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Volume 7, Number 27 2 July 1990
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Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello
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Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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Table of Contents
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1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
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FidoCon '90 Update: ...................................... 1
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Breaking the Cycle of Child Sexual Abuse ................. 3
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Broken Links ............................................. 6
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New Echos ................................................ 9
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Region 11 RC Election .................................... 10
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Labor and Union News Conference .......................... 13
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MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) Echo Availability ............ 15
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Incest Survivors Newsletter .............................. 17
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Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla BBS is Back! .................. 19
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NEW! FidoCon '90 Registration Form ....................... 22
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And more!
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 1 2 Jul 1990
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ARTICLES
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FidoCon '90 Update (7/1):
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If you plan on attending and staying for meals or at the hotel,
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we MUST know whether you're coming by July 1st (that's THIS
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WEEK), as that is our cut-off date for notifying the hotel of
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our 'final' numbers. If you register after that, we cannot
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guarantee you a room or a meal ticket. If necessary, send
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crashmail to 1:1/90@FidoNet.
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Chris Irwin has announced a gigantic give-away at FidoCon! One
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of the prizes at the conference will be a D'Bridge license for
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each member of the lucky winner's net!
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Rumor has it that not only US Robotics will be participating,
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but modem manufacturers Telebit, Unicom, and MicroCom may also
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be there! Stay tuned for further details.
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Zone 1 Coordinator George Peace will be attending and he's
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invited the other amateur networks to participate in a "network
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summit". Details will follow as they become available.
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One of the things that's truly amazing about this conference is
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the fact that people are coming all the way from Europe, Canada,
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and Australia just to attend. This sort of thing makes all the
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work and effort putting on the conference worthwhile.
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Chris Bahr of PC-MAGnet will be making an appearance.
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We are in the process of mailing out the Conference packets to
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all registered attendees. It contains directions to the hotel,
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a map of the area, and a tenative seminar schedule.
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For our adventurous attendees, we have added an optional trip to
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Six Flag's Great Adventure theme park in Jackson, NJ for $30/person.
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And now for the BIG announcement! For a grand prize, we will be
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giving away a "Sysop's Dream" computer system complete with a multi-
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line Continuous mail TBBS/TIMS bbs package (courtesy of eSoft).
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[Those who registered before 5/1 will be given 3 changes in the
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drawings, while those registering before 6/1 will be given 2. If
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you register before July 2nd, publication date of this FidoNews,
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you can also participate in our prize drawings.]
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Please use the updated registration form you'll find in this
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issue of Fidonews. It's headed FIDOCON '90 REGISTRATION FORM.
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Also, please note that the prices listed only apply to those who
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pre-register using the appropriate form. We regret a typo in
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last week's form, the spousal plan is $620, not $670.
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 2 2 Jul 1990
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We hope to see you there!
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Bill VanGlahn, FidoCon '90 committee chairman, 1:1/90 1:107/557
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 3 2 Jul 1990
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Written by: Cathrine J. Foote
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Founder, Brake the Cycle
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San Jose, California
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Input By: John Casselli
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Managing Editor, SIPIS Newsletter
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Assistant Sysop
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Vietnam Veterans Valhalla BBS
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1:143/27 300/1200/9600 HST
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(408) 298-2740
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Every year thousands of children are sexually abused by adults.
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I want to do something about it.
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This summer, I am again participating in BRAKE THE CYCLE, a bike
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ride from San Jose, California to Washington D.C. to raise
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support and funds for local and national treatment and training
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agencies that work with these abused children and their
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families. We are calling the ride "Brake the Cycle", to
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illustrate our cause: breaking the cycle of child sexual abuse.
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Two years ago, "Brake the Cycle" 1988 raised over $30,000.00 for
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this cause. We also delivered a statement signed by 15,000
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people such as yourself to our Representatives in Washington
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D.C. with the message that our communities want child abuse
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stopped. "Brake the Cycle" 1990 hopes to do the same, and with
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your help we can.
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If you would like to be a partner in my effort to take positive
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steps towards breaking the cycle of child sexual abuse, there
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are several ways you can participate. First, sign the
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"Statement of Concern" that we are taking to Washington D.C.
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Second, make a pledge to the ride itself. Donations are tax
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deductible, and 100% of the funds go directly to local and
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national treatment agencies. Third, be a direct contributor to
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the ride expenses. The other riders and I are donating our
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time, energy and personal funds to this project, and it would be
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a great benefit to have help with the expenses. These
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contributions also are tax deductible.
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After you have had time to consider this opportunity, please
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fill out the form and return it to me at the address provided.
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Sincerely,
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/s/ Cathrine J. Foote
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Break the Cycle Founder
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NOTE: The "Statement of Concern" mentioned in Cathrine's letter
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is printed in this article, please make copies and pass them
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around, and it is available by FREQ from the Vietnam Veterans
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Valhalla, 1:143/27, HST 14.4 (408) 298-2740. Use the filename:
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BRAKE.FRM for the request.
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 4 2 Jul 1990
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BRAKE THE CYCLE
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National Ride to Stop Child Sexual Abuse
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Project of Childsong Inc.
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STATEMENT OF CONCERN
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Yes, I want to help break the cycle of child sexual abuse. Every
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family and every community needs to be aware of this problem and
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take steps to prevent it.
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Studies show that reports of child abuse in our county are
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increasing. One girl in four and one boy in seven in the United
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States will be molested before his or her 18th birthday.
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Proper treatment needs to be made available to abused children and
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their families. Public awareness can prevent this crime from being
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committed. I gladly add my name to this statement of concern
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urging the institution and people of the United States to provide
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these funds and the human resources necessary to stop child sexual
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abuse.
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NAME (Please Print) ADDRESS SIGNATURE
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 5 2 Jul 1990
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Please return this Statement of Concern To:
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Brake the Cycle
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1879 Ellen Avenue
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San Jose, California 95125
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VVV-6/29/90
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 6 2 Jul 1990
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Is our Echo Mail Broken?
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And How long has it been this way?
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I think it almost goes with out saying that over 3/4 of the
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Network is bonded together by echos. So when there is a problem
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it is rather upsetting. After a while everybody starts to
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notice and wants to fix it or to see it fixed. *If* possible.
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This is NOT a political article. I do thouth like voting and
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believe it ought to be mandantory that Coordinators
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periodocally allow voting for the chair they hold. Not just
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when it suits thier fancy, but yearly. I also firmly believe
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there should be no Gods as System Operators OR Coordinators.
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And Thou being a coordinator be a thankless job when done right
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they have my extreme thanks. In fact when I think of it -- the
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Cooperative state - it is truely amazing. But the other side of
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the coin is -- that when done irresponsibly it can be a mess
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which almost seems to strecth to infinity. Who do i contact?
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Just how persistant should I get? What does it mean when I get
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no responces? What can i do? Who Cares? I even, for awhile,
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thought about the worst ..Mebbe I will get my link cut for
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even talking about it. Etc...
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I live in Region 18. I am very fortunate because I have two
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Echo sources. So if something is broke and i get no responce
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about getting it fixed, I can go get it from an alternative
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source in another Region. There are many here thou that are
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not as fortunate. This problem has been going on since at
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least a couple of years ago and I do wonder how widespread
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it is.
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I was told two years ago the DND echo was booming in Region 13
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yet not a message ever appeared in Region 18. That started me
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looking! Recently I switched feeds on the IFNA conference (one
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i wanted *before* the vote took place). it went immediately
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from 0 messages to as many as 20 messages a week. It was a bit
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late for getting involved so i turned it off. Another was
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RC_MODELS, The first day I changed feeds i recieved 1 message
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(from reading it I could tell it was a responce to another in
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the echo). Yet in Region 18 not a message filtered in. A Local
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SysOp I supply mail with wanted STARGAZE. Ok, I turn it on from
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my Region 18 source - weeks go by and not a single message. The
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SysOp asks me "what is going on, I read in the ELIST that
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traffic should be 10 messages a week minimum". I tell him post
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a "test" message. He posts, meanwhile the user who wanted it
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calls the Moderators board. The test message is there and even
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responces yet none make it back to Region 18!? An update is
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that the new feed has more messages but when the User calls
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the Moderators Board There is even MORE messages there and
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 7 2 Jul 1990
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some of them Unseen. Why are echos like CAD-CAM called CAD_CAM
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in some Areas and Regions? We have the CHESS Echo Moderator
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right outside of our local calling area. My NEC tells me a very
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unusual story about the Echo Telemate which was not linked.
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Lately I have heard of a SysOp calling asking if he could read
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on the Moderators board. The SysOp then asked if he could pick
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up directly from the Moderator's System. They said messages are
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NOT making it to thier Region. Are we heading Back to "the Old
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Days" - Remember when folks called the Moderator and Picked up
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the Echo. Can YOU afford it! Why do we bother to have a Back-
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Bone if it isn't going to work?
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This has been plauging me. What can *I* do about it?? I thought
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of writing the EC ..mebbe the ZC ...is there any guarentees it
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will be fixed ...or not keep happening again and again. How
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many other places does this happen and no one talks about it?
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How many Echos are broke?? Are links that sensitive? Is some
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one Lying? Is the Mail being Censored? I pick up LD and
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recently when my source asked folks who are picking up there
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for a donation, most of us chipped in a few bucks. Thou WE
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call Ld to pick up the echos... Hell, I even send some in!
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It bothers me that my Source does not respond to my NetMail.
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It bothers me even more that it happens to more than one echo.
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What causes this and what can be done about it? After all this
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Network is part of all of us. It is OUR Network(s). Aint see
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no reason than belonging other than to "share" the Mail!
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I know somebody is going to scream "We need more rules.." Any
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one with the sence of at least a rusty nail will know that
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this is obviously a bunch of %^&# and Rules and Regulations
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are NOT the answer! What is happening is the large echos which
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are very popular are linked but the small specialty echos are
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sorta haphazardly put together ...after all less SysOps would
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notice it and those that do can be easily ignored. ..Well
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think about it ...mebbe they ALL are Broken? how can we tell?
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I have seen local echos go straight to hell when echo
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distribution is done in a irresponsible manner. Just because
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someone has an Echo listed in thier Areas.BBS doesn't mean
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they are linked ..Even If they do have other Net/Nodes listed!!
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I had the pleasure of my Net Coordinator cutting me off with
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out even a word. There were actually two local Echos. Who's to
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say this hasn't happened somewhere on a Regional Level. Could
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it be that someone just cut a link and forgot about it.
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All this really didnt matter when echomail was first
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transmitted. But we do exspect everyone upstream to be honest
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about the links ...right? Infact we depend on the integerity
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of the BackBone Echo Mail Systems and our fellow NetWork
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members. Mebbe it hasnt been working for a long time. Our
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Software can not tell if upstream is together! Take one echo
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 8 2 Jul 1990
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for instance. Notes could be compared on the path and seenbys
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from different parts of the country but that is not to
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guarentee that there are at least a dozen broken links
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somewhere inbetween. Anybody got any ideas on a Utility which
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can help out? Our software is not really designed that way. I
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was talking to a friend in GT Net. Since Gt's Software is so
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much different things are done differently. He told me he can
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send sort of test message that reports routing status back to
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him. It is part of the EchoMail Software. ..Gawd, I wish I was
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a Software writer... This problem is part ALL of our problem!
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After all, What fun is it belonging to a NetWork who boasts
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sharing Free Information that doesn't get sent to active
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participants. Are we sewing the mouth shut on our guest
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speakers?
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by Kenneth "Kevin" Snively
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1:116/24 EET BBS
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1:116/29 the Dawg Byte
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1:116/28 The Nashville HUB System
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 9 2 Jul 1990
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John Bierrie
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Fido 1:322/235
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NEW ECHOS
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I thought I would take this oportunity to anounce that
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there are two new echos available which might be of interest
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to some of you.
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-=R&R=-
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The R&R Echo is an offshoot from the dBase and Clipper
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echos, where discussions concering the use of "Report Writer"
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software for dBase was building. The R&R echo is dedicated to
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discussing the use and implimentation of report writing software
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used by many dBase/Foxbase/DBXL, etc., programmers. This covers
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both commercial and shareware versions and can be of immence
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help to those using these programs. The echo is open to any
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individual with interest in this type of software.
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Symbolic Name (TAG) - R&R
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-=RA_UTIL=-
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The RA_UTIL Echo is dedicated to discussions concerning the
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many "external" programs being written for the Remote Access BBS
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software package. The participants include many of the authors
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of such programs and the discussions range from "problem solving"
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to what is coming in the future. The echo is open to anyone who
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has interest in the external programs written for Remote Access
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and "authors" wishing to discuss and support their programs.
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Symbolic Name (TAG) - RA_UTIL
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 10 2 Jul 1990
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Donn Bly (1:236/7)
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Region 11 RC Election Coordinator
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Region 11 has elected a new RC. A few weeks ago we posted the
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election rules here, and now we are posting the final results.
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Region 11 RC Election Report
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The following is the final tabulation of all votes received by me
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as of the close of the polls on June 30, 1990 at 18:00 EST. To
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the best of my knowledge these results are accurate and complete.
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If there is a question about the validity of vote, please get in
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touch with me IMMEDIATELY via netmail or voice call. My home
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voice number is (219) 925-3474.
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If you voted, and your password is not listed under the candidate
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for which you voted, or your node number is not listed below,
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please contact me IMMEDIATELY.
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So that I did not have to return as many ballots, I relaxed the
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rules slightly -- the outcome of the election is not effected. I
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decided to allow for codewords up to 9 characters instead of 8,
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and I allowed non-alphanumeric characters as well as
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alphanumeric. I also received a request to allow both upper and
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lower case, so when I rewrote the software for the non-
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alphanumerics I made allowances for that too.
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As the documentation below shows, the winner of the RC11 Election
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is Mark Lynch.
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The first salvo of voting achieved the following results:
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Candidates Number Of Votes
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Mark Lynch 58 (39.5%)
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George Kasica 27 (18.4%)
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Ed Almasy 25 (17.0%)
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Bill Huther 23 (15.6%)
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Martin Essenburg 14 ( 9.5%)
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Because no one candidate received a majority of the votes, a run-
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off election was held between the two candidates that received
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the most votes. The full results of the run-off election are as
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follows:
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Candidates Number Of Votes
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Mark Lynch 109 (72.7%)
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George Kasica 41 (27.3%)
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 11 2 Jul 1990
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Breakdown
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Total Nodes Listed : 597
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Total Eligible : 535
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Total Ineligible : 62
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Total Votes : 150
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Return Percentage : 28.037%
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Password Breakdown
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Candidate: Mark Lynch
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ZBUZZARZ
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Candidate: George Kasica
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|
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List of all Nodes Voting
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------------------------
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11/13 11/15 11/16 11/301 11/868 108/10
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108/90 108/111 108/145 108/165 108/255 108/260
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108/350 110/10 110/69 110/101 110/120 110/150
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110/201 110/240 110/270 110/300 110/310 110/350
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110/370 110/380 110/430 115/101 115/333 115/400
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115/439 115/473 115/529 115/639 115/634 115/729
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115/743 115/769 115/777 115/876 115/934 115/989
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120/80 120/102 120/113 120/125 120/151 120/183
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FidoNews 7-27 Page 12 2 Jul 1990
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120/193 120/207 120/209 120/210 120/216 121/4
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139/600 139/630 154/8 154/40 154/69 154/77
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154/111 154/288 154/300 154/350 154/400 154/414
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154/777 154/970 157/511 157/538 157/531 157/533
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159/400 159/725 159/850 226/20 226/40 226/50
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226/60 226/70 226/100 226/110 226/120 226/170
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226/180 226/210 226/220 226/230 226/240 226/260
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226/280 226/290 226/310 226/320 226/330 226/340
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226/370 226/500 226/510 226/520 227/2 228/3
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228/14 228/17 228/21 228/26 228/30 228/31
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228/32 230/5 231/20 231/50 231/60 231/190
|
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231/210 231/230 231/270 231/290 232/6 232/9
|
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232/16 232/18 232/20 233/12 233/16 233/22
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233/69 234/1 234/10 234/14 234/16 234/20
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234/100 236/10 236/12 236/13 237/85 237/500
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237/506 237/507 237/523 238/101 238/102 2200/103
|
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2210/518 2210/558 2210/633 2220/10 2220/20 2220/80
|
||
|
||
The full results of the first vote should be available from your
|
||
NC (if you are in Region 11), and were posted in the REGION11
|
||
conference, just as these results will.
|
||
|
||
As mentioned in the original rules that I posted, a period for
|
||
commenting on the election process has been opened. I have not
|
||
decided how long it will remain open as I have no idea how many
|
||
people have suggestions and how long it will take. If you do
|
||
have any comment, suggestions, etc. I will gratefully accept any
|
||
netmail on the subject at 1:236/7. If there are enough people
|
||
interested in it, an echo may be started to handle the traffic.
|
||
|
||
I wish to take this opportunity to thank all who were involved in
|
||
this process: Steve Bonine for commissioning it as one of his
|
||
final acts as ZC, John Summers for being RC until he had to move
|
||
out of the Region, Rick Moore for acting as interim RC until this
|
||
vote was completed, the candidates who stepped forward and
|
||
offered their services to an often-unthankful network, and George
|
||
Peace, our ZC, who has said that he will accept the results of
|
||
this election as final and appoint the winner to the RC11
|
||
position.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Donn Bly (1:236/7)
|
||
Ex-Region 11 RC Election Coordinator
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 13 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Labor and Union News Conference
|
||
-----------------------------------
|
||
|
||
"The average weekly wage in 1979 was $189.32. In 1988,
|
||
compensating for inflation, it was $168.10, a fall of
|
||
11.2 percent." -- Quote from journalist David Bacon
|
||
|
||
I pulled that out of my quotes file because I thought it
|
||
would be a good introduction to this article. It's a truly
|
||
startling statistic because we all sadly know that grocery
|
||
prices haven't dropped 11.2 percent after inflation!
|
||
|
||
Over the same time period quoted above, we've seen a
|
||
definite drop in union membership in this country. There are
|
||
many reasons for this, the changing economy and labor force
|
||
for one, but one of the biggest reasons has been the corporate
|
||
offensive against organized labor launched in the Reagan years
|
||
and now continuing under the Bush administration.
|
||
|
||
We've seen company after company launch efforts to bust
|
||
their unions and to shift health care costs onto workers
|
||
causing many of the strikes that get reported in the
|
||
corporate-owned mass media.
|
||
|
||
While workers still have the right to strike, the companies
|
||
now force strikes, like the current Greyhound strike that is
|
||
going on now, in order to replace strikers with permanent
|
||
replacement workers -- better known as scabs. Of course it's
|
||
still illegal to fire striking workers, but it's not illegal to
|
||
permanently replace strikers with scabs. Nice little catch-22
|
||
there, huh?
|
||
|
||
And all this effects far more than unionized workers. It
|
||
effects our entire economy and, in particular, all working
|
||
people. In any given profession, unionized workers tend to
|
||
be better paid than non-unionized workers. If the unions
|
||
are suffering and are being forced to take wage and benefit
|
||
cuts, then eventually all workers will be in the same boat.
|
||
|
||
What's the above paragraphs leading up to? I'm glad you
|
||
asked.
|
||
|
||
I'd like to inform you of an echomail conference devoted
|
||
to working-class issues. The conference focuses on labor and
|
||
union news -- things you normally wouldn't hear about in our
|
||
normal corporate-owned mass media. The daily newspaper always
|
||
has a large "business" section devoted to that tiny percentage
|
||
of people who own enough stock in a company to effect the
|
||
company's operation, but it never has a "labor" section
|
||
devoted to the vast majority of people in this country -- the
|
||
working class.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 14 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
The conference's area name is, appropriately enough,
|
||
LABOR_CONFERENCE, and it currently is not distributed on the
|
||
echomail backbone. It has its own distribution system (if you
|
||
could really call it a "system").
|
||
|
||
The conference's moderator is William Bowles at 1:107/607
|
||
and Bill can let you know where to find a link into the echo.
|
||
|
||
The echo consists mainly of news items from various sources
|
||
and has a little conversation. The news tends to be very
|
||
interesting and informative and comes from such sources as
|
||
union newsletters, and other labor-oriented writers. Hopefully
|
||
we'll increase the conversation end of the echo with more
|
||
links and with more participating systems.
|
||
|
||
Solidarity forever and have a good day.
|
||
|
||
Hope to see you in the LABOR_CONFERENCE echo!
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 15 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Jack Decker
|
||
1:154/8
|
||
|
||
MLM (MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING) ECHO AVAILABILITY
|
||
|
||
A few weeks ago I wrote up an article for FidoNews describing
|
||
the MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) Echo. This conference has been
|
||
picking up a bit lately, but I still occasionally hear from
|
||
folks who are having difficulty finding links to it.
|
||
|
||
An inspection of messages entered in the last week or so
|
||
reveals the following net/nodes listed in the PATH lines:
|
||
|
||
102/2 102/803 103/501 124/3207 124/3220 124/4115 13/13 157/200
|
||
236/13 236/7 238/101 265/7 270/101 270/116 343/11 343/300
|
||
|
||
It's quite possible that more nodes may be carrying the
|
||
conference, but no messages have been entered from those nodes
|
||
so they do not appear in the PATH lines. The conference SHOULD
|
||
be available from any backbone feed, since it is carried on the
|
||
Eastern Star. If you absolutely cannot get a feed through your
|
||
regional backbone node, you may wish to see if you can get a
|
||
feed from one of the nodes listed above (but PLEASE check with
|
||
your Regional Echomail Coordinator first, so that "dupe loops"
|
||
can be avoided!).
|
||
|
||
If you (or any of your users) are involved in Multi-Level
|
||
Marketing, or if you have an interest in the topic, you are
|
||
invited to link in. As far as I am aware, there are no links
|
||
to nodes outside of Zone 1 at present, although I did receive
|
||
one request from a sysop in Australia (Kurt Johannessen at
|
||
3:713/610) who wanted the echo via a HST feed. If anyone who
|
||
has an HST (and who is familiar with the requirements for
|
||
sending an echo to another Zone) can provide a feed, your help
|
||
would be appreciated (please send netmail to Kurt directly).
|
||
|
||
For those who missed the original announcement, I will just
|
||
repeat a couple of paragraphs from it: We have started a new
|
||
echo called MLM, the echo for those involved or interested in
|
||
Multi-Level Marketing (sometimes also known as "network
|
||
marketing"). For those of you who are not familiar with the
|
||
phrase "Multi-Level Marketing", this is the method by which a
|
||
large number of products and services are sold nowadays. Some
|
||
of the better-known firms in this field are Amway (home care
|
||
and other products), and A.J. Williams (insurance), but there
|
||
are literally hundreds of firms that utilize this method of
|
||
marketing their products.
|
||
|
||
We expect that those who participate in the MLM echo will agree
|
||
that Multi-Level Marketing is a valid and responsible method of
|
||
marketing products. HOWEVER, we also recognize that there are
|
||
irresponsible people who try to use MLM as a "cover" for
|
||
illegal pyramid schemes, but that does not detract from the
|
||
fact that MLM itself is a very valid method of selling products
|
||
or services direct to the customer, that has been utilized for
|
||
years. Those who disagree, or who feel that _all_ MLM activity
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 16 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
is a scam of some type, should not be participating in this
|
||
echo.
|
||
|
||
Everyone else is welcome and if your are interested in the
|
||
topic, please link in to the MLM conference!
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 17 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Incest Survivors Newsletter
|
||
|
||
By: John Casselli
|
||
Managing Editor, SIPIS Newsletter
|
||
Assistant Sysop
|
||
Vietnam Veterans Valhalla BBS
|
||
1:143/27 300/1200/9600 HST
|
||
(408) 298-2740
|
||
|
||
I am writing to announce a couple of important events which I am
|
||
quite proud of. As a member of Parents United, Inc. (PU), and
|
||
AMACU (Adults Molested as Children, Inc), a component of PU, in
|
||
San Jose, California, I have become quite involved in trying to
|
||
break the cycle of child sexual abuse in this country. The
|
||
statistics are astounding. This disease is in a rampage and has
|
||
struck nearly every, if not all, families in this country. I am
|
||
convinced that public awareness - education - is the key to
|
||
breaking this cycle. It CAN prevent this crime from being
|
||
committed. To this end, I have created and am now proud to
|
||
announce the first issue of SIPIS (Singleness in Purpose -
|
||
Incest Survivors), named after a SIP echo conference if the same
|
||
name (I hope they don't mind stealing their name but it gets the
|
||
point across in a no-nonsense fashion).
|
||
|
||
SIPIS is a newsletter written *by*, *about* and *for* incest
|
||
survivors and others who are interested in trying to do
|
||
something to prevent this from happening to other children. One
|
||
in four girls and one in seven boys will be molested before they
|
||
reach the age of eighteen in this country alone, and that is
|
||
intolerable. Only *you* can make a difference by making your
|
||
feelings known, and getting involved. SIPIS is file requestable
|
||
(HST 14.4) from 1:143/27 at (408) 298-2740 anytime but NMH under
|
||
the magic filename SIPIS.
|
||
|
||
I am also looking for people who want to become part of this
|
||
*first* electronically compiled and distributed newsletter on
|
||
the subject of child sexual abuse. You can help in several
|
||
ways. First, by participating in the SIP_INCEST echo
|
||
conference, also available from the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla if
|
||
you cannot find it locally. Second, by contributing articles
|
||
related to child sexual abuse to me at 1:143/27, or by mailing
|
||
them to:
|
||
|
||
Vietnam Veterans Valhalla, Inc.
|
||
SIPIS Managing Editor
|
||
1016 E. El Camino Real
|
||
Suite 331
|
||
Sunnyvale, CA. 94087
|
||
|
||
Third, you can become a part of the SIPIS *team* by volunteering
|
||
to become a section editor. I need your help, the success of
|
||
this vitally important newsletter is up to those of you who
|
||
care. To give you an idea of what the market for such a
|
||
publication is, the Vietnam Veterans Valhalla was *inundated*
|
||
with requests for the first newsletter during the first week
|
||
after it's release. There were 327 File requests, and another
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 18 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
35 individual downloads in *one week*!!! This was totally
|
||
unexpected but served to convince me I am doing the right thing!
|
||
|
||
Please help!?
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 19 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
VIETNAM VETERANS' VALHALLA
|
||
Todd C. Looney
|
||
-SYSOP-
|
||
FidoNet Node 1:143/27
|
||
300/1200/2400/9600 Bauds
|
||
22 Hours a day/365 Days a Year
|
||
BBS (408) 298-2740
|
||
|
||
"In the jungles of 'Nam, some of us were scared and wary, but we
|
||
pulled one another along and were able to depend on each other.
|
||
That has never changed.
|
||
Today, free of the criticisms and misunderstandings many veterans
|
||
have endured, the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla is a ray of hope,
|
||
and a reminder that the lessons learned at such a high price
|
||
shall not be forgotten, nor the errors repeated!!!"
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla bulletin board started back when
|
||
"Fido" was the only BBS software available for hobbyists and the
|
||
like. Since that time over 40,000 calls have been made to our
|
||
system which indicates to us that there is an expansive need for
|
||
such a service as we provide. The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla is
|
||
back online again after being down for a year. We have a new
|
||
computer and a HST 14.4 modem from USR to make long distance
|
||
calling a little less painful.
|
||
|
||
When the Valhalla started back in early 1986, the only other
|
||
veteran-related conferencing service was through CompuServe.
|
||
Since then veteran-related BBS systems have sprung up all over
|
||
the world and we help each other to grow through a kind of
|
||
unofficial "VetNet". For a complete list of BBS systems
|
||
comprising the VetNet, simply file request the magic filename
|
||
VETNET from the Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla, 1:143/27.
|
||
|
||
Also through this VetNet we disseminate what has become one of
|
||
the most popular backbone echo's available, the International
|
||
Vietnam Veterans EchoConference (IVVEC), titled VIETNAM_VETS.
|
||
Although the conference originated here at the Vietnam Veterans'
|
||
Valhalla, it is Co-moderated by G. Joseph Peck, President of
|
||
Berkshire Vet Center in Pittsfield, MA, who also sysops VETLink
|
||
#1, 1:321/203, (413-443-6313, 300/1200/2400/9600 bauds).
|
||
|
||
Together, Joe Peck and I created and manage a monthly publication
|
||
dedicated to Vietnam Veterans called the "NAM VET Newsletter".
|
||
During my absence, Joe and others have built the NAM VET into the
|
||
pillar of information it is today. The NAM VET has grown from a
|
||
tiny newsletter into a 100 page per month publication of vital
|
||
importance to Vietnam veterans and non-veterans alike. Topics of
|
||
interest addressed in each issue, and their section editors are:
|
||
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 20 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
|
||
Kathleen Kelly, Ph.D.
|
||
The New York Transfer BBS - Staten Island, NY
|
||
(718) 448-2358
|
||
|
||
AGENT ORANGE
|
||
Martin H. Kroll
|
||
Fort Mountain BBS - Chatsworth, Ga. 30705
|
||
(404) 695-8703
|
||
|
||
MIA-POW
|
||
Rick Stolz
|
||
Okauchee, Wisconsin
|
||
VETLink #1 BBS - Pittsfield, MA
|
||
(413) 443-6313
|
||
-and-
|
||
Glenn Toothman
|
||
The Commo Bunker BBS - Karnes County, TX
|
||
VetPoint 8 (1:321/203.8) & FidoNet 1:387/801
|
||
|
||
HOMELESSNESS
|
||
Lefty Frizzell
|
||
The Executive Washroom BBS - San Antonio, TX
|
||
(713) 347-2588
|
||
|
||
FEDERAL BENEFITS
|
||
Jim Hildwine
|
||
VetPoint 47 - FidoNet 1:321/203.47
|
||
Shady Side, Md
|
||
|
||
INCARCERATED VETS
|
||
Todd C. Looney
|
||
Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla - San Jose, CA
|
||
(408) 298-2740
|
||
-and-
|
||
Joyce Flory
|
||
Desert Dolphin BBS - Las Cruces, NM
|
||
(505) 523-2811
|
||
|
||
MEMORIALS
|
||
Aaron Schmiedel
|
||
Chai Way BBS - Dallas, TX
|
||
(214) 239-4368
|
||
|
||
MEMORIES
|
||
G. Joseph Peck
|
||
VETLink #1 BBS - Pittsfield, MA
|
||
(413) 443-6313
|
||
|
||
IN-TOUCH
|
||
Ray "Frenchy" Moreau
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 21 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Herndon Byte Exchange BBS - Herndon, VA
|
||
(703) 471-8010
|
||
|
||
CHAPLAIN
|
||
Rev. Ed Brant
|
||
The Landing Zone BBS - Fall Creek, OR
|
||
(503) 747-9809
|
||
|
||
The NAM VET Newsletter is available through file request at any
|
||
of the BBS systems listed above using the magic filename NAMVET.
|
||
(At least I think that they all use that magic filename, if not,
|
||
please excuse my error, I did *not* check with them first. Best
|
||
to request FILES from their systems first to get a list of
|
||
available files. I believe the International Vietnam Veterans'
|
||
EchoConference (IVVEC) is available for viewing at all of these
|
||
systems as well.
|
||
|
||
The Vietnam Veterans' Valhalla also has a collection of veteran-
|
||
related text files for you to read. Just file request the magic
|
||
filename FILES to get a complete list of those files which are
|
||
available on this system.
|
||
|
||
The Valhalla has taken on a different perspective this year from
|
||
when you might last have been on that system. It has expanded
|
||
the scope of its services to include overall RECOVERY, and hosts
|
||
a wide variety of such topic-related echo conferences and files.
|
||
|
||
I certainly hope to be "seeing" you at the Vietnam Veterans'
|
||
Valhalla soon. And please be sure to leave me a note when you
|
||
stop by.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 22 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Secret Sysop Society presents __
|
||
*** Conclave '90 *** / \
|
||
The SYSOPS Convention /|oo \
|
||
Home of FidoCon 1990 (_| /_)
|
||
Lyndhurst, New Jersey _`@/_ \ _
|
||
August 1-5, 1990 | | \ \\
|
||
| (*) | \ ))
|
||
______ |__U__| / \//
|
||
/ Fido \ _//|| _\ /
|
||
(________) (_/(_|(____/ (tm)
|
||
|
||
Rate Plan Schedule: (Hotel rooms cannot be guaranteed if you
|
||
register after July 1st!)
|
||
A. Single Occupancy...................$545.00
|
||
B. Double Occupancy...................$400.00
|
||
C. Conference w/ meals................$250.00
|
||
D. Conference w/ Banquet..............$105.00
|
||
E. Conference only.....................$75.00
|
||
F. Banquet only........................$30.00
|
||
G. Registrant & Spouse................$670.00
|
||
|
||
Plans A B & G include all conference and hotel fees and meals.
|
||
Prices are for pre-registrants using this form only.
|
||
|
||
You must pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card. Please send
|
||
no cash. All monies must be in U.S. Funds. Checks should be
|
||
made out to: "Conclave '90"
|
||
|
||
The following registration form must be completed and mailed to:
|
||
PO Box 12
|
||
Lyndhurst, NJ 07071
|
||
|
||
You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/90 for
|
||
processing. Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone
|
||
number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number. US Mail
|
||
confirmation is required within 72 hours of electronic filing.
|
||
|
||
If you are paying by credit card, please include the required
|
||
information. For your own security, do not route any message
|
||
with your credit card number on it. Crash it directly to 1:1/90.
|
||
|
||
The official Conclave '90 airline is American Airlines.
|
||
American offers a 5% discount the lowest applicable round-trip
|
||
fare, including 1st class travel, subject to availability of
|
||
inventory. All fare rules and restrictions apply. In addition,
|
||
American offers 40% off their round trip unrestricted day coach
|
||
fare. International travelers qualify for special benefits,
|
||
including complimentary admittance to the Admiral's Club Lounge
|
||
at any American Airlines terminal. Newark is an American Air-
|
||
lines city with direct flights to most major cities. When making
|
||
reservations, you must call American's Toll-free reservation
|
||
number at 800-433-1790, and reference Star number 13704F.
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 23 2 Jul 1990
|
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||
|
||
F I D O - C O N '90 R E G I S T R A T I O N F O R M
|
||
|
||
Name: __________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
Address: _____________________________ Apt. or Suite: _________
|
||
|
||
City: _________________________ State or Province: ____________
|
||
|
||
Postal Code: __________________ Country: ______________________
|
||
|
||
Voice Phone: ______________________ Data: _____________________
|
||
|
||
Zone:Net/Node.Point@Domain: ____________________________________
|
||
|
||
Special requirements: __________________________________________
|
||
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| Option | Full | | Pre-Reg. | Line |
|
||
|(Choose 1: A-G)| Name | Qty | Pricing | Total |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN A** | | | $545.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN B** | | | $400.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN C | | | $250.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN D | | | $105.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN E | | | $ 75.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN F | | | $ 30.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN G** | | | $670.00 | |
|
||
+===============+=====================+=====+==========+=======+
|
||
|*NJ Beach Trip | | | $ 24.50 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
|*Eve. NYC Tour | | | $ 37.50 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
|*NYC Shop Tour | | | $ 36.50 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
|*Medieval Times| | | $ 50.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
** includes registration, Hotel, and meals | Total $ | |
|
||
* Requires Pre-registration (before 7/1) +==========+=======+
|
||
|
||
MC _____ Visa _____ Card Number: _____________________________
|
||
|
||
Expiration: ___________ Signature _____________________________
|
||
( Credit card registrations require valid signature )
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 24 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
FidoCon '91 -- The New Beginning
|
||
Zone 1 Region Coordinators
|
||
Zone 1 Zone Coordinator
|
||
|
||
The Region Coordinators of FidoNet Zone 1 continue to respect the
|
||
results of the "IFNA dissolution referendum".
|
||
|
||
We also respect Tom Jennings' revocation of IFNA's right to use
|
||
trademarks and logos registered to Fido Software (FidoNet and the
|
||
Fido logo). Tom Jennings has granted the Zone 1 Region
|
||
Coordinators the right of continued use of the Registered
|
||
Trademarks.
|
||
|
||
The vote to dissolve IFNA as well as the [IFNA] trademark
|
||
revocation make the 1990 Zone 1 FidoCon event the last one
|
||
possible by authority of IFNA. But FidoCon, a celebration of
|
||
FidoNet History and Tradition, will continue.
|
||
|
||
The FidoNet Zone 1 Region Coordinators (RCs) invite you to submit
|
||
proposals to sponsor and host the Zone 1 FidoCon '91, "The New
|
||
Beginning". Please submit your individual or Net proposal to any
|
||
Zone 1 RC before July 18. A committee of Zone 1 RCs will select a
|
||
primary and backup site from proposals submitted. Please contact
|
||
any Zone 1 RC for information and assistance with your proposal.
|
||
|
||
Each year, several excellent proposals are eliminated through the
|
||
selection process. 1990 was no exception. Those dormant proposals
|
||
are some of the ones we hope you will resubmit for 1991. Let's
|
||
not let all that good effort be wasted. We're asking you to "show
|
||
us what you've got" so we can evaluate a variety of completed and
|
||
in-progress proposals and make a selection without geographic
|
||
bias.
|
||
|
||
The primary and backup sites of the Zone 1 FidoCon '91 will be
|
||
announced in FidoNews on Monday, July 30, 1990.
|
||
|
||
Start thinking about your FidoCon '92 proposal. It's not that far
|
||
off.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 25 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
COLUMNS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Henry Clark
|
||
124/6120
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Big Demo --
|
||
|
||
One of the large Long Distance phone companies is coming in for
|
||
a demo of two big switches, which I have a small part in. One
|
||
system is a 45 megabit digital switch, bandwidth suitable for
|
||
video switching. Now why does that interest them ? Running on
|
||
a little laptop buried in a cabinet somewhere is a program I
|
||
wrote which commands the switch routing processor to route the
|
||
video signals differently. For the demo, it changes the
|
||
routing between a camera, a VCR, a CD player and a test pattern
|
||
generator to eight TV monitors.
|
||
|
||
The other system is a 1.54 megabit digital switch, bandwidth
|
||
suitable for voice channel switching. Carried on the channel
|
||
is 4 kilobits of statistical data, which is gathered by my
|
||
programs on PC and displayed in fancy colors on the screen.
|
||
The significant part is that these two systems are standing
|
||
side by side, and customer came in to see both.
|
||
|
||
The business of long distance ( read nonlocal ) carriers will
|
||
change depending upon the restrictions placed on your local
|
||
carrier in terms of "who can transport what". What we are
|
||
looking at is the ability to 'dial' into any video source,
|
||
similar to the way we dial into voice and data sources.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Buried Cable --
|
||
|
||
The phone companies are going to take over the cable TV
|
||
operations in this country and I'll tell you why. A review of
|
||
the history of these natural monopolies would have to start
|
||
with the baby boom of the '60s.
|
||
|
||
All these young'uns have finally gotten their houses built and
|
||
the housing market is starting to fall off, simply because
|
||
there are fewer buyers out there. I can see no possibility of
|
||
this trend changing for at least 20 years, probably more like
|
||
30. This falloff leaves the phone companies with little room
|
||
for expansion, so they have to look elsewhere for new business.
|
||
|
||
The phone company expansion that did occur was in the areas of
|
||
buried cable and local switching equipment. They were quite
|
||
peeved to see the cable TV companies burying their cable along
|
||
the same lines. Cable TV has quite a way to go before they
|
||
have saturated the market. Everyone has a phone, only about
|
||
17% of households have cable TV connections. Add to this the
|
||
fact that phone companies have buried twisted pair, and cable
|
||
TV companies have buried coax.
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 26 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Now we have optical fiber. No one disputes it's superiority
|
||
over copper. The dispute is over who gets to bury the optical
|
||
fiber cable in your back yard. When you finally do get fiber,
|
||
you have all the bandwidth you need on the one cable for both
|
||
phone, data ( ISDN style ), television and anything else you
|
||
can think of. And you will only need ONE fiber. Even if 20
|
||
years from now, something better comes along, YOU will not
|
||
need any extra bandwidth.
|
||
|
||
In exchange for the privilege of being your only
|
||
communications company, you extract certain restrictions from a
|
||
natural monopoly. You get to force reduced profits and specify
|
||
minimum levels of service. ( Sounds a lot like echomail, doesn't
|
||
it ? )
|
||
|
||
Who's going to win the opportunity to dig up your yard ( again
|
||
) ? I believe it will be the phone companies, because they
|
||
have the better administrative systems and more financial
|
||
resources. They are waging this battle in congress right now.
|
||
|
||
Our systems will become the terminals of a worldwide network
|
||
which carries all communications traffic. The regional
|
||
carriers will provide the administrative services and local
|
||
routing. The long distance carriers will provide the backbone
|
||
services. Network television will operate similar to the 1-800
|
||
toll free number. Pay channels on your TV will be billed the
|
||
same as pay phone calls. This trend will become worldwide.
|
||
|
||
Welcome to the 21st century.
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 27 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Dave Thompson
|
||
1:18/60
|
||
|
||
Well, Vince, you asked for opinions concerning the subject
|
||
article. I have heard a lot of complaints about lack of interest
|
||
in network issues, so I will respond.
|
||
|
||
When I first scanned issue 7.23 of FidoNews, I skipped over the
|
||
High Mesa Publishing (HMP) article without a thought. I am not
|
||
very sensitive to the no solicitations clause in Policy 4.
|
||
Therefore, I never thought about the article. After reading Jim
|
||
Dailey's letter, and your response, I decided to reread and think
|
||
about the text.
|
||
|
||
Publication of solicitious material is a two-edged sword. On one
|
||
hand, it alerts possible consumers (many of us in FidoNet will be
|
||
interested) to the product. On the other hand, it sets a
|
||
precedent for further solicitations. I would not like to see
|
||
FidoNews become a weekly trading paper similar to those available
|
||
locally.
|
||
|
||
From the first perspective, I see nothing offensive in the HMP
|
||
article. The material is clearly of interest to FidoNet sysops
|
||
and users. In fact, there may be many FidoNet participants who
|
||
will provide text for inclusion in the diskazine and disk-based
|
||
books. I think this is a good use for FidoNews.
|
||
|
||
From the second point of view, how will you determine whether the
|
||
next solicitation is appropriate for publication? As I said
|
||
before, FidoNews is not a weekly trader's paper. I doubt that
|
||
any of us want it to become one, too.
|
||
|
||
One possible solution is to charge for advertising from
|
||
commercial ventures. If the submission requirements and fees are
|
||
set appropriately, then inclusion of commercial advertisements
|
||
would pay for distribution of FidoNews. Of course, I have no
|
||
idea how you would distribute any money received.
|
||
|
||
To summarize, this is a thin line to walk. I would like to see
|
||
similar material, because I am interested in such things. If you
|
||
can control this, everything will be fine. Furthermore, this
|
||
case is very clear. If the next one is similar, then you should
|
||
publish it as well. However, what will you do when an article
|
||
appears which treats a subject not so obviously of general
|
||
interest? I would not like to see advertisements for deodorant!
|
||
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 28 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 29 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
LATEST VERSIONS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Latest Software Versions
|
||
|
||
MS-DOS Systems
|
||
--------------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
DMG 2.93* Phoenix 1.3 TAG 2.5e*
|
||
Fido 12s+ QuickBBS 2.64* TBBS 2.1
|
||
Lynx 1.30 RBBS 17.3A* TComm/TCommNet 3.4
|
||
Kitten 2.16 RBBSmail 17.3A* Telegard 2.5*
|
||
Maximus 1.00 RemoteAccess .03* TPBoard 6.1*
|
||
Opus 1.12+* SLBBS 1.76* Wildcat! 2.10
|
||
PCBoard 14.2*
|
||
|
||
Network Node List Other
|
||
Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version
|
||
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.30 EditNL 4.00 ARC 6.02
|
||
D'Bridge 1.30 MakeNL 2.20 ARCAsim 2.30*
|
||
Dutchie 2.90C ParseList 1.30 ARCmail 2.07
|
||
FrontDoor 1.99c* Prune 1.40 ConfMail 4.00
|
||
PRENM 1.47 SysNL 3.11 Crossnet v1.5*
|
||
SEAdog 4.51b XlatList 2.90 EMM 2.02
|
||
TIMS 1.0(Mod8)* XlaxDiff 2.35* Gmail 2.05
|
||
XlaxNode 2.35* GROUP 2.16
|
||
GUS 1.30
|
||
INTERPCB 1.20*
|
||
LHARC 1.13
|
||
MSG 4.1*
|
||
MSGED 1.99
|
||
PK[UN]ZIP 1.10*
|
||
QM 1.0
|
||
QSORT 4.03
|
||
Sirius 1.0w*
|
||
SLMAIL 1.35*
|
||
StarLink 1.01
|
||
TagMail 2.20
|
||
TCOMMail 2.2
|
||
Telemail 1.20*
|
||
TMail 1.15
|
||
TPBNetEd 3.2
|
||
TosScan 1.00*
|
||
UFGATE 1.03
|
||
XRS 3.20*
|
||
ZmailQ 1.10
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 30 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Macintosh
|
||
---------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Red Ryder Host v2.1b10 Tabby 2.2 MacArc 0.04
|
||
Mansion 7.15 Copernicus 1.0d* ArcMac 1.3
|
||
WWIV (Mac) 3.0 StuffIt 1.51
|
||
FBBS 0.91* TImport 1.331
|
||
Hermes 0.88* TExport 1.32
|
||
Timestamp 1.6
|
||
Tset 1.3
|
||
Import 3.2
|
||
Export 3.21
|
||
Sundial 3.2
|
||
PreStamp 3.2
|
||
OriginatorII 2.0
|
||
AreaFix 1.6
|
||
Mantissa 3.21
|
||
Zenith 1.5
|
||
UNZIP 1.02b
|
||
|
||
Amiga
|
||
-----
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Paragon 2.06+ BinkleyTerm 1.00 AmigArc 0.23
|
||
TrapDoor 1.50* AReceipt 1.5*
|
||
WelMat 0.35 booz 1.01
|
||
ConfMail 1.10
|
||
ChameleonEdit 0.10
|
||
ElectricHerald1.66*
|
||
Lharc 1.10
|
||
MessageFilter 1.52*
|
||
oMMM 1.49b
|
||
ParseLst 1.30
|
||
PkAX 1.00
|
||
PK[UN]ZIP 1.01
|
||
PolyxAmy 2.02*
|
||
RMB 1.30
|
||
TrapList 1.12*
|
||
UNzip 0.86
|
||
Yuck! 1.61*
|
||
Zoo 2.00
|
||
|
||
Atari ST
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 31 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
--------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailer Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
FIDOdoor/ST 1.5c* BinkleyTerm 1.03g3 ConfMail 1.00
|
||
Pandora BBS 2.41c The BOX 1.20 ParseList 1.30
|
||
QuickBBS/ST 0.40 ARC 6.02*
|
||
GS Point 0.61 LHARC 0.51
|
||
PKUNZIP 1.10
|
||
MSGED 1.96S
|
||
SRENUM 6.2
|
||
Trenum 0.10
|
||
OMMM 1.40
|
||
|
||
|
||
Archimedes
|
||
----------
|
||
|
||
BBS Software Mailers Utilities
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
ARCbbs 1.44* BinkleyTerm 2.03* Unzip 2.1TH
|
||
ARC 1.03
|
||
!Spark 2.00d*
|
||
|
||
ParseLst 1.30
|
||
BatchPacker 1.00*
|
||
|
||
|
||
+ Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
|
||
* Recently changed
|
||
|
||
Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
|
||
reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
|
||
all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 32 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NOTICES
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
The Interrupt Stack
|
||
|
||
|
||
14 Jul 1990
|
||
Start of Eurocon / Techcon conference in Antwerp, Belgium.
|
||
Please note that the date has changed: The conferences are
|
||
one day later than originally planned !
|
||
|
||
15 Jul 1990
|
||
Michael Keller, sysop of 1:170/401, will be wedded to Ruby Morain.
|
||
|
||
27 Jul 1990
|
||
The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in
|
||
the Columbia Gorge, Oregon. For details contact Ken Zwaschka,
|
||
1:105/54.
|
||
|
||
1 Aug 1990
|
||
Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for
|
||
details.
|
||
|
||
17 Aug 1990
|
||
Start of first ever Searchlight SysOps convention in Chicago, IL.
|
||
Contact Marge Robbins at 1:283/120 for details.
|
||
|
||
5 Oct 1990
|
||
21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
|
||
|
||
6 Nov 1990
|
||
First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28
|
||
|
||
14 Nov 1990
|
||
Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
|
||
2:332/16.0
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 1991
|
||
Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
|
||
Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.
|
||
|
||
16 Feb 1991
|
||
Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.
|
||
|
||
7 Oct 1991
|
||
Area code 415 fragments. Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
|
||
will begin using area code 510. This includes Oakland,
|
||
Concord, Berkeley and Hayward. San Francisco, San Mateo,
|
||
Marin, parts of Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
|
||
Islands will retain area code 415.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-27 Page 33 2 Jul 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
1 Feb 1992
|
||
Area code 213 fragments. Western, coastal, southern and
|
||
eastern portions of Los Angeles County will begin using area
|
||
code 310. This includes Los Angeles International Airport,
|
||
West Los Angeles, San Pedro and Whittier. Downtown Los
|
||
Angeles and surrounding communities (such as Hollywood and
|
||
Montebello) will retain area code 213.
|
||
|
||
5 Jun 1997
|
||
David Dodell's 40th Birthday
|
||
|
||
|
||
If you have something which you would like to see on this
|
||
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
|