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Volume 4, Number 35 14 September 1987
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Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet
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Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to
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submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission
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standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from
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node 1:1/1.
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Copyright 1987 by the International FidoNet Association. All
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rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for
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noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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What's IFNA Done for Me? ................................. 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 3
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A Call for Volunteers .................................... 3
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FCC EchoMail Conference .................................. 4
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MegaList: A Sysop's Answer To Finding Utilities .......... 5
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Research in Shareware -- A Questionnaire ................. 6
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 20
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The Regular Irregular Column ............................. 20
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Origin: Angevin Empire ................................... 24
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 25
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The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 25
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Latest Software Versions ................................. 25
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IFNA Order Form .......................................... 26
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IFNA Membership Application .............................. 27
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 1 14 Sep 1987
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EDITORIAL
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What's IFNA Done for Me?
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IFNA (the International FidoNet Association) has been in
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existance for over a year now. In that time, what has it
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accomplished that's worth anything? Offhand it doesn't look like
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much has happened. Oh, there's been lots of talk about what IFNA
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could do someday, or what it might do if we want, but what has it
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actually done so far? Not much, by all appearances.
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But there's more than meets the eye. Here are few things that
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IFNA does for us right now:
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1) Non-profit status. This was the main impetus for forming
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IFNA in the first place. People sent in money to help with
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the expenses, but it showed up on Ken Kaplan's income tax
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return as extra income, and the expenses were not deductible.
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Yes, I know that our tax-exempt status has not been approved
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yet, but in the meanwhile we have a sort of "provisional" tax
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exempt status, until the IRS makes up its mind. (This could
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actually work against Ken if the IRS turns us down. The IRS
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has a nasty habit of deciding that it never was exempt after
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all, and then demanding back taxes with penalties and
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interest.)
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2) Limited liability on nodelist compilation. This is more
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important than it sounds. Suppose someone sends in a node
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list update that has someone's voice number in it? Before,
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the guy who publishes the list (first Tom Jennings, later Ken
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Kaplan, and now Ben Baker) could have been held personally
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liable for damages. Now it's IFNA that bears the brunt.
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IFNA could possibly be destroyed by such a lawsuit, but at
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least Ben won't loose his house.
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3) Limited liability on FidoNews. This one is near and dear to
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my heart. I don't always have time to look over the articles
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before they are published, so it's not that unlikely for
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something legally actionable to slip through. Twice that I
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know of someone sent in an article that contained copyrighted
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material. One I caught in time, the other slipped through.
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Then there's always the possibility that a submitted article
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could result in a lawsuit for libel. I like publishing
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FidoNews, but if you don't mind I'd really rather not put my
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own neck on a chopping block.
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4) Accountability. This is probably the single most important
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thing that IFNA does for sysops. Prior to IFNA becoming a
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membership organization, there was no accountability. The
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people at the top could do whatever they wanted, and nobody
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had anything to say about it. But now IFNA provides a
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structure where the people at the very top are directly
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 2 14 Sep 1987
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accountable to the sysops.
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5) Orderly changes in management. This especially is something
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that is not readily apparent, but is quite important. There
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never used to be any mechanism for the people at the top to
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be replaced in an orderly fashion. Now there is, and it's
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even happened. Ken Kaplan used to be the International
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Coordinator and the President of IFNA. One of the first
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things the new board did was to replace him in those
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positions, making Ben Baker the International Coordinator and
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Don Daniels the President of IFNA.
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So what has IFNA done for me lately? A few things. Nothing
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flashy, nothing broad and obvious, just a few things that really
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needed to be done.
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 3 14 Sep 1987
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ARTICLES
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Need Volunteers For Membership Services Committee
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Phil Ardussi 1:157/1
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IFNA By Laws state, "The Membership Services Committee
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performs studies and makes recommendations to the Board, and
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acts as advisor to the President, with regard to services
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provided to individual members, other than publications and
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including, but not limited to the ANNUAL MEETING."
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We will need several sub committees. One of them is to make
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recommendations to the Board of Directors no later than 12/31/87
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on the site(s) for the next FidoCon.
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Another subcommittee, already established, will be
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responsible for keeping the membership roster. This important
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job will be done by Norm Henke, 157/200.
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Moreover, I believe we should also be responsible and
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accountable for the distribution of software sold in connection
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with IFNA membership.
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Other areas will probably include membership development,
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membership communications, and other jobs which might come to
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your mind as you read this and think about our responsibility.
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I need to hear from you no later than 9/9/87 if you wish to
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serve. If your response is positive, please at the same time
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set up an EchoMail conference for your board only called MEMSER.
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We will use that for communicating and I will serve as the
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center of the star topology.
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Suggestions, comments, anyone? Volunteers gratefully
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accepted.
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Phil Ardussi
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1:157/1
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 4 14 Sep 1987
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Jim Cannell
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128/13
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FCC ECHOMAIL CONFERENCE
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The threat to FidoNet of additional access charges to value added
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carriers as proposed by the FCC in Docket No. 87-215 is real. A
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large number of us use such services as GTE's PC Pursuit. An
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additional $5.00 an hour charge there will price it out of the
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range of most FidoNet sysops.
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What can we do about this threat? There is the usual method of
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writing letters to the FCC Commissioners, as well as Senators and
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Representatives. A better solution exists. Let's use the tools
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of FidoNet itself to fight our battle. On the COSUG BBS system
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(128/13), we have established an FCC EchoMail conference to
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discuss how the actions of the FCC and other regulatory agencies
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affect the world of data communications.
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Any node may participate in the conference as long as the
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following ground rules are observed:
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1. Keep the discussion topics on the subject of
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telecommunications regulation.
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2. No flames or personal attacks will be tolerated. Discuss the
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issues, not the personalities.
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3. All messages entered into this area will be forwarded to the
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FCC as well as Representatives and Senators involved in
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Telecommunications policy. If you ask that a particular
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message not be forwarded to the FCC or that your name be
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witheld, that request will be honored.
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4. Any node forwarding this conference to other nodes may not
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alter the contents of any of the messages. You can do what
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you want with the area after you have forwarded it.
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We invite all of you to participate in the FCC Echo. Since
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FidoNet has telecommunications power distributed among all BBS
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sysops and users, we are a very real threat to the bureaucratic
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mind that wants to run everything from Washington. Let's keep
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the power of communication away from centralized authority, and
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use our combined effort to defeat the FCC.
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There are several nodes around the country already carrying the
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FCC EchoMail Conference, including some of the backbone nodes.
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If you are not able to get the conference from your regular
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EchoMail connection, send a message to me at 128/13 and we'll get
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you connected.
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 5 14 Sep 1987
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Gene Coppola
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The Big Gulp, 107/246
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MegaList: A Sysop's Answer To Finding Utilities
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Chris was in one of his more creative moods the other day; he's
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finally written a system that I've wanted for quite some time
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now: MegaList.
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The "MegaList" is an alphabetized file listing that combines the
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files from ALL PARTICIPATING Fido/Opus systems.
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If you've ever needed a file, but didn't know where to find it,
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the MegaList is a good place to look; scan down the list for the
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file you need, and listed next to it are the BBSs that have it
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online.
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The MegaList is available for download or SEAdog file request
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from 135/68 or 107/246. The following files are online now:
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MEGALIST.ARC/TXT The National (unfiltered) MegaList
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MEGA-ARC.ARC/TXT The National ARChive MegaList
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ML-UPD.ARC MegaList Update Software (Latest)
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YOUR system can be added to the NATIONAL MegaList if you simply
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run the update program, ML-UPD. This program will create an
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update file based on YOUR system information and FILES.BBS
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contents. This data is then ARCed and Net-mailed to 135/68 for
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central collection. The NATIONAL MegaList is updated each day at
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6:15AM and posted for download or file request.
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Placing your system in the MegaList will let the rest of the
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world know what's on your system without everyone having to call
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and look. The ML-UPD program is easy and only takes about 1-2
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minutes to run. All you must do is send a MegaList update to
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Miami at least once every 45 days, and you will be in the daily
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MegaList update.
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This software is great for regions and nets as well. We here in
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net 107 have started our own Megalist called (FILES107.ARC from
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107/246) which contains all the latest software for OPUS/Fido
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sysops. While this is primarily for Net 107 Sysops, we can
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incorporate our files into the national MegaList as well.
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In the case of Net 107, participating systems send 107/246 there
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updates who then uses the ML-COL software to prepare our own
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MegaList.
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I think this is a GREAT concept which should be put to use by
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every Net and or Region. Imagine if you, a complete list of all
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the software on every Fido/Opus system !
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 6 14 Sep 1987
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Jay Mendell
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Fido 135/6
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FLORIDA ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY
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Boca Raton, Florida 33431
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Dr. Jay S. Mendell, Professor of Public Administration
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Office (305) 393-3674, Rotates to Secretary on 5th Ring
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Home, YOUR BEST BET, (305) 755-8928, Okay to Try from 9 to 9,
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Seven Days
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FidoNet 135/6
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Usenet jay@ankh.UUCP
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David Georgoff, Ph.D., Professor of Marketing
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September 5, 1987
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We are trying to collect the facts about the shareware
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phenomenon, so we have written the attached questionnaire. We
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desperately need to hear from as many shareware authors and
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publishers as we can.
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IF YOU ARE A SHAREWARE AUTHOR OR PUBLISHER, YOU CAN HELP BY
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PRINTING THE ENCLOSED QUESTIONNAIRE TO PAPER AND ANSWERING ALL
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OUR QUESTIONS AND MAILING US THE RESULTS. WE WILL SEND THE
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TABULATED RESULTS TO ANY ADDRESS YOU REQUEST, AND WE WILL PAY
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THE POSTAGE.
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IF YOU ARE A SHAREWARE USER, YOU CAN HELP BY COPYING THIS FILE
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TO AS MANY BULLETIN BOARDS AS YOU CAN. IF YOU SEND US A STAMPED
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(2 OZ.), ADDRESSED ENVELOPE, WE WILL SEND YOU THE TABULATED
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RESULTS. MARK THE ENVELOPE "SHAREWARE."
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After we have received the answers to our questions, we will
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send the tabulated results to every shareware author or
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publisher we have heard from, and every shareware user who sends
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us a stamped (assume 2 oz.), addressed envelope.
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We will also offer the results in the FidoNet newsletter, and we
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will encourage circulation on bulletin boards.
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If we have received at least 200 questionnaires by December 15,
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1987, we will use our vacation to tabulate the results and start
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mailing them out. But it will never be too late to write us.
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As soon as we have collected these facts Jay Mendell will
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tabulate the results and send you or anyone you designate a
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summary copy Later, Dave Georgoff will add material on
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the theory of marketing channels and send our article to
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a scholarly journal in the marketing field.
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So, if you answer our questionnaire, you will very quickly
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receive the direct benefit of comparing yourself with our other
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respondents (this should help you make better business
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decisions), and you will help marketing professors understand
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 7 14 Sep 1987
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what shareware means to their field.
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A project like this depends on our hearing from as many authors
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and publishers of shareware as possible. We really do need your
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answers. Remember, you will soon be reading the tabulated
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answers others have given to these questions.
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Following the ethics of university researchers, We will treat
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the information you give us as strictly confidential. We will
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never identify you by name or violate your confidences by
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writing about you in a way that might permit others to identify
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you. In fact, we wil never actually be sure who you are, since
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we are not asking for your own name, just the name and address
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of someone we can mail the tabulated results to.
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Although the questionnaire is long, many of the questions can be
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answered with a checkmark.
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If you want to communicate with us electronically, direct a
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message to JAY MENDELL at FidoNet node 135/6 or jay@ankh.UUCP
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on usenet. Jay checks his net mail daily.
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PART ONE: PLEASE TELL US HOW YOU SPEND YOUR TIME AND MAKE A
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LIVING.
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1. We want to know if you are involved fulltime or part-
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time in authoring or publishing shareware. Please tell us how
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you (the principal author or publisher) divide your time
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between the development of shareware and other income producing
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activities.
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Outside employment _________________ hr/wk
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in someone else's
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employ
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Self-employment
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in shareware _________________ hr/wk
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Self-employment
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other than
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in shareware _________________ hr/wk
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Activities
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that support all
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the above but cannot
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be allocated __________________ hr/wk
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2. During the last year, what percentage of your income
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came from each of the items below? These figures should add up
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to 100%. They refer to the situation of the principal author or
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publisher.
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 8 14 Sep 1987
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Working with
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computers for
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someone else _______________ %
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Working for someone
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else, not with
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computers _______________ %
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Self-employment, not
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in computers _______________ %
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Self-employment
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in shareware
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________________ %
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Self-employment,
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in computers,
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outside shareware ________________ %
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Other income
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(Investment, etc. Use
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your own words) _________________ %
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__________________________________________________
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3. Is the principal author or publisher involved with
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coauthors in the development of shareware?
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_________ Yes. Extensively involved
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_________ Yes. Involved to a degree.
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_________ No.
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4. Does the principal author or publisher currently employ
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others to assist in the administration of shareware activities?
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____________ Yes (GO TO QUESTION 5)
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____________ No (GO TO QUESTION 6)
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5. If you answered yes to question 4 directly above:
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(a) How many individuals are employed by the principal in
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the administration of the shareware activities? Allocate their
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time (e.g., one half-time employee engaged full-time in
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shareware plus one full-time employee engaged half-time on
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shareware equal one full-time equivalent employee).
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___________ Number of full-time equivalent employees
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(Okay to use decimals and fractions.)
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(b) What is the current weekly total of salaries and
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commissions allocated to your shareware activities? Do not
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include money drawn by the principal.
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$__________ Total weekly salaries and commissions you
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allocate to shareware.
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PART TWO: PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR PRODUCTS AND PRICES.
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6. Please list here the various shareware products you have
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authored or published. Include discontinued programs. Tell us
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the price or donation requested from an individual user for each
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product. (This would be the price for the fullest support you
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provide, such as manual, AND update service, AND phone queries,
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and so forth.)
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TYPE NUMBER OF PRODUCTS AVERAGE PRICE
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OF THIS TYPE
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Word Processing_____ _________________ $______________
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Spreadsheet_________ _________________ $______________
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Database____________ _________________ $______________
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Communications______ _________________ $______________
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Graphics____________ _________________ $______________
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Finance/Real Estate_ _________________ $______________
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Accounting__________ _________________ $______________
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Statistical_________ _________________ $______________
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Utilities and Others
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(Describe)__________ _________________ $_______________
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____________________ _________________ $______________
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____________________ _________________ $______________
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You may add a sheet to the end of this questionnaire, if we
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haven't provided sufficient room, or if our categories don't fit
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your product.
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7. Have you discontinued marketing any of the above
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software? If you have, please tell us why. Do not bother to
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explain versions replaced by improvements.
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TYPE OF PRODUCT
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DISCONTINUED REASON
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____________________ ______________________________________
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____________________ ______________________________________
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____________________ ______________________________________
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____________________ ______________________________________
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____________________ ______________________________________
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 10 14 Sep 1987
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____________________ ______________________________________
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____________________ ______________________________________
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8. Considering the value to the users, do you feel most
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shareware (not just your own) is currently priced:
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_______ Very high
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_______ High
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_______ Somewhat high
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_______ About right
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_______ Somewhat low
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_______ Low
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_______ Very low
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9. Considering the financial condition of the users, do you
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feel most shareware (not just your own) is currently priced:
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_______ Very high
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_______ High
|
||
_______ Somewhat high
|
||
_______ About right
|
||
_______ Somewhat low
|
||
_______ Low
|
||
_______ Very low
|
||
|
||
|
||
10. Considering the effort, creativity, and investment of
|
||
the authors, do you feel most shareware (not just your own) is
|
||
currently priced:
|
||
|
||
|
||
_______ Very high
|
||
_______ High
|
||
_______ Somewhat high
|
||
_______ About right
|
||
_______ Somewhat low
|
||
_______ Low
|
||
_______ Very low
|
||
|
||
|
||
11. Have you ever had to raise or lower the price of a
|
||
product?
|
||
|
||
_____ Yes, priced too high or low for value to users.
|
||
|
||
_____ Yes, priced too high or low for finances of users.
|
||
|
||
_____ Yes, priced too high or low in terms of my input of
|
||
effort, creativity, and financial investment.
|
||
|
||
_____ Yes, priced to high or low for other reasons.
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 11 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
Explain: ___________________________________________
|
||
|
||
____________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
_____ No, have never raised or lowered our prices.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
PART THREE. TELL US ABOUT GETTING STARTED IN SHAREWARE.
|
||
|
||
|
||
12. Which of the following statements best describes your
|
||
goal for the shareware you have authored or published. Select
|
||
only the best answer.
|
||
|
||
_______ Developed it solely to make a profit on its sale.
|
||
|
||
_______ Developed it for other than profit, but expected to
|
||
make a profit on its sale.
|
||
|
||
_______ Developed it for other than profit, but hoped to
|
||
make a profit on its sale.
|
||
|
||
_______ Did not expect to make a profit on its sale.
|
||
|
||
_______ Other objective (in your words) ____________________
|
||
_____________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
|
||
13. How much did you (the principal and any investors)
|
||
initially invest to launch your shareware authoring and
|
||
publishing venture, based on dollars invested over and above
|
||
your other computer activities? DO NOT INCLUDE hardware or
|
||
software purchases unless they were specifically required to
|
||
support your shareware venture. DO NOT INCLUDE salary or
|
||
commissions or other income you gave up or passed up in order to
|
||
launch this venture.
|
||
|
||
$ ______________________
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
14. How would you rate your ability to calculate the above
|
||
figure using sound accounting principles?
|
||
|
||
________ I based answers on very careful accounting
|
||
|
||
________ Some accounting principles were understood and
|
||
taken into consideration
|
||
|
||
________ A rough estimate probably resulted in a roughly
|
||
accurate answer
|
||
|
||
________ A very approximate calculation was made.
|
||
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 12 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
15. How pleased are you with the return you have so far
|
||
received on your shareware venture? In this question, DO take
|
||
into account salaries, commissions, and other opportunities that
|
||
were foregone to launch the shareware venture.
|
||
|
||
_______ Very pleased with my return
|
||
|
||
_______ Somewhat pleased with my return
|
||
|
||
_______ Somewhat displeased with my return
|
||
|
||
_______ Very displeased with my return
|
||
|
||
|
||
16. Do you intend to continue to author and publish
|
||
software? Check all the answers that apply.
|
||
|
||
__________ I plan to continue in shareware by disseminating
|
||
fully functioning programs and hoping for
|
||
donations.
|
||
|
||
---------- I plan to disseminate demonstration programs and
|
||
require a contribution to furnish full
|
||
featured versions.
|
||
|
||
---------- I plan to "graduate" to fully commercial
|
||
distribution, with no samples, demos,
|
||
or shareware.
|
||
|
||
__________ Other: ____________________________________________
|
||
|
||
___________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
___________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
|
||
PART FOUR. PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDES, VALUES, AND
|
||
BELIEFS
|
||
|
||
Let us know how strongly you agree or disagree with each
|
||
statement, by circling the appropriate answers.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
17. I enjoy working for
|
||
a large organization,
|
||
or I think I would.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
|
||
18. Commercial advertis-
|
||
ing,marketing, and product
|
||
promotion are, by and
|
||
large, misleading and
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 13 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
are intended to confuse
|
||
people.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
19. I would consider myself
|
||
more of a "technical"
|
||
than a "business" person.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
20. I can accept close super-
|
||
vision of my work.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
21. I consider myself very
|
||
creative.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
22. I enjoy taking risks and
|
||
I admire risktakers.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
23. Most entrepreneurs are
|
||
imprudent risktakers.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
24. If you commit yourself
|
||
to the interests of an
|
||
organization, the organization
|
||
will take advantage of you.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
25. Most organizations
|
||
recognize and reward merit.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
26. Commercial advertising,
|
||
marketing, and product
|
||
promotion are, generally,
|
||
ineffective.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 14 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
27. A really good product
|
||
doesn't need advertising
|
||
and marketing to succeed.
|
||
|
||
Strongly Somewhat Somewhat Strongly
|
||
Agree Agree Agree Disagree Disagree Disagree
|
||
|
||
|
||
28. What percentage of people do you think pay for shareware
|
||
that they use?
|
||
|
||
|
||
___________ %
|
||
|
||
|
||
29. What percentage of people do you think pay for the
|
||
commercially distributed software that they use?
|
||
|
||
__________ %
|
||
|
||
|
||
30. Has your authoring and publishing changed your sentiment
|
||
toward people?
|
||
|
||
_________ I am more cynical about people
|
||
|
||
_________ I feel about the same toward people
|
||
|
||
_________ I am less cynical about people
|
||
|
||
|
||
31. Do you pay for shareware that you use regularly?
|
||
|
||
|
||
_________ Always
|
||
|
||
_________ Sometimes
|
||
|
||
_________ Seldom
|
||
|
||
________ Never
|
||
|
||
|
||
PART FIVE. PLEASE TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT MARKETING AND
|
||
WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN MARKETING
|
||
|
||
|
||
Have you had education and experience in marketing?
|
||
|
||
None Some Considerable
|
||
____________________________________
|
||
|
||
32. Marketing Education ____ _____ ____
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 15 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
33. Marketing Experience ____ _____ ____
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
34. Do you collect any of the following information on
|
||
commercially distributed products that compete with your own?
|
||
|
||
_________ Collect and study sales figures, market share
|
||
|
||
________ Study product reviews
|
||
|
||
_________ Obtain the product and test it
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
35. Do you collect any of the following information on
|
||
shareware products that compete with your own?
|
||
|
||
_________ Collect and study sales figures, market share
|
||
|
||
________ Study product reviews
|
||
|
||
_________ Obtain the product and test it
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
36. Before developing a new product, have you ever conducted
|
||
a systematic survey of what users might need? Check all the
|
||
applicable answers
|
||
|
||
_____________ Conduct systematic surveys of prospective users.
|
||
|
||
_____________ Conduct an informal survey of prospective users.
|
||
|
||
_____________ Extensively discuss product availabilities and/or
|
||
user needs with other people in computers.
|
||
|
||
_____________ Collect information on sales and market trends and
|
||
developments.
|
||
|
||
_____________ Systematically evaluate new hardware.
|
||
|
||
|
||
______________ Do little or none of the above, but depend on
|
||
intuition and "gut feel" for the business.
|
||
|
||
|
||
37. What is needed most in shareware? Check UP TO THREE
|
||
ITEMS.
|
||
|
||
____________ Daring new approaches
|
||
|
||
____________ Extensions or refinements of existing commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 16 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
____________ Integration or combination of existing commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
____________ Inexpensive versions of successful commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
____________ Simplified versions of successful commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
____________ Other.
|
||
Please describe: _____________________________
|
||
|
||
______________________________________________
|
||
|
||
____________ Shareware is in a class by itself and should not
|
||
imitate commercial products.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
38. And how would you describe your products?
|
||
|
||
|
||
_________ Daring new approaches
|
||
|
||
_________ Extensions or refinements of existing commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
_________ Integration or combination of existing commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
________ Inexpensive versions of successful commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
________ Simplified versions of successful commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
_________ Other.
|
||
Please describe: _________________________
|
||
|
||
_________________________________________
|
||
|
||
_________ Shareware is in a class by itself and should not
|
||
imitate commercial products.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
PART SIX; PLEASE TELL US HOW YOU LAUNCH AND SUPPORT YOUR
|
||
PRODUCTS
|
||
|
||
|
||
39. How do you launch your products? Please check all
|
||
applicable answers. Don't tell us where you hope your shareware
|
||
will end up. Tell us where you put it yourself.
|
||
|
||
_____________ Post them on my own bulletin board
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 17 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
_____________ Post them on local bulletin boards
|
||
|
||
_____________ Post them on bulletin boards nationally
|
||
|
||
_____________ Post them on CompuServe, The Source, etc.
|
||
Please list here the national services
|
||
|
||
__________________________
|
||
|
||
__________________________
|
||
|
||
____________ Distribute them to users groups
|
||
|
||
____________ Give copies to friends
|
||
|
||
____________ Advertise
|
||
|
||
____________ Other
|
||
|
||
|
||
40. Do you maintain your own bulletin board?
|
||
____________ (Y or N)
|
||
|
||
41. How do you support your product? Check all applicable
|
||
answers
|
||
|
||
________ Dedicated bulletin board
|
||
|
||
________ Telephone voice calls during business hours
|
||
|
||
________ Telephone voice calls evenings and/or weekends
|
||
|
||
________ Electronic messages via bulletin boards
|
||
|
||
________ Electronic messages via Compuserve, etc.
|
||
|
||
|
||
41. Would you say your products require of the user more or
|
||
less computer expertise than commercial products?
|
||
|
||
______________ Require more computer expertise
|
||
|
||
______________ Require same expertise
|
||
|
||
______________ Require less expertise
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
PART FIVE. THE $64,000 QUESTION
|
||
|
||
42. How do you think you stand in gross volume, compared
|
||
with others in shareware?
|
||
|
||
|
||
________ Top 10%. Doing better than 90% of competition.
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 18 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
________ Top 25%. Doing better than 75% of competition.
|
||
|
||
________ Top 50%. Doing better than 50% of competition.
|
||
|
||
________ Bottom 50%
|
||
|
||
|
||
PART SIX. A FEW MORE IMPERTINENT QUESTIONS, FOR THE STATISTICIANS
|
||
|
||
|
||
43. Your age in years _______________
|
||
|
||
44. Your sex ________________________ (Male or female)
|
||
|
||
45. Extent of formal education
|
||
|
||
_______ Did not complete high school
|
||
_______ Completed high school
|
||
_______ Some college, no degree.
|
||
_______ Graduated junior college. Major ___________
|
||
_______ Graduate four-year program. Major _________
|
||
_______ Masters degree. Major ______________
|
||
_______ Ph.D., Ed.D., J.D., etc. Major __________
|
||
|
||
|
||
46. How many years of work experience and/or supporting
|
||
self?
|
||
|
||
__________ years.
|
||
|
||
|
||
47. In what industry are you currently employed? _________
|
||
|
||
48. What is your current position in that industry? ______
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
49. Where did you encounter this questionnaire (name
|
||
of bulletin board, areacode, phone, city and state.)
|
||
|
||
__________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
On what date did you encounter it? ______________________
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
My U. S. Mail address is Dr. Jay S. Mendell
|
||
College of Business and Public
|
||
Administration
|
||
FLORIDA ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY
|
||
Boca Raton, Florida 33431
|
||
|
||
|
||
My FidoNet address is Jay Mendell, Node 135/6
|
||
Usenet jay@ankh.UUCP
|
||
I answer my net-mail daily.
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 19 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
May we please have the name and address to which you want the
|
||
tabulated results sent? We will not assume that they are YOUR
|
||
name and address.
|
||
|
||
___________________________________________________________
|
||
___________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
Thanks for your help.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Integration or combination of existing commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
____________ Inexpensive versions of successful commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
____________ Simplified versions of successful commercial
|
||
products.
|
||
|
||
____________ Other.
|
||
Please describe: _____________________________
|
||
|
||
______________________________________________
|
||
|
||
____________ Shareware is in a class by itself and should not
|
||
imitate commercial products.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
38. And how would you describe your products?
|
||
|
||
|
||
_________ Daring new approaches
|
||
|
||
_________ Extensions or refinem
|
||
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 20 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
COLUMNS
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
-- The Regular Irregular Column --
|
||
Dale Lovell
|
||
157/504
|
||
|
||
I'm going to use this first paragraph to bring my initial
|
||
FidoCon report to a close. Sorry it took so long, but I've been
|
||
busy catching up at work for the two days I missed while I was at
|
||
the convention. But, even if it had taken a month to get things
|
||
back to "normal" it would have been worth it! For those of you
|
||
who were unable to attend, I know I missed meeting you. While in
|
||
some ways this electronic medium is superior to meetings and get
|
||
togethers, being able to associate a face with a name makes
|
||
everything seem a little bit more real. The electronic medium is
|
||
also missing much that is present in face-to-face conversations.
|
||
Differences and problems seem to quickly fade once you physically
|
||
meet and talk to someone. For those of you I missed at FidoCon
|
||
and those who couldn't make it, I hope to have a chance to meet
|
||
you at next year's FidoCon. Enough with that for now, and on with
|
||
the column.
|
||
|
||
-- Fast Forward (Mark Williams Co., List $69.95) --
|
||
|
||
In a past issue someone else examined several of the disk
|
||
cache programs available today. After reading the article, I
|
||
decided to start looking at a few and see for myself how well
|
||
they worked. I'm starting off with Fast Forward because on my
|
||
weekly trip to my local dealer, I came across it (he had just
|
||
gotten his first shipment in a few days earlier). While this is
|
||
not the most scientific of methods, it was the most convenient.
|
||
For those of you who missed the article on caches I'll briefly
|
||
describe how they work. Normally every time you read information
|
||
off a drive; the program tells the computer to go get this
|
||
information, the computer proceeds to turn on the drive and move
|
||
the heads to the proper position and read the information off the
|
||
disk. If a little while later you go and get the same data, the
|
||
computer follows the identical procedure. In many cases the
|
||
computer has to get several pieces of information, most programs
|
||
and data files use more than one section of the disk and the
|
||
computer then has to move the heads around as it finds all the
|
||
individual parts of a program or file. Many FidoNet sysops have
|
||
discovered that a directory is treated as a file and at 800 plus
|
||
messages being normal in some of the echomail conferences (with
|
||
each message being a separate file), the directory can become a
|
||
"little" fragmented. Before the computer can read a message it
|
||
has to search through the directory and find out where the file
|
||
starts (with the computer taking several tries just to find out
|
||
where the file starts). The end result with the larger echomail
|
||
conferences is that the disk drive starts to sound like a
|
||
drowning cat.
|
||
|
||
A cache is a memory resident program that can help remove
|
||
this problem. A cache keeps the most recent disk data in RAM (in
|
||
FidoNews 4-35 Page 21 14 Sep 1987
|
||
|
||
|
||
my case a little over the last 100K of data). When the program
|
||
tells the computer to get this data, a cache checks and sees if
|
||
it already has the data in RAM. If it does, there is no delay.
|
||
The computer never deals with the physically slow drive. Instead
|
||
it merely retrieves the data out of the cache memory. Most cache
|
||
programs allow you to control how much memory is used for the
|
||
cache and you can "customize" it for your particular purposes.
|
||
For instance whether you want the floppy drives to be cached, do
|
||
you want the program to use expanded memory, and of course how
|
||
much RAM to use.
|
||
|
||
Fast Forward has done very well in the performance
|
||
department. I know it's cut at least 20% off my echomail
|
||
processing time (I echo over 25 different conferences to half of
|
||
my local net). My only disappointment has been that it can't use
|
||
my AT extended memory, only Lotus/Intel/Microsoft expanded
|
||
memory. It installed in minutes just by copying the files and
|
||
running an install program to tell it about my higher logical
|
||
drives (E:). I also didn't want it caching the floppy drives and
|
||
wanted to use Alt-F as the hot key for the on-line menu. Fast
|
||
Forward also gave me three different options on what to do with
|
||
data being written to the hard drive. The first option is the
|
||
safest and it always writes the data to the hard drive (as well
|
||
as saving it in the cache). Option two was to store everything in
|
||
the cache until the cache filled up and than dump to the disk. I
|
||
wasn't quite ready to trust this option because if there's a
|
||
power failure or a system crash, you literally lose all the
|
||
information that was in the cache. The last option is a comprise
|
||
between the two, it will dump the cache to disk every couple of
|
||
minutes and you control length of time. I was willing to try this
|
||
out and it did work very well. My problem is that I'm not willing
|
||
to trust everything to a cache that wasn't a write through cache
|
||
(option 1). I'm not sure what would happen if something went
|
||
wrong before it had a chance to update a FAT table or a new
|
||
directory entry, and I don't want to find out.
|
||
|
||
Any sysops out there would be well advised to find a good
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cache program. As echomail traffic increases you'll have more and
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more message files in every conference. A good cache program can
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save your hard drive a lot of wear and tear. The small investment
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could help keep an expensive piece of equipment working, and I
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know what it feels like to lose a hard drive (suffice to say it
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wasn't a pretty sight). Fast Forward was more than up to the
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tasks I tried it on (echomail processing, indexing databases,
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etc.) and I'm very satisfied with it. My only complaints are that
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it doesn't use AT extended RAM and won't work with RLL
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controllers. Both of these drawbacks are going to be corrected in
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an upcoming version.
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-- The Norton On-Line Programmer's Guides (prices vary) --
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Peter Norton Computing has brought us another great utility.
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This time it's aimed primarily at programmers, although it could
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be used for a variety of purposes. They're online guides for
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languages and such. They're currently available for BASIC,
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Pascal, C, and Assembler. I purchased a twin pack of the C and
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 22 14 Sep 1987
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Assembler guides and got four disks. One disk was the Norton
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Instant Access program, you'll find this disk in all of the
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packages and can even buy it separately from Norton Computing. My
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other disks included one disk with the Assembler database and two
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more disks with C databases, one for Microsoft C and another for
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Turbo C. The individual databases are available for $50 (the same
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price as the Instant Access program). Dealer's are being shipped
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packages which contain the retrieval program and one database and
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there are two twin packs like I purchased (C and Assembler, and
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Pascal and Assembler). The guides I've got are very complete. The
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manuals on my shelf are finally being given a rest. The assembler
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guide is more complete in some ways than the appendices in
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"Advanced MS-DOS" by Ray Duncan for Bios and DOS function calls.
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In short I'm very impressed with Norton's On-Line Guides.
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There are several options available to you in the Guides.
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Among them a choice between a half-screen and full screen mode.
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In the half screen mode the guide will pop-up on the section the
|
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cursor isn't, or if the cursor's near the top then the guides
|
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will pop up near the bottom. This helps to assure that you can
|
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work around the guide. Hot key selection is another choice that
|
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I'm glad to see in Norton's Guides. Too many of today's Terminate
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and Stay Resident programs don't allow you to select their hot
|
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key and as a result you're forced to choose between two useful
|
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utilities. You're also able to select the database you wish to
|
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use, so you can keep several on-line at any point in time. The
|
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database itself is stored on your hard drive with only the
|
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retrieval program being resident in memory. You also have the
|
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capability of creating your own databases (I'm working on a
|
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reference for SEAdog so I can finally leave the manual on my
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shelf). There's also a search capability for the database, so if
|
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you know what something does you should be able to get all the
|
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information on it.
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The C reference has been useful since I usually remember the
|
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function, but not the calling procedures. In addition to a full
|
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description of each function, you also get a small sample piece
|
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of code. While most of the descriptions aren't as complete as the
|
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original C manuals, it's been a lot easier to keep the Norton
|
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Guides on-line rather than having manuals stacked all over my
|
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desk. The assembler guides are also very nice. While they only
|
||
cover the 8088 instruction set, I haven't even mastered 8088
|
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assembly language yet so it should be some time before I need the
|
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instruction sets for the 80286 and 80386. In addition to the
|
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databases supplied, you can create your own databases. Norton
|
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Computing makes it relatively easy to do by including the same
|
||
utilities they used to create the databases. Let me know how you
|
||
feel about that SEAdog reference and I'll let everyone know when
|
||
it's done. Overall I am very impressed with Norton's On-Line
|
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Guides and heartily recommend it to anyone who programs (just
|
||
make sure to get the databases for the languages you use).
|
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|
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-- Winding down... --
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|
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I came across a good book this past week that actually fits
|
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in well with the rest of this column. It's "Supercharging C with
|
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 23 14 Sep 1987
|
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|
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|
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Assembly Language" by Harry R. Chesley and Mitchell Waite (The
|
||
Waite Group/Addison-Wesley, list $22.95). This book can help many
|
||
of you bridge the gap between being a passable C programmer and a
|
||
professional quality C/Assembler programmer. C and Assembly
|
||
language really do fit together very well and Supercharging C
|
||
helps explain how to optimize your C programs using assembly
|
||
language. Chesley and Waite go over how to access all of the
|
||
peripherals we so depend on from both the ROM BIOS and direct
|
||
hardware manipulation of the devices. They even "develop" a
|
||
histogram program to help find out where the bottlenecks are in a
|
||
program. Even if you've never learned about assembly language,
|
||
but are programming in C for MS-DOS machines, read this book.
|
||
After trying some of the problems and exercises in the book, I
|
||
can realize how much I was limiting (and slowing down) my
|
||
programs by using some generic functions instead of creating a
|
||
few well written, specific assembly functions. For those C
|
||
programmer's out there who are just a little curious about
|
||
assembly language, there's an appendix in the back titled
|
||
"Appendix A C Programmers' Assembly Language Introduction." Just
|
||
what some of my friends are going to need, won't they be happy
|
||
and surprised at me!
|
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|
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Sorry for my little vacation here. It feels strange in a
|
||
way, I finally lived up to the Irregular part of the title! As
|
||
always I welcome your comments and suggestions. Below you'll find
|
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several different addresses for me. For those of you sending
|
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FidoNet Netmail, all my inbound mail has to be routed through
|
||
157/1 (157/0) as I'm a private node in the nodelist. Next week's
|
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column should start catching up on the great stuff I brought back
|
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from FidoCon as well as a new game.
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Dale Lovell
|
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3266 Vezber Drive
|
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Seven Hills, OH 44131
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FidoNet 1:157/504.1
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uucp:
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FidoNews 4-35 Page 24 14 Sep 1987
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O r i g i n : A n g e v i n E m p i r e
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|
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Issue #2: Users? What Users?
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Aaron Priven (1:161/1154)
|
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|
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Sometimes I feel like I'm living in the movie TRON. Remember
|
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that? 'Programs' in the system were told that there weren't
|
||
really any users, that there was never really anything like a
|
||
user, and not to worry about them. That reminds me of FidoNet.
|
||
|
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Now, I'm not saying that nobody cares about the users. But at
|
||
no level in the structure are the users consulted. There's no
|
||
place for us to get our views heard, except through our sysop(s).
|
||
We're not allowed on the INFA echomail, or the sysop echomail, or
|
||
the private Net echomails. Now I realize there ought to be some
|
||
private sysopy things ("How to Kill a System" comes to mind) but
|
||
*surely* there is no reason why the majority of these conferences
|
||
should be hidden from the ordinary users (unless you're trying to
|
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conceal the fact that sysops have tempers!). I myself have had
|
||
access to many of these areas (thanks to a temporary condition,
|
||
and very nice sysops) and have not once found anything that had
|
||
to remain secret. It was never once considered that any user
|
||
might have an interesting idea or a better way to do things.
|
||
Maybe they won't -- but you could ask, you know?
|
||
|
||
And node-to-node mail -- talk about sysop-only. I have never
|
||
heard yet of a sysop who actually made an honest attempt to
|
||
figure the costs of mail and attempted to deal with the
|
||
completely unused 'credit' and 'debit' parts of Fido/Opus. Many
|
||
boards won't even let a user *try* to enter a message -- even to
|
||
send to a local (no-cost) board! (Reasoning for us doing so: lost
|
||
passwords, "why are you down".) And file requests and file
|
||
attaches? Don't even think about it! Enough to make a novice
|
||
weep.
|
||
|
||
Users are accorded no place in the scheme of things. There's
|
||
not a user-accessible Netinfo Echomail; there's not an IFNA body;
|
||
not a drop of mention in POLICY3.DOC (except that it's none of
|
||
the FidoNet's business what the sysops do locally, which is not
|
||
relevant here), nothing. There's no room for the rest of us. We
|
||
don't even belong to Fidonet -- we're just the users!
|
||
|
||
I really don't know what to do about it, since in a material
|
||
sense the network really *does* belong to the sysops. And even
|
||
in other senses, too: many of the participants in the echomails
|
||
are sysops, of course (the Old Frog comes to mind). But not all
|
||
are. I'm not (yet), for one, although my participation is not
|
||
all that important (except to me). I don't think any of the
|
||
professional sf writers on SF and SFFAN conferences are sysops.
|
||
Most of the professional programmers in ECPROG and the other
|
||
programming echomails are not sysops. There's a lot of users out
|
||
there! Don't lock us out!
|
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|
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(Another column on a similar subject follows next week.)
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NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
|
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24 Aug 1989
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Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
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