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372 lines
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CBBS(R) 4.0.2a
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04/10/89 23:41:38
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Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
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?^U
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?^U
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
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Logging name to disk...
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You are caller 204579; next msg =41669; 481 active msgs.
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Prev. call 04/07/89 @ 22:03, next msg was 41654
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Recording logon for next time.
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Use FULL? to check assignments
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?^U
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?xxxxx
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"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abort.
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
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LOG. 6
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KILLED. 150
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SUMMARY. 30
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04/10/89,23:41:42,204579,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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41654 04/07/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "THE FUTURE OF PCS"
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41655 04/07/89 PETE CANTELE => ALL: "HAYES 1200B FOR SALE"
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type-50 log,ward c;or;*;short
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04/07/89,22:14:59,204480,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
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04/07/89,23:15:22,204481,2,PETE CANTELE,,
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E#41655,25
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04/07/89,23:50:14,204482,1,YOHMA GRAY,,1
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04/08/89,00:17:38,204483,1,SCOTT FREEMAN,,
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E#41656,3
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04/08/89,00:39:16,204484,1,DENNIS LEONG,,3
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04/08/89,01:57:52,204485,2,PAUL STREETER,,80
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04/08/89,03:38:49,204486,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
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E#41657,6
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04/08/89,07:07:45,204487,3,BILL WOLFF,,2
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04/08/89,07:55:34,204488,2,PAUL STREETER,,
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E#41658,32
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04/08/89,09:17:22,204489,9,CARY MEDNICK,Forest Park/ Il,2
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04/08/89,10:38:15,204490,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,3
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04/08/89,10:41:23,204491,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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04/08/89,11:38:25,204492,1,GREG VERIVE,BEDFORD PARK,13
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04/08/89,12:04:15,204493,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,5
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04/08/89,13:15:23,204494,2,RON BINKOWSKI,Dolton/ IL,8
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04/08/89,13:48:23,204495,3,JIM COLLING,,3
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04/08/89,14:05:15,204496,1,DAN SEIBOLD,,0
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04/08/89,14:22:58,204497,1,JULIAN SOLOMENSKY,,2
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04/08/89,14:25:01,204498,1,JULIAN SOLOMENSKY,,
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>Help: 1,
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>Help: ,
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04/08/89,14:41:11,204499,2,CALVIN CURTINDOLPH,,4
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04/08/89,16:15:52,204500,2,JERRY HEYDEMANN,Evanston/ IL,4
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04/08/89,16:32:00,204501,3,BILL WOLFF,,
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E#41659,
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E#41660,7
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04/08/89,18:37:26,204502,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,3
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04/08/89,19:10:21,204503,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,1
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04/08/89,19:28:48,204504,2,DICK FAIRBANKS,milwaukee/ wi,8
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04/08/89,19:45:12,204505,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,21
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04/08/89,19:53:03,204506,3,BILL WOLFF,,1
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04/08/89,19:57:16,204507,1,ED FANTA,,4
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04/08/89,20:30:10,204508,1,SCOTT FREEMAN,,1
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04/08/89,20:48:57,204509,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,6
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04/08/89,21:39:31,204510,9,THOM QUICK,,2
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04/08/89,21:50:31,204511,2,TOM LAMB,,8
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04/08/89,22:38:40,204512,2,MILT VASICH,naperville/ ill.,3
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04/08/89,23:33:35,204513,1,RYAN HERBSTRITT,RIVER FOREST/ IL,2
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04/09/89,00:33:50,204514,2,MIKE ASHE,,
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04/09/89,00:38:51,204515,2,MIKE ASHE,,3
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04/09/89,00:50:42,204516,2,JIM POLOUS,,4
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04/09/89,01:22:49,204517,1,DENNIS DUFFNER,,
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E#41661,4
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04/09/89,02:58:47,204518,2,CLIFF SHARP,,13
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04/09/89,04:58:04,204519,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
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E#41662,
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E#41663,16
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04/09/89,06:37:45,204520,1,LARRY HITZ,,6
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04/09/89,07:07:25,204521,2,LARRY HITZ,,4
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]LARRY HITZ,
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04/09/89,07:49:33,204522,2,ALEX ZELL,,
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04/09/89,07:58:43,204523,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
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04/09/89,08:45:49,204524,1,DENNIS TOKOPH,Des Plaines/ IL,10
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04/09/89,08:54:59,204525,2,PAUL STREETER,,3
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04/09/89,09:13:56,204526,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,2
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04/09/89,09:17:18,204527,1,BILL WOLFF,,3
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04/09/89,11:43:58,204528,2,IRA SACHS,,7
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04/09/89,12:08:56,204529,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,2
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04/09/89,12:12:35,204530,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,1
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04/09/89,12:37:26,204531,2,CLIFF WALLACH,deerfield/ill,10
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04/09/89,12:49:48,204532,1,DON GANDHI,Patel,5
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]THIS PROGRAMM SUCKS, IT HAS NO GAMES FOR MY NINE CHILDREN.
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IF YOU EXPECT ANY MORE BUSSNESS FROM MY COLLIGUES AND I
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GET GAMES NOW!
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DON GANDHI,
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04/09/89,13:17:49,204533,1,TIM CROSS,,7
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04/09/89,13:46:58,204534,1,MICHAEL BELANGER,Oak Park/ IL,18
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04/09/89,14:23:10,204535,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2
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04/09/89,15:11:43,204536,1,TOM LAMB,,
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04/09/89,16:02:17,204537,2,PHIL JERN,,12
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04/09/89,16:26:12,204538,1,TIM CROSS,,7
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04/09/89,16:40:19,204539,1,JEFF GITCHEL,Rockford IL,13
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04/09/89,18:05:19,204540,2,MIKE COOK,,2
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04/09/89,19:55:27,204541,1,SCOTT FREEMAN,,1
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04/09/89,20:19:21,204542,1,MIKE HILL,LIBERTYVILLE/IL,5
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04/09/89,20:23:11,204543,2,BILL TANEY,,2
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04/09/89,20:27:55,204544,1,MIKE HILL,,4
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04/09/89,21:07:42,204545,1,JOHN PETENES,,9
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04/09/89,21:52:42,204546,2,JIM POLOUS,,1
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04/09/89,22:15:03,204547,3,ALAN LAYA,bridgeview,
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>Help: MESSAGES,
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E#41664,
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>Help: NO,72
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04/09/89,23:44:04,204548,2,BILL MATTSON,,9
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04/10/89,03:19:59,204549,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
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E#41665,4
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04/10/89,05:30:33,204550,2,PETE JONES,,1
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04/10/89,06:30:32,204551,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,2
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04/10/89,07:03:44,204552,2,DENNIS STAHL,,5
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04/10/89,08:34:05,204553,2,JOE HANNON,,2
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04/10/89,09:26:17,204554,9,MIKE ANDREWS,,4
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04/10/89,09:37:37,204555,9,MIKE ANDREWS,,
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E#41666,6
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04/10/89,10:08:31,204556,2,HEINZ LANGE,,
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E#41667,6
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04/10/89,11:26:16,204557,1,KEN STOX,,7
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]Geez, if this guy has got 9 mutants, where does he get time
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to log in here ?? And he can spell too !!
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Cheers!
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KEN STOX,
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04/10/89,11:46:01,204558,3,PETER BIERMAN,,
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04/10/89,11:51:24,204559,3,PETER BIERMAN,,
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04/10/89,12:20:27,204560,1,GARY MCCOY,,1
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04/10/89,12:33:47,204561,1,GRANT KILLEY,,3
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04/10/89,14:20:29,204562,2,JIM MILLS,,8
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04/10/89,15:20:42,204563,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
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04/10/89,15:59:40,204564,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,1
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04/10/89,16:27:33,204565,1,MARTY LINGG,,0
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04/10/89,16:57:41,204566,2,GARY JOHNSON,NEW BEDFORD MA,7
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04/10/89,17:24:38,204567,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1
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04/10/89,17:29:37,204568,2,HANK HOLEVINSKY,SOUTH HOLLAND/ IL,5
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04/10/89,17:33:20,204569,2,HANK HOLEVINSKY,,13
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04/10/89,18:10:35,204570,3,ALAN LAYA,,3
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04/10/89,19:05:00,204571,2,JOHN HAYES,,8
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04/10/89,19:13:11,204572,3,BILL WOLFF,,
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E#41668,7
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04/10/89,19:46:40,204573,2,JIM POLOUS,,1
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04/10/89,21:30:39,204574,2,DAVID GIBBS,,0
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04/10/89,21:53:25,204575,1,HESCHEL WEINER,Chicago,4
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04/10/89,22:00:00,204576,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,10
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04/10/89,22:10:05,204577,1,JIM GUSTAS,OAKLAWN/IL,40
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04/10/89,23:26:56,204578,2,BILL TANEY,,1
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04/10/89,23:41:42,204579,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
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41654 04/07/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "THE FUTURE OF PCS"
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41655 04/07/89 PETE CANTELE => ALL: "HAYES 1200B FOR SALE"
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41656 04/08/89 SCOTT FREEMAN => ALL: "FOR SALE!"
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41657 04/08/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => BILL WOLFF: "R/TURBO PASCAL CONVERSION?"
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41658 04/08/89 PAUL STREETER => ALL: "R/ PREDICTIONS"
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41659 04/08/89 BILL WOLFF => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/TURBO PASCAL. R/41657"
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41660 04/08/89 BILL WOLFF => ALL: "UDSD PASCAL???"
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41661 04/09/89 DENNIS DUFFNER => WRD: "SMITHSONIAN"
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41662 04/09/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => BILL WOLFF: "R/UDSD PASCAL???"
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41663 04/09/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => PAUL STREETER: "R/ PREDICTIONS"
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41664 04/09/89 ALAN LAYA => ALL: "T/PASCAL V4.0 EXEC FUNCTION"
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41665 04/10/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => ALAN LAYA: "R/T/PASCAL V4.0 EXEC FUNCTION"
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41666 04/10/89 MIKE ANDREWS => BILL WOLFF: "R/TURBO PASCAL CONVERSION?"
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41667 04/10/89 HEINZ LANGE => ALL: "GKS GRAPHICS CODE?"
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41668 04/10/89 BILL WOLFF => MIKE ANDREWS: "THANKS!"
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- End of summary -
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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
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Msg 41654 is 23 line() on 04/07/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
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to ALL re: THE FUTURE OF PCS
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What do you think the future of PCs is?
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I see laptops going "every which way" - there's a market for
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"smaller, lighter, more portable", and also a marketplace for
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"my one big powerful machine that I take with me".
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Mark Eppley, Prez of Travelling Software, says that this will
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be the year for the Pocket PC. I can't wait!
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I would love to be able to do my reports, and write (text, not
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publish) a newsletter while commuting on the train.
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Who knows what will become the standard MEDIA - I hear Zenith
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is going fot the 2" diskette! (or was it 2.5"?). Others are going
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for software cartridges. - silicon, etc.
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My REAL requirement is: (1) to have the ctrl key left of A; and
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(2) to (related to 1) be able to run my favorite editor on it.
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I could get by with 256K, actually, and a 2.5" diskette, and a
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"typeable" keyboard, though I would be in the minority with such
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meager requirements.
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Curious for your ideas and opinions.
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What machine do each of YOU see in YOUR future? I think I'm more
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interested in true portability, and not as interested (probably because
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of the investment) in "high end" stuff - my 10mhz 0-wait state machine
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is going to hold me for a while, though I could use more disk, or better
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organization of my disk.
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Msg 41655 is 08 line(s) on 04/07/89 from PETE CANTELE
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to ALL re: HAYES 1200B FOR SALE
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FOR SALE - HAYES 1200b internal modem.
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Auto dial/auto answer; can be used as COM1 or COM2 device.
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Complete with documentation.
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It works perfectly. I'm going to a 2400 bps modem at COM3.
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$95 or BEST OFFER!
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Please call 418-1615.
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If I don't answer please leave a msg. with my answering machine.
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Msg 41656 is 05 line(s) on 04/08/89 from SCOTT FREEMAN
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to ALL re: FOR SALE!
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Hayes Smartmodem 2400 for sale.
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Never used guaranteed.
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Originally $499.00 asking $350.00
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or trade for PC/XT compatible VGA board.
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Leave message if interested.
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Msg 41657 is 09 line(s) on 04/08/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
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to BILL WOLFF re: R/TURBO PASCAL CONVERSION?
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The communications code, at the very least, will need to be completely
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reworked because the TP program is almost certainly making direct I/O
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accesses to the serial ports (the facilities that DOS provides for this
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are almost useless). Remember that there's no standard for serial I/O on
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CP/M machines; for example, most CP/M terminal programs use custom overlays
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for each machine they can support.
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Another problem is that there are a fair number of differences between Turbo
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Pascal version 4 and version 3; only version 3 is available for CP/M.
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Msg 41658 is 30 line(s) on 04/08/89 from PAUL STREETER
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to ALL re: R/ PREDICTIONS
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1. Microsoft will not introduce Quick COBOL.
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2. Borland will not introduce TURBO COBOL.
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3. Herb Grosch will not be elected CEO of IBM.
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4. Onyl Roger Hale and Ward will know who Herb Grosch is, and they won't
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really care.
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5. Unless the METRA line you use is a lot smoother than the Burlington,
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which I used to ride, you won't be able to do much work on the train,
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even with a pocket computer. (Someone prove me wromg by saying how many
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people already work with laptops on the train. I could never concentrate
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enough to do anything useful during the ride.)
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6. CPM machines and CPM shops won't die and a lot of obsolete machines will
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be made and purchased by people who realize they are the most cost
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effective for most tasks.
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7. A useful pocket cumputer would haqve to have some kind of keyboard
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technology that I can't imagine in order to be a good idea for most of
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us, but massive memory will be easy.
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8. Flat screens for color VGA/EGA should be possible now, if they are not
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on the market already.
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9. My best prediction is that laptops with a 12 Mhz 286 r 386, 40 Mb or
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larger disk capacity, LPT1, LPT2, COM1, and COM2 ports built in and
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at least 2 short slots and one full length slot will become affordable
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as an alternative to a desk top computer.
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10. Someone will introduce an envelope feeder of production capacity for
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"normal" dot matrix printer. The repeatability of the registration
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will be 1/8 " or better.
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My introduction to computers was via a Honeywell 400 (made by
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Honeywell, not GE). It was upgraded to its maximum memory of 32 K just
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after I started. It had 3 phase power to a motor generator for its power
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supply, 3 tons of air conditiioning with 3 tons backup, a CE on site 8
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hours a day, and took 1 hour to compile 1000 lines of COBOL vs 1 min on PC.
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Msg 41659 is 03 line(s) on 04/08/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/TURBO PASCAL. R/41657
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Hmmm. I guess it is time for an IBM compatable laptop, huh? I was
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going to also improve the software from CP/M Turbo Pascal and it
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sounds like I would be asking for more trouble than it is worth.
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Msg 41660 is 06 line(s) on 04/08/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to ALL re: UDSD PASCAL???
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I have a question on UDSD Pascal! I got it free with my Osborne
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Executive. They also call it the "P" system. I never done much with
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it, but they said that the system uses a universal format for all
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other "P" systems. So what is this really? The first Pascal language
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or what? I've never done much with it, except boot it up and say, "Oh
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that's nice!" and then put it away.
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Msg 41661 is 01 line(s) on 04/09/89 from DENNIS DUFFNER
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to WARD re: SMITHSONIAN
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It's be only right, considering!
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Msg 41662 is 10 line(s) on 04/09/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
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to BILL WOLFF re: R/UDSD PASCAL???
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It's "UCSD" (the software was originally developed at the University of
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California, San Diego). The P-system was an alternate operating system,
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originally introduced on Apples if I remember right, that supported Pascal.
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The idea was for the compiler to generate a "universal" intermediate code
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rather than native code. Each version of the P-system would have its own
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interpreter for this code, known as P-code. Of course, this had some draw-
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backs: execution was rather slow, and since file system facilities aren't
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the same from machine to machine, they had to be "shoehorned" into a common
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format, meaning that UCSD Pascal programs could use only P-system files, rat
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rather than general files native to the operating system.
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Msg 41663 is 20 line(s) on 04/09/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
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to PAUL STREETER re: R/ PREDICTIONS
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I have trouble seeing how a laptop could support full-size (full HEIGHT)
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slots and still be laptop size. The other features will eventually be
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implemented (though with current chip technology, power consumption goes
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up with clock speed, so that will probably be the last thing done).
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Pocket computer keyboards: If the original "Star Trek" were being produced
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now, the producers would have to come up with some rational-sounding
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explanation for how data gets entered into tricorders (probably mind-reading).
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When the show was originally done, pocket computers were far enough into
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the future that viewers wouldn't thing of questioning it. In the late
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seventies, there were attempts to make "eggs" and other alternate-input
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devices that would allow data entry by pressing combinations of six or
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so switches, but they never caught on. Maybe a tiny trackball to pick out
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letters (seriously, a friend who has very limited use of his hands uses
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that on a Macintosh)? Voice entry might be possible, though it would be
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slow and I can imagine a bunch of people on a train getting their dictation
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crossed up (to say nothing with confidentiality problems; imagine two
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attorneys on opposite sides of a case getting the last two adjacent seats
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on the train, or the stockbroker whose computer "accidentally" listens in
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on some juicy inside information).
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Msg 41664 is 08 line(s) on 04/09/89 from ALAN LAYA
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to ALL re: T/PASCAL V4.0 EXEC FUNCTION
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Need a little help with the Turbo Pascal command 'exec'
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Here's the problem: whenever the exec command is used to execute
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a compiler/interpreter (GW-BASIC or Turbo Pascal itself), the
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command.com file is loaded into the program (???). Also, whenever
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PC-Write is executed using the same command, again the command.com
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file is loaded, forcing me to quit that file and load the desired
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file manually. Any ideas/elanations of this phenom. from all you
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TP Experts out there would be appreciated.
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Msg 41665 is 06 line(s) on 04/10/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
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to ALAN LAYA re: R/T/PASCAL V4.0 EXEC FUNCTION
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I haven't used TP4, but I've done some execing in C, which should be similar.
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Make sure you have ALL the command-line arguments right; I would assume that
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the exec function loads command.com and passes the program name to it as
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an argument, i.e. COMMAND GWBASIC FLOOBLE in order to run FLOOBLE.BAS. If
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the arguments are set up wrong, COMMAND may not be finding the right program
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to execute and may be dropping to prompt mode.
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Msg 41666 is 04 line(s) on 04/10/89 from MIKE ANDREWS
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to BILL WOLFF re: R/TURBO PASCAL CONVERSION?
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Turbo-PASCAL 4.0 is still available for CP/M. I had a copy, but sold it.
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Call Borland to order it. You'll still have to rewrite the I/O routines
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to talk to a CP/M machine. There are some built-in I/O functions in
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TP 4.0, but they're a lot different than what you'd see on a DOS machine.
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Msg 41667 is 04 line(s) on 04/10/89 from HEINZ LANGE
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to ALL re: GKS GRAPHICS CODE?
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As a new user of GKS Graphics calls I am looking for someone willing to
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share some code with me. I am interested in doing pan and zoom techniques
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also would be greatly interested in segment movement info. I will trade
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some digitized graphics for polyline calls.
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Msg 41668 is 02 line(s) on 04/10/89 from BILL WOLFF
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to MIKE ANDREWS re: THANKS!
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Thanks for the reply about Turbo Pascal. It gives me something to think
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about. It would be a good idea to delete this message after you read it.
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dup. chars.
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