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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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THE BEST OF THE A2 BULLETIN BOARD ON Syndicomm Online
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AND THE BEST OF THE DELPHI A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
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"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 4, No. 12
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Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
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Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
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Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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December 15, 2001
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HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]
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Milestones
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The Little Seed That Could
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A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS
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Gotta Haves for the IIgs-----------------------------------------[GHG]
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Temperamental IIgs-----------------------------------------------[TGS]
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Cleaning the Contacts on a IIgs----------------------------------[CTC]
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Unannounced, Secret Contest--------------------------------------[USC]
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Another Winner---------------------------------------------------[AWR]
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Manual for Original Apple II SCSI Card---------------------------[MSC]
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SOAR 1.0b7 Available, v1.0b8 Available Soon----------------------[SUA]
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Most Comprehensive Set of Apple II Files-------------------------[CAF]
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Registering a Domain Name----------------------------------------[RDN]
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What is DNS Serving?---------------------------------------------[WDS]
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The MOSP---------------------------------------------------------[TMP]
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Dealing With Spam in Email---------------------------------------[DWS]
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A2PIX Updated to v3.0b9------------------------------------------[APU]
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Apple II Software for GIF Files----------------------------------[ASG]
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Numbers of ROM 01 vs ROM 3 GSs Produced--------------------------[NGP]
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AppleDesign ADB keyboard work on an Apple IIGS?------------------[ADK]
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Super Serial Card vs Super Serial Card II------------------------[SSC]
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Hard Drive Preferences-------------------------------------------[HDP]
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Interested in a MPW IIgs Bundle CD-ROM?--------------------------[MBC]
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LANceGS Glitch Found---------------------------------------------[LGF]
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Apple II Documentation for Newbies-------------------------------[ADN]
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What Documentation is Needed?------------------------------------[WDN]
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The Welcome Wagon Project----------------------------------------[WWP]
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Were IN/OUT Vectors Fixed in GS/OS?------------------------------[IOV]
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Network Time Protocol--------------------------------------------[NTP]
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Recommended Book?------------------------------------------------[RBK]
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PDF File Type - More Discussion----------------------------------[PDF]
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ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM
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Free Game for Joining Syndicomm Online---------------------------[FGJ]
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Been a Good Year For Syndicomm Online----------------------------[BGY]
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Adding Forums at a Good Clip-------------------------------------[AFC]
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The Prolific Quill community invites you to participate----------[TPQ]
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Syndicomm Online opened its doors one year ago,------------------[SOO]
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DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS
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Strange Memory Card----------------------------------------------[SMC]
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DELPHI A2PRO DISTILLATIONS
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Marinetti Open Source Project------------------------------------[MOS]
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The Apple IIgs Debugger------------------------------------------[AGD]
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CHANGES AT DELPHI
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Delphi Merging With eHow and Idea Exchange-----------------------[DMG]
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Delphi, the Latest Score-----------------------------------------[DLS]
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]
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An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]
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KFEST 2002
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Plan Ahead for K-Fest 2002---------------------------------------[PAK]
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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[*] [*] [*]
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READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
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""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
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issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
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something like:
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
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[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
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[OPN]-------------------------------
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HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
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From The Editor
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>
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Milestones
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The view from High Above The Rock River this day in mid December is
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unusual, but beautiful. Unseasonably warm weather, with abundant rain
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rather than snow, has resulted in the ground being carpeted in a rich green
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color.
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We have a clear view of the "mile markers" along the sides of the
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highway in the distance... a reminder of the milestones of many years ago.
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Syndicomm Online reached a milestone this month. The service went
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online December 8, 2000 with an open beta test period. The growth of
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service and the evolution of the software to provide this service has been
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very impressive.
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Other milestones were reached this month. This is the forty eighth
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issue of The Lamp!... a full four years of publication. I have served as
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editor for twenty four months... which means I have tied Ryan in length of
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service as editor of The Lamp!
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The Little Seed That Could
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Early this past Spring, there appeared in a crack in the sidewalk near
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a flower bed nearby, the sprout of a viola. A seed from the previous year
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had fallen into the crack and sprouted. This plant, small in stature, was
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soon displaying brilliant yellow blooms... radiating a beautiful greeting
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to all who passed.
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The gardener has removed all the plants from the flower bed so as to
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clean it up for the following season... but overlooked the little viola.
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The unusually warm, moist season has favored this tiny plant... it
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continues to bloom to this day.
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So if you think you have it tough and have no time to help others who
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have an interest in Apple II computers, consider the tiny viola growing in
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that crack in the sidewalk.
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You might consider helping with the Apple II Documentation Project or
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the Welcome Wagon Project. (For more information see Distillations from
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Syndicomm Online in this issue.)
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You might consider a presentation at K-Fest 2002. (See the K-Fest
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section in this issue for dates.)
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[EOA]
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ASCII ART BEGINS
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ASCII ART ENDS
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[EOA]
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DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com |
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(A2Central.com) |
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
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[GHG]
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GOTTA HAVES FOR THE IIgs
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I am currently reinstalling my GS and was wondering (so I don't miss
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something) what are must haves on any GS system? From patches, to sound
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tools, to games, telecom, text editors....whatever you can think of. CDAs,
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NDAs..whatever:)
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Thanks for your help,
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Dain
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Keeper of the A2 Boards.
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A2 on Syndicomm.com.
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 15)
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hehe, I'll be doing that before too long too, since my HD was trashed while
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in storage. It seems that the answer to that would make a great chapter in
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the A2 Documentation project.
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The things I wouldn't/couldn't do without?
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PROSel, GShrinkit, ShowMe NDA, Hermes/Shadowrite,
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ProTERM A2 and/or Spectrum
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Things I really like?
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HFS patch, Sheppy's boot thing I forgot the name of, Appleworks Classic,
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Appleworks GS, Microsoft Word IIGS -(... only kidding)-, Platinum Paint,
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Beagle Draw, Quick Clic Calc, Kangaroo, Wolfenstein 3D
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I don't know much about patches, but what would be really neat would be a
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disk with a set of the essential patches that are known to be compatible
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with each other. Of course, there would be copyright problems with
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distributing such a disk, but just a list of said patches would be
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invaluable. One could assemble their own disk then.
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(TCOMPTER, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 16)
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Looking through the list on mine the following stand out:
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PIFs: GUPP, Quick Launch, II Not Disturb, Initmaster, Desktop Doctor,
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More Info
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NDAs: Balloon, Hermes, Show Me, Megabox, Sound It, Sonobox,
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Desktop Alarm, FreeK, Telnet NDA, Yahtzee NDA
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CDAs: Screen Saver, Zippy
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CDVs: Hierarhic, Pointless
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Of course, I'm far from the most experienced here, buy my GS runs pretty
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well these days :)
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Kim Howe
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Newton Forum Host
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(KIMHOWE, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 18)
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I seem to recall there being a GUPP patch. I need to look around for that.
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I know it patched up a few things for you.
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Dain Neater
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BB Manager
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 17)
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[EOA]
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[TGS]
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TEMPERAMENTAL IIgs
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This tale is a little strange . It started when my GS would just out of
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the blue freeze. By that I mean that nothing would work, not the mouse,
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not the keyboard (except usually for the three finger reset). This never
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seemed to happen when the computer was in use, but when it was just
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sitting, usually with the monitor off.
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This last time I had to turn the computer off, and when I turned it back on
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I got a message about my Ram Disk was too big. I do not have a ram disk.
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Turning it off and back on usually got me the same error message, as did
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the warm boot, but occasionally I would get a 308 error (or maybe -308?)
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I took out the ram card (just purchased about a month ago) but there was no
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difference. I then removed the ethernet card, the RamFast card, and
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finally the ZipGS card (putting back the original cpu chip). At this point,
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with all of these cards out but with the ram card in, it almost booted from
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a floppy. Almost, but not quite.
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I put everything back in and was getting it ready to take to my local Apple
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store tomorrow. I turned it on and I am writing this message on it. :)
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Now, I'm sure that somebody will say that the contacts on one of the cards
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was corroded or that one of the cards was not completely in the slot, but I
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had taken each card out separately and re-seated it previously in my
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trials.
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So, I would appreciate any guesses as to how long I will be able to keep
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this machine running, and any guesses as to which of the four cards was the
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most likely villain.
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David R. Pierce
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Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b7
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(DAVIDP, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 19)
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No clue here. I am one of those people who have had surprisingly good luck
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with my IIgs. About the only thing that I have had gone bad, is my Hard
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Disk that was on a focus drive. I just swapped in a new one and it works
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good as new. I also have never had many problems other than freezes when
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trying to push a TranswarpGS.
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Dain Neater
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 20)
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Although you have taken out all the cards and cleaned their contacts, have
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you also taken out the power supply connector and cleaned its contacts?
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I find that needs to be done about every six months, or the voltages drop
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to a point where things start to fail. If you see the screen flicker at all
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during floppy access, then it is a sure sign that the power connector needs
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to be cleaned.
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You could also check that all the removable chips, and SCSI connectors,
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have clean contacts as well...
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 8 Dec 2001 - 227 days till KFest '02
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5
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Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
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http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/
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(CONDUCTOR, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 21)
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[EOA]
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[CTC]
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CLEANING THE CONTACTS ON A IIgs
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I have never cleaned the contacts on this ROM 3 that I have, although
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I really haven't had it that long. It hasn't been that unreliable for me
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either. I am sure that it is different for everybody though.
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Can cleaning these be dangerous in any way?
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Thanks,
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Dain Neater
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(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 23)
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Yes, if you leave the power on you can do serious damage to the GS. :)
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Seriously, the best way to clean contacts is to pull and reseat the cards
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or chips a couple of times. Same goes with the power connector. For more
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serious dirt on card edge connectors, wipe with a lint free cloth with
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alcohol.
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Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 8 Dec 01 4:00:38 pm
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cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b7
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KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 227 days till KFest
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On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard.
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A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com
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(CARLK, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 24)
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"""""
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I had a GS that would do exactly the same thing (as best I can recall from
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about 8 years ago :). I tried what you tried, and it worked, but I couldn't
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figure out why. So the next time it did it, I started pulling out cards
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again.
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Eventually, I determined that if I stripped EVERY CARD out of the computer,
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and hooking up NOTHING but the monitor and keyboard, and entered the
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control panel by holding down the Open Apple key at power up and then
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chose "set standards and 50 hz" (not 60), exited the control panel and shut
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down, that I could then hook everything up, go back into the control panel
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and "set standards and 60hz" and it would work fine.
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Now that is nothing but voodo. There is no reason why that should work.
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None.
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But I've seen it work on a grand total of 2.5 machines. (2 for sure, and
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one more I think, so I'll count that as .5 :)
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If you wind up taking it apart again, give that a try, just for grins.
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Gary R. Utter
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(HINDMOST, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 25)
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[EOA]
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[USC]
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UNANNOUNCED, SECRET CONTEST
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Unannounced to the general public, A2 on Syndicomm.com was running a secret
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contest during the month of October.
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We looked at all the posts to A2 and chose one winner, who would receive a
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$10 credit toward their Syndicomm.com account bill.
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The winner this month is none other than our own KWS, Kelvin Sherlock!
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Keep watching A2 as we hold more secret contests every month.
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 1, Msg 14)
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[EOA]
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[AWR]
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ANOTHER WINNER
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Salutations!
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As RTC Manager, I was forced by Ryan to give away a $10 credit to some
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deserving chatmeister.
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It was tough narrowing down the selection though. After reviewing
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megabytes of logs, studying the AFK ratios, measuring verbosity and wit,
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and finally general charm, I made my decision.
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Then Ryan said I couldn't accept it myself. *sigh*
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So instead, it will go to the second most qualified Real Time Chatter, your
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friend and mine...
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Carl Knoblock
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Congratulations!
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Oh.. And Carl... If @Home bites the dust tonight... Never mind. B-{)
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Kirk
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RTC Manager
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(A2.KIRK, Cat 2, Top 35, Msg 19)
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[EOA]
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[MSC]
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MANUAL FOR ORIGINAL Apple II SCSI CARD
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Wanted: Printed manual that shipped with the original Apple II SCSI card.
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Thank you,
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Barry Rees
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brees@syndicomm.com
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(BREES, Cat 3, Top 32, Msg 1)
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>>>>>
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If you just need technical info as opposed to the actual manual, you may
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want to check <http://kbase.info.apple.com/> Articles 2075, 2097, 1938,
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and 6781 in particular have all the info you'd want on the SCSI card.
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Ryan
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Chief Sysop and Head Turkey
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(A2.RYAN, Cat 3, Top 32, Msg 5)
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[EOA]
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[SUA]
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SOAR 1.0b7 AVAILABLE, v1.0b8 AVAILABLE SOON
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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I have posted a SOAR 1.0b7 update on my web site
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<www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk>. If you have problems with that URL, try
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<www.btinternet.com/~ewannop> instead.
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This release fixes recent problems with reading some message files where
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new Topics are being announced. You will also find that your message runs
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are very much faster, as Syndicomm now supports faster access for OLRs at
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Forum menus.
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Note that Syndicomm will also now abort login if you are using a version of
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SOAR earlier than 1.0b5. From version 1.0b7 onwards, SOAR will warn you at
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login if a newer version of SOAR is available than the one you are using.
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Please also note that a temporary bug on Syndicomm causes spaces in Topic
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and Category data to be replaced with tabs. This corrupts the data files
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that SOAR collects when it rebuilds the Topic files, and makes them
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unusable by the SOAR script set. SOAR ships with correct data for the A2
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and Mac Forums, and if you have already got working database files for
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other Forums, continue to use those files. For the moment it is unwise to
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reset the database files till this bug has been fixed.
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 16 Nov 2001 - 249 days till KFest '02
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5
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Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
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http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/
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(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 229)
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>>>>>
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"""""
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Fri Dec 14, 2001:
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A small change to the Forum prompts will be made in the next 24 hours. This
|
|
change is related to the harmonisation of the Text and the Web side of
|
|
Syndicomm.
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|
|
|
As a result, an update to SOAR will be necessary to handle the changed
|
|
prompts. As soon as the change has been made, and my tests prove all is
|
|
well, a new version of SOAR (1.0b8) will be available from my web site.
|
|
|
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After the change, SOAR 1.0b7 will either announce at logon that an update
|
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is available, or that it is no longer usable and you should update.
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|
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 14 Dec 2001 - 221 days till KFest '02
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5
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Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
|
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http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/
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(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 234)
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[EOA]
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|
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[CAF]
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MOST COMPREHENSIVE SET OF Apple II FILES
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
BTW, if you didn't know it, you all have access to the most comprehensive
|
|
set of Apple II files on the Internet:
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|
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ftp://ftp.syndicomm.com
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|
|
Ryan
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|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 2, Msg 12)
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[EOA]
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|
|
|
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|
[RDN]
|
|
REGISTERING A DOMAIN NAME
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|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Hello,
|
|
|
|
I'm thinking of registering a domain name. Last time I did so, I went
|
|
through networksolutions.com and paid $35/year. Does anyone recommend
|
|
another provider of domain names to use, maybe at a cheaper rate? When
|
|
registering, what features or services should I look for that are separate
|
|
from those offered by the hosting company?
|
|
|
|
-Ken
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|
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|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 39)
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|
|
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>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I haven't registered anything with anyone aside from kfest.org with Network
|
|
Solutions.
|
|
|
|
However, as usual, to find all computer related things cheap, check
|
|
dealmac.com. It lists godaddy.com offering .net, .org, and .com
|
|
registrations for $8.95 a year. . .
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 40)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
You'd be hard pressed to find a more expensive registrar, or one with worse
|
|
customer service than network solutions.
|
|
|
|
You should probably look for a registrar that lets you update your DNS
|
|
server, contact info, etc instantly via a nice web page. Also, if they
|
|
provide free DNS serving, that might be useful.
|
|
|
|
(KWS, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 41)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
A domain I registered with Network Solutions two years ago is up for
|
|
renewal. Can I renew it with another company, or am I "locked" into NS?
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 45)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Register.com is a good deal and while not $9.95/year, you get what you pay
|
|
for. ;-)
|
|
|
|
Register.com will let you do your own DNS or do it for you, included in
|
|
their price. Register.com will transfer your domain from NS automagically
|
|
by just renewing with them instead.
|
|
|
|
We 'renewed' pacificcoastflyers.org with NS and a month after it was due it
|
|
still showed as not being paid but the check was negotiated with the
|
|
invoice number written on it even being circled by one of their gnomes and
|
|
the domain was not credited. I called them on it and they said "did you put
|
|
the right invoice in the envelope" (yes, it was the right one and the same
|
|
number written on the check that one of your people circled). "because
|
|
perhaps you put the wrong invoice in the envelope and it got credited to
|
|
another domain." ... WORTHLESS idiots.
|
|
|
|
I am not alone with this, as each domain has come due that I have had with
|
|
NS I have renewed at register.com instead and it takes care of it for you.
|
|
|
|
You can transfer any domain simply by paying a year registration right
|
|
then. All on the site. Simple.
|
|
|
|
Tony
|
|
|
|
(A2.TONYD, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 46)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I like register.com. They cost the same as NSI (so not the cheapest in the
|
|
world), but they're reliable, easy to deal with, and they have nice online
|
|
domain management tools.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 47)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I use NetworkSolutions for my domain name. I have never experienced any
|
|
problems and prefer them over others.
|
|
|
|
* They are very conscientious of name harvesting and people stealing names
|
|
and have taken actions to limit that kind of abuse
|
|
|
|
* Lots of payment options: snail mail check, snail mail credit card, online
|
|
credit card, phone credit card to person, phone credit card in an automated
|
|
system (which I prefer)
|
|
|
|
* $35/year is still cheap
|
|
|
|
* Been in business since 1995
|
|
|
|
* Doesn't track requests through the "whois" server
|
|
|
|
* I feel safe having my name with them.
|
|
|
|
* They won't go out of business any time soon so there is no concern having
|
|
to pay an additional annual charge within a year
|
|
|
|
* They are an U.S. company (do you want your personal info going to a
|
|
foreign company?)
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 49)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
For many of us, the USA *is* a foreign country! ;-)
|
|
|
|
Peter peterw@syndicomm.com
|
|
|
|
Palm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager
|
|
|
|
(PETERW, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 50)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[WDS]
|
|
WHAT IS DNS SERVING?
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
What exactly is DNS serving?
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 42)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
DNS servers are used to translate the human readable name that you register
|
|
to an actual IP address (as well as other stuff like mail exchanging) If
|
|
you're a big site, you probably have your own DNS server. If you're using
|
|
virtual hosting, the virtual hosting company will tell you to use their DNS
|
|
server. If you're hosting your site from your own computer (and don't want
|
|
to deal with DNS serving yourself), you might want to use your registrar's
|
|
DNS.
|
|
|
|
(KWS, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 48)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[TMP]
|
|
THE MOSP
|
|
""""""""
|
|
Just curious about Marinetti and the M.arinetti O.pen S.ource
|
|
P.roject(MOSP). Has there been any word on it?
|
|
|
|
Dain Neater
|
|
A2 Bulletin Board Manager
|
|
Syndicomm
|
|
|
|
(A2.DAIN, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 29)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[DWS]
|
|
DEALING WITH SPAM IN EMAIL
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
There's an email address I have had for abt seven years but no longer use.
|
|
It gets about 100 spam messages a month. My new address (a year or two
|
|
old) is starting to get at least one or two a day now. What a pain.
|
|
|
|
So, I just signed up for spamcop.net. I've been cutting and pasting my
|
|
email into their report form for awhile, but now I have all my mail routed
|
|
and filtered through them.
|
|
|
|
It's too soon to determine its effectiveness, but the control and
|
|
configuration options of spamcop.net look *much* more powerful than I
|
|
expected.
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 1)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Keep us posted on how effective spamcop.net is. I'm curious. :)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Sheppy,
|
|
|
|
I have SpamCop set to either forward my mail to a "clean" account, or
|
|
"hold" in my spamcop mailbox what it suspects might be spam. I think
|
|
SpamCop is currently experiencing an error where it "holds" everything not
|
|
on my pre-approved white list (a list of specific email addresses or
|
|
domains from which to accept email); I'm not sure why that is, but I saw
|
|
someone else report the same behavior.
|
|
|
|
It also appears that SpamCop is due to switch to a new filtering system
|
|
soon that many people are complaining about, saying that it drops the catch
|
|
rate from 100% to 10%. Some vocal individuals are cancelling their
|
|
membership over this change.
|
|
|
|
The new system will also come with a different price structure. Currently,
|
|
SpamCop charges $.50/meg; they'll be changing it to $3/month.
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 3)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Well, so far I have plenty of problems with SpamCop.net:
|
|
|
|
1) All inbound email, spam or not, is being held unless I previously
|
|
whitelisted the sender. It's almost like having to check two email boxes
|
|
now, one for received mail and one for held mail.
|
|
|
|
2) Some emails that make it through the filter have their contents
|
|
duplicated in HTML, when it was not sent that way.
|
|
|
|
3) I subscribed Monday afternoon with 50 megs of email bandwidth; I'm now
|
|
down to 49.3. SpamCop has *not* received or held 700K of email on my
|
|
behalf in the last 48 hours. I don't know what kind of "new math" this is,
|
|
but considering I pay by the meg, I don't like it.
|
|
|
|
4) A mailing list for newbies exists, but none of my questions have been
|
|
satisfactorily answered. The man responsible for SpamCop (it's a one-man
|
|
show) obviously doesn't have time to read and respond to posts to that
|
|
list, either.
|
|
|
|
5) SpamCop is sending spam reports to the ISP that receives and forwards my
|
|
email to spamcop.net, despite that ISP not being the origin of the spam.
|
|
|
|
Until some of these problems get resolved (or at least explained), I've
|
|
removed spamcop.net from my email forwarding system.
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 4)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I am trying spamcop as well and my biggest problem has been significant lag
|
|
sometime in the 2 - 3 hour range.
|
|
|
|
I am not getting many held messages, but have only been trying for a day.
|
|
|
|
Is there any other services out there?
|
|
|
|
W
|
|
|
|
(WAYNER, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 5)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I just prefer lots of filters for dealing with Spam.
|
|
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek
|
|
Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1
|
|
Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 6)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> I just prefer lots of filters for dealing with Spam. <<
|
|
|
|
Me too. I have a procmail filter running on my ISP shell which blocks about
|
|
75% of the spam, thus preventing it from ever being downloaded to my
|
|
computer (saves a lot of time on a dialup account when you get dozens of
|
|
spams every day.) Almost all the rest of it gets weeded out by my Outlook
|
|
filters (rules).
|
|
|
|
If you're interested, you can find the procmail filter at
|
|
http://www.spambouncer.com
|
|
|
|
Tony
|
|
|
|
(A2.TONY, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 7)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I've used OE a lot in the past, and I like it. However, there's no OS X
|
|
version. I was using Apple's Mail program, but the filtering was not up to
|
|
what I wanted. I'm currently using Eudora 5 for OS X. The filtering there
|
|
is more than adequate.
|
|
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek
|
|
Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1
|
|
Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 8)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
SpamCop.net seems to be working better. It's captured five spam today, but
|
|
has let real mail that I hadn't anticipatory whitelisted still pass through
|
|
to me. It wasn't doing this before, which was one of my major complaints.
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 14)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Every now and then, I receive an email from hahaha@sexyfun.net with an
|
|
attached file, midgets.scr. I've always deleted it, figuring it was either
|
|
spam or a virus.
|
|
|
|
Today I received that email again, for the first time since I routed my
|
|
mail through spamcop.net. This time, instead of midgets.scr, there was a
|
|
.txt file attached:
|
|
|
|
****** Message from InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT ******
|
|
|
|
** WARNING! Attached file midgets.scr contains:
|
|
|
|
WORM_HYBRIS.M virus
|
|
|
|
Attempted to clean the file but it is not cleanable.
|
|
It has been deleted.
|
|
***************** End of message ***************
|
|
|
|
Very cool. Kudos to SpamCop.
|
|
|
|
-Ken
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 15)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
That's pretty cool. Sounds like Spamcop is starting to work out for you.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 26, Msg 16)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[APU]
|
|
A2PIX UPDATED TO v3.0b9
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Lazarus Long, who released the Apple ][ Font for the Macintosh, has updated
|
|
his Apple II image viewing program for the Mac, a2pix, to v3.0b9
|
|
|
|
http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=11141&db=mac
|
|
http://www.lazilong.com/apple_II/a2pix/
|
|
|
|
(KGAGNE, Cat 12, Top 1, Msg 10)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[ASG]
|
|
Apple II SOFTWARE FOR GIF FILES
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Um, #4,558,302 was filed on June 20, 1983 (per the info found at
|
|
www.uspto.gov). It will expire in a little over 18 months. If LZW follows
|
|
the like of RSA, then perhaps something LZW based will appear at KFest
|
|
2003. That would be exciting.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 12, Top 3, Msg 9)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Yes, that would be exciting. It'll be nice to have the whole
|
|
Unisys-as-bad-guy thing done and over with, at least.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 12, Top 3, Msg 10)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Is the algorithm publicly available?
|
|
|
|
W
|
|
|
|
(WAYNER, Cat 12, Top 3, Msg 11)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
It's patented (until June 20, 2003 :), so until then using it requires
|
|
filling out forms and paying licensing fees.
|
|
|
|
There are plenty of reference implementations of lzw (unix compress, nulib,
|
|
gif viewers/creators, etc) with the source code freely available.
|
|
|
|
(KWS, Cat 12, Top 3, Msg 12)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Software patents which require license fees doesn't mean that the algorythm
|
|
isn't publicly available. There are a ton of references that explain how
|
|
it works. KWS already mentioned that the implementation in source code can
|
|
be found in many places. This doesn't exclude the IIgs--you should be able
|
|
to find several different source codes with LZW on ftp.gno.org.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 12, Top 3, Msg 13)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[NGP]
|
|
NUMBERS OF ROM 01 vs ROM 3 GSs PRODUCED
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Anyone have a guesstimate on number of ROM_01's vs. ROM_3's produced by
|
|
Apple?
|
|
|
|
ROM_4's need not apply :)
|
|
|
|
Ryan
|
|
|
|
(RSUENAGA, Cat 17, Top 7, Msg 1)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Not yet, but I sent off an email to a Nathalie Welch of Apple Computer.
|
|
I got her email address from the following URL:
|
|
|
|
http://www.apple.com/pr/prcontacts.html
|
|
|
|
I asked her for a breakdown of each significant machine type (II, II+, IIe,
|
|
IIc, IIc+, IIgs (ROM 00), IIgs (ROM 01), IIgs (ROM 03).
|
|
|
|
Let's see if they care to respond.
|
|
|
|
Erick
|
|
|
|
(WAGNERE, Cat 17, Top 7, Msg 2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
From postings from Apple employees back in 1992, a little less than a
|
|
million Apple IIgs were produced. Of those, 2/3 were ROM 00/01 and 1/3 was
|
|
ROM 03. Based on a report from inCider back in 1986, there was 10,000 ROM
|
|
00 produced. I don't think there has ever been any confirmation if that
|
|
meant release in just the U.S. or internationally.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 17, Top 7, Msg 3)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[ADK]
|
|
AppleDesign ADB KEYBOARD WORK ON AN Apple IIGS?
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
I can't remember the discussion on this, so I need to ask. Does the
|
|
AppleDesign ADB keyboard work on an Apple IIGS?
|
|
|
|
Thank you,
|
|
|
|
Barry Rees
|
|
|
|
(BREES, Cat 17, Top 19, Msg 4)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
The AppleDesign keyboard doesn't work reliably on the IIgs, in my
|
|
experience.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 17, Top 19, Msg 5)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
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[SSC]
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SUPER SERIAL CARD vs SUPER SERIAL CARD II
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Are the "Super Serial Card" and "Super Serial Card II" the same card? I've
|
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never been real clear on this. :)
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
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Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 18, Top 15, Msg 8)
|
|
|
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>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
|
The finished one, the one we all know as the Super Serial Card is really
|
|
the "II", I have one that is different in that it has a 26 IDC header
|
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connector on it and a slightly different layout where as the one released
|
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has only a 10 pin IDC header on it.
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A penny a pin, for 16 extra pins not needed saved a bundle of money in
|
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those days. 16 less holes to drill in the PCB.
|
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|
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This coming from designers driven by Steve Wozniac's obsession to make it
|
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cost as little as possible while still building a superior product. The
|
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Disk ][ analog card layout was completely thrown out and started again to
|
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save just one more hole in the PCB.
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On the PCB a hole where a trace goes from the front to the back side of the
|
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board is known as a VIA, the best design with reference to using
|
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through-hole components (DIP chips, resistors, caps like what the ][+ and
|
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//e are made of as opposed to the surface-mount stuff like the IIgs) is to
|
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work the layout to make the most use of the component holes as VIAs instead
|
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of having to drill more holes in the board. Back then each hole was another
|
|
10 cents in manufacturing costs. Considering the first 200 Apple II's were
|
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made and paid for before they were sold, every penny counted and that
|
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philosophy stayed with Apple for many years after.
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|
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The RAMFast Rev C and Rev D are good examples of through-hole compared to
|
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surface mount. The RAMFast Rev D also has a bit of this same "Woz" approach
|
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to limiting VIAs and board area. The address lines on the EPROM have been
|
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re-ordered as so no traces have to cross each other to get to the ROM where
|
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as the Rev C is not. The Rev C card is huge and has lots of room to run
|
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stuff all over where as the Rev D was a challenge to cram as much as
|
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possible. The smaller the PCB the more you can make on a standard piece of
|
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stock - the less you waste. If you design your PCB to use every inch of the
|
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panel you pay less in that you are paying for the full panel anyway so you
|
|
might as well use it. That combined with the fewer holes you have drilled
|
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in it mean fewer incidents of possibly non-plated VIAs and through-holes
|
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meaning a failed board. This is an example of what I mean.
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___________________A1 ___________________A6
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/ __________________A2 / __________________A1
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|/ _________________A3 |/ _________________A7
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||/ ________________A4 ||/ ________________A5
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|||/ _______________A5 |||/ _______________A4
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||||/ ______________A6 ||||/ ______________A8
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|||||/ _____________A7 |||||/ _____________A3
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||||||/ ____________A8 ||||||/ ____________A2
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|||||||/ |||||||/
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|||||||| ||||||||
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|||||||| Rev C |||||||| Rev D
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o||||||| Standard o||||||| Non-standard
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o|||||| Layout o|||||| Layout
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o||||| o|||||
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o|||| o||||
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o||| o|||
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o|| o||
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o| o|
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o o
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That is why you can not switch the ROMs between RAMFast versions. One was
|
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optimized for PCB layout and the other is not. The SIMMs on the Sirius RAM
|
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card are the same way. In the two banks each 4 are not wired 1 to 1, 2 to
|
|
2, etc either. Storage is storage, as long as the data is where it was
|
|
placed it will work. As long as that ROM image for the Rev D card is
|
|
organized in the order so that when the ROM is read it gets loaded in the
|
|
proper order everything is fine. That meant an extra step when writing the
|
|
ROM code for the RAMFast. Run the assembler, save the BIN image and then
|
|
run a program on it that acts much the opposite of a drive optimizer
|
|
program. Take every 8th byte and swap with every 5th byte, then take every
|
|
2nd byte and swap with every 7th byte. In more graphical terms, taking the
|
|
columns of the Supreme Court and removing them and putting them back in a
|
|
different order. A specified order. From the outside it looks no different
|
|
but inside (the computer) the data is now the way it needs to be.
|
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|
|
Tony
|
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|
|
-- Hmmm.. perhaps I should have saved that for a Juiced.GS article.
|
|
|
|
(A2.TONYD, Cat 18, Top 15, Msg 9)
|
|
[EOA]
|
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|
|
[HDP]
|
|
HARD DRIVE PREFERENCES
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
For modern drives, Seagate makes the best drives out there (alternatives
|
|
that I don't mind using are IBM SCSI and Maxtor IDE). I avoid everything
|
|
else. Of course, you should always make backups since drives can fail at
|
|
any time--even within a year of purchase.
|
|
|
|
I have never met a Micropolis drive I liked--I believe all the ones I had
|
|
to use are dead.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 19, Top 11, Msg 14)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[MBC]
|
|
INTERESTED IN A MPW IIgs BUNDLE CD-ROM?
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
If Syndicomm put together an MPW IIgs bundle CD-ROM, would there be
|
|
interest in such a product? It would include the MPW IIgs Assembler, C,
|
|
and Pascal compilers, along with the tools, interfaces, and libraries for
|
|
them. I'd also include the MPW IIgs ORCA/C compiler, and some form of
|
|
documentation for the various products. I don't know the pricing at this
|
|
point, I'm just in the contemplating stage. All of these products are
|
|
currently only available on floppy disk, which is why I'm asking.
|
|
|
|
I'd investigate getting permission from Apple to include MPW itself on the
|
|
CD, but Apple may or may not grant it. :)
|
|
|
|
Eric Shepherd
|
|
Owner
|
|
Syndicomm
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 33)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Yes, but it would, as usual, depend on the pricing.
|
|
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek
|
|
Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1
|
|
Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 34)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I'd be interested in it, depending on the versions. How far behind the
|
|
native IIGS versions are the MPW versions? If there was not a significant
|
|
difference, and there was documentation available (on the CD or pointed to
|
|
from the CD) where I could learn what the differences were, I'm sure I
|
|
would be interested
|
|
|
|
Am I missing something, or did you mention the C compiler twice? Are there
|
|
2 different compilers? .....ahh, I think I see, the first list you
|
|
mentioned were apple-branded products, right? That would make the
|
|
documentation issues I mentioned above even more important.
|
|
|
|
I'd probably be willing to pay at _least_ $50, but almost definitely not
|
|
more than $99.
|
|
|
|
Actually, isn't the MPW C compiler on the OPUS ][ CD? Or was it just the
|
|
documentation for it? Or is it the MPW ORCA C compiler that is on the
|
|
OPUS?
|
|
|
|
>> I'd investigate getting permission from Apple to include MPW itself on
|
|
the CD, but Apple may or may not grant it. :) <<
|
|
|
|
That would definitely be a bonus. Even though it is free (?) it would be
|
|
worth an extra $10 just to avoid the frustration of trying to find the
|
|
latest version of it on their site, and unpacking it and all.
|
|
|
|
To further expound on my version concern: I would love to be able to use
|
|
the mac to edit my IIGS programs, but I would also like to know that the
|
|
source code I developed on my Mac would also compile natively on the IIGS.
|
|
If there were functions missing in the APDA versions that were present in
|
|
the ORCA versions, or some other difference in compilation, that would have
|
|
to be documented.
|
|
|
|
Also, something else I just thought of. Is there a hardware or OS
|
|
limitation on MPW? IOW, will it run on a G3 running OS 9?
|
|
|
|
_________
|
|
| homas
|
|
|
|
(TCOMPTER, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 35)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Been moving 5.25s to 3.5s and 3.5s to CDs, etc., in an effort to gain more
|
|
storage space, so my ears and eyes are always open when I hear someone
|
|
wants to do the work for me :) (i.e. organize everything and put it on a
|
|
CD).
|
|
|
|
Over the past few years we've had some delightful compilations I've been
|
|
happy to purchase. This would be another one if you can pull it off.
|
|
|
|
Thanks for considering the task!
|
|
|
|
Steve
|
|
|
|
(KFESTSTEVE, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 39)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I've only used MPW once, and have never used the MPW IIgs tools, but that
|
|
won't stop me from repeating what I've heard :)
|
|
|
|
MPW IIgs asm is more powerful than Orca/M or APW. The macros have nicer
|
|
local variables, for example.
|
|
|
|
Orca/MPW C is slightly behind the most recent Orca/C.
|
|
|
|
Mike W. has suggested the MPW IIgs linker assumes 16 (or maybe 24-bit)
|
|
memory, so using it with newer versions of MacOS doesn't always work.
|
|
|
|
You also have the advantage of faster compiles and more powerful editors.
|
|
Plus, you can work while your work-in-progress needs a reboot :)
|
|
|
|
KWS, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 36)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
The MPW IIgs languages from Apple are:
|
|
MPW IIgs Assembler
|
|
MPW IIgs C
|
|
MPW IIgs Pascal
|
|
|
|
Of these, the assembler and Pascal compiler are excellent; MPW C is kind of
|
|
awful. There is also a Rez compiler, a linker, and assorted other tools.
|
|
|
|
The MPW IIgs linker doesn't tend to like newer versions of Mac OS but does
|
|
run on just about any hardware. I generally keep a Mac OS 8.1 or so system
|
|
around just for running MPW IIgs on. Another option that works quite well
|
|
is to run the MPW IIgs tools on a Mac emulator like Basilisk (even on the
|
|
Mac itself).
|
|
|
|
The assembler is particularly excellent, with support for records and a
|
|
fairly easy to learn macro system. The Pascal compiler was developed
|
|
specifically to create HyperCard IIgs and received a *lot* of engineering
|
|
support for that purpose, so it's also quite good.
|
|
|
|
MPW IIgs ORCA/C is the Byte Works C compiler for MPW IIgs. It's based on
|
|
ORCA/C 2.0.3 but does have a few enhancements, such as support for 4-byte
|
|
char/ints and for C++ style comments, among others.
|
|
|
|
Sheppy
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 37)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Also, one of my plans is to adjust the pricing of some of the APDA
|
|
products, especially the more expensive stuff like the MPW IIgs tools.
|
|
|
|
Sheppy
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 38)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> You also have the advantage of faster compiles and more powerful
|
|
editors. Plus, you can work while your work-in-progress needs a reboot :)
|
|
<<
|
|
|
|
To put this all in perspective, if you have a recent Macintosh that runs at
|
|
least at 200Mhz or so, you can use Bernie ][ the Rescue with the IIgs ORCA
|
|
environment. For instance this gives me a full reboot in around 10 seconds,
|
|
and assembly times are more than 10 times faster than a real IIgs. I don't
|
|
need to copy files to and from the IIgs, and I also have the full power of
|
|
Mac applications on hand in the other windows. I find that BBEdit's
|
|
powerful Find function is invaluable when trying to cross reference the
|
|
variables I have used...
|
|
|
|
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 16 Nov 2001 - 249 days till KFest '02
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5
|
|
Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3
|
|
http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/
|
|
|
|
(CONDUCTOR, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 40)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I've found that compilation speed isn't really an issue, since I use Bernie
|
|
or Kegs for development too. When using Bernie, I can use the Codewarrior
|
|
editor to do my editing, and then copy the text to the GS for compiling.
|
|
(Although I still haven't perfected that text copying technique, I might
|
|
point out)
|
|
|
|
So the real question I'm asking myself is: which will be a simpler
|
|
process, using the Codewarrior/Bernie process mentioned above, or using
|
|
MPW/Bernie? Which makes a simpler code-compile-test sequence? I'm sure
|
|
that there is some copy-to-the-GS step involved in using MPW, right?
|
|
|
|
OTOH, if I compile in MPW, and get an error, I can immediately go back to
|
|
looking at my code, right? That might save some time.
|
|
|
|
_________
|
|
| homas
|
|
|
|
(TCOMPTER, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 41)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
>> OTOH, if I compile in MPW, and get an error, I can immediately go back
|
|
to looking at my code, right? That might save some time. <<
|
|
|
|
Yes. What's nice with the MPW/Bernie combination is that you can have both
|
|
your code and the app (or debugger!) up at the same time. And you can drag
|
|
the app from the Mac into Bernie after compiling, and that works fine.
|
|
It's my preferred way to develop IIgs apps these days..
|
|
|
|
And the compile time is faster in MPW than it is in Bernie, by a long shot.
|
|
|
|
Sheppy
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 42)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I used MPW Pascal IIgs for Jasmine/Albatross, the Apple IIg GEnie front
|
|
end. It's a lovely compiler. Has a couple of bugs which you need to be
|
|
aware of, but they can be worked around.
|
|
|
|
I also use the linker for producing OMFs for all my major projects. I have
|
|
a Merlin command which copies all the Merlin links files to the Mac (across
|
|
AppleShare), MPW then links and builds the OMF, then the Merlin command
|
|
copies the resultant OMF back once it has been created. I then use another
|
|
Merlin command (my rcopy) to copy the resource files to the OMF, and it's
|
|
done. The MPW IIGS linker produces exceptionally small output files,
|
|
certainly more so than Merlin does. I can't remember why to be honest, and
|
|
I doubt it is super records, because I'm pretty sure later versions of
|
|
Merlin did supers. Anyway.
|
|
|
|
The entire process above is automated. A single build command in Merlin
|
|
assembles, copies the link files across, waits for the OMF, copies that
|
|
back, attaches the resources and optionally launches the app. Sweet.
|
|
|
|
For Jasmine, there was assembly and Pascal code, the Pascal in MPW, and the
|
|
assembly in Merlin. I also used Merlin to create a bunch of MPW equiv
|
|
libraries for the Pascal to call. All works quite nicely in fact,
|
|
considering how different Merlin is from everything else.
|
|
|
|
Regards,
|
|
Richard
|
|
|
|
(RICHARDB, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 43)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[LGF]
|
|
LANceGS GLITCH FOUND
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
When my first LANceGS arrived, I tried to use the built-in ping function
|
|
from the IP Tools application. It never worked for me, and I think I
|
|
remember others having the same problem.
|
|
|
|
I had a couple of hours to waste tonight, so I did some testing and found
|
|
out that the checksum for the IP header is being calculated incorrectly.
|
|
Some hosts may ignore that (incorrectly), but most do not. After patching
|
|
it, ping works great. FWIW, the section of code responsible clears the
|
|
processor carry bit when it shouldn't (twice).
|
|
|
|
My copy is v0.13, so maybe there's a newer version out there already. In
|
|
any case, it was fun.
|
|
|
|
- Aaron
|
|
|
|
(APULVER, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 52)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I haven't looked at version numbers in quite a while. :)
|
|
|
|
Cool that you found and fixed that glitch. I'll drop Joachim a note, see
|
|
what he knows. :)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 53)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[ADN]
|
|
Apple II DOCUMENTATION FOR NEWBIES
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
OK, folks, we need volunteers to put together docs for newbies!
|
|
Volunteers? :)
|
|
|
|
Sheppy
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 30, Top 4, Msg 4)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
What can I do to help?
|
|
|
|
Roger A. Schnorenberg - Roger
|
|
"Roger A. Schnorenberg" <AB0MX@ARRL.net>
|
|
Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b6 with NiftySpell 1.0
|
|
Via Marinetti 2.1 TCP/IP stack on a ROM 0 IIGS upgraded to the max!
|
|
|
|
(SCHNORENBERG, Cat 30, Top 4, Msg 5)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
There are two ways people can help with the A2DP -- the first is to help
|
|
figure out what needs to be written. The second is to actually write
|
|
something. :)
|
|
|
|
Once we figure out what we need to write, we can start getting people set
|
|
up to write parts of it. I'd like to see several people involved, each
|
|
writing a chunk of documentation that we can then put into a cohesive
|
|
document and run through some editing to improve flow and strengthen the
|
|
content.
|
|
|
|
Sheppy
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 30, Top 4, Msg 6)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[WDN]
|
|
WHAT DOCUMENTATION IS NEEDED?
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Let's start planning the sorts of documentation we need. Maybe an outline
|
|
to start with? Then we can split it up among people willing to write.
|
|
|
|
I'll start:
|
|
|
|
I. Apple II Basics
|
|
A. Introduction to the Apple II
|
|
B. Comparison of the various models
|
|
C. Common features
|
|
D. Operating system list
|
|
|
|
II. Apple II Hardware
|
|
A. Components you need
|
|
B. Recommended peripherals
|
|
C. Options
|
|
D. Setting up your Apple II
|
|
1. Installing cards
|
|
2. Connecting floppy drives
|
|
3. SCSI and SCSI voodoo
|
|
4. Connecting a printer
|
|
a. Using a serial card
|
|
b. Using a parallel card
|
|
c. On the Apple IIc
|
|
d. On the Apple IIgs and IIc+
|
|
5. Connecting a modem
|
|
a. Using a serial card
|
|
b. On the Apple IIc
|
|
c. On the Apple IIgs and IIc+
|
|
6. Memory expansion
|
|
a. Apple II, II+, //e (Slinky)
|
|
b. Apple //e aux slot
|
|
c. Apple IIc and IIc+
|
|
d. Apple IIgs
|
|
7. Finding hardware
|
|
|
|
Anyone care to pick it up? :)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 30, Top 5, Msg 1)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I'm already doing the whole section on vendors.
|
|
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek
|
|
Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1
|
|
Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager
|
|
|
|
(A2.RYAN, Cat 30, Top 5, Msg 2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Great, Ryan, that's super!
|
|
|
|
Sheppy
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 30, Top 5, Msg 3)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
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[WWP]
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THE WELCOME WAGON PROJECT
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""
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The Welcome Wagon Project's goal is to create an assortment of starter kit
|
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disks for new Apple II users, that can be available for download or cheap
|
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purchase.
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The goal is to have, say, utility disks, productivity disks, game disks,
|
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etc. Stuff that's considered must-have for the various Apple II systems.
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Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
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Building communities, bit by bit.
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 30, Top 14, Msg 1)
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[EOA]
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[IOV]
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WERE IN/OUT VECTORS FIXED IN GS/OS?
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
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Did the character in/out vectors ever actually get fixed in GS/OS? IIRC
|
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there was a bug with these, supposedly fixed, but I don't recall if it
|
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actually was.
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|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
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Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
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(SYNDICOMM, Cat 53, Top 22, Msg 1)
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>>>>>
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"""""
|
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The bug listed in the Orca/M manual was fixed by the time 6.0.1 was
|
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released.
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Geoff
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|
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(GEOFF, Cat 53, Top 22, Msg 2)
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|
>>>>>
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"""""
|
|
Excellent. I have some thoughts for things I can do with this. :)
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|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 53, Top 22, Msg 3)
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[EOA]
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|
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[NTP]
|
|
NETWORK TIME PROTOCOL
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"""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Based on the NTP RFC, it looks pretty simple to implement.
|
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|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 57, Top 41, Msg 2)
|
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|
|
>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
|
Are you volunteering? ;D
|
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|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 57, Top 41, Msg 3)
|
|
[EOA]
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|
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|
[RBK]
|
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RECOMMENDED BOOK?
|
|
"""""""""""""""""
|
|
I was just curious if the book "Mastering the Apple IIgs Toolbox" (It's a
|
|
book from Compute circa 1987) would be helpful, or is it too old to be of
|
|
much use to a programmer trying to learn how to program the IIGS.
|
|
|
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Any help is appreciated...
|
|
|
|
Dain Neater
|
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|
|
(A2.DAIN, Cat 59, Top 7, Msg 1)
|
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|
|
>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
|
This is a great book; I highly recommend it. It's the book I got my start
|
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with, and it's still relevant.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
<SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 7, Msg 2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
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"""""
|
|
I've read a couple IIgs 65816 asm books (which give cursory coverage to the
|
|
toolbox), and my complaint with them was that the were rushed out the door
|
|
in 1986 to cash in while the cashing in was hot. Consequently, they spend
|
|
half their time talking about 16-bit code executed from applesoft, and half
|
|
their time talking about 1986-era toolbox programming and prodos 16.
|
|
|
|
Resources and the TaskMaster made life easier (if they had been available
|
|
in 1986, we'd be using IIg4s now :).
|
|
|
|
If Sheppy recommends the book, it's probably good, but be sure to read the
|
|
Programmers guide to System 6 afterwards :)
|
|
|
|
(KWS, Cat 59, Top 7, Msg 3)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
"Mastering the Apple IIgs Toolbox" wasn't rushed out the door like some of
|
|
the others; it didn't come out until '87 or '88. It includes coverage of
|
|
toolsets that Apple didn't even document until '90 or so, like the Note
|
|
Synthesizer and Note Sequencer.
|
|
|
|
However, its examples are all in assembly language, so if you're learning
|
|
C, it may or may not be all that useful.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 7, Msg 4)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[PDF]
|
|
PDF FILE TYPE - MORE DISCUSSION
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Having a PDF file type is debatable since it falls under the same category
|
|
if a filetype is needed for HTML files.
|
|
|
|
When SIS was developed, I suggested that a filetype should be assigned for
|
|
this file. I was thinking along the lines of a GSDOC (i.e. the same main
|
|
type as AWGS) with a unique aux type. HTML is really nothing more than a
|
|
text file with special tags which display formatting in a Browser. And to
|
|
support greater compatibility with existing text editors for 8-bit Apple
|
|
IIs and the GS, it was decided that HTML files are just TXT files. SIS
|
|
tries to be smart and determine if something is HTML by looking at the
|
|
filename (i.e. .HTML extension) and by checking the file content for HTML
|
|
code. Since only a handful of checks are made (for speed reasons), it can
|
|
mis-identify HTML files. A unique file type is the only safeguard, if one
|
|
changes all their TXT files into another file type and text editors get
|
|
updated to store as that format (there are those who write HTML files
|
|
without using a HTML editor).
|
|
|
|
PDF is also just a TXT file with special information to display a formatted
|
|
page in PDF viewers. PDF files should be transferred as text to and from
|
|
a GS. Communication programs such as Spectrum do not handle "special" text
|
|
files as text--anything that isn't TXT is assume to be some sort of binary
|
|
file. Even GWFTP will download a pdf file and save it as a TXT file.
|
|
|
|
It would be nice to have unique filetype for these special text files, but
|
|
how much support will software get to take advantage of them? Will
|
|
developers update old programs (Proterm, text editors, etc.)? Does the
|
|
Apple II user base really care (has anybody opened a non-HTML file into SIS
|
|
and had it displayed as HTML due to the poor checking...also PDF has a
|
|
unique identifier in the first couple of characters in the file so a TXT
|
|
file type is perfectly acceptable so a PDF viewer doesn't need a special
|
|
file type to distinguish between PDF and regular TXT).
|
|
|
|
Going forward, I don't see the continual use of TXT file type as a problem
|
|
-- beyond the feature to open a file from the Finder. I'm sure Apple IIgs
|
|
users will not mind running a program to open a PDF file (if such a program
|
|
ever is written).
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 12)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Well... I'm a big believer in the convenience of being able to just
|
|
double-click a file to get the right app to open.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 13)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
If a PDF file type becomes available, I'll definitely make sure that SCAP
|
|
supports it. Heck, if a HTML file type becomes available, I'll make sure
|
|
that SIS supports it too. I'm not going to go through the procedure to
|
|
create one due to the decisions made back in 1997, but do not mind
|
|
supporting them for the future.
|
|
|
|
But then what about file types for files such as WAV, JPG, BMP, PNG, etc?
|
|
There is software which supports these formats so should there be a unique
|
|
file type on the IIgs since they are popular media formats.
|
|
|
|
Is there a line that is drawn somewhere?
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 14)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I'd argue that while PostScript could (arguably) be called source code, PDF
|
|
is more of an end-user product, so if it had a type, it would need to be
|
|
somewhere else. Possibly along with the graphics file formats.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 16)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Perhaps a hypermedia format since it supports bitmap graphics, vector
|
|
graphics, text, and URLs. I haven't looked at the specs recently to see
|
|
what else it supports.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
|
|
(GEOFF, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 17)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
[FGJ]
|
|
FREE GAME FOR JOINING SYNDICOMM ONLINE
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
The holidays are nearly upon us, and Gamebits, Syndicomm's video gaming
|
|
community, is in the spirit of giving! While supplies last, all new
|
|
Syndicomm subscribers who use signup code "GAME" and remain members for 90
|
|
days will receive a free video or computer game for the system of their
|
|
choice!
|
|
|
|
There are no contests, no gimmicks, and no tricks. Just sign up for
|
|
service and get a free game - guaranteed.
|
|
|
|
Subscribe with a credit card and also get a free month. That's three
|
|
months of Syndicomm service, plus a free video game (average retail price
|
|
$40+), for as little as $16.67!
|
|
|
|
Tell your friends to combine this promotion with the Syndicomm Buddy
|
|
Program, and you as the referrer also get a $10 account credit. Just ask
|
|
them to enter your username during the signup process when asked for "Your
|
|
sponsoring buddy's username."
|
|
|
|
To subscribe to Syndicomm, visit
|
|
http://www.syndicomm.com/join.html
|
|
|
|
Full details of this offer can be found at
|
|
http://www.gamebits.net/syndicomm/promo.shtml
|
|
|
|
Gamebits is accessible at page 850, or with your web browser at
|
|
http://www.syndicomm.com/communities/gamebits/messages
|
|
|
|
(A2 BB,KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 35, Msg 16)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[BGY]
|
|
BEEN A GOOD YEAR FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Syndicomm, the company, officially went into business on November 1, 2000
|
|
(not counting the predecessor company by the same name, that was around for
|
|
most of the 1990s). The online service opened its doors in a public beta
|
|
test on December 8, 2000. Been a good year. :)
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(HelpDesk BB, SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 4, Msg 23)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[AFC]
|
|
ADDING FORUMS AT A GOOD CLIP
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
We've been adding forums at a pretty good clip. We're at fifteen, if you
|
|
count the three that are under construction now. Not bad, considering we
|
|
first opened our doors a year ago Saturday.
|
|
|
|
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
|
|
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
|
|
Building communities, bit by bit.
|
|
|
|
(HelpDesk BB, SYNDICOMM Cat 4, Top 4, Msg 23)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[TPQ]
|
|
The Prolific Quill community invites you to participate
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
in the "Operation Douglas" writing contest! Douglas' story will be told
|
|
bit-by-bit by each contestant who writes a short chapter in this story,
|
|
building on the previous parts. The author of the best chapter wins a $20
|
|
bookstore gift certificate! Visit Prolific Quill at page 990 and read
|
|
Category 2, Topic 8 for details.
|
|
|
|
(Logon Banner, Syndicomm Online)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[SOO]
|
|
Syndicomm Online opened its doors one year ago,
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
on December 8, 2000, in an open beta test period. Thanks to all of you
|
|
that have come aboard since then!
|
|
|
|
(Logon Banner, Syndicomm Online)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
[SMC]
|
|
STRANGE MEMORY CARD
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Ran across a memory card for the IIGS the card says "GS Sauce" from Harris
|
|
Laboratories Inc.. It has 4 slots which accepts 30 pin sims..It also has 4
|
|
dip switch settings on the board. Anyone have any info on these..?? This is
|
|
the only one like it i have ever came across....
|
|
|
|
(SKEZER, 3535.1, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Sounds similar to my Apple Q-RAM card. The simm slots probably only accept
|
|
8-chip 1 meg simms. The dip switches probably determine if the simm slot is
|
|
filled. You would switch the ones on that are in use and off on the ones
|
|
that aren't. My Q-RAM card had two dip switches. One for each bank of two
|
|
simms. I switch the dip on to say that the memory in that bank is filled
|
|
and off if it isn't. I don't know if that is the same with your card. Try
|
|
it and see. My card only accepts 256k and 1 meg simms. It won't recognize
|
|
the two or three chip simms either that was popular on some Macs.
|
|
|
|
C'est moi! http://www.facelink.com/wrstrutts
|
|
Email: wrstrutts1@home.com
|
|
|
|
(WILLIAM7622, 3535.2, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Thanks.. I will give that a try.. Were there many of these types of cards
|
|
put out for the IIGS...?
|
|
|
|
Thanks...
|
|
|
|
(SKEZER, 3535.3, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I think most of the later boards came that way. The older boards made in
|
|
the 80's were of the ram chip type but most of the ones from the 90's that
|
|
I have heard about took simms.
|
|
|
|
C'est moi! http://www.facelink.com/wrstrutts
|
|
Email: wrstrutts1@home.com
|
|
|
|
(WILLIAM7622, 3535.4, Delphi A2 web side)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2PRO |
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
|
|
|
|
[MOS]
|
|
MARINETTI OPEN SOURCE PROJECT
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Hi all,
|
|
|
|
Were you interested in helping out with the Marinetti Open Source Project
|
|
but did not know how to get started?
|
|
|
|
I've just posted a number of guiding emails onto the Help discussion forum
|
|
on the Sourceforge site.
|
|
|
|
The emails deal with how to become a contributor to the project, how to get
|
|
the latest development object code, where to find the information you need
|
|
to set up your development environment, how to get the latest source code,
|
|
directions on where to find information about building the source, and
|
|
further reading material.
|
|
|
|
You can find this information here:
|
|
Go to the Marinetti Open Source Project home page on SourceForge
|
|
http://sourceforge.net/projects/marinetti/
|
|
then click on the "Public Forums" link
|
|
then click on the "Help" Forum link
|
|
|
|
The information I refer to above can be found in the "How do I get
|
|
started?" thread.
|
|
|
|
Cheers,
|
|
Andrew Roughan
|
|
|
|
(ROUGHANA, 378.2, Delphi A2PRO web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Cool. Thanks for doing that, Andrew. I'll have to stop by there and read
|
|
that this weekend.
|
|
|
|
Unfortunately, I'm not sure when I actually have time to try and help out
|
|
but I'm hoping it won't be too long.
|
|
|
|
Jeff Blakeney
|
|
Dean of the Apple II University in the Apple II area of Syndicomm
|
|
|
|
(JBLAKENEY, 378.3, Delphi A2PRO web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
Hi Jeff,
|
|
|
|
I was searching through comp.sys.apple2 for references to Marinetti when
|
|
I found this quote of yours from 2000/04/02:
|
|
|
|
>> E-mail clients are still in the works and I'm going to finish mine if
|
|
for no other reason than to prove to myself that I can actually finish a
|
|
project. :-) <<
|
|
|
|
I thought I'd drop you a line and see how you're going with it. Do you need
|
|
any encouragement? :)
|
|
|
|
I'm trying to get the MOSP site going again. Are you interested in helping
|
|
out in any way? One thing that would really help would be some additional
|
|
weight on momentum to get things going.
|
|
|
|
Registering as a developer on Soureforge and sending the MOSP administrator
|
|
an email with a request to be included as a developer in the MOSP area
|
|
would help out a lot.
|
|
|
|
http://sourceforge.net/projects/marinetti
|
|
|
|
Cheers,
|
|
Andrew
|
|
|
|
(ROUGHANA, 378.4, Delphi A2PRO web side)
|
|
|
|
>>>>>
|
|
"""""
|
|
I haven't worked on it for a while now as I'm a Windows programmer by day
|
|
working under contract to my brother's company and a data entry person by
|
|
night working at Fedex. I'm currently working on a project with my brother
|
|
that is taking up a lot of my time as we have deadlines and such to meet.
|
|
|
|
However, I still stand by that statement. It will be finished and I'm
|
|
planning on having it ready before KFest 2002.
|
|
|
|
A little encouragement is always a good thing because most of the folks in
|
|
chat in the Apple II area on Syndicomm.com now know how much of a
|
|
procrastinator I can be and keep ribbing me about it. :-)
|
|
|
|
>> I'm trying to get the MOSP site going again. Are you interested in
|
|
helping out in any way? One thing that would really help would be some
|
|
additional weight on momentum to get things going. <<
|
|
|
|
I'd love to help out but like I said in my earlier message, I probably
|
|
won't have time to think about helping until January. My Windows
|
|
programming has had me working with TCP/IP programming a fair bit lately so
|
|
having to read a few more RFCs wouldn't kill me. :-)
|
|
|
|
>> Registering as a developer on Soureforge and sending the MOSP
|
|
administrator an email with a request to be included as a developer in the
|
|
MOSP area would help out a lot. <<
|
|
|
|
I'll get myself registered soon and as soon as I'm ready to help I'll let
|
|
everyone know. I downloaded the current version of Marinetti but haven't
|
|
had a chance to transfer it to my IIgs to try it out yet.
|
|
|
|
Jeff Blakeney
|
|
Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro Forum
|
|
|
|
(JBLAKENEY, 378.6, Delphi A2PRO web side)
|
|
[EOA]
|
|
|
|
|
|
[AGD]
|
|
THE Apple IIgs DEBUGGER
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
While reading through the Programmers Introduction to the Apple IIgs I came
|
|
across references in Chapter 7 to the "Apple IIgs Debugger" and the "Apple
|
|
IIgs Debugger Reference".
|
|
|
|
Does anyone know if these things were actually released to the public? Does
|
|
anyone have them?
|
|
|
|
I think I have the latest documentation available
|
|
- "Apple II GSbug and Debugging Tools Reference" draft 3/16/89
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- "GSbug and Debugging Tools Release Note" Version 4.0b1 from 13-Apr-89.
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- some loose pages with header "GSBug 1.5 ERS 2/3/92" that has a cover page
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titled "GSBug Version 1.6 ERS October 10, 1991" which documents changes
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up to version 1.6b21
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However I would interested to read the "Apple IIgs Debugger Reference". If
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in fact it exists.
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Cheers, Andrew
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(ROUGHANA, 412.1, Delphi A2PRO web side)
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>>>>>
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Sounds like you have more than I've ever seen. The only documentation I've
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ever had for GSBug was in the Orca/M manual.
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I learned a lot more at Richard Bennett's GSBug session at KFest '98. I'm
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going to have to make a transcript of that session from my video tape some
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day just to make sure I don't forget any of the things he showed that I
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didn't know you could do. :-)
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Sorry I can't help on the Debugger Reference. Hopefully we can get
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permission to share all these documents in the future.
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Jeff Blakeney
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Dean of the Apple II University in the Apple II area of Syndicomm.
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(JBLAKENEY, 412.2, Delphi A2PRO web side)
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