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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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THE BEST OF THE A2 BULLETIN BOARD ON Syndicomm Online
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AND THE BEST OF THE DELPHI A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
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"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 5, No. 7
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Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
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Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
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Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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July 15, 2002
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HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]
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The Desire to Communicate
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The Tinkerer's Corner
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A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS
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Log In Problem---------------------------------------------------[LIP]
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Pre-KFest Chat 2002 in Library-----------------------------------[PKC]
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GEnie Lamp Index Sample Uploaded---------------------------------[GLI]
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Your Reason for Choosing to Use an Apple II Computer?------------[YRC]
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How do Nodes Work?-----------------------------------------------[HNW]
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The Internet Using Marinetti and Bernie ][ The Rescue------------[IMB]
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Casper, Web Hosting for the IIgs?--------------------------------[CWH]
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IF/Text-Adventure Fans-------------------------------------------[ITA]
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Inform Compiler to Compile Z-Code Games--------------------------[ICZ]
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Juiced.GS V7I2---------------------------------------------------[JGS]
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Apple Technical Reference, 2nd Edition Now Complete--------------[TRC]
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Email Address to Request a New Tool Set--------------------------[RTS]
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GSOS Support for Upper/Lower Case Letters in ProDOS File Names---[LFN]
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ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM
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July Issue of Syndicommotion Now Available-----------------------[JIS]
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Blocking Email---------------------------------------------------[BEM]
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Syndicomm Online Store Updated-----------------------------------[OSU]
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To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU]
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DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS
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Creating Image of Hard Drive for Emulator------------------------[CID]
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THE TINKERER'S CORNER-------------------------------------------------[TTC]
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Persistence Pays Off
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]
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An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]
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KFEST 2002
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You Are Invited--------------------------------------------------[YAI]
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Good Food Promotes Fellowship------------------------------------[FPF]
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People Are Signing up for Next Year Already!---------------------[SNY]
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KFest 2002 Registration Information------------------------------[KFR]
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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[*] [*] [*]
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READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
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""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
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issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
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something like:
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
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[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
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[OPN]-------------------------------
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HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
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From The Editor
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>
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The Desire to Communicate
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From High Above The Rock River, the clearing in the far western sky
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allows the golden sunshine to creep under the cloudy sky to brightly
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illuminate shinny objects to the east. The many cell phone towers call for
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attention. This reminds us that people have an impatient urge to
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communicate... to talk to others that are important to them.
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The many family reunions that take place in the summer remind us that
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talking and visiting with people in person is the ultimate form of
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communication.
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KFest is the annual family reunion of Apple II users... if you have
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ever used an Apple II you are a member of the family. We would like you to
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be present at our family reunion -this- year. See the KFest section of
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this issue of _The Lamp!_ for registration information.
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The Tinkerer's Corner
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Starting with this issue of _The Lamp!_ we have a new feature, The
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Tinkerer's Corner. Some of the projects will be very practical. Others
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will be fun ways of doing things that really don't need to be done. In
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this issue we share the story of an interesting find at one of the local
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thrift stores.
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[EOA]
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ASCII ART BEGINS
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[EOA]
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DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com |
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(A2Central.com) |
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
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[LIP]
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LOG IN PROBLEM
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Since July 1, whenever I log onto Syndicomm.com using my telnet text
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connection, I am asked for my Password _before_ I am asked for my login
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name. Of course, no matter what I enter, I get the response invalid,
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_then_ it asks for my login, followed by my Password and all is well.
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Why is it skipping the login name request at first connection?
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Is anyone else having this problem?
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MT Steve
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(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 14)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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"whoami" or possibly "who am i" is the command to tell you what your unix
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name is. Your isp probably updated their telnet so it now sends your name
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when you do a login. With ssh, you override it with the -l flag, eg:
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ssh a2central.com -l a2central_login_name
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"man telnet" to see if there's a flag for that.
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Kelvin
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(KWS, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 18)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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As Kelvin mentioned, you could try the -l flag (lowercase L):
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telnet -l a2central_login_name syndicomm.com
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Your ISP's version of telnet may also support using the -K flag (uppercase
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K) to disable automatic login:
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telnet -K syndicomm.com
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Later,
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- Aaron
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(A2PROGEEK, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 19)
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>>>>>
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I just checked out my shell telnet using the "man" command. Turns out they
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did change it to make automatic login the default. It also accepts the
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"-K" command. So, I added that to the argument stream in my Spectrum
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script and it now works just like it used to work. Thanks again ! :)
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MT Steve
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(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 21)
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[EOA]
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[PKC]
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PRE-KFest CHAT 2002 IN LIBRARY
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We have a new upload in the a2central.com_archives/Chat_Transcripts
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directory.
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File: PreKFestChat2002.txt
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Size: 44053
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Date: Jun 25
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This is a plain text transcript of the pre-KFest chat on Just 17, 2002.
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(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 7)
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[EOA]
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[GLI]
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GEnie Lamp INDEX SAMPLE UPLOADED
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There is a new file in the publications/genielamp.a2 directory:
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File: LampIndex.txt
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Size: 36241
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Date: Jul 01
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Here is a description from the uploader, copied from his post in Category
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20, Topic 20 "The Lamp":
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I've uploaded a text file to the library (uploads section, so I don't know
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where it will go) that is an attempt at creating an Index to GEnie Lamp.
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The upload is for 1992 and the start of 1993.
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I looking for feedback primarily in terms of whether the format is
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appropriate for an index. I've tried to list any item that has multiple
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ways of searching for the info in more than one entry. For instance, a bug
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in HyperStudio would be listed under Hyperstudio, and Roger Wagner
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Publishing, and possibly some other entry.
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If this is simply too wordy, nobody would ever use it, etc., let me know
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and I'll just use it myself. :-)
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Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
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(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 8)
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[EOA]
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[YRC]
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YOUR REASON FOR CHOOSING TO USE AN Apple II COMPUTER?
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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For those who stated that they are still using their Apple II or IIgs
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regularly, are you choosing to use this computer because it's what you have
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and can afford, out of fierce loyalty, or out a lack of interest in
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learning something different (i.e., Windows or Mac or Linux) - as in "if it
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ain't broke, don't fix it"?
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What is that special something about the Apple II/IIGS that makes it your
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computer-of-choice?
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Steven Weyhrich
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Apple II Historian
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http://apple2history.org
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(SWEYHRICH, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 19)
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>>>>>
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For myself I have a number of other machines outside of my Apple II
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collection including a PIII-667 MHz IBM PC which my family uses for
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Internet/games/etc. The reason why I continue to use Apple II's is because
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even after 23 years since I started with them, they still are fun.
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Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
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"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
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7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
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(MARK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 20)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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I continue to use my Apple IIs because they do everything that I need in a
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computer. I have used many kinds of computers, from main frames to build
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your own. I can use Windows or a Mac and have done so on many occasions,
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on jobs or helping out friends with problems. However, I don't have a need
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for anything that they do that my Apple II doesn't. The Apple II does what
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I need much faster than the Windows or Mac machines, due to lower overhead,
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which more than makes up for the slower processor and bus. In most of my
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uses, the speed limitation is due to the fingers, not the computer. ;)
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I use the Windows machines at the library to access the web. I find the
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web uninteresting and, in the main, useless to me. So, for the occasional
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need, the library works fine and saves me the big bucks that another
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computer would cost.
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And finally, when I want the computer to do something that it doesn't,
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rather than hunting for the software that will do the job and then buying
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that as I would most likely have to do on one of the current machines, I
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just do a little programming and the problem is solved.
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MT Steve
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(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 21)
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I use the Apple II not because I don't have other computers available, but
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simply because it's the right tool for the job.
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There's no way we could produce Juiced.GS on anything else at the rate
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we're doing and the cost we're doing, for instance.
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Ryan
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 22)
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"""""
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This IIgs is a fun machine.
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It has been put together by myself using hardware from many sources. Sean
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Fahey's garage (KFest), thrift stores, garage sales, individuals on the
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web, etc.
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There is a considerable degree of satisfaction listening to the soft
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cackling of the hard drive salvaged from an old Mac while visiting
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Syndicomm Online and Delphi, reading usenet, doing email, and surfing the
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net.
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And it is only fitting that _The Lamp!_, a publication devoted to the
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Apple II computers, should be produced and managed using a real A2.
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Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net> Editor, _The Lamp!_
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published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
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(LYLE, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 23)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Sad to say, although my GS is still set here on my computer desk, it
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doesn't get fired up much anymore. It still runs well, and the HD has been
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humming over there nonstop for many years, I just don't seem to find much
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use for it any more.
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I got my //c in 1984 for christmas, and used it for many years before
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purchasing a used GS from a friend. Spent a lot of time and money on it.
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Well spent I might add.
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There are about a dozen GSs in the garage, along with the original //c and
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some //es. My wife would love it if I found a good home for them. :-)
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I've been thinking about replacing it with the Linux/BE box that I have
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just set up. I still have Sweet 16 running on the BE partition, so I
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wouldn't be losing any functionality, just old faithful herself.
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Anyway, I'll wait until after K Fest before I do anything drastic.
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If this is of any use to you, as always, you have my permission to use any
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of it.
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Dave 'Uncle Duck' Johnson
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(DAVEJ, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 24)
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I still use a IIgs Rom 3 on a daily basis, for most of my finances. I also
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use it for reading messages here on Syndicomm. There are several games that
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also fill it's time. I used it for mail for a while, but finally moved to
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Eudora on my Mac. I tried Web browsing with the GS, but decided I preferred
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more speed and full graphics on the Mac.
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My GS is running at 10MHz, has 8 MB of ram, uses a 17" SVHS monitor and
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reads messages here via a LANceGS and a cable modem.
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Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 19 Jun 02 1:18:38 pm
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cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
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KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest
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On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
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A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com
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(CARLK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 25)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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>> What is that special something about the Apple II/IIGS that makes it
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your computer-of-choice? <<
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For me, it's "Spectrum", "AppleWorks", and "Your Money Matters". I use the
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first to communicate with Syndicomm, and the last 2 for personal finances.I
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have yet to find anything for the Mac that does what these do for the GS.
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Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 19 Jun 02 2:03:23 pm
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cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
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KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest
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On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
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A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com
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(CARLK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 26)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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You know I still have one at work and one at home. I still like to play
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some BBS games from time to time and Proterm has the best emulation around.
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I play chess with a guy on his board.
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I use appleworks. I like the feel of not having to take a monster word
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processor to do a kids job. I have never figured out excel or any other PC
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spreadsheet or database. (Well I do use dbase4 and dbaseV at work, awful
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program.) So if I am creating a database or spreadsheet, admittedly pretty
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rare I do it on my //gs. Now that my internet provider has shut off my
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telnet access (at least to send). I now have to read email on a pc. It
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means I do it less. It is very annoying to have to move that mouse around
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for everything. I much prefer using a keyboard to read my mail.
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I have one //gs set up at work and one set up at home.
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It mostly gets used for BBSing and telnetting and reading a few usergroups.
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I have not figured out how to read usergroups from my pc.
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You are right I hate to bother to learn new programs when the ones I have
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work fine.
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Right now I am not playing games on the apple. I used to do the old
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softdisk crosswords and solitaire games a lot. But now 98% of the time I
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use appleworks 5.1 and proterm 3.1, both installed on hard drives.
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Bruce
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(BBAKER, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 28)
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"""""
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Thanks to all who have been kind enough so far to post their thoughts and
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answers to my question(s)! I really appreciate it.
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Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<
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Apple II Historian
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http://apple2history.org
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(SWEYHRICH, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 27)
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[EOA]
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[HNW]
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HOW DO NODES WORK?
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I've always wondered: how exactly do nodes work? CompuServe and AOL have
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dial-up points throughout the world. What is at the other end of those
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numbers? Is it a deal with the phone company where local phone numbers are
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rerouted to AOL HQ? Or are there physical locations in each city where
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banks of AOL modems are located?
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-Ken
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(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 60)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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As I understand it, there are actually banks of modems in those cities that
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correspond to those numbers, tucked into nondescript rooms in nondescript
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buildings somewhere in the city.
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 61)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Banks of modems, which can be anywhere they can find space, power and
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enough phone lines. From there, it is piped to the service via T1, T3, or
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higher data circuits as needed.
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Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 12 Jul 02 8:51:40 pm
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cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
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KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 11 days till KFest
|
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On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
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A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com
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|
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(CARLK, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 62)
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|
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>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
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These non-descript rooms can exist in many different places. Some are:
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|
|
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* Closet of a local library. In exchange for the space, the library gets
|
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free access
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|
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* Telephone switch center. Companies, such as Sprint, purchase rack space
|
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in a local Bell central office or switch center. Not only is voice
|
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equipment installed, but modem banks can be added as well.
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|
|
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A more expensive option, but one that is still used, phone numbers are
|
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purchased in one area and have the calls automatically forwarded to a
|
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central modem bank somewhere else. The local phone company handles the
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switching involved.
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|
|
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More information can be found in archives of the inet-access mailing list.
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|
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Geoff
|
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(GEOFF, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 63)
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[EOA]
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|
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[IMB]
|
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THE INTERNET USING MARINETTI AND Bernie ][ The Rescue
|
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
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Is it possible to connect to the Internet (web or otherwise) with Marinetti
|
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and Bernie ][ The Rescue? I just installed it, and it is looking for a
|
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connection via the printer or modem port.
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|
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This is with Bernie 2.6 and 3.0.
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|
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Steven Weyhrich
|
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Apple II Historian
|
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http://apple2history.org
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|
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(SWEYHRICH, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 37)
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|
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>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
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Yes. Hook a modem to your Mac's serial port and dial right out. You can't
|
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share your Mac's broadband or other internet connection.
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|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 38)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
|
Yes indeed. You must set the Bernie Communications prefs to Internal Modem
|
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or Modem/Serial Port depending on your Mac, then set the speed to 57,600
|
|
and DTR Emulation to Emulated.
|
|
|
|
Now set Marinetti to use the IIgs Modem Port and enter the correct
|
|
information for your ISP. You can then use any Marinetti aware application
|
|
such as the provided Telnet app, TelnetDA, or Spectrum. Apart from Telnet
|
|
access, Spectrum will let you run the various script sets such as SAM
|
|
(e-mail), SAFE (FTP), SIS (web) and SOAR (offline reader for Syndicomm).
|
|
|
|
SAM & SOAR are commercial script sets and can be obtained from Shareware
|
|
Solutions, the other two you can get from my web site.
|
|
|
|
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 12 Jun 2002 - 41 days till KFest '02
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5
|
|
Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
|
|
http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/
|
|
|
|
(CONDUCTOR, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 39)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
That's the problem. Not only do I have one of those new-fangled iMacs with
|
|
no floppy disk drive, but I have no serial port and am using Ethernet to
|
|
connect to the Net via my broadband connection, with the Airport hub
|
|
moderating connections with three other Macs.
|
|
|
|
So I take it that Bernie can't do anything with the net via AppleTalk or an
|
|
emulated Ethernet card (doesn't anyone have LANceGS done in software
|
|
yet???). Too bad. :-(
|
|
|
|
Steven Weyhrich
|
|
Apple II Historian
|
|
http://apple2history.org
|
|
|
|
(SWEYHRICH, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 40)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> (doesn't anyone have LANceGS done in software yet???). <<
|
|
|
|
We've begged for it, but nothing so far.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 41)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I am afraid that is the case. However your iMac has a modem built in, so
|
|
you could always connect that to your phone line and make Bernie happy...
|
|
|
|
Bernie is also happy to use an ISDN connection. As long as your connection
|
|
method appears in the 'Port' popup, Bernie will use it...
|
|
|
|
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 13 Jun 2002 - 40 days till KFest '02
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5
|
|
Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
|
|
http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/
|
|
|
|
(CONDUCTOR, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 42)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[CWH]
|
|
CASPER, WEB HOSTING FOR THE IIgs?
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Back at KFest '98, didn't I see a brief demo of a program called Ghost or
|
|
Casper - a web-hosting program for the IIgs? Who produced it, and whatever
|
|
became of it?
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 43)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Casper was an HTTP server written by Richard Bennett. It was never
|
|
released.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 44)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
It's available (in source code form only) on the mosp source forge page....
|
|
|
|
http://sourceforge.net/projects/marinetti
|
|
|
|
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/marinetti/
|
|
MOSP/Applications/Casper/
|
|
|
|
Kelvin
|
|
|
|
(KWS, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 35)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[ITA]
|
|
IF/TEXT-ADVENTURE FANS
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Any IF/text-adventure peoples out there? I'm currently having fun playing
|
|
"Wedding" on ye olde IIGS. Only problem is that the (I'm going to foobar
|
|
the name for sure) Big Red Computer interpreter seems to run kinda slow,
|
|
even for a (stock) Transwarped-GS. Anyone know of other compilers or speed
|
|
tricks or anything?
|
|
|
|
~Tarage
|
|
|
|
(TARAGE, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 57)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Sure, I love IF. :)
|
|
|
|
The Big Red interpreter is the only one that was ever finished, to my
|
|
knowledge. There may be a couple of text-based ones though, but I'm not
|
|
sure.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 58)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> Only problem is that the (I'm going to foobar the name for sure) Big Red
|
|
Computer interpreter seems to run kinda slow, even for a (stock)
|
|
Transwarped-GS. Anyone know of other compilers or speed tricks...<<
|
|
|
|
There are a couple other interpreters (and even a story compiler)
|
|
available, but they must run under a shell (gno, orca, maybe prosel).
|
|
|
|
ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/gs.specific/gno/games/
|
|
|
|
has inform (the compiler) and infozip (the interpreter)
|
|
|
|
The location would suggest they're gno specific, but I don't recall
|
|
offhand.
|
|
|
|
I'm fairly sure there's another interpreter that was ported, but infozip
|
|
should be faster and have fewer bugs than the BRCC-one. And, you play from
|
|
a text-shell in 80-column mode, so it's more authentic :)
|
|
|
|
Kelvin
|
|
|
|
(KWS, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 60)
|
|
|
|
Message 60 Thu Jun 20, 2002
|
|
[Kelvin] at 06:38 PDT
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[ICZ]
|
|
INFORM COMPILER TO COMPILE Z-CODE GAMES
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Has anyone ever used the INFORM compiler under the Orca shell to
|
|
successfully compile Z-code games? (INFORM is the language used to write
|
|
such classics as Zork and Planetfall, for the unawares). I'm just asking
|
|
because it keeps dumping out into machine language when it hits a switch()
|
|
statement in a header file. Wondering if anyone has had success...
|
|
|
|
Thanks,
|
|
~Tarage
|
|
|
|
(TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 10)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I didn't know anyone had built INFORM for the ORCA/Shell.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 11)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I think I compiled the sample program with it under gno/me, but I don't
|
|
recall for sure. Check the release notes to see if it does require gnome.
|
|
|
|
Kelvin
|
|
|
|
(KWS, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 12)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Oh yeah! It was done in 1995 but I've forgotten the guy's name off the top
|
|
of my head (I'm at work and don't have access to my A2 files here). Support
|
|
was abandoned at that point, because it only generates .Z5 files, and
|
|
INFORM is now up to version 6.
|
|
|
|
(TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 13)
|
|
|
|
Message 13 Fri Jun 21, 2002
|
|
[tarage] at 13:21 PDT
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Thanks! I will compare these versions to the INFORM compiler for the IIGS
|
|
made available at the IF FTP site
|
|
ftp://ftp.ifarchive.org/if-archive/programming/inform5.5/executables/
|
|
(which is the one I'm attempting to use now -- it has no requirements for
|
|
running under GNO/ME AFAIR)...
|
|
|
|
(TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 14)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[JGS]
|
|
Juiced.GS V7I2
|
|
""""""""""""""
|
|
Juiced.GS V7I2 has been ordered from our printer and copies for US
|
|
subscribers should be mailed tomorrow. Once I receive them, International
|
|
subscribers' copies will go out; hopefully in about a week.
|
|
|
|
Enjoy the inaugural swimsuit issue!
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 291)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
The June 2002 issue should be a well-received issue, I would think.
|
|
|
|
Of course, what I've learned from the first issue of volume 7 is that a
|
|
well-received Juiced.GS issue is mostly utter silence. :) There have been
|
|
a few nice comments in RTC or here in the forum, but I got exactly one (1)
|
|
letter in email or snail mail since that issue, and it pointed out two
|
|
typos :)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 292)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
We're not in this for the money, guys. Bring on the feedback! :)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 293)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Hey! We could have a "Spot Ryan's Boo-boo's Contest". Whoever spots the
|
|
most, gets a free ComputerEyes!
|
|
|
|
Seriously Ryan, you're doing a great job. I place content over
|
|
presentation every time, and you haven't disappointed me in either account.
|
|
B-{)
|
|
|
|
I tremble in fear at a Juiced.GS "swimming suit" edition though... B-{D
|
|
|
|
Kirk
|
|
|
|
(A2.KIRK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 295)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Ryan,
|
|
|
|
You have done a fabulous job. Keep up the good work. As long as you keep
|
|
producing them, I will keep buying them.
|
|
|
|
Here's to Juiced.Gs and the Apple ][, alive and kicking in ][00][.
|
|
|
|
Dain Neater
|
|
Keeper of the Boards.
|
|
A2 Community Syndicomm.com
|
|
|
|
(A2.DAIN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 296)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
We have had at least one copy of V7I2 show up with some pages upside down.
|
|
We have no idea yet what the extent of this problem is, but we will take
|
|
steps to correct the situation as soon as we know if there's more than one
|
|
bad copy out there.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 297)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Mine arrived today. An interesting read in regard to content and
|
|
formatting. Well, I like a challenge once in a while.
|
|
|
|
Yes, I think you need to complain to your printer. I managed to read the
|
|
whole issue without much trouble. But the second side of the 11x17 page
|
|
was put in the printer ass end to. I'm surprised the operator didn't catch
|
|
this.
|
|
|
|
But as to content, it was as good an issue as I've seen. Thanks for all
|
|
the hard work you guys put into this enterprise.
|
|
|
|
Dave
|
|
Uncle Duck
|
|
|
|
(DAVEJ, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 310)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Mine arrived today, and was just fine, all in order. Mine comes from Carol
|
|
Stream, IL. Another very fine issue it is, too.
|
|
|
|
Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 19 Jun 02 3:18:43 pm
|
|
cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
|
|
KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest
|
|
On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
|
|
A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com
|
|
|
|
(CARLK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 308)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Juiced.GS arrived in Illinois today. Another great issue. And the pages
|
|
are all right side up and in order.
|
|
|
|
Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net> Editor, _The Lamp!_
|
|
published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
|
|
|
|
(LYLE, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 310)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
The printer will refund the entire cost of mailing the bad issues, so I
|
|
fully intend to send out new ones to people that have copies with pages
|
|
upside down.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 312)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
My copy arrived today, everything looks fine. Like Carl's copy, it is from
|
|
Carol Stream, IL.
|
|
|
|
I haven't read it all yet but everything I have read is interesting.
|
|
|
|
Thanks Ryan, Sheppy, Ken, Howard, Tony, Max, and anyone else involved.
|
|
|
|
Margaret
|
|
|
|
(MARGARET, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 313)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
The "swimsuit" issue was much better than the hype, fortunately. :) Another
|
|
well-written Juiced.GS.
|
|
|
|
Still, when I first saw the cover, I wondered if you guys had hired Diz to
|
|
do the cover design. It has the GS+ style. :)
|
|
|
|
- Aaron
|
|
|
|
(A2PROGEEK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 314)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
That's probably as goofy a cover as we'll ever do. We've been using more
|
|
photos than Max used to, and I'm wondering if we're doing -too- much of
|
|
that.
|
|
|
|
In any case, thanks, Aaron.
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 316)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Got my copy yesterday... Carol Springs, IL.
|
|
|
|
It's in fine shape, and a wonderful issue too. B-{)
|
|
|
|
Kirk
|
|
|
|
(A2.KIRK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 317)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
We are trying to determine just how broad the scope of the printing problem
|
|
is. So far, subscribers in CA, HI, OR, CO, and AZ have identified
|
|
problems.
|
|
|
|
Please let us know if you have a bad issue, so we can get new ones out to
|
|
everyone (including me!)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
Chief Sysop, A2
|
|
Editor in Chief, Juiced.GS
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 318)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I got my replacement issue yesterday and it is fine.
|
|
|
|
Thanks for all the hard work Ryan. One of the best issues yet.
|
|
|
|
Dave
|
|
|
|
(DAVEJ, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 332)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[TRC]
|
|
Apple Technical Reference, 2nd Edition NOW COMPLETE
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Just a note to let folks know that we now have the pages that were missing
|
|
from the master of the Apple IIc Technical Reference, 2nd Edition.
|
|
|
|
So if you've been holding off placing your order, go for it! ;)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 62)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[RTS]
|
|
EMAIL ADDRESS TO REQUEST A NEW TOOL SET
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
What is the current email address to request a new tool set? Andrew
|
|
Roughan is writing a new tool set and I didn't see any Web pages with this
|
|
information.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 1)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Try a2pro@syndicomm.com. I think that's the one. If it doesn't work, I'll
|
|
do some investigating. The list has been so slow that I've forgotten the
|
|
address. :)
|
|
|
|
(The address goes to a number of people that cooperatively make the
|
|
decisions).
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
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I actually should have checked by old emails. I found an email dated back
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in August 1999 which was sent to a2pro@syndicomm.com which was used to get
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the Hash Toolset accepted. If nothing else, thank you for confirming that
|
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the address is still valid.
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Geoff
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(GEOFF, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 3)
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[EOA]
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[LFN]
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GSOS SUPPORT FOR UPPER/LOWER CASE LETTERS IN ProDOS FILE NAMES
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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How does GSOS provide support for upper and lower case letters in it's
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ProDOS file names? It seems to store the filename itself in all upper case
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but has devised some mechanism to determine which ones should be displayed
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in upper or lower case.
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Any help?
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-- Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
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"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
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7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
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(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 13)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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There's a 16-bit field in which the bits are on to indicate upper case and
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off to indicate lower (or vice versa, I don't remember).
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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|
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 14)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Do you have any idea where this is documented? I can't find it in either
|
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my ProDOS Technical Reference Manual or Beyond Apple ProDOS.
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Any idea why they did it this way rather than just using lowercase ASCII
|
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directly in the filename?
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Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
|
|
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
|
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7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
|
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(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 15)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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>> Do you have any idea where this is documented? I can't find it in
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either my ProDOS Technical Reference Manual or Beyond Apple ProDOS. <<
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There's a technical note about it.
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>> Any idea why they did it this way rather than just using lowercase ASCII
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directly in the filename? <<
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Because adding lowercase support directly into the file names would have
|
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broken compatibility with any older applications that didn't know about it,
|
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and would have broken disk compatibility with older versions of ProDOS and
|
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BASIC.SYSTEM too.
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By using the bitfield, the disk just looks like all upper-case to the older
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software.
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 17)
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>>>>>
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"""""
|
|
I don't have my A2 tech stuff with me, but the ProDOS case bytes are stored
|
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in the directory entry.
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Ahh, enough excuses - excuse me while I go Google....
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OK, I'm back. Here is a quote from GS/OS Tech Note #8 "Filenames With More
|
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Than CAPS and Numerals":
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=================================
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Two previously unused bytes in each file's directory entry are now used to
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indicate the case of a filename. The bytes are at relative locations +$1C
|
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and +$1D in each directory entry, and were previously labeled version and
|
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min_version. Since ProDOS 8 never actually used these bytes for version
|
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checking (except in one case, discussed below), they are now used to store
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lowercase information. (In the Volume header, bytes +$1A and +$1B are used
|
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instead.)
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If version is read as a word value, bit 7 of min_version would be the
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highest bit (bit 15) of the word. If that bit is set, the remaining 15
|
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bits of the word are interpreted as flags that indicate whether the
|
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corresponding character in the filename is uppercase or lowercase, with set
|
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indicating lowercase. For example, the filename Desk.Accs has a value in
|
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this word of $B9C0, or binary 1011 1001 1100 0000. The following
|
|
illustration shows the relationship between the bits and the filename:
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Bits in WORD: 1011100111000000
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Filename: Desk.Accs
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Uppercase or Lowercase: ULLLUULLL
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|
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Note that the period (.) is considered an uppercase character.
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=================================
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Peter peterw@syndicomm.com
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Palm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager
|
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|
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(PETERW, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 19)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I often find that there is so much information spread over so many
|
|
different places that it is very difficult for a newbie to locate what he
|
|
is looking for. I knew that lowercase letters were possible in filenames
|
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since I've seen it 100's of times and it threw me when it wasn't where
|
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I expected it to be. Thank you very much to everybody for their effort.
|
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I appreciate your help!
|
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Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
|
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"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
|
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7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
|
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|
|
(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 21)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Investigating this issue a little further I have discovered that there is
|
|
an exception to the Tech Note. It seems that Appleworks Classic files
|
|
don't use the "version" and "min_version" bytes but use the file's auxtype
|
|
instead in a similar fashion. My assumption is that this is due to the
|
|
fact that Appleworks predates the IIgs by two years.
|
|
|
|
Interesting however... :)
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Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
|
|
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
|
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7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
|
|
|
|
(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 23)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
And as a result, AppleWorks can't see lower case letters in the name of a
|
|
file created by the ProDOS FST, and the ProDOS FST can't see lower case
|
|
letters in the name of a file created by AppleWorks. :) I remember reading
|
|
about all this many years ago, but I don't know where. Probably on GEnie or
|
|
in A2-Central.
|
|
|
|
Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Thu 27 Jun 02 11:05:48 pm
|
|
cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
|
|
KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 26 days till KFest
|
|
On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
|
|
A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com
|
|
|
|
(CARLK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 24)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
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|
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
[JIS]
|
|
JULY ISSUE OF Syndicommotion NOW AVAILABLE
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
The July issue of Syndicommotion (Volume 1, Issue 7) is now available, and
|
|
can be accessed one of three ways:
|
|
|
|
- Selecting menu option #3 from Page 2 (type "m3;2" without the quotes at
|
|
any Syndicomm Online menu prompt);
|
|
|
|
- Point your web browser at
|
|
<http://www.syndicomm.com/syndicommotion/v1n7.html>
|
|
|
|
- Receive it via email. If you're not already subscribed to receive
|
|
Syndicommotion by email, sign up at
|
|
<<http://www.syndicomm.com/syndicommotion>
|
|
|
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-Ken Gagne
|
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writing@syndicomm.com
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 6)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[BEM]
|
|
BLOCKING EMAIL
|
|
""""""""""""""
|
|
We recently discovered that our upstream provider had been blocking email
|
|
from users at btinternet.com due to a substantial spam problem. This was
|
|
causing our members inconvenience, so we asked our provider to change this,
|
|
and they have done so.
|
|
|
|
So, for now, email from btinternet.com works. Our provider does say that
|
|
if the spam problem persists, they'll block it again.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 9)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[OSU]
|
|
SYNDICOMM ONLINE STORE UPDATED
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Our online store has been updated! We now properly support airmail
|
|
overseas, and the store allows you to pay by check or money order.
|
|
|
|
We'll be adding more products to it over the next few days and weeks, such
|
|
as our remaining inventory of GS+ and a few other items that still aren't
|
|
listed.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, A2, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 59)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[TSU]
|
|
TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or to
|
|
sign up!
|
|
|
|
(Logon message)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
[CID]
|
|
CREATING IMAGE OF HARD DRIVE FOR EMULATOR
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
I am trying to make an image of my hard drive from my IIGS for running on
|
|
an emulator (XGS or KeGS32) on my pc. I have GSHK on the gs & I can put
|
|
files (.shk, .bxy) on a Syquest ez135 that I can read on the pc (MacOpener)
|
|
But I can't seem to get Nulib2 or Alladin Expander/Dropstuff to 'make a
|
|
.2mg image.
|
|
|
|
Help!!!!
|
|
|
|
Thanks, Greg
|
|
|
|
(GCHICHESTER, 3539.42, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Stick with KEGS32. It's not merely a personal preference of mine, simply
|
|
one program does near-flawless emulation of a IIgs (and may very well be
|
|
the best IIgs emulator to date, even exceeding Bernie) and the other is the
|
|
exact opposite in every respect.
|
|
|
|
The latest version can be found here:
|
|
http://www.geocities.com/akilgard/kegs32/
|
|
|
|
>> I have GSHK on the gs & I can put files (.shk, .bxy) on a Syquest ez135
|
|
that I can read on the pc (MacOpener) But I can't seem to get Nulib2 or
|
|
Alladin Expander/Dropstuff to 'make a .2mg image. <<
|
|
|
|
Simple solution: Use Ninjaforce's Asimov 2.0 on the IIgs side. Select the
|
|
partition and have it create a 32MB *.2MG image from it (you'll need an HFS
|
|
volume to store it, as ProDOS can't handle files larger than 16MB; it
|
|
sounds like you already have an HFS partition on the SyQuest cart). It's
|
|
very straight forward.
|
|
|
|
That's what I used and now have a copy of my IIgs hardrive for KEGS32 to
|
|
use. I believe you can only mount two partitions at a time at the moment,
|
|
though hopefully this should change in time.
|
|
|
|
Asimov URL: http://www.ninjaforce.com/downloads/Asimov.shk
|
|
|
|
Mitchell Spector
|
|
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca
|
|
|
|
(SPECTOR1, 3539.43, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Thanks, that is a good start. I guess this is my typical 'straight
|
|
forward'..... :)
|
|
|
|
I d/l'd Ninjaforce's Asimov 2.0 (S16), moved & opened on the GS. I boot
|
|
into 6.01 using ProSel16. Running Asimov 2.0 got an error($0010) 'device
|
|
is busy'... OK maybe doesn't like Bredon... duh lets try FINDER... OK now I
|
|
get to selecting source,destination & name it... ERROR ($0043) 'invalid
|
|
ref' this could be fun, but it isn't. I can't make an image.
|
|
|
|
Now to my question.. Does someone know the error code meanings or how to
|
|
resolve/dissolve my stone wall? I have (empty) (2)42,000 block Prodos
|
|
partitions, a 135mb & a 42,000 block HFS partition, 800k floppies. I tried
|
|
to image a 800k floppy,a 12,000 block HD. Both give the same errors... I am
|
|
naming the file test.2mg, test.2img, test (w/o a suffix)..same error..
|
|
|
|
Please help, I'm getting tired... I'm missing something very basic.
|
|
|
|
Greg
|
|
|
|
(GCHICHESTER, 3539.45, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> OK now I get to selecting source,destination & name it....ERROR ($0043)
|
|
'invalid ref' this could be fun, but it isn't. I can't make an image. <<
|
|
|
|
That's a GS/OS error code for "Bad file reference number". When I wrote up
|
|
a review on Asimov, one thing I discovered is the program is very sensitive
|
|
to bad media or corrupted/damaged volumes. I'm not quite sure what that
|
|
error is referring to exactly though, I'd have to look it up to refresh my
|
|
memory.
|
|
|
|
You can't even run a disk validity scan with ProSel-16 (or any other GS/OS
|
|
tool) because it's HFS you're dealing with. Try reformatting the SyQuest
|
|
cart and see if that helps. Assuming that was the problem.
|
|
|
|
If that doesn't work, try using Sheppy's ImageMaker program as an
|
|
alternative. It should handle the same type of job, converting a 32MB
|
|
ProDOS hardisk volume into a *.2MG disk image file:
|
|
http://www.sheppyware.net/products/a2/imagemaker/
|
|
|
|
Mitchell Spector
|
|
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca
|
|
|
|
(SPECTOR1, 3539.46, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
You seem to be stressing 32mb.. Is there a specification to that exact
|
|
size? Do I have to make an empty partition to an exact size first?
|
|
|
|
Can it be the size of my original GS partition? Is it REQUIRED to do this
|
|
image to a Prodos partition?
|
|
|
|
Thanks, Greg
|
|
|
|
(GCHICHESTER, 3539.48, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> You seem to be stressing 32mb... <<
|
|
|
|
Sorry if I confused anyone there. I always make my ProDOS partition the
|
|
largest possible maximum on my IIgs: 32768K. So that's all I've personally
|
|
dealt with mostly.
|
|
|
|
>> Is there a specification to that exact size? <<
|
|
|
|
Not at all. KEGS (and I would assume XGS) allow pretty much arbitrary sized
|
|
hardisk images. You can have a 1MB, 10MB, 13MB, etc *.2MG image--though NOT
|
|
larger than 32MB obviously or it won't be usable as a ProDOS device.
|
|
|
|
>> Do I have to make an empty partition to an exact size first? <<
|
|
|
|
Nope, if your boot partition is only 15MB, then Asimov will see it and
|
|
properly convert it to a *.2MG image file (it should actually be just that
|
|
size, a 15MB data file).
|
|
|
|
>> Can it be the size of my original GS partition? <<
|
|
|
|
Yep, see above.
|
|
|
|
>> Is it REQUIRED to do this image to a Prodos partition? <<
|
|
|
|
I'm not sure I understand the question...
|
|
|
|
Mitchell Spector
|
|
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca
|
|
|
|
(SPECTOR1, 3539.50, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
as opposed to hfs format..
|
|
|
|
academic now. As you suggested I used Sheppyware's program. EXACTLY as
|
|
Asimovs on my GS & it made my HD a .2mg file on my hfs Syquest w/o
|
|
blinking.....
|
|
|
|
I now can view my GS booting into prosel8 & can launch prosel16 ON MY pc
|
|
!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
Any ideas why I got (GS) errors w/ Asimov?
|
|
Thanks, Greg
|
|
|
|
(GCHICHESTER, 3539.52, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> As you suggested I used Sheppyware's program. EXACTLY as Asimovs on my
|
|
GS & it made my HD a .2mg file on my hfs Syquest w/o blinking..... I now
|
|
can view my GS booting into prosel8 & can launch prosel16 ON MY pc ! <<
|
|
|
|
Glad it worked!
|
|
|
|
>> Any ideas why I got (GS) errors w/ Asimov? <<
|
|
|
|
I'm not sure if I would call it buggy, but it definitely IS over sensitive
|
|
to software volume errors and corruption. I'm betting there is some kind of
|
|
error on that HFS volume.
|
|
|
|
I had similar problems reading or writing to a certain volume with Asimov
|
|
while ImageMaker, as you say, worked without blinking. I later ran a
|
|
disk-scan on that particular volume with ProSel-16 and discovered errors on
|
|
the drive. After letting ProSel repair the drive Asimov then worked fine.
|
|
You can take that as either a good thing or a bad thing. :)
|
|
|
|
I think it's actually a good thing, though a future version of Asimov
|
|
_should_ really bring up a message reporting the error and asking if you
|
|
want to abort or ignore and continue.
|
|
|
|
There's reviews of both Asimov and DiskMaker (ImageMaker's companion
|
|
program) over at A2Central.
|
|
|
|
http://www.a2central.com/reviews/asimov/index.html
|
|
http://www.a2central.com/reviews/diskmaker/index.html
|
|
|
|
Mitchell Spector
|
|
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca
|
|
|
|
(SPECTOR1, 3539.54, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> That's a GS/OS error code for "Bad file reference number". When I wrote
|
|
up a review on Asimov, one thing I discovered is the program is very
|
|
sensitive to bad media or corrupted/damaged volumes. I'm not quite sure
|
|
what that error is referring to exactly though, I'd have to look it up to
|
|
refresh my memory. <<
|
|
|
|
To nitpick it sounds like a ProDOS error code.
|
|
|
|
A program like Asimov would have three parts.
|
|
|
|
1) Read a volume block by block.
|
|
2) Process that data in this case format it to .2mg format.
|
|
3) Write the data.
|
|
|
|
Part 1 would likely be ProDOS READ_BLOCK call which doesn't use file
|
|
reference numbers.
|
|
|
|
Part 2 probably just straight memory manipulation and no ProDOS call
|
|
involved.
|
|
|
|
Part 3 would need to use calls like OPEN (which assigns the reference
|
|
number), READ, WRITE, CLOSE which all require that reference number to
|
|
function. Here is where the error is likely coming from.
|
|
|
|
So it looks like that under certain circumstances that a call to a READ,
|
|
WRITE or CLOSE is happening either before the OPEN is executed or the
|
|
reference number assigned by the OPEN is being corrupted. This could be due
|
|
to either a bug in Asimov or another process (bad CDA, NDA?) chewing up
|
|
Asimov's memory space.
|
|
|
|
Mark Percival
|
|
Syndicomm.com Apple II Forum RTC Host
|
|
"Midweek Madness" every Wednesday night!
|
|
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Pacific Time
|
|
|
|
(PERCIM, 3539.55, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
[TTC]-------------------------------
|
|
THE TINKERER'S CORNER |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
Persistence Pays Off
|
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
It was my weekly visit to the local Salvation Army "As Is" store...
|
|
all sales are final here... no returns of merchandise that doesn't work.
|
|
|
|
It was a sorry looking sight. On the bench in the back corner of the
|
|
store, in the computer section, lay a IIgs. Covered with fly specks and
|
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dust. Hmm... a IIgs monitor, an 85MB SCSI drive, a ImageWriter II... all
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with matching fly specks and dust... this must be a complete system! IIgs
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owner's manual, Appleworks GS manual, "Care and Feeding the Q Drive"...
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this was getting interesting.
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Taking the cover off the IIgs revealed an Apple HS SCSI card and a
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short RAM card with 4 memory chips and sockets for 4 more.
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CPU, monitor and SCSI drive at $5 each... less 10% senior discount...
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$12.50 total. I opted not to buy the printer.
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After a good cleanup with the vac and a damp rag the equipment was
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looking good. Then the moment of truth... ROM 1... clock reads right date,
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is one hour slow... the ram card has 4MB plus 4 empty sockets. Passes self
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test... RAM passes BitBanger test.
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Boots up to System 6... then the *loud* sound reminding one of the
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trumpet of an angry elephant... then the black screen with a graphic,
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reading "Is Anyone There" moving up and down endlessly... the former owner
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was a joker. :)
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Moved the system software to a temp folder and installed System 6.01.
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Exploration of the Hard Drive revealed Appleworks GS and lots of games.
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Not bad for a spare IIgs system. :)
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[EOA]
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR |
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[NLE]
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NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH
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The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month.
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[EOA]
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[LTE]
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AN INVITATION
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the
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Apple II computers.
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Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>
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The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.
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The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers
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unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.
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[EOA]
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[KFT]------------------------------
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KFest 2002 |
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-----------------------------------
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[YAI]
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YOU ARE INVITED
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OH MY LORD, WE'RE GOING TO THE DANCE!
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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By: Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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A few years ago, when the University of Hawai'i men's basketball team
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earned its way into the National Collegiate Athletic Association
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championship tournament--known alternatively as "March Madness" and "The
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Big Dance"--with an improbable run through an impossible field of Western
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Athletic Conference opponents, legend has it one of the homegrown players
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on the Hawai'i roster screamed at the top of his lungs, "Oh my Lord, we're
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going to the dance!"
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Who wouldn't be excited? March Madness is a gathering of the best of
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college athletics in this country, and while some may leave disappointed,
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no one regrets going, although many regret squandering the chance to go.
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The Apple II Community has its own Big Dance--it's called KansasFest.
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It is indeed a gathering of the best the Apple II world has to offer, but
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unlike college basketball's Big Dance, no one leaves disappointed, unless
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it's because they couldn't do everything they wanted to, and like college
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basketball's Big Dance, many regret squandering their chance to go.
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Unlike March Madness, the field isn't limited to those who are invited
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only--or rather, everyone's invited.
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Don't live with regrets--go to the dance.
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--
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Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- Chief Sysop, Palm OS on Syndicomm.com
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Publisher, The Lamp! -- Editor, A2 News and Notes -- Staff, Juiced.GS
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Apple II Forever! -- Speak softly and wear loud shorts
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[EOA]
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[FPF]
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GOOD FOOD PROMOTES FELLOWSHIP
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Subject: (kfest) Tuesday dinner
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Once again, I would like to suggest a trip to Stephenson's Apple Orchard
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for dinner on Tuesday.
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I thought they did an excellent job of dealing with the large group and
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individual checks. And besides, it's still my favorite KC restaurant.
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Cindy
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(Cindy Adams, KFest Mailing List)
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[EOA]
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[SNY]
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PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP FOR NEXT YEAR ALREADY!
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Subject: (kfest) KFest 2003
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From the KFest marketing department ----
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Now is the time for you to consider KFest 2003. Some folks are so excited,
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they've already signed up for next year's wondrous event. Yep! Their
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registration is paid and they are ready and waiting in line. We promised
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anonymity, so we're not at liberty to divulge the names of those who are
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already first in line for next year, but it proves that it's never too
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early to sign up for KFest! If you hurry, you can be next. If you hurry
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real fast, you could even be second, third or fourth in line! :)
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Before you ask, we don't know the dates yet.
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Cindy
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(Cindy Adams, KFest Mailing List)
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[EOA]
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[KFR]
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K-FEST 2002 REGISTRATION INFORMATION
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KFEST 2002 REGISTRATION:
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+++ Please note: You MUST send the NEW registration form below (via postal
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mail or fax) when you register.
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KFest 2002 Registration Info... meet old A2 friends... meet new friends...
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When: July 23-28, 2002
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Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri
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The most important Apple II event of the year, KFest 2002, is on our
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calendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a place on
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your calendar, too.
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Check these rates, which include your room from Tuesday and meals from
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Wednesday evening (dinner) on July 24, through Sunday morning (breakfast)
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on July 28. (Saturday evening dinner not included. That's KFesters' Night
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Out On The Town!)
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PLEASE NOTE: There is no "extra day" fee this year. Because of the
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popularity, we've arranged to make Tuesday an official part of KFest!
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KFest 2002 Registration Form
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View and print this document using 9-point Monaco or Courier font (the
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default of most monospaced font applications such as ProTERM & Spectrum).
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Registering for KFest 2002:
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NOTE: - The information requested in the KFest Registration Form below
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must be sent even though the information is called in.
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- If a member of the family accompanies you to KFest, please send
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a separate registration form for each person.
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<> Fax or email KFest Registration Form using a credit card number:
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- Complete the form below and send the KFest Registration Form;
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(EMAIL IS NOT SECURE).
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<> By postal mail: Credit card, check, Purchase Order or money order:
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- Print and fill out the KFest Registration Form.
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- Send the form with the payment to:
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InTrec Software, Inc. <kfest@intrec.com>
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Attn: KFest Registration Voc: 602/992-1345
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3035 E Topaz Cir Fax: 602/992-0232
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Phoenix, Az 85028-4423
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Discover/Novus, Visa, Mastercard or AmEx accepted. Checks & money orders
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must be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a US
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bank.
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---[ Begin Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---
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=>___ =>___
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First Name Last Name
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=>___
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Organization (if applicable to KFest)
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=>___
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Shipping Address
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=>___
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City
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=>___
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State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code
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=>___ =>___
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Day Phone Eve Phone
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=>___
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Internet Mail Address
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=>___ =>___
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Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discover/Novus-AmEx) Expiration Date
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=>___
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Name on Card (please print clearly)
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=>___
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Authorized Signature (If printed and mailed, or faxed.)
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If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure,
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consider mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice to give the card
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number.
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Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds.
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Registration Cost Check each Applicable Line
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+++ Early Bird rates (Register BEFORE May 15) +++
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7 [ ] Double Room before 5/15 .............................. 265.00
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8 [ ] Single Room before 5/15 .............................. 330.00
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9 [ ] Spouse or child before 5/15 .......................... 200.00
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10 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) before 5/15 ...... 200.00
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+++ Rates after the Early Bird Special (Register AFTER May 15) +++
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Rates (after May 15 and at the door):
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11 [ ] Double Room ......................................... 335.00
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12 [ ] Single Room ......................................... 385.00
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13 [ ] Spouse or child ..................................... 285.00
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14 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) after 5/15....... 285.00
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T-Shirts must be ordered in advance
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15 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Small ............................... 15.00
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16 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Medium .............................. 15.00
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17 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Large ............................... 15.00
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18 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 1X-Large ............................ 15.00
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19 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 2X-Large ............................ 15.00
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20 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 3X-Large ............................ 16.00
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21 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 4X-Large ............................ 17.00
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22 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 5X-Large ............................ 18.00
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23 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 6X-Large ............................ 19.00
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24 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 7X-Large ............................ 20.00
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25 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 8X-Large ............................ 21.00
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26 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 9X-Large ............................ 22.00
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May we send your registration confirmation via e-mail? [ ]Yes [ ]No
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[ ] As a PDF (Acrobat Reader) file (preferred)
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[ ] As a TEXT file mailed to the listed address
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Roommate preference: =>___
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Prefer smoking/non-smoking roommate: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke
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Today's Date: _=>___ / /
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1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... =>__
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2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... =>__
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3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ................ =>__
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4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... =>__
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5- Arizona residents only add 8.1% tax: .............. =>__
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6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. =>__
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---[ End Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---
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Check-in will be from 1-4 pm on Tuesday. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm
|
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on Sunday.
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Current plans call for formal KFest 2002 sessions to begin with dinner in
|
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the Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed
|
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by the traditional opening event, the Keynote Address. We've got some great
|
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plans again for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!
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Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and
|
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hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair
|
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slated for Saturday afternoon.
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Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner
|
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through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.
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On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine
|
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restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of KFesters at a local
|
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favorite selected by the Roastee.
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All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal
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guardian.
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***
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KFest 2002 is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers of
|
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ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh.
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If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can
|
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find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:
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kfest-help@kfest.org
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|
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... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page: <http://www.kfest.org>
|
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|
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If you're thinking about attending KFest, you'll enjoy the KFest Internet
|
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e-mail chat:
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|
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To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email to:
|
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<mailto: majordomo@kfest.org>.
|
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Place the following text in the BODY of the message:
|
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subscribe kfest
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You will receive a confirmation e-mail. To be signed up for the list, you
|
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will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate, and
|
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then you will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.
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Sponsored by:
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InTrec Software, Inc.
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3035 E Topaz Circle
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Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423
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Voc:602/992-1345
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Fax:602/992-0232
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<kfest@intrec.com>
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(KFESTSTEVE [Gouda], Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 24, Syndicomm A2)
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[EOA]
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[INN]------------------------------
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EXTRA INNINGS |
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-----------------------------------
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About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month on
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""""""""""""""" the WEB at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
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This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
|
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using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever!
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* The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2002 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All
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rights reserved.
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* To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
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thelamp@sheppyware.net
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* All issues of The Lamp! are available at The Lamp! Home Page,
|
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http://lamp.a2central.com/
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not
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necessarily represent the opinions of A2Central.com, Delphi Online
|
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Services, Syndicomm, Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson. Forum messages are
|
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reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission
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from the individual authors. A2Central.com, Delphi Online Services,
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Syndicomm, Ryan M. Suenaga, and Lyle Syverson do not guarantee the accuracy
|
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or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to
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edit all letters and copy.
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Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the
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expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user
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groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may
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write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.
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