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APPLE II DEVELOPMENT FORUM CONFERENCE LOG
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June 27, 1989 10:00 p.m. eastern time
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Topic: BASIC Programming (and other stuff)
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Forum Leader: Dave Sugar (AFL Dyfet)
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JSchober Dave... got a question for ya'. Are the AuxTypes of DIR files
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reserved?? (I
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JSchober assume so)
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Dave Lyons Yup, I think DIR auxtypes are reserved. The Finder *pretends*
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that certain
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Dave Lyons kinds of DIRs have certain auxtypes, so the auxtype of a DIR
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*icon* has some
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Dave Lyons significance (drop box, folder you own, etc.). I'm talking Finder
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on 5.0,
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Dave Lyons with AppleShare folders.
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JSchober Hmmm. But if I'm not worrying about AppleShare... well, either
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way, Matt will
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JSchober probably kill me. I just won't tell him. :)
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AFL Vince Just got my first taste of Appleshare and 5.0 today, Dave.. Tim
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and gang did some NICE work!
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Dave Lyons What did you do? I really think they *are* reserved.
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AFL Marty (death to AppleShare)
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AFL Dennis Hi Jim
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Dave Lyons You probably *won't* be able to set an AppleShare DIR's auxtype,
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although
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Dave Lyons I haven't tried it. Doesn't your app work with AppleShare?
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JSchober Well, I want to keep a reference constant for a folder somewhere,
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without ...
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AFA Gary J I guess we can get started here.....
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JSchober creating a new file. Any suggestions?
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JSchober Uhhh... what?
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AFA Gary J Welcome to the Apple II Development Forum. Tonight's topic is
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BASIC programming.
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AFL TimB Joe, if you're talking about anything other than Rolodex....shame
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on you! ;)
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AFA Gary J I'm Gary Jacobson, and I'll act like I'm the forum leader until
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AFL Dyfet
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AFL Vince which Basic, GS Basics, or Appleslosh?
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AFA Gary J comes in :)
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AFP Draco Gary - does that mean you'll tell bad jokes?
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AFA Gary J We'll be using forum protocol this evening, so **STARTING
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NOW**....if you
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JeffDavies Can I ask a question off the subject?
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AFA Gary J have a question, type a "?" on a line by itself, or if you have a
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comment
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AFA Gary J on the current topic, type a "!".
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AFA Gary J I'll call on you when it's your turn, and we'll take everyone in
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turn.
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JSchober Hi Dave... :)
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AFA Gary J (Ahhh...here's Dave now :)
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AFL Dyfet I guess I scared Vince off ??
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AFL TimB Uhoh, here's trouble!
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AFA Gary J :)
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AFP Draco no more COM jokes gang
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AFA Gary J We've just started, and I've instituted PROTOCOL...
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AFP Draco Oh... HI Dave!
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AFL Dyfet Okay, did Joe get his question in?
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AFA Gary J Go ahead, Joe with your question..
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AFL TimB (If their Kent's jokes, not much)
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JSchober Well, I just want to finish up the question I started before Gary
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did the intro
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JSchober I've got an Applesoft program with which I would like to store a
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RefCon for
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JSchober a directory. What's the best way to do this, without creating a
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new file?
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JSchober GA
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AFL Dyfet GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons What do you want to keep track of? I don't see what to do offhand
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other
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Dave Lyons than creating a new file, which you don't want to do, or imbedding
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the
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Dave Lyons information in the directory's name. Or keeping a big separate
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file somewhere
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Dave Lyons that has all the dirs' info in one place. ga
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JSchober Well, I just need a number that indicates what the last data in
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the dir was.
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JSchober The dir's name can't change. :( That's why I'd =like= to stuff
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the number in
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Dave Lyons That "last data in the dir"?
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JSchober the AuxType... but that seems to be anti-Matt behaviour...
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Dave Lyons Think of it this way...if *two* programs did the same thing you
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want yours
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JSchober A number that's an index to the most recent file put in the dir...
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(we're
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Dave Lyons to, it wouldn't work, right? Ick.
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JSchober talking BBS development here)
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JSchober Well... yeah. Any other little spaces that aren't used,
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anywhere?
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GSGM ! Joe
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AFL Dyfet GA GSGM.
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GSGM Couldn't you have the program read the directory and check the
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modified...
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Dave Lyons _Any_ little spaces that "aren't used" present the same problem as
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the auxtype:
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GSGM date field. GA
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AFL Dyfet From what I'm following, you want to add extra tracking
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information into the
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Dave Lyons why should *your* program be the one that gets to use them?
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AFL Dyfet directory itself. I think you would be better off with a seperate
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file to
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AFL Dyfet handle this instead of using the dir file itself. I think Matt
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will also
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JSchober I know, I know... but there =should= be a refCon space in the dir
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field. :sulk:
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AFL Dyfet apperciate this :).
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JSchober Yeah, I'm sure he would, Dave :), but I'm trying to push as much
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speed as ...
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AFL Dyfet GA Dennis.
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JSchober possible. Ok, so it can't be done... thanks, tho! :)
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Dave Lyons There *is* a refcon in a directory...it's called "the data stored
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in a file
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AFL Dennis Couldn't you place the time/date of the files in the Aux type,
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then with a quick search find
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Dave Lyons with a really weird name." :-)
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AFL Dennis the most recently modified one within the directory? Fairly quick
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when it comes to
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AFL Dennis dir scanning.
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JSchober :) Well, yeah, that WOULD work, Dennis, but probably would be as
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fast as
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JSchober keeping it in a file. Get_File_Info is much quicker than
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Open...
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Dave Lyons Idea! If you want to use Get_File_Info
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Dave Lyons instead of Open, just create a file of your own inside that dir
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(probably a
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Dave Lyons BIN file?), and use the *file*'s auxtype. Should be fast &
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legitimiate.
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JSchober Aha aha! <ding!> That's it!! Thanks Dave! I knew I could count
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on you... :)
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Dave Lyons :)
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AFL Dyfet Yes, that would be legitimate :). Okay, I believe our next
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question is from
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AFL Dennis How bout using the reserved space in the Directory header, offset
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+$14?
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AFL Dyfet GS 816. You now have the floor.
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GS 816 thank you.
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GS 816 My question may be known by some of the old timers who remember
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things like
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GS 816 call-apple in depth "All about Applesoft" and C. Bongers. It
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seems that I
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GS 816 have found a way to duplicate the infamous RETURN WITHOUT GOSUB
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problem that
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GS 816 is described in the afore mentioned book. I'll be honest, the
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explaination
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GS 816 of the problem is slightly over my head as it talks of tape and
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ROM CARD
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GS 816 corrections, but not if the AppleSoft is in Motherboard ROM. Does
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anyone
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GS 816 know of a way to correct the problem by going around to the back
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door? That
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GS 816 is via changing programming code. It seems that there is a
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conflict when
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GS 816 arrays are searched and a gosub is on a page boundry, but even
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adding extra
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GS 816 code has not helped the situation and I still recieve the infamous
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error msg
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GS 816 when a legitimate gosub has been called. ga
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AFL Dyfet I do vaguely recall the bug you are refering to, though I suspect
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the problem
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AFL Dyfet is in a routine far too deeply rooted to be effected with a patch
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other than
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AFL Dyfet with a eprom burner :). Any other comments?
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GS 816 if anyone has the book handy, it is explained on pages 100 and
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101
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GS 816 not everyone at once, please
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AFL Dyfet There are actually a couple of minor bugs in Applesoft, such as
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with resume,
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AFL Dyfet . I think your best bet for some of these problems is to create
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an ampersand
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AFL Dyfet routine that operates 'correctly'.
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AFL Dyfet Any further comments?
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GS 816 If anyone has any ideas, please feel free to email them to me.
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AFL Dyfet Okay, I believe the next question is from Jeff. GA Jeff.
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JeffDavies This is off the subject, but does anybody use orca/c or orca/m in
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the desktop
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JeffDavies and have trouble with the macgen and compiling programs? I can't
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really get
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JeffDavies either to work and need help.
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AFL Dyfet How much ram do you have in your system?
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JeffDavies right now 1.25 I know I will need more, but I don't know if that
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is it.
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AFA Gary J Are you using an SCSI hard drive?
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JeffDavies yes the 20SC
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AFA Gary J What exactly doesn't work, does it crash?
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JeffDavies yes, and when I do a ctrl-apple-T the program crashes in bank
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@00/0000
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AFA Gary J I've had exactly the same problem. I've talked to Mike
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Westerfield in e-mail
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AFA Gary J about it here on-line, but he's never been able to duplicate
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it.
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AFL Dyfet GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons Do you have any CDAs, NDAs, or other utilities installed in your
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system? If
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Dave Lyons so, see if the problem still occurs without them. If it doesn't,
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that *might*
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Dave Lyons mean one of your DAs has problems, or it might mean that the ORCA
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environment
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Dave Lyons (or even part of the OS...I don't want to single out ORCA as the
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only
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Dave Lyons possibility) has a problem that happens only in "unlucky"
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circumstances.
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JeffDavies Good idea I never thing of the most obvious stuff! The orca env.
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won't let you
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JeffDavies open a file or new window with a da active.
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Dave Lyons Not even with an ORCA window in front?
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AFA Gary J Let me know if you find the problem, Jeff.
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JeffDavies well if an orca window is in front it's ok.
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JeffDavies Vince are you the vince going to work for TML? And thanks for the
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ideas guys!
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AFL TimB Vince who?
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AFL Dyfet Okay, I see Joe is back in the queue and is next. I would like to
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give the
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AFL Dyfet floor to Joe now, except that I'm not sure I will get it back :).
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GA Joe.
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AFA Gary J :)
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JSchober (thrrrpt!)
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JSchober This is (hopefully!) a simple one -- do the Basic.System OPEN and
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CLOSE ...
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JSchober commands respect the LEVEL byte in the ProDOS global page?? that
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is, if I
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JSchober set a level, open a file, LOWER the lever (or is it raise it? I
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always get
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JSchober confused...), then do a ? CHR$(4)"CLOSE", will the opened file
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stay open?
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AFL Dyfet GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons I don't think it's documented or guaranteed. If you only want to
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close
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Dave Lyons specific files, then do it explicitly: ?CHR$(4);"CLOSE FILE.A",
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etc. The
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Dave Lyons LEVEL mechanism is there for SYS programs to use, and BASIC.SYSTEM
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*could*
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Dave Lyons pass that right on to the Applesoft programmer by documented a way
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to use it,
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Dave Lyons but as far as I know that has not been done.
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Dave Lyons (ga)
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AFL Dyfet Basic.System may also decide the file buffer has been closed even
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if ProDOS
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AFL Dyfet does not. Basic.System does use the level function to hold the
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exec file open
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AFL Dyfet however, so at some level it does operate.
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JSchober Ok, well, I never know what files are going to be open, so I can't
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explicitly
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JSchober close 'em. Hmmmmm... really, Dave? Interesting. I'll have to
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look at that
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Dave Lyons Why don't you know?? Who opened them?
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JSchober one. Ok, that's it... thanks. (SEE?? Didn't take 15 mins...
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;)
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AFL Marty (zzzzzzzzzzz :))
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JSchober Oh, I did, but any number could be open with variable names, and I
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don't
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JSchober currently keep a table once they're open. (it's a long story...
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:)
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Dave Lyons If you don't know which files are open, how is the part of the
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program that
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Dave Lyons DID open them supposed to know that they are no longer available
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for reading
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Dave Lyons and writing?
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JSchober I use MLI calls to file ID numbers. (Don't bother telling me that
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sequential
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Dave Lyons (This could *still* take 15 minutes...or I could just shut up.
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:-)
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JSchober assignments aren't guaranteed... I know... ;)
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JSchober LOL
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Dave Lyons Done, I guess.
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AFL Dyfet Again, the thing to watch is not if ProDOS keeps the file open,
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but if Basic.
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AFL Dyfet System decides to free the buffer anyway :). Any further
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comments?
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JSchober Acccck. :(
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AFL Dyfet Okay, I believe the next question is from Tim, who is a little off
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(the
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AFL Dyfet subject). GA Tim.
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AFL TimB My question is a multi-parter! :) (Dave has already heard pieces
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of it)
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JSchober (hmph, now HE'LL take 15 mins... ;)
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AFL Marty (he's a _lot_ off :)
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AFL TimB With TML Pascal is it necessary to start up and initialize
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texttools for a CDA?
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Dave Lyons !
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AFL TimB Explicitly.
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AFL Dyfet GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons Yup.
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AFL TimB Next question...
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Dave Lyons You should make several calls, something like this:
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AFA Gary J 15 seconds... :)
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JeffDavies !
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Dave Lyons TextStartUp, then SetOutputDevice, SetInputDevice, SetOutGlobals,
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and
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Dave Lyons SetInGlobals. You'll probably want to set the output and input
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devices to
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Dave Lyons be slot 3 and be either BASIC or Pascal devices. For
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SetOutGlobals, you need
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Dave Lyons an AndMask and an OrMask. The And mask can be $00FF (don't strip
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off any of
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Dave Lyons the lower 8 bits) and the OrMask can be $0080 (turn on bit 7).
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For
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Dave Lyons SetInGlobals I think you'll want AndMask $007f (strip off bit 7)
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and OrMask
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Dave Lyons $0000 (don't force any bits on).
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AFL Dyfet I knew it wasn't in Dave to give out a short answer :). GA
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Jeff.
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AFL TimB Can I follow up?
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Dave Lyons After setting everything up, call InitTextDev(0) and
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InitTextDev(1) to init
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Dave Lyons the input device and output device. (ga)
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JeffDavies I don't know much about the text tools but wouldn't you want to
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do a
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JeffDavies check to see if the text tools are already active and then do a
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start up
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JeffDavies only if they aren't active?
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Dave Lyons Hmmm...good question. Actually I think it's an academic
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Dave Lyons question, since TextStartUp doesn't do a whole lot at the moment
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anyway.
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Dave Lyons One solution is to *avoid* the text tools. Use the console driver
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under
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Dave Lyons GS/OS. Under P8 you need to use text tools or go directly to the
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screen.
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AFL Dyfet I think it's always a good idea to go through the motions of tool
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startup
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Dave Lyons Also, it is a good idea to
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AFL TimB Does TML Pascal have interfaces to GS/OS drivers?
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Dave Lyons preserve the state of the text tools around your use of them:
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that means
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JSchober ! (brief question on the topic)
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Dave Lyons using GetOutputDevice, GetInputDevice, GetInGlobals, GetOutGlobals
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at the
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Dave Lyons beginning and using SetXxx at the end to put everything back.
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ga.
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AFL TimB ^^^^^^^^^
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AFL Dyfet Um, before we get back to Tim's 'short' question, let's give Joe a
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chance to
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AFL Dyfet sneak in his 'brief' question. GA Joe.
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JSchober When doing output to the .console driver under GS/OS, does it
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properly handle
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JSchober Pascal emulation codes (Ctrl-O and N for inverse on/off, etc)?
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JSchober GA
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AFL Dyfet I believe they've added a few as well as supporting the older
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codes. Is this
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AFL Dyfet correct, Dave?
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JSchober (did Dave pass out?)
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Dave Lyons Okay, MOST of the stuff
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Dave Lyons that the console driver does happens to match the "Pascal" way...I
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don't have
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Dave Lyons the manual open in front of me at the moment. There is a lot MORE
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stuff that
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Dave Lyons the console driver can do that the Pascal codes can't. ga
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AFL Dyfet That was my understanding also. Okay, I guess Tim can have the
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floor back
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JSchober Hmmm. But so I'd have to write a conversion procedure to go
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Pascal ==> console
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AFL Dyfet now. GA Tim.
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JSchober Yecch. Thanks...
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JSchober ::giving floor to Tim... gee, it's heavy...::
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AFL TimB Does TML have interfaces to GS/OS drivers?
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Dave Lyons Oh, other than sending characters to the device, there are also
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DControl
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Dave Lyons calls that do keen stuff. I *think* they are DControl, at least.
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Could be
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Dave Lyons FST-specific calls, conceivably. ga
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AFL Dyfet We lost Tim in there :)
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AFL TimB ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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AFL TimB (You can try to shake me off, but I'm persistent! :) )
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AFL Dyfet Okay, GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons Sorry...didn't see your question, Tim. I don't think TML Pascal
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1.50A
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Dave Lyons has GS/OS routines declared, but using the "ProDOS" directive you
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can declare
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Dave Lyons them yourself...for example, Procedure GSOSGetDirEntry(...);
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ProDOS $201C;
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Dave Lyons declares the routine so you can call it yourself. Is this what
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you meant?
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AFL TimB I'm a real beginner, a little advanced for me I think. I'll wait
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for Pascal II
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AFL TimB to use the console.driver, :)
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AFL TimB I'll go with setin and outglobals.
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AFL TimB GA
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Dave Lyons You definitely need the GS/OS reference. It's easy to model your
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own
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AFL TimB (done, at last)
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Dave Lyons declarations after the ones provided, if you have the
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documentation.
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AFL Dyfet Okay, I believe we are running on empty here. Any more questions
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for tonight?
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JeffDavies I have two quick questions ...and one normal one
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AFL Dyfet Oh, I missed you Jeff. GA Jeff.
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AFL TimB Thanks muchly (off to try out solution) :)
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JeffDavies 1) wheredid the II tech notes go? and what does AFL stand 4?
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AFA Gary J II Tech Notes??
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JeffDavies yes
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AFL Dyfet Let's try the second first. AFL=Apple Forum Leader, that means
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the poor
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AFA Gary J You mean in our libraries?
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AFL Dyfet volunteer who's job it is to keep a given forum in line and
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running.
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AFA Gary J :)
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JeffDavies Well I'v been looking for the tech notes that use to be around
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here, but
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AFL Marty (Poor, honest, hardworking slave :)
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JeffDavies now can't find.
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AFL Dyfet AFA's are Forum Assistants, and they get all the dirty jobs :)
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AFA Gary J :) Yup.... heheh
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AFL Marty (AFAs play games in the entertainment area all night)
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JSchober <and AFC's answer the questions the AFL's don't know, while the FL
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takes
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JSchober credit>
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AFL Marty :)
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Doctor Why :)
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AFA Gary J Jeff, as for the tech notes, look in the Apple Computer Releases
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section
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AFA Gary J of our software library.
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AFA Gary J <ahem... not THIS AFA!! :) >
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AFL Marty (AFC's ride the coattails of the famous but hardworking AFLs :)
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JeffDavies ok , now for the tough one unless someone else has oa question.
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JSchober :)
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AFL Dyfet GA Jeff.
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JeffDavies To save a file, in assembly, how do you do it?
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JeffDavies right now I am doing the dialog box for the name
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AFL Dyfet GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons You've *got* the name, and you want to know how to actually
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create
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JeffDavies then checking to see if i is present if not... I don't remember it
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confussed me
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Dave Lyons a file and write stuff to it?
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Dave Lyons Also, are you talking ProDOS 8 or GS/OS?
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JeffDavies GS/OS
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Dave Lyons Ah. Do you have documentation for the GS/OS calls CREATE, OPEN,
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WRITE, and
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AFL TimB :(
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Dave Lyons CLOSE? Those are the ones you need.
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JeffDavies I think I create then write and then at the set eof and close or
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that might be
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JeffDavies redundant at the end.
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Dave Lyons You don't need to SET_EOF unless you didn't write the amount of
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data you
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Dave Lyons really wanted to.
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AFL Dyfet I hope you open somewhere in there :)
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Dave Lyons You do need to Open, Write, and Close. You need to Create first
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if the thing
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Dave Lyons doesn't already exist.
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JeffDavies I don't remember exactly I was trying to save stuff I recorded in
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Mench's
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Dave Lyons I don't know what else to tell you until you ask a more detailed
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questin.
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JeffDavies MIDIScope
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Dave Lyons or ...ion.
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Dave Lyons Be sure to check for errors after all the calls so you know if
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they are
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Dave Lyons really working. Even after Close, check at least during
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development so that
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Dave Lyons you'll find out if you aren't storing a file's reference number
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into the
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Dave Lyons parameter list correctly.
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AFA Gary J (questin...that must be mid-western talk for question, right?
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:)
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JeffDavies Well I will check and apply what was said thanks
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Dave Lyons (For "questing," actually. :-)
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Dave Lyons ok. done
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Jump Long Hi everyone :)
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AFL Dyfet Welcome aboard Jim. Okay, was there anything further, Jeff?
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AFA Gary J Hi Jim!
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Jump Long Aye Aye, Captin' Dave
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JeffDavies nope thanks alot :)
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AFL Dyfet Uh oh, I think this means we return to Tim :). GA Tim.
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AFL TimB I'm still having problems with my CDA. I set up my in and
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outglobals (and ...
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AFL TimB devices) I enter a filename andthe program does a GetFileInfo with
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no trouble,
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AFL TimB I display the resulting values (no trouble) I ask for
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replacements, it accepts
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AFL TimB the first writeln and readln and dies on the second one. But I
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don't have...
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Dave Lyons Dies HOW?
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AFL TimB this problem when I'm calling from ProSEL16
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AFL TimB System just hangs.
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AFL TimB This is driving me insane (it's not a long drive) :)
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Dave Lyons Will I be able to duplicate this problem with the code you sent me
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in the
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Dave Lyons P.O., Tim?
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AFL Marty gmta Tim
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AFL TimB I'm using (Input,Output) and a Page statement, could these be
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causing it?
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AFL TimB No, DAve, I have advanced a little since last Wednesday! ;) (Not
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much tho)
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IIGS MAN Whats up?
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Dave Lyons Gee, was that last Wednesday? :-) Haven't been logging on
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regularly. :-(
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IIGS MAN So how is System Disk 5.0 going? When is it going to be out?
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AFL Dyfet IIGS MAN, we are in protocol, which means you will have to wait
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your turn.
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AFL TimB Just sent the newest version to you DAve. :)
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AFL Dyfet Tim, and Dave currently have the floor.
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Dave Lyons Well...Tim, send me the new source & I'll take a look at it
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tonight.
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AFL TimB I'm using the CDA as a learning experience. :) Sure is
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helping!!!! :)))))
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AFL TimB (done)
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AFL TimB Thanks DAve
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AFL Dyfet GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons "This summer" is when 5.0 is going to be available. It's good.
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ga
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AFL Dyfet Your question has been queued, IIGS Man, and you will be next,
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when Tim and
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AFL Dyfet Dave are done.
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AFL Dyfet GA Tim.
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AFL TimB I hear that TML is shipping TML Pascal II with GS/OS on july 1st.
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That's what
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AFL TimB they told me!
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AFL TimB GS/OS 5.0 that is.
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AFL Dyfet Continue Dave.
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Dave Lyons GS/OS is version 3.0 on System Software 5.0. (So there.)
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AFL Dyfet Okay, is there any further comments on Tim's ORIGINAL question?
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AFL TimB Dave :P
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AFL Dyfet Okay, I believe the next question is from IIgs Man. GA.
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AFL Dyfet I think we lost IIgs Man....???
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Dave Lyons (Did we already answer his question? I jumped the gun...sorry.)
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AFL Dyfet Okay, I guess we will move along to Joe then. You have the floor,
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Joe.
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IIGS MAN When is GSOS 3.0(system disk 5.0) going to be out?
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AFL TimB (Leave it clean Joey)
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IIGS MAN (a date)
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JSchober Dave: I thought it was GS/OS 2.0, no? Dave (or anyone): Have the
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annoying
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JSchober incompatibilities with the new SCSI.DRIVER been fixed yet?
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GA...
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AFA Gary J Between June 22 and Sept 22 (summer).
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AFL TimB Smaller than a breadbasket!
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AFL Dyfet GA Dave.
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Dave Lyons (No specific date has been announced, GS MAN.) Joe, GS/OS is v2.0
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on System
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JSchober you can kinda count out june 22-june 27... :)
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AFL TimB HEHE
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Dave Lyons Software 4.0; on 5.0 is't v3.0. There is no file called
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Dave Lyons SCSI.DRIVER on 5.0; instead there is a SCSI.MANAGER and
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SCSIHD.DRIVER (I hope
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Dave Lyons I got that right). The code is new & does not suffer from the
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problem that
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AFA Gary J (Right, Joe. That narrows it down a bunch :)
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JSchober <SCSI.DRIVER, SCSIHD.DRIVER... picky picky.>
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Dave Lyons Glen Bredon released a patch for; I believe it works well with
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3rd-party
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Dave Lyons hard drives, too. The SCSI.DRIVER on 4.0 was always intended to
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be a
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Dave Lyons er...an "interim" driver while the FAST one was written. ga
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AFL TimB I gotta go. Thanks a lot guys for the help! :)
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JSchober Any problems with the CMS SCSI card?? (gulp)
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JSchober Night Tim!
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AFL Dyfet Gnight Tim.
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Dave Lyons The SCSIHD.DRIVER works with the Apple SCSI card; it ignores the
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CMD card.
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Dave Lyons CMS. Sorry. As far as I know, the "generated" driver works fine
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(although
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Dave Lyons probably not terribly fast) with the CMS card. Does anybody know
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if a loaded
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JSchober Oh. I'd heard of problems that caused the CMS SCSI card to, like,
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explode, or
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Dave Lyons driver is available for that card?
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JSchober something along those lines. No details, tho. (No specific CMS
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driver yet...)
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Jump Long explode??? hahaha
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AFL Dyfet "Nice operating system's don't explode"
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JSchober heh
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AFL Dyfet Okay, I believe IIgs Man has a question he wishes to get out. GA
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IIgs Man.
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IIGS MAN I once saw a program that allowed you to download mac files. Where
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is it?
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AFL Dyfet If you mean the utility that converted Mac Sit files, I believe
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that might have
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AFL Dyfet been in Scott's Forum.
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IIGS MAN Not graphics,it lets you download mac files of all kinds!
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AFL Dyfet I would suggest looking into the utilities forum then. The one
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I'm thinking of
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AFL Dyfet was targeted at Mac Pic files specifically.
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