V42
|
||
Achim Breuer 2:247/801 14.4 HST V32/V42
|
||
Thomas Anyfantis 2:507/645 14.4 HST V32/V42
|
||
Thomas Nachtigal 2:509/10 14.4 HST V42
|
||
|
||
[Net Distribution Points, Zone 3]
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 15 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Joaquim Homrighausen 3:632/308@fidonet
|
||
28:28/0@signet 9600 HST/DS
|
||
Dave Hatch 3:711/808 9600
|
||
|
||
Name................|Zone(s):Net/Node(s)....|Max Baud Rate...
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 16 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Mike Robeson
|
||
Fidonet 1:350/21.1
|
||
|
||
Popcorn packing?
|
||
The popcorn padding: an ecological packaging can replace
|
||
plastic.
|
||
|
||
Alexander Fruit & Trading Co of Geyserville Calif has come
|
||
up with an environmentaly correct packaging idea -
|
||
substituting popped popcorn for plastic foam.
|
||
|
||
Steve Sommer, president of the 5-year-old gourmet wine and
|
||
food company 75 miles north of San Francisco, began to pack
|
||
everything from ginger honey sauce to cabernet sauvignon in
|
||
popcorn after his five kids lobbied for more ecologically
|
||
sound packaging material.
|
||
|
||
Unlike plastic foam, popcorn "is naturally biodegradable, so
|
||
you may feed it to birds or use it as mulch in your garden,"
|
||
Sommer said. He does not advise that customers eat the
|
||
packaging.
|
||
|
||
"We want to avoid any liability problems," he said. "Besides
|
||
its usually stale by the time it arrives in the mail."
|
||
|
||
Sommer hopes his sales of popcorn for packaging purposes may
|
||
soon rival his $500,000-a-year food and wine business.
|
||
|
||
Prospective customers are excited by the idea of snubbing
|
||
plastic foam, but they want to make sure popcorn contains
|
||
all the right cushioning properties.
|
||
|
||
Janet Churchill, in charge of packaging for Montessori
|
||
Services in nearby Santa Rosa, said she wonders how much the
|
||
popcorn breaks down in transit. "We've just started using
|
||
it and we haven't had any complaints from customers yet."
|
||
she said.
|
||
|
||
Joan Graham, who with her husband Gary, owns a Sonoma crafts
|
||
gallery called Good Day Sunshine, said she started looking
|
||
for a plastic foam substitute a couple of years ago when
|
||
customers noted that using the ecologically unsound plastic
|
||
kernels reflected badly on her store.
|
||
|
||
She is now awaiting her shipment of popcorn from Sommer.
|
||
|
||
"I think using this will make me feel a whole lot less
|
||
guilty about how I send my goods," she said.
|
||
|
||
John Clark, a buyer in charge of packaging materials for
|
||
Santa Rosa Paper, which currently distributes plastic foam
|
||
packaging, said his company also is interested in switching
|
||
to popcorn.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 17 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
However, he is awaiting a ruling from United Parcel Service
|
||
for approval of popcorn's use in shipping all goods.
|
||
|
||
"I know Sommer's company has recieved UPS approval to ship
|
||
his goods, and others may independently have received such
|
||
approvals, but they haven't issued a general ruling to cover
|
||
all shipped goods yet," he said.
|
||
|
||
"If they do, popcorn may become the packaging material of
|
||
choice," he added, putting a major dent in the multimillion
|
||
dollar plastic foam packaging market.
|
||
|
||
Transcribed from NY Times newsservice, by Mike Robeson.
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 18 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
LATEST VERSIONS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Latest Software Versions
|
||
|
||
MS-DOS Systems
|
||
--------------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
DMG 2.93 Phoenix 1.3 TAG 2.5f*
|
||
Fido 12s+ QuickBBS 2.64 TBBS 2.1
|
||
Lynx 1.30 RBBS 17.3A TComm/TCommNet 3.4
|
||
Kitten 2.16 RBBSmail 17.3A Telegard 2.5
|
||
Maximus 1.02* RemoteAccess 0.04a* TPBoard 6.1
|
||
Opus 1.13+ SLBBS 1.77* Wildcat! 2.15
|
||
PCBoard 14.5* Socrates 1.00 XBBS 1.13
|
||
|
||
Network Node List Other
|
||
Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version
|
||
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.40* EditNL 4.00 ARC 7.0*
|
||
D'Bridge 1.30 MakeNL 2.20 ARCAsim 2.30
|
||
Dutchie 2.90C ParseList 1.30 ARCmail 2.07
|
||
FrontDoor 1.99c* Prune 1.40 ConfMail 4.00
|
||
PRENM 1.47 SysNL 3.11 Crossnet v1.5
|
||
SEAdog 4.51b XlatList 2.90 EMM 2.02
|
||
TIMS 1.0(Mod8)* XlaxDiff 2.35* Gmail 2.05
|
||
XlaxNode 2.35* GROUP 2.16
|
||
GUS 1.30
|
||
InterPCB 1.31*
|
||
LHARC 1.13
|
||
MSG 4.1
|
||
MSGED 2.00*
|
||
PK[UN]ZIP 1.10
|
||
QM 1.0
|
||
QSORT 4.03
|
||
Sirius 1.0w
|
||
SLMAIL 1.35
|
||
StarLink 1.01
|
||
TagMail 2.20
|
||
TCOMMail 2.2
|
||
Telemail 1.27*
|
||
TMail 1.15
|
||
TPBNetEd 3.2
|
||
TosScan 1.00
|
||
UFGATE 1.03
|
||
XRS 3.40
|
||
ZmailQ 1.12*
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 19 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Apple CP/M
|
||
----------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Daisy v2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Nodecomp 0.37
|
||
MsgUtil 2.5
|
||
PackUser v4
|
||
Filer v2-D
|
||
UNARC.COM 1.20
|
||
|
||
|
||
Macintosh
|
||
---------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Red Ryder Host v2.1b10 Tabby 2.2 MacArc 0.04
|
||
Mansion 7.15 Copernicus 1.0d* ArcMac 1.3
|
||
WWIV (Mac) 3.0 StuffIt 1.6b1*
|
||
FBBS 0.91* TImport 1.331
|
||
Hermes 0.88* TExport 1.32
|
||
Timestamp 1.6
|
||
Tset 1.3
|
||
Import 3.2
|
||
Export 3.21
|
||
Sundial 3.2
|
||
PreStamp 3.2
|
||
OriginatorII 2.0
|
||
AreaFix 1.6
|
||
Mantissa 3.21
|
||
Zenith 1.5
|
||
UNZIP 1.02b
|
||
|
||
Amiga
|
||
-----
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Paragon 2.06+ BinkleyTerm 1.00 AmigArc 0.23
|
||
TrapDoor 1.50* AReceipt 1.5*
|
||
WelMat 0.35 booz 1.01
|
||
ConfMail 1.10
|
||
ChameleonEdit 0.10
|
||
ElectricHerald1.66*
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 20 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Lharc 1.10
|
||
MessageFilter 1.52*
|
||
oMMM 1.49b
|
||
ParseLst 1.30
|
||
PkAX 1.00
|
||
PK[UN]ZIP 1.01
|
||
PolyxAmy 2.02*
|
||
RMB 1.30
|
||
TrapList 1.12*
|
||
UNzip 0.86
|
||
Yuck! 1.61*
|
||
Zoo 2.00
|
||
|
||
Atari ST
|
||
--------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailer Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
FIDOdoor/ST 1.5c* BinkleyTerm 1.03g3 ConfMail 1.00
|
||
Pandora BBS 2.41c The BOX 1.20 ParseList 1.30
|
||
QuickBBS/ST 0.40 ARC 6.02*
|
||
GS Point 0.61 LHARC 0.51
|
||
LED ST 0.10*
|
||
BYE 0.25*
|
||
PKUNZIP 1.10
|
||
MSGED 1.96S
|
||
SRENUM 6.2
|
||
Trenum 0.10
|
||
OMMM 1.40
|
||
|
||
|
||
Archimedes
|
||
----------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Mailers Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
ARCbbs 1.44* BinkleyTerm 2.03* Unzip 2.1TH
|
||
ARC 1.03
|
||
!Spark 2.00d*
|
||
|
||
ParseLst 1.30
|
||
BatchPacker 1.00*
|
||
|
||
|
||
+ Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
|
||
* Recently changed
|
||
|
||
Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
|
||
reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
|
||
all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 21 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-39 Page 22 24 Sep 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NOTICES
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
The Interrupt Stack
|
||
|
||
|
||
5 Oct 1990
|
||
21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
|
||
|
||
6 Nov 1990
|
||
First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28
|
||
|
||
14 Nov 1990
|
||
Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
|
||
2:332/16.0
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 1991
|
||
Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
|
||
Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.
|
||
|
||
16 Feb 1991
|
||
Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.
|
||
|
||
7 Oct 1991
|
||
Area code 415 fragments. Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
|
||
will begin using area code 510. This includes Oakland,
|
||
Concord, Berkeley and Hayward. San Francisco, San Mateo,
|
||
Marin, parts of Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
|
||
Islands will retain area code 415.
|
||
|
||
1 Feb 1992
|
||
Area code 213 fragments. Western, coastal, southern and
|
||
eastern portions of Los Angeles County will begin using area
|
||
code 310. This includes Los Angeles International Airport,
|
||
West Los Angeles, San Pedro and Whittier. Downtown Los
|
||
Angeles and surrounding communities (such as Hollywood and
|
||
Montebello) will retain area code 213.
|
||
|
||
1 Dec 1993
|
||
Tenth anniversary of Fido Version 1 release.
|
||
|
||
5 Jun 1997
|
||
David Dodell's 40th Birthday
|
||
|
||
|
||
If you have something which you would like to see on this
|
||
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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