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Volume 5, Number 16 18 April 1988
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Editor in Chief Dale Lovell
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Editor Emeritus: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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Contributing Editors: Al Arango
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FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
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Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
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submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
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standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
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node 1:1/1.
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Copyright 1988 by the International FidoNet Association. All
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rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for
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noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
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at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.
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Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of
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Fido Software, 164 Shipley Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94107 and
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are used with permission.
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The contents of the articles contained here are not our
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responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them.
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Everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING
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received.
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Table of Contents
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1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1
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In Search of a Democratic FidoNet ........................ 1
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12 Ways to Kill An Association ........................... 2
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Now FidoNews Too ......................................... 3
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Moving Ahead With FidoCon'88 ............................. 4
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Gateway E-Mail to Other Systems .......................... 6
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Health Info-Com Network Newsletter ....................... 8
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2. COLUMNS .................................................. 9
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FidoCon '88 News ......................................... 9
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3. NOTICES .................................................. 10
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The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 10
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Region 14 Coordinators Position Open ..................... 10
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Latest Software Versions ................................. 11
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And more!
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 1 18 Apr 1988
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ARTICLES
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Mike Goldman
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FidoNet 1:129/57.0
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BitNet MJGST3@PITTVMS
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IN SEARCH OF A DEMOCRATIC FIDONET
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As I was reading Steven Hoskin's most recent column in the
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FidoNews, a thought occurred to me. Perhaps you will not think it
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a good thought, but here it is, and you can form any opinions
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you like. Steven discussed in his article the methods by which
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IFNA, as the corporate manager of the FidoNet, could set up a
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system where "grunt SysOps" could vote on issues. The problem,
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as he mentioned, was that SysOps didn't all belong to IFNA, and
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hence could not, at present, vote. He also mentioned that
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nobody should ever have to PAY to vote.
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Amid all the flames, counterflames, et alia dealing with the
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proposal to disincorporate IFNA by Randy Edwards, and
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counterproposals to the effect of IFNA no longer governing the
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FidoNet, but instead acting as the representative of ALL FidoNet
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compatible networks, I have yet another suggestion to make.
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I hereby propose that IFNA is a necessary administrator of the
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FidoNet, and has every reason to exist, for without it we
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would surely fall apart. But I further propose that no
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representative of a FREE network should have a FEE for
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membership. In other words, IFNA Membership should be a
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RIGHT granted to ALL FidoNet SysOps. IFNA is a non-profit
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organization to start with, so this should not be as big of a
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deal as it seems...
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Anticipating the answers to this proposal, yes, we will have
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to work out a new means by which IFNA raises capital to fund
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itself. Some possibilities include: Voluntary donations (tax-
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deductible, hopefully), Sales of modems (if a suitable deal
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with USR, for instance, can be worked out...), or any suggestions
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that you (readers of this) might have.
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If you feel a comment to this article is in order, so long as
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it is not a flame, I can be reached by NetMail between 11pm and
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8am. I will be 24hrs within a number of weeks, but am not at
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time of writing.
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ECHO FLAMES >> NUL
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-Mike
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 2 18 Apr 1988
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12 Ways to Kill An Association
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No one individual sabotages a community association
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intentionally. But a glance at this list might reveal ways to
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work against an association's best interests without being aware
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of it.
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1. Don't come to meetings. If you do come, be late.
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2. If you attend, find fault with the work of others.
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3. Never run for the board--it's easier to criticize.
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4. Be angry if you're not appointed to a committee.
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5. If you're asked your opinion, say nothing. Afterward, tell
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everyne how things should have been.
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6. Do no more than necessary. If a few persons work tirelessly,
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complain that the association is run by a clique.
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7. Don't bother to help get new members involved.
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8. Don't tell board members how they can help you or achieve
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certain goals--but if they don't, quit participating.
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9. When attending a meeting, vote for one thing, and then forget
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about it after you get home.
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10. Agree to everything at the meeting--disagree later.
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11. Take all the benefits your association provides--but don't
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make a personal contribution.
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12. Talk about cooperation, but don't practice it.
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Revised from Management Memo of the Associated General
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Contractors of VA, July 1987. Reprinted [in the Woodlake Letter]
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with permission of "Association Trends". Reprinted here without
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permission.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 3 18 Apr 1988
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NOW FIDONEWS TOO
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by Dot Falcon
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Co-sysop, The Falcon's Rock
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Opus 1:109/648
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College Park, MD
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The endless complaining and debating that has ruined the SYSOP and
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IFNA echoes has now reached FidoNews too. Recent issues (even the
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editorials) contain a daunting quantity of debate about who should
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do what, and why.
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Normally, endless griping is a symptom of unresolved problems.
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I'm a person who likes to speak plainly, and I offer here, in the
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interest of resolving three major issues, what I consider to be
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some plain truths.
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1. What is IFNA's function? This can be debated forever,
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because I believe IFNA has no function. In my opinion, it
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was formed because some people decided to collect money and
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didn't feel right about doing it without some official
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sanction, so they formed a corporation. Dissolve IFNA. Stop
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collecting money. Let the nodelist, FidoNews, and anything
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else be distributed by those who feel like it. That's how it
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was in the old days so many of you would like to bring back,
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wasn't it?
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2. What to do about all those new nets forming? You folks sound
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like AT&T when MCI and Sprint came on the scene. Just relax,
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relinquish your monopoly, and enjoy the new abundance.
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3. What to do about all the flaming? My personal plan of action
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is to remove myself from those situations which involve
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humans who can't make themselves palatable to others.
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Obviously, a lot of people have already made that decision
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about FidoNet. Those of you who are still out there
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bemoaning what's become of the net, do something. If you
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can't make things better, consider going elsewhere. Take
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action instead of complaining, and you'll stop being part of
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the problem.
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Those of you who still have problems after reading this, do
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something. Do anything. But please stop the endless debating and
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recommending, and especially, stop griping.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 4 18 Apr 1988
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Tim Sullivan
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Chairman FidoCon'88 Host Committee
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108/62
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FidoCon'88 is closer than you think!
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Despite all of the net rumblings, FidoCon'88 in Cincinnati is
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attracting more attention than ever before. Already
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registrations are coming in. People in the net seem to be almost
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as excited about this year's conference as we are. Just think,
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here is the opportunity to meet with fellow SYSOPs you have been
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chatting with for years. A chance to meet face to face with
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friends and flamers alike.
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FidoCon also provides an opportunity to meet face to face with
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vendors important to sysops such as: drive manufacturers, modem
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manufacturers, common carriers (like AT&T), software companies
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and more. We are asking the vendors not to bring just sales
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people, but technical people that can answers YOUR tough
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questions.
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Cincinnati will also provide interesting conferences with topics
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you want to here about and panel discussions for you to
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participate in. We will be reviewing products, talking about
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standards, new technology, and even fun stuff like net politics.
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Probably the most important thing about FidoCon is fellowship.
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All of us in the net have a common bond. We may not always
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agree, but in the end we share similar goals and experiences.
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There will be plenty of 'quiet time' to strengthen and renew
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these ties. You'll be surprised how reasonable some people can
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be when you meet them in person.
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August is closer than you think. The conference dates are August
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25th - 28th (well really August 24th - 28th, registration will
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start Wednesday afternoon and there will be a reception that
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night. All are welcome). For more information contact Rick
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Ashworth at 1/88 (our special FidoCon'88 node). You can file
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request 'REGISTER' from 1/88 or most net 108 boards for the
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latest registration information packet.
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We are still looking for more ideas for speakers and topics. If
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you have an idea for a topic or would like to speak at FidoCon,
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contact Mark Walker at 108/50.
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Don't forget about the US Robotics special offer! The first 50
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people to register for the conference will receive a coupon for
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$50 off the price of an HST 9600 baud modem. This coupon CAN be
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used with the USR SYSOP offer! This brings the price of a USR
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HST down to a reasonable $445.00! -> BUT you have to be one of
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the first 50 to register.
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Many SYSOPs have already taken advantage of this special offer,
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so you had better act fast!
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 5 18 Apr 1988
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See you all in Cincinnati!
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 6 18 Apr 1988
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GATEWAY: A System to Exchange E-Mail with Other Systems
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by Daniel Tobias
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1:380/2
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There's been some talk in FidoNews and elsewhere about
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gatewaying mail between FidoNet and various other systems. This
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idea comes from the desire of many to fully inter-network all E-
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Mail systems so that everybody who uses E-Mail of any sort can
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send mail to anyone else, similarly to how the telephone
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presently operates. (You don't have to know what local or long
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distance company your friend subscribes to in order to call him.)
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The E-Mail field, as it is now, is terriby Balkanized, with
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numerous different networks (amateur, commercial, institutional,
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etc.) which can't all talk to each other. While some (like
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commercial E-Mail providers who wish everyone to subscribe to
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their service) may consider it in their interest to keep the
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systems separated, it is in the interest of people who like to
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communicate to break down the walls and let everyone send
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messages to everyone else, whatever service they might use.
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To this end, I am now releasing GATEWAY, a program to enable
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E-Mail gatewaying between Fido/Opus/compatible systems and other
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services. In particular, I have set up the ability to gateway to
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CompuServe and The Source, but the program is general enough so
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you may be able to use it for other gatewaying as well.
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The way GATEWAY works is by finding messages in your netmail
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area that are properly addressed ("Cis 77777,7777" for CompuServe
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ID 77777,777, for instance), and writing them to text files in a
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standardized format; then, a script file (requiring Datastorm's
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PROCOMM-PLUS to run) logs in to the remote system, sends the
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outbound mail and fetches anything inbound; and then GATEWAY
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takes over again and sticks the incoming messages into the
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netmail area. (The above address format is the present default;
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should FidoNet ever adopt a standard for internetwork addressing
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as discussed in an earlier FidoNews, I'll modify GATEWAY to use
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addresses of the new standard, whatever it may be.)
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I designed GATEWAY primarily for gatewaying private E-Mail;
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however, by popular demand, I added some features for sending and
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recieving messages for the online forums/SIGS on the commercial
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services. However, due to copyright considerations, it is not
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recommended you make commercial SIGs accessible to your users;
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but this feature can be helpful in your own personal perusal of
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SIG messages, which you can now do offline on your sysop console
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rather than "while the meter's running" on a commercial service.
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Where private E-Mail is concerned, though, to my knowledge no
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service has claimed copyright to such messages, and I know of
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several people who are operating gateways of such messages into
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and out of CompuServe and its ilk. Hence, there should be no
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legal problems to setting your board up as a gateway to let your
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users send mail to friends on CompuServe and The Source, and get
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replies back. Provisions exist to charge the cost of sending and
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receiving messages against the Fido/Opus "credit" value in the
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 7 18 Apr 1988
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user's record.
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With GATEWAY, combined with some programs from others to
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interlink FidoNet with the UUCP/UseNet network, just about
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everything can be connected with everything else in a great big
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WorldNet, to the furtherance of interpersonal communications.
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GATEWAY, a "shareware" program, is downloadable in the file
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GATE100.ARC (the last three digits will change to reflect the
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version number) from SOFT FIDO at (318) 222-3503; it's in file
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area 6. Bark and WaZoo file requests (to node 1:380/2) will work
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as well; use GATE???.ARC to be sure you get it even if the
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version changes.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 8 18 Apr 1988
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HICNet News
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David Dodell
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FidoNet Node 1:114/15
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uucp: {ncar,decvax,ihnp4} !noao!asuvax!stjhmc!ddodell
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Bitnet: ARDSD @ ASUACAD
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First, what is HICNet? HICNet is an acronym for Health
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Information by Computer Network. This is why I got involved in
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FidoNet. With the advent of easy computer access around the
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world at minimal cost compared to commercial networks, I
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envisioned a system where medical information could be
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disseminated to many individuals at a low-cost. While the
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medically related echos of GRAND_ROUNDS, ABLED, RECOVERY,
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AIDS/ARC are exceptional as discussion areas, the HICNet
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Newsletter is for hard news information.
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Each issue comes out on the Monday of each week and includes the
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latest weekly news from the Centers for Disease Control Morbidity
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and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), Food and Drug Administration
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reports, news items from the Surgeon General, and the latest
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information and statistics on AIDS. We also have occasional
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articles from various other medically related fields such as
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dentistry and optometry.
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An elaborate distribution system to get the newsletter out around
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the world in a timely manner has been developed by Robert Klotz
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at FidoNet Node 1:19/9. Robert is the worldwide distribution
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coordinator for the newsletter.
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In my eyes, this is a wonderful use of the resource we call
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FidoNet. The newsletter has been in operation for almost two
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years providing an education resource to many individuals,
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augmenting the daily discussions in the echomail areas.
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If you are interested in receiving the newsletter, and wish to be
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on the regular distribution schedule, please contact either
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myself, David Dodell at 1:114/15 or Robert Klotz at 1:19/9. If
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you would like a sampl of the newsletter, the most current
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version is available for file request from 1:114/15 using the
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keyword HICNEWS.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 9 18 Apr 1988
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COLUMNS
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Steven Meinken
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FidoNet Node: 1:108/93
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This is the first in hopefully a weekly article updating you on
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and providing you with information for FidoCon '88 at the
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Drawbridge Inn in Cincinnati. With the cooperation of the Net
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108 Sysops on the planning committee, I will try and keep
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everyone up to date on events as well as inform you on guest
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speakers, excursions for the family, etc.
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All of us here in Cincinnati are trying to make things as easy as
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possible for you to get up to the minute information about the
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conference, therefore we have brought up a special 'Registration'
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node: 1/88. Right now you can call 1/88 (300-9600 baud - thanks
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to US Robotics for the HST) and get the latest information about
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registration, pricing, agenda, vendors, special events, etc. The
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registration node will also support file requests with "magic"
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filenames for FidoCon '88 information. Soon you will even be
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able to register on-line if you plan to use either Visa or
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Mastercard. Stay tuned for more!
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At this time we are still looking for guest speakers and topics
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of discussion for FidoCon '88. While no speaker can be of
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interest to everyone, we would like to see a broad range of
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topics discussed. Remember this is going to be a family event,
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not devoted entirely to the computer user! We'd be interested in
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hearing your suggestions. Please send your suggestions to
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Mark Walker at 1:108/50.
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If you have any comments or questions, please send your inquires
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to 1:1/88 or 1:108/62 via Netmail. Rick Ashworth or Tim
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Sullivan, operating the above nodes respectively, will get back
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to you as soon as possible.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 10 18 Apr 1988
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NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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16 May 1988
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Digital Equipment Corporations Users Society Spring Symposium.
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Will be held May 16-May 20 in Cincinnati, OH.
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25 Jun 1988
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EuroCon II starts in Tiel, Holland. Sponsored by the Dutch
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Hobby Computer Club. Will run for 2 days. Contact Hans
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Lichthelm at 2:2/999 for information.
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16 Jul 1988
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A new areacode, 508, will form in eastern Massachusetts and
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will be effective on this date. The new area code will be
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formed from the current areacode 617. Greater Boston will
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remain areacode 617 while the rest of eastern Massachusetts
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will form the new areacode 508.
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25 Aug 1988
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Start of the Fifth International FidoNet Conference, to be
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held at the Drawbridge Inn in Cincinnati, OH. Contact Tim
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Sullivan at 108/62 for more information. This is FidoNet's big
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annual get-together, and is your chance to meet all the people
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you've been talking with all this time. We're hoping to see
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you there!
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24 Aug 1989
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Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
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If you have something which you would like to see on this
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calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.
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John Pritchard, the Region 14 Coordinator has unexpectantly
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relinquished his responsibilities. Till a new RC can be
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appointed, I have asked Ken Kaplan to be Acting RC for the next
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few weeks.
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If you are interested in assuming the responsibilities of the
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Region 14 Coordinators position, please send netmail to David
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Dodell at 1/0. Please supply a brief narrative about your
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involvement in FidoNet, including any past positions held (i.e.
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Network Coordinator, Hub Coordinator, Echomail Coordinator.) It
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is highly recommended that you are running at least a 2400 baud
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modem, with 24 hour mail capabilities.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 11 18 Apr 1988
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Latest Software Versions
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BBS Systems Node List Other
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& Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version
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Dutchie 2.81* EditNL 3.3 ARC 5.21
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Fido 12g* MakeNL 2.03 ARCmail 1.1
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Opus 1.03b Prune 1.40 ConfMail 3.31
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SEAdog 4.10 XlatList 2.86* EchoMail 1.31
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TBBS 2.0M MGM 1.1
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BinkleyTerm 1.40*
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QuickBBS 2.00*
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* Recently changed
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Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by
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reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list
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all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 12 18 Apr 1988
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COMMITTEE REPORTS
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Nominations and Elections Committee
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1:103/501
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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* * U R G E N T ! ! ! * *
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* * * *
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* * There is still time for you to announce your candidacy * *
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* * for a position as a Director of IFNA. Candidates are * *
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* * required for Divisions 2, 10, 12, 14, 16, and 18. In * *
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* * addition, five more directors are required to fill at- * *
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* * large positions making a total of 11 in all. If you * *
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* * are interested in running for one of these positions, * *
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* * please send a message to 1:103/501 immediately. * *
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* * * *
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* * Nominating petitions, signed by 10 IFNA Members, must * *
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* * be in the hands of the IFNA secretary by April 27th, so * *
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* * please don't wait, express your interest now! * *
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* * * *
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 13 18 Apr 1988
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The World's First / \
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BBS Network /|oo \
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* FidoNet * (_| /_)
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/ Fido \ _//|| _\ /
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(________) (_/(_|(____/ (tm)
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Membership for the International FidoNet Association
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Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
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pays a specified annual membership fee. IFNA serves the
|
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international FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to
|
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increase worldwide communications.
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|
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Member Name _______________________________ Date _______________
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Address _________________________________________________________
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|
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Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in
|
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US Funds to:
|
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|
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|
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700 Bishop Street, #1014
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USA
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|
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Thank you for your membership! Your participation will help to
|
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insure the future of FidoNet.
|
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|
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Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
|
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and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
|
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membership in January 1987. The first elected Board of Directors
|
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was filled in August 1987. The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
|
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established on FidoNet to assist the Board. We welcome your
|
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input to this Conference.
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FidoNews 5-16 Page 14 18 Apr 1988
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INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
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ORDER FORM
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Publications
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The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido
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1:1/10 or other FidoNet compatible systems, or by purchasing
|
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them directly from IFNA. We ask that all our IFNA Committee
|
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Chairmen provide us with the latest versions of each
|
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publication, but we can make no written guarantees.
|
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|
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Hardcopy prices as of October 1, 1986
|
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|
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IFNA Fido BBS listing $15.00 _____
|
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IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs $10.00 _____
|
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IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs $10.00 _____
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|
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SUBTOTAL _____
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|
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IFNA Member ONLY Special Offers
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|
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System Enhancement Associates SEAdog $60.00 _____
|
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SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987
|
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ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member
|
||
|
||
Fido Software's Fido/FidoNet $100.00 _____
|
||
Fido/FidoNet price as of November 1, 1987
|
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ONLY 1 copy Fido/FidoNet per IFNA Member
|
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|
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International orders include $10.00 for
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surface shipping or $20.00 for air shipping _____
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HI. Residents add 4.0 % Sales tax _____
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|
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SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER IN US FUNDS:
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|
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USA
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|
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