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From: Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
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Subject: Re: transfering files from PC or Mac to GS
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 13:33:54 -0600
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Xref: news1.icaen comp.sys.apple2:129808
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Advanced Integration Designs Aust. writes ...
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>
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> i was wondering if someone has got this to work
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> i was looking at ftp.apple.asimov.net and found some old apple 2
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> *.dsk disc images..how are they supposed to be made back onto 5.25"
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> disk?
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> i have adt running on the apple 2gs and on the mac and ibm..
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> doesnt seem to work..i have terminal programs on both though and i
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> can transfer *.shk files between them without problems..
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> any help would be appreciated..
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The best way to transfer files from PC or Mac is via a NULL modem
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connection. You have a telecom terminal program, like Spectrum, running
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on the GS and a telecom terminal program, like Hyperterm, running on the
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PC. You set baud rate the same on each, connect a modem cable from each
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to a NULL modem connector, and send your .DSK (or .SHK, etc.) files via
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Z-modem from the PC to the GS.
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Once on the GS, you can convert .DSK files to diskette using
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DSK2FILE or ASIMOV. (Make sure the 5.25" diskettes you use are
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formatted.)
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Note: Most of the files you download from Asimov will be .DSK files
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which have been compressed to .gz files. (The file name will end with
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".gz".) You can uncompress .gz-compressed .DSK files on your PC using
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WinZip to obtain genuine .DSK image files.
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If you do not have a telecom program on your GS, then, ADT could be
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useful as a 'getting started' step-- i.e. you could use it to transfer a
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disk image of a telecom utilities disk from PC to Apple II.
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Assuming the downloaded copy of ADT is okay, the big problem is
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likely to be getting PC to send the ADT DMP file to your Apple without
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inserting characters. For example, using Hyperterm on the PC you would
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want to make sure that, in the ASCII Settings, "Send line enders" is not
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checked.
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A check that the transfer went well is to go to the monitor and
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look at the beginning and end of the file:
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0803:4C 0E 08 05 00
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0808:01 05 01 00 00 00 D8 20
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....
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1208:60 01 00 01 EF D8 00 00
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1210:00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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If the beginning looks okay but the stuff at $1208-$1216 is different--
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like, the 60 01 00 01 EF D8 ... ends up at $1268 ...--, then, your PC
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telecom program is likely to be sending extra characters.
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For sure, the ADT directions are not as clear as they could be.
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Getting ADT going may take some experimentation.
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In case you are interested in 'getting started' alternatives to ADT
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for transferring Apple2 programs and/or disk image files, below are some
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excerpts from the new Csa2 FAQs:
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From the Csa2 FAQs on Ground file F002T1TCOM.TXT at
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ftp://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2/Faqs
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http://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2/Faqs
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>>
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From: Dave Althoff
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002- How do I get an Applesoft program into a PC-DOS computer
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in text format? Both computers have modems, but I have no
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terminal program for the Apple.
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Make sure that your serial ports are connected together, and run the
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comm program on your PC. Now, for our purposes, lets assume you have the
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serial card in Slot #2.
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Force the PC into terminal mode.
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Make sure the ][ is displaying a *40-column* screen.
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Now, try typing "IN#2" on the ][. Type something on the PC. It should
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appear on the Apple. (Cool, ain't it?!)
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In fact, try typing "PR#2". On either computer. Now, you should get an
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Applesoft prompt on your terminal screen! In fact, you can use the PC
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comm program as a keyboard for your ][!
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All right, at this point, you should have data flying back and forth
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between the two machines. On the ][, type "POKE 33,33".
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Now, on the PC, tell your comm program to start a text capture. Tell it
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to add line feeds after carriage returns.
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On the ][, load the BASIC program, and type LIST. The program listing
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will appear on the Apple screen and be dumped into the PC comm program's
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capture buffer.
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To break communications, type "IN#0" and "PR#0" on the ][.
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From: Jeff Blakeney
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The only things I might add is that you have to make sure that the PC
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and II's baud rates are the same. Preferably 19200 if you want a speedy
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transfer.
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Second thing is that once you have typed IN#2 and PR#2 (or 1 if the
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serial port is in slot 1) is that everything should be typed using the
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PC keyboard. This is because anything you type on the II after those
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two commands will NOT appear on the II's screen. It is much easier to
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type it on the PC as everything you type and would normally be displayed
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on the II will be displayed by the PC's terminal program.
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I have actually used this method to transfer BASIC programs from my PC
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to my II with 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity at 19200 bps. It sure
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makes things easier.
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From: Dave Althoff
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Actually, if you are working in 40-columns at least, when you do IN#2,
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the console input is redirected through the SSC. Fortunately, the SSC
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is kind enough to include keyboard reads in its data input loop, so IN#2
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does not disable your keyboard. Likewise, so long as you are looking at
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the 40-column screen, PR#2 redirects the output hook to the SSC, but the
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SSC does writes back to the screen. So you don't lose your monitor
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either!
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______________________
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From: Bill Mackin
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003- Is there a way to transfer Apple II disks between a an Apple II
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and a PC?
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Sure. Yesterday I downloaded ap2222pc.zip. It was written by some
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guy in Hong Kong. You buy a 25-pin male parallel port connector and two
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8-pin DIP sockets from Radio Shack. He gives the wiring diagram for
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connecting 9 wires between them. You type in a 6502 assembly program on
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your apple at address 300. Save the program, shut things off, hook up
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the wire from your PC printer port to the Apple Game Controller socket,
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turn them on, and run his programs.
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It copies whole Apple disk images over to the PC, or PC to Apple,
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or individual files back and forth! It works great! I've already made
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26 disk images from my old Apple disks (great for backup, too!) and have
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been playing the games from them, moving games around, etc.
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I only had one problem with the ap2222pc program; the first time I
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ran it, my PC was already in Windows and I had printed something to a HP
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LaserJet IV from it; when I turned the Apple on after hooking up the
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cable, the Apple locked up, giving me several different hi-res graphics
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screens in series, no beep, and no cursor. The problem went away when I
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turned the Apple on first, then the PC.
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<<
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Again, the main idea is to get some decent telecom program to your
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GS. Once you do, you will be able to use NULL modem transfers and
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everything will be much easier.
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> also..is it possible to format a 3.5" disk to dos3.3?
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> i found a site with a utility amdos and amlauncher or something..
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> apparantly you can format a 3.5" disk to dos 3.3
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> and the launcher lets you launch dos 3.3 programs with in gs/os..
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>
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> anyone heard of this?
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>
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Yes. AMDOS works pretty much as advertised. When booted from a 3.5"
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diskette, you get two large "DOS 3.3" volumes which are accessed as
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separate drives.
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The catch is that quite a few DOS programs make assumptions about
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disk format and, so, will not run correctly. There do not seem to be any
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good utilities for working with AMDOS; so, transferring, renaming, etc.
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files is a chore.
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I do not know anything about "amlauncher". There are a few schemes
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for, one way or the other, running DOS 3.3 programs from the Finder. So
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far, the best idea seems to be to either convert DOS 3.3 wares for
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ProDOS where possible OR boot any DOS 3.3 stuff you want to run from DOS
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3.3 diskette.
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Rubywand
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