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CBBS(R) 4.0.3a
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05/24/89 23:48:48
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Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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?^U
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
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Logging name to disk...
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You are caller 205723; next msg =41846; 478 active msgs.
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Prev. call 05/18/89 @ 21:38, next msg was 41829
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Recording logon for next time.
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Use FULL? to check assignments
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?^U
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?xxxxx
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"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abort.
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
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LOG. 113
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KILLED. 39
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SUMMARY. 31
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05/24/89,23:48:51,205723,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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41829 05/19/89 BILL WOLFF => KEVIN KEYSER: "R/NEED COMPUTER"
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41830 05/19/89 BILL WOLFF => JERRY OLSEN: "R/NEED COMPUTER"
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41831 05/20/89 BILL WOLFF => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/IEEE-484"
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short
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No dup. chars.
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>Function:?or;*;short
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41829 05/19/89 BILL WOLFF => KEVIN KEYSER: "R/NEED COMPUTER"
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41830 05/19/89 BILL WOLFF => JERRY OLSEN: "R/NEED COMPUTER"
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41831 05/20/89 BILL WOLFF => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/IEEE-484"
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41832 05/21/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "CROSSTALK VERSION 3.0"
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41833 05/21/89 BILL WOLFF => ERIC BOHLMAN: "CCBS AND THINGS."
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41834 05/21/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "LINE NOISE???"
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41835 05/21/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "DISK DOCTOR"
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41836 05/21/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "BASCOM AND THANKS!"
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41837 05/21/89 JIM POLOUS => ALL: "HD CONTROLLERS 4SALE"
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41838 05/22/89 PAUL STREETER => BILL WOLFF: "R/ XTALK R/ LINE NOISE"
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41839 05/22/89 JOHN MITCHELL => SYSOP: "GREETINGS"
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41840X 05/22/89 BILL WOLFF => PAUL STREETER: "R/ XTALK R/ LINE NOISE"
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41841 05/22/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => BILL WOLFF: "R/IEEE-484"
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41842 05/24/89 JERRY OLSEN => BILL WOLFF: "R/VARIOUS MSGS"
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41843 05/24/89 STEVE COHEN => ALL: "IBM PC FOR SALE"
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41844 05/24/89 BILL WOLFF => JERRY OLSEN: "R/VARIOUS MSGS"
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41845 05/24/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "TWO OSBORNE EXEC TRICKS!"
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- End of summary -
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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
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Msg 41829 is 30 line(s) on 05/19/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to KEVIN KEYSER re: R/NEED COMPUTER
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Yes Kevin, I know. I tried to talk him into one. But he wants to just
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get his computer fixed. I told him also instead of just pouring money
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into the one he has, just buy a used Kaypro for the same price as get-
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ting his old one fixed. But he would listen, because he said he really
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likes his Kaypro II. He never had another computer before. I did led
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him my Compaq 286 once though.
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I too have found the Commodore 128 a great CP/M computer. Did you know
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in the operating system can store 10 different CP/M formats plus it's
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own? It has 5 preprogrammed and you can add 5 more or change to a new
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10 set. See the Public Domain program called "UNIDRIVE128" for more
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details. You have to BOOT with a Commodore format CP/M, but after that
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any format that you would like to use after that. Mix and match if you
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like. Add half a Meg for $150.00 to $200.00 and just plug it in like
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a power cord (no opening the case to the computer to void the warranty)
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here. What could be simplier?
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Many people think that MS-DOS has the largest software base. Which in
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itself is true. But the Commodore 128 can run CP/M, C64, C128, and
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GEOS operating systems and when added together, makes the C128 capable
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of running more software than any other computer ever.
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The CP/M is one of the most powerful versions I have ever seen. The
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ability to use the E: drive to make use of one drive system to look
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like two, is rare in the CP/M world. It works in MS-DOS, only if you
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really do have one drive.
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Commodore was also very smart to make their disk drives programmable.
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It has the same micro used in Apples. If you give the C= drives a key-
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board and video chip, you have another computer.
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Msg 41830 is 21 line(s) on 05/19/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to JERRY OLSEN re: R/NEED COMPUTER
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Boy, thanks for all the info! You did just fine. It answered all my
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questions, better than I had hoped for! I am glad that dBase will work on
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MS-DOS machines. As I do use MS-DOS, but not dBase. Just on my CP/M
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computers. Although there is dBase on the MS-DOS on the hard disk, I've
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never used it. But I don't think I'll let it sit forever without use.
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My friend seems not to be to favorable of the idea of buying another
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computer, instead of not repairing his. He has used it about 6 years every
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day. And I think that he will be throwing money away, if he gets it fixed.
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The problem with his computer, is that, let's say he is running WordStar.
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It works fine for a while, then he gets BIOS errors. It seems that either
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drive does it. But if CONTROL/TAB is pushed. The program continues. More
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BIOS errors pop up, but C/T continues to work. The KX command seems to
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destroyes the file, but KD works. When it acts up a lot. You even get BIOS
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errors on boot. But C/T works again too.
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Is there a way to boot off the "B" drive on a Kaypro II, instead of the "A"
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drive? You can on a lot of other different computers, CP/M and MS-DOS types.
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BTW, my home number is 777-2067 if you want to chat. later <BW>
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Msg 41831 is 10 line(s) on 05/20/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/IEEE-484
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Thank's for the info about the pin-outs of the IEEE-488. I knew that, but
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if I didn't, I would have had a hard time. I have a magazine that states
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that the manual for the Osborne Executive is even wrong. So they give the
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correct wirinH. I would like to buy one made up, but I can make my own if I
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can find that odd IEEE-488 plug. I may have to change the one on the
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Osborne to get it to work.
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My friend isn't interested in a Kaypro 10. But I like to learn new things.
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How big is the hard disk on a Kaypro 10? What does it run for a used one?
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Thanks, chat later <BW>.
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Msg 41832 is 11 line(s) on 05/21/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ALL re: CROSSTALK VERSION 3.0
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Does anybody know of any patches to CrossTalk for CP/M? How about a
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patch for using it on a Commodore 128? I am using it now on my Osborne
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Computer.
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One feature is really nice is it will add a space if you are dumping
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text to the modem and the line contains just a return character.
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It about as hard to learn as dBase, MEX, and WordStar. But all these
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programs are easy once you learn them.
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Anybody else here use CrossTalk?
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Msg 41833 is 08 line(s) on 05/21/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ERIC BOHLMAN re: CCBS AND THINGS.
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Hello Eric;
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Hey; I noticed that you are on a lot of BBS's. One that really caught
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my eye was on CCBS. Did you have a Commodore? Did you work with Mike
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setting up that board? Is Mike still alive somewhere? What kind of
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computer is that board running on? It states it is on ROM.
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Well I gotta go, nice chatting with you again, bye. <BW>
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Msg 41834 is 07 line(s) on 05/21/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ALL re: LINE NOISE???
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I have asked this before, but I havn't gotten a reply. I have a lot of
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trouble on this board and another with line noise. But the others I
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have no problem. 300 baud works, but 1200 and 2400 is ruff.
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Does any one else have this problem? I have used two different
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computers and modems, same thing. I am an experienced user, so I don't
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think it is my fault.
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Msg 41835 is 08 line(s) on 05/21/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ALL re: DISK DOCTOR
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Has anybody got 'DISK DOCTOR' version 1.40 by SuperSoft Inc. to
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work on anything besides a Osborne 1? I have tried it both on a
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Osborne Executive and a Commodore 128. I never exspected it to
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work on the Commodore. But you never know? The manual describes
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how to run it on the OCC 1 (Osborne 1). Any ideas?
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Oh yea, my copy says 'QC SAMPLE' on it. Quality Control Sample? I
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did buy it in a computer surplus store in San Jose, California.
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Msg 41836 is 06 line(s) on 05/21/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ALL re: BASCOM AND THANKS!
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Thanks to everyone who helped me through the BASCOM not running on
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anything but a Osborne 1. I got the patch (it's real short) to get
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it to work on other computers. If anyone cares, it's three to seven
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times faster than MBASIC. EBASIC runs the same as MBASIC semi-
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compiled. Does anyone use EBASIC any more? Never used CBASIC. Is
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it any faster? Thanks all!
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Msg 41837 is 05 line(s) on 05/21/89 from JIM POLOUS
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to ALL re: HD CONTROLLERS 4SALE
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I have the following two hard disk controllers for sale:
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1. Western Digital WD1003-WA2, MFM, 2 hd, 2 floppy for AT.$100 OBO
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2. OMTI 5527 RLL, 5", 2 hd for XT.$ 50 OBO
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Jim, 422-0526 (voice), 422-0527 (data) or reply here.
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Msg 41838 is 07 line(s) on 05/22/89 from PAUL STREETER
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to BILL WOLFF re: R/ XTALK R/ LINE NOISE
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I used Crosstalk XVI for a long time; it was bundled with my Ventel modem.
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I now have a USR sportster 2400, and "traded in" Xtalk XVI for XTALK MARKIV.
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I doubt that this will help you much. I also get line noise often on CBBS
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but not often on SYSLINK, the only other system I use. I assume the problem
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is usually in my line. If it happens a lot, and if you also hear noise
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while talking to someone, complain to Daughter Bell. (Ma Bell, R.I.P.)
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If the oise is consistent, they may be able to find and fix it.
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Msg 41839 is 07 line(s) on 05/22/89 from JOHN MITCHELL
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to SYSOP re: GREETINGS
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Hello ! This is my 1st call outide England and this Board is one oflled. I
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of the 1st I have called. I would like to call back again soon
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and I wouldbe very grateful if you would validate me as a registered
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user. Sorry about typing errors - the screen echo takes A-G-E-S to appear
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on my screen. {
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Best wishes,
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JOHN MITCHELL (LONDON, ENGLAND)
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No msg 41840
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Msg 41841 is 12 line(s) on 05/22/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
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to BILL WOLFF re: R/IEEE-484
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1) The Kaypro 10 has a 10-meg HD. Used they range from $250-$300 (though
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there will always be people asking $600 or more).
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2) I have a Commodore 128, though I haven't used it a great deal in
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the last year or so. I did manage to write a terminal program for
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it, as well as adapt some stuff (mostly cross-assemblers) that I had
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written for the 64.
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3) I believe that CCBS runs on an 8000-series machine.
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4) I suspect that it would be hard to patch Crosstalk for the 128 because
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of the way that machine implements serial I/O in software. You cn't
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just tell it what location to check to read/write a character and to
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read status. Programs like MEX and IMP can deal with it because they
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relay on an overlay or insert to handle all the I/O stuff.
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Msg 41842 is 26 line(s) on 05/24/89 from JERRY OLSEN
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to BILL WOLFF re: R/VARIOUS MSGS
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For a number of reasons, your friend <really> should pick up another
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machine, including the simple fact that repair <will> cost more than
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replacement. If he wants to stick with CP/M Kaypros, he can easily find
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a used Kaypro 4 for perhaps $100 or so.The problems you outline indicate
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that a repair person probably would just replace the main board-if one can
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be found. (The factory doesn't have them, so the repair person would have
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to scrounge around.effectively charging for the price of a KII <and>
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perhaps $50/hr.) But if your friend still insists, I can dig up the phone
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number of a fellow who would work for a reasonable price, though it also
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would involve UPS charges. I know if I ever were crazy enough to invest
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$ in an old KII still sitting on the shelf here, I'd have serious doubts
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whether it would make it across the country intact, though. The kind of
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problems you outline can be expected to get progressively worse over time,
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so it certainly would make sense for him to make plans now rather than be
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without equipment for a time. There just aren't any "drop in" CP/M Kaypro
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repair shops to be found anymore.
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No, there isn't any practical way to boot off of the B: drive, though he
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certainly could build a boot-up submit command which would always log drive
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B: after a cold boot, though I wouldn't recommend it. Easy enough, but.
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Line noise seems to be more common here (esp. at 2400) than some other
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boards. Best bet is to use a term program which allows the filtering out of
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selective characters (the ones giving you the most frequent problem).
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Good luck.
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Msg 41843 is 09 line(s) on 05/24/89 from STEVE COHEN
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to ALL re: IBM PC FOR SALE
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FOR SALE: True IBM-PC 2 PP,SP,clock 640K, 20MB
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- 256k motherboard 8088 4.77Mhz (original)
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- Amdek 210A monitor and 100 graphics card
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- AST Six Pack w/clock,par port, ser port
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- Seagate 225 20MB drive and controller
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- 360k floppy (original)
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PRICE $ 975 firm Please call Steve at 328-5959
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Msg 41844 is 09 line(s) on 05/24/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to JERRY OLSEN re: R/VARIOUS MSGS
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Yep, I wish he would just buy a used one. If he doesn't oh well.
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Filtering certain characters for the line noise problem? Yep,
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CrossTalk let's me do just that. But the line noise just ussually bump
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the character to just one higher. Tough to filter that huh?
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No keyboard short-cut for booting off of the "B" drive. If I work on
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his, can I just swap connectors inside to do the same thing? I want to
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prove the "A" drive isn't a problem by not using it. Any ideas?
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Msg 41845 is 04 line(s) on 05/24/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ALL re: TWO OSBORNE EXEC TRICKS!
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I don't know if this was ever noted before. If so, please forgive the
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retype. But playing around I found out that a OSBORNE EXECUTIVE can
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boot off the B: drive by CTRL-TAB. Also pressing "T" instead of the
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above, places the computer in a test loop forever. <BW>
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