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Volume 4, Number 7 16 February 1987
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Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson
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Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings
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FidoNews is the official newsletter of the International FidoNet
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Association, and is published weekly by SEAdog Leader, node 1/1.
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You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1/1.
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Copyright (C) 1987, by the International FidoNet Association.
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All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted
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for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances,
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please contact IFNA.
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL
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FidoNews versus EchoMail
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2. ARTICLES
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EchoMail Censorship
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IFNA Board of Director Elections
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Fido on the air
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My Reply to Mark Welch, Re: Shareware Expenses
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3. FOR SALE
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Magazine on Disk for IBM PC and Compatibles
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4. NOTICES
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The Interrupt Stack
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Fidonews Page 2 16 Feb 1987
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EDITORIAL
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FidoNews versus EchoMail
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An excerpt from a recently overheard conversation:
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"I have an idea for a FidoNews article."
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"Don't send it to FidoNews, put it in EchoMail! Everyone
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will get it faster that way."
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This brings up an interesting question. Is this true? Well,
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partly.
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It's true that EchoMail is usually faster. Not always by any
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means, but usually. But does everyone read EchoMail? Is there
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any one given EchoMail conference that is more widely read than
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FidoNews? I think not.
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One of the EchoMail backbone hubs recently told me the results of
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some studies he's done. He analyzed the "seen-by" lists of all
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of the message traffic on the "big four" conferences (SYSOP,
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IFNA, TECH, and ECPROG), plus several other popular conferences
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he carries, and he's found that only about a hundred nodes show
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up in all conferences combined. Even if twice as many nodes see
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those conferences than ever show up at his node, that's still
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much less than a quarter of all sysops.
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I might be biased, but I think that FidoNews is still an
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important channel of communication between sysops, and I think
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those numbers back me up. On a more subjective level, I feel
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that FidoNews articles tend to be more considered, more thought
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out, while EchoMail tends more to reflexive, off-the-cuff
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reactions. This in turn makes FidoNews more valuable for
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reference and for historical reasons. Not too many people keep
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histories of EchoMail conferences, but quite a few people keep
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full back-issue sets of FidoNews.
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So why am I banging your ear(eye) about this? It's become a
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matter of some concern to me lately. As you may have noticed,
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the last couple of issues of FidoNews have been a bit shorter
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than usual. This is because submissions have been dropping off.
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It's been going on longer than you may have realized. I've had a
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supply of "filler" on hand to take care of the occasional slow
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issue, but recently I've had to dip into it more and more, and
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recently I ran out. I can probably dig up some more, but what
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I'd really rather have is something from YOU!
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Fidonews Page 3 16 Feb 1987
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ARTICLES
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Karl Andrews, 138/241
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An Essay Supporting Censorship of EchoMail Conferences.
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NetMail has some similarities with the service provided by the
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Post Office, and like that Mail, should NOT be subject to
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censorship, short of the standard requirement that it not be
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illegal. EchoMail, on the other hand, can be thought of as a
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group of magazines that we subscribe to, because we are
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interested in the known subject matter and/or editorial policy.
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Just as you, as a subscriber to Byte, would be upset to find the
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current issue full of articles about the mating habits of the
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Bolivian Field Cricket, so too are the readers of a given
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conference perturbed to find it full of irrelevant material.
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Magazines can avoid the inclusion of inappropriate articles and
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the printing of offensive correspondence by the exercise of
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editorial control at the point of origin. Because of the
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distributed origin of EchoMail, no single person can control the
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content of any given conference; therefore the only way to insure
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that a given conference sticks to its stated subject matter is
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for each of us to control its input.
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If an author who submitted an article on microprocessor
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architecture to Better Homes and Gardens were to complain about
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its rejection, who of us would be upset? Wouldn't we say that
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the author should have known better and should have addressed the
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article to the appropriate audience? Would we condemn the
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magazine for refusing to accept the article, or in the unlikely
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event of the article being published, be surprised when the
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subscribers complained? A large proportion of us are subscribers
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to various EchoMail conferences, in that it costs us real money
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for the service. Should we have any less rights than the
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subscribers to a printed magazine?
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Unfortunately, we have no single editor or publisher to complain
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to. We as sysops are simultaneously subscribers, publishers and
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editors, and in effect we comprise a distributed editorial board.
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We subscribe to a given conference because we are interested in
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the subject matter, and have a right to expect that the
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preponderance of material in that conference pertain to the
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stated subject. The only way this state of affairs may be
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attained is for each of us to control the input to the various
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areas, and not allow the introduction of extraneous material.
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The position of Moderator is titular; there is no effective way
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for that person to exercise any sort of control over the rest of
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the participants in a conference. Some people (I can predict who
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many of them will be) will flame about this being unethical,
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immoral, and illegal, but we are not talking about censoring
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NetMail, only EchoMail.
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Fidonews Page 4 16 Feb 1987
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We have the right and obligation to restrict the introduction of
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non-pertinent material (even a rose in the midst of a bed of
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marigolds is a weed) into our Echo conferences to prevent their
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degeneration into general chatter areas. If we don't exercise
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this right, eventually the sysops who pay for the distribution
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will drop out of the conference, and then nobody will get it,
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including those who would complain about the censorship, as well
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as those who corrupt the conferences with irrelevancies and
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inanities.
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I can justify the expense of using my work machine, my company
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phone, and my time to keep this board running only if the results
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remain beneficial. As long as I can reasonably say this exercise
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in frustration contributes to my professional expertise, I have
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the support of my manager, but when the conferences become little
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more than chit-chat, I won't be here anymore, and my nine
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downstream nodes will be the losers.
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May I remind those of you on List 23 (knee-jerk flamers) that
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IFNA does NOT have anything to do with EchoMail, so don't even
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bother beating that horse. We are not talking about NetMail,
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only EchoMail.
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Fidonews Page 5 16 Feb 1987
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Bob Morris
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Opus 141/300
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IFNA Board of Directors Elections
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Having been appointed, based on my response to the question about
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working for IFNA, by Ken Kaplan to headup the Nominations and
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Elections Committee. I have been joined by Phil Ardussi and we
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are in the process of composing the letters which will be going
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out to all IFNA Members requesting self-nomination to the
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position of Director within IFNA.
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As established within the By-Laws which outlines the procedure
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Directors will be asked to send in their Declaration of Intention
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to run, along with the support of ten (10) IFNA Sysops to the
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address which will be attached to the Ballot. Furthur details
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will be forthcomming.
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This procedure will be a lengthy process and with that in mind, I
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have recommended to the existing Board of Directors (Ken Kaplan,
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Ben Baker and Thom Henderson) that they appoint a person from
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each voting Division, to act as a Director until the ballots are
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printed in FidoNews during the week of April 13th. This
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recommendation was made based upon the fact that we would need to
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hold two elections this year, the first for a period of six (6)
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months and the second for the normal full-term assignments.
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Rather than attempting to do this thing twice and tick everyone
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off, I have gained the approval of the BoD for the recommendation
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to take effect immediately.
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Now before everyone starts sending FLAME Mail to 141/300, let me
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tell you that this procedure effects approximately 200 people
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throught the known FIDO/OPUS/SEADog Community and does not effect
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any other Sysop in any manner.
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I will be asking the backbone Echomail Hubs to initiate an area
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called "NOM", which will be utilized by those affected to send in
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their nominations to Phil Ardussi and myself. This will be a
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sysop only area, therefore, the existing BoD will see these
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ballots and the supporting documentation, and those who would
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also like to see these things will be able to do so as well.
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If anyone has comments concerning this matter, they may contact
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me via FidoMail at 141/300 or 141/333.
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Bob Morris, Chairman
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Nominations and Elections Committee
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Fidonews Page 6 16 Feb 1987
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Andy Bakkers, 500/100
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FIDO ON THE AIR
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During the Hobby Computer Fair last november in Utrecht The
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Netherlands, Fido was connected to a radio amateur
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receiver/transmitter via a packet radio modem called TNC-1. In
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the Fido code all AT type instructions were deleted and replaced
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with TNC-1 equivalents. A swith in Fido to allow the use of a
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packet radio modem TNC-1 would be better. The following PR TNC-1
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settings were required:
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ABAUD 300 This is because the Fido handshake with the PR
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modem did not work. Packet Radio transmissions
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were at 1200 Baud so the 300 Baud between the
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Fido computer and the TNC-1 did eleminate the
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need for handshaking.
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Recommendations: Implement the handshake in
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Fido!
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CANLINE $00
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CANPAC $00
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CPACKTIME ON
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CR OFF
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DELETE OFF
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ECHO OFF
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FLOW OFF
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MALL OFF
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MONITOR OFF
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MTO NONE
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MYVADR $00
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PACTIME AFTER 3
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PASS $00
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REDISPLAY $00
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RETRY 3 :TO PRVENT NEEDLESS RETRIES
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SENPAC $0A
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XFLOW OFF
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All other parameters default value.
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The only other problem encountered was the inability of Fido to
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turn the Fido echo OFF. This would avoid redundant echoing via
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the air, because the echoing was already done between the PR
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modems en the computers.
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In order to have more efficient transmission of the menus, I
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suggest the possibility to limit the Menus to 128 characters (one
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maximum packet length) end use a special end of menu character so
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that this character may be used as a SENPAC character in the TNC-
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1 allowing efficient menu transmission within one packet.
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The result was a very workable setup. With the above mentioned
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changes the Fido will be a perfect match to amateur radio.
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Fidonews Page 7 16 Feb 1987
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(The flow control mentioned by Andy is essentially the CTS
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handshake. As I understand it OPUS and Fido generic use special
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serial drivers. The OPUS!Comm driver from Bob Hartman is capable
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of CTR handshake if initialized this way. A switch in OPUS's
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control file ? HEY WYNN are you listening ? -henk wevers)
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Fidonews Page 8 16 Feb 1987
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Jeff Sheese
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Sysop, THUD BBS (Opus), 110/10
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Data: 513-890-0422
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Usenet: ihnp4!itivax!m-net!jeffery
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M-Net: 313-994-6333
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My Reply to Mark Welch, Re: Shareware Expenses
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This editorial is in response to the article written by Mark
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Welch published in the Fido Newsletter Volume 4, Number 2, dated
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12 January 1987.
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Now personally I agree with the sharware concept, provided that
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it does in fact work. But let me start out explaining my
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position in this matter before making any comments directly
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concerning the reference made on the previous articles published
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concerning shareware.
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I've been involved in telecommunications both as a hobby and as a
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vocation since 1981. In my experience I've seen a lot of both
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good and bad bulletin boards. I've also seen my share of both
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good and bad public domain software distributed on these boards.
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Telecommunications originally peaked my interest due to the user
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interaction achieved as well as the distribution and sharing of
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public domain software. But as a whole I probably saw 10 bad
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programs for every one good program. This in no way reflected
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the expertise of the author, because good programs result in hard
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work and dedication to the final purpose, not to mention a lot of
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time.
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But as the industry progressed so did the users. As more
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advances were made in the computer industry the caliber and
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expertise of the average user increased as well. Better programs
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were resulting from not only upgrades of older versions of
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software, but also the combination of new ideas from other
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available software that were shared. Users of bulletin boards
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were able to share ideas and techniques, as well as offer a
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helping hand to the newer members of this fascinating hobby.
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Never to my knowledge did anyone ask for anything in return for a
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few good words or helpful tips to put someone else on the right
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track to using their computer more productively.
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Then came the concept of shareware and freeware. The authors
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asked that if their software were used on a consistant basis that
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it be registered by sending the author a certain amount of money
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to help cover development costs. This is a fine method for
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distributing good software, since many programs using this
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concept are much better and more professional than most
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proprietary software sold over the counter. Also donations such
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as this help to 'push' the authors into upgrading and expanding
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current software. So it seems only fair that the author of a
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well written program should expect remuneration for his/her time
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and expense.
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But due to human nature, there will always be a few people that
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Fidonews Page 9 16 Feb 1987
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download shareware and use it consistantly without registration.
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I can't name names since my mother always told me that whenever
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you point your finger at someone else you always have the other
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three pointing right back at you. This leads me to believe that
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shareware authors are not rightfully compensated for their
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trouble. I know if I released software using the shareware
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concept that I would probably not receive enough contributions to
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reimburse me for my expenses. I'd be lucky to come close to
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breaking even. Therefore, once the authors of shareware products
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allow the users to help them debug their products, they should
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consider taking them out of shareware distribution and placing
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the polished versions on the open market. But all of this is one
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sided and purely my own speculation.
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But now, to make my point. As I read Mr. Welch's financial
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report concerning his gains and losses on the development and
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distribution of GAGS (Generic Adventure Game System) I was first
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led to believe that he had incurred great loss. But thanks to
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the figures that he provided in his article it comes to my
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attention that he really made MORE money from his software than
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he actually reported. Again these are strictly my own opinions,
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and I'd like to share them with everyone that read his article in
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Fido Newsletter #402. Following are the figures that he provided
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breaking down all expenses, gains, and losses in the development
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and distribution of GAGS:
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Table 1: GAGS Expenses to Date: December 31, 1986
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Books $69.12 (reference works, etc.)
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Cost of goods sold 470.30 (disks, etc.)
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Computer equip. 2,397.40 (computer, printers, etc.)
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Development sw 284.29 (compilers, toolkits, etc.)
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Misc. 204.51 (magazines, memberships)
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Phone 834.03 (includes BBS)
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Postage 296.98 (includes ALL postage!)
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Software 440.20 (VP-Planner, PC-Write, etc.)
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Supplies 396.70 (paper, ribbons, envelopes)
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Total: $5,393.53
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1985 total: $3,364.11
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1986 total: 2,029.42
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Table 2: Sales Total 1986
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Disks $ 857.60 $ 721.05 (at about $10 each)
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Registrations 949.44 827.12 (at about $15 each)
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Source code 868.90 745.54 (at about $25 each)
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Other 266.13 266.13 (upgrades, resold goods)
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Total $2,942.07 $2,559.84
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Table 3: Profit/Loss Total 1986 only
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GAGS Sales $2,942.07 $2,559.84
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GAGS Expenses (5,393.53) (2,029.42)
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Fidonews Page 10 16 Feb 1987
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Net GAGS Profit (Loss): (2,833.69) $530.42
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Let me stress again that these are only my opinions. First of
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all I'd like to examine table 1 a bit closer. Here are my
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opinions line by line.
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* Books $69.12 (reference works, etc.) *
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Provided that Mr. Welch purchased these references ONLY for the
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expressed purpose of developing the one software package, then
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these expenses are viable. However, I'd like to see a more
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complete list of these references. My question is, were these
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references placed back on the shelf until the next release of
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GAGS, or were they ALSO used for other purposes not related to
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GAGS. In my opinion this is not a viable expense for GAGS based
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on the fact that these references were purchased for the purpose
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of self education. Therefore the author received benifit from
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these references not only in the development of GAGS, but also in
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the development and use of other software and hardware not
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associated with GAGS. Now providing that these references were
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originally purchased for the development of GAGS, I'll give him
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half of this figure on my own expense sheet to reflect:
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** Books $34.56 (reference works, etc.)
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* Cost of goods sold 470.30 (disks, etc.)
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Please explain 'etc.'? A wild guess will tell me that
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documentation, source code, work disks for compilers and toolkits
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number really no more than 30. That would be enough diskettes to
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back up a 20 meg hard disk about 3/4 full. Considering that 90
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disks were sold (as in Table 2) this would number to 120. Twelve
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boxes of the best floppies at about $18 apiece would be about
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$216. Providing for extra mailers, lables, and 'etc.' and I
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would guess:
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** Cost of goods sold 300.00 (disks, etc.)
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* Computer equip. 2,397.40 (computer, printers, etc.)
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How did this one slip by? Does he use this for personal work
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such as word processing, database, spreadsheets? Is this machine
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set aside for the expressed purpose of GAGS development or is it
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used only for occasional debugging and updates of GAGS? I would
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guess that this system is used for GAGS on an occasional basis,
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and does not qualify as an expense for GAGS. Now considering the
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wear and tear in the development process, as well as the amount
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of utilities expended (not to mention coffee) I would agree to:
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** Computer equip. 400.00 (computer, printers, etc.)
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* Development sw 284.29 (compilers, toolkits, etc.)
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Again, this rates with the reference works. Based on the above
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paragraph regarding my opinion on reference works, I'll give him
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half.
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** Development sw 142.15 (compilers, toolkits, etc.)
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* Misc. 204.51 (magazines, memberships)
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Rates with reference works as above. So to be fair, I'll give
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him half. This also assumes that he uses this as an income tax
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deduction.
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** Misc. 102.26 (magazines, memberships)
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Fidonews Page 11 16 Feb 1987
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* Phone 834.03 (includes BBS)
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Does his BBS only stock GAGS and no other files available for
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download? Does his message base talk about nothing but GAGS?
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Assuming he had lot of Fidomail both sent and received concerning
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GAGS, I can only agree to:
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** Phone 200.00 (includes BBS)
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* Postage 296.98 (includes ALL postage!)
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I agree, because this would not only show the expense incurred in
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sending the actual disks, but also the time and trouble of making
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sure that timely updates and announcements would arrive at the
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distribution sources. Also including technical support and bug
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reports, I think he might have short changed himself in this one.
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In all fairness I give him:
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** Postage 400.00 (includes ALL postage AND time!)
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* Software 440.20 (VP-Planner, PC-Write, etc.)
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Reference works again, unless these packages are used exclusively
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for the updating and reporting of GAGS and associated expenses.
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I'll give him half.
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** Software 220.10 (VP-Planner, PC-Write, etc.)
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* Supplies 396.70 (paper, ribbons, envelopes)
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This I will agree with since he has kept accurate records
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reflecting other expenses. Is this the 'etc.'?
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** Supplies 396.70 (paper, ribbons, envelopes)
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Therefore I figure total expenses to be:
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** Books $34.56 (reference works, etc.)
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** Cost of goods sold 300.00 (disks, etc.)
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** Computer equip. 400.00 (computer, printers, etc.)
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** Development sw 142.15 (compilers, toolkits, etc.)
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** Misc. 102.26 (magazines, memberships)
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** Phone 200.00 (includes BBS)
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** Postage 400.00 (includes ALL postage AND time!)
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** Software 220.10 (VP-Planner, PC-Write, etc.)
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** Supplies 396.70 (paper, ribbons, envelopes)
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---------
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Total: $2195.77
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So, for Table 3, I compute:
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** GAGS Sales (Table 2 above) $2942.07
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** GAGS Expenses (My figures) $2195.77
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Total Profit (Loss) $746.30
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I'm not questioning Mr. Welch's figures, but how he arrives at
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these figures. I'm not a tax lawyer and do not profess to be.
|
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But it seems to me that after all these expenses he should
|
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consider himself lucky to break even. My question is, did he
|
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learn how to use a computer for personal benefit of the hobby, or
|
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to make money?
|
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|
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I can only answer that question for myself. I never really
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planned on making money on distributing shareware software when I
|
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purchased my computer. I've taught electronics as well as
|
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computer programming, interfacing, and design for 6 years. I
|
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consider myself very lucky to enjoy computers, electronics, and
|
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communications as both a hobby and a vocation. What has happened
|
||
to the hobbiests of today? Do they expect to distribute a few
|
||
programs and get rich?
|
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|
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In 1981, I wrote a program called EM.COM for CP/M version 1.4 in
|
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8080 assembly language. It is an 8080 mnemonic emulator. The
|
||
purpose of this program was to allow a person to enter a machine
|
||
language instruction directly into the computer and watch how it
|
||
affects both the registers and the flags. Sort of an extension
|
||
of DDT. With it, you had a machine language 'immediate' mode
|
||
similar to BASIC. After you enter the command as a mnemonic, you
|
||
see immediately how the registers and flags are affected. I
|
||
wrote the program originally to learn both the CP/M operating
|
||
system and 8080 assembly language. It took me about 4 months to
|
||
complete, and was still ridden with bugs. After it was working
|
||
to the point that it was useable, I uploaded it to to remote CP/M
|
||
board here in Dayton. That was in 1981. I forgot about it after
|
||
that. When I moved to Detroit in the summer of 1984, I was
|
||
suprised beyond belief to see the SAME program on Royal Oak
|
||
RCP/M. I downloaded it, worked out a few bugs, and uploaded it
|
||
again under the name of EM200.LBR. After making even more
|
||
extensive bug fixes and upgrades, I uploaded EM220.LBR to the
|
||
same board in 1985. Just this past summer (1986) I saw it on an
|
||
RCP/M board in California. The latest version, EM300.ARC, is
|
||
available on my board. I upgraded and fixed it on an IBM XT
|
||
clone using a V20 processor and V20-80.ARC, and now has even more
|
||
extensive documentation, source code, and RESOURCE data files.
|
||
|
||
I'm not comparing EM300 with GAGS. My point is this: I have
|
||
gotten more enjoyment and experience in writing and repairing the
|
||
program and documentation than any amount of money could have
|
||
given me. I feel very honored to recieve both complaints and
|
||
laudations concerning this program. It gives me a warm feeling
|
||
inside whenever I can do anything to help another learn about
|
||
computers. As a part of my own copyright notice, I even allow
|
||
both public and private institutions to use EM300 provided they
|
||
make a copy of the original documentation available to their
|
||
students.
|
||
|
||
Am I a dying breed? Am I a dinosaur that is quickly becoming
|
||
extinct? Time will tell...
|
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|
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|
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|
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=================================================================
|
||
FOR SALE
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
MAGAZINE ON DISK FOR IBM PC AND COMPATIBLES
|
||
|
||
BIG BLUE DISK, the magazine on disk for the IBM PC and
|
||
compatibles, is currently available at Waldenbooks stores and
|
||
many other retail locations, as well as by mail subscription.
|
||
It is contained entirely on a floppy disk. Each issue contains
|
||
programs, articles, feedback from subscribers, program reviews
|
||
and demos, and more.
|
||
|
||
For example, issue 5, which should be on the stands by the time
|
||
you read this, contains 2 disks full of features, including:
|
||
|
||
- Disk Indexer: Index your hard disk or floppy disk collection.
|
||
This handy program can alphabetize thousands of files.
|
||
|
||
- SuperDots: A challenging version of a traditional strategy
|
||
game.
|
||
|
||
- Periodic Table: A tutorial for beginning chemistry students.
|
||
|
||
- * BLUE PLATE SPECIAL * Power Reading: An interactive demo
|
||
showing how you can increase your reading speed.
|
||
|
||
- The CP Command: An enhanced file copy command.
|
||
|
||
- Monsters and Microchips: An in-depth interview with Richard
|
||
Garriott, the author of Ultima.
|
||
|
||
In addition, there are other programs, articles, and regular
|
||
features, including feedback from our readers.
|
||
|
||
You can order this issue by direct mail by sending $9.95 (check,
|
||
money order, or Visa/Mastercard/American Express accepted) to:
|
||
BIG BLUE DISK, DEPT F2, PO BOX 30008, SHREVEPORT, LA 71130-0008.
|
||
|
||
Mail subscriptions are also available: One year (12 monthly
|
||
issues) costs only $69.95. (A 41% savings over newsstand
|
||
price.) A six-month subscription is available for $39.95.
|
||
|
||
Lots of interesting stuff is coming up; issue 6 contains our
|
||
April Spool Foof... er, I mean April Fool Spoof, taking a peek
|
||
(and a poke) at PC-STRIFE, the ONLY magazine on disk. Subscribe
|
||
now and don't miss anything!
|
||
|
||
BIG BLUE DISK requires an IBM PC or compatible, with at least
|
||
256K and MS-DOS 2.0 or later. Color graphics is recommended.
|
||
|
||
Send questions/comments to Daniel Tobias on FIDO 380/2.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
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|
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|
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|
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NOTICES
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|
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|
||
The Interrupt Stack
|
||
|
||
|
||
21 Feb 1987
|
||
The Next Occasional MetroNet Sysop Meeting, to be held at the
|
||
SEA office in Clifton NJ. Spouses and POSSLQs welcome.
|
||
Contact Irene Henderson at 107/9 for details and directions.
|
||
|
||
17 May 1987
|
||
Metro-Fire Fido's Second Birthday BlowOut and Floppy Disk
|
||
Throwing Tournament! All Fido Sysops and Families Invited!
|
||
Contact Christopher Baker at 135/14 for more information.
|
||
|
||
24 Aug 1989
|
||
Voyager 2 passes Neptune.
|
||
|
||
|
||
If you have something which you would like to see on this
|
||
calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1/1.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
Metatek Fido (107/316) is the home of the Echomail Scribe.
|
||
I created the original Echomail Conference List, and I
|
||
published it around Jan 15th (1987). I planned on doing
|
||
monthly updates but the second issue will be delayed.
|
||
The list is available on my system 1-201-286-2567. I'm
|
||
running SEAdog so you can file request it, otherwise
|
||
first time callers can download it. If you have any
|
||
updates or corrections please let me know. Thank you
|
||
very much, your Humble Echomail Scribe, Thomas Kenny.
|
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|
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|
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|
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the Board of Directors. An IFNA Echomail Conference has been
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