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23-Jan-81 23:06:00,8591;000000000000
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Date: Friday, 23 January 1981 23:06-MST
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From: W8SDZ at MIT-MC (Keith B. Petersen)
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To: BLUE at MIT-MC
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cc: FJW at MIT-MC, REM at MIT-MC, W8SDZ at MIT-MC, RJM at MIT-MC,
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INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
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Subject: Remote CP/M list 5.
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RCPMLST5.DOC
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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+ A SUMMARY OF ALL KNOWN (AND RUNNING) REMOTE CP/M SOFTWARE +
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+ EXCHANGE SYSTEMS USING XMODEM FOR FILE TRANSFERS, ASSEMBLED +
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+ BY KELLY SMITH WITH ADDITIONS BY BEN BRONSON & BRUCE RATOFF +
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+ THIS REVISION IS BY BEN BRONSON.
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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+++ Remote CP/M Software Exchange Systems +++
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Last Revised January 14, 1980
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CP/M-Net (tm), (805) 527-9321, Kelly Smith. 24 hrs. 110 & 300
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baud. No alternative long-distance service. Up on 01/13/81
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@ 10 Mb of files on-line. [S. California, Bakersfield area]
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Baltimore Micro-Mail, (301) 655-0393, Rod Hart. Call back.
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Days & Eves. until 10:00. 110-600+ baud. SPRINT, ITT, MCI.
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Up on 01/12/81. @ 1 Mb of files on-line. [Maryland]
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Technical CBBS, (313) 846-6127, Dave Hardy. 24 hrs. 110-600+
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baud. ITT, SPRINT, MCI. Up on 01/13/81 @ 3 Mb of files on-
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line. [Detroit area]
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The Valley Computer Club, (213)-709-5423, Mike Karas. Eves. &
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Wkends. 110 & 300 baud. ITT, SPRINT, MCI. Up on 11/13/80.
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500+ K of files on-line. [Los Angeles area]
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Calamity Cliffs Computer Center, (312) 234-9257, Tom C. 2 PM--
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2 AM. 300-600+ baud. ITT, SPRINT, MCI. Up on 01/13/81.
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@ 1 Mb of files on-line. [Chicago area]
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Royal Oak CP/M, (313) 588-7054, Keith Petersen. Call back. 24
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hrs. 300-600+ baud. ITT, SPRINT, MCI. Up on 01/11/81. @ 700 K
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of files on-line. [Detroit area]
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Ed's Communication Services, (607) 797-6416. Eves., etc. 300
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baud. No alternative long-distance service. Up 11/20/80.
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@ 500 K(?) of files on-line. [Upstate New York]
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Remote CP/M and Bulletin Board System of Iselin, New Jersey
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(201) 283-2724, Bruce Ratoff. Call back. Eves., etc. 110 &
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300 baud. SPRINT, MCI. Up on 01/12/81. @ 2 Mb(?) of files
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on-line. [New Jersey]
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Rick Martinek's System, (414) 774-2683. Days & Eves. 110 & 300
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baud. ITT, SPRINT, MCI. Up on 11/12/80. @ 500 K(?) of files
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on-line. [Milwaukee]
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Amesbury BBS, (617) 388-5125, Howard Moulton. Call back. 24
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hrs. 300 baud. No alternative long-distance service? Up on
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11/07/80. @ 500 K of files on-line. [E. Massachusetts]
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Pasadena CBBS, (213) 799-1632, Dick Mead. 24 hrs. 110-600+
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baud. ITT, SPRINT, MCI. Up on 01/11/81. @ 1 Mb of files on-
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line. [Los Angeles area]
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Long Island CBBS, (516) 698-8619, Tim Nicholas. Call back. 24
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hrs. 300 & 1200 baud. SPRINT, MCI. Up on 12/13/80. @ 1 Mb
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of files on-line. [New York area]
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Bearsville Town SJBBS, (914) 679-6559, Hank Sryszka. Call back.
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Eves. 110-600+ baud. No a.l.d.s.? Up on 12/13/80. @ 500 K
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of files on-line. [Downstate New York]
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Prodigy Systems CBBS, (301) 337-8825. Call back. 24 hrs. 300
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baud. ITT & SPRINT (& MCI?). Up on 11/28/80. @ 500 K of
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files on-line. [Baltimore area]
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Vancouver CBBS, (604) 687-2640, Steve Vinokouroff. 24 hrs?
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300 baud. no a.l.d.s. Up on 01/13/81. 500-1000 K of files
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on-line. [British Columbia]
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Tho. Hogan's System, (812) 334-2522. Wkends. baud rate? no
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a.l.d.s. Up on 08/15/80. [Bloomington, S. Indiana] [perhaps
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no XMODEM -- system mainly for Alpha Micro users]
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NOTES:
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1. Several program exchange systems, though often found on
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lists of CBBS's, have become extinct in recent months:
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/ Provo, Utah (801-375-7000)
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/ St. Johnsbury, Vermont (802-748-9089)
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2. Whether a program exchange system is accessible by an alter-
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native long-distance service should be considered when
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planning to modem over long programs. Charges on SPRINT,
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ITT/CITYCALL and MCI are 50-60% of Ma Bell's regular
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long-distance rates. Baud rate should also be considered
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when using a RCPM system regularly--see note 11 below.
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3. Call-back systems are those where a computer and real
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people share the same telephone line. To contact the
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people, just dial & let the phone ring until you get an
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answer. To contact the computer: (1) dial, (2) let
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the phone ring once, (3) hang up just before the 2nd
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ring, & (4) re-dial.
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4. The systems listed here only carry programs that will
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run under the CP/M operating system, most of them
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public domain software distributed by CPMUG or SIG/M,
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the two main CP/M users' groups. Some of the programs
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involved (especially those in BASIC and PASCAL but also
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a few in Z-80 or 8080 assembly language) can be conver-
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ted to run on other machines quite easily. But systems
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dedicated to downloading programs for the PET, APPLE,
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TRS-80 and NORTHSTAR do exist. Ask experienced users
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in your area, or check through "other systems" listings
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on local CBBS's, ABBS's, FORUM-80's, etc.
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5. XMODEM is a modification of Ward Christensen's original
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MODEM program designed to allow the transfer of files
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between the exchange system and yours. The exchange
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system needs the program, not you; you will probably
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be using one of the many versions of MODEM itself:
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e.g., MODEM2, MODEM527, MODEM926, MODEM7, MBOOT, etc.
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6. Non-XMODEM remote CP/M systems are starting to appear: for
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instance, Ben Miller's Columbus (OH) CBBS, which uses
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the file transmit & receive functions of "MODEM5", an
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early version of Mark Zeiger's major enhancement of the
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Christensen program. At (614) 268-2227 the Columbus
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system is not only a full-fledged CBBS but allows the
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user to enter CP/M in order to take or leave files.
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LICA's BBS on Long Island [at (516) 561-6590; 24 hrs.;
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110-600+ baud] also has a few downloadable ASCII files
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but at present (01/8l) these must be captured like CBBS
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messages and then saved to disk, without any error-
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checking protocol.
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7. Some XMODEM systems also operate as real CBBS's, including
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the ones operated by Dick Mead and Rod Hart. Others,
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like Keith Petersen's & Tom C.'s use a skeleton message-
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handling subprogram called "MINICBBS". Their emphasis is
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on exchanging software, not messages.
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8. A few CBBSs have software exchange functions that require
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the use of a password. Such systems are not listed here.
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9. At present (01/81) the system with the largest disk capacity
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and the most programs up at once is Kelly Smith's running
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a 9+ Mb hard disk. Dave Hardy's, with 3 Morrow-controlled
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drives giving 3+ Mb is in 2nd place. Rick Martinek & sev-
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eral other sysops have plans to go over to hard disk quite
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soon.
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10. No RCPM (or straight CBBS) system is currently running MP/M
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or another multi-tasking OS in combination with more than
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one modem & telephone line. After the hard disks, this is
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expected to be the next important development in non-
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profit computer communications.
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11. The fastest system is Tim Nicholas's, with a Racal-Vadic
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modem capable of 1200 baud, full duplex. The systems using
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PMMIs can in theory sometimes reach 710 baud but are in
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practice limited to 600 baud except under ideal condi-
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tions. Systems with D.C.Hayes & other brands of modem do
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not send faster than 300 baud.
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