textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1989/891101.ch

CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
11/01/89 00:07:32

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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 209988; next msg =42703;  360 active msgs.
Prev. call 10/29/89 @ 01:32, next msg was 42690
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
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?xxxxx
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.   6 
KILLED. 130 
SUMMARY.  24 
11/01/89,00:07:36,209988,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42690X 10/29/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => PHIL JERN/ALL: "HARD DISK PS/2-80"
42691 10/29/89 MIKE LADA => BRENT JONES: "R/PRODIGY"
type log;or;*;short

10/29/89,01:34:09,209899,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
10/29/89,00:40:31,209900,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#42690,6
10/29/89,04:01:05,209901,2,CALVIN CURTINDOLPH,,4
10/29/89,06:45:45,209902,2,ALEX ZELL,,
10/29/89,07:10:27,209903,2,BILL PRECHT,,23
10/29/89,08:55:08,209904,3,LARRY RE',CHICAGO/IL,10
10/29/89,09:20:08,209905,3,LARRY RE',,5
10/29/89,09:45:57,209906,2,MIKE LADA,,
E#42691,11
10/29/89,09:59:55,209907,2,ALEX ZELL,,
10/29/89,10:31:01,209908,2,GARY WOLF,CHICAGO/IL.,1
10/29/89,11:56:31,209909,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,90
10/29/89,13:15:20,209910,2,MIKE SANDMAN,,14
10/29/89,14:36:04,209911,1,JOSEPH SKOM,,3
10/29/89,18:03:11,209912,2,PHIL JERN,,1
10/29/89,18:13:11,209913,1,DAVID JOHNSON,,14
10/29/89,18:36:58,209914,1,PETER BRENTON,,
E#42692,
E#42693,42
10/29/89,19:14:36,209915,1,KEVIN KEYSER,,4
10/29/89,19:23:20,209916,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,
E#42694,
E#42695,3
10/29/89,19:53:35,209917,2,SCOTT ALBREHCT,CHICAGO/IL,4
10/29/89,20:20:53,209918,1,STEVE RYAN,,
10/29/89,20:52:53,209919,1,BOB BRADLEY,park ridge,20
10/29/89,21:17:00,209920,1,DMITRI ELLINGSON,,2
10/29/89,21:53:13,209921,2,FRANK SPIVEY II,,1
10/29/89,21:59:24,209922,1,NICHOLAS PONCZKO,ARLINGTON HIGHTS/ IL,
>Help: BBS LISTING,
>Help: OPER,
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]I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A LATEST LIST OF BBS SYSTEMS
NICHOLAS PONCZKO,
10/29/89,22:22:50,209923,2,JIM POLOUS,,
E#42696,5
10/29/89,22:55:33,209924,2,BILL MATTSON,,4
10/29/89,23:01:45,209925,2,CLIFF SHARP,,8
10/29/89,23:56:26,209926,2,ALEX ZELL,,
10/30/89,00:30:42,209927,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,13
10/30/89,01:04:08,209928,2,PAUL DOWNING,f*BARLETT,16
10/30/89,02:34:36,209929,2,JERRY OLSEN,,
E#42697,
E#42698,11
10/30/89,05:45:42,209930,2,PETE JONES,,1
10/30/89,08:46:31,209931,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,4
10/30/89,09:00:29,209932,2,ED FOSTER,,2
10/30/89,11:13:08,209933,2,BILL WOLFF,,2
10/30/89,11:51:15,209934,2,LARRY HITZ,,2
10/30/89,12:45:25,209935,1,KHALIL HAZZIEZ,,3
10/30/89,13:01:54,209936,2,SCOTT SWANSON,Phoenixvil/ PA,2
10/30/89,13:04:42,209937,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,2
10/30/89,15:41:02,209938,1,HERTHA PROESSNER,,
]CHAT: WHY,27
10/30/89,16:12:15,209939,1,PATRICK TWOMEY,CHICAGO,
>Help: SCRIBE,5
10/30/89,16:24:04,209940,1,Q Q,Q,
10/30/89,17:09:16,209941,1,LANE LARRISON,,3
10/30/89,17:19:28,209942,1,KEN STOX,,2
10/30/89,17:27:50,209943,2,RICHARD HINTON,,1
10/30/89,17:52:24,209944,2,BILL WOLFF,,
E#42699,2
10/30/89,18:09:59,209945,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,2
10/30/89,18:40:29,209946,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,
E#42700,25
10/30/89,19:31:54,209947,2,JOHN ZWIERZYNA,,2
10/30/89,20:15:34,209948,2,BILL WOLFF,,
E#42701,12
10/30/89,20:43:24,209949,2,STEVE COHEN,,1
10/30/89,21:08:06,209950,1,BILL WOLFF,,1
10/30/89,21:09:51,209951,2,GARY ELFRING,,1
10/30/89,21:41:46,209952,1,JOSEPH SKOM,,3
10/30/89,22:24:55,209953,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,3
10/30/89,22:39:48,209954,2,JIM ANDERSON,,3
]JIM ANDERSON,
10/31/89,00:11:32,209955,2,MARTY SILVERMAN,,2
10/31/89,01:20:38,209956,2,MARTY SILVERMAN,,2
10/31/89,02:30:42,209957,1,BILL HARMON,olney/md.,13
10/31/89,05:10:15,209958,2,ALEX ZELL,,
10/31/89,06:20:26,209959,1,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,,10
10/31/89,07:01:14,209960,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,7
10/31/89,07:17:51,209961,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,18
10/31/89,09:26:31,209962,2,BILL WOLFF,,1
10/31/89,09:41:59,209963,2,LARS NORBERGH,Stockholm/sweden,5
10/31/89,10:25:14,209964,2,KARL PLATH,Chicago/ IL,1
10/31/89,10:33:43,209965,1,SUSMIT PATEL,Germantown/ MD,
]CHAT: I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT "XMODEM" ON THE MAINFRAME?,9
]CAN I TALK TO SOME ONE LIVE ABOUT "XMDODEM" FOR THE IBM MAINFRAME?
SUSMIT PATEL,
10/31/89,10:40:31,209966,1,SUSMIT PATEL,,
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]This is Susmit Patel from Computers & Communications, Inc. in
Gaithersburg, MD (301-840-5490). I needed to talk to Ward about
getting the "XMODEM" software for the IBM 3081K mainframe running
MVS/XA. We are a consulting firm who specializes in writing script
files for automatic upload/download of files from and to PC for
different OS environments. Please call me at the above number. I
will really appreciate it.
Thank You. - Susmit Patel
SUSMIT PATEL,
10/31/89,10:52:16,209967,1,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,LINCOLNWOOD,
>Help: SETTINGS,
>Help: BAUD,5
10/31/89,11:15:26,209968,1,GARY MCCOY,,6
10/31/89,12:09:19,209969,2,JACK HOMA,,3
10/31/89,12:23:11,209970,2,PHIL JERN,,1
10/31/89,13:50:12,209971,2,MIKE DEER,,
10/31/89,14:06:06,209972,3,JOHN STANDISH,,
10/31/89,14:14:13,209973,2,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,11
10/31/89,15:57:14,209974,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,,3
10/31/89,16:17:42,209975,1,BILL WOLFF,,3
10/31/89,16:56:48,209976,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
10/31/89,17:23:10,209977,1,BOB KOBETSKY,,1
10/31/89,19:04:01,209978,2,BOB YOUNG,chicago Il,
10/31/89,19:07:35,209979,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2
10/31/89,19:17:33,209980,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,2
10/31/89,19:20:14,209981,1,JOSEPH SKOM,,0
10/31/89,19:58:29,209982,1,KEVIN KEYSER,,1
10/31/89,20:18:43,209983,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,
E#42702,9
10/31/89,20:56:13,209984,1,MICHAEL BLAKE,,1
10/31/89,22:00:06,209985,2,JIM ANDERSON,,1
10/31/89,23:13:12,209986,2,PAUL DOWNING,,10
10/31/89,23:46:03,209987,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,34
11/01/89,00:07:36,209988,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42690X 10/29/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => PHIL JERN/ALL: "HARD DISK PS/2-80"
42691 10/29/89 MIKE LADA => BRENT JONES: "R/PRODIGY"
42692 10/29/89 PETER BRENTON => ALL: "APPLE IIC/FOR SALE"
42693 10/29/89 PETER BRENTON => ALL: "APPLE IIC AGAIN"
42694 10/29/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/HARD DISK PS/2-80"
42695 10/29/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "HAMFEST"
42696 10/29/89 JIM POLOUS => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "HARD DISKS"
42697 10/30/89 JERRY OLSEN => JOSEPH SKOM: "R/NEED ADVICE ON 976 EQUIPMENT"
42698 10/30/89 JERRY OLSEN => ALL: "AZTEC C"
42699 10/30/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "HAYES COMMANDS?"
42700 10/30/89 MARTY DIPPEL => BILL WOLFF: "R/HAYES COMMANDS?"
42701 10/30/89 BILL WOLFF => MARTY DIPPEL: "R/HAYES COMMANDS?"
42702 10/31/89 MARTY DIPPEL => BILL WOLFF: "R/HAYES COMMANDS?"

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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
No msg 42690

Msg 42691 is 03 line(s) on 10/29/89 from MIKE LADA
to BRENT JONES re: R/PRODIGY

Brent,
Thanks for the info on PC Outline, I'll look for it and let you know.
 - - Mike - -

Msg 42692 is 14 line(s) on 10/29/89 from PETER BRENTON
to ALL re: APPLE IIC/FOR SALE

Apple IIc in exc. cond. for sale includes;
 internal and external floppy(5.25") drives
 1200 Baud Modem (with Commworks-adequate software)
 Green screen monitor
 Thermal/dot matrix printer
 CH products joystick
 tremendous amount of software (Appleworks, CP/M, Pascal, "Strike
 Fleet", many games.)
*Excellent for word processing/ spreadsheet/database appl.*
 (I'm upgrading to IBM PC/AT)
 $800.00obo will accept a trade for 24-pin IBM compat printer
 for big discount, will also take other IBM perifs or accessories.
?
 ask for Pete

Msg 42693 is 02 line(s) on 10/29/89 from PETER BRENTON
to ALL re: APPLE IIC AGAIN

Phone number for apple IIc for sale is 493-5946 (Area312)
or leacve a message here.

Msg 42694 is 02 line(s) on 10/29/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/HARD DISK PS/2-80

 If you can get a ST4096 cheaper than $500 let ME know. I am looking for
another 80 meg or a 40 meg.

Msg 42695 is 03 line(s) on 10/29/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL
to ALL re: HAMFEST

 If you didn't go to the Hamfest in Lake county today you didn't
miss anything. My first Hamfest and hardly any computer equip
except for some really shoddy stuff for do-it-yourselfers.

Msg 42696 is 04 line(s) on 10/29/89 from JIM POLOUS
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: HARD DISKS

Ward,
 Hard Disks International usually has pretty good pricing on
Miniscribe and Seagate hard disks. They carry from 20 megs up to 4 gigaby
gigabytes. There phone number is 1-800-234-DISK. I hope this helps

Msg 42697 is 04 line(s) on 10/30/89 from JERRY OLSEN
to JOSEPH SKOM re: R/NEED ADVICE ON 976 EQUIPMENT

My recollection is that WATSON, a commercial program, would meet most or
all of your needs. I believe it's advertised for just under $200. Check
any recent issue of PC World for price and detailed product description.
Good luck.

Msg 42698 is 11 line(s) on 10/30/89 from JERRY OLSEN
to ALL re: AZTEC C

A program has recently been released for CP/M (remember it?!) which
performs various functions on DOS .LZH archives. The author distributed
source and washed his hands of it before one major feature (recognition
of CP/M "user areas") was added. I've rewritten it to add this feature,
but need someone kind enough to compile it with AZTEC C. This change
would make the program a real asset to BBSes still running under various
versions of CP/M (many still are). I can't offer to rewrite the balance
of the code to run under my CP/M C compiler, so if you can offer to do
the recompilation, pls either leave a msg here, on the BBS I run
(The Advocate/NOWAR, 312.939.4411, 24 hrs., 8/n/1, central Chicago), or
call me voice (312.939.3300, workdays). Thanx.

Msg 42699 is 10 line(s) on 10/30/89 from BILL WOLFF
to ALL re: HAYES COMMANDS?

Can anybody help me with the Hayes modems? I bought a 1200 and a 2400 baud
without manuals. The 1200 commands I think I know what they are. But I only
figured out half the dip switches are for, help! Also how do you adjust the
sound on the speaker?

Also the 2400 baud Hayes doesn't use dip switches. I also understand it can
store 4 phone numbers. But I don't know how? Plus the "&" commands report
okay on the following: B,C,D,F,G,J,L,M,P,R,S,T,W,Y, and Z. But what do they
mean? The standard AT commands I know are A,C,D,E,F,H,I,O,P,Q,R,S,T,V, and
Z. Are there any others? Like B and L?

Msg 42700 is 10 line(s) on 10/30/89 from MARTY DIPPEL
to BILL WOLFF re: R/HAYES COMMANDS?

My Practical Peripherals 2400 baud modem claims to be Hayes-compatible;
Numbers can be stored by AT&Zn=number where 0 <= n <= 3. To dial
numbers so stored, ATDS=n. To alter the speaker, use the L command:
ATL0 (or ATL or ATL1) sets lowest volume. ATL2 and ATL3 set higher levels
although it doesn't make much difference on mine. ATM0 disables speaker
completely, ATM1 disables only when receiving carrier from a remote
station, ATM2 turns the speaker on at all times, and ATM3 disables while
dialing as well as while receiving remote carrier. ATB0 sets the modem to
CCITT mode while in 1200 baud; ATB1 sets Bell 212A while in 1200 baud
(default). The 'B' command selects 1200 baud operation in all cases.

Msg 42701 is 09 line(s) on 10/30/89 from BILL WOLFF
to MARTY DIPPEL re: R/HAYES COMMANDS?

Thanks a lot! I have two other 1200 baud modems BSR and MIGENT which
are suppose to be HAYES compatible. So I have been trying to piece
together the whole command set.

What doesn't help is that the BSR adds an "*" set too. And the MIGENT
doesn't have a speaker and adds a battery warning command set.

Your input really helped. But I still need to know what the dips are
for on the 1200 baud Hayes and the "&" command set. Thanks! <BW>

Msg 42702 is 03 line(s) on 10/31/89 from MARTY DIPPEL
to BILL WOLFF re: R/HAYES COMMANDS?

Glad I could help. Sorry I don't know about either the dips or the
MIGENT commmands, though doubtless there are others here who do.
Good luck; I'm sure someone here will come through for you!
dup. chars.
>Function:?CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
11/01/89 21:35:08

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 210016; next msg =42710;  367 active msgs.
Prev. call 11/01/89 @ 00:07, next msg was 42703
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking fo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:kili
>Function:?ed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
I don't understand 'ED', WARD
Type ? for list of valid commands.
>Function:?w3{^U
?{dir ^U
?dir log;dir killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG.   2 
SUMMARY.  24 
11/01/89,00:15:13,209989,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,2
11/01/89,00:24:35,209990,1,BILL WARD,bridgeview,
>Help: FUNCTION,
>Help:  ,
>Help: 503,
11/01/89,00:34:46,209991,2,ALEX ZELL,,
11/01/89,02:21:46,209992,2,JIM MORAVEC,,3
11/01/89,05:22:12,209993,2,PETE JONES,,0
11/01/89,06:00:10,209994,2,PETE CANTELE,,1
11/01/89,07:06:11,209995,2,ALEX ZELL,,
11/01/89,08:03:57,209996,2,MIKE DEER,,
E#42704,7
11/01/89,10:19:18,209997,1,BRUNO RUSSO,,36
11/01/89,11:57:30,209998,1,DOUG MOORE,vernon hills/ il.,5
11/01/89,13:21:48,209999,2,LELAND BONNELL,Glendale Hts/IL 60139,10
11/01/89,14:23:07,210000,1,BILL WOLFF,,
E#42705,14
11/01/89,14:37:26,210001,1,LANE LARRISON,,1
11/01/89,14:51:47,210002,2,RICHARD KOSZYK,WHEATON/IL,
>Help: HC,
E#42706,
E#42707,79
11/01/89,16:08:26,210003,2,MARTY LINGG,,1
11/01/89,16:12:31,210004,2,RICHARD KOSZYK,,
11/01/89,16:41:20,210005,2,RICHARD KOSZYK,,7
11/01/89,16:50:16,210006,2,RICHARD HINTON,,
E#42708,2
11/01/89,17:17:27,210007,1,LANE LARRISON,,1
11/01/89,17:30:29,210008,1,TOM FLASCH,,13
11/01/89,17:45:30,210009,1,DAVE DAVE,chicago,
11/01/89,18:47:19,210010,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,2
11/01/89,19:16:49,210011,1,JOSEPH SKOM,,2
11/01/89,20:17:12,210012,2,CURTIS WEAKLEY,CHICAGO/ IL,8
11/01/89,20:27:24,210013,2,JIM POLOUS,,2
11/01/89,20:39:54,210014,2,THOMAS FRITZ,San Antonio/,
E#42709,11
11/01/89,20:57:43,210015,2,CURTIS WEAKLEY,,3
11/01/89,21:35:11,210016,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42703 11/01/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => SUSMIT PATEL: "XMODEM ON MAINFRAME"
42704 11/01/89 MIKE DEER => CALVIN CURTINDOLPH: "R/NEW AREA CODE"
42705 11/01/89 BILL WOLFF => BILL WOLFF: "R/HAYES COMMANDS?"
42706 11/01/89 RICHARD KOSZYK => BRENT JONES: "R/MCI MAIL"
42707 11/01/89 RICHARD KOSZYK => [-: "NEED STARTING A BBS"
42708 11/01/89 RICHARD HINTON => ALL: "PRODIGY"
42709 11/01/89 THOMAS FRITZ => SYSOP: "XMODEM"

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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.

Msg 42703 is 22 line(s) on 11/01/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to SUSMIT PATEL re: XMODEM ON MAINFRAME

Can't be done. The commo controllers aren't flexible enough to allow
the following characteristics:
 8-bit ascii transparency
 -and-
 fixed-length blocks with NO particular terminating char
 -and-
 timing out when insufficient chars are received.
 NCP could perhaps be patched to allow the 8-bit transparency, but
you'd have to write a highly interactive program to "suck in the buffer"
many times per second, in order to get around the fact that the commo
controllers don't handle the fixed-length blocks.
 What WOULD be practical, would be to write a 100% PC based system,
that answers the phone, accepts uploads, then using an application
programming interface (such as into IBM's Entry Emulation), using the
host IND$FILE, send the file up to the host.
 The problem would be that you'd need a dedicated PC to support the
transfers. You could also be more sophisticated, and allow the dial-in
user to access the host, using the PC like a "protocol converter",
i.e. where you look at keystrokes from the PC, and pass them in an
appropriate manner to the API to the host, and send screens back from
the host to the PC - but this is a LOT of work. Might be a popular
product, though!

Msg 42704 is 06 line(s) on 11/01/89 from MIKE DEER
to CALVIN CURTINDOLPH re: R/NEW AREA CODE

calvin,
 I am in Chicago, on Michigan Avenue. Area Code 708 does not work
yet. I understand it did about 2 weeks ago. It was just a test.
We made the mistake of reconfiguring our dial-back box to use 708
when calling the suburbs - and it worked - for about a week.
now it doesnt. IBT says wait 'till the scheduled date.

Msg 42705 is 14 line(s) on 11/01/89 from BILL WOLFF
to BILL WOLFF re: R/HAYES COMMANDS?

Thanks a lot for your input, I have received info of the dips and some
"&" command set. So for the most part, I should have everything I need.
But if someone knows some helpful info the manual has that us with
Hayes compatible intelligence would not know, please share it.
Thanks! <BW>

Also I do have the MIGENT and it's manual. The reason I question it is
because althought it is Hayes compaible, it lacks a speaker, only stores
one number, and powers itself down when the RS-232 floats. I first
bought it for my Epson PX-8, but it powers down (the modem) when I entered
my download or upload menu! Real bad news! The modem would just hang-up!
No problems on other computer although! Just the PX-8 is comserving
power I think! It does a good job too. Runs 20 hours on a charge. Not
handy with "The Pocket Modem" though!

Msg 42706 is 02 line(s) on 11/01/89 from RICHARD KOSZYK
to BRENT JONES re: R/MCI MAIL

see pc magazine dated 08/89 vol 8 no. 14 for article on mci mail, at&t mail
and western union telegraph's easylink

Msg 42707 is 05 line(s) on 11/01/89 from RICHARD KOSZYK
to [- re: NEED STARTING A BBS

we need to obtain info on bbs system software. we have such questions
as where do we get bbs system software, how many such products are
available, what are their capabilities, do they have hooks to ms-dos,
etc. we are admitted rookies in this area. please contact rick
koszyk or john stamm by voice phone312-682-7030. thanx.

Msg 42708 is 05 line(s) on 11/01/89 from RICHARD HINTON
to ALL re: PRODIGY

Well I kOjust got the Prodigy package and set up the system. But it
like a giant gab fest or news show. I don't see tt of
pay10.00 a month to hear news you could get one TV. Is Prodigy
good for anything else? Are there any special interest groups
having reasonably informed people? Thanks Richard Hinton.

Msg 42709 is 11 line(s) on 11/01/89 from THOMAS FRITZ
to SYSOP re: XMODEM

I have PC-SIG's CDROM on-line here in San Antonio Tx. I would
like some Information on this prodocal. I have a driver for this
CD, but I would like it to be able to D/L stright from my program
 I did find it from PC-SIG Disk Number 54 and your BBS number was on
it. Is there a w{ For me to get a new copy?
 Thomas Fritz
 13050 Brookgarden
 San Antonio, TX.
 78232
 Voice 512-490-7247
 BBS 512-490-8827
dup. chars.
>Function:?r;42709