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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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THINKING KFEST: The KFest FAQ
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AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
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"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 2, No. 5
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Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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May 15, 1999
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OPENING PITCH
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Sultans Of Swing ----------------------------------------------- [OPN]
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A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR]
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The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET]
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Miscellanea [MSC]
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Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR]
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Public Postings [PUB]
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Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]
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A2Pro_DUCTIVITY
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Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]
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THINKING KFEST
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The KFest FAQ -------------------------------------------------- [KFE]
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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[*] [*] [*]
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READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
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""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
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issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
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something like:
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EXTRA INNINGS
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About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
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[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
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:: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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: :
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: "Who NEEDS four digits to a year!" :
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: "Not comparable. :
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: "You might ask who needs more than :
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: 640K of memory, though." :
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[EOA]
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[OPN]------------------------------
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OPENING PITCH |
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From The Editor
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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SULTANS OF SWING
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Don't forget where you came from. An important lesson for all of us
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to learn, whether we're proud or ashamed of our origins. It can inspire us
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and uplift us, whether we accomplish what we can out of not wanting to go
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back or making the old folk back home proud.
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I started online on Genie.
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It was nearly two years ago that I gave up the fight myself. GEnie
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had become Genie, the most expensive service of its kind in the world, and
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Delphi had become a viable alternative for Apple II support. Genie was no
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longer unchallenged as the home of the best online Apple II support in the
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universe. More and more Genie users left--many for Delphi, some for the
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unknown. It was time for a change. _GenieLamp A2_ was no more, and
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shortly thereafter, _The Lamp!_ rose from its ashes, with its new home on
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Delphi.
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Not all of our friends followed, however. Our Apple II brothers and
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sisters on Genie were a hardy bunch, and many steadfastly dug in, refusing
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to leave Genie.
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They may not have counted on Genie leaving them.
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I write this on May 10, 1999. It's been about three weeks since the
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A2 RoundTable on Genie became inaccessible to both the staff and members of
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Genie. Not only was Genie's A2 one of the most popular places for Apple II
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support anywhere, it was also among the busiest of Genie's RoundTables.
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You would think that fixing a problem with your fattest cash cow would be
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number one on their list of priorities.
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If it is, they're sure not acting like it.
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I'm not declaring Genie dead--in fact, it's survived a lot longer than
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I ever expected it to. But if Genie's A2 has been inaccessible this long
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without it being repaired, it may be the final blow. At the very least,
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they're certainly in dire straits.
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So I make the plea again, to our old friends on Genie: come home to
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Delphi.
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It may not be where you're from, but it'll be where you're at.
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Excuse Me Department: What you'll read about as a major Delphi "burp"
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in this issue was a strange occurrence that resulted in several hundred
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duplicate messages in the A2 Forum (among others). Things could've been
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worse, I guess--we didn't see mass deletion of messages, for instance,
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which would've been a disaster.
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What fell somewhere between a disaster and an annoyance was editing
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the messages in the A2 Forum for use in this issue of _The Lamp!_. My
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apologies for the tardiness of this issue.
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There's A New Club In Town Department: KansasFest 1999 is on for July
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1999, on the campus of Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. It's time
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once again to gear up for staying up all night and partying all day. You
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can get the latest word on KFest 1999 at the KFest Home page at
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http://www.kfest.org. After many twists and turns, it finally seems that I
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will be there again, to shake your hand and talk II until the cows come
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home. . . and go out again.
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Keep the fire. We'll be by in thirty.
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Ryan
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thelamp@sheppyware.net
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ASCII ART BEGINS
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[EOA]
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[OPN]------------------------------
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A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |
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Checking out A2 on Delphi
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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* The Heat Is On
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* Miscellanea
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* Rumor Mill
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* Public Postings
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* Best Of The Best
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THE HEAT IS ON
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[*] Welcome to A2 ....... What's Happened To Genie A2?
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[*] General Chatter ....... apple2.org--Find FAQs There
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[*] Apple Operating Systems ....... ProSel TidBits
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[*] Welcome to A2 ....... Reclassification Bonanza
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[*] General Chatter ....... How Many Hard Drive Partitions?
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MISCELLANEA
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THAT SEVENTIES COMPUTER As a follow up to my most recent Juiced.GS
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""""""""""""""""""""""" column. . .
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http://members.home.net/dfgrant/index.htm
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Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
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Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
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Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
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(RSUENAGA, 21819, GO COM A2)
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RAMFAST LIMITATIONS IN THE LATE 1990'S The RAMFast SCSI Card is limited
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1) No Device larger than 1 GB (Contiguous blocks) (Greater than 1024
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Cylinders) This is per device, not the sum of all devices. But it might
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as well be:
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2) Only 12 Partitions per device. 12*32MB = 384MB in ProDOS Partitions.
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One could use HFS, but when, not if, it crashes you'll wish you hadn't.
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:)
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You can create up to 12 partitions per drive, and using the utilities,
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select and deselect them at boot time for a total of 12 active.
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You can not use more than 1 RAMFast per computer. The drivers do not
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support looking for an additional card, when they find one, that is the
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card. This is both a driver and internal firmware limitation of the
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RAMFast.
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IE: You boot a RAMFast in slot 2, hold down the keypad zero to enter the
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utilities and it will find the card in slot 7. (Or the other way around, I
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forget which direction it scans)
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These limitations are a result of shortcuts during development:
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"No one will have two of these... (probably thinking, they, and the hard
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disks are too expensive.. )"
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"I don't want to write code to scroll the partition list in the utilities."
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(Which may have meant only supporting 14 devices at the time because the
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RAMFast physically mapped it's partitions to a slot prior to ProDOS 8 1.9
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and support for more than just 2 or 4 hard disk partitions.
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Later version of ProDOS 8 phantom slotted starting at slot 1 and working up
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until either every slot/drive that was available was mapped or it ran out
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of partitions.
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In effect, Extended SmartPort operation like GS/OS supported was brought to
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the ProDOS 8 environment. Physical slot assignments by the RAMFast was no
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longer needed and if you are still using it you should actually turn it all
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off. Unmap the partitions, leaving just Slot 7 D1 and D2 mapped. Or
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whatever slot your RAMFast resides in. D2 is not even needed but it's not
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hurting anything.
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Tony
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>>>>> It's easy to criticize now, but when a 1 gig drive cost over $2K,
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""""" it was a hell of a lot more reasonable. There really WAS no point
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in writing code to handle drives bigger than 1 gig.
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Gary R. Utter
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(UTTER, 21906, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Well, I've heard rumours that the RamFAST might have problems with
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""""" larger drives but I'm currently using a Quantum 1.2 GB hard drive
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on my IIgs.
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9 ProDOS partitions (32 MB each) and 1 HFS partition (approximately 780
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MB).
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I haven't had any problems that I can attribute to using this large drive
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on a RamFAST (v3.01f ROM). <Knock on wood>
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Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
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sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
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COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
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(JBLAKENEY, 21965, GO COM A2)
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JUICED.GS ERRATA AND USING SSL WITH LYNX Hey gang,
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I need to clarify a bit of information that was in the latest issue of
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Juiced.GS (March '99, Volume 4, Issue 1).
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In the Shareware Spotlight article on gsAIM, the author stated he was
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unable to access the AOL Instant Messenger sign-up page using Lynx, so
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users would need access to a graphical Web browser (Netscape Navigator,
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Explorer) to get an AIM account for use with their IIGS and gsAIM.
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It has been brought to my attention that the AIM sign-up page can indeed be
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accessed from any version of Lynx with support for secure sockets. If
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you're unsure that your ISP's version of Lynx is up-to-date enough to
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support secure sockets, don't hesitate to give it a try on the AIM page
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listed in the Juiced.GS article.
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My apologies for any confusion -- or any reluctance by users to try gsAIM
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-- that this may have caused.
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Juiced.GS
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http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
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(JUICEDGS, 21825, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Note that even in the latest version of Lynx, secure sockets
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""""" support is an optional install; sysadmins have to download a
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separate source package, merge it with the Lynx sources, then do the
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compile and install. Because of that, it's fairly uncommon to find an
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SSL-enabled version of Lynx.
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 21828, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Yeah, it's a shame that due to ridiculous US encryption law
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""""" (munition law, actually) it has to be such a runaround. It's really
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easy to do the SSL installation, especially if the ISP already has the
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ssleay package (many do.) You basically just replace a few files and change
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two lines in the makefile, which you have to modify anyway to get Lynx
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setup the way you like it.
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Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Fri Apr 02, 1999 11:10:07 am
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[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.0]
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"He was a man, all and all. I shall not look upon his like again."
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(TONYW1, 21842, GO COM A2)
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HARD DRIVE POWER SUPPLY BASICS FROM HAROLD AND TONY There are so many of
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" these, in differing
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physical configurations, capacities, etc. that it is almost impossible to
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track down an exact replacement for a failed one.
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That's the bad news.
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The good news: As long as you can find one that:
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1) Will physically fit the available space (may need mounting changes)
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2) Accepts the available input voltage
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3) Provides the needed output voltages and current
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It shouldn't be all that hard to manage to get it mounted and working.
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Note: One big problem I've run into many times with switching power
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supplies and hard drives (tape, CD, etc) is RF being radiated by the supply
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itself and messing up the operation of the device. When this is suspected
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it can often be dealt with by enclosing the supply in a piece of drafting
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mylar that has had aluminum foil glued to it's outer surface. Make this
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into a "tunnel" that wraps around the supply, but be CERTAIN that your
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modification still allows for proper airflow for cooling or the new supply
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WILL FAIL QUICKLY
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-Harold
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HdwrNut on EFNet and AIM
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Posted by ProTERM Mac Messenger
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The most damaging phrase in the language is: "It's always been done that
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way."
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(HAROLD_H, 22130, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Not necessarily 'cheap', but definitely under loaded. Think of it
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""""" as those times when you go up (or down) stairs blindly, perhaps
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your carrying something and you can't see down or whatever, and you get to
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the top and your still going up but the steps are done. Your foot goes up,
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and then wham, onto the floor and you nearly fall over if you did it
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'right'.
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The power supply is designed for a PC, and in fact there are some that will
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NOT work unless attached to a motherboard. Others will, but since all the
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voltages are not being used, they are 'climbing stairs' that are not there.
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Pushing a lawn mower as if it were going up a hill when in fact there is
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down hill and no grass. Two hard disks are nothing, the P/S is expecting a
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motherboard filled with cards using 4 different voltages. The hard disk
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uses two of them. So unless you have a lot of hard disks, that power supply
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is under loaded and could, not will, could die at a moments notice.
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Apple used two vendors for power supplies for the IIgs, Astec and Dynacomp.
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the Dynacomp, (Richardson, TX) supplies at first were failing due to under
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loading. A typical IIgs system had the 1MB RAM card and the floppy drive.
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So the power supply was not loaded enough. They had a rash of failures and
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figured out it was underloading and had to replace them all. Same thing as
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the 'cheap' mini tower power supply.
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(T_DIAZ, 22799, GO COM A2)
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COPY II+ 9.1--CHAOS OR COOL FOR FORKED FILES? 9.1 is okay, but some older
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" versions of C2+ do not
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understand forked files and will behave exactly as Joe has described it.
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I'm not sure which version of C2+ was the first to be able to deal
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appropriately with forked files, but it's best not to use any version other
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than the latest/last.
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Gary R. Utter
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(UTTER, 21915, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Copy II+ 9.1 is the first and only version to deal correctly with
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""""" forked files.
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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{<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net}
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{<http://www.sheppyware.net> http://www.sheppyware.net}
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(SHEPPY, 21922, GO COM A2)
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WHAT'S THE SPINDOWN ISSUE WITH THE ZIP DRIVE AND AHS? The same as the
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "sleep problem"
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that others have mentioned. Zip drives go into sleep mode when the disk has
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not been accessed for a certain amount of time (I think the default is 15
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minutes), causing the Zip disk to stop rotating. With an Apple SCSI card,
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this causes the volumes on a sleeping Zip to sometimes not be recognized
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when you go to access the disk again, as the standard driver does not wait
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long enough for the disk to spin back up. I'm not sure if the same thing
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happens with a RamFast.
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I also find that when I don't have a disk in the Zip drive, Finder windows
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sometimes don't draw initially (though they update fine when I scroll) and
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volume listings in Standard File dialogs rapidly refresh themselves, making
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it difficult to select things. Not a big deal once you get used to it, but
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it scared me at first -- I thought something was really wrong with my
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machine when all my Finder windows kept opening up blank!
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Others have mentioned that the Tulin floptical driver solves both these
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problems, and I've been meaning to get it for ages, but I haven't been
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using my real GS much lately, so it hasn't been a priority. Like I said, I
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just got used to the little quirks and tried to be careful about not
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letting the drive go to sleep. I haven't had any significant problems,
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though.
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-- Michael
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THIS PART DELPHI PLANNED *** NOTICE ***
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Delphi will be down Easter Sunday beginning 08:00 EDT for about an hour
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while the Delphi clock is reset for Daylight Saving time.
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Don't forget to reset your own clocks if you live in a time zone that
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switches to Daylight Saving Time. :)
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Chuck
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CHunk_S --- Your A2 Forum Host
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Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs
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(CHUNK_S, 21859, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> **************** NOTICE **************
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The Delphi engineering folks have installed some changes to the Forum
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message software so that the Text and Web sides can work better together.
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These changes should be mostly 'invisible', with the exception of one:
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When you post a message from the Text side, instead of it immediately being
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assigned a number, you will see the following message:
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> Response Message 1999999999 Stored.
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> (There is a short delay while the message is stored and a number is
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> assigned.)
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The message number is assigned within a couple of minutes. Until then, it
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is not available for reading.
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Apparently, the changes are being installed on a forum-by-forum basis, so
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you may not see the effect in all forums that you visit until all of them
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have been updated. They _are_ in effect here in A2 as of the date and time
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that this message is posted.
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Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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Try my off-line reader scripts for ANSITerm...
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They're OLRight!
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(Version 4.0 Coming Soon...)
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(DZAHNISER, 21863, GO COM A2)
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THIS PART THEY DIDN'T Well, as many of you have probably already found
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""""""""""""""""""""" out. Delphi's new software has been "burping" this
|
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weekend.
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We here in A2 got it today. My recent pass got 394 messages. Some of them
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were even triplicates. But, at least at this time, we aren't having the
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problems some other Forums have had. IE, Personal Law got hit twice. First
|
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time had 250+ messages (Saturday), and today (Sunday) 567 messages.
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What is happening, is that OLD messages are being picked up and reposted as
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NEW messages. The only thing we can do is to try to wade through them ...
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and PRAY that it doesn't happen again. :)
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But there is a bit of silver lining ... There has been a problem with the
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interface between Web and Text not "Following Thread". These latest passes
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have had all messages following the thread. Whee!
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Hang in there ... It will get better.
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(Why does this kind of thing always happen on the weekends?)
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Chuck
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CHunk_S --- Your A2 Forum Host
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Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs
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(CHUNK_S, 22831, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> For anyone who got 'burped' by Delphi:
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"""""
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One command that you can issue that can be extremely useful when entering a
|
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Forum for the first time, or if you haven't visited one for a long time, is
|
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the 'HIGH NEW' command. This resets your message pointers to the last 50
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|
messages in the Forum. When I got 'burped', I simply deleted the 452
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messages that I received, then on the next pass issued a 'HIGH NEW', and I
|
|
had far fewer messages to wade thru...
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This command is one that you SHOULD use prior to reading messages in any
|
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forum that you have not visited previously. It can save a lot of
|
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aggravation.
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Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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Try my off-line reader scripts for ANSITerm...
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They're OLRight!
|
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(Version 4.0 Coming Soon...)
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(DZAHNISER, 22853, GO COM A2)
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|
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>>>>> As you may all have gathered, the new 'feature' on Delphi is to
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""""" delay you seeing your messages for some hours after posting.
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|
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The changes do not affect COG directly, but if you have been used to seeing
|
|
your message replies in the captured message stream directly after posting
|
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them, you are going to be disappointed...
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If only we can get rid of all these people who read these Forums through
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the Web, we can get back to some decent response times! :)
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 5 Apr 1999 - 107 days till KFest '99
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
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Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
|
|
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
|
|
(EWANNOP, 21907, GO COM A2)
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|
|
>>>>> That turns out not to be the case.
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"""""
|
|
What you are seeing is a side effect. It's particularly annoying right now,
|
|
because the delays in the appearance of newly posted messages have been
|
|
substantial, but the installation process is in progress. Once they get
|
|
things fully installed and tuned, the delay should be down to a few
|
|
minutes.
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|
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|
That will probably still be long enough so that an off line reader doesn't
|
|
pick up your freshly posted messages, but I can't find any way to see that
|
|
as a problem.:)
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|
Gary R. Utter
|
|
(UTTER, 21916, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I sent a note to one of the Delphi engineering folks this morning.
|
|
""""" He opined that it may have been related to rebooting the VAXes from
|
|
the change to DST, and that he expects that it won't recur.
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|
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|
We'll just have to see how things go...
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|
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|
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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|
|
|
Try my off-line reader scripts for ANSITerm...
|
|
They're OLRight!
|
|
(Version 4.0 Coming Soon...)
|
|
(DZAHNISER, 21919, GO COM A2)
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|
|
>>>>> I checked back after posting this while still online. The time
|
|
""""" stamp was about 3 minutes after I logged on. If it was time-stamped
|
|
when the message number was assigned, that would make it about 2 minutes
|
|
from the time I sent it. Worst case would be about 12 minutes, which is
|
|
what was on the online clock when I came back in to check.
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Not bad in either case...
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|
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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|
|
|
Try my off-line reader scripts for ANSITerm...
|
|
They're OLRight!
|
|
(Version 4.0 Coming Soon...)
|
|
(DZAHNISER, 21926, GO COM A2)
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TROUBLESHOOTING TOUGH IIGS HARDWARE PROBLEMS On those IIgs's that just
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" seem to be awful crashy and
|
|
there is no reason that is particularly evident, what I usually do is
|
|
remove the whole thing from the case, sit the P/S next to the board, on the
|
|
table, one at time add non essential cards, (if any, Quickie, Grappler,
|
|
Sound, etc.) back into the system and if you can not duplicate a crash then
|
|
you fixed your problem. Actually, the better thing is to first run it
|
|
loaded, on the table. I find that a lot of times the case is to blame. The
|
|
FCC shield in the bottom rises just enough to interfere with the
|
|
motherboard.
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|
|
|
If you have a Zip/TWGS and a large RAM card then you other problem may also
|
|
be the power supply connector. If you notice subtle changes in the
|
|
intensity of the background/border colors (this is really evident on a
|
|
default color set) that means your grounding connector is becoming
|
|
corroded. Removing the P/S connector and scraping it, and retensioning the
|
|
pins will fix it. Hrmmmm.. Perhaps that's a mini KFest thing. .. Power
|
|
Supply / Monitor adjustment. (The monitor thing scares me though, it's too
|
|
touchy a subject for those not in the know) We'll see.
|
|
|
|
In cases of P/S connector trouble I also bend the pins on the motherboard
|
|
at very slight angles to the left and right so when the connector is
|
|
replaced different tension points form. Also, a Papermate pen shoved at an
|
|
angle so that the other end rests under the wire harness coming out of the
|
|
P/S and the non-writing end wedged between the P/S and the connector
|
|
pushing on it.
|
|
|
|
That will need a picture description I'm sure.
|
|
|
|
Tony
|
|
(T_DIAZ, 21896, GO COM A2)
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|
|
|
CAN YOU SET TOP AND BOTTOM MARGINS IN THE AWGS WORD PROCESSOR? If memory
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" serves,
|
|
the way to alter top and bottom margins in the word processor is to view
|
|
the header and footer of the page and add in an appropriate number of
|
|
carriage returns. Left and right margins are set in the ruler.
|
|
|
|
-Gareth
|
|
(GARETH, 22044, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Try inserting a header and footer with the desired number of blank
|
|
""""" lines. Other than this, there is no specific provision in AWGS to
|
|
set these margins.
|
|
|
|
Paul.
|
|
|
|
Paul Schultz
|
|
schultp@delphi.com
|
|
sent your way via Spectrum 2.2 and Crock O' Gold 3.0!
|
|
(SCHULTP, 22206, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
A TEMPLATE DTP TIP FROM THE JUICEDMEISTER Here's a nifty way to use
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" template files and not risk
|
|
overwriting them at some point in time ....
|
|
|
|
-- Create your template in whatever DTP program you choose (AWGS PL,
|
|
GraphicWriter III 2.x, Publish It! 4).
|
|
|
|
-- Go back to the Finder, locate the template file, highlight it, and
|
|
press Apple-I on the keyboard. When the file info window opens, lock the
|
|
file by checking the appropriate box.
|
|
|
|
The next time you open the template, a "Save As" won't be required in order
|
|
to preserve the template in its original form. Just do a normal "Save".
|
|
Because your template file is locked, the "Save As" dialog window will
|
|
appear. Pretty cool!
|
|
|
|
That's the way I handle all of my Juiced.GS templates. It saves me from
|
|
losing original template files, or having to recreate them, when I have
|
|
brain cramps during magazine production. :-)
|
|
|
|
Max Jones
|
|
Juiced.GS
|
|
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
|
|
(JUICEDGS, 22769, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
CABLE MODEM COBBLING Our local cable provider is in the process of adding
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""" Cable Modem access. I wonder if the AsanteTalk would
|
|
enable a IIGS to connect to the cable modem? (a cable modem requires an
|
|
ethernet card to talk to a computer).
|
|
|
|
I was considering getting cable modem access (for my wife's PC) but without
|
|
ethernet capability to talk to the cable modem with the IIGS, I would still
|
|
need to retain my current ISP for conventional modem capability for my
|
|
IIGS.
|
|
|
|
Any thoughts?
|
|
|
|
Mark Welte [Doc]
|
|
(WELTEM, 22117, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> It can give you file services and printer services with the
|
|
""""" appropriate software, but at this point it won't give you TCP/IP
|
|
services (meaning Marinetti). What you would need for that is (1) some way
|
|
of serving TCP/IP over MacIP (aka MacIPNetRouter) and (2) the mythical
|
|
MacIP Marinetti module.
|
|
|
|
What you -could- do, among other things, is use a Linux server for your
|
|
cable modem and serve SLIP or PPP out the serial port via a null modem
|
|
connect (I will have this set up sooner or later--actually, the Linux box
|
|
is set up, it's just a matter of getting the software and the null cable
|
|
set up right now).
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 22118, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> There was a great article in the last Juiced.GS on how to get the
|
|
""""" GS on a TCP/IP ethernet network (highly recommended to subscribe to
|
|
get interesting articles such as that). One solution not in the article is
|
|
to build a box based on the instructions on {<http://www.linuxrouter.org>
|
|
www.linuxrouter.org} (combined with info from the Juiced.GS article). It's
|
|
not trivial to set up, but looks very doable.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
(SISGEOFF, 22140, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
MORE ON ETHERNET TO LOCALTALK HARDWARE BRIDGING You are correct, the
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" power up of *all*
|
|
Ethernet to LocalTalk devices is very critical, every device that is
|
|
reliant on the bridge, on both sides needs to be there and ready so when
|
|
the device powers up it receives all net ID's from each and registers them
|
|
for each side of the network to see.
|
|
|
|
I am really amazed at how *little* phone calls I receive as a result of the
|
|
Ethernet to LocalTalk bridges we sell, while mainly Dayna, some Asante,
|
|
they all work the same.
|
|
|
|
Since these devices are really intended for LaserWriters, the 4 step
|
|
process for power up that I stick on top of each one shipped is:
|
|
|
|
In case of network problems, turn off the LaserWriter, unplug the
|
|
Etherprint, (and any other LocalTalk devices), Turn on the LaserWriter,
|
|
wait for it to become ready, plug in the Etherprint and wait 30 seconds. Go
|
|
to the Chooser and select the printer. Then leave it alone. :)
|
|
|
|
The Gatorbox CS is by far the best, (slim plastic tower, with a 'hole'
|
|
under it between it and the base) this one is completely self sufficient
|
|
and is compatible with every method and use of AppleTalk that I have ever
|
|
thrown at it. Works every time.
|
|
|
|
There are other devices available such as AsanteTalk, Dayna Etherprint,
|
|
Webster CC LT/Bridge and a few other less known such as Farallon
|
|
Etherbridge.
|
|
|
|
The IIgs can print with any of these devices, but will lock up ruthlessly
|
|
when Appleshare is accessed. It will even lock the Mac up if you are doing
|
|
just the right thing. :)
|
|
|
|
IIgs compatible choices, hardware wise are Farallon's EtherWave and the
|
|
Gatorbox CS, there are a few others but I can't think of the names right at
|
|
the moment. the Farallon EtherWave may exhibit a problem in that you will
|
|
have to cycle the power to the unit after a reboot. The EtherWave is for a
|
|
single computer solution, and each computer would require it's own
|
|
EtherWave. the Gatorbox and other likewise devices are for the entire
|
|
network. However an additional note on these devices, such as the Dayna
|
|
Etherprint, they will only route up to 2 or three, depending on firmware,
|
|
LocalTalk devices to an Ethernet network. You need to have the 'Plus' model
|
|
to get up to 8 devices on the LocalTalk side seeable by the Ethernet side.
|
|
The Etherprint will seek out and zero in on a printer first if it is
|
|
installed on the network with several other devices but the typical
|
|
installation is the Etherprint plugged into the hub and the printer plugged
|
|
into it with nothing else on the LocalTalk side. This is the least
|
|
problematic use. You can have up to 2 (or 3) IIgs, Mac Plus, SE, etc
|
|
computers w/o Ethernet on the LocalTalk side of these devices to access a
|
|
printer on the Ethernet side of the network, but the AppleShare services
|
|
still are a problem. I have been working with these on and off, but the
|
|
latter part of the beginning of the year was dedicated to a whole mess of
|
|
things I just had to get done, and have not had much time to do anything
|
|
else.
|
|
|
|
I have about 10 different hardware bridges, FastPath 4 and 5, Dayna,
|
|
Asante, Webster CC, Farallon, and a few others, everything does printers,
|
|
one or two of them work with genuine AppleShare servers but not with System
|
|
7 filesharing.
|
|
|
|
The whole thing is Networking Voodoo at it's best. Closely related to 'SCSI
|
|
Voodoo', but even worse. :)
|
|
|
|
I hope to, by KFest, have a whole mess of this worked out and possibly do a
|
|
session on this, but that wont be my main session, what that is, I don't
|
|
know yet, last years was really well received and it was planned on a whim,
|
|
a very last minute thing. When Richard was here, "Oh, I'll print this web
|
|
page and do this.. " Only to find out the HP Printer was going to EAT my
|
|
transparencies. That's ok.. Richard had a similar occurrence, so he must
|
|
have brought the curse with him. :) .. That night was a truly unique one.
|
|
Between train stations, getting people, confusing Kinko's with a very
|
|
simple request at 1:30AM (laminate these three pages, back to back, in this
|
|
order) so we don't crash our airplane for lack of checking the 'seat blets'
|
|
in the correct order on the check list. Oh what fun. We left at 5:30 AM
|
|
that morning from an airport 25 miles inland from the coast, where I
|
|
stashed the airplane the day before to get out from under the fog.
|
|
|
|
Tony
|
|
(T_DIAZ, 22810, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
YOU DON'T NEED TO READ THIS _The Lamp!_ is copyright Ryan M. Suenaga and
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""" is published independently of Syndicomm; it
|
|
does, however, draw the majority of its content (only with permission from
|
|
the original authors) from the A2 and A2Pro Forums on Delphi.
|
|
|
|
Current (as well as past) issues of _The Lamp!_ are available in the
|
|
IIScribe database on Delphi at GO CUS 11.
|
|
|
|
You can also obtain issues of _The Lamp!_ on disk from _Juiced.GS_ and
|
|
_Shareware Solutions II_. I have also granted Alltech Electronics a license
|
|
to distribute (and some other places I can't recall off the top of my
|
|
head).
|
|
|
|
Past issues are available at the ftp site trenco.gno.org as well as
|
|
http://lamp.sheppyware.net. These are at least one month old, if not older.
|
|
|
|
btw, this is probably a good time to mention (to all, not to Mack, as he
|
|
doesn't fit into this category): the best way to make sure I don't update
|
|
the webpage for _The Lamp!_ is to ask me about it, especially if in the
|
|
same communication there's something that also says "I don't get any other
|
|
Apple II publications." There is one thing that _The Lamp!_ is clearly
|
|
-not- intended to do, and that is to replace _Juiced.GS_, _SSII_, or any
|
|
other kind of Apple II publication, and there is nothing that will get me
|
|
to cease publication quicker than to hear that. Off my soapbox, I will try
|
|
to get the April issues into the IIScribe database tonight before I sleep.
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 22155, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
APPLE II SYSTEM SOFTWARE CHANGES ON APPLE'S FTP SITES Today Apple posted
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" a new Tech Info
|
|
Library article. Article #30959, "Macintosh Floppy Drives: Creating Apple
|
|
IIGS Start Up Floppy Disks Issue".
|
|
|
|
This article discusses problems using DiskCopy on the Mac to create
|
|
floppies of the System 6.0.1 disk images. In particular, manual-insert Mac
|
|
floppy drives are known to often produce unusable floppies. These drives
|
|
are the kind that don't grab the disk and suck it in when the disk is
|
|
half-inserted. You can usually tell you have one of these drives: if
|
|
there's an indentation into which your fingers can go to push the disk all
|
|
the way into the drive, it's probably manual insert. Likewise,
|
|
manual-insert drives often have a flap to keep dust out of the drive.
|
|
|
|
Apple recommends using an older Mac to create the disks (contact a local
|
|
Apple service provider for help finding one to use).
|
|
|
|
If one isn't available, they suggest transferring the files to a IIgs over
|
|
a network and using ShrinkIt 1.1 to make the disks. ShrinkIt 1.1 can be
|
|
found at {<http://asu.info.apple.com> http://asu.info.apple.com.} The Apple
|
|
IIgs disk images can be found at
|
|
{<http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n10078>
|
|
http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n10078.}
|
|
|
|
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
|
|
{<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net}
|
|
{<http://www.sheppyware.net> http://www.sheppyware.net}
|
|
(SHEPPY, 22159, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> It should be noted that 1.4 meg high density disks work fine
|
|
""""" between these manual insert drives and a IIgs with a high density
|
|
drive. I believe the problem is flaky 800k support with the drives and not
|
|
an issue with disk copy.
|
|
|
|
Geoff
|
|
(SISGEOFF, 22161, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< Yes, although Apple's article doesn't say that, that's the issue --
|
|
""""" Mac 1.4 MB floppy drives have had a long history of being unable to
|
|
reliably produce 800k disks that the IIgs will read.
|
|
|
|
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
|
|
{<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net}
|
|
{<http://www.sheppyware.net> http://www.sheppyware.net}
|
|
(SHEPPY, 22163, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> That's nice of them but did you also notice that they have removed
|
|
""""" all the BXY archives from their site? You can only get the .sea.bin
|
|
files which are DiskCopy files I believe.
|
|
|
|
This makes it impossible for me as a IIgs and IBM compatible user to
|
|
download the System Software for the IIgs. :/
|
|
|
|
Good thing I already have it and can get it from several other places
|
|
either on disk or as .BXY archives. :)
|
|
|
|
Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
|
|
--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
|
|
sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
|
|
COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
|
|
(JBLAKENEY, 22170, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> The DiskCopy files are still there. The ShrinkIt files appear to be
|
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""""" gone though. I'll be releasing ImageMaker 1.1 hopefully sometime
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before this month is over, then, sometime this summer or early in the fall,
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ImageMaker Deluxe, which will support creating disks from disk images. The
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upgrade from ImageMaker to ImageMaker Deluxe will be discounted for people
|
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that buy ImageMaker before ImageMaker Deluxe ships.
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ImageMaker Deluxe will be very useful for people that need to regurgitate
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the System 6 images from Apple, I hope.
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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{<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net}
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{<http://www.sheppyware.net> http://www.sheppyware.net}
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(SHEPPY, 22175, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> WRT the Tech Info Library article. Article #30959, "Macintosh
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""""" Floppy Drives: Creating Apple IIGS Start Up Floppy Disks Issue".
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What's particularly amusing is that a lot of us have known about this for
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quite some time, and I never myself, inquired to Apple about it, figuring
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they would just blow it off to user error.
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They addressed the issue, but it's not just an Apple II image problem, it's
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800K disk images in general.
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Up until the point of manual insert drives, Sony was the drive supplier for
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Apple 3.5" drives. Budget stalemates and competition forced Apple to look
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in other directions for drive sources. Since the dominant force is the PC
|
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market, all the drives in the marketplace are designed for MFM,
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(720K/1.44MB, 1/2MB 'unformatted'). These drives had to be modified to
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support Apple's own proprietary GCR format. 143K/400K/800K are all GCR. The
|
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Sony drives were designed with GCR in mind, the heads, mainly.
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If some of you may recall the "HFS Interchange Format" that was introduced
|
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around System 7 Pro, System 7.1.2, just about the time the first PowerMac's
|
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shipped. This was also about the same time as Apple was making a change to
|
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use other vendors drives. After no very long, HFS Interchange Format (a
|
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720K HFS volume) disappeared nearly as fast as it appeared. A system
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release later, it was gone. To much, too fast, much more complicated than
|
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they envisioned to phase out the 800K, and GCR format all together.
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The drives just do not write GCR exactly the way the others do.
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Maybe it's all by the book, done per spec, but you know that, that doesn't
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|
necessarily mean it will work. Case in point, the BASIS 108, German Apple
|
|
II+ clone was cloned by the book, it was 101% compatible. So much in that
|
|
things did not work. The Franklin Ace 1000, the same way. The neat thing
|
|
about the Apple ][ design was that a lot of it was un-intentional,
|
|
characteristics of using circuits in ways never thought of when they were
|
|
designed. Double Hires is the best example, and most common. GCR is
|
|
another. Since only one vendor made the hardware it always worked.
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|
This problem (disks created by one not read by another) also existed in a
|
|
smaller degree with the AppleDisk 3.5" and the UniDisk 3.5". That was more
|
|
of an interleave issue, and a ProDOS 'patience' thing. ProDOS would give up
|
|
to easy, if the data it was 'waiting' for did not come in time.
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If you have a disk that does not read on the IIgs, format it first on the
|
|
IIgs, write the disk image to the disk after the disk has been formatted
|
|
once.
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Or if you are moving files to a IIgs from a Mac, make your transit disk an
|
|
HFS disk, again, format the disk on the IIgs if you have to.
|
|
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|
You should not write to ProDOS disks with a Mac, as *any* file will now
|
|
have a resource fork, EVEN IF IT DID NOT WHILE IT WAS ON THE MAC VOLUME.
|
|
Yes, you download a Shrinkit file on the Mac, unshrink it with Shrink II,
|
|
then write the files to a ProDOS disk, they now have a resource fork. If
|
|
these were ProDOS 8 files, they are no longer usable. If they were GS/OS
|
|
files, it's not as big of an issue, except that if the file did not have a
|
|
resource fork to begin with, now it does and you just lessened the mobility
|
|
of that file because now it can not be copied with a ProDOS 8 utility. Not
|
|
that, that should be a big problem, those with more experience can and do
|
|
use the P8 environment to move things around too, as they know what does
|
|
and does not have a resource fork.
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|
|
|
MacOS will NOT add resource forks to ProDOS files (non-resource forked
|
|
files) just at random, but only when it writes them to ProDOS disks. On MS
|
|
DOS disks, the Mac writes the file and the resource goes in a folder called
|
|
"RESOURCE.FRK" ..which means that the files do not get modified.
|
|
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|
Tony
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|
(T_DIAZ, 22676, GO COM A2)
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|
DELPHI DOT COMMANDS ON THE MESSAGE BOARDS Uh - the so-called
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 'dot-commands' have been around
|
|
for a long, long time.
|
|
|
|
If you start a line with a period, Delphi will try to interpret the first
|
|
couple of characters as a dot-command. I think from your note that you
|
|
started a line with .BXY, which would tell Delphi that you wanted the line
|
|
to be blank (.B = blank line).
|
|
|
|
There are a few dot-commands listed in the Delphi manual (dated 1994) that
|
|
I have. I suppose there is a list online somewhere, but I haven't run
|
|
across it.
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|
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
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|
|
|
Try my off-line reader scripts for ANSITerm...
|
|
They're OLRight!
|
|
(Version 4.0 Coming Soon...)
|
|
(DZAHNISER, 22698, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> I guess this would be a new feature I could ask Ewen to put into
|
|
""""" COG. Check to see if any line starts with a period and add a space
|
|
or something if it does.
|
|
|
|
I guess this is just the first time it has hit me and it is definitely the
|
|
first time I've seen a message here get messed up like that.
|
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|
|
Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
|
|
--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
|
|
sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
|
|
COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
|
|
(JBLAKENEY, 22772, GO COM A2)
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|
|
>>>>> I have noted the problem and will see what I can do...
|
|
"""""
|
|
But what if a dot command was deliberately and correctly added to a
|
|
message. You would not want that to be removed. I guess the best solution
|
|
would be just a warning as you queued the message, so you could go back and
|
|
correct it if needed...
|
|
|
|
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 22 Apr 1999 - 90 days till KFest '99
|
|
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
|
|
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
|
|
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
|
|
(EWANNOP, 22774, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< I would suggest instead that an alert be put up, because there are
|
|
""""" situations in which you might _want_ to use dot-commands.
|
|
|
|
For example:
|
|
|
|
> Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
|
|
> --------------+----------------------------------------------------+
|
|
> sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
|
|
> COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
|
|
|
|
Web browsers will probably show the above in a proportional font, instead
|
|
of the monospace font (Spectrum 8, most likely) that you used when
|
|
composing your 'signature'. It won't have the desired visual effect. To
|
|
preserve the formatting, a textsider would use two dot-commands: Just
|
|
before the text, you would use the '.pre' command, and after the text, if
|
|
you want to reset the note back to the default, you would use '.end pre'.
|
|
|
|
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
|
|
|
|
Try my off-line reader scripts for ANSITerm...
|
|
They're OLRight!
|
|
(Version 4.0 Coming Soon...)
|
|
(DZAHNISER, 22773, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> How many dot commands are there? If there aren't too many, maybe
|
|
""""" you could check for those commands and allow them, otherwise add
|
|
the space...
|
|
|
|
---
|
|
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
|
|
sheppy@sheppyware.net
|
|
http://www.sheppyware.net
|
|
(SHEPPY, 22775, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> From my archives, here are the listed dot commands:
|
|
"""""
|
|
----------ONLINE .DOT COMMANDS
|
|
|
|
All commands MUST be typed on a line by themselves in the first space of a
|
|
line unless otherwise indicated.
|
|
|
|
--| commands |------------| descriptions |-------------------------------
|
|
|
|
.blank # Insert # blank lines.
|
|
.b #
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.break Break text of next line to left margin set.
|
|
.br #
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.center "text" Center "text." Must be on same line as text.
|
|
.c "text"
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.end literal Ends literal text formatting. (cancels .lt) and
|
|
.el enables auto line wrap features.
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.indent # Indent text of next line # spaces.
|
|
.i #
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.left margin # Set left margin # spaces to right.
|
|
.lm #
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.lm # /annotate="text" Set left margin # spaces to right & insert
|
|
.lm # /a="text" "text" in left margin on each line.
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.literal Everything typed on lines following this command
|
|
.lt will be exactly how you type it in. Disables
|
|
forum auto line wrap features.
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.line wrap # Set line wrap at # spaces from left margin.
|
|
.lw # (does not seem to work properly at this time)
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.paragraph Inserts single blank line for new paragraph.
|
|
.p
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.page Pauses text display with a "more?" prompt.
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.page "text" Pauses text display with "text" replacing
|
|
the "more?" prompt.
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.pre Maintain formatting with monospaced font
|
|
.end pre End monospaced formatting
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.right margin # Set right margin # spaces from left.
|
|
.rm # (does not seem to work properly at this time)
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.wrap margin # This sets all lines after the first line to be
|
|
.wm # indented by the value indicated on all follow-
|
|
ing lines.
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
.! "text" Comment line, the "text" does not show during
|
|
text display in forum.
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
|
|
|
|
<Editors Note: These commands do NOT work in Email.>
|
|
|
|
I found these in my archives from when we first set up A2. I cannot vouch
|
|
for the accuracy of them, at this time, because of the many changes that
|
|
are going on. But, I offer them to this discussion. :)
|
|
|
|
Chuck
|
|
|
|
CHunk_S --- Your A2 Forum Host
|
|
|
|
Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs
|
|
(CHUNK_S, 22776, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
DEALING WITH PRODOS DISKS ON THE MAC AND WITH THE DOG If you partitioned
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" the Zip Disk on the
|
|
Mac, you ought to be able to mount the partitions using SCSI probe.
|
|
|
|
If you partitioned it on a II using a RamFAST, I think you have very little
|
|
chance of mounting them on the Mac.
|
|
|
|
I haven't used an Apple branded SCSI card for an Apple II in years, so
|
|
you'll have to research that on your own. . .
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 22266, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> To mount a ProDOS formatted disk, you need a good tool or your name
|
|
""""" is Copperfield. Since only few can claim the latter one, you need a
|
|
good tool.
|
|
|
|
Basically, you need a tool such as FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit. This software
|
|
is a commercial package, but worth every cent.
|
|
|
|
We have prepared a tutorial that shows how disks can be mounted and shared
|
|
in Bernie. Please have a look at the online tutorial at:
|
|
|
|
{<http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/SupportCenter/>
|
|
http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/SupportCenter/}
|
|
|
|
(requires a frames-enabled browser)
|
|
|
|
Also, if you have problems with having AppleWorks recognize a disk image
|
|
that _did_ mount properly in Bernie, make sure the option "Low-Level Disk
|
|
Support" Setup menu) is disabled, i.e. does not have a checkmark.
|
|
|
|
regards,
|
|
henrik
|
|
(GUDATH, 22325, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Once a Zip appeared on the Mac desktop, Bernie will eat it happily.
|
|
""""" From that point of view - whatever is required for mounting a
|
|
ProDOS zip on the Mac does also apply for Bernie and vice versa.
|
|
|
|
Just as a reminder, our "Dr. Magic" Ryan described in The Lamp (Dec 98
|
|
issue) how to mount Zips on RAMfastened IIs and Macs (and dogs). The basic
|
|
trick is to teach Macs to mount them (by letting them initialize the media)
|
|
and have the II deal with it as the latter seems more flexible in terms of
|
|
partitioning.
|
|
|
|
For a yet unknown reason Ryan gave permission to repost that article on the
|
|
Woof Woof Web, so in case the December issue of the Lamp is sitting on a
|
|
Zip you are unable to access, you'll find a copy in the dog's support
|
|
section.
|
|
|
|
Henrik Woof Gudat
|
|
(GUDATH, 22270, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Actually, I was able to make a Zip with multiple ProDOS partitions
|
|
""""" that all mounted on the Mac. It was pretty much just trial and
|
|
error (some hints from Ryan's article), but eventually I found that
|
|
initializing a Zip with the Zip Tools, then partitioning it with Hard Disk
|
|
Toolkit (PE), then moving the disk to the GS and doing volume copies of a
|
|
number of ProDOS partitions to the Zip partitions, resulted in all
|
|
partitions mounting when the disk was brought back to the Mac. This was
|
|
with an Apple HS SCSI card; I don't know if it would work the same with a
|
|
RamFast.
|
|
|
|
The trick, I found, was =not= to erase or format the partitions on the GS.
|
|
Doing that first always resulted in a disk that was unreadable by the Mac.
|
|
But for some reason, the volume copies worked. (You can safely trash all
|
|
the files after copying if you wanted a blank volume.) I think it had to do
|
|
with the type of the partition not being changed from HFS to ProDOS in the
|
|
partition map. I don't know if the disks are safe to use in this form, but
|
|
it worked for transferring volumes over to make disk images for Bernie. (Of
|
|
course, a few days later, Sheppy released his ImageMaker program and made
|
|
all my work obsolete! :-)
|
|
|
|
-- Michael
|
|
(SAR, 22313, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< As well as my article. I now recommend ImageMaker as -the- way to
|
|
""""" move IIgs disks over to Bernie. . .
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 22319, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
SO, HOW DO I REACH SHREVE SYSTEMS?
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
|
|
Shreve Systems
|
|
1200 Marshall Street
|
|
Shreveport LA 71101
|
|
|
|
1-800-227-3971 to order
|
|
(318) 424-9777 International
|
|
(318) 424-9771 Fax
|
|
|
|
Keep in mind: they have no concept of time zones. . .
|
|
|
|
-
|
|
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
|
|
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
|
|
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
|
|
(RSUENAGA, 22882, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
DO YOU REMEMBER A2-CENTRAL? Hmmm...I guess I never promoted on my web
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""" site the availability of the
|
|
A2-Central-On-Disk collection, in part, because if anyone ordered it, it'd
|
|
mean that I'd have to copy a massive amount of disks, but...
|
|
|
|
Subscribers to SSII who might be interested in that collection, the details
|
|
can be found in the "Such A Deal" column in Volume 3, Issue 5.
|
|
|
|
Because of royalties paid to Tom Weishaar on each sale, my price can never
|
|
approach what Charlie is offering his complete set for...so, this is really
|
|
just a reminder that the complete A2/Resource Central collection is still
|
|
available from Shareware Solutions II. Along with many of the other
|
|
Resource Central materials; the other collections _are_ detailed at
|
|
http://www.concentric.net/~joko
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 22929, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
DIFFERENT FONTS WITH APPLEWORKS Actually, you can use almost any font
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" size you want with AppleWorks, if your
|
|
printer can handle them. Years ago, I wrote an article for NAUG about
|
|
downloading softfonts to a laser printer and then choosing those fonts from
|
|
AW. It does take some getting used to, and the ratio you think you're
|
|
getting isn't exact (actually, they print, if memory serves, about 4x
|
|
smaller than you'd expect, so you need larger fonts), AND you have to play
|
|
around with margins and spacing, but it can turn out good quality printing.
|
|
|
|
There was, and I thought I put it up in the library here, a font downloader
|
|
program that would take any GS font and load it to a HP-compatible laser
|
|
printer. The program came both in an 8-bit format (for which you also need
|
|
to use the Beagle.Bros Triple Dump) or as a GS/OS NDA. The program is/was
|
|
shareware; I haven't been in contact with the author for a while to see if
|
|
he's even in the same location (John Majka). If it's not in the library,
|
|
I'll get it there soon. :)
|
|
|
|
Later...........Howard
|
|
(HKATZ, 22951, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RUMOR MILL
|
|
""""""""""
|
|
|
|
SSII REVEALS HEWLETT PACKARD ALTERNATIVE If anyone here is thinking about
|
|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" buying a DeskJet in the next
|
|
couple of days, DON'T!
|
|
|
|
Please wait until after the next issue of Shareware Solutions II arrives,
|
|
as I have uncovered an amazing bit of (money saving) information that
|
|
Hewlett-Packard really doesn't want you (or anyone else) to know about. My
|
|
"scoop" is so monumental that not even the big mainstream computer
|
|
magazines know what Shareware Solutions II readers will soon know.
|
|
|
|
I knew that I stumbled onto a story that would save Apple II owners some
|
|
money, and I certainly wasn't going to let HP's denials stop me from
|
|
uncovering the entire story.
|
|
|
|
That story will be arriving in subscriber's mailboxes very soon.
|
|
|
|
Actually, the article you'll read contains just factual information, and
|
|
says not a word about Joe the Investigative Reporter ;-)
|
|
|
|
After every one has had a chance to read it, I'd love to tell you the
|
|
entire story. I'd have to use a lot of journalistic cliches, I imagine,
|
|
such as "HP's PR department refused to return phone calls" and "HP's
|
|
corporate operator denied that such a department existed" and of course,
|
|
I'd have to mention "the HP representative who spoke only after his
|
|
anonymity was assured."
|
|
|
|
In any case, Shareware Solutions II will be going into the mail before the
|
|
week is over.
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 22197, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
<<<<< I thought that I had a 'scoop,' but now I know it...
|
|
"""""
|
|
I just received an e-mail from an SSII subscriber who also happens to be a
|
|
distributor for that printer, and until he read SSII, he had absolutely no
|
|
idea ;-)
|
|
|
|
That warmed my heart.
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 22964, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
|
|
SSII CHAT GOES FROM MULTI-SYSTEM TO MONO-SYSTEM Apple IIGS owners will
|
|
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" soon have one more reason
|
|
to celebrate.
|
|
|
|
Find out all about it at the next Monday (4/26/99) multi-system chat, where
|
|
some special guests will tell you all about it.
|
|
|
|
Anyone and everyone who has the ability to read this message will be
|
|
interested in the software that our guests plan to announce on Monday
|
|
night.
|
|
|
|
Joe Kohn
|
|
http://www.concentric.net/~joko
|
|
(JOE_KOHN, 22339, GO COM A2)
|
|
|
|
>>>>> Don't count on it being multi-system. I found today that I couldn't
|
|
""""" get past the main menu of the A2 area on Genie. No Roundtable, no
|
|
library, no conference.
|
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Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 23 Apr 99 7:55:58 pm
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cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v3.0
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KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 89 days till KFest
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Using Marinetti 2.0 - Thank you, Richard.
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(CKNOBLO, 22341, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< I've also been unable to get past Genie's A2 menu. But, I
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""""" understand that the problem has been reported to Genie, and
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hopefully, they'll fix it soon.
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In any case, I think I can safely say that it's the IIGS folks here on
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Delphi who will be the most excited about the news that the special guests
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will broadcast on Monday night.
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Coincidentally, I'll be picking up the completed SSII newsletter, V4, #3,
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sometime on Monday. As pleased as I am with this latest issue, SSII is not
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the cause for celebration on Monday ;-)
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There's some new software coming real soon now, but I'll let the guests
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tell you all about it. On Monday night.
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Joe Kohn
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(JOE_KOHN, 22349, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< The Monday night multi-system chat wasn't really a multi-system
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""""" chat as Genie's A2 is currently missing-in-action, but it was great
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nonetheless. At one point, we had 20 people in attendance.
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The special guests were Ewen Wannop and Geoff Weiss, and they were pleased
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to announce that Spectrum Internet Suite v1.1 is completed, and on the
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brink of shipping.
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For those who already own SIS v1.0, the update price is only $15.
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The new feature list is quite extensive, so I'll just mention one new
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option that I know you'll like...SIS v1.1 now works from Delphi.
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To help commemorate this momentous news, Cindy Adams also announced that
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Sir Ewen Wannop will be the guest of (dis)honor at the Kfest 99 Roast
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;-)
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Joe Kohn
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http://www.concentric.net/~joko
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(JOE_KOHN, 22860, GO COM A2)
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A2'S THOUGHTS ON NEW FSTS At this point, if a new FST were ever to see
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""""""""""""""""""""""""" the light of day it would probably be
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reasonable to base it on a disassembled ProDOS FST. But, change the
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pertinent parameters you have mentioned. Same basic structure but bigger in
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a sense. Obviously, it would not be backwards compatible.
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I believe that Brutal Deluxe currently has the ProDOS FST disassembled.
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They posted to this effect in the past year on csa2. Perhaps this could be
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a good launching point.
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Paul.
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Paul Schultz
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schultp@delphi.com
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sent your way via Spectrum 2.2 and Crock O' Gold 3.0!
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(SCHULTP, 22204, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< The drawback with HFS is that it is so darn complex compared to the
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""""" ProDOS file system and the MS-DOS file system. Disassembling this
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FST and making sense of it would be VERY time consuming compared to using a
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ProDOS FST disassembly as a base. There are still IIgs programmers around
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who are VERY well acquainted with the design and underpinnings of ProDOS.
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Paul.
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Paul Schultz
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schultp@delphi.com
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sent your way via Spectrum 2.2 and Crock O' Gold 3.0!
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(SCHULTP, 22205, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Probably the best way to do this would be to increase the maximum
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""""" number of blocks in a filesystem. It's currently 65536, but adding
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another byte to the block number would bump this up to 16777216. This would
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allow for filesystems of up to 8GB while keeping the block size at 512
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bytes. (Yes, I know that bigger drives than that are already on the market,
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but what are the odds that you'll ever hook one of those to a II?)
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-=IIGS=- Scott Alfter ( {<mailto:salfter@delphi.com> salfter@delphi.com})
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{<http://people.delphi.com/salfter> http://people.delphi.com/salfter}
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(SALFTER, 22669, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> It wouldn't have to be backwards compatible if it were written as a
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""""" separate FST. However, if we can make it close enough to ProDOS we
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might be able to get away with booting from this new file system as well.
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Even if we can't boot from it, I can live with one or more ProDOS
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partitions for my boot partition and 8 bit programs. :-)
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Now that you mention it, I may have captured a post to usenet a while back
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that was the disassembly of an FST. I'll have to look through my message
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archives again.
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Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
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--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
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sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
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COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
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(JBLAKENEY, 22685, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Also, keep in mind that the total number of blocks is per partition
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""""" and not per drive. Being able to access 8 GB volumes with a
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RamFAST, means you could have up to 12 partitions that are each 8 GB which
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works out to 96 GB of accessible drive space. Even more with the Apple SCSI
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cards.
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No need to worry about the big drives that are out there right now. :-)
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Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
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--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
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sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
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COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
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(JBLAKENEY, 22686, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Doing what you suggest would be nice, and is doable in theory, but
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""""" since we don't have any information on how to write an FST, it's
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not very practical in reality. Patching the ProDOS FST to do it would be
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very hard (if not impossible), because structures on the disk would have to
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be resized, which changes a lot inside the code.
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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{<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net}
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{<http://www.sheppyware.net> http://www.sheppyware.net}
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(SHEPPY, 22688, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> If I may add my 2 cents to this talk of FSTs...
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"""""
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Although GS/OS is better designed (IMO) than MacOS or WindowsXX, FSTs are,
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shall we say, a little too intimate with a specific version of GS/OS.
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Hacking the ProDOS FST would be stupid in the same way that windows 95's
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hack of FAT to support long file names is stupid. Quite frankly, we're
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lucky that ProDOS could be hacked to support lower case letters.
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Using a newly designed unix-ish filesystem would be much better (because of
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the simplicity and they're known to work). Adding a boot block is rather
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trivial. The real problem is understanding the intricate details of how an
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FST works. Having a disassembly of GS/OS and the ProDOS FST would help,
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but without insider knowledge from (ex)Apple employees, a new FST is
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probably a pipe dream.
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(KWS, 22705, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> This discussion is probably best moved to A2Pro, however....I'm
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""""" never one to ignore a good topic. :-)
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Obviously there are some reasons for updating the ProDOS filing structure
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to support larger hard drives, but the project would have to be done for
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the love of it, because I think most people would be using HFS, which is
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good enough for most uses on an Apple IIgs.
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As for the actual implementation, reverse engineering the FST is not the
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way to go about it. The first step is sitting down in front of a hard copy
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of the ProDOS file structure, and designing on paper the new architecture.
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Once this is complete, you would move on to working out how to implement
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the changes, whether that me by modifying the FST or whatever.
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Any project which starts by disassembling the FST is fooling itself into
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thinking it is redesigning ProDOS when in reality it is a project to
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reverse engineer the FSTs. And from a standpoint of writing new FSTs, I
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think you'll find that for the most part this is not a straightforward
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thing to do. FSTs are NOT as standard in calling interface as you would
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imagine them to be.
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Regards,
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Richard
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(RICHARD_B, 22906, GO COM A2)
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SHEPPY ON THE APPLE (NOT PENTIUM) /// The /// was a great machine that
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" was shipped about three months
|
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before it was really ready for prime time.
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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{<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net}
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{<http://www.sheppyware.net> http://www.sheppyware.net}
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(SHEPPY, 21964, GO COM A2)
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PUBLIC POSTINGS
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"""""""""""""""
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NEWLY FOUND LOST CLASSICS The files have already started to hit the A2
|
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""""""""""""""""""""""""" Database, so...
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMPORTANT DATABASE ANNOUNCEMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In recent months, Howard Katz of the A2 staff has been working tirelessly
|
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to contact software publishers and authors for permission to reclassify
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Apple II software from commercial to freeware or public domain status. His
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efforts have begun to pay off! Howard recently received confirmation from
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Scantron Quality Computers that the entire line of software formerly
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published by SQC under the Q Labs label is now reclassified as "Freeware".
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The Q Labs titles represent some of the finest software published for the
|
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Apple II market. These titles have already started appearing in the A2
|
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database here on Delphi, with more on the way! For websiders, we'll try to
|
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get them uploaded to public ftp archives - take a look, for example, at
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ftp://trenco.gno.org/pub/apple2/companies/qlabs.
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And - if that were not enough, look for more -significant- Apple II
|
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software to be announced as reclassified in the very near future.
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Stay tuned to Delphi A2 as this project bears more fruit...
|
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don V. Zahniser
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A2 Forum Archivist
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(DZAHNISER, 22918, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Howard really does deserve our community's heart-felt thanks for
|
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""""" his efforts. Otherwise, many of us, especially newcomers to our
|
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community, would only know about these "little gems" through old ads in
|
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magazines and other's comments.
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Howard has continued in the spirit of the "Lost Classics" project that was
|
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started on our other home/site. Thanks to him they will now, not disappear,
|
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but continue to be used.
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Again, congratulations, Howard ... and ::MEGA-HUGS::
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"Apple II Forever!"
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Chuck
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CHunk_S --- Your A2 Forum Host
|
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|
Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs
|
|
(CHUNK_S, 22924, GO COM A2)
|
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>>>>> Actually, I'm doing this for selfish reasons - the more software I
|
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""""" can get available to Apple II users thru legitimate channels, the
|
|
longer I can keep my Apple //e a fun and productive computer. :)
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|
(BTW--all you ProSel users out there - if you're using it to launch your
|
|
programs from your hard drive, check out EasyDrive's interface. :) )
|
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Later...........Howard
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(HKATZ, 22952, GO COM A2)
|
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>>>>> There's more on the way, but the titles we've gotten ready and
|
|
""""" released for public consumption are:
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SixPack
|
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SignatureGS (HD and 3.5" versions) plus the sigma patch for it
|
|
EasyDrive (suite of software)
|
|
Repairworks
|
|
QDrive
|
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QRam
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A few others are forthcoming - just either haven't been uploaded or
|
|
released yet.
|
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Later............Howard
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(HKATZ, 22963, GO COM A2)
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NEW ONLINE HOME FOR GERMAN HARDWARE The ///SHH Systeme web site is now at
|
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" a new address:
|
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{<http://www.wbwip.com/shh/> http://www.wbwip.com/shh/}
|
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|
|
The old address will now automatically zap you to the new one.
|
|
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|
///SHH Systeme products, sales & support information can be found on this
|
|
web site, supporting Apple II peripheral interface hardware:
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|
* FaST506 hard disk controller (out of production, but supported)
|
|
* Turbo IDE Card hard disk controller
|
|
* MicroDrive Card hard disk controller
|
|
* MicroDrive/Turbo Card hard disk controller
|
|
* BlueDisk Card floppy disk controller
|
|
* Transwarp GS 32K cache ("second source")
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|
{<http://www0.delphi.com/powermac/> The POWER Forum }
|
|
David K.
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(DKERWOOD, 22024, GO COM A2)
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CHUNK STOCKS UP ON HIGH SPEED 65C816'S I'm posting this here, since this
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|
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" is where discussion has been about
|
|
getting the faster Western Design W65816S8PL-14's for accelerators.
|
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|
|
I have 15 of these beauties for sale. I am pricing them at $15-US or
|
|
$20CDN. This includes postage, packaging, and insurance. Money orders are
|
|
preferred, please.
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|
Please send me email here on Delphi. I will then email you with my address.
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Chuck
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CHunk_S --- Your A2 Forum Host
|
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Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs
|
|
(CHUNK_S, 22100, GO COM A2)
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KFEST BLATANT PLUG FOR THE MASSES Hey gang,
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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Less than two weeks remain before the Kfest '99 Early Bird registration
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deadline. If you have not yet registered, now is the time to do so in order
|
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to take advantage of the savings this special offer will bring you.
|
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Things are looking VERY good for Kfest '99. Registrations are strong, and
|
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planning is under way to make this the best Kfest ever. We've got some
|
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great plans for this event, and we'd like for all of you to join us in
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Kansas City to celebrate the Apple II community and learn more about these
|
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computers we love.
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We are reposting, for your convenience, the Kfest '99 Announcement, Rates
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and Registration Form below.
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( ) ( ) ____________________________________________
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| | / / ( _____________________________'99____)
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| |/ / | | II Infinitum!!
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(______) (________) (_______) (__________) (_________) |___|
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Experience The Magic!!
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When: July 21-25, 1999
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Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri
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+++
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KFest is back ... and it's never been more affordable!
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Check out these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening
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(dinner) on July 21, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 25.
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(Saturday evening dinner not included. That's Kfesters' Night Out On The
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Town!)
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+++ Early Bird rates (good if you register BEFORE April 15) +++
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Double room: $225
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Single room: $275
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Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $175
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Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $175
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+++ Regular Attendee rates (if you register AFTER April 15) +++
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Double room: $275
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Single room: $325
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Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $225
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Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $225
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Those cool Kfest T-shirts will also be available again this year for $15,
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but ONLY if you order in advance. (See registration form below.)
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+++ Special Early Arrivals rate +++
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For the very first time, Kfest will start early for those who'd like to
|
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arrive a little sooner. Avila dorms will be available for occupancy on
|
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Tuesday night for a small extra fee. No formal activities will be planned,
|
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although the day may include the annual trek to KC Masterpiece Restaurant
|
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for some of that world-famous Kansas City barbecue!
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The rate for early arrivals (Tuesday night dorm room only):
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Double room: $25
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Single room: $33
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For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-in
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will be on from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday.
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Current plans call for formal Kfest sessions to begin with dinner in the
|
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Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed by
|
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the traditional opening event, the Kfest Keynote Address. We've got some
|
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great plans for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!
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Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and
|
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hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair
|
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slated for Saturday afternoon.
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Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner
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through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.
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On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine
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restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of Kfesters at Jess &
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Jim's Steak House or other local favorites.
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All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal
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guardian.
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***
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KFest this year is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers
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of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh.
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If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can
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find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:
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kfest-help@kfest.org
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.. or visit the Kfest World Wide Web page at:
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http://www.kfest.org
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If you're thinking about attending Kfest '99, please join the Kfest
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To subscribe to the Kfest Information Mailing List, send email to
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majordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text:
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subscribe kfest
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You will receive a confirmation email. In order to be signed up for the
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list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions
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dictate. You will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.
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KFest '99 Registration Form
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View and print this document using 9-point Monaco font (ProTERM default) or
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any other monospaced font such as Courier, CoPilot or Spectrum.
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Register for Kfest '99
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By phone, fax or email: Credit card number
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<> Complete this form and select one option:
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Send this form via email to: <kfest@intrec.com>
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<> By postal mail: Credit card, check or money order.
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Print, fill out, and mail this form with payment.
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Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds.
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(JUICEDGS, 21882, GO COM A2)
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SHEPPY UPDATES IMAGEMAKER TO 1.1 ImageMaker 1.1 has just been released.
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" You can get it at
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{<http://www.sheppyware.net/software/imagemaker_gs/>
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http://www.sheppyware.net/software/imagemaker_gs/.}
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The new version supports creating DiskCopy 6 and "raw" disk images,
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supports creating images from disks that GS/OS won't mount (like custom OS
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disks, such as those demos), and fixes a couple of minor bugs.
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In addition, there's an option to prevent the addition of Mac filetype and
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creator information (adding these puts a resource fork on the created
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files, and sometimes you don't want one).
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Current ImageMaker owners can use the new version without any upgrade fee.
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If you don't already own this valuable utility, you can register it for
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just US $5 at {<http://order.kagi.com/?QGC> http://order.kagi.com/?QGC.}
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---
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 22834, GO COM A2)
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SPECIAL OFFER FROM SHEPPY: FREE SHEPPYWARE FOR LIFE? I'm making an
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" unusual special
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offer:
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RSA, the company that provides the standard security encryption protocol
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used most frequently on the Internet, is sponsoring a contest, known as the
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RC5 cracking contest, to test its protocol. This contest is participated in
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by downloading a piece of software that attempts to break the code.
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Participants download the software, install it, and run it. It receives
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assignments from a central computer, and works on crunching that data. When
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it's done, it sends its results back to the central computer and obtains
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another block to work on.
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To make things more interesting, teams have been established to add to the
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fun and competitiveness. The team that cracks the code wins a cash prize,
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and the individual that cracks the code gets a $1000 cash prize. You can
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read specific information about this at {<http://www.distributed.net>
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http://www.distributed.net.} Teams are ranked against each other, and every
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night you can see the latest rankings.
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I have my own team (Team SheppyWare), which has a few members
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participating. You can see my team's current score at
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{<http://rc5stats.distributed.net /tmsummary.idc?TM=4034>
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http://rc5stats.distributed.net/tmsummary.idc?TM=4034.}
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We've done pretty well so far, advancing to about 785th place (out of some
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6,000 teams), but we've finally hit a brick wall. We don't have enough
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participants to gain in the rankings. So that brings me to the special
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offer:
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Join my RC5 team, and you could win free SheppyWare for life ("SheppyWare"
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is defined as freeware or shareware products released by Eric Shepherd for
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any platform, and any commercial software released for the Apple II or IIgs
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computer by Eric Shepherd; this does not imply that you'll receive refunds
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for products already purchased (you won't), and I reserve the right to
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cancel the free software if I go bankrupt or something unpleasant like
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that).
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The three participants in Team SheppyWare (not including members of my test
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team, who aren't eligible) that have the highest number of contributed
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blocks when the contest ends (in other words, when it's announced by RSA
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that the code has been broken) will receive the free SheppyWare for life.
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The steps involved in joining my team are:
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1. Go to {<http://rc5.distributed.net> http://rc5.distributed.net} and
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download the client software for your computer. You'll need a PC, Mac,
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or the like (there's no Apple II software).
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2. Install and configure the software. Be sure to set your email address.
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3. Run the software.
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4. Once you've submitted your first batch of blocks, you can join my team.
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Go to the Team SheppyWare status link listed above
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(http://rc5stats.distributed.net/tmsummary.idc?TM=4034) and then use the
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"Participant Search" at the top of the page to find yourself; enter your
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email address and click Search. Then click the "Email me my password"
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button to get your password. Then you can go to the following link to
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join the team; enter your email address as the username and your
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password:
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{<http://stats.distributed.net/pjointeam.php3?team=4034>
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http://stats.distributed.net/pjointeam.php3?team=4034.}
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All your blocks (including those you've already submitted) will then be
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assigned to the team, starting with the next nightly stats update.
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You can get more information from rc5.distributed.net, and these links are
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duplicated on my main web site at {<http://www.sheppyware.net>
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http://www.sheppyware.net.}
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You can use as many computers as you want (and have access to). You don't
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need a full-time Internet connection (PPP is fine). If you need help
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getting joined up, feel free to ask. Also, feel free to ask if you have
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questions about my prize offer.
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---
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 22940, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< You can get more information on joining RC5 teams (a step-by-step
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""""" guide, in fact) at {<http://rc5.distributed.net/FAQ/team.html>
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http://rc5.distributed.net/FAQ/team.html.}
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---
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 22941, GO COM A2)
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<<<<< I should point out that the RC5 software only uses processor time
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""""" you're not using; as a general rule you rarely notice any
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significant performance impact while it's running. It just sits there
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chugging away in the background when your computer would otherwise be idle.
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---
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 22957, GO COM A2)
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SSII MOVES TO A NEW ONLINE HOME Although it'll probably take me a while
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" to get fully moved in, I have a new ISP.
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The new e-mail address is joko@concentric.net and the URL for the Shareware
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Solutions II web site is www.concentric.net/~joko
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I'll maintain the address at crl.com long enough for everyone to memorize
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the new e-mail address and URL.
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Joe Kohn
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(JOE_KOHN, 22166, GO COM A2)
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SSII VOLUME 4, ISSUE 3--IN YOUR MAILBOX Volume 4, Issue 3
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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The latest issue of the Shareware Solutions II newsletter is currently
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being mailed to subscribers world-wide. In this 20 page issue, subscribers
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will read about:
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DeskJet Alert - A discussion about why some DeskJets won't work on the
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Apple II, and a description of how you can easily find out if any
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particular DeskJet is Apple II compatible. The article also answers the
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enigma: "The least expensive HP DeskJet available isn't a DeskJet and it's
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not from HP, or is it?"
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Bernie ][ The Printer - Or, Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About
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Printing With Bernie. Woof, woof.
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Y2K and the Apple II - A description of the few Y2K problems that will
|
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exist for Apple II users, with information about the wonderfully effective
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Y2K solutions available from Bev Cadieux of TEXAS II.
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ProSel - A historical over-view of ProSel, along with a description of its
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most powerful and useful features.
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In addition, subscribers will learn about some amusing Easter Eggs in
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Spectrum and GraphicWriter III, and they'll learn how to become invincible
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while playing Space Fox. They'll also learn about more than a dozen newly
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reclassified-as-freeware Apple II programs. There are other news items
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about KansasFest 99, Inits that can cause havoc on your IIGS, and readers
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are offered at least 6 new freeware/shareware disks.
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Shareware Solutions II is available by subscription only.
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Please visit http://www.concentric.net/~joko or http://www.crl.com/~joko
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for additional information.
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Joe Kohn
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(JOE_KOHN, 22857, GO COM A2)
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SPECTRUM INTERNET SUITE 1.1 RELEASED To purchase SIS 1.1 or any other
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"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Seven Hills product, please use any
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of the following methods:
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Fax: 904-575-2015, anytime
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Florida residents add 7% tax.
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Geoff
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(SISGEOFF, 22869, GO COM A2)
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CHANGES AT SEVEN HILLS Seven Hills have changed their name, and are in
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"""""""""""""""""""""" the process of changing their web site.
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Please point your browsers at <http://www.myesource.com> for the main page,
|
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or <http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills> to get directly to the Seven Hills
|
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Software section.
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Send email to <email@myesource.com>, sales enquiries to
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<sales@myesource.com> and for support contact <support@myesource.com>
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 30 Apr 1999 - 82 days till KFest '99
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
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Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
|
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(EWANNOP, 22949, GO COM A2)
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BEST OF THE BEST
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""""""""""""""""
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22871 27-APR 22:56 Hardware Hacker
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IIGS error (Re: Msg 22065)
|
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From: MBROUI11ETTE To: DZAHNISER
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..To the tune of 'My Favorite Things" from the "Sound of Music"
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Micro-cracks in the solder of connections,
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Broken wires inside molded connectors,
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Heat-damaged insulation, leakin' voltage.
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These are the things that make young techies age!
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When the 'dead' wire 'bites',
|
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after the probe says safe,
|
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with no voltage, signal, or poll.
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I remember the mystical 'repair' of some things,
|
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that I never touched,
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at all!
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__,2__ Mike Brouillette
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/ _ _\ "Alas, poor Apple II of yore. I knew it well, & hoarded."
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\(o)m(_, Delivered via Spectrum v2.1 & Crock 'O Gold v2.5
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`boood Tue 27 Apr 99 1:13:10 pm
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[EOA]
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[A2P]------------------------------
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A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |
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-----------------------------------
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Checking out A2PRO on Delphi
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
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[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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ON IIGS GRAPHICS The Apple IIGS only has one screen buffer, at least
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"""""""""""""""" there is only one for the SHR screen. The hardware
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support isn't there for double-buffering.
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As a result, you basically have to use other techniques for animating.
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These center around reducing the amount of information you actually change,
|
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changing it as fast as possible, and timing the changes with the vertical
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blanking interrupt to reduce or eliminate tearing.
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There are some pretty good FAQs floating around. If you're interested, some
|
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of the graphics folks can doubtless point you to them. My specialty wasn't
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graphics, though. :)
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Mike Westerfield
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(BYTEWORKS, 2566, GO COM A2)
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>>>>> Well, the IIgs does have a double buffer of sorts. If you use the
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""""" shadow register correctly you will be able to modify screen memory
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while displaying something else. Regular screen memory is at $E1/2000 but
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the shadow screen memory is at $01/2000.
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However, my memory is kind of rusty on this point but I do believe there
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might be some problems trying to use the shadow register while running in a
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GS/OS program.
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I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will jump in eventually.
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Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
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--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
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sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
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COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
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(JBLAKENEY, 2567, GO COM A2PRO)
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<<<<< I had forgotten about the shadow register. It's not a true
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""""" double-buffer in the traditional sense, but I can see how you might
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use it almost the same way. Of course, it means you'll have to draw the
|
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changes twice per frame; with a true double-buffer like you have for the
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text and high-res screens you don't have to do that.
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Mike Westerfield
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(BYTEWORKS, 2569, GO COM A2PRO)
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>>>>> Wolf 3D uses the shadow register. It works like this...
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"""""
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Each pass through the game loop, shadowing is disabled. Then the various
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rendering functions are called:
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1. Render the walls.
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2. Render the floor.
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3. Render the ceiling.
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4. Render the sprites.
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Then shadowing is turned on, and a PEI-slamming function (different ones
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depending on the screen size setting) is used to copy the screen memory
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onto itself. This makes the updated screen visible.
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Then the score panel is updated. Finally, shadowing is disabled again.
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This gets pretty good speed. The lowest levels of the rendering are all
|
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done in assembly, but the preparatory work is in C.
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 2578, GO COM A2PRO)
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>>>>> Actually, using the shadow register acts pretty much the same as
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""""" using text screens or high-res screens pages 1 and 2. You write you
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screen data to $01/2000+ then turn on shadowing, the hardware then takes
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care of copying that data to $E1/2000+, you then turn shadowing off and
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change $01/2000+ again while that first image continues to be displayed
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then turn shadowing back on again to replace the first image with the
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second and so on.
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Instead of changing the memory locations that are being used as screen
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memory ($2000-$3FFF for HR page 1 and $4000-$5FFF for HR page 2) the
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hardware takes care of copying the data from your buffer to screen memory.
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Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
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--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
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sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
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COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
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(JBLAKENEY, 2579, GO COM A2PRO)
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>>>>> Jeff, just turning on the shadow register isn't enough. It won't
|
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""""" automatically update the slow RAM from the fast RAM; you have to
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copy the data from fast RAM onto the same locations in fast RAM in order to
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force the update.
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The only value of the shadow register is that it lets you preconstruct the
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screen image in the fast RAM before doing the copy to slow RAM.
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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{<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net}
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{<http://www.sheppyware.net> http://www.sheppyware.net}
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(SHEPPY, 2582, GO COM A2PRO)
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JUST WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH DRAWSTRING? DrawString (as its name implies)
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" draws a NULL (0) terminated string.
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You can convert integers into strings with the Integer Math toolset.
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Int2Dec/Int2Hex will convert an integer to a string. You'll need to NULL
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terminate it (either before or after)
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ph2 theNumber ; the number to convert
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ph4 #theString ; where to store it
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ph2 #5 ; length of the buffer ( 6 if signed)
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ph2 #0 ; or 1 if it is a signed integer
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_Int2Dec
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ph4 #theString
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_DrawString
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...
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theString dc c'xxxxx' ; 6 xs if signed
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dc i1'0' ; NULL terminated
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(KWS, 2573, GO COM A2PRO)
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>>>>> I believe you are thinking about DrawCString. DrawString uses
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""""" Pascal strings which have a length byte followed by the text of the
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string.
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Your example program would work if you change the DrawString macro to a
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DrawCString.
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If DrawString is going to be used, the string must be preceded by a length
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byte so your program would look like this:
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ph2 theNumber ; the number to convert
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ph4 #theString ; where to store it
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ph2 #5 ; length of the buffer ( 6 if signed)
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ph2 #0 ; or 1 if it is a signed integer
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_Int2Dec
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ph4 #theString
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_DrawString
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...
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theString dc i1'4' ; use a 6 if signed
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dc c'xxxxx' ; 6 xs if signed
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Of course, you could always leave in this line:
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dc i1'0' ; NULL terminated
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and then you would have you choice of using DrawString or DrawCString
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without having to modify the theString. :)
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Oh and the program above could be simplified if using a later version of
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Orca/M if you use the newer macro style:
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~Int2Dec theNumber,#theString,#5,#0 ; use #6,#0 if signed
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~DrawString #theString
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...
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theString dc i1'4' ; use 6 if signed
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dc c'xxxx' ; use 6 x's if signed
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Jeff Blakeney | Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro |
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--------------+----------------------------------------------------+
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sent via | HyperCard IIgs Course | GSoft BASIC Course |
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COG v3.0 | now in session | now in session |
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(JBLAKENEY, 2580, GO COM A2PRO)
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THE IIGS COMPILES SUPER NINTENDO? I didn't see the original post, but if
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" you are talking about using an Apple
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IIGS compiler to create SNES programs, yes, it works, as long as you have
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the source for the run-time libraries so you can make the appropriate
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environment adjustments. At least 3 teams have used ORCA/C for SNES
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development.
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Mike Westerfield
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(BYTEWORKS, 2576, GO COM A2PRO)
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CAN YOU MULTITASK IN APPLESOFT? The Apple II's not a multitasking machine
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""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" (although the IIgs sometimes fakes it
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pretty well). There's no known way to multi task in Applesoft.
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-
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Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
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Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
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Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
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(RSUENAGA, 2587, GO COM A2PRO)
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>>>>> Sure. Get more than one Apple II and set them up side by side. Run
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""""" your program on both machines. :)
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 2590, GO COM A2PRO)
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>>>>> While it can't be done in Applesoft Basic (ok, with some....a lot
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""""" of assembly it could be done) I'm sure it would be able to be done
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in GSoft Basic available from The Byteworks. Mike will be along any moment
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to give you all the detail you need to add this piece of software to your
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GS, or you could check out {<http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks>
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http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks}
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Chris
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(CVAVRUSKA, 2588, GO COM A2PRO)
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CONTEMPLATING A NEW FST As we discussed in conference, I strongly believe
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""""""""""""""""""""""" that an attempt to reverse-engineer the FST
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mechanism and produce new FSTs will fail.
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I've been involved in several attempts to do this in the past, with no
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success. The Apple II world has too few top-grade programmers left (I think
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there are five, maybe seven serious expert-level programmers left) to pull
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this off.
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I believe our efforts would best be spent organizing a letter-writing
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campaign to ask Apple to either release the sources to Syndicomm, or make
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the System 6.0.1 sources open source.
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I would participate in such an effort, and would gladly work on updating
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the system using those sources. I will not participate in an attempt to
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reverse-engineer the FST mechanism as I have enough frustration in my life
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already.
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---
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Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
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sheppy@sheppyware.net
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http://www.sheppyware.net
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(SHEPPY, 2600, GO COM A2PRO)
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>>>>> The reason why there is a limitation of 32 Mb is that only two
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""""" bytes are allocated for most entries in the directory lists. To
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change this, would mean a restructuring of the entries for all directory
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and file lists.
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This would make the drive structure dependent on a new FST. The drive would
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not be readable from an Apple //e or a Mac for instance.
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We already have an HFS FST that handles larger drives, though it is not as
|
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efficient as it might be.
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I think that if any new FST is to be written, it would make more sense to
|
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concentrate on building an HFS+ FST instead. That way you would still have
|
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a standard volume that could be interchanged with a Macintosh, but have all
|
|
the advantages of a modern disk structure with small block sizes.
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Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 30 Apr 1999 - 82 days till KFest '99
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Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.0
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Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
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(EWANNOP, 2601, GO COM A2PRO)
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|
>>>>> Personally, I think the ProDOS naming standard is more of a
|
|
""""" limitation than the 32MB partition size. I would much rather see
|
|
support for long filenames built into ProDOS. Of course HFS already
|
|
provides that, but there are no volume repair utilities that works with
|
|
HFS, not to mention the fact that HFS is noticeably slower than ProDOS.
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------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Fri Apr 30, 1999 8:26:26 pm
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[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.0]
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--
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"A hospital is no place to be sick." -- Samuel Goldwyn
|
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(TONYW1, 2602, GO COM A2PRO)
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[EOA]
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[KFE]------------------------------
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THINKING KFEST |
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-----------------------------------
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The KFest FAQ
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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|
by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
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|
[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
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The KFest FAQ
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|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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|
|
|
The following article is set up in a form commonly seen on the
|
|
Internet, called Frequently Asked Questions. It is designed to answer some
|
|
of the most common questions people have about KansasFest, the Apple II
|
|
event of the year. It is not designed to answer general questions about
|
|
the Apple II, although there may be some overlap.
|
|
|
|
Any questions about this article can be sent via email to
|
|
thelamp@delphi.com.
|
|
|
|
Q: What's a FAQ, and how is it pronounced?
|
|
|
|
A: The letters "FAQ" stand for _F_requently _A_sked _Q_uestions. When
|
|
people first hear of or learn of a subject, such as KansasFest, they
|
|
often have a number of questions which others before them did when they
|
|
also first learned of the same subject. A FAQ is a document listing
|
|
both the questions and answers most frequently associated with new
|
|
users, to save themselves (and others trying to assist them) time and
|
|
frustration.
|
|
|
|
And by the way, it's pronounced "fack", nearly identical to "fact".
|
|
|
|
Q: What is the purpose of this FAQ?
|
|
|
|
A: This FAQ is set up to assist people interested in KansasFest, also known
|
|
as KFest. Many Apple II enthusiasts are interested in attending or just
|
|
want some information about this event, so the most common questions are
|
|
answered here.
|
|
|
|
Q: How can this FAQ be distributed?
|
|
|
|
A: The content of this FAQ is copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, the editor
|
|
and publisher of _The Lamp!_. Distribution without the expressed
|
|
written consent of the copyright holder is prohibited.
|
|
|
|
Q: What is KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: KansasFest, abbreviated "KFest", is a computing conference held every
|
|
summer at Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. Its original formal
|
|
name was "The Apple II Summer Conference" while its nickname was
|
|
"KansasFest", which was abbreviated to "KFest".
|
|
|
|
Q: When was the first KFest held?
|
|
|
|
A: The first KansasFest was held in 1989. It was originally sponsored by
|
|
Resource-Central, the folks who brought you the wonderful _Open-Apple_
|
|
and _A2-Central_ (among several other Apple II) publications. After
|
|
Resource-Central became ICON, The Apple II Summer Conference became
|
|
ICONference. This lasted one summer until ICON shut down. Two
|
|
different companies sponsored KFest before Intrec Software, publishers
|
|
of _ProTERM_, took over a few years back. This July will welcome the
|
|
11th KFest.
|
|
|
|
Q: When is KFest this year?
|
|
|
|
A: KansasFest 1999 is July 21-25, 1999. For the first time, KFesters are
|
|
being offered an extra night, July 20, at the Avila dorms if they want
|
|
to come into town a day early.
|
|
|
|
Q: Where is KFest held?
|
|
|
|
A: KFest is held at Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. The address
|
|
and phone number are:
|
|
|
|
Avila College
|
|
11901 Wornall Road
|
|
Kansas City, Missouri 64145
|
|
United States of America
|
|
(816) 942-8400
|
|
|
|
Q: If it's held in Missouri, why is it called KansasFest?
|
|
|
|
A: I dunno. If it makes you feel better, the Kansas border is very close
|
|
to Avila College.
|
|
|
|
Q: Who comes to KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: While KFest was originally devoted to programmers, nowadays all kinds of
|
|
folk from all over the world show up at Avila College. Programmers,
|
|
users, newsletter publishers, and everyday folk show up from Europe,
|
|
Canada, Australia, and all over the United States to celebrate the Apple
|
|
II.
|
|
|
|
Q: Who organizes KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: Currently, KFest is organized by a committee headed by The Big Cheese,
|
|
Cindy Adams. The scheduling is done by Steve "Godzilla" Gozdziewski.
|
|
There are several other folks on the committee as well: Jerry Cline, Max
|
|
Jones, and Stan Marks all pitch in. In addition to those good folk on
|
|
the committee, David Kerwood handles the maintenance of the World Wide
|
|
Web site, Devin Reade maintains the email lists, and Eric "Sheppy"
|
|
Shepherd provides World Wide Web hosting services and organizes
|
|
HackFest, the programming contest. KFest is sponsored by Intrec
|
|
Software.
|
|
|
|
Q: How do I register for KFest? How much does it cost?
|
|
|
|
A: Depending on when you register, registration prices vary. Please check
|
|
the KFest Home Page at http://www.kfest.org/ for the most current
|
|
information.
|
|
|
|
Q: What kind of official activities go on at KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: Officially, there is a keynote speech (this year given by Max Jones of
|
|
_Juiced.GS_), sessions on various computing topics, HackFest, a
|
|
celebrity roast (_Spectrum_ author Ewen Wannop being the victim of honor
|
|
this year), product demonstrations, and a vendor fair.
|
|
|
|
Q: What kind of unofficial activities go on at KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: Unofficially, there's been movie outings, pizza nights, Bite The Bag
|
|
contests, late night eating at Denny's, and huge groups of folks going
|
|
to steak dinners at K.C. Masterpiece and Jess and Jim's restaurants.
|
|
|
|
Q: Has anyone attended every KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: Two people have attended every KFest so far: Tony Diaz of Alltech
|
|
Electronics and Mike Westerfield of Byte Works.
|
|
|
|
Q: I hear that the Avila College dorm is wired for ethernet. Is there a
|
|
way I can access that while I'm there?
|
|
|
|
A: Yes. You can get the information in the following article:
|
|
|
|
While Apple Computer, Inc. never produced an Apple II that was truly
|
|
portable nor an ethernet solution for the masses (emulated IIs and
|
|
prototypes notwithstanding), ethernet has become a popular networking
|
|
solution for the computing world at large--so popular, in fact, that
|
|
ethernet has even invaded that Apple II mecca known as Avila College.
|
|
|
|
In each dorm room in the halls of Avila are two outlets that seem to
|
|
be phone jacks. These _aren't_ phone jacks. They're ethernet ports--to be
|
|
exact, they're RJ-45 connectors that are compatible with 10 Base-T
|
|
ethernet. The entire Avila dorm is connected to the Internet this way,
|
|
making for high speed World Wide Web browsing, electronic mail, and ftp
|
|
connections for KansasFesters during their stay!
|
|
|
|
While those bringing their true blue Apple IIs will be needing to go
|
|
the tried and true modem route, those KFesters who bring ethernet-capable
|
|
computers can make full use of these high speed connections. Let's look at
|
|
what hardware and software is needed to get this high speed resource
|
|
working with your non-Apple II.
|
|
|
|
THE HARDWARE All Avila provides is the RJ-45 jack. This looks like an
|
|
"""""""""""" overgrown RJ-11 jack (the kind your telephone plugs into),
|
|
and in fact, it's a close relative. What you need to bring is a computer
|
|
with an appropriate 10 Base-T ethernet interface and a cable that ends in a
|
|
male RJ-45 jack. There are many, many of these cables on the market. If
|
|
you are going to purchase one, be sure it's a straight-through class 5
|
|
cable, not a crossover cable. Additionally, due to the way the RJ-45 jack
|
|
is mounted, you will need a cable ending with a RJ-45 male jack that is not
|
|
molded with a surrounding sheath, as the cable will not fit properly. You
|
|
want a cable end that looks like this:
|
|
|
|
ASCII ART BEGINS
|
|
|
|
___________
|
|
| | | |
|
|
| | | | <--- Male RJ-45
|
|
| | | |
|
|
| |___| <-|------ Locking tab
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
|___________|
|
|
| |
|
|
| | <------ Cable
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
as opposed to this:
|
|
|
|
___________
|
|
| | | |
|
|
| | | | <--- Male RJ-45
|
|
| | | |
|
|
| |___| <-|------ Locking tab
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
_|___________|_
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
| | <-- Large, molded sheath
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
|_______________|
|
|
| |
|
|
| | <------ Cable
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
ASCII ART ENDS
|
|
|
|
I had problems with this at KFest 1998. If you need to get different
|
|
cables (or need other hardware in general) you can ask your fellow
|
|
attendees if they have extras, or you can run over to the CompUSA in the
|
|
area to get what you need.
|
|
|
|
Once you have this equipment, simply plug in your RJ-45 cable into the
|
|
provided jack. You do not need an ethernet hub unless you'll be running
|
|
more than two devices in your room.
|
|
|
|
THE SOFTWARE The Avila ethernet server uses a protocol called Dynamic
|
|
"""""""""""" Host Configuration Protocol, or DHCP, for short. Those of
|
|
you who have set up TCP/IP connections with Windows or Macintosh computers
|
|
(or, for that matter, the Apple IIgs) probably have some familiarity with
|
|
inserting IP addresses, DNS addresses, and Gateway addresses. The beauty
|
|
of DHCP is that it sets up nearly everything you need dynamically, meaning
|
|
that the server assigns these addresses--all you need to do is set up
|
|
TCP/IP on your computer and choose the DHCP protocol. I am much more
|
|
famillar with the setup of DHCP for Macintosh computers than for Windows
|
|
machines, and am taking the instructions from a reference.
|
|
|
|
MAC To set up a Macintosh running Open Transport networking for DHCP, all
|
|
''' that needs to be done is to switch the TCP/IP protocol to DHCP
|
|
Server. So:
|
|
|
|
(1) Get into your TCP/IP Control Panel;
|
|
|
|
(2) Select "Ethernet" (or "Built-in Ethernet" or "Alternate Ethernet" as
|
|
appropriate) in the "Connect via:" field;
|
|
|
|
(3) Select "DHCP Server" in the "Configure" field;
|
|
|
|
(4) Quit and save the changes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
WINDOWS 95 To set up a Windows 95 machine for DHCP, there are several
|
|
'''''''''' additional steps:
|
|
|
|
(1) Get into your Network Control panel;
|
|
|
|
(2) Add or select the appropriate ethernet interface;
|
|
|
|
(3) Set the "Obtain an IP address automatically" control in the "IP
|
|
Address" tab of the TCP/IP Properties window;
|
|
|
|
(4) Remove any existing setting for a Gateway address in the "Gateway" tab
|
|
of the TCP/IP Properties window;
|
|
|
|
(5) Disable DNS in the "DNS Configuration" tab of the TCP/IP Properties
|
|
window;
|
|
|
|
(6) Save the settings and reboot the computer.
|
|
|
|
Regardless of which platform you use, if you have software set up to
|
|
share your hard drive with other computers, you probably ought to disable
|
|
it--unless you like everyone in the Avila ethernet having access to your
|
|
files.
|
|
|
|
At this point, you ought to be connected. If you previously had any
|
|
proxy servers set up for use with your setup before Avila, disable them.
|
|
You ought to have easy access for checking mail, browsing the Web, or using
|
|
file transfer protocol--and very high speeds. One last caveat:
|
|
|
|
THE SMTP SERVER As Spam on the Internet proliferates, it has become
|
|
""""""""""""""" accepted practice to close off an Internet Service
|
|
Provider's mail sending server--usually using Simple Mail Transfer
|
|
Protocol, or smtp--to access from anyone who is not directly connected to
|
|
the ISP. In other words, no one wants to be a relaying point for Spam.
|
|
|
|
Because of this, it's likely you will not be able to use the same smtp
|
|
server you use at home to send mail while at Avila. We encountered this
|
|
problem briefly last year and solved it by using the smtp.delphi.com smtp
|
|
server--however, in the last year, Delphi also closed its server to access.
|
|
|
|
It is hoped that there is a smtp.avila.edu or similar server that can
|
|
be used while at Avila, but this has not been researched yet. See me while
|
|
you're at KFest for the latest developments.
|
|
|
|
So, for those of you bringing ethernet-capable computers to
|
|
KansasFest, you now have some idea on how to hook them up for high-speed
|
|
Internet access. On to the yellow brick road.
|
|
|
|
On to KansasFest.
|
|
|
|
Q: How can I learn more about KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: You can get more information on KansasFest by visiting the KansasFest
|
|
World Wide Web site at http://www.kfest.org/ or sending email to
|
|
kfest-help@kfest.org. You could also subscribe to the KFest mailing
|
|
list by sending email to majordomo@kfest.org. In the body of the email
|
|
include the text:
|
|
|
|
subscribe kfest
|
|
|
|
You will receive a confirmation email with instructions on finalizing
|
|
your subscription.
|
|
|
|
Q: Should I go to KFest?
|
|
|
|
A: Need you ask? KFest is a must for the serious Apple II fanatic. Do
|
|
yourself a favor--you're worth it. Show up at KFest '99!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
:: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
|
|
: :
|
|
: For real sponge cake, borrow all ingredients :
|
|
: :
|
|
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH ::::::
|
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|
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[EOA]
|
|
[INN]------------------------------
|
|
EXTRA INNINGS |
|
|
-----------------------------------
|
|
About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in
|
|
""""""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online
|
|
service (GO CUS 11).
|
|
|
|
This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
|
|
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever!
|
|
|
|
* The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All
|
|
rights reserved.
|
|
|
|
* To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
|
|
thelamp@sheppyware.net
|
|
|
|
* Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on
|
|
Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page,
|
|
http://lamp.sheppyware.net.
|
|
|
|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
|
Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not
|
|
necessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services,
|
|
Syndicomm, Inc., or Ryan M. Suenaga. Forum messages are reprinted
|
|
verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from the
|
|
individual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc. and Ryan M.
|
|
Suenaga do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information
|
|
included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy.
|
|
|
|
Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the
|
|
expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user
|
|
groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may
|
|
write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.
|
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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[EOF]
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