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Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello
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Table of Contents
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1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
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FidoCon '90 Update! ...................................... 1
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Environment: A Cooperative Topical Database .............. 2
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The Christian Distribution Network (CDN) ................. 9
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File Echos & Support Group NetWorks ...................... 11
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RULES FOR CURMUDGEON TOSS . . . at the Region 17 Conven .. 14
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SIGN FRIENDS-A Sign Language Tutorial .................... 16
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FIDOCON 1990 REGISTRATION FORM ........................... 18
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2. COLUMNS .................................................. 21
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Talk Me Through It, Honey ................................ 21
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3. LATEST VERSIONS .......................................... 24
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And more!
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ARTICLES
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What's new with FidoCon '90:
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Well, the first discount deadline has passed, however, if you
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get your registrations in before June 1st, you can STILL save
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$50 on the conference fees! Send your application (included in
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this issue of FidoNews) to 1/90@FidoNet.
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If you can't pay for the entire conference all at once, don't
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forget that you can reserve your discount by sending in a non-
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refundable deposit of $100.
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Phil Becker will be attending FidoCon, and will be talking about
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TBBS, TDBS, and his latest creation, The Integrated Mail System
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for TBBS, or TIMS, which gives multi-line TBBS systems
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continuous mail capability!
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Thom Henderson will also be giving a seminar on several of
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System Enhancement Associates' products, as well as a look to
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the future for SEA.
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Jack Rickard of BoardWatch Magazine will be there!
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US Robotics will make their usual appearence at the convention,
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and will have several announcements for future USR products!
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Good Egg Net has also announced that their national convention
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will be held at Conclave '90, making the fourth amateur network
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to participate!
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Bit Bucket Software is also going to participate, though details
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are not yet available at this time.
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With all the early registrations, this FidoCon looks to be the
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biggest ever, so be sure to get your reservations in soon!
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Bill VanGlahn, FIDOCON '90 Committee Chairman
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1:1/90@FidoNet
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 2 21 May 1990
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William J.Bradley. (1:163/223)
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THE WORLD WE LIVE IN
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A couple of nights ago as I drove up to the farmhouse
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in that I share with my wife and five sons, I was struck by the
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beauty of the sunset that was in progress at the time. It remind-
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ed me of when I was a boy delivering the morning newspaper when
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many mornings began with such a beautiful sunrise that I often
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wished that it would never end.
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We live in such a beautiful world and in the intervening
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45 years since my boyhood sunrises and my more recent sunsets,
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we have managed to do terrible things to this lovely gift of
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creation. All of us who live in N.America have had a part in the
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problems that have developed. For example, most of us own, use
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or drive vehicles that don't run on hay and you can't eat when
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you are finished with them. Most of us also, in this part of the
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world, wear synthetic clothing that burns with the ferocity of
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petrochemicals and with the same smell and polluting ability.
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(We had to find all-cotton Tee shirts for one of our sons who
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was in a body brace. Such Tee shirts were almost impossible to
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find. A friend visiting overseas finally brought some home for
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us!) Finally, as I sit here writing this article on my PC, some-
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thing is burning or radiating somewhere, to give me the power
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to use this computer. As the power is produced, so is waste that
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someone, somewhere has to figure out how to get rid of.
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Most of my life has been spent in a health technology of
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one sort or another. About two years ago I left that work to go
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into analytical laboratory work. I am now a project coordinator
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for an organic and inorganic analytical laboratory that spends
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a lot of its time doing environmental analyses for government and
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industry. It has been through this work that the idea for
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this project developed.
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Some of the pictures that come to mind when I think of
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the word "environment" and "environmentalist" are ones of either
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confrontation or of 'doom and gloom'. The confrontation is often
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with large organizations and the 'doom-and-gloomers' are often
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scientists. Yet when you look at the daily press a little more
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closely you often find quite a lot of people struggling with day
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to day environmental problems and often finding useful solutions.
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For example I live in a small rural community and haul
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my trash to a small local dumpsite. About two years ago the
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Ministry of the Environment stopped municipalities from burning
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off the refuse in their dumpsites. That was fair enough as
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burning only moves the dump to another site via the air that we
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need to breathe and live. However the consequence has been that
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the dump filled with astonishing rapidity and will close in
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another two months. In its place there will be a door to door
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pick up, throughout the county, by a contractor. Whoever wins
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the contract will have to prove by sub-contracts, that he has
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a recycling destination for most of the refuse. The householders
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 3 21 May 1990
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will then be expected to sort all of their trash into various
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categories such as glass, tin, paper and plastics etc..
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Then there were the two families that were featured on
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a TV program who hardly have need of garbage pick-up at all. The
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last time one lady used the garbage service was six weeks before
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the filming of the TV program. The other lady could not remember
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when she had used the garbage collection service. Both of these
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women had organized their households in such a way that every-
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thing was re-used and composted.
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Some people will not use disposable diapers. A hundred
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years from now an Archeologist specializing in our dumpsites
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will be digging up the outer wrappings of Junior's diaper. In
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the same way you read of people who will not use styrofoam cups
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or patronize take-out food businesses that package their food
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in styrofoam containers.
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All of this sparked my interest and I began clipp-
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ing environmental articles out of the newspapers. Then I categ-
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orized them, paraphrased them, (Wrote a short description of the
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article.) put them on a database and sorted them. The result of
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this effort was fascinating reading. When I described this exper-
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ience to friends and clients alike, they expressed an interest
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in seeing something like what I had done, put out on a regular
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basis.
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Having given it a lot of thought, what I would like to
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do is establish a database of clipped newpaper articles, on the
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environment, from as wide an area as possible. This desire then,
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leads me to all of you who participate in the worldwide FIDO
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network. What I would like to ask of you is this:
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1. Would you be interested in clipping articles
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from your local newspaper and sending them
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to me. When you clip them I will need:
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a. Name of the newspaper
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b. Page number
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c. Date of publication
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2. Having clipped the article, would you be inter-
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ested in helping out further by writing a 4 to
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5 line paraphrase (description) of the article.
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(AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG PLEASE, I AM
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ALLOWED TO PUBLISH THE DESCRIPTION OF AN ARTICLE (A PARAPHRASE),
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AS LONG AS I SUPPLY DETAILS OF THE SOURCE.)
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Once the database was established I would do a number
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of things with it:
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 4 21 May 1990
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A. The database in its entirety would be offered for use
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to all who participate in the FIDO network.
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B. Establish a non-profit organization to offer the use of
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the database to private individuals, industry and govern-
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ment, anywhere in the world who may wish to use it. The
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indications I have at the moment are that such database
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would be welcomed. In this latter instance a fee would be
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charged. This project will consume a lot of time and will
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require people to work at it full time, so it will need to
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earn enough to pay its own way.
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At the present time there is a start-up committee of two
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Ph.D. level scientists. A Ph.D. level university professor
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who teaches economic ethics, a businessman who manufactures
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laboratory products and myself.
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Following are the categories that I have used so far,
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any further suggestions would be appreciated. After the categ-
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ories you will see a few examples of paraphrased clippings.
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We are all, each and every one of us, contributors to
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the environment that we live, therefore we all have a respons-
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ibility - each in his or her own way - to contribute what we can
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to improve the health of that environment and in this way, the
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health of us all. So get out the scissors.......! You can reach
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me by post at the following addresses:
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William J. Bradley,
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Box 330,
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Chesterville, Ontario
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Canada K0C 1H0.
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or
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William J. Bradley,
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c/o Solar Biologicals Inc.,
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Box 269,
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Ogdensburg, NY, 13669.
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or
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William J. Bradley,
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c/o CHANNEL-23 Communications
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Box 357,
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Orleans, Ontario
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Canada K1C 1S7
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CLASSIFICATIONS
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 5 21 May 1990
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ENVIRONMENT ....................... 10E
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HEALTH............................. 20H
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POLLUTION.......................... 30P
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- Acid Rain........................ 30PAR
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- Air........... .................. 30PA
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- Dumping.......................... 30PD
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- Fines & Convictions.............. 30PFC
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- Food............................. 30PF
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- Fresh Water...................... 30PFW
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- Global Warming................... 30PG
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- Hazardous Waste.................. 30PH
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- Industrial....................... 30PI
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- Land............................. 30PL
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- Oil Spill........................ 30POS
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- Pesticides....................... 30PP
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- Pulp Mills....................... 30PPM
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- Sea.............................. 30PS
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- Toxic Spill...................... 30PT
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POPULATION......................... 40P
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RESOURCES.......................... 50R
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- Agriculture...................... 50RA
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- Animal........................... 50RAN
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- Energy........................... 50RE
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- Forest........................... 50RF
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- Fresh Water...................... 50RFW
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- Land............................. 50RL
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- Sea.............................. 50RS
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- Underground...................... 50RU
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TRANSPORTATION..................... 60T
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WASTE MANAGEMENT................... 70W
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- Landfill......................... 70WL
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- Recycling........................ 70WR
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- Sewage Treatment................. 70WS
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- Waste Incinerator................ 70WI
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The classifying number at the top of each paraphrased article
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breaks down in the following way:
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90: Year 02: Month 08: Day 30PFC: Class (See above)
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C: The newspaper 2: Page No. of the newspaper.
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90020830PFCC2
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FINES OR CHARGES:
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 6 21 May 1990
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Cameco, the crown owned uranium mining company in Saskatchewan,
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faces a second pollution charge after a spill of radioactive water
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at its Rabbit Lake Mine. Cameco was fined $10,000 last December
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for a 2 million litre spill.
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90020730PDC3
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POLLUTION-DUMPING:
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In Carleton Place Ontario, Kenden Industries which operates a
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wood products plant on an island in the Mississippi River, will
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be required to clean up a hazardous waste dump says the Ministry
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of the Environment.
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90020850RAC5
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RESOURCES-ANIMAL:
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An official from the World Wide fund for Nature said, in Belgium
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last Wednesday, that the international ban on ivory trading is
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proving effective in the struggle to save the elephants of
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Africa.
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90011650REc6
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RESOURCES-ENERGY:
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Sheik Ahmed Zaki Yamani has launched the Centre for Global Energy
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Studies, in London, last Monday. It is aimed at co-operations
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among oil producers, companies and consumers to avoid another
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oil crisis.
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90020730PFC9
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POLLUTION-FOOD:
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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration through its Centre for
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Science in the Public Interest, supplies a number of hints for
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those who are concerned about pollutants in fish. Among the
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hints are to vary the species, cook properly, select young
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or small fish and trim away the skin and dark meat.
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89-9010EC10
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ENVIRONMENT:
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 7 21 May 1990
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Environmental groups are rallying behind the federal Environment
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Minister Lucien Bouchard, in what they see as a tough battle to
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get environmental assessment legislation through the federal
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bureaucracy.
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89-9010EC12
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ENVIRONMENT:
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The U.S.Congress has announced that legislators from 33 nations
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will come to Washington next spring to consider global warming
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and other environmental issues.
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89-9010EC17
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ENVIRONMENT:
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In Portland, Maine, an international conference was told that
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Canadians and Americans will have to work together, if the Gulf
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of Maine is to be protected against mounting threats from
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pollution and overfishing.
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89-9010EC18
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ENVIRONMENT:
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One hundred students from the Renfrew County Board Education
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gathered at Central Public School to discuss environmental
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concerns and see how each and everyone of us affects the
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environment and possible solutions to the problem.
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89-9010EC19
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ENVIRONMENT:
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Japan spends $230 million to shore up an isle and keep it above
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water, so that under international agreements, Japan can retain
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vast fishing and sea-floor mining claims.
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89121210EC20
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ENVIRONMENT:
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Organizers in Vancouver said that former Norwegian Prime Minister
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Gro Harlem Brundtland, will head the guest list at an environ-
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mental trade show and conference to be held in Vancouver this
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coming March.
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 8 21 May 1990
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90010910EC22
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ENVIRONMENT:
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A single mother in Ottawa is doing her bit for the environment
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by making custom made cloth diapers for the environmentally
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sensitive parent. Her six month old business is booming!
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***************
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Please address any netmail to me at 1:163/223 or to one of the
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addresses above.
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Thank you for taking the time to read this article. I hope to
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hear from many of you from around the world.
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 9 21 May 1990
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Pat Mulcahy
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FidoNet 1:115/790, NetWork 8:7003/2007
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What is the Christian Distribution Network?
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Through a pleasant association with the SDN Project, Ray Waldo
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came up with the idea for the Christian Distribution Network
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(CDN) Project (sm). Although the SDN Project made available a
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vast array of excellent shareware files, the Project didn't
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specifically address the special interests of those who use their
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computers for Church-related or Christian-related endeavors. It
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is Ray's intent to bridge that gap with the CDN Project.
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Ray Waldo is CDN's founder and Project Manager. Over the last
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several months, he has been busy creating the CDN Project and
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fine-tuning the details. His enthusiasm for the project has
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pushed it to grow and develop, with new systems joining each
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week.
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The CDN is made up of BBS operators, software developers, and end
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users. Any of these may be clergy, laity or Church staff. CDN
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uses TICK or FLEA to automatically distribute acceptable software
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and text files that have been developed to support Christian
|
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computing. The idea is to make available files that can be of
|
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help to the Christian SysOp or computer user.
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Distribution is carried out in file echos, which are basically
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the same as message echos, except that files and not messages are
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exchanged. CDN currently has several file echos available. The
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first is CDN, which is for general Christian and Church software.
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CDN_TEXT is to distribute Christian text; CDN_TROL is CDN's
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distribution of 'THE ROCK' On-Line files, dealing with
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Contemporary Christian Music. Currently under development are
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CDN_CFC to distribute Computers for Christ's text files; CDN_MJCN
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for the Messianic Jewish Computer Network; and CDN_MIDI to
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distribute Christian-Related MIDI files.
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CDN has two message echos as well. CDN_SYSOP is for SysOps in
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the CDN project. CDN_FILES is the echo for anyone interested in
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CDN and the files it distributes. This echo is the primary means
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of notification to the general public of all files distributed.
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From time to time, CDN makes certain large files available
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through postal distribution. For example, recently the Online
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Bible (13 360K diskettes) was considered too large to distribute
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by modem, so it was made available to those interested through
|
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postal distribution. The package went to the first SysOp on the
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list, who sent it to the next, and so on until it was returned to
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Ray.
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 10 21 May 1990
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There are several types of CDN members. Full members carry the
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UCDN flag in the FidoNet or NetWork nodelists. Full members must
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carry all program file areas, maintain files for a specified
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length of time, and not change the compression type or remove the
|
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Security Envelope for at least three weeks. Limited members do
|
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not carry the UCDN flag. They are not required to carry all
|
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program file areas, and may make any legal changes in the
|
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compression technique, remove the security envelope or delete the
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files from their systems after all pending transfers have taken
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place. Finally, a recipient is considered a "user" of the CDN
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net distributor, and have no restrictions placed on them.
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Those interested in joining the CDN project in any capacity
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should look for their local CDN node (search the nodelist for the
|
||
UCDN flag) and request the file CDN_JOIN.EXE. That file contains
|
||
the current policy document, as well as information on joining
|
||
the project. CDN_JOIN.EXE is also avaialble from 1:115/790 (aka
|
||
8:7003/2007) or from Ray's system, 1:394/1 (aka 8:7003/1); both
|
||
are 9600 HST systems.
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 11 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
File Echos & Support Group NetWorks
|
||
(the Best thing to happen to networking since Mail)
|
||
|
||
|
||
Many times within the constraints of already existing Networks
|
||
(i.e. FidoNet, RBBSNet, BBSNet, GhotiNet, etc) develops a
|
||
Support Group, Informational Network, Distribution System or
|
||
unique Topical File Echos. Right now file echos are spreading
|
||
like wildfire. Much in the same manner that echos originated,
|
||
file echos are headed. In fact, now the latest FidoNews and
|
||
Nodediff comes echoed via Tick in two distinct file echos
|
||
NODEDIFF and FNEWS to most local networks.
|
||
|
||
|
||
With file echos, files can go directly online (to the area of
|
||
recieving sysops choice) with a description. File echos use a
|
||
secure environment and have a dupe catcher so, no worries mate.
|
||
In the old days, as sysops, we could send each other File
|
||
Attatches and the receiving sysop would have to move the file
|
||
online and type a description into the display file for users.
|
||
Now, with new technology we can send files not only to each
|
||
other but the description comes with it and it can be
|
||
immediately avaliable for the our users, and friends too.
|
||
|
||
The utility that changed my life was Tick, written by Barry
|
||
Geller. The latest avaliable version is 2.00 usually found as
|
||
Tick200.Lzh. Seems right after that, the next great invention
|
||
came out; Raid, by George Peace, which is an Areafix for Tick
|
||
and can be used to turn file echos on and off. Current Raid
|
||
release version is 1.00 found mostly as Raid100.Lzh. There is
|
||
to be a new Raid with an "Announce" function built in and
|
||
it will "AutoCreate" new File echo areas. I am willing to bet
|
||
Release Two will be out shortly. Ticket, by Paul West, is one
|
||
of many file announcement programs. Also avaliable is RFP
|
||
(Recieved for Processing), by Tom Hendricks is another Great
|
||
and completely configurable File Announcement Program. Yes,
|
||
Its getting better all the time <Lennon and McCartney>.
|
||
|
||
I can't say what was the first file echo. But shucks, I was just
|
||
mesmerized by the SDS. When our Local NEC who at the time was
|
||
Bill Anderson started distributing the SDS to us it was it was
|
||
like discovering ice cream for the first time <grin>. A
|
||
chocolate soda fountain had been turned on we had only dreamed
|
||
existed. Before this, we all shared new releases that someone
|
||
was lucky enough to File Request. When someone got a new some-
|
||
thing or other that helped the operation of their BBS, they
|
||
would announce it in the local sysop echo and we would out and
|
||
wazoo it, FReq it, or any other manner at our disposal. Since
|
||
the SDS came to town they all would mysteriously just show up.
|
||
|
||
The concept of file echos caught on so strong here in our local
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 12 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
community that a group of about 7 of us formed over 75 local
|
||
file echos which we use to share new shareware programs and
|
||
uploads via our local network(s). One I originally contacted
|
||
Barry Geller about some problems I was having with a "C" Echo,
|
||
I renamed to CEE and is now distributed in 3 regions in Fido-
|
||
Net. And since then too, I began help with beta testing Tick and
|
||
finally Raid at Barry and Georges invitation and my persistance
|
||
<grin>.
|
||
|
||
That was about two years ago and other things have changed here
|
||
and now Ed Cavender and I pick up the SDS & DDSDOORS for
|
||
Nashville and distribute them to anyone interested. Ed and I
|
||
even have had the chance to send a couple files back the other
|
||
way.
|
||
|
||
I would like to do some more in this great new age which is
|
||
dawning. I am not a programmer though so that leaves out quite
|
||
a few of the fun type jobs <grin>. I have been listening and
|
||
watching and helping tie my local network into some of the new
|
||
support and informational networks. EET (the School Electronics
|
||
BBS) has recently started carrying the SDN and through a fellow
|
||
network member, Jerry Dunlap of Dickson County BBS, I brought in
|
||
DVNet to Nashville and with permission both he and I carry the
|
||
support files online. But now an even better idea has come to
|
||
mind!
|
||
|
||
In the backbone echo ECHO_REQ you can post and read about
|
||
queries, requests to link into echos, and new echo
|
||
announcements. As an alternative and with the growing interest
|
||
in file echos, I recently suggested an echo conference where one
|
||
might find information about file echos, support networks, and
|
||
distribution systems. Information on what goes with what and who
|
||
to contact to get linked in. Maybe even a few folks there to ask
|
||
how the traffic is and what to expect. Still other alternatives
|
||
are starting new file echos or support networks. So an new echo
|
||
conference is born: "FILE_REQ"
|
||
|
||
I had in mind some ideas for support/informational networks
|
||
myself to either link into or help create. One is an electronics
|
||
info & programs network and the other is a CAD netWork. The
|
||
other BBS I run here in Nashville is at a technical college and
|
||
sponsored by the electronics engineering technologies
|
||
department. It has plenty of electronics oriented programs but
|
||
there are always different ones which do specific anylaysis and
|
||
help with design projects. Most time one ends up writing a
|
||
program which already exists or if you go looking ..well.. this
|
||
may take a while. More recently the only board here in Nashville
|
||
that was carrying an AutoCAD file area and the national backbone
|
||
echo A_CAD went down. So I set aside about 20M and put CAD-CAM
|
||
and A_CAD online. And with the aid of a very active AutoCAD user
|
||
it has become a regular CAD hangout in the community. Now don't
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 13 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
get me wrong ..I have in mind a few more selfish reasons to
|
||
..I would like to see a national ANSI file echo <grin> and
|
||
I'd be willing to bet there are some more great ideas all of
|
||
us have in common.
|
||
|
||
|
||
So far FILE_REQ is avaliable from Nashville, TN at 1:116/29,
|
||
and from NEC18 Amnon Nissan at 1:151/1003 and 100, and Dean
|
||
Lachan (Region 19) 1:124/4115, and (Region 13 and Tick Central)
|
||
Barry Geller at 1:266/12 and more recently (SDS Coordinator)
|
||
Tom Hendricks at 1:261/662.
|
||
.
|
||
|
||
Kenneth "Kevin" Snively
|
||
EET BBS 1:116/24
|
||
the Nashville Hub System 1:116/28
|
||
the Dawg Byte 1:116/29
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 14 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Janet Murray
|
||
Fido 1:105/23
|
||
|
||
CURMUDGEON TOSS RULES at the
|
||
REGION 17 FIDONET(r) CONVENTION
|
||
(Thanks to Ken Zwaschka, 1:105/54)
|
||
|
||
1. Due to budgetary constraints, a surprising reluctance of Nike
|
||
and other local athletic shoe companies to provide
|
||
sponsorship, and the intervention of government agencies who
|
||
simply do not understand, the "Curmudgeon Bungee Diving" event
|
||
promised as a highlight at the Region17 Convention has been
|
||
replaced by an equally exciting contest: "Curmudgeon Tossing"
|
||
at the Menucha swimming pool.
|
||
|
||
2. "Curmudgeon Tossing" is a team sport. Teams may consist of
|
||
two or more individuals.
|
||
|
||
3. Since there is only one Curmudgeon, and there will certainly
|
||
be a large number of contestants, teams must provide their own
|
||
Curmudgeon Clone who meets the following criteria:
|
||
|
||
A. Must be a human being (at least in the biological sense);
|
||
otherwise, animal rights activists have threatened a major
|
||
media event.
|
||
|
||
B. Must be a current *C in the FidoNet organization.
|
||
(Handicap points will be awarded based on the *C's ranking:
|
||
e.g. 1 point for an N*C, 2 points for an R*C, etc.)
|
||
|
||
C. Additional handicap points will be awarded for Curmudgeon
|
||
Clones attired in Levis, a flannel shirt, and Birkenstock
|
||
sandals (1 point for each item.)
|
||
|
||
D. The Curmudgeon Clone must be a _WILLING_ participant, prior
|
||
to the beginning of the TOSS, and may withdraw to a hot
|
||
shower at any time.
|
||
|
||
4. Objective: TOSS the Curmudgeon Clone into the exact center of
|
||
the 30x75' pool from the "long" end. The Curmudgeon Clone can
|
||
help (by diving toward the center) - or hinder (depending on
|
||
HOW willingly he offered to participate.) Although not against
|
||
the rules, it is considered unCurmudgeonlike to indicate -
|
||
until the last minute - the degree of cooperation the team can
|
||
expect from the Curmudgeon Clone.
|
||
|
||
5. Each team will get three tries,with their best score counting.
|
||
|
||
6. Although points will be carefully logged, final standing will
|
||
be based on the totally subjective anarchical/dictatorial
|
||
decision of the Judgeon.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 15 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Certificates will be awarded in the following categories:
|
||
|
||
No comment, mention or acknowledgement (the highest rating -
|
||
for silence from the Curmudgeon is the best recognition!)
|
||
|
||
Take it to another echo
|
||
|
||
Dweeb
|
||
|
||
7. There will be no winner: just cold, wet, shivering, and
|
||
humiliated *C's - that should be MORE than enough.
|
||
|
||
8. The JUDGEON will, of course, be the CURMUDGEON himself. No
|
||
decisions will be final, and can be disputed, debated, and
|
||
flamed endlessly without any resolution.
|
||
|
||
===============================================================
|
||
| |
|
||
| IF you are considering attending the Region17 Convention, |
|
||
| please send NetMail to Ken Zwaschka at 1:105/54 - THIS WEEK! |
|
||
| |
|
||
| Otherwise, we cannot guarantee that there will be places |
|
||
| available for late (and especially) last-minute registrants. |
|
||
| |
|
||
===============================================================
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 16 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Anthony Grillo
|
||
Fido 1:272/94
|
||
|
||
|
||
SIGN FRIENDS-A Sign Language Tutorial
|
||
|
||
One of my callers, Fran O'Gorman, wrote a program designed to
|
||
teach sign language using a computer. I was so impressed by the
|
||
program and its ability to help many people in all parts of the
|
||
world that I offered to be a distribution point for the program.
|
||
In addition I will be hosting an echo supporting SIGN FRIENDS. I
|
||
asked Fran to write a little article about her program and I
|
||
present it here.
|
||
|
||
********
|
||
|
||
Sign Friends is an interactive program designed to teach sign
|
||
language utilizing the graphic and animation capabilities of the
|
||
computer. Compressed into 3 files, so that it can be extracted
|
||
onto either a floppy or hard drive system, it consists of SIGN1
|
||
(file name is SIGN37-1.EXE) and SIGN2 (file name SIGN37-2.EXE)
|
||
and SIGN3 (file name SIGN37-3.EXE). A .DOC file (SIGN.DOC) also
|
||
accompanies these, describing installation procedures.
|
||
|
||
Written in GWBasic, the user will need either that or BASICA if
|
||
he/she has a true IBM, and CGA capabilities in order to run the
|
||
program. Further details are described in a read.me file
|
||
included with the programs.
|
||
|
||
Sign Friends is topically arranged according to chapters of
|
||
approximately seven words each, with the exception of the
|
||
alphabet and numbers. There are over 200 words to date in Sign
|
||
friends. An index concludes SIGN1 and SIGN3. Each chapter
|
||
includes a practice and a test portion. Student results are
|
||
displayed at the end of each test. Sign Friends is totally
|
||
menu-driven and requires little or no computer competence for
|
||
its use. The vocabulary is on an elementary level, little
|
||
reading ability is required, thus it is suitable for use with
|
||
children as well as adults. The program includes a
|
||
fingerspeller.
|
||
|
||
Sign Friends was written for my brain-injured child who, while
|
||
hearing, is unable to speak and depends on sign for expressive
|
||
communication. It is my hope that a world more fluent in sign
|
||
will be a world more accessible to her and children like her.
|
||
|
||
Fran O'Gorman
|
||
|
||
********
|
||
|
||
SIGN FRIENDS is available here on the Monroe Electronic Mall
|
||
(1:272/94) as self extracting files:
|
||
SIGN37-1.EXE, SIGN37-2.EXE, SIGN37-3.EXE
|
||
and as ZIPPED files:
|
||
SIGN37-1.ZIP, SIGN37-2.ZIP, SIGN37-3.ZIP
|
||
At the present a local message area exists for the support and
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 17 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
discussion of SIGN FRIENDS. If you would like to partake in an
|
||
echo about this program please contact me for setting it up. If
|
||
enough interest is generated in the echo I will request backbone
|
||
tie-in at a future date. Your input on this program will enable
|
||
Fran to add additional chapters and refine the program to help
|
||
all those who need it.
|
||
|
||
Anthony Grillo
|
||
Sysop-Monroe Electronic Mall
|
||
914 783-0992 1:272/94
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 18 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Secret Sysop Society presents __
|
||
*** Conclave '90 *** / \
|
||
The SYSOPS Convention /|oo \
|
||
Home of FidoCon 1990 (_| /_)
|
||
Lyndhurst, New Jersey _`@/_ \ _
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
/ Fido \ _//|| _\ /
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Rate Plan Schedule: Before 6/1/90: Before 5/1/90:
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
C. Conference w/ meals....$300.00 $250.00 $200.00
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
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|
||
G. Registrant & Spouse....$720.00 $670.00 $620.00
|
||
(All rate plans except plan F include all conference and hotel
|
||
fees. Those registering before 5/1/90 get a $100.00 discount,
|
||
those registering before 6/1/90 get a $50.00 discount.)
|
||
|
||
You must pay by Check, Money Order, or Credit Card. Please send
|
||
no cash. All monies must be in U.S. Funds. Checks should be
|
||
made out to: "Conclave '90"
|
||
|
||
The following registration form must be completed and mailed to:
|
||
|
||
PO Box 12
|
||
Lyndhurst, NJ 07071
|
||
|
||
You may register by Netmailing this completed form to 1:1/90 for
|
||
processing. Rename it to ZNNNXXXX.REG where Z is your Zone
|
||
number, N is your Net number, and X is your Node number. US Mail
|
||
confirmation is required within 72 hours of electronic filing.
|
||
|
||
If you are paying by credit card, please include the required
|
||
information. For your own security, do not route any message
|
||
with your credit card number on it. Crash it directly to 1:1/90.
|
||
|
||
The official Conclave '90 airline is American Airlines.
|
||
American offers a 5% discount the lowest applicable round-trip
|
||
fare, including 1st class travel, subject to availability of
|
||
inventory. All fare rules and restrictions apply. In addition,
|
||
American offers 40% off their round trip unrestricted day coach
|
||
fare. International travelers qualify for special benefits,
|
||
including complimentary admittance to the Admiral's Club Lounge
|
||
at any American Airlines terminal. Newark is an American Air-
|
||
lines city with direct flights to most major cities. When making
|
||
reservations, you must call American's Toll-free reservation
|
||
number at 800-433-1790, and reference Star number 13704F.
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 19 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
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||
|
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|
||
|
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||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Postal Code: __________________ Country: ______________________
|
||
|
||
Voice Phone: ______________________ Data: _____________________
|
||
|
||
Zone:Net/Node.Point@Domain: ____________________________________
|
||
|
||
Special requirements: __________________________________________
|
||
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN A* | | | $495.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
| PLAN C* | | | $200.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN D* | | | $105.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN E* | | | $ 75.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN F | | | $ 30.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| PLAN G* | | | $620.00 | |
|
||
+===============+=====================+=====+==========+=======+
|
||
| NJ Beach Trip | | | $ 24.50 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| Eve. NYC Tour | | | $ 37.50 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| Broadway Show | | | $ 75.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| NYC Shop Tour | | | $ 36.50 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
| Costume Ball* | | | $ 50.00 | |
|
||
+---------------+---------------------+-----+----------+-------+
|
||
* includes all conference fees & Hotel | Total $ | |
|
||
** includes dinner, show, and costume +==========+=======+
|
||
|
||
MC _____ Visa _____ Card Number: _____________________________
|
||
|
||
Expiration: ___________ Signature _____________________________
|
||
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FidoNews 7-21 Page 20 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 21 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
COLUMNS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Henry Clark
|
||
124/6120
|
||
|
||
|
||
Programmer and Tester --
|
||
|
||
My neighbors and I had an interesting discussion concerning the
|
||
relative merits of large software projects and software quality
|
||
control. Really it was two on one, with myself (micro software
|
||
and minimum person project advocate) and Mike (mainframe
|
||
software project manager and tired of the maximum person
|
||
projects) versus Ken (workstation software salesman and
|
||
wondering why developers can't make software without bugs).
|
||
|
||
I'll spare you the details of the opening volleys of small
|
||
versus large projects, time and cost considerations and the
|
||
personal biases of each of the participants. The really
|
||
interesting part was about the role of software tester.
|
||
|
||
Primary to the argument was the role and relative skill level
|
||
of the software testing team, or Quality Control group. From a
|
||
cost and marketing standpoint, it behooves a company to get
|
||
lots of experts testing and retesting a software product before
|
||
it goes out the door. Support dollars spent up front rather
|
||
than later when you have an irate customer. Sort of a pay me
|
||
now or pay me later kind of approach.
|
||
|
||
An often overlooked criteria for the software tester is that
|
||
he/she must possess about the same skill level as the end user.
|
||
This does not mean experts, and certainly not developers. This
|
||
works well for two reasons, 1) you can't get developers to test
|
||
other people's software and 2) you can't get developers to make
|
||
'uninformed' decisions about what actually needs to be tested
|
||
and how to test.
|
||
|
||
The bottom line ? Hire a few computer literate high-schoolers
|
||
this summer to run through all your software functions. Give
|
||
them the documentation, a diskette, and a stack of Problem
|
||
Report sheets.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Window Washer --
|
||
|
||
Windows 3.0 arrived over at my pardners BIG WINDOWS development
|
||
shop. It sure is pretty. Unfortunately, without the /r
|
||
switch, none of his existing apps will run. Looks like upgrade
|
||
time for a bunch of software.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 22 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
I was unhappy with one important feature, SETUP install new
|
||
applications. You get several options for scanning to look for
|
||
PIFs, etc. but no specific way to install ONE new app, for
|
||
example one that you just unarced. Setup gives you options
|
||
like whole disk and just path; on a big disk, this is a real
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pain.
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Sure is pretty though. I've been trying to think how I could
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really use it. Seems to me that WordPerfect, ScanMan and
|
||
Ventura would fit the publishing bill. I'm a Brief/MS C kind
|
||
of guy, that's character mode too. All the good comm programs
|
||
are character mode. Lotus is still numero uno.
|
||
|
||
I guess it's true, you are what you are. Lot's of folks have
|
||
called me a character; no one has ever called me an icon.
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|
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|
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Honey's New Car --
|
||
|
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"Well I got me a car, it's as big as a whale, and it's about to
|
||
set sail... Yeah I got me a Chrysler, it seats about twenty,
|
||
so hurry up, and bring your juke box money... Well the Love
|
||
Shack is a little old place where, we can GET TOGETHER...
|
||
Love Shack baby..."
|
||
|
||
I can not believe these car dealers. Used to be, they'd snap
|
||
up a profit, turn that money into another car, and smile doing
|
||
it. Now days, it appears, they think they got something
|
||
special.
|
||
|
||
Hey New Car Dealers : We all know your manufacturers invoice
|
||
price, and how that includes your 3% volume rebate, and 1%
|
||
marketing fund. You make money selling it 'below cost' ! What
|
||
really hurts is the amount of time wasted HAGGLING, especially
|
||
when you start bidding at sticker plus !
|
||
|
||
"Love Shack, that's where it's at, Love Shack, baby, that's
|
||
where it's at..."
|
||
|
||
Just goes to show, it's who you know, not what. I got a buddy
|
||
who runs a leasing company; he has a fleet number and
|
||
apparently, all three of us made money, but I got my price ! I
|
||
drove out exactly 14 hours after calling him.
|
||
|
||
It sure is pretty, Junebug <smile>.
|
||
|
||
"Bang, bang, bang on the door baby... I can't hear you. BANG
|
||
BANG, on the door baby, BANG BANG on the door baby, WHAT ?"
|
||
( (C) B-52 Cosmic Thing )
|
||
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 23 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 24 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
LATEST VERSIONS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
Latest Software Versions
|
||
|
||
MS-DOS Systems
|
||
--------------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Fido 12s+ Phoenix 1.3 TAG 2.5d1
|
||
Lynx 1.30 QuickBBS 2.64* TBBS 2.1
|
||
Kitten 2.16 RBBS 17.2B TComm/TCommNet 3.4
|
||
Maximus 1.00 RBBSmail 17.2 Telegard 2.5*
|
||
Opus 1.12+* RemoteAccess 2.0* TPBoard 6.1*
|
||
PCBoard 14.2* SLBBS 1.76* Wildcat! 2.10
|
||
|
||
Network Node List Other
|
||
Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version
|
||
|
||
BinkleyTerm 2.30 EditNL 4.00 ARC 6.02
|
||
D'Bridge 1.30 MakeNL 2.20 ARCAsim 2.30*
|
||
Dutchie 2.90C ParseList 1.30 ARCmail 2.0
|
||
FrontDoor 1.99c* Prune 1.40 ConfMail 4.00
|
||
PRENM 1.47 SysNL 3.01 Crossnet v1.5*
|
||
SEAdog 4.51b XlatList 2.90 EMM 2.02
|
||
XlaxDiff 2.35* Gmail 2.05
|
||
XlaxNode 2.35* GROUP 2.16
|
||
GUS 1.30
|
||
LHARC 1.13
|
||
MSG 4.0
|
||
MSGED 1.99
|
||
PK[UN]ZIP 1.10*
|
||
QM 1.0
|
||
QSORT 4.03
|
||
SLMAIL 1.35*
|
||
StarLink 1.01
|
||
TagMail 2.20
|
||
TCOMMail 2.2
|
||
Telemail 1.20*
|
||
TMail 1.14*
|
||
TPBNetEd 3.2
|
||
TosScan 1.00*
|
||
UFGATE 1.03
|
||
XRS 3.20*
|
||
ZmailQ 1.10
|
||
Macintosh
|
||
---------
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 25 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Red Ryder Host v2.1b10 Tabby 2.2 MacArc 0.04
|
||
Mansion 7.15 Copernicus 1.0d* ArcMac 1.3
|
||
WWIV (Mac) 3.0 StuffIt 1.51
|
||
FBBS 0.91* TImport 1.331
|
||
TExport 1.32
|
||
Timestamp 1.6
|
||
Tset 1.3
|
||
Import 3.2
|
||
Export 3.21
|
||
Sundial 3.2
|
||
PreStamp 3.2
|
||
OriginatorII 2.0
|
||
AreaFix 1.6
|
||
Mantissa 3.21
|
||
Zenith 1.5
|
||
UNZIP 1.02b
|
||
|
||
Amiga
|
||
-----
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
Paragon 2.06+ BinkleyTerm 1.00 AmigArc 0.23
|
||
TrapDoor 1.50* AReceipt 1.5*
|
||
WelMat 0.35 booz 1.01
|
||
ConfMail 1.10
|
||
ChameleonEdit 0.10
|
||
ElectricHerald1.66*
|
||
Lharc 1.10
|
||
MessageFilter 1.52*
|
||
oMMM 1.49b
|
||
ParseLst 1.30
|
||
PkAX 1.00
|
||
PK[UN]ZIP 1.01
|
||
PolyxAmy 2.02*
|
||
RMB 1.30
|
||
TrapList 1.12*
|
||
UNzip 0.86
|
||
Yuck! 1.61*
|
||
Zoo 2.00
|
||
|
||
Atari ST
|
||
--------
|
||
|
||
Bulletin Board Software Network Mailer Other Utilities
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 26 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
Name Version Name Version Name Version
|
||
|
||
FIDOdoor/ST 1.5c* BinkleyTerm 1.03g3 ConfMail 1.00
|
||
Pandora BBS 2.41c The BOX 1.20 ParseList 1.30
|
||
QuickBBS/ST 0.40 ARC 6.02*
|
||
GS Point 0.61 LHARC 0.51
|
||
PKUNZIP 1.10
|
||
MSGED 1.96S
|
||
SRENUM 6.2
|
||
Trenum 0.10
|
||
OMMM 1.40
|
||
|
||
|
||
+ Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
|
||
* Recently changed
|
||
|
||
Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
|
||
reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
|
||
all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 27 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
NOTICES
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
The Interrupt Stack
|
||
|
||
|
||
26 May 1990
|
||
First anniversary of Net 269, Northern New Jersey
|
||
|
||
3 Jun 1990
|
||
Comdex/Spring, which will run from June 3-6 in Atlanta, will be
|
||
held at the World Congress Center and other locations.
|
||
|
||
5 Jun 1990
|
||
David Dodell's 33rd Birthday
|
||
|
||
12 Jun 1990
|
||
Fifth anniversary of FidoNet's switch to multiple nets.
|
||
|
||
14 Jul 1990
|
||
Start of Eurocon / Techcon conference in Antwerp, Belgium.
|
||
Please note that the date has changed: The conferences are
|
||
one day later than originally planned !
|
||
|
||
27 Jul 1990
|
||
The beginning of the REGION 17 Convention at Menucha Resort in
|
||
the Columbia Gorge, Oregon. For details contact Ken Zwaschka,
|
||
1:105/54.
|
||
|
||
1 Aug 1990
|
||
Start of FidoCon '90. Contact Bill Vanglahn at 1:1/90 for
|
||
details.
|
||
|
||
5 Oct 1990
|
||
21st Anniversary of "Monty Python's Flying Circus"
|
||
|
||
6 Nov 1990
|
||
First anniversary of Van Diepen Automatiseert, 2:500/28
|
||
|
||
14 Nov 1990
|
||
Marco Maccaferri's 21rd Birthday. Send greetings to him at
|
||
2:332/16.0
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 1991
|
||
Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact
|
||
Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description.
|
||
|
||
16 Feb 1991
|
||
Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 7-21 Page 28 21 May 1990
|
||
|
||
|
||
7 Oct 1991
|
||
Area code 415 fragments. Alameda and Contra Costa Counties
|
||
will begin using area code 510. This includes Oakland,
|
||
Concord, Berkeley and Hayward. San Francisco, San Mateo,
|
||
Marin, parts of Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay
|
||
Islands will retain area code 415.
|
||
|
||
1 Feb 1992
|
||
Area code 213 fragments. Western, coastal, southern and
|
||
eastern portions of Los Angeles County will begin using area
|
||
code 310. This includes Los Angeles International Airport,
|
||
West Los Angeles, San Pedro and Whittier. Downtown Los
|
||
Angeles and surrounding communities (such as Hollywood and
|
||
Montebello) will retain area code 213.
|
||
|
||
|
||
If you have something which you would like to see on this
|
||
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
|
||
|
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